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and now with cnn. to both of you, thank you for being with us. a: 30 a.m.day at eastern we are live continuing our series, 1968, america and turmoil with a look at the vietnam war at home. it was fought not only in the jungles of vietnam put on american streets. acts ofmarches and civil disobedience dominated headlines. our guests are authored ed ,tanton and the filmmaker len next sunday here on american history tv. >> next, on the presidency. we hear about dolly madison's talents, and the working partnership she forged with her husband to create a sense of personal and political excitement during their white house years. the president and ceo of the foundation, she recalls dolly's life and time, and her political successes. the virginia museum of history and culture, and james madison's
montpelier hosted this event. it is 50 minutes. lecture is cosponsored by our friends at james madison's montpelier. with us to talk about the home's most famous female occupant is the president and ceo of montpelier and the montpelier foundation. to is the first of the women oversee all aspects of the historic site. under her leadership, montpelier has become research of slavery and early republican has grown and all most every way imaginable. it has been quite fun to watch at a distance. ,katre joining montpelier served a state director and before that, as vice president and chief operating officer for thomas jefferson foundation. she has also served as executive among many important
roles here in the state. she is truly one of the great starts in the museum community. we are so thrilled to cosponsor this lecture and have her to speak with all of you today. please join me in welcoming kat imhoff. [applause] kat: i really am thrilled to be here and i was joking that we do not have a lot of fans because if any of you could signal, and we will pause to hear what is going on as it is starting here. i have to start this evening with a quote from dolley madison. myself for youh for a while because i love richmond. there is so much soul, kindness in this enlightened society." this is from 1812.
there is so much said about dolly madison. [laughter] we remember her as the quintessential hostess, stunning first lady, and the heroic figure that helped rescue george washington's portrait. for over a century, after dolley madison, the username to sell everything. from that spreads to snack cakes. sorry. [laughter] ice cream, and they crystallized her image into this ideal woman, the opinion me of crisis -- gracious hospitality. i hope to prove to you that 's legacy in life was so much more than that. she shape the nation by using hospitality to achieve political and. she was loyal and devoted to her husband and was an invaluable support when he was congressman, secretary of state and advanced
his life into the presidency. thelieve she and james were original power couple. she also played a really critical role in shaping the protocol of that brand-new capital washington, d.c., and that is how we governed ourselves and our early days. she did it with a totally unique style. ,right, lively, charming, warm a good friend said of dolly. she was also very resourceful and true. myself. i get ahead of let's take a step back and answer the question, who was dolley before she help define the role of the first lady of the nation. what do we know about her? she considered herself a virginian. honestly, she was born in north carolina. in fact, this is her 250th birthday this year. her parents had moved from virginia to a quaker community
in north carolina where they lived for three years. thealways talked about brief visit to relatives. they did move back to virginia when she was one years old. i guess she gets that right. she had seven siblings that survived through adulthood but only three make it past their 20's. in 1783 her father's quaker sub conscious led him to the decision to free his slave. in virginiae legal in 1782. a majority of quakers freed their slaves and by 1784 you had to freed your slave in order to remain a quaker. her father did. looking for a way to support the family without having in slaved people,-- enslaved dolly's father moved them to philadelphia. it is the largest quaker community. makes an amazing impression got the very
beginning. here is a quote from laker anthony morris. i don't know what you think about quakers, but i think of them as and downed plane people. she came upon our cold hearts in philadelphia, suddenly and unexpectedly with all of the delightful influences of the summer sun. soon she raised the mercury and the monitors that part. the fever heat." [laughter] dolly made a different impression on the quaker ladies. they found fault with her capes and her down, probably because they were too worldly and stylish. dolley was never the most model of a quaker. as a child she treasured gifts that come from her grandmother's old fashion jewelry and she kept them in a little bag around her neck. the woods oneugh date the string broke and she lost all of the drollery. she talks about this being the first heart break in her young
childhood. after moving to philadelphia dolley of asher vs father started a laundry making business. he was not good at it. he found himself bankrupt. you cannot be in bankruptcy and remain a quicker. he was read out of the church he loved. this is the first blow to young life.olley's he went to bed and died in his bed three years later at the age of 52. reallyand her siblings felt the pinch of hard times. her mother had a better head for business, to the house and made it into a boarding house for congressman. this will play an important role later in dolley's life. father's deathbed, he really asked her to marry a john quaker lawyer named
todd, which she did. the couple had two children together. her life looked pretty bright. up-and-coming lawyer. we would probably never had .eard about dolley madison the yellow fever epidemic swept to philadelphia in the summer. it killed her husband and infant son on the same day. but obviously recovered. meets time dolley congressman james madison, she has already had a lot of grief in her life. as a young widow with a top there son, dolley started to a tract a fair share of interest in philadelphia. an acquaintance wrote about her, "her smile, her conversation, or manners are so engaging that it is no wonder that such a young widow, with her fine blue eyes and large share of animation, should be a queen of hearts."
i've got some props next. [laughter] she is a 26 her old widow -- 26 year old widow. he is a 46 her old bachelor. [laughter] kat: i cannot help myself. she is full up to us at five .oot eight on the surface they did not have much in common. in the years ahead their marriage is going to be a loving reunion at a political partnership that we have never seen the likes of. onison saw dolley -- dolley the streets of philadelphia when they were walking. they were colleagues from princeton. he asked erin bird to introduce him and that started it all. dolley sent a note to her dear friend eliza collins sleep.
the greatsays that little madison has asked him to bring him to see me this morning. that is how that started. progressed,ship another friend passed on this message to dolley from james madison. just a heads up, we are not any repressed victorian period. he told me i might say what i pleased about him. that hes so much of you has lost his tongue. at night he dreams of you and starts in his sleep and calling on you to relieve his flame. where he burns to such an excess that you will surely be consumed and he hopes your heart will be callous to every other but himself. he has consented to everything i have wrote about him with sparkling eyes. how could you refuse that, right? [laughter] kat: by the late summer she accepts his proposal and the
wedding a set. for the next two years dolley is the congressman's wife. with the inauguration of john adams as president, james madison and dolley retired to montpelier only to come back in 1801 and madison will be secretary and he becomes president. with her husband's return to has returned to washington, d.c., the city she will ultimately conquer. dolley's role as a political rise -- wife revolves around and maybehe used weaponize traditional female emotionalke intelligence, empathy to bring political adversaries together in social settings, and consequently to further her husband's career. this was very important because, if you think that to the earliest days of our nation, we were really brilliant and went
long gone constitutions. what an amazing document. on a more practical side of life, the city of washington was in its infancy and it was a muddy, swampy ramshackle of a place. in the absence of administrative channels to get things done, social gatherings were aware you to get the working get people together to make things happen. politics were fraught with conflicts in this time. so much was at stake in treading this new course of this nation. so much so that there were fist caps on the floor of congress and people would go out and fight duels. it is a little bit better today. with the french revolution, with its very radical democratic deeply had very polarized the federalists and the republicans. there was not much of meeting of minds.
when dolley starts holding there are these welcoming mutual spaces where political differences can kind of be addressed and pageants and beliefs can be expressed without any loss of dignity. there wass face it, not much else to do in washington, d.c. as the wife of the secretary of state, she already begun setting a tone for socializing and washington under jefferson's administration. jefferson is a widower, but even if his wife had been alive to services hostess, he still strongly disapproved of lavish receptions, dinners and balls. women he thought of as both unpredictable and a corrupting influence. [laughter] is, theyfinal thing like to control the political
discourse. one night he might have all the federalist over and the other night you would have the republicans over. he would never mix things up. meanwhile dolley is a practical realist. she is trying to make this theory of virtue serving the republic actually work. rather than fighting peoples natural social tendencies, she is busy working with them. she brings people of different opinions together. she includes women because rather than seeing women as unprotected -- as unpredictable, she thought they could be important and a civilizing force. men would be forced to be more polite. tempers would become an better discussion would in soup. seeexample that we could play out, many of you may know about this, it was called the merry affair. gotdent jefferson, when he an office decided to create a new style, which he called pelter skelter --
skelter. we wanted ourat protocol to be. no one had protocol. great letter the madison writes to jefferson about the subject. madison says we are in a wilderness without a single footstep to guide us. our successors will have an easier task and it will become smooth, short and certain. i love this quote because jefferson did exactly the opposite. smooth at the beginning. anthonyt incident, arrives from washington and he is a representative of great britain. jefferson meets mary for the first time. jefferson is dressed in his bathrobe and slippers. jefferson decides i will host a welcoming dinner. since the merry set a guest of honors for this dinner,
elizabeth mary would have been expected to be taken into dinner first by the highest ranking man, which would be president jefferson, then her husband, ambassador mary would take the second raking member which would've been dolley. he grabs dolley's arm to escort her in the room. he saysief friend if take mrs. mary, he ignores the advice and james madison escorts elizabeth mary and have the ambassador walks and without anybody on his arm. we think it is humorous, but it was scandalous. it was interesting and was in the papers all over europe. and an told a dinner similar thing happens. ambassador mary began only gathering a few and did not take his wife. he encouraged all the other foreign ministers to follow his
examples, meaning that there would be very few opportunities for diplomacy to go for it four american politicians to get to know one another. it was not a good situation. herself,ok it upon really mended fences with mrs. mary, became her best friend, even though i don't know that she particularly liked her, and dolley may have felt that things have gotten way out of hand because jefferson's opponents took him to task, not only for his role in what was called the merry affair, that they also started fabricating stories that jefferson had had an affair with dolley, or was pimping dolley out to the diplomatic corps. [laughter] kat: seriously. ofley's understanding diplomacy went much deeper than mending fences. her approach of mending feminine behavior be a claim to be left interest into politics and she actually was. when she was in philadelphia for medical treatment, which was a
very rare time she was separated from james, they were almost always in each other's back pockets. she wrote him a letter inquiring, "some information respecting the war with spain and disagreements with england, as it is generally expected here , but i amn a loss extremely anxious to hear on the subject. i believe you would not to say your wife to be the active "artisan, but,... for what itize it was. he replies the potential for war that respect did her intelligence and close with a statement of the parlay line that dolley could safely repeat. this is from james. the power of deciding questions of war lies with congress and that is our answer to news mongers.
wives and mothers, women from every socials fear stable willie -- really well-informed during that time. many ladies of washington, including mrs. madison went to the galleries in congress and when to listen to the supreme court. always remained above the political fray. she often quoted her formula for the nonpartisan simulate saying "i do not admire the contentions of parties political or civil. i would rather fight with my hand in my tongue." the white house is not the only practicingolley politics. she and her sister would host sometimes at the white house when president jefferson had women in the company. dolley's entertaining even more at the madison home and it is the new power hub.
the report about the situation. after the president house, the house of the secretary of state was the resort of most company, even party spirit, maryland by by gentleness was disarmed the asperity. individuals who never visited the president or met any other minister houses could not resist the softening influence of her disposition. hospitality had a couple of purposes. she is creating this socials sphere were- political opponents could react. she is beginning to smooth the path for her husband to succeed jefferson. madison never like to campaign for himself and it was considered very unseemly to do that kind of campaigning. could skills of dolley put him far and i had. congressman mitchell wrote to was afe that dolley secret weapon in the election of 1808. she contracted -- contacted
james madison who said makes dinners and generous displays with another democratic whoblican, george clinton keeps aloof from captivating exhibitions. the secretary of state has pretensions and clinton has nothing. the other great quote of that race was when the federalist candidate lost to james madison, he said, i was be in by mr. and mrs. madison. chance've had a better colleges face mr. madison alone. [laughter] 1809,inally in march of dolley find yourself centerstage as wife of the president. she knew how to put her skills and sociability to use in all these causes. she also knew what it was like to face unwarranted criticism simply for being in the public eye.
now it is time for her to put these lessons to good work. all she did with the amazing, unique style. style was very important to this young nation. what we had done was unprecedented in the world. we set up this republic protecting the natural life of the citizens. we have this entirely new way of working together as a political in a world where most power was held by very few people. how we did things would define how we would -- how we would become. every government needs some type of protocol to function. the only model that we were familiar with was the european courts. we needed a new american way of how to be. got that. she understood that personal attire is actually a political message. if it is done right it can be a very powerful one. after james was elected president she knew she needed to wear close that had grandeur but
not too much. you have to hit that balance. it is still a republic, see have to be elegant but acknowledge that we are a government based on merit and ability. -- she chose the emperor style. she also struck the right nose with her husband's attire. american laced will. -- wool. she dressed with simplicity. at the very first inaugural ball, she chose to wear american pearls over the more aristocratic diamonds that were not from america. it was impossible to please hadyone in -- and dolley her fashion critics. one said that the madison family does not might dolley.
they do not like her note -- her low neckline and short sleeves and her gay life in washington society. callingre mock dolley her clean dollah la la. her attire was frequently described by the fashion maidens betoday and sought to imitated by many. she was considered america's republican clean. neither too regal nor to comment. let's face it, dolley could be the focus one. james madison wore a little black suit and he was knowing you the charismatic figure, which was frankly feared in the republic. people did not want someone to become the king. it was ok for him to be mild-mannered. she could also make madison more popular by being that larry y presence. glitter
really needed to decorate the white house because, up to this point, the adams had been there and it was unfinished. abigail adams hung her laundry on what we now call the east room. thomas jefferson had made architectural improvements to the mansion, that he furnished it with belongings from monticello when he took those. $20,000 did appropriate and madison elected benjamin to supervise the work. theres a time when mostly is household furnishings. the choice to delegate this to dolley. she said it will be a symbol of the presidency and the federal government. she decided to choose objects that would be classical with simplicity, but still be able to stand the test against european fashionable elegance.
new classical style is more than just a fashion statement, it is reflecting the values of the new republic that honoring the aid ship republican idea of civic virtue. look, we'reaying, just a sophisticated as old europe, and we don't have to put up with the monarchy. built on the purchase before. with washington and adams, it was pretty cool that you would meet them and you would bow to them and they would bow to you and you would move on. she invited everybody. she avoided giving anybody a sense because she treated everyone the same. it was also unusual at that time
for the will -- the woman to sit at the head of the table. any eventld pull off seamlessly and madison could sit in the center of the table and she was able to direct the conversation around him. at one point, vice president gary elkridge tied to sit at the head of the table, and she very firmly put him in his place. afterwards you wrote his daughter saying, it would have been impossible for me to equal her in this instance, she did everything with such elegance ease. i did imagine that was an awkward moment. knew what her husband's goals and difficulties were and she could hone the conversation about where he wanted to go. he also said he could get more done at the table at the house than he could in the office all day. redecoratedte house establish aeady to
new form. these were the drawing rooms. martha jefferson had had very formal events for ladies only, where each woman came in with their ceremonial presented. thomas jefferson only ever had to public receptions a year. thought one was too formal and the other not enough. she started greeting guests every wednesday evening in the white house anytime congress was in session. people would wander in, they would be greeted by the medicines, then they would roam around the worms and have wine and food and other things to drink -- around the room and they would have wine and food and other things to drink and they would perform music. orsts would be 300 people more and they would squeeze into the white house. with a few noticeable -- notable
exceptions, almost everyone enjoyed the drawing room. the point was that absolutely everyone was welcomed. whether they were members of madison democratic republican party, or they were the federalist party, whether a foreign dignitary or a local citizen. was in her element creating a social sphere where people could interact socially. very subtly building support for her husband's administration. dolley created the impression that she was above the fray of politics. she writes about it a lot. in reality, she understood exactly where everyone stood in relationship to her husband. in a letter she wrote to her anothershe also wrote letter, she is noted that during the election of 1812, the federalists had refused to, or dying. there were so may people flocking to the white house that there was such a rallying of
parties that it alarmed them into a return. i love that. could also act as her husband surrogate. when the new young warhol about the war andenrywe are tag medicine is still on the fence, the war of 1812, dolly found an apolitical way to bond with clay. tothis case, they both like do snuff. it is said that her snuffbox had a magic influence. dolly forrest political connections to support her -- her's agenda, people friends asked her to wield influence with her sons, husband, neighbors, relatives, anyone looking for a government job. she was a go to gal for
political patronage. one interesting one is that abigail adams, who never liked dolly, never met dolly, still rights dolly to help get her grandson a diplomatic mission. and dolly gets it done. that's pretty amazing. the war of 1812, it is funny to say that someone really shines in a war. but it was such an unpopular war and dolly was so wildly popular that many historians give her a fair bit of credit for madison's second term in office. the war of 1812 created an amazing opportunity for the people of the nation to truly take dolly to their hearts. it earned her. a place in our american legend. she became the brave safe of the nature. -- the nation. she issocial events, this symbol of calm optimism and
support. she is celebrating the victories. she is receiving colors of captured ships and battles won. she's telegraphing to the public that this is what happens. this is what it means for us as a nation in a way that sustains support for the war effort. and her letters during this time are amazing, filled with spirit. writing one of her cousins, as they are beginning to put up tents on the lawn of the white house, "already looks well to my eye for high have been an advocate for fighting, though a quaker. i keep an old tunisian saber within my reach." she literally slept with a sword underneath her bed. among rumors that cochran had threatened to set fire to the president's house, she said "i do not fear at this. the admiral should send a notice
that he should make battle in my drying room soon." dolly reported that her husband had asked her whether i had the courage or firmness to remain in the president's house until his return, and on my assurance that and our fear for him country, he left me. dolly's drawing room evenings and her strategic approach, probably- approach are her most significant contribution. for one moment in time in the white house, it eclipses all others. it is the rescue of george washington's portrait when the british were invading washington in 1814. as dolly told the story to her sister lucy, she remained at the white house waiting for james to return from the battle of women start where the militia are not
successful at keeping the british out of d.c.. she is busy directing servants to fill a wagon with valuables of the white house. we focus so much on the washington portrait. blood she saved the cabinet papers and medicines papers -- but she saved the cabinet papers and madison's papers. we know some much about the founding period because the papers were not burned in the white house. dolly does order that general washington's torture be saved and not be left to be -- washington's portrait be saved and not be left to be vandalized. was taken and rolled up and she puts in safekeeping. then and only then do she agree to evacuate. and partly didologized at the time
then and now earned the gratitude and admiration of a country. in the months that followed the burning of the white house in d.c., dolly shared her loss with someone who truly appreciated the beautifully appointed rooms that she helped create. that was her old friend and decorating partner mary latrobe, wife to benjamin latrobe. two hourss to her, " before the enemy entered the city, i left the house where mr. latrobe's elegant taste had been justly admired. and where you and i had so often wandered together. and on that very day, i sent out all the silver, the curtains and general washington's picture and a small clock and a few books and left everything else belonging to the public, valuable stores a fiction and my clothes, all the servants' close, etc., etc.. fit to you toould
read the list of my losses. it was a sad moment. ofthe wake of burning washington's public building, there was a lot of talk that the capital might relocate to another city. philadelphia and new york one of the capital back. really led the rallying cry for washington, d.c., that she really ugly reestablished a social convening . by the fall of 1814, she is already in the drawing rooms now the octagon house, which is their temporary residence. she is the one who announce his that the treaty of ghent has been signed and signals the end of mr. madison's war. today, we expect a first lady to champion particular causes. but that was not an expectation in dolly's time. in fact, the idea of women
organizing to create change was novel. again, dolly is a trendsetter. when she is wife of the secretary of state, she is interested in the expedition. she knows they are not adequately provision. she gets all the ladies of the cabinet together, money together to help out your this is very sad for her. she thinks it will never come back. when they do, she is overjoyed and they bring her cookware to share with her and let her have and, more importantly, she shares these wonderful stories and her nieces talk about it later in her life. orphan saleoned the in society. d.c. is very much in the aftermath of the war very it is a very -- war. it is a very desperate place. she becomes the first or actress of the sale society -- the first
ress of the sale of society. these seem trivial and small to us, but this effort is historically significant. it shows are actively involved in this broader 19th-century spirit of reform, where women are beginning to organize themselves to create institutions to help other women and girls. madisonhe administration comes to an end 1817. james madison come after his second term, he could not have been happier. a friend described him a school board on a long vacation. very happy to be going home to montpellier. dolly on the other hand is more reluctant. right before they leave d.c., they have their portraits painted. and in this portrait, dolly gets a desk is a copy to a friend.
as a good friend, she knows dolly's portrait is kind of an absence of expression in her i. it doesn't have that sparkle. dolly just meant 16 years in d.c., exerting tremendous influence it would be very hard for her to leave her friends can retire to the sleepy countryside of orange, virginia. follow james back. she continued to be a hostess at mock nba europe many people flocked to montpellier because james madison stayed literally involved in politics to the day he died. withontpellier was filled visitors during that time. international visitors like the marquis lafayette.
dolly might entertain a hundred people in the back lawn and think nothing of having 30 people stay night after night after night. visitors reported seeing dolly madison giving james madison a piggyback ride. [laughter] then there was poly that parent who would scoop through the hallways, swearing and friends, and terrorizing the young madison clan. you could tell that it was this lively, lively country place. while dolly clearly mr. d.c., she had her hands full and took on decorating month gave -- clearly missed d.c., she had her hands full and took on month.ing -- decorating my
police are -- in his 30's, he never settled in his life. he was called by some the snake in the garden of eden. which is a sad thing to say. he had bouts of drinking and gambling. we know he did help madison because we see his handwriting and transcribed notes. that he did have huge binges. onewould disappear and no would know where he would be for months, oftentimes in debtor's prison. hero in his journal, "i could never temper things properly." there is a lot of anxiety around him. james paid a lot of his that, about $20,000. there was another amount that he pay for that he never told dolly. this added up to more than a million dollars in terms of current numbers.
payne ororrying about managing these guests and family members, dolly had another big job. that was caretaker and secretary for james madison. she was really at his side every step of the way, editing and copying papers which were very important to madison, and part because she really -- he really helped it would help dolly pay for debt, which they were deeply in. 28,adison dies on june 1836, and dolly is devastated. in his will, he entrusts his papers to his dear wife, having entire confidence in her discreet and properties of them. put a special emphasis on the news of the best the notes of the cost attentional -- convention.tional
he made in his will a very big emphasis that everything should be under her authority and discretion. and dolly took to heart this role of literary agent as a deer in sacred trust. she writes about it in every letter, especially the year after madison dies. however, it is not an easy task. one, they are hoping there will be -- there will be a lot of money. but publishing was a mess and dolly was not set up to negotiate a papers published. she may be offended people by asking for too much money. she got bad advice. worst of all, she commissioned her son to help to some of the negotiations. rodef her friends confidentially to another, if you were acquainted to him, you need not be told that he is the last man to conduct this business. henry clay steps in and helps congress by the papers. it assures dolly some money at the end of her life.
and fact, they put the second payment in a trust so that payne can't have access to the funds. at the end of the day, dolly help her husband in so many ways. but i am internally best internally grateful for -- but i am eternally grateful for all of her work on his correspondence. dolly did move back to washington in 1844. she left my police are -- pelliereer -- mont behind. she is back in the thick of things and back in the city that she loved. on dies in her sleep in -- july 12, 1849. her funeral procession was the largest ever seen in washington up to that point. there were marines carrying her casket. there were 48 horse-drawn carriages taking her to congressional cemetery.
and thousands and thousands of people lined the streets and the bills all tolled. so what is dolly madison's legacy? she was her husband's archivist. she was a fierce protector of his legacy through his papers and also by the publication. legacy is herer engagement in these political events, despite being in a time when women were not expected to do anything outside the house. she spent her long marriage to madison really engaged in deep political thinking and work. she also brought these political lives to the galleries of congress and the supreme court. and she was even, after madison's death, acknowledged for her role and given an honorary seat in the house of representatives. and shelate one day made them go back and read what she had missed. [laughter] can you imagine that? olly was also given the
invitation to lay the first cornerstone of the washington monument. she lived long enough to be photographed. amazing span of life. more than anything else, she really created this new kind of social protocol, setting a place where people could be together, find common ground, find ways to compromise, all in her unique style. she was a facilitator par excellence. she was the queen of society. and in her latter years, pay no less commentator than daniel webster said of her -- she is the only permanent power in washington. all others are transients. [laughter] soon after dolly madison dies, and obituary notices as mistress, of the white house, she was regarded as the first lady of the land. this is one of the earliest instances where we hear that term, first lady, used as the title for the president's wife.
and how fitting that the term should be applied to dolly, who was the first president's wife to fully embrace the social and political inventions of the first lady role. henry clay may have described her best. everybody loves mrs. madison. and she replied, mr. clay, i love everybody. [laughter] and everybody believed that. and dolly madison had done her job well. thank you. [applause] i have to take a little survey. i have a couple of pictures of montpelier? who has been there in the last year? not bad, thank you. i just wanted to remind folks we do have 2700 acres. they are filled with walking trails and buildings, everything temple toouse and the
jim crow train station to temple. we have eight miles of trails if you are a dog friendly, bring your dog and walk on it. forest.an old-growth if you have not been in the house for a while, you will be really surprised. this is madison's bedroom. we added a lot of the carpet. this might be the biggest restoration of the house is the initial restoration. this is the entrance hall where we put up 34 oil paintings, which madison had. and again, that lightly carpet. if you did not notice, monica -- montpeli tellier a substantial archive. i would be remiss if i didn't note that, in june, we launched a permanent new exhibition
called a mere distinction of color. it tells the story of the 300 people who were enslaved at montpelier and made it possible. it is hardly unique because of the work with the slaves community and what it means to us today as americans. we also run the robert h smith center for the constitution. we teach teachers and international people. we have had 60,000 folks through the program, from 110 countries and all 50 states. we also do public programming for citizens like you and me. if you're interested in the constitution and what it means to all of us today, i hope you will look at the website. finally, since spring is almost upon us, i hope we can lure you there for the history and all of our shared american dna, but also to come smell the flowers. with that, i have all of five
minutes and would be happy to take a few questions. we do have a mic. enjoy the magazine. i'm doing my moment here. [laughter] >> thank you so much for today. fevers exposure to yellow , did that leave her sterile? is that why she and james did have children? or was payne enough for birth control? [laughter] isprobably the fault, if it the right word, james madison, as far as we know, never had any children. he didn't have with dolly or anybody else that we know of. so the yellow fever may have been the cause. i beg you to read the letters of money -- holly madison. they are quite frisky. . i didn't have enough time to read parts of them.
in some of the letters, when james and dolly are not with one another, i have no fear that they had a lovely time with one another. [laughter] >> thanks so much. did she ever say anything about what allowed her to live such a long life? any comments about that? >> no. i think it is amazing. if you soon arrived child for -- childbirth, your odds went greatly up. dolly's mother and grandmother lived to be in the 90's. these are amazing women of that frontier period. -- madison'smother grandfather was poisoned. his grandmother never remarried and ran that plantation. i like the fact about his grandmother and mother were very strong figures. i don't think it intimidated him at all to make this beautiful
black-haired, blue-eyed, 5'8", forceful woman. thank you so much. >> thank you all. [applause] >> tower nine-week series, 1968, america in turmoil is available as a podcast. this is american history tv only on c-span 3. monday morning, we are live in denver, colorado for the next stop on the c-span bus 50
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