tv Road to the White House 2020 - Gov. Steve Bullock CSPAN April 17, 2018 1:28am-2:43am EDT
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my family and i have been fortunate to live in this community for the last 19 years and it is a wonderful community. and welcome to the great state of iowa. you know, we have so many things to be proud of in this state. the weather not so much today, but -- come back some time when the weather is as nice as the people. >> you know, iowa does have so much to be proud of. great public schools led by world-class educators, safe communities, and warm, caring and welcoming neighbors. but iowa, like so many other states around this country, seems to have gotten off track. the iowa i know was the first state to send or to set barack obama on the road to the white house when he won the iowa caucuses in 2008. the iowa i know was one of the first states to legalize
same-sex marriage. you know, the iowa i know once proudly supported our public schools, yet today we are under funding our schools and we're stripping away collective bargaining rights from public employees. the iowa i know welcomed refugees in the 1970s under the leadership of republican governor bob ray. yet just this week we passed a law banning sanctuary cities. the bad news is that we've lost our way. the good news is that that's all about to change. my campaign, like so many others in this country and in this state, is energized by committed supporters. we are going to flip the iowa house of representatives blue this november. have no doubt, the blue wave is coming across this state, and it will not just be a blue wave, it's going to be a blue tsunami.
and we're going to get iowa and the rest of the country back on track, back to prioritizing the interest of everyday americans rather than the interest of rich donors and corporations. and why am i so confident about our future? well, just look at the crowd here. look at this energy. >> and i'm also confident about our future because we have leaders like governor bullock who are going to help us to get there. and i want to share a few things about governor bullock. he's a two-term governor, and former attorney general of montana who has spent his career fighting for working people and the common good. he led successful fights to raise montana's minimum wage and protect access to public lands and water, and he has grown montana's canopy by making record investments in public education.
>> thank you. under his leadership, more people are working in montana than ever before and the state consistently leads the nation in new business creation. he has successfully worked with republican -- with a republican legislature to enact meaningful campaign finance reform and to expand medicaid. and he was our nation's first governor to sign an executive order protecting net neutrality. governor bullock has repeatedly vetoed republican bills that would have undermined public education, civil rights, and a woman's right to choose. and that's the kind of leadership that we need in this country. he is a husband and a father of
three children in public schools. governor bullock knows public service is about more than politics. like so many of us, he knows that for him and for his family and for families across this country, it's personal. so, please join me in welcoming to johnston, governor bullock. >> thank you so much, karin. thank all of you for coming out today. you know, i had a chance to talk a little bit with karin before, with karin and her team, i have no doubt that she can win 214 days from now, come november. i've also had a couple great days in iowa. i had the chance to meet with senator hogue and the rest of the senate democrats as well as most house democrats yesterday.
we were in colfax, we were in ames, we were in marshall town today and really talking to folks about what it means to be a democrat and what we need to do for this 2018 election going into 2020. ostensibly here and i think still on his way, as karin mentioned i was attorney general before i became governor and i started out kind of as a baby lawyer in the attorney general's office. rose up to chief deputy. i got to meet this guy named tom miller. if you're like a beatles fan, it would be like meeting paul mccartney. i'll never forget the first time. he goes, i'm tom miller. and i'm like, the tom miller? because fundamentally and what you may not appreciate in iowa is what you have and what influence he's had not only to your state, but for the country. when you look at many of the major things that attorneys
general have done, from tobacco settlement, to when there is a financial meltdown, the a.g.s will step in, help people keep their houses, to when i became attorney general, i wanted to model what he's done in agriculture. so, we literally sent folks out from my office to spend two weeks learning from him. tom has shaped what consumer protection is for our country and he's also shaped it for individuals. so, i think tom will be here in a little while. i've been doing some campaigning for him. but i hope you remember how amazing this guy is because he really does make a meaningful impact across the country. now i know that you have a lot of people that come to iowa and try to make some connections. i'm not going to talk about the fact that my mother was born in tumla. i'm not going to talk about my great, great grandfather in 1856
coming to henry county and starting a farm. i'm not going to talk about that. instead, i want to talk about -- first a little about 2016, because in so many ways i think november of 2016 was disastrous not only for our country, but our country's standing in the world. and i hope also for democrats it's a wake up call. i'll take you to my 2016. running for reelection for governor, running against a guy -- running more ads in the state of montana than any state in the nation. running against the wealthiest, second wealthiest, now he's a member of congress. put in $4.5 million of his own. on election day, donald trump took montana by 20 points and i won by four points. getting your head around this. 20% of the folks that voted for me also voted for donald trump.
and there's a piece as we go forward because people have wanted to say, what's wrong with those voters? i think what we have to be saying is, what did they not understand about the democrats? how were we not connecting and speaking with them so that they understood that their values for a lot of these folks are our values? and even if you go today, looking back in 2016, a lot of the strategy was we need to find all of our democrats and drag them to the polls. not just actually talking and showing up at places. even today, the question is what's going to be more important going forward? turning out or our base or persuading trump voters? my question is why the hell can't we do both? >> yeah! >> fundamentally and philosophically, and i'm not going to say that i have all the answers for going forward, but to get elected and to serve in
government, i have to go a lot of places where there's not a lot of democrats in sight. i have to talk to people. i have to listen to people and it's not just about winning elections. why does karin derry want to run? not so they can call her representative. but so she can meaningfully impact people's lives and do it in a way where her community and those three kids will have a better life. in montana, as she mentioned, my legislature is two-thirds republican. we fought for 15 years to get an earned income tax credit passed. we did it last session, impacting 80,000 montanaens. in publicly funded preschool. we've never once compromised on a woman's right to make their own health care decisions. we've never undercut working montana's organize labor lives
either. i'll tell you something too and she mentioned it, the corporate amount of spending, what's happening now, we actually passed one of the most progressive laws when it comes to adding sunshine into our elections. i'll take you back a little bit. i was attorney general when this little case came up called citizens united. i wrote the brief that the majority of states at that point republican a.g.s a handful joined on, too, saying the vast majority of elections happen in the state and local level. and let's not allow these elections to be bought by corporate interests because montana had an incredible history of corporate domination of our overall system. in 1908, a newspaper said the greatest living issue confronting us today is whether the corporation shall control the people or the people shall control the corporations. we finally took our system back and made it so there could be no corporate spending in our election. so citizens united came up, you're dang right, it was
important for 100 years of montana history. we lost that case. every other state said game over. as attorney general, i said, no, wait a minute. we actually could build a record to talk about the fact that corporate spending and just the threat of it could corrupt our system. i had testimony from democrats and republicans saying make sure that elections are decided by people, not others. and unfortunately -- well, fortunately we won at our state supreme court. personally argued it. we went all the way to the u.s. supreme court. the first case after citizens united. two years later and on a 5-4 decision the u.s. supreme court threw out 100 years of montana history. now, we can turn around and say we just have to accept it, but what i did is brought democrats, republicans together. the law that we passed is no matter what tax status you want to try to hide behind, 501 c-4, whatever mailbox you want to live in, if you're going to spend money in our elections, you actually have to disclose where
that money is coming from. if we're going to make it so our elected officials are like nascar, bought and paid for by all kinds of things, people ought to at least know who is writing that check. so, working with even republican majorities, we passed this law that said 60 days out you have to disclose all your spending, all your contributions and even the koch brothers stayed out of our elections last cycle. if we can do that in mont mopt -- montana, we can do that in iowa and everywhere in the country. it's more than just about that, though. it is great to be here because by some respects i shouldn't be based on those numbers, based on those spending. i'm optimistic because i am here. and i'm optimistic and determined not only for that, but also for what can happen going forward. looks, i was -- my background, i was -- had regular access to the governor's house as a kid.
that's because i was raised in a single parent household four blocks away and i delivered newspapers to the governor's house. literally i've gotten four blocks in life. i went to college out of state. the first time i ever went there was the first day of school because the idea of college visits was beyond my family's financial means. i worked my way through college. i borrowed my way through law school. i had the opportunity to live in places like new york and washington, d.c. and philadelphia for a little while. but i moved home and i moved home because that's where i wanted to raise my kids. in many ways from where i came to where i was is from my perspective the american dream. i'm optimistic about that. but i also know that that's one of the things that drives me, but now having a 15-year-old, a 13-year-old and 11-year-old, that's what makes me optimistic continually because knowing that we need to make sure that they have those same opportunities that we did growing up and more, but let's not kid ourselves.
the american dream is getting further out of reach for a whole bunch of folks. and not only that, it's under attack. i'm not going to say everything is great. it's hard to actually listen to the news or read a newspaper without seeing the threats to things that are so important to so many of us. for medicare and health care, to our standing in the world from climate to fair trade. to russian interference. and if it's nothing else, i've worked darn hard with my kids and i know you have with your kids and grand kids. we try to teach them to be respectful, to be thoughtful. we now expect less of our president than we do of our preschoolers. that's not the representative democracy we want. i think, though, that this is something that we can change, and i'm optimistic about the ability to make those changes.
a few things that i learned in montana, both in governing and in running for office, i hope we can all learn. first of all, while it seems simple, we need to show up. showing up is not just talking to people that always think the same way, but it's not just going to polk county. it's also going to jasper county, it's going to other places. we can't just sit here speaking to ourselves if we think we're going to win. before i came to iowa i actually went to places like michigan and wisconsin. in 2016 we did not even show up in those states. and if the idea is that nationally democrats, all we can do is grab both the coats and we can grab groups that traditionally support us and win and skip over the rest of the country, even if you could win an electoral majority, you're not going to win the ability to governor.
you're not going to be able to win the ability to governor if we're not talking to folks all across this country in places like this. showing up isn't just winning elections. i will never forget i wanted to get medicaid expanded in montana. i went to a town called shodo. the population is 1,700. they seem to know most of the folks knew i was going to be showing up because koch brothers were nice enough to fill everybody's mailbox and call everyone and say bullock is going to bring his obamacare stuff. walked into this big community room and you could look around, not a lot of bollock voters there. but i got them talking. and the hospital said 40% of the people that walk through the hospital doors didn't have health insurance. a county commissioner said this hospital saved my life twice. if this hospital wasn't here, not only would i not be here, but this town would be gone.
so their recognition, they're talking to me, me not talking to them, gave that republican legislator the support to buck her party leadership, to buck the koch brother s as a result we went from 20% uninsured in 2013 to 7% uninsured today. showing up means going places and actually talking and engaging. it's not about micro targeting. it's not about slicing dicing the election. it's actually listening to people and giving them a reason to vote for us. second of which, i think at times we think that the values of folks in different places may not be the same. there's a town in montana called manhattan, has 1700 people. now, folks in manhattan
montana, and the folks in manhattan, new york, in madison county, their lives are too busy for politics. think about it shgs what do folks want in value? they want a safe community. they want a roof over their head, a decent job, clean air, clean water, quality public schools, and the belief that you can do better for your kids or grand kids than even for yourself. those are the values of most americans. you're darn right sure those are the values that democrats in iowa and montana, across the country have been fighting for for a heck of a long time. we have to help people understand that not only do we share their values, but we're fighting for their values. and we also have to be for something, not just against something. it's so easy to be against everything that's happening in washington, d.c. right now. it's so easy to say, this is not the direction our country and our world should be going. but it's not enough just to be
against him. we have to have voters understand that we are for something and we are for them. at the end of the day, there has to be an economics message, a jobs message as part of this. i'm to proud of -- i'm pleased at least with what we've done with investing in education, whereas other states have been gutting education. but i'm also pleased with the fact that we've increased apprenticeships, work base learning by 30%. so there are folks that can be a phlebotomist to a welder to an i.t. person that is making a better living while they're learning skills. we need to make sure that as our economy changes, as things change, that folks know that we are going to be a partner with them. we are going to be for it. we're not just going to be tweeting against things and giving speeches. give people a reason to vote for us, not just against him.
fourth and finally, i think there is no such thing as a national issue, and i'll tell you what i mean by that. i did a lot of work in my first term on the gender pay gap. how is it we could be over 50 years since john f. kennedy signed the equal pay laws and women are still making 67, 70 cents on a dollar, how can we be in that place? so, i did a lot of work. we did things, changing interviews, some are executive. we tried some legislative stuff. i wanted to make that part of my campaign. folks said, no, that's a national issue. you can't talk about national issues. it's got to be -- it's hillary clinton, our national democrat. even though we had done all that work. so the ad that we ran was my at the time 14-year-old daughter and i playing basketball. her talking about what she wants out of a state and a country. what we had been trying to do so that she knows when she starts
her first job after college that she'll get paid equally for equal work as her male counterparts. the point being on that is there are no such things as national issues. every issue that we as democrats fight for, every issue that we as democrats believe in, actually are around a pub table or a kitchen table. we need to figure out the way to communicate so they understand that these are the issues that matter to them. it's not an abstract what we work on as we are working for better lives and better jobs and for equality. it is not just something that impacts people elsewhere. we need to make sure people understand it impacts folks in every corner and every one of your homes. and i think we can do it. it's not that hard. we have to at some point stop looking backwards, too. you know, the -- was it mo udall
ran for congress, he actually ran for president in 1976, and he was at the national convention. he said, you know, when democrats assemble a firing squad, we usually do it in a circle. there is so much to be upset of what's happening in washington, d.c. right now. there is so much for senator hogue and others to be upset and all of you what's happened at your state house. and it is time now with 214 days before these 2018 elections to make sure that as democrats, a big tent at democrats, we're not pointing at one another. but we're saying we want to make sure we wake up the day after the 2018 midterms saying, i was back on the track. we want to make sure that we're leading into 2020 knowing we won't wake up on election day,
the day after 2021 and still say, what, president trump? and we can do that. you here in iowa have 214 days between now and the election. not that i end up counting those. when i was running, my kids put that counter on my phone. every day i'd have to look at it. we know that elections aren't won by money, though money is important for your candidates. elections at the end of the day are won by people talking to people. we are still a state and a country where we are all equal on election day. our vote is our voice, and we have the opportunity equally to impact this representative democracy we live in. so, i hope the energy that i see here in april here, i hope for the next 217 days you make sure to carry it forward. so karin derry is your next
representative from this community. you have a state treasurer, you have a state auditor's race. you have an attorney general's race. you have an ag commissioner's race and a governor's race that if you take this energy, you can make sure that iowa is blue as it should be. so i ask you to give of your time and your energy and make sure we don't waste one of these 214 days. did out, talk to people, say what's wrong, but tell folks we are fighting for them, not against them, and make that discussion valuable for every kitchen table across iowa. so appreciate you having me out today. there is, by the way, the tom miller. the tom miller.
>> thank you. thank you very much. did he say bad things about me, any bad things about me? good, good. i'll be very brief. three quick things. one is, you now, thanks for all you've done for me. i feel very lucky to have been attorney general now quite a few times, and it's a great job and it's a great job because you get to use the law to serve the interest of ordinary people. and you get to follow the rule of law in a truthful legal way. it's a great job and i feel very fortunate. and it's people like the people in this room that have given me the chance to be attorney general many times. i ask you to help me again. they haven't found an opponent so far. but i've been here before and they almost always find one at the state convention in june.
we need to be ready for that, ready for him or her, and help me again keep this wonderful job that i have. and i want to underscore how important this year is. i think steve has touched on that very well. but we haven't done as well in iowa for a while now, and it's slipping away from us. this is the year we can grab it back and we really have to. this is our best chance to do that. in a way, president trump is providing that opportunity perhaps. it would be quite fitting if he gives us a wonderful victory, but we will get that victory only if we go out and grab it and seize it ourselves and do all we can for all these candidates. and in closing i just want to say a couple things about my friend steve bullock. we've been friends a long time. i met him when he was working in the attorney general's office in montana. then he was the chief deputy. then he got elected attorney general and very quickly he was
one of the best a.g.s, one of the leaders in the country because of his abilities, because of his idealism, because of the way he treated people. and then he ran for -- some people would say a higher office. i would say another office. he ran for governor and got elected and got reelected and as you know, probably by now this afternoon, trump carried montana by 20% two years ago. steve carried it by 4 and he did that because he was out talking with people, listening with people, working with people, bringing together his skills on the issues, his skill in heading in the right direction, an enormous political skills. he would not have done what he did without great political skills. so, i'm glad you had a chance to hear him. think a little about this guy and hopefully he'll be back to iowa a few times in the very near future.
you got to come back after that reaction, steve. >> i'll do it. thanks for shawn for the great leadership in the democratic party. best wishes to karin. she's working hard and she deserves to get elected. let's do all we condition to win in november. it's our chance. thanks for everything. >> so the governor said he would do a couple questions with us. usually you can holler out questions. c-span happened to be in the neighborhood like the governor happened to be in the neighborhood so we have a c-span microphone that nathan will be carrying around. do we have any questions for the governor? i see denies. -- denies.
>> hi, denise with the national association of social workers. >> hey, denise. >> what can we do to convince people that health care should not be a capitalist issue, it's an issue for everybody, health care with everybody and access. >> absolutely. >> i mean, i think first of all, that's where we need to begin, health care is not a privilege, it's a right. every other industrialized country has figured this out. i can look at the way we expanded medicaid and not only has it been good for the health of folks, man on street stories are only that, but when somebody comes up to you and says, your actions and your actions working with the legislature literally saved my life, i've had several of those, i know what it does for our overall economy, i know what it does going forward. begin from the baseline that
it's a right, not a privilege. recognize, let's not take 12 steps back. meaning that affordable care act, made strides in so many ways. what we have is an administration that wants to sabotage even the gains that have been made, to add more and more uncertainty so that people are dropping out. build off of that and say that there are any number of ways to make sure that health care becomes that right, no the a privilege, but let's not isolate one another as we're figuring out the best path. let's say that's our goal and figure out the way to get there together. because what we've now seen, what we have now seen for the good and bad of the affordable care act, was folks' lives have been improved as we expanded medicaid. and the last thing we want to do in montana, in iowa, or anywhere else in the country, start
taking major steps back. we have some momentum that we can build on. i think we should hold our elected officials and those run for office accountable but do it within the general parameters of here's our overall goal how we get there and we can all work together toward it. >> other questions for the governor? >> hi, so this is a little different than what we've talked about tonight, but knowing that you come from a state that voted for the president and you have oil resources in your state, as far as [ inaudible ] for the president, would you support building out energy infrastructure for natural gas and petroleum and also would you support doing that as well? >> for what? >> offshore developments or energy infrastructure? >> yeah.
i mean ooifr sai've said often as texas secedes from the nation we will have the best wind potential. we are a state where there has been both. i've put together under the clean power plant an energy blueprint that said where do we want to go as a state. i think we as a country need to say where do we want to go to recognize that this isn't just a moral obligation. i mean in montana we are outdoors folks. we have -- i mean i hunt, i fish, and i'm not sheunique in t way. we have 70,000 people who work in outdoor recreation. in some ways we're the best conservationists. we know when our waters -- i've had to close down rivers because they got too warm. our planting seasons are changing. it's something first of all we're not going to -- the u.s.
is not going to take a greater role abdicating our international role as we did walking back from the paris accords. to specifically wind and how would you put in -- there's parts of natural gas development, pipeline development, that is even far beyond the president's capability, but to continue to both work on the technology and the opportunities to move to a cleaner and greener energy, while recognizing i think in a lot of our lifetimes there still will be natural gas. things that we have to be both where we are and where we can go, but recognize that we can go a heck of a lot further. >> other questions for the governor.
>> i'm curious as to how you solve the [ inaudible ] and responsibility. >> how we solve or address the issues of gun ownership and the responsibilities that come through it. i'll tell you, i was -- so when the president suggested lower the flags, governors actually have the opportunity to right a proclamation and decide if we want to lower our flags as a result of either holidays or disasters. i will never forget after the vegas shooting, saying i don't even know what to write in this proclamation. and a young staffer says, oh, we now have a template for mass shootings. so i looked under both president obama and president trump i've been asked to lower the flags 43
times, that includes veterans days and other things like that. 12 of them have been for mass shootings. i approach it as a government, as a parent, i talked earlier how we share more values than we think we do, and i fundamentally believe that look, i took my 11-year-old son hunting, a time i will never forget, and a lot of folks too, that we have commonalty in as much as that most responsible gun owners want to keep their family and themselves safe, they don't always trust government's ability to do it. all of us that say this is working we want to keep ourself and the families safe, we don't trust the way the goose auns ar going to be able to do it. we take a public health approach to it.
a whole bunch of guns that get in the wrong hands because they're sold outside of background check systems. the vast, vast majority of americans want a universal background check system. it's time that we do that right now. five or six states have passed red flag laws, the idea that law enforcement, or a family member, can say this person is at risk, it's time to go to court and get the order to take that gun out of their hands. if five or six states we can do it, we know it makes a difference. we know that predominantly women, but people in domestic violence situations or where there's domestic issues, that their chances of losing their lives are so much more substantial where a gun is present. many states have said we can remove that gun at that point. we're not taking -- democrats don't want to take everybody's guns away, but we want to make
sure they're not in the wrong hands and not used wrongs. these clips there's no reason for these. any number of steps that we can take. but we have to also begin with the premise of let's figure out everything that we have in common and share because no parent wants to worry about their child at school. another thing, i don't know if any of you are educators, i do not want you having a gun. we had a discussion as part of national governors and vice chair, incoming chairman of the governors association and we had a fellow discussion with the president and they talked about what we need to do is harden our schools. i said, no, you harden military installations. what you do is everything possible to keep our kids safe in these schools. they shouldn't be having to think about that.
one more question. >> i would like a follow up question here. i'm a little hearing impaired. you may have covered this and i apologize if you have. i'm a former nra member. had my first bb gun when i was 7, single shot rifle 8, mail order m1 military when i was 14. but the position of the nra has gotten way out of hand. will democratic candidates have enough guts to refuse to accept donations from the nra so that they don't have such a broad say in congressional matters and the other thing, will the democrats do something to have a general public video made? i saw rick santorum appear and completely confuse everything speaking on behalf of the nra. the public needs to know there's a hell of a difference between an ar-15 and deer rifle and the shotgun and matters such as this. the average citizen has no understanding of what the different guns are.
i guess my big question, will the democrats have enough guts to say no to the nra contributions? that's important. >> i think that, you know, sometimes we learn a lot from our kids, and these kids in parkland have finally opened a discussion where it's time that we learn from our kids. so i think what unfortunateyou'g not only a whole lot of democrats saying i don't want that nra money but i'm hopeful republicans will say it. that's not what represents the responsible gun owners in this country. at times that represents the industry. let's continue to listen to those kids. we had a great rally, march for our lives, in helen in our state capital and they wanted me to speak. i said i'm not going to speak. and they said why. because it's about time elected officials start listening and
not speaking. so instead of doing that, i showed up with my kids and i applauded those kids to say, we could be doing a hell of a lot better here. thank you, again, for welcoming me in polk county. thanks so much for what you're going to do for karin derry and others. tom miller. thanks for taking the energy you have now for the next 214 days, so appreciate the opportunity to come out and be with you. thank you. >> before we leave please join me in thanking the staff and owners for doc's lounge. thank you for having us here tonight. it meant the world. i think the governor is going to stick around if you want to meet him. thanks for coming tonight. >> protect the workers rights, we talked about that in montana,
but sure, you bet. >> i -- >> sure. >> great speech. >> thank you. >> positive message. >> thank you very much. >> positive. >> we can. yes. take a picture. >> you bet. >> thank you. >> we will walk behind you, governor. >> sure, yeah. >> picture. >> you guys did some work here. >> in the center. >> thank you, though. karin. >> come here, miss johnson. >> karin, come here, come here. >> thank you. that was awesome. thank you so much, governor. >> you did a great job. >> who are we looking at? >> my phone right there, the
black one. >> came to iowa and made a great speech. >> you guys did it, though. i have no problem with that. >> great. thank you so much. >> thank you so much. >> thanks for running too. >> yeah. well -- >> no relation, i don't think. >> yeah. good. >> i was like -- >> my daughter -- our picture taken with you. >> i guess so. i agree with that. >> so i got to get -- that's
hey, nice to meet you. >> thank you. >> yeah, thank you. nice to meet you too. >> how are you? very proud mother. >> please. >> oh, very good. nice meeting you. >> thank you. >> you bet, absolutely. hey. >> hi, i'm ginger. >> ginger? nice meeting you. >> i want a picture with the next president. >> nice meeting you, ginger.
>> thank you. very good. yeah, thank you. >> hi, nina. >> this is my daughter liz. >> hey, liz. >> she's studying at oxford. i might be a little bit proud. >> really? what are you studying? >> government. >> we're northwestern. we lived in washington and wii been to montana insane amount of time. our friends are jeff and lesley. >> i know them well. >> they're our best friends. >> i haven't seen them in quite some time. >> they need to get more out there. >> are you enjoying oxford? >> i am. it's an intense environment but an amazing experience.
>> i worked for a member of parliament for a while when i was in college. >> my undergrad was in political science. >> what comes next? >> i'm doing the pmf program. >> prudential -- what is it? >> presidential management -- so if i don't get that, i'm looking to help a campaign. >> i may know someone. >> she's going to take a picture. >> oh, good. >> this is jeff's best friend. >> so where did you become friends with the weldens? >> at university. >> is that right? >> oh, you know jeff? >> i know jeff. i knew him even before they moved to billings, and then jeff was the lawyer for the school district in billings. and my stepdad was the superintendent of schools in billings.
>> okay. >> so there's all these different layers. >> jeff and i went to college together 35 years ago. >> that's great. >> yep. >> my eldest -- and i'm glad that it -- i'm not sure my 15-year-old daughter thinks i'm cool anymore. >> you know, my does again. >> i know, right? but she is one that turns around and says she's visited gonzaga for like a basketball camp. she's like, i just want to get outside of montana. that's what she sees right now. it's a neat place. >> it's a great school. >> actually, his sister is the president's wife of ghonzaga. >> your sister julie mccullough? really? we've met before. i'm chris gill.
[ inaudible ] >> is that right? it's a beautiful place. >> lot of energy. i appreciated your remarks. >> thank you for your remarks too. >> this whole thing, i believe in the second amendment, but it's gotten way out of hand. >> and there's a chance to change. >> probably what the supreme court says we can do. >> i'm helping her with all my heart. >> that's great. >> hey, i'm steve. >> jeff. >> i'm karen's husband. >> oh, fabulous. how are you liking this whole campaign stuff? >> so far it's been okay. it's a little different. >> it is different. >> but i think i'm handling it pretty well. >> it's funny because hopefully it will be a nice and decent
campaign. spouses take it a lot harder than even the candidate. >> so, yeah, no, i think we're -- she's really working hard. >> that's all it takes. i mean, it's one of those -- on the one hand, it's always on your mind. so no matter how many supporters you have, that it really takes just working hard and talking to people and getting out. >> good luck to you. >> great meeting you. >> thank you for everything. >> what is your plan? are you going to run for -- >> good seeing you. being part of the national conversation. who knows. 2020 is a long way away. i'm lucky to have the job that i have. >> you have my support if you
run. >> we met you back at the conference. >> we were in the same place. >> i was following you every step, right? >> good. well, you look familiar. >> i don't know how you keep up with it. it's gotta be impossible. we're going to talk to tom and see if there's a chance we can have a little discussion with you about the public service commission and where they're heading with renewables in general. >> sure. it's a hard commission. you know. >> i just want to get your input. >> there's a guy, adam schafer, in my office that -- actually give adam a shout, if you'll hold that. so adam's doing most of my work with the -- just say, hey, i was
talking to bullock, do you mind sitting down, he'd be happy to. if he could pull together some of the others. >> that would be great. thank you very much. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. good to see you. >> great seeing you too. >> good to hear you too. >> not a bad place. you're lucky you got out, because they got six inches of snow this morning in helena, my wife was saying. >> when i was driving over, i was at one of the hotels by the airport, but i had to put on the gps just to get to the airport because the snow was coming down so hard. >> who needs that. good seeing you guys. >> see, he's a lot more interesting than i am. hey. [ inaudible ]
>> well, thank you. >> we're just doing third district -- >> great, great. >> -- coming again. wonderful event. >> one of these days if i get back out, that would be great. >> we have 14 unions with us. quite active. it's quite unique -- [ inaudible ] >> you bet, you bet. >> shaun does a great job. >> shaun did a great job pulling this together too. thanks for the active engagement, because we need it, for sure. >> are you actively involved in the national dialogue? >> well, i have been traveling some and then as governor, you get involved in some of the national dialogue, for sure. >> the main things -- what do
you think of the deal that trump is proposing like -- [ inaudible ] -- something about immigration. do you think we should take it or -- >> i think, look, people that came to our country and have known no other country than this, it's not our values to speed negotiation on that. meaning that, you know, we're a country of immigrants. we're a country of families. we're a country of laws. if there are bad actors, we can use the legal system. but we shouldn't divine our values by -- [ inaudible ] i'm hopeful -- i haven't actually seen a meaningful proposal from the president on this. >> very conditional. so i was wondering, is that the best we can get? or -- >> who knows. because it changes every day.
>> true. >> most of the democrats and republicans, save for our doctor folks, let's quit playing games and give them the security and safety that they deserve. and hopefully we'll get there. but with this administration, it's always hard to know for sure. >> but even legal immigration, there are a lot of wait lists. >> oh, yeah. >> the legal immigration is a lot more difficult -- legal immigration is always an issue. [ inaudible ] i just saw as i was walking in -- spouses, president obama should let them work. now a new order is passed. all the work permits are gone now. >> we're better than this as a country. we'll get there. we have to. >> thank you. >> how are you?
>> good. thank you for coming out on a friday night too. >> glad to do it. >> what's your name? >> jeremy rosen. former director of the aclu office in iowa. >> right on. >> i don't know if you work with the folks of montana. >> we do. >> but i have good people out there. >> absolutely. really good folks. >> i'm curious, since you are another state that has certainly a legislature at least that's republican, have you done any work out there on -- [ inaudible ] >> even with that legislation, i should have noted it, we probably passed ten overall criminal justice reform measures last time to try to both give -- keep some offenders out and give them a chance, and also on the back end. and we have brought democrats and republicans to do it. just this last legislative session, so -- >> that's good to hear. >> yeah. and i think that there's -- and if you ever wanted, i could get
sent the packet of stuff that we got through, because more and more states hopefully are figuring this out. i mean, we're not going to incarcerate our ways out of that. >> ours is not necessarily figuring it out. we'll get there. >> they need to at some point. >> well, thank you very much. appreciate it. >> you too. >> governor, thanks for coming. >> you bet. i'm steve. >> i'm matt. >> good to meet you. >> thank you for coming to visit. >> thank you for coming out on a friday night. >> we're suburban democrats from the next one over. >> very good. >> i really appreciate what you said, that we need to give people a reason to vote for us and not just against somebody else. i think that was the biggest failing in 2016, she kept bashing trump and didn't give anybody a reason to vote for her. >> it's not enough. >> they have to like you, want to vote for you. you have to inspire people to get out and vote for you. >> and my point about our
values, i don't know what the economic message was. we are going to be fighting for you. we know that not everybody's coming up in this economy. >> no, i know. >> and we can get there. >> we have to. or we're never going to get anywhere. >> yeah. thanks for coming out. >> i'm speaking tomorrow to the college of young democrats. >> oh, good. >> i didn't know you were coming until our caucus. so i've had this on my calendar for a while. you're the right age for this. are you 49? >> getting old now, 51. getting real old. actually, 52 in a week or so. maybe one of my bios -- >> i'm 51. so you've got me by a few months. >> yeah. >> hey, a father and son came from lincoln, nebraska. >> yeah. >> great seeing you. >> get you in the middle.
you're the one that matters. >> how old are you? >> i'm 20. >> awesome. >> do you know jefferson dotson. >> claremont guy. >> he said he went to college with you. >> oh, yeah. >> his son's my best friend. he was going to come but he had an exam. he told me that his dad told me to tell you hi. >> next time you see him, tell him that, yeah, not only a friend, but tell jeffrey that, yeah, my 30th college reunion, that's when i sound old, it's coming up in two weeks. >> that's great. anything you need with nebraska, just let me know. i talked to your staffer about it, how omaha, whatever we can do to help you going forward. >> oh, thank you. >> so nice to meet you. will. >>. >> pleasure's mine for sure. >> people to take a photo. >> sure. yeah, i'm steve.
>> thank you. >> you bet. you bet. >> thank you. thank you. >> absolutely. hi, i'm steve. >> i went to school with rhonda randies. >> did you really? >> yeah. you met my sister today, she's the minority leader for the democrats in des moines. >> i'll be darned. where did you go to school? >> university of montana for one year. i went on exchange. >> is that right? >> yeah. it was a blast. >> so i just last saw rhonda -- >> at christmas. >> yeah, but it was funny because we had gotten together and things, but then i see her like at bed bath & beyond. >> no, she, i said, i'm going to see see steve, she said, tell him. >> she's a rock star. >> she is. >> 1985 graduate -- 1986 graduate of helena high school. another bengal. >> i'm an '86er too.
. >> this is my husband. >> i gotta talk to him a little bit. >> i backed him up on the joys of being a spouse. >> yes. because i said in some respects, it's harder to be the spouse than it is the candidate. because it's harder not to personalize and things like that, like with my wife and family. >> yeah. he's a great candidate's husband, you know. he knows what to say when asked why should i vote for your wife, what's the answer? >> she's the best person i know. >> that's a good answer. very good answer. >> i'm pat reinert, i run the main democratic site. >> very good.
>> i started during the 2015-2016 caucus. >> right on. >> this is what i cover. which is a lot of fun. but anyway, i had a couple of questions, but you answered a whole lot of them in your speech. the only other thing i wanted to touch on was your thoughts on trump's trade wars and how that's affecting a lot of rural voters both in iowa -- and i meant to check to see -- >> montana too. >> what's happening with it up there first? >> yeah, i mean, well, first, from a general perspective, like nafta, and montana's number one trading partner is canada. nafta hasn't been -- well, when it was put in, it was -- so on the one hand, there's no basis not to say we can always modernize trade relationships, but when you look at even what's happened here in iowa, when you think about what could happen to 6,000 hog farmers, you don't do
thoughtful trade by twitter. >> right. >> you sit down and you work with them. should there be things that we reform with china? theft of intellectual property, and yes. but this is a zero sum game when you just start escalating and escalating and escalating. so hopefully -- it struck me when i was in jasper county, talking to a few producers, where they're saying, do you know what this could do for my family if we don't solve this? this is becoming real. and i'm hopeful that the administration will take a breath and recognize what they're about to do to our farming. >> and the aspect of plenty of stories about farmers in iowa who are upset, who voted for trump and it's a bit of a betrayal. a lot of them are in a wait and see, but they're nervous. can you talk about how this might be somewhat of an opportunity to reach out to
folks -- >> well, i hope it's a wake-up call. first of all, we should be reaching out to them anyway. but folks who make their living off the land, thinking this guy would have been good for them, and now may not have markets, it's an opportunity for democrats. working folks that thought the swamp would be drained and he'd beighting for their interests. when you have a tax-cut package that will put the next generation a trillion and a half dollars in debt, and the wealthiest get the most benefit. this should be a wake-up call for them. there's so many different areas that i'm hopeful that folks will say, this isn't the country that we deserve. and we should look at 2020 a lot differently. >> and your initial trip to iowa, aside from what you just mentioned from the folks in jasper county, how was your trip? >> i had a great trip. as i mentioned about tom miller,
he's always been a hero of mine. so to be able to campaign with him and for him, one of the things that struck me, we were in ames, marshall town, is that, first of all, the concerns and the values aren't that much different than montana, or any rural and probably any urban areas. i think folks are fired up. so it's great to have conversations with people and to listen as they're looking at jasper county and voted for obama for both elections. and then i think president trump took it by 16 points. and we shared the belief that we gotta get out and talk to folks about what we're for. just being against him isn't enough. >> cool. appreciate it. >> great meeting you. >> great meeting you too. see you around.
>> hey. [ inaudible ] >> jackie norris. my husband john's running for before. i may not look like a future first lady, but i was at work. >> thanks for coming will ouout. >> absolutely. i loved the tail end. on fridays, i spend time -- [ inaudible ] but i really enjoyed it. >> thank you. best of luck with you guys. >> yeah, we're having fun. i mean, you have to. you have to like this job. >> you do. do you have kids? >> three. >> what ages? >> hunter and fuller are 14, sam is 12. >> twins, wow. >> they're great. i mean, they're good kids. you can't do this if you don't have really great kids who support you. >> yeah. i have a 15-year-old daughter,
13-year-old daughter, 11-year-old son. >> there you go. you speak my language. >> you're confident, number one. >> great meeting you too. best of luck. >> i'm sure we'll see you. >> yeah. >> always great to see you. >> can i get a picture to send to -- >> i would love that. >> she won't believe it. thank you. thank you very much. >> remind me your first name again. >> barb. i'm the only iowa friend she knows. >> one of my high school classmates she's real good friends with. >> nice to meet you. >> nice meeting you too. >> welcome to iowa. >> good to be here for sure. >> hey, how are you? >> nice to meet you. >> can i get a photo with you? wow, you are so tall.
>> no, you're good. >> thank you, thank you. >> thanks a lot. take care. >> are we gone? >> yeah. >> should we tell -- [ inaudible ] where'd shaun go? >> we'll holler. >> thank you again. >> you bet. you bet. >> this is great. keep it up. >> you too. the senate armed services committee holds a confirmation hearing for the president's nominees to be the next leaders of the u.s. pacific command, the u.s. northern command and the aerospace defense command. that's live here on tuesday morning at 9:30 a.m. on c-span3. c-span, where history unfolds daily. in 1979, c-span was created as a public service by