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title two dollars and there's a way they can be kwuzed in smart ways and they can be used in smart ways to support collaborative time and career ladders and identifying and resources potentially. two we have to insist that state legislatures see teacher preparation and development as part of seeing their state education system and they have to think about as they invest in their schools how they prioritize those investments in their teaching career and then we have to be active at the district level. and district setting smart policies around teacher collaboration time. when you as a district labor and management. one of the priorities should be creating more time. i think in the summer b even
before the school year begins. and you create the hybrid rolls. partly in the classroom and the teacher coaches that some districts have developed. there's an opportunity to get that done at the district level and set aside resources for the purpose. at the end of the day we're not going to make teaching better unless we support teachers as the professionals they are and that means the time to collaborate and the incentives to be leaders and the recognition around their leadership. >> well, thank you for your leadership. we're really honored to have you here and grateful for everything to have done for the children and join me in thanking the secretary for joining us.
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two centuries of disaster management from the oval office. washington journal beginning sunday december 18th at 8:30 a.m. eastern. >> brexit secretary david davis briefed a committee early this morning on the preparations and u.k.'s planned departure from the european union and from london this is about two hours. >> can i first of all welcome you and i'm sure it will be the first of many appearances. we have a lot of ground to cover
this afternoon and certainly be helpful and i'm going to kick off following last week's at the bait in the house of commons and the motion that is past the government is going to publish it's plan for the negotiations before article 50 is triggered. when can we expect to see this? as soon as we can chairman, once all the research and policy is complete, i mean the reason for the -- setting the final possible date on the 31st of march but one of them was the determination to carry out all of the policy work first and consult period properly. >> so next month, january, february -- it will be next month. i mean, the policy work is still underway and quite a few decisions still to be made and carry out about 57 which each
has implications and the economy and still to be concluded and we have work still to be done and there's a number of things and it will be as soon as we're ready. >> can you con if i recall that it will be when it is published. >> the first thing that i'll do is remember from the motion one of the constructions in motion in the amended motion and by 372 majority was that i should do it in such a way or the government should do it in sufficient a way that it does not undermine our negotiating position so they'll be very careful. i want to be as open as we can be but we must be sure.
>> with respect, that is to do with the content. and given that as was raised in the debate. when we applied to join in '67 that's the form and what the government is trying to achieve. taking it on many occasions. i'm just trying to understand why it wouldn't be. >> well it will be appropriate. we'll decide on the format when we get closer to time when we know exactly what we're going to present. >> right. can you confirm that you expect to be sitting opposite when the negotiations begin and that you intend them both to cover the divorce arrangements and the new frame work for our relationship with the eu. >> that's how that is going to work. >> the chancellor said on monday there's an emerging view among business regulators and poll situations that it would be helpful to have a longer period to manage the adjustments as we leave the european union.
can we classify you as a thoughtful politician when it comes to transitional arrangements. >> i'm not sure about the second qualification. in that context let me be clear about where i think we're going. firstly, what we're after is a smooth and orderly exist. that's overarching and the point is that's what we're trying to do. that's the purpose of at least part of the tactic and strategy of it. >> and within that box we are to get the maximum market access for companies within the minimum disruption and we'll do what is necessary to that. >> what if all of those things can't be negotiated within could be 18 months.
>> i think that it is all negotiable in that time and that is the core of this really. we have a lot to do. that's one of the reasons. >> everything except sectors effected by trade and they thought it was time enough to do the job and so do i. >> it's one thick for the government to to think we'll be organized and ready to do a deal within 18 months but that may not be the case for the 27
it seems to me that it's perfectly possible to know what the end game is within years implementation phase of something if it's necessary and only if it's necessary but i think yes and the thing to understand here is that the british people want this done with some degree of expedition. >> now it was reported and it was indicated that you were not indicated in the arrangements that said if the eu wanted them you would be inclined to be kind to them.
>> two things. i sometimes burst out laughing and read what i am supposed to have said. it's something you'll recognize. and i think what the substance of your question was and not the commentary or gossip. and there was a record of the conversation with you it doesn't -- what do you think the other 27 -- >> the 27 might be interested in arrangements. >> as it is said the group of people was business man regulators and thoughtful european politicians.
>> that maybe true. >> for a reason. you'll have to protect me from the head game. >> do you worry about the prime minister acknowledged in answering the question. >> well we said in terms we want to have a smooth and orderly exit. that's what we want and i think like all of these things and when you go you try to see where the issues are and deal with them beforehand and then you don't have to worry when you get to the end. we have seen to business over and over again. we'll try to give them the maximum opportunity and the minimum disruption and that's what we're after. >> and does the work that you currently set in trade does it include a contingency plan in case we end up with no deal? say the deal were voted down by
the european parliament. it is not our intention. we're aiming for a free access. the maximum free access to all possible markets but we'll do contingency planning for all the likely outcomes. >> that's very helpful. and before i turn to colleagues on membership of the customs union you tell the house last week this is not a binary option and there's about four different possibilities. and they're still assessing them. could you briefly set out for us what those possibilities are. i'm not saying what the conclusion will be because you haven't reached one yet. you have obviously one and you have countries like turkey that has an arrangement and puts it
inside for some of its economy and allows it to do very limited free trade agreements. you have circumstances like inside of the single market and you have countries like switzerland who have a large number of 20 something trade deals and they have custom arrangements. and not comprehensive and partially inside. outside and free trade agreement and a customed arrangement. and happens across the world and come pleatly outside. that's the sort of spectrum. and that list doesn't include
trying to be in the us toms union in certain sectors. and it's off to the side of the spectrum. are you looking at all whether northern ireland might remain within the customs union in order to avoid a hard border. >> no that's not one of the options we have been looking at so far anyway. and we will determined to maintain that as an open border. but there's an example of how that might be done and they're both in the single market and it's a very open border with particular arrangements in design to make the border a free border. >> okay.
thank you. >> thank you, chairman. i want to set the scene for the progress and the department itself. as a community you went to visit on the 8th of november and bet the department there and we were told at that time when we asked about how much resources there was in staffing and just over 300 people and more was forth coming can you update the progress at the actual department and what resources you're still lacking. >> we have 300 the last time i looked was three days ago. 330. and this has grown from about 40 since july and the department didn't exist at june and 330 now. in addition to that we have 150 and and they're also by definition experts and they come
from all the different departments. and they provide expertise and as well as what might be into what his views are. and frankly what we do and i think you may be told this when you were there. and we have very high quality stuff and we basically look at what task has to be done and see what needs to be put in place. the treasury accepted our budget in full. if we need to go above it then we'll need to use contingency
but because the department will only exist for about 2.5 years and the other issue we have geography. are you still in the office when you visit the chairman. were all of my teams still in the office when it visited. and make it easier to manage but that's it. and we're not constrained except by time. we're going to get this done quickly. and we're actually doing the works and that is in issue for us but the other thing to bear in mind is that the department is a mixture of coordination linking and policy department and we decided right from the beginning that it was not the wise approach to try to
replicate every policy section inside my department so we have people that are very capable that normally come from the department whose policy they are dealing with you deal with department. >> you see that the department is likely to exist around 2.5 years. and transitional arrangements and three or four years down the line. are there any arrangements for monitoring progress and there will be on going work and trade negotiations. >> one of the things i hope the committee realizes is the number of prioritizing the policy work and what they call the engagement works means getting
up and the other involved sectors. and as well as diplomatic in there. and the pattern of requirement of the course at 2.5 years will change and from now until shortly after march is massively predominantly policy driven. there will still be policy action because we may need to switch some approaches and we'll get toward the end of that period. and we needed to extend anything and there's major demand the department there after. >> i'll having trouble hearing you. >> this is excellent and senior
experience people there but there was some concern that a large number of the team are quite experienced in terms of being process driven rather than looking at the individual areas of expertise such as the administration and such as with trade and with, you know, things like some of the concerns that universities have. there wasn't that sort of experience going through. how are you going to deal with some of those gaps? >> two different ways. firstly, and they do tend to come from departments that have that explosion. >> and activities with various stake holders who themselves i say to all of them put in papers and we understand it and quantify it and give us what your solutions are and tell us
what your solutions are about with respect to the policy proposal. and you're quite right may take time to get up to speed on insurance passporting or just in time systems. those sorts of things and so we do look for a bit. we're doing that more gradually and we can take some time with that. with respect to the administrations we have put in place a committee called jmcen. and as a part of that there's been a fairy sizable set of bilateral meetings between them in each of the administrations.
so we take very, very seriously indeed the first place i went to visit. and to this context and that's the other thing we're doing there and that if anything is getting stronger. >> okay. the boards established by the department and three of which are looking at the process of leaving the eu and one around markets and justice and security and one around trade and one around eu funding so tow think the focus in the department is enough about sectors of the country that are going to be effected positively or negatively by the eu. do you think the focus is still in the process of the actual exiting. >> let me go back to the analysis i was talking about
before that we started the 57 industrial and service sectors. there's things like public service sections. we will go through two things and talking to scotland and northern ireland and wales and specific areas of interest to them and the employment levels in agriculture and something like 1.5% or something of that order. and wales has its own perspective and stuff for example. and scotland has the financial services sector of very significant size and of course
it's important and that's the first cup and it's the country. >> i do you feel being so london based is a disadvantaged department. and the first speech i get is -- >> one of my first visits was to glasco. and it's primarily coordinating and it's not doing all the work itself. >> and that's one of the reasons it's set up not to have a political exchange but also to cause an exchange to take place at the level and got the
department doing a hard job and hard job to set it up around the place. you have to do something and so the need to represen everywhere in the u. kflt. they have been around and will continue doing that but that will come. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. >> secretary of state and you prepared the negotiations. what important is being given to the relationships. good relationships that will be needed not just with the negotiations themselves.
>> we are slightly constrained by the commissions sensitivities on no negotiation before notification, right? and the member states want to obey that. that constraint but i have been able to talk to island spain, poland, hungary, finland and then alabama ba then ambassadors beyond that. the prime minister gets to see much of the leaders of the 27 states and is an important part of the negotiation. and no plan survives contact and
very cross about that and it will be the plan when we start. it will be modified by the interests. and our approach to negotiation is on the premise, on two or three premises and number one it's basically the economic premise that other people have common interests without trade is a good thing and $67 billion dev sit with the european union so they have an interest with all of that. we have every intention of continuing to be a good european citizen. and european military defense. and if not now very shortly.
we make huge contributions to counter terrorism. all of these interests are engaged too and i think that in the six months into the first six months of next year i'm going to get -- well, actually, i'm going to get a lot of miles under my belt. >> is there a coordinated plan within the government and the cabinet for ensuring that all of these relationships are being built up at the moment. >> yes. that's going on as we stand. >> thank you. could i turn to the question of non-tariff barriers that seem to be of greater concern. >> how important a part of your negotiating objectives is it to ensure that non-tariff barriers do not reappear. >> you're quite right. i mean the -- one of the reasons
we have left the strategic aim at the level of generality it is is because we recognize that they're probably a bigger issue than tariff barriers and in the long run partly because we have a surplus in services and services are where they hit most so we're put a lot of effort into understanding and grounding things like the non-tariff barriers. and i say effort into grounding because you have a very, very wide range of views of how important this is. it's quite easy to workout the impact of a 10% or 70% tariff or whatever it might be. it's much harder to workout the impact of the removal of a passport scheme or something like that and they're sometimes
rounded and that's probably taking a disproportion gnat and larger than average. >> one thing that u.k. citizens have grown very used to in the past few years is very easily available and arranging cheap air transport. and on sunday on the way to berlin and wanting to travel. one thing they didn't vote for was a reduction in the ability to do that in a convenient way. and on the top of negotiating projections. i've had meetings with him and a round table with the industry myself as well as the ones he has had with the industry and we
think we're in a good position to be honest and britain is in berlin and british airlines are are important. and we have a fair degree. and it's in other people's interest to maintain this as well as us. so we're very keen on that. it's also -- it's not just at a national level. if you are the mayor of a town in one of the mediterranean states that benefits and you have interest too. we're well across that. >>ened it's the european office
and british business has the department given thought to such an important institution as the agency given that the u.k. has a very large pharmaceutical industry which is absolutely vital. >> the answer is on both counts. >> and answer anyway. and the continuing relationship and so on and we have taken the very firm view that we continue to be good european citizens to support these measures for the last couple of years as well as seeking to maintain relationship afterwards. on the european agency we had a lot -- i was in cambridge last
week as well. and we are still getting clear from the industry what their preferred outcome is. there are are some differences in terms of outcome and it's one of the high priority areas. >> thank you very much. >> just transitional and will the government and in the single market and we get the base in the european market. i assumed that that was a
transition. or is this something that can can go beyond the transition. >> firstly the saying is at this stage three months short of the staff negotiation i have every option that i can. i'm not going to shut something off unnecessarily so to not count it out is also not to count it had. but what i'm trying to do is keep open as many negotiating tools as i can. >> so you would be telling us that sort of arrangement of something that could be indefinite. >> i'm not ruling it in either. when we get closer to -- sits wrong. i'm able to come back and talk to you about that.
i may need to do that in close session. >> i'm not ruling something out. >> what were you talking about last week then? make every effort to keep this market open and said yes. the consequences of that. of that getting that to happen. >> one of the issues here and reminds you to get control of our laws. and manufacturing and services
and cooperation of law enforcement and now the reason we haven't specified in more detail on that is there are many ways of achieving those outcomes. and i will be able to tell you the mid game and the end game and we're well into negotiation and on the very important and the attitudes and approaches of 27 other members as well as the commission itself. so to try to say oh will you do this or will you do that, it will actually limit our ability and comes right to the important and i will not do things that undermine our ability. >> last week you were talking about something that might be a transitional and might involve
comes through the actual negotiati negotiation. >> the purpose is to get them on to what they view the policy to be and for example it's got views on what that should be and the aim is to absorb that and make a decision on what that should be. >> they'll make a decision. that's exactly what will happen.
it debate this weeks i was unable to and the debates on the regulation. i would be surprised if there wasn't different views around the table and there will be others. as best we can in the overall national interest. >> you mentioned a number of services: how do you accommodate the issues of administration where you have in scotland. >> we haven't got to that point yet but we are as far as we can. they're not in conflict with each other. that's the main issue here. you can't get one part of the
country a veto over the outcome but you can do everything possible to make sure that they get the best outcome. one of the high priorities would be northern ireland and maintaining that. that's not my priority. i can't predict how the debate will turn out for you, sir. >> on a similar topic there's the government. what engagement have you had with the government? >> some time ago and been in touch on several occasions. and the primary issue is sovereignty and the argument was made over sovereignty and we
have made it very plain and always express the issues of them. it's written into my blood. >> very much. >> thank you, chair. thank you for coming before us this afternoon. in response to a question there and a list of outcomes that you're looking for i was going to ask you what are the key strategic objects you said for yourself in the article 15 negotiations. >> what were they really and respecting the request of the referendum and instruct the people in the rev ren dull and bring back control and beyond that seeking the best national interest outcome for in term of
trade and as close as what you get to the current operational result. not necessarily the current organization. >> you have given us a spectrum of options on the customs union in relation to the single market in return to that in particular you have reported you think we should stay in the single market and what you said and what you haven't said. >> this is one of the things where we have to workout what is compatible and our view at the moment is to keep that general purpose option and game open. not come to conclusion until we have done more work on it. >> are you looking at a range of options and others may disagree
with that. >> although this is one of those things where we have to see what developed on it as well and as much as me. and the stance is a very firm one. it's really quite hard to read how it will develop and that's us but broadly speaking we're speaking to the overarching maximum possible access so this is goods. >> you'll be aware that they all said they want access to the single market. how do you intend to preserve that. >> i think the thing here is to
distinguish -- the thing to bear in mind is people often con flat access and membership and what matters is access. the ability to sell our goods and services in the continent of europe and for european manufacturers and providers to be able to sell their goods and services here. i'm a big believer in free trade and that's what we're after. >> he asked you about this issue of being in the budget and the market. >> as i said to him leaving something open is not saying you're going to do it. i always have to say this by way
would you pay $47 billion. would you pay this, would you pay that? and answer questions like that. keeping something open doesn't mean we're doing it. >> now just turning to theym september that i think is the paragraph that it turns to a hard forger, is that peer reviewed? >> yes, very much. >> well, check points, i çmean, the aim -- very important part of the peace agreement was the removal of any avisible and so on. it doesn't mean it can't tax regimes not in the south. it doesn't mean north and south and other ways. it's very important part of that peace agreement.
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so that's the route we're going now. and i expect at least at that point people's calculation would change from how can we make them change their minds to having best dealings? >> very helpful. i'm anxious. i've been proceeding to close and we have to go vote. >> of course. one last question. >> very, very quickly. is it -- force. >> within the british government to think about for example using corporation tax and changing the regulatory tools within the control in order to make britain and even more attractive destination for investment if the european commission and council seem intent on trying to punish us? >> can you explain that in more detail? >> i'm not sure i can explain. simple point is, we're invited to believe that european union put the screws on us. the point is if they do, they're screwing themselves more than
they're harming us and we have more tools to make our country a far more attractive destination than their country attractive destination for invent ment. so they think we're weak and they're strong say misleading situation. >> you made a good point. i'm not a natural analyst. >> tax policy is probably pabov your pay grade. >> i'll take your advice. >> there san interesting formulation early on about britain remaining european cities and outside the eu. and when we talk about the details and also about what we don't want because we don't want to show our hand, there is a risk on -- within government and parliament that we sound mizely. i wonlder if you share my high level ambition that it is perfectly possible subject to the negotiations which is a two-way process that britain can be an even better neighbor and
trading partner outside of the feathers of the eu. i just wonder if at the highest level that is and ought to be the government's ambition? >> yes. that is my view. i mean that, is the aid. at the end of the day, this is a changing -- a turning point in our history. in which we'll have lots of opportunities to seize which will give britain a better future in my view with a stronger economic future which will be a better economic security cultural diplomatic neighbor. so it is part of the aid. >> thank you. we had a very interesting discussion earlier about facts and opinions on the debate. >> i'm tempted to call the bank ofening glanld and say fit was interesting, it was a mistake.
>> i want to ask a couple quick questions. talks about the best outcome for britain. my interpretation from what you said is that would largely be around what is best for the british economy and our security. they all want to have a secure life. there are other aims. i mean he made a rather good point about the position we hold in the world, if you like. it is also quite -- >> i was also having some meetings with businesses and i was struck by the feedback that from a range of organizations who felt there hadn't been a structured consultation with businesses in different sectors.
i'm not sure if you would feel that you would agree with that. it would be interesting in how you're reaching us and how you're going to community findings from the discussions and whether or not the findings will be reflected in the white paper or the document that might be when that's published. and just as part of this conversation, i was very interested they -- they didn't feel that you or the department had fully understood the implications of the financial services and didn't understand your position on that at the moment. >> say that last sentence again. >> aware of your position on the financial services passport and whether they felt you had understood from their point of view the implications of losing that. and, indeed, their concerns
around equivalence rules with the instability that would bring. >> in terms of the passports, it is a complex subject. but it is not an incomprehensible subject by a long margin. and there are nine different categories. and in aggregate. they affect more than half a dozen areas of finance. but they're not an area where necessarily we are at a disadvantage. for example, something like 5 1/2,000 british companies seek passports. 8,000 union companies seek passports here. so there is a quid pro quo. in terms of our conversations with the company, this is a whole, whole of government operation. it's not simply dexu.
i mean we see it, we've seen 130 companies from every sector of the economy since july. every other department virtually of government has been seeing their own group if that's the right phrase. we've had vast numbers of roundtables, i can send you a list if you like, of those. of course, we can't get around every company. what we are doing and maybe the detailed approach and the detailed problem in each area. and my approach to that is fairly straight forward. i say to them, first, give me the problem, give me the insight of the problem. quantify it. give us an indication how much we're talking about in terms of employment, costs. let me just finish my point. and also what your policy answers are and what you want our policy answers to be. yes, some is complex. you're talking about mutual
equivalen equivalence. there are a whole series of areas where we are working on solutions for them. and we understand only too clearly some of those mutual equivalent mistakes income their view unstable because the ability for change. >> let me -- >> that's what we're trying to sell. >> i just would reiterate that feedback was that consultation hasn't been -- hasn't been structured. and they haven't felt that there has been much communication. and so i'm just -- i'll just leave it there. >> okay. >> but in terms of the feedback. >> i'd be very happy to hear from you in term of areas where you think that's happened. and we'll go back to it. but i can tell you in terms hit been a vast effort, one of the biggest efforts ever is done very quickly. it had to be done quickly. i had to get on with. this but it's -- of course, the conclusion hasn't come out yet.
that's the point. we're half way through the process. okay? >> for obvious reasons, you've quite often today used a phrase that you're not ruling anything out. there is one issue i would like to hear you relate and you mentioned that you wanted to see no hard border between northern ire land and the irish republic. that something we share. but can you rule out that that will not be delivered by having the border controls between the island of ireland and england? >> i don't know at the moment. let me -- my view here is i don't see that will be the solution, to be honest. but what i don't want to do, the primary concern for america the reason i'm hesitating, the primary concern is make sure we don't have that half border. and there are various technical ways of resolving.
that we haven't finished that process. we're doing it in consultation with the irish government or we're making progress with the irish government. we may not have a solution to it in the next few months. i guess that is the very second best solution. i think we can find a better one. i won't make a promise today. i'll make a point of writing to you when we got further down the road of the solution. >> okay. >> will this be published in draft for scrutiny? i said earlier to mr. edwards i don't think we may have hit that timetable. but again, i'll write you. >> the debate last week on the question of whether parliament will have a vote on final deal when it has been negotiated, in
other words you have been using to look parliament and you got an opportunity to look the committee in the eye today and answer a simple yes. you would like to take the chance to do so? >> they cover this and we'll obey the law to the letter. >> i'm going return to you, mr. chairman, with your own words. anybody else put words in your mouth? >> thank you very much for coming to give us an update this afternoon. >> coming up thursday, maryland democratic senator ben cardin who serves on the foreign relations and finance committee talks about donald trump's
nomination to rex tillerson to serve as secretary of state and stephen manuchin as treasury secretary. he talks about reports that russia intervened in the election. and steve bell from the bipartisan policy center on the federal reserve's action to raise interest rates and what the move means for consumers. plus, donna rice-hughes, president and ceo of enough is enough on the issue of cyber bullying which melania trump says will be her platform as first lady. watch "washington journal" beginning live 7:00 a.m. eastern thursday morning. join the discussion. >> later, a discussion on nursing homes and how they're rated. that's live at 2:00 p.m. eastern. next, the joint task force responsible for military support. they begin with a walk through of the time line. this just under an hour.
>> good morning, ladies and gentlemen. on behalf of major general schwartz and major general becker, welcome to this morning's rehearsal of concept drill. i'm captain la teesha balance, the media operations chief for the joint task force national capital region. today we will highlight a culmination of months of preparation and planning between military and civilian entities and preparation for the 58th presidential inauguration. today's agenda includes an invitation to capture imagery of the six by 40 planning map of the washington, d.c., area. which master sergeant lovely will provide an overview and inauguration day activities as he walks the map. following the map overview, you'll have the opportunity to
speak with our subject matter experts from both the jtf-ncr and jtf national guard d.c. who are involved in all the planning and execution. in addition, major general schwartz, commander for the joint task force, district of colombia and major general bradley becker, commander for the joint task force national capital region will provide opening remarks. finally, we will host a press conference with senior leaders, joi joint task force and the joint task force district of columbia. the press conference will be held on the other side of the armory and the public affairs officers will escort you to that area following the remarks. at this time, i will like to introduce master sergeant lovely.
>> good evening, ladies and gentlemen. my name is aaron lovely. i'm the senior enlisted inaugural planner for the joint task force national region. again on behalf of our commander and bradley becker, i want to welcome you to this meeting of our ceremonial rehearsal concept. today i'm going to be walking you throw an overview highlighting the key areas of support and ceremonies as well as walk you through the life of president-elect inauguration. and the experts for the different ceremony throughout the area. this large map is a valuable tool for us to stage the coordinated efforts of the many organizations involved in support of the inaugural
ceremonies. from this vantage point is trump hotel and from east to west are the capitol, the national mall, pennsylvania avenue here which will be the parade route, the washington monument, and the lincoln memorial. historically, there have been as many as 5,000 military and up to 10,000 civilian participants for inauguration day ceremonies. to move these assets through the crowds of up to 800,000 general public requires strategic planning especially for staging and movement. so to this end, we have identified three primary areas for staging our operations outside -- just located outside
of this map. one of the first ones of these very close here just on the southeast side across the an costa river. this will be where joint anacostia bowling is. they'll be washinging around the capitol area. this is personnel working for the swearing in ceremony and the presidential ez court that will lead the president to the white house from the capitol. for horses, yes, i said horses and other four footed participants in the parade, we've identified the location of the prince george's equestrian center which sloekt eis located southeast. animals here will be vetted, fed, and assessed for their ability to remain calm in a crowded parade environment. to the other side of the city across the potomac river, we have the pentagon north parking lot. this will play host to the
largest number of participants on inauguration day. in addition to the joint servicemen and women that make up the military group, the formation that will stand shoelder to shoulder across pennsylvania avenue, it will also be the starting poin for the civilian and military participants for the parade. traveling into the city on inauguration day is going to be a chief concern for many whether you're playing a part as a participant or you're onest general public that wants to make your way into the city. the means for getting into town from many of the folks will be one of the vounldisurrounding b on the outskirts of the map. historically for past inaugurations, we've been able to move our assets from the pentagon across the arlington memorial bridge here. however, there have been new restrictions placed upon this bridge to limit heavy traffic which includes buses.
at this time the plan to s. to most assets across the 14th street bridge and into town. so with our staging areas planned and our routes coordinated, we're ready to begin the time line for inauguration day. on this day historically, the first stop for the president-elect is placed just to the north of the white house across lafayette parken that is st. john's episcopal church where the president and vice president will attend a church service. following the service, a short distance to the next stop which is right straight south down to the white house where we have a cordial meeting with the outgoing president and sign some administrative documents. from here, the president and president-elect will be escorted down pennsylvania avenue on their way to the capitol. they will be moving through the
joint servicemen and women, the cordon, and they will present their salute to the outgoing commander in chief as they move down pennsylvania avenue and make their way to the capitol. from the capitol, they will move through the building and then be announced on to the platform to begin the inaugural swearing in program. of course this culminates the oath of office which takes place right before 12 noon and immediately following that is the inaugural address. and at the conclusion of that ceremony, the outgoing commander in chief will department through the capitol. at the same time, the new president will be escorted into the hall into the capitol for a congressional luncheon. the time line continues then after the lunch. the president, vice president and their spouses will be met at
the top of the east capitol steps by major general becker and be escorted down to the lower level where they will be honored with the review from the presidential escort troops. once the troops have moved across the east steps, the presidential party will enter into their motorcade and follow along the procession and move back down the presidential route right here. once again, as they're moving through pennsylvania avenue, they're going through the joint service military cordon which will salute the new commander in chief as he makes his way to the white house. once they've arrived here at the white house, the vice president and president will leave their vehicles and make their way into the white house reviewing stand and they'll be ready for the inaugural parade to begin. so while all the ceremonies.
personal marching elements coming from the pentagon will be asem bling here at 14th street bridge. and the west end of the mall for the assets that are horses that we mentioned before. and on the west side of c and fourth street and the staging area son the other side, on the east side of c and fourth street. so we have these three particular parts, the float staging, horses and the personnel, they will all move their way down to the east, down to fourth street to the merge point that is south of pennsylvania avenue to continue the parade on down to the white house. the parade consists of five divisions. each division is led by one of the services of the military. first division is army. second is marine, third navy,
fourth, air force, and the fife sj made up of the united states coast guard and merchant marines. as these -- as the parade elements move down pennsylvania avenue, make the turn here on 15th and then continue through the white house reviewing stand, they'll each have their moment to honor the new president of the united states as they march by. after they marched by the white house, they will continue on just a short distance further to the west where they will meet up with their buses and then be released to their home stations. this almost concludes the day here for personnel and actually for the president on his big day here. he's got one more big event that he gets to attend and that will be the inaugural ball that will be located throughout the city. and i know that sparks the question as to where these are and i'll tell you right up front that at this point we have yet to note number, scope, and venues for these. that is yet to be determined. so that is the exciting festivities and outline ofinaug.
my pleasure toinlt deuce our first speaker, major general bradley becker. good morning, everyone. i would like to thank you for attending the rehearsal of concept drill. 36 days from today the nation will witness our 58th presidential inauguration as we again celebrate the peaceful transfer of power and inaugurate our 45th commander in chief. membersst arms forces have been involved in every presidential inauguration since april 30th, 1789 when soldiers and militia escorted president george washington to federal hall in new york city. military support for the inauguration is appropriate, traditional, and important in honoring our president and commander in chief. it also recognizes our commitment to civilian control of the military. as always, we'll showcase the excellence of our military
forces while demonstrating our dedication to commit ment and duty. as you can imagine, planning an vent for hundreds of thousands of spectators in the nation's capitol and millions more viewing around the world is a monumental undertaking. accordingly this joint task force spent many months preparing to ensure the entire inaugural period is a success. through planning combined with many rehearsals such as you have seen this morning, our military personnel will ensure approximately 5,000 service members compromising musical units and marching bands and color guards and salute batteries and honor cord yoens will renlder appropriate ceremonial honors to our new commander in chief. our joint task force also provides substantial assistance to the presidential inauguration committee, the joint committee -- congressional committee on inaugural
ceremonies and the united states secret service as well as other federal, state, and local agencies to ensure a safe and secure environment on january 20th. it is truly historic and exciting time for the joint task force national capital region and for our entire nation. i'm proud to lead this team and represent the millions of uniformed service members who are serving around the world. and i look forward to answering your questions, thank you. >> from the d.c. national guard, please welcome earl schwartz. >> good morning, the d.c. national guard has been involved in presidential inaugurations since 1861. and we have done several of these activities here in the nation's capital.
we are currently receiving support from over the state so we'll have just short of 8,000 guardsmen on the streets of washington supporting our local authorities and our federal agencies. we look forward to having a peaceful transition of power on the 20th of january. just 36 days away. we'll continue to work with the agency to make sure that we have a peaceful transition of power. thank you very much and i look forward to your questions. >> thank you, sir. the deputy commander for joint task force national capital region, brigadier general george degnon. >> good morning. i have to give you our welcome. thank you for joining us for our ceremony rehearsal and thank you to the d.c. national guard for
hosting to day's event. as deputy for inaugural support for the 58th presidential inauguration is a privilege and honor to be part of our american history. my primary role as deputy commander for inaugural support is to help with the presidential inaugural committee often referred to as the pick and the joint congressional committee for inaugural ceremonies. together, we ensure men and women of the joint task force national capital region perform their many key roles honoring our new commander in chief with precision and professionalism. they're all planning for many months to ensure the peaceful transition of pow cher say corner stone of our democracy. as u.s. military members, geerting valuable experience through the partnerships created and planning we conducted with other governmental agencies. berecognize that through our
partnerships we constantly move toward january 20th and the american public and continue to stren then the trust they placed in us. i like to echo what general becker said, we strive to showcase our excellence and demonstrate our dedication and commitment to duty. thank you. i look forward to your questions. >> finally, remarks from brigadier general william j. walker, district columbia commander. we look forward to they vent every four years. for many of us, this will be my sixth inauguration with the districts columbia national guard. i had the privilege of being the task force commander for the
national guard in 2013 and i was an operations officer in 2009 and in 2005. so they're coming from 40 different states and for manufacture the guardsmen, army and air tshgsz a major he veblt that they look forward to. it's a tremendous recruiting tool for us and a retension tool too come and be part of a historic event such as this every four years. just a bit of trivia, we just had a guardsman who was here for president carter. we can only stay in the military so long. he wasn't able to stay for this one.
the department of homeland and emergency management security and as general schwartz mentioned, we've been doing this since 1861. i am honored to have this command and i look forward to your questions, thank you again for coming. >> if you would please stand and state your name and your affiliation for the record and again who your question is directed to. again, because of the large turnout and in order to ensure as manufacture you as possible have the opportunity to ask questions, i ask again to please limit yourself to one question and one follow up. i will now take the first question.
>> right here. >> hi, i'm nancy from the a.p. i think this question is best for brigadier general bregdon but if anyone else wants to jump in, that's fine. the walk through on the map was predicated on what would be a typical day, inauguration day for a president-elect. in your conversations with pick, you have been given any assurances or indications that president-elect trump wants the typical inauguration day? he wasn't a typical candidate. is this possible he might want to do things differently than in the past? >> the planning we've been doing for the inauguration started
many months ago. in a sense, we were apolitical in that we had a plan for the inauguration regardless who have is elected. so the map is real. it's all based on historical precedence. a lot has to do with coordinating with the different agencies. we're still negotiating with the committee as far as specifics for pat raid. but, you know with, the city laid out the way it is, the number of people that we're bringing into this city, there's, you know, only so many ways you can make this thing happen. we're still waiting on the details. but generally speaking, the inauguration is taking shape as it has in the past. it is subject to change, as you know. >> great, thank you very much. sir, your question. >> todd lopez, army news service. this will be for general becker.
how many military uniform personnel involved overall? i heard will 8,000 guardsmen from 40 states. are there even more guardsmen as well? are there active duty? how many total personnel under you, sir? >> great. i will address what we refer to as the title ten, the active duty service members that fall under my command as the joint task force ncr commander. so we'll have a little over 5,000 to support ceremonially. that includes everything from the parade, supporting inaugural balls to support for the swearing in ceremony. the logistical support to make all the movements and get the parade folks from their staging area to where they're going to set up for the parade itself. we got another -- about 2,000 that are in support of our -- of the u.s. secret service and capitol police. if you look at the title ten
side under the joint task force region, it's about 7,000 total, 5,000 will be out at the site itself. i think it's about 8,000, just under 8,000 that will be under a tight 382 status. so when you add all this up together, you're looking at about 13,000 actually out at the site and then a couple thousand more from my joint task force supporting from behind the scenes. >> we're coordinating with the task force 28 which is a 28th idea of pennsylvania who have the homeland response force and there is about 600 folks there and the primary duty is to augment the forces in the nation's capital if needed.
though appear to support us if needed. >> great, thank you. let's go to this side over here, the gentleman. >> thank you. tom sherwood from nbc 4 here in washington. in addition to the hundreds of thousands of people expected to come to celebrate the trend for power, there are also going to be an x number of protesters. to what extent are the military -- i know the national guard more likely is involved, but what do the military officers do in case of civil unrest? >> who is in charge of all that? >> the national guard is in support of local authorities. one of the things that we will do with our national guard
members is to deputize them within the district of columbia which means we will support law enforcement activities. if something goes bad, it's up to the law enforcement agency to make the first move, if you will. and only if needed would they call on the national guard to support them. we are here to support all law enforcement initiatives within the district of colombia. >> once you're deputized, the guard has the full authority to support law enforcement. so it's not a question of activating. they're already active and they're already on the streets.
there will be housed within the area that they are supporting so they are supporting the secret service, park police, mpd, all law enforcement agencies that asked for our support. >> great, thank you. we have a question over here. sir? >> thank you. >> i'm wonldering what is the biggest challenge and also what is the biggest threat which might disrupt the ceremony? >> that's a great question. as the capital region, one of our biggest challenges is making sure all of the members that make up this joint task force get properly credentialed to get into the areas. that sounds like a very administrative mundane type of task, but noit's no small feat.
we work closely in support of the u.s. secret service. that is their per view is focused on them. and we understand the threat. you know, clearly, at this point, the biggest concern are the number of potential protesters. i don't know that any have been permitted yet. and, you know, from our concern, one of the other big concerns is weather that day. we'll have service members out there from 3:00 in the morning until late that night supporting and they'll be outdoors. so you know, a couple toutdoors. so you know, a couple thing wez can't control like the weather. but that's one of our big concerns. thanks. >> over here in the far left. >> marty vandime. i have two questions. one of them, i know you said you're still negotiating or dealing with the pick on this but do we have any indication
whether president trump will get out of his car and walk the parade route? t at this point is number i sat in some of the executive steering committee meetings planning for this and the secret service talked about. this previous presidents have i don't. at this point we don't know what the president-elect plans to do during the parade. >> okay. the other question goes back to the security issue and protesters, are there going to be roped off areas for the protesters as there has been previously? >> i would pass that to general walker who is a task force commander on the street. >> we have task for security, task force crowd, task force access that will be roped off areas. >> thank you. >> great, thank you.
question over here in front, sir? >> thank you very much. >> she just touched on that subject. on a separate note, how challenging is it for the four of you to at the same time you express how this is an honor to be a part of this day and how much significance? but to convey that message to the personnel that will be serving that day to stay focused even though it's a time in history? >> i'll start and then obviously i pass it to the national guard brothers. we showed a video at 1789 at federal hall in new york city. we show that to all of the inauguration teammates. the purpose for that was to remind them that this isn't just
about 2017 and the 58th presidential inauguration. this is about a long history of the military support to presidential inaugurations. and so we're not only representing here in 2017 when we conduct the ceremony, all of the millions of service members from all services, all components that wear this uniform and we represent all those who came before us and what they did to support presidential inaugurations from 1789 up to present. so i think we just try to instill in them the historical significance of this. and what it reps not just to our country but really to the entire world. >> the challenge i have with the national guard as you heard, there will be the territories coming in to support. i spoke to the chief of the police department, the chief of the capitol, the chief of the
park police. and remembering that we are in support of them, we will have to understand their rules of engage ment so we can brief the service members coming in from different states. general becker talked about representing the uniform and the military. if you look at the uniform, general becker is active. i'm guard. we look alike. so the uniforms are alike. so it's difficult for the public to know is this a guardsman or active duty? so we have to represent the uniform that's we have on. army and air and case of the guard. and we have a reception station where we receive all troops coming into the district.
and the illegal briefings, code of conduct briefings, there are a series of briefings we go through before they're deputized and launched to their respective work areas. >> sir in, the front here? >> general becker, you made an interesting point about the weather. can you run us through the resources you'll be using and the time line, when you'll start checking? a lot of people have ten day forecasts. will you be doing it 20? just run us through what you're expecting to do with the weather. >> so far, i put the chaplin on this task and he is guaranteed us a beautiful 40-degree clear very nice day. >> seriously thashz a great question. the presidential inauguration committee will have -- they will make a determination about whether there will be an outdoor parade based on the weather
forecast. and, of course, we'll support whatever their decision is. as far as the weather call dpor our service members if, the call from the presidential inauguration committee is to do an outdoor ceremony and parade, at 4:30 in the morning, based on the weather for that day, we have multiple uniforms and every one of our service members that will be outdoors participating in this have three different uniforms that they'll carry with them. at 4:30, i'll make that call. and they'll go to the appropriate uniform. so we're all in the same uniform and the appropriate uniform based on that. so at 0430 on the 20th of january, i'll make that final call for the folks that will be outside. >> for the guard, we have several units that are coming in from different parts of the country. virgin islands, florida, rome, they'll all be here. my concern is making sure that
they can find their cold weather gear before getting here. but this is my tenth inauguration. and we can look back a little bit at 2009, for example. that was a very cold day. and we make sure that all of our service members have all of the equipment that they need to get through whatever weather may come at us. so we're in constant contact with the states that are supporting us, letting them know what gear to bring. great. question, ma'am? for the microphone. one moment. >> perry stein with the "washington post." you mentioned that there will be 13,000 services in the city on inauguration day. i want to make sure that number is correct and, two how many of them will be armed? >> that number is -- i've got
5,000 supporting on the active duty side. the national guard, approximately will 8,000. so that number is correct. and none of the active duty title ten service members will be armed. >> none of the guardsmen will be armed. >> sir, follow up. >> what is the advice -- the various officers are enlisted people will be given in terms of taker nix aanti-terrorismism an attacks knowing that police take first control? this is a secret service national special security event. what is the advice to the officers who are coming in from out of town to be alert and aware obviously. >> before we gu ties them, they will be getting a security briefing and intelligence briefing on what to expect.
as i mentioned earlier, we have spoken to the chief of the metropolitan police department, chief of the park police, the chief of the capitol and we are following their lead. we are there in support of them. so if there is a threat or an outburst, they will be the first to respond. but we will be right there with them in case they need our support. >> thank you. >> as far as ceremonial participants go, they're all going to be handed a quick reaction card of steps to follow and those types of things. but any time there is an event like this, there is a very well thought out retro grade plan where they'll take accountability and get on buses. the same bus wez use to get in and out of the sitty. and again, the military is not the first responders. so we'll regroup and then, you know, take accountability and establish command and control and go from there. >> thank you, sir. ma'am, up here in front.
>> i heard crowd estimates on the other side of approximately 800,000. i'm wondering if that is a generic estimate devised before the inauguration or if you're revising crowd estimate based on, you know, buses being chartered and hotel rooms being booked and, you know, social media. i mean, how good is that number? and, you know, how might it fluctuate in the coming weeks? >> we are prepared to support whatever crowds come with us. our framework has been established and established in 2008 during president obama's first inauguration where we had crowds upwards of one million folks within the nation's call
tall. the framework with the chief establishes has the flexibility to deal with crowds. yes, we are in the receive mode tooz what that number would be. but it would not affect our planning processes. >> but so is will 800,000 the working crowd estimate? and, i mean, assuming -- you know, you want a more refined estimate as time goes on. >> yes. and we have heard the number of 800,000 also. but our planning process and the number of support personnel we have provided to the agencies will not change. an additional strategy we have put in place that i mentioned one of those a little earlier about the route of pennsylvania, but we have contingency forces built into earth strategy that we can get a morrow bust force
in any one of the subtask force that's general walker mentioned earlier. task force, crowd manage ment, task force security, access. there are several task forces. and the way we have designed the force is to have more military police which are army forces and security forces from the air so my formation is made up of heavy number of military police and security forces who understand police work. >> great. thank you very much. >> the mission analysis is on going. so the 800,000 is a good number to start with but as general schwartz mentioned in 2009 it was over a million. the important thing to take away is that whatever the number is, the united states military and the national guard can support our district and federal
government partners. we have the ability to surge. we have the ability to lift and shift. as general schwartz mentioned, we have 11 task forces. so we can august ment those people. we have it broken down our analysis because as general becker said, we can't control the weather. that we would have maybe an eight hour shift or ten hour shift. so what happens? something goes bad where we need to augment that, eight hour shift becomes a 12 hour shift. the 12 hour shift backs a 14 hour shift. we're fundamentally service members. so we're used to long hours. we're not talking about an extended operation. can you work 12, 14, 16 hours if you have to. we've all done it. we're ready. >> thank you, sir. ladies and gentlemen, there are just a few more minutes remaining in our question and answer session. we have time for just two more questions. yes, sir?
>> thank you. wyatt goldsby. this question is taken by any of you. my question is about the significance of the trump hotel here in washington, d.c. i noticed on the big map there it is highlighted. is there any other significance in terms of security? is there going to be, to your knowledge, any extra police or secret service? how does that sort of play into it other than the fact it is located right there along the route? >> we are in support of law enforcement and their plan. in the metropolitan police department decides that that's a primary target and they need to have additional security there, we will be in support of their plan. whether it be mpd officers,
additional officers, probably so. will there be guardsmen there? maybe. maybe not. but whatever analysis that they have performed, we will be there. it could be traffic control. and understanding where that building is, it's right in the heart of the parade route and everything else. so we -- it will be secured. because of it's location. >> thank you. >> great. time for just one more question, sir. >> thank you. how were the guard units selected? is there any significance to having such an expansive range of units from all over the country?