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american history tv is in prime time. we will show you coverage of the white house historical with discussion on presidents and speaking-- and several scholars. a former executive pastry chef is all tonight at 8:00 eastern. >> we will have live coverage as the former white house press secretary is joining a discussion with current correspondence and presidential historian. andrew jackson, thomas jefferson, and franklin roosevelt. coverage from the conference with representatives from sites across the country will get underway wednesday morning at 9:00 eastern.
much of the white house design has roots. lydia tederick was joined by rufus bird to talk about design similarities. it was part of a daylong symposium hosted by the white house historical association. >> i'm dr. curtis sandberg at the national center for white house history and we spent the morning considering 200 years we have examined the role of scottish stonemasons and have seen the roads emerging back there. is now time to address decorative arts and we are incredibly fortunate to have 2.
we have rufus bird who is the surveyor of queens works of art. the royal collection trust has lots of things but it looks after the royal collection which is, frankly, on the website one of the most important art collections on earth. rufus will place the fine art connections and we've had lydia tederick, the white house curator on the phone he's going to evaluate fine arts connections and place it in a larger connective and will be honoring other guests. since 1979 she has lectured far and wide and published articles on the collection and is a
valued partner of the white house historical association. she will build on the talk by building on specific examples. >> thank you very much. it's a great privilege and pressure-- pleasure to be speaking about this remarkably broad subject as curtis suggested. we will be talking about the american side of things but it cannot be denied that at precisely this moment, nothing speaks stronger of that relationship so eloquently alluded to by those two speakers. a young couple tying the knot
having conducted a trans- atlantic relationship. we are very excited about this alliance, soon to be cemented. what i want to do in the next 30 minutes or so is take you on a journey through centuries of the evolution of design and trying to divide up the beast by choosing different media. different decorative themes, and fashions. not always mentioned is the importance of architecture which is a great theme from the morning. architecture provided the backdrop and in many examples, the stage set. the great works of art to shine and great people to perform to that public. this is especially true of palace architecture. our famous-- our story starts
with the 18th-century and referred to, powerful landowners built their new and large country mansion in a classical style. supporters of the political faction of handing the british crown and its successes of the hanover. the point is, this classical style was to be repurposed, protestant, and english. it was a national style derived from italian sources and ideals of the public of rome.
this is published in several volumes and the title was taken from the name the off-- the author. early designs from the white house to designs for british country houses published in the 18th-century. some furnish their enormous and bleak mansions from london's best makers. one of the best names was thomas chippendale celebrating his bicentennial birth and he's one of the few british cabinet makers that people have actually heard of. but his name was made on account of his skill and his book of printed design of
cabinet makers . it proved incredibly popular and went through three different additions in all parts of the country. they were copied in america soon after printing. his best furniture was made slightly later in the 60s and 70s and this design will reflect the exuberance of the 18th century, known as the modern style. >> the workshop was large. about 100 craftsmen work there. the meals of production was a turning point and one of the most clever to realize its potential was matthew bolton
who captured the latest fashions in decorative arts and produced candelabras, silver, and other things in the most efficient way possible. by replicating elements of the design and assembling them ensuring novelty and great efficiency. he applied new mechanization technology and can be seen as the father of the luxury car manufacturer. in the 1770s, europe was grip by the mania that-- classical design which derived from archaeological discoveries made in italy and can be seen as essential element of the design promoting its function. through the 18th-century while
the trades of furniture and metal making carry on much of what they have done forever, it was in the field of ceramics. transformations were brought to the end of the 18th century. the creation of imitation china where. many were made using porcelain with almost the same purity as the impeccable lustrous pieces imported by china but able to be made cheaply and locally and also in great quantity. also, in deluxe format. the natural deposits and waterways made it the ceramic heart of the country. his famous was so fashionable and influential. using a solid
color as a contrasting back ground to the marble like figures, it was able to show his taste for the classical and sophistication. one of the most famous-- of famous objects in the upper left, a roman vase belonging to the duke of portland and one of the best named roman antiquities. he reproduced it in 1790. i keep pressing the wrong button. now i'm getting ahead. after the turn-of-the-century, the roman or greek antiquity involved into a mania.
egypt was being explored and uncovered and engravings made about people. data published in 1882 proved to be enormously influential. approximately one year between 1802 and 1803. the publication succeeded and read. soon enough, interiors are being commissioned. the dining room which you cannot see particularly well in the upper right corner. imitation marble walls and matching egyptian candelabra designed precisely this time. >> one of the best known
interior decorating it was a sign of the wealthy banking family and truck-- have it traveled mush-- and combined roman greek and egyptian as well as other influences. no publisher will take on the risk of producing it in color but they were described in some detail. it recorded his own and intensely decorated houses. the newly fashionable part of london, this is the star which many referred to as regency. he did not at that the fashionable star. george prince of wales and from 1820 to 1830
was an extraordinary man who defined categorization. he adored historians for the passion and genius. he looked forward and backwards and was a builder of magnificent and fantastical palaces. here, he had bought a classical villa at the end of the 18th-century and over the next 25 years transformed the interiors into a bizarre and spectacular asian inspired fantasy. how does this work? there we are. the chinese and indian inspired interiors a rather outdated
term that asked lanes the 19th- century creations which respond to asian works of art. specifically the export to europe. they moved on to a new british actual start perhaps in the wake of napoleon, a wave of patriotism and revival of the medieval gothic style. a new interpretation was-- enthusiastically taken up. in the 1840s designing the houses of parliament. after the fire of 1834 destroyed the old
medieval building. the campaign found its expression in his book which as the name suggests, contracted the gothic style with the comparison-- with the recent and classical style. on this image which i hope you can just about make out, the imagined a town built on the-- i'm sorry, the upper image. the image below was built on gothic or more broadly, medieval principles. notice the industrial warehouses , the deeply forbidden-- forbidding prison. a chapel has been added but everywhere else the industry and profit are being seen. in the lower image it is the cathedral spires that dominate. in his case the roman catholic
church. god and community hold the upper hand. the classical style can be said to have something like a political dimension and throughout much of the century held the power of britain. the notion against technological advances of the industrial revolution, we see a powerful dimension. these ideas found their way into furniture design and decorative arts. there was no distinction between architecture and its content. he saw them as part of a seamless hold with the ideas underpinned and which provided a counter plus to the apocalyptic visions of industry commerce and suppression. it still informed education and appreciation but based on the primacy of naturalists-- naturalness, divinely inspired
nature. his didacticism was appreciated in, the greatest thing that a human being ever does is to see something and to tell what it saw in a plain way. the single most important events was the great exhibition. the great exhibition of the works of industry of all nations which combines a bewildering a way of works of art of industry of all parts of the globe. under 7000 displays the british imperial of international production. it was conceived by prince albert.
it led to the establishment of the various museums and colleges plastered together today and of course including the victorian art museum.. important exhibitions continue such as the international expo and the world trade fairs. product awareness across borders in the philadelphia exhibition in 876-- 1876 was incredible for this country. prince albert as a prime mover actively encouraged manufacturers and several firms
with commissions of the display, for their displays which in 1840 was the first for the technique of electric plating which is electrolysis. it is silver applied to base metal. before this very public and international display of ernest industry a welsh architect traveled to provide a new language, the language of architecture for this new industrial age. he published in 1856 and in the spirit of the great exhibition, he took a cosmopolitan approach
and his travels took him to grenada and also egypt as well as istanbul. in these three places he came under the spell of islamic architecture. it emerged on the british market which was defined by openness, curiosity, and emulation of other continents. he designed the exterior of the crystal palace in hyde park which housed the greater exhibition. one of his assistants was a scientist who had started a career in botany and returned to design and published on ornamental design. he is best known for his designs for ceramics and for carpets, and metalwork. it is central to the
study of the evolution of british decorative art of the 19th century. he was able to impose a rigid system and to incorporate elements from different continents, in particular japan which created a distinctive design. his designs for elkington's reflect the survivalist themes that dominated the taurean design, many of which were captured in indian and oriental. he was well known as a designer and equally admired in the usa. she traveled to chicago and his household with centers in chicago along the eastern seaboard. the demand for modern design
was here to stay. decorative arts mania has simmered down to actual work and it is time to stop calling it mania at all. the pragmatism was addressed by ideas with craftsman architecture and design. his firm is called the folkman and company with a mission to reform what he considered to be a degraded current state of decorative art. it is often not realized that a portion of the decorative arts were furnished at this time.
the second half of the 20th century. certainly william morris would feature heavily in curricular of decorative arts courses. rule commissions are little studied. that may be to either the lack of importance attached to royal interiors generally. whatever the case the accommodation of the head of state of what was then the most powerful nation in the world. this is especially true in the case of queen victoria and prince albert. they found an inventive designer. grantor was from trenton.
by the time edward vii exceeded , both interiors were hopelessly out of date. a source of louis xvi revealed a bizarre style. here i think you can see a stark contrast. it's more or less as it looks today on the right. the palace interiors have changed very little since the 20th century. mention must be made of cranberry. a curator, she was intensely interested in the decorative
there rooms were decorated in authentic regency colors. some of which have belonged to thomas himself. like other revivalist stars the regency revival was popular in the u.s. while england toyed, relations in the u.s. have -- by 1930 the u.s. had experienced several stages of regency revivals. interiors of london are best seen in the sparse empty rooms of clarence house. from 1948 until 1952. the lack of craftsmen and materials in london.
informed the presentation of the royal interiors of the edge of the throne. after princess elizabeth succession in 1952 clarence house became the home. of the queen mother. britain's emergence from postwar in the 1950s is often symbolized by the festival of britain. the bombed outside on the south bank was identified as the focal point. celebrating britain's past. i'm looking to a new future. it introduced color into a bleak gray cityscape.
it was a new dawn for enjoying life in modern terms with modern technology. this exposure to temporary culture coincided with a stylish look to the nation's past. probably not similar to the opening ceremony in london in 2012. to consider the place of british arts in relation to the united states. this reflects the political colonial relationship. in the 19th century and reflects the embracing of commercial enterprising. the 20th century is harder to pin down. commercial links are in different. the percolation of stars went hand-in-hand. the final thought, it will be interesting to see what stars harry and meghan come up with.
thank you. >> following that please join us in welcoming the curator of the white house, lydia tederic . thank you for having me today. when designing my talk i was asked not to focus solely on the objects themselves. but why they are in our collection. i am not able to show you everything. in fact i don't think i'm able to show you anything.
i'm not able to show you everything associated with the united kingdom and ireland. only a few selections. to learn more about these and other objects in our collection i encourage you to see some of our major publications. written by my predecessors. betty monkman and bill altman. they are both here today. mainly the white house and its historic furnishings and first families. an official white house china as well as art in the white house, a nation's pride. written by william cloth. all published by the white house historical association. with the objects featured today you will see nearly all were gifts to the white house. some examples or gestures of goodwill, tokens of friendship while others were presented to enhance the historic furnishings so that only the finest objects would be found in the home of the president of united states. what a better place to begin then with the desk made by the timbers. the resolute is part
of an expedition formed in 1852. to search for the explorer search on franklin. sir john franklin had set out in 1845 in search of the northwest passage. by july of that year he had disappeared. in the meantime other expeditions were formed. this one consisted of five vessels. including the resolute. it was constructed, especially for arctic service. the bal was used to help cut through the ice. it was the -- under the command of captain henry kollek. it was trapped in the ice in 1854. they had spent two winters in the arctic. their supplies were running low and expedition commander decided it was time to abandon the icebound vessel. under protest and with some ceremony the resolute was
abandoned on may 15, 1854. in the ice of melville sound south of cornwallis island. in september 1855 she was found by an american will ship. the george henry. in command of james budding 10. she had drifted nearly 1100 miles away from where she have been left. captain budding 10 new at the resolute that the expedition and the abandonment and thought safe delivery of this ship it to some port could be profitable. first they had to prepare her to sail. she was listing badly to her portside. she had ice attached. and it took several weeks to pop out the water in resume an even keel. captain buddington divided his crew between the two ships. departed in october. their trip home was very challenging. the resolute was missing her top mask. she was poorly rigged and they
repeatedly ran into bad weather. finally arrived in new london connecticut on christmas eve in 1855. the suggestion to reach the ship and return it to england came from a wealthy philanthropist henry grenell. he had financed an earlier expedition in search of sir john franklin. that bill was introduced in congress on june 24, 1856. to authorize the purchase and the restoration of the resolute and $40,000 was appropriated. on november 13, 1856 the resolute set sail for england under the command of naval officer henry hartstein. and arrived december 12. hears you see queen victoria and her family visiting the ship and being greeted by captain hartstein. the captain and his
presentation speech said allow me to welcome your majesty on board the resolute. in obedience to the will of my countrymen and to the president of the united states, to restore her to you. not only as evidence of a friendly feeling to your sovereignty but as a token of love, admiration and respect to your majesty personally. the resolute was decommissioned in 1879 and dismantled in 1880. on august 26 of that year victor drummond, that british ambassador to washington road to the secker it -- secretary of state. a writing table being made of the direction of the queen. it would be presented to the president of the united states. grateful acknowledgment of the restoration of the vessel in 1856. this writing table was shipped to new york on november 15 on a steamship. and arrived at the white house
on november 23. the lucky recipient, wasted no time using it. on the day of its arrival he wrote a brief little to historian george bancroft. is said mr. hayes wishes me to thank you for the english newspapers containing good words about the administration of her husband. gives me pleasure to say i do it in the first note written in the desk. made for the timbers of the resolute sent by queen victoria to the president. there is a plaque mounted on the drawer that is still there today. it briefly outlines the history of the ship. it says this table was presented by the queen of great britain to the president of the united states. as a memorial of the courtesy and lovingkindness which dictated the offer of the gift of the resolute. i also want to share this image with you.
it is something that appeared a couple weeks later in the december 11, 1880 issue of frank leslie's illustrated newspaper. it was a design not chosen that featured relief costings of both president hayes and queen victoria. if you look carefully on the sides you will see there were arctic scenes provided in relief carvings. what was selected was a much simpler design with carved moldings and floral swags. the pedestal desk was the work of william evanston. a skilled carver. at chatham dock yard. the new panel with the seal of the president of the united states is associated with the desk today. it was added at the request of president franklin roosevelt. it was partly a desire to hide his like braces and a safe under his desk. it was designed by the white
house architect, and constructed of hard oak by rudolph bell's in 1945. president roosevelt did not live long enough to see the panel completed. i can't tell you this desk has been used by nearly every president since rutherford b hayes. it was placed in the oval office by president kennedy. after president kennedy's death it left on exhibition. and was returned to the white house in 1977 for president carter. here you see it today and president trump's oval office. during the latter part of the 19th century there were various pieces of china, purchase from british companies for the white house. they were not full services. i wanted to show you briefly a selection of some of those pieces. the slide on the left shows you some dinner plates that were
acquired during the cleveland administration. by mitten and cold port porcelain works. on the right are some examples from the mckinley administration. dinner plates made by wed words and the smaller t plate also made by mitten. in 1903 a state service was purchased for the white house. made by wedgwood. by 1901 during the presidency of theodore roosevelt it was pretty obvious that the white house was in need of a full china service. the van houston charles company in new york was charged to help the white house acquire such a service. president roosevelt hope to could be made by a u.s. company. in an article in the october 30, 1902 issue of the clay records suggested in order was turned down by the knolls taylor in knowles pottery company in east liverpool ohio. the large order in the
different shapes that were needed were too much for the small plant. edith roosevelt very much wanted a design that was simple and not ornate. what was chosen was this made by wedgwood. a cream white color porcelain decorated in gold. the decoration was actually an adaptation of one of the wedgwood patterns called the one that. described by the press as a simple colonial pattern. what made it unique to the white house was the addition of a hand-painted cereal of the united states. i thought you would enjoy seeing other forms from the service. there's an oyster plate on the left, a demi-task at the center. on the right is a tea cup and saucer. there were 120 place settings made an eight pieces per place setting. in 1910 the cast reordered for other types and added three new types. dessert plates and breakfast cups and saucers.
in 1946 there was a gift made to the white house. it was a gift of the dealer. it appeared to come from the of miss harriet pratt. she was a wealthy new york collector and a member of an advisory committee to the white house. she was a chairperson for over 20 years. the mirror was intended for the state dining room. it was thought to be in the adams style from about 1790. we now think it to be the work of the english designer and cabinetmaker thomas chippendale. probably dates a little bit early, more like 1770. following the truman renovation the mare hung in the blue room for many years but was finally returned to the state dining room in 1961. the probable mate came to the white house collection in 1973. at the request of agnes myers. who was the wife of eugene
meyer, the onetime publisher of the washington post. that mirror today hangs in the entrance hall. at the time of the white house renovation, during the truman presidency there were foreign gifts that were received for the executive mansion. including one from great britain. on october 31, 1951 princess elizabeth and prince philip arrived in washington for a visit with president and mrs. truman. you can see president truman picking them up at the airport. their brief visit included dinners held in their honor and a trip to mount vernon and a visit to the tomb of the unknown
soldier and general sightseeing around washington. prior to their departure on november 2 the princess presented gifts on behalf of her father, king george vi. keep in mind that the white house was still in the midst of a major renovation. the ceremony was held in the rose garden on this makeshift. the princess mentioned that the renovation of the white house had attracted interest all over the world. she added if it had been possible to preserve this beautiful building many people in britain would have shared your disappointment. as it is we are glad to join with you in celebrating its restoration. my father who has many happy memories of his own stay in the house has wish to mark the event with a personal gift. he gave the king great pleasure when he found the other mantle which is before you now. the work of 18th-century artists and embodying the finest british craftsmanship. it seems perfectly suited for the place which it will occupy. it is his hope and mind that it
will be a welcomed ornament to one of your proudest national possessions, and that it will remain here at the mark of our friendship and so long as the white house shall stand. on the left you can see the other mantle mirror. also referred to as a true mow, unfortunately we do not know the maker. on the right is an example of the candelabra that accompanied the mirror. made of blue john's marble, from about 1770 and attributed to michael bolden. the mirror is now a prominent feature in the queen's bedroom. one of the principal guest rooms named for the seven queens that have stayed there. including queen elizabeth ii and her mother. the candelabra can be found in the yellow oval room. a room that is now a formal drawing room. in january 1958 the white house received a large collection of gilded silver. it was of the request that mrs.
margaret thompson biddle who died in 1956, she was an heiress to a montana mining fortune. she was a well-known hostess who had entertained mrs. dwight eisenhower in paris when he was head of the nato forces in europe. she developed a friendship with his miss eisenhower. she was a guest at the white house on several occasions. according to her daughter at a white house dinner, she decided to leave her collection to the u.s. government for use in the white house. as much of this collection is possible was exhibited in a newly created room. this is how the room appeared in 1960.
this is the room as it appears today. there are not as many pieces on view. certainly some important examples. there are over 1500 pieces in the collection. a variety of forms data mostly to the 18th and 19th centuries. a by some of the finest english and french silversmiths. and english regency silversmith is represented by several objects including a set of six wine coolers. each decorated with classical roman scenes. on the left is an example of one of the wine coolers. today they are found on the mantels in the east room. on the right, is a soup terrain. one of a pair made in 1778 by james young from designs by the english architect robert adams. the terrains were made for the duke of north number len. who by the way, whose son left to create this estonian's institution. these are two of my favorite pieces. on the left is a water you're in a wine your. both made by richard sibley
about 1817 to 1818. they are based in a popular form made by wedgwood. in 1963 and 1964 another notable gift came to the white house. this was presented by mrs. weinman. it was a group of english regency table silver. most of which was made by the london silversmith store. on the left you can see examples of candelabra. there were two peer of heavily chased candelabra that was part of this collection. with that, the way it was designed, each piece can be disassembled. you can have your choice of a single candlestick or if you
add the three beautiful scrolled on you can create a candelabra. the silver belong to alexander x , the duke of hamilton. it was part of an official ambassadorial service of silver. mostly by paul store. it was received from the crowd when he was appointed british ambassador to russia in 1806. we think the candelabra may have been a later supplement to the ambassadorial service. the pieces that came to the white house included 104 dinner plates, five covered meat platters, two covered chop plates and a wine plate made by thomas ferrer, into pairs of candelabras. the plate on the right, if you look at the upper top edge you will see that it included the engraved arms of king george the third and the duke of hamilton. at the time of the gift mrs. weinman said the silver was being made available to the white house in order to enhance its historical furnishings, and
further the patriotic inspiration to the people of the united states received from it. i would be remiss if i did not include examples from the fine arts collection. in accordance with our collection policy we collect first of all presidents and first ladies. there's no one more important to our country than benjamin franklin. martin was a scotsman who studied with alan ramsey and established a studio him in london around 1757. franklin was celebrated for his publications on electricity.
it was his testimony in the house of commons that read to the repeal of the stamp act. at this time he is perhaps the most famous american at home and abroad. this painting was commissioned by robert alexander. from the firm of william alexander and edinburgh. family tradition tells us that robert has a disputed claim to property. and must've gone well for robert which explains the commission. the document in franklin's hand is one of alexander's deeds. it's not a government document. the artists also included in the upper left-hand side, the greatest english voice of reason to oversee the scene. the painting was a gift in 1962 by mr. and mrs. walter annenberg. walter annenberg was an editor and publisher and later he was
appointed ambassador by president nixon. he had a longtime interest in franklin. enhanced by the fact that the statesman was an editor as well as a printer in philadelphia. and that he had founded the university of pennsylvania. of which mr. annenberg was the trustee. we also have a few likenesses of british subjects in our collection. this is a portrait by thomas soley painted in 1834. soley was born in england. his family immigrated to the united states when he was still a boy. he later became a well-known portrait painter. francis and campbell was a celebrated actress. a member of the theatrical family who came to the united states on tour in 1832. in 1833 she performed in
washington to great acclaim. in fact, she was presented to president andrew jackson at the white house. she was later described the president as a good specimen of a fine old battered soldier. sully met her in philadelphia introduced by pierce butler. a cousin of his. he was quite enthralled by her. he did several paintings of her. he went on to marry pierce butler in 1834. he come from a wealthy philadelphia family. that also owned plantations in georgia. there's however was not a happy marriage. she was opposed to the slavery that she witnessed on her husband's plantations. that and other factors led her to leave him in 1846. and returned to england and later divorced in 1849. fanny story does not end there.
as she returned to the united states she had lost custody of her daughters and was only able to visit them for a short time each year. until they turn 21. she did return to the stage to raise money but not as an actress. instead she gave public readings. she was a prolific writer. she published a couple of plays, a volume of her poetry. during the civil war she was very concerned about foreign attitudes towards the confederacy. wanting to turn british opinion in favor of the union cause. in 1863 she decided to publish her journal about life in georgia and all that she witnessed. it was entitled journal of her residence on a georgia plantation. this is her portrait of president woodrow wilson painted by the irish born artist
william corbin. he was chosen by the british department of information to document the conflict. in addition to portraits of military leaders and soldiers in the trenches he painted grim battle scenes. because of his wartime service he was knighted in 1918. in 1919 he was commissioned to record the paris peace conference. are portrait of president wilson seen at the right was the study that he painted during the conference. he also painted studies of the other participants that included the prime minister's ability, france and britain. victoria orlando, george clemens so and david lloyd george. with the studies he created the large painting seen, commemorating the june 28 1919 signing of the treaty of their side. the painting isn't hiding -- entitled the signing of peace.
if you look carefully just to the left of the center you can see a seated resident wilson. are portrait is thought to have belonged to the wilsons before passing to a close friend an advisor bernard. it was a gift to the white house in 1962 by his son. given in honor of his father. finally i wanted to close with the barnes bust of winston churchill by jacob epstein. dated 1946. in our collection a gift of the wartime friends of winston churchill. epstein was born in new york city in 1880. he later moved across the pond and became a british sedition in 1907 -- citizen in 1907. the british ministry of information commissioned him to create six likenesses of
wartime leaders. the most notable being the bronze head of winston churchill. epstein was later knighted in 1952. the following church hill's death 18 donors joined together to acquire this bronze for the white house collection. the wartime funds included a former president, dwight d eisenhower, who as you all know was supreme commander of the allied forces in europe. general omar bradley and all but one u.s. ambassador to the united kingdom. as we all heard today church hill certainly had a weiss health -- white house connection. he stayed in the white house several times during world war ii, notably after one of our darkest hours, the bombing of
pearl harbor on december 7, 1941. the prime minister arrived on december 22, with presents for christmas. he was with president roosevelt on the south portico when the national christmas tree was late on christmas eve. along with the president the prime minister delivered a brief message that was broadcast around the nation into the world. nearing the end of his remarks he said, let the children have their night of fun and laughter. of the gifts of father christmas delight their play. but as grown-ups share to the full and their own stented pleasures before we turn again to the stern task and formable years that lie before us. resolve that by our sacrifice in during the same children shall not be robbed of their inheritance or denied their right to live in a free and decent world. thank you very much. tonight american history tv
is in prime time. we will show you our coverage of the white house historical -- with a discussion on presidents in history. featuring several presidents. a former white house executive pastry chef on working under five presidents. that's all tonight at eight eastern here on c-span 3. tomorrow we will have live coverage's former white house press secretary joins a discussion with current white house correspondent and presidential historian john meacham. we will talk with judy woodruff about george w. bush, thomas jefferson and franklin d roosevelt. live coverage from the white house historical conference with representatives from across the country will get underway wednesday morning at nine eastern. an interview about the stonemasons who built the white house. we talk with historian william seale for about a half an hour. >> white house historian bill seale