tv Conservative Political Action Conference with Reps. Meadows Jordan and... CSPAN February 28, 2019 8:31am-11:56am EST
captioning performed by vitac >> and if you're curious, i even have the video to prove it, i'm not making this up. this was one of those moments where as a parent i thought, yes, something i said mattered, something i said made a difference. why is it so important to focus on this? why does this matter to me? why do i believe it should matter to all americans? well, as justice scalia used to say -- justice scalia, by the way, who loved him? [ applause ] we lost him just over three years ago and we miss him very
much, but one of the things he used to say is any ten-horned dictator around the world can have a bill of rights, but whether or not it's able to protect you, to protect any individual, depends on the extent to which that system of government constrains those in power and prevents them from accumulating excessive power. now, you've heard a lot about this accumulation of power in recent days and all of a sudden on the left we see a magical resurgence, a magical reawakening of this idea that there out to be operation of powers within our system of government. i almost wept into anaphylactic shock when i saw chuck schumer and nancy pelosi talking about separation of powers on national television. that's great, but i wish they would have talked about it sooner. where was their outrage over the violation of the constitution and the separation of powers in the last decade? where was the concern about congress' article 1 power to declare war when president obama
declared a national emergency in 2011 as part of his undeclared war in libya? where was the concern about congress' article i power over immigration and naturalization where in 2012 president obama having failed to get legislation passed through congress that he wanted created a brand-new immigration amnesty program out of thin air. or when he, again, unilaterally expanded his unconstitutional illegal program in 2014 just days after his party had suffered massive losses at the polls. the fact is, ladies and gentlemen, our deviation from federalism and from separation of powers, the vertical protection of federalism that keeps most of the power close to the people at the state and local level and the horizontal protection of separation of powers that says we're going to have one branch that makes the laws, another branch that enforces them and yet another branch that interprets them where people come into conflict as to their meaning. we've deviated from both of those principles under the
leadership of houses of representatives of senate's and white houses of every conceivable partisan combination. what is making america great again and what i believe will continue to make america great again is our continued move in that direction toward rebalancing power, toward sending power back to where it belongs, which is with the people. [ applause ] in order to reignite this national conversation that i think we need to have i've written a book, a new book that comes out on april 23rd, it's called "our lost declaration", you can buy it on amazon today, by the way, pre order it, but it delves into some of these topics. it delves into why it is we became a country in the first place, why it is two and a half centuries ago under the administration of king george iii we decided we had been taxed too much, regulated too op civil, represented by a government that was far from us
and slow to respond to the needs of the people. we as americans can learn much from our founding generation, from remembering why it is that we fly the stars and stripes and no longer the union jack. it wasn't just about getting rid of a monarmonarchy, it was abou freedom. this isn't a partisan issue. this is a constitutional issue. and it is an absolute imperative for our freedom. just as we have been since 1776, we as americans are ready for this fight. are you ready to join me and your fellow americans in restoring freedom? [ applause ] i thank each of you for the work that you do. you are the activists, you are the people who move the movement. i say, bring it on, let's roll,
liberty. america is great because america is an exceptional country. an exceptional country where anyone can succeed and our exceptionalism makes us a unique country and sets us apart from anywhere else in the world. our exceptionalism is unique and a big part of what makes america exceptional is not only what senator mike lee just so eloquently said, but the fact that we have freedom. freedom. america's economic free enterprise is comprised of freedom to choose, property
rights, profit motive, competition for goods and services, consumers with the power of the purse, where you choose what goods and services succeed or fail. freedom is a beautiful thing. [ applause ] and free enterprise is working. president trump's pro growth economy is delivering for all americans. all americans. lower taxes, lower regulations, businesses are incentivized to hire, grow and innovate. our economy is the envy of the world. manufacturing is back. over 400,000 jobs created, added, under president trump. the war on coal is over.
over. america is the number one producer of oil and natural gas. january jobs report beat expectations again. unemployment is near a 50-year low. national unemployment 4%, black unemployment 6.8%, wages are up 3%, all under president trump. but sadly, my friends, our free enterprise system is under assault from within. why is that? because democrats believe more in the power of big government than in the power of the
individual. and democrats are so desperate they are openly embracing socialism. embracing socialism. the affinity for socialism is on the rise, where democrats want big government to be the end-all and be all from the cradle to the grave. they want to dictate -- dictate your every day way of life and expand government as much as possible. the 2020 democrat presidential candidates are trying to outleft each other, trying to break away from the pack and pander to their base for votes. and let's face it, democrat policies are horrible. the new green deal, medicare for all, tax the rich, reparations, free college tuition, and did i
mention tax the rich? it's the fundamental transformation of america on steroids. here is another reason democrats are desperate, because president trump is looking out for the forgotten men and women. and he got big government out of the way of hard working families. but democrats are ignoring america's economic success under president trump because, wait for it, because it's president trump. they are doing and saying anything they can to discredit the president and distract americans from his accomplishments. president trump is called a
racist. nancy pelosi called the bonuses that hard working americans get crumbs. maxine waters wants to impeach president trump. democrats despise president trump. democrats despise trump's administration. democrats despise the president's policies and democrats despise each and every one of you here today. you, deplorables, you. how dare you think independently. how dare you embrace freedom. how dare you. you, along with president trump, are a threat to democrats. my friends, america is unlike any other country in the world. and let me remind you what president trump said during his state of the union address, and
i quote, america was founded on liberty and independence, not government coercion, domination and control. we are born free and we will stay free. [ applause ] and he also said, tonight we renew our resolve that america will never be a socialist country. [ applause ] i know i will never let that happen on my watch and i know you won't, either. before i close, my friends, i want to leave you with this thought, that our country does not guarantee you success, but liberty guarantees you the
interpretive dance and i did not see it. i think he was struggling over what to do with separation of powers and what that might look like on stage here. maybe next time. i am honored to join you to help you kick off the premiere gathering of conservatives in america, and, wow, have we grown since i was here in college. good job, matt and dan, this crew is amazing. you know, it's providential that the first cpac was held during one of the darkest moments in our nation's history, the january after roe versus wade decision which is an affront to the indignities we have endured for 46 years. america is more than a form of government, we know that, it's a set of promises to its people. the declaration of independence
promises a government that respects and safeguards the inalienable rights of every human being, the first among those rights in front of every other right, the right to life. and of course we know that the constitution acknowledges that america was founded to secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, our children. what makes these promises revolutionary and a beacon of hope to the entire world is that it puts america's founding squarely on the side of the powerful, the defenseless, the marginalized, the lonely, those in the shadows. it defies the tyranny of the strong over the weak. the idea that somehow might makes right. our rights are not contingent upon government's plans or our plans, but exist because god willed us into being, loved us
with an unfathomable love and created each one of us, boy and girl, with a specific purpose that only we can fill. whenever our culture loses touch with these principles and justice and suffering follow, even in our own great nation. great human rights movements in our nation's history, abolition, suffrage, the civil rights movement, the child labor movement, have pointed towards these promises of our founding documents as an anchor of truth, an invitation to servant leadership, an anecdote to indifference. roe versus wade was a profound dee trail of america's foundational promises. in one just fateful day that decision and it's companion decision swept away every single law in this nation protecting unborn children. edward lazarus who is a former clerk for liberal supreme court
justice harry blackman said that, quote, roe borders on the indefensible, a constitution m right to privacy broad enough to include abortion has no meaningful foundation in constitutional text, history or precedent. even ruth bader ginsberg said, quote, that roe, quote, provoked not resolved conflict. instead of deriving its just powers from the consent of the govern, the court in an act of extreme hub russ disenfranchised every american and our representatives imposing abortion on demand through birth as the national status quo, instead of securing life and liberty for all our children, we failed our promises to our people. since 1973 we have collectively destroyed 60 million boys and girls intended for this world.
each one -- each one made as president trump said in his state of the union message the other day in the holy image of god. our country's abortion laws are so extreme that it puts us in the company of only seven other countries in the world, including china and north korea, regimes that lindsey graham is always saying that's a human rights club you do not want to be in. though we advocate for human rights around the world, our role as the biblical shining city on the hill and what president reagan envisioned and spoke of so often remains tragically tarnished. where did we go wrong? friends, we have to ask that question. we are on the other side of it now and the horror can be gotten used to, just like every other evil. children get used to their own abuse, victims across the board
during our history got used to their own -- to the usurpation of their rights. we cannot get used to this horror even with 3,000 every day who we will never know. how do we depart so radically from the defining principles that makes america exceptional? this is not who we're supposed to be and it is not at our core who we are. a few days ago we witnessed the logical conclusion to which roe leads, the u.s. senate had the opportunity to vote on the born alive abortion survivors act, legislation to ensure that babies born alive during failed abortions receive the same treatment as any other premature baby would prior to sustain its life. this bill responds to, as you well know, the radical efforts in new york and virginia and now popping up in so many states across this country.
where they would extend abortion to the point when a baby -- when a mother is even in labor. in fact, extend that so called right to the baby's birthday. every single democrat in the senate had the chance that day to take a stand against murder, all but three of them refused. the inhumanity of the modern democratic party's position on abortion has now been exposed. we should be grateful for that. safe, legal and rare, that old clinton way of looking at it, is just a distant memory. safe, legal and rare is not their mantra. what their mantra is if you signed up for a dead baby you're going to get one no matter what. there may be a temptation to look at this last vote and be discouraged, but do not be discouraged. the truth sets us free. clarity is vital in moments like
this. the battle lines have been drawn. america -- part of america that has been standing on the sidelines cannot -- is not missing this moment. just this past week we got polling in light of virginia and new york that showed that democrats self-described pro life moved from 20% to 34%. people under the age of 45, i think i call those young people now, had a 20-point jump in how many people considered themselves pro life. we are having a national conversation about life and protecting it or not in a way that we have never before, not since roe versus wade. we are witnessing panic, desperation and overreach on the other side that is typical of a
dying cause. life is winning, everywhere in the hearts and minds of americans. and president trump we have the most productive pro life president in history. he is delivering on his promises to the pro life voters who propelled him to victory and he is surpassing our hopes. with the president fully engaged and leading by example the pro life movement is ready to go on offense, defeat abortion extremists in all the states, aggressively challenge roe and a court now transformed with outstanding constitutionist judges chosen by this president and protect our pro life allies in congress, we will also reelect president trump in 2020. with the muscle of the pro life movement solidly behind him and
life will be a pivotal and defining issue of this coming election. the stream position that is supported only by a tiny sliver of the american people, that it's somehow justifiable to kill a newborn child or abandon her to die is one that no presidential candidate wants to have to be on the other side of. in the last presidential campaign hillary clinton tried to rationalize all this and it didn't go well, thanks to president trump. candidate trump. he had the courage to illuminate the brutal reality of abortion in debate on national tv for the very first time on a debate stage. now kamala harris, kyrsten gillibrand, cory booker, elizabeth warren, bernie sanders, amy klobuchar and every other potential democratic candidate will have to answer for where they stand.
recently i had the extreme privilege of introducing president trump to young families and young people whose stories were so powerful and a reminder of the love and humanity at the center, the core, of the pro life movement. there were women and children who had been spared from the destructi destructive abyriss of the abortion industry. never before have abortion survivors been invited into the oval office for conversation with the president. the beauty of their lives that day and the heart breaking thought of a world without any of them impells us to fight. one of my favorites and was a young woman from atlanta who was a top -- this young woman with down's syndrome talked about her life as beautiful, valuable, worth it and stop eliminating her brothers and sisters with
down's syndrome. another of my favorites, melissa odin, was a survivor of abortion. she survived after five days of sitting in saline -- in a saline abortion situation. five days she sat in that and by a miracle she survived and she is a beautiful woman, 41 years old with two little children. it's time to renew our commitment to our founding documents and their promises. we've been estranged from this great heritage because of roe versus wade and the hearts that led to that. the duty of conservatives, i believe, in this particular moment is to prod the memory of a nation that is suffering from a rootless amnesia that has led to death. alexis observed the greatness of america lies not in being more enlightened than any other nation, but rather in her ability to repair her faults.
to make america great again roe must go. and abortion must end. and like every other human rights movement, we know this, proceeding in all of those -- all of those human rights movements proceeding in an unbroken line throughout history pro lifers will be told you can't. we've heard this before, you can't, but with humility we must admit that's not true, we cannot do this alone. we believe life will be victorious because of another guiding american principle, faith in the creator. our creator who endowed us with unalienable rights, who turns no into yes. who turns can't into can. and that's what makes america great. thank you. [ applause ] ♪
[ applause >> ladies and gentlemen, to discuss a force for good please welcome with the national rifle association retired lieutenant colonel ollie north. ♪ [ applause ] >> thank you all. good morning. as the u.s. marine here this morning i have two missions, one, get us back on schedule, and number two, to answer the question what makes america great.
look, we are the greatest nation on the planet because of one word and that word is freedom. freedom is about people, individual citizens who know that in their heart america is the greatest nation on earth because the american people are the freeest people on earth. that's what makes america great. we are the only nation in history with a constitution that begins with these words, "we the people" thus defining who governs our country. ours is the only constitution that recognizes god, not some prince or potent ate, as god is the grantor of the blessings of liberty. ours is the only constitution containing a real bill of rights, which protects the freedoms of every citizen from the awesome power of government. ours is the only founding document which gives every law
abiding citizen the right to pray or not, as they believe. to come and go as we want. to speak as we please. and among other freedoms, the right to keep and bear arms has no constitutional restrictions. ours is the only country on the planet where every law officer, every member of our armed forces, every elected official takes an oath of office with words like these, they raise their right arm, and they say, i solemnly swear to support and defend the constitution of the united states against all enemies foreign and domestic and to bear true faith and allegiance to same. that pledge is not to a person, a purpose or a political party, it is to the constitution of the united states, all of it, every word in it. and that society ends with the
words "so help me god." i've raised my right hand to take and administer that oath hundreds of times since i first did so in front of a u.s. marine recruiter on the 29th of december, 1961. on september 8th last year i, again, pledged to support and defend our constitution when i was given the privilege to serve as president of the national rifle association of america. my whole life i've been blessed to be able to keep company with heroes, those who defend our freedoms overseas. as a marine and as a war correspondent for fox news. and now i get to keep company with the men and women of our nation's oldest civil rights organization, who defend our freedoms here at home. that's what the nra is all about. freedom.
as many of you know, the nra is now in the midst of a serious fight to protect the second amendment and the first, in a trial up in albany, new york. our opponents call themselves gun control advocates. they are not. they ought to call themselves what they really are, the vanguard of the disarm america movement. you see, they are not going to be consent to simply ignore the last four words of that second amendment, shall not be infringed. they intend to repeal all 27 words and then confiscate every privately owned firearm in our country. they want to disarm you, no second amendment, no individual freedom, no civilian ownership of firearms, period. the second amendment is actually the purest metaphor for freedom because if you are not free to defend yourself and your loved
ones, then you are really not free at all. our second amendment is unique. there is no other country that has anything like it, but if the disarmament movement succeeds in taking over our government, every one of those god-given individual rights, liberties and freedoms guaranteed by our constitution will be up for grabs. that means the america we know now will be no longer. it will southeast will cease to. there is one organization standing in their way, the national rifle association of america with more than 5 million members. [ applause ] now, at this point i would normally ask for a show of hands of how many of you are members, but i don't want to embarrass anybody. but if you are not a member, join us now, we will be pleased to have you in our ranks. >> hillary clinton and barack obama have a new favorite line, that donald trump is a symptom, not the cause, but here is the
truth, our president and all of us who believe in making america great are a cure, a cure to an ideology of elitism that looks down on those who have guns or pray to god and cause our neighbors in the heartland deplorables. a cure to an america last foreign policy that restricted the might of our military and denied our wounded heroes the care they deserve. a cure to targeting law enforcement while celebrating those who dishonor our flag. a cure to a secretary of state who lied about benghazi and a former president who disgrace flee called the murder of those four americans a conspiracy theory. and a cure to those who deny america's greatness. over the last two years we cured the ills they brought to our country. let's stand together so the new leaders of the house of representatives don't make america weak again.
>> thank you. and since i've talked a lot about and to god in my lifetime, i ask you to pray for the nra. we know it's freedom that makes america great and we know that the nra is freedom's safest place. god bless you and semper if i had lis. [ applause ] ♪ >> oliver north. well, as we just heard what makes america great is many things, the fact that we are a nation founded on the principle of liberty, that we are a nation
where anyone can succeed in our free enterprise system, that we are a nation that understands that god has granted us rights and the most important of these is life, and we are a nation, as you just heard, that understands that we don't just talk about freedom, we actually fight for t not just for ourselves, but for anyone who wants that freedom. a few years back some of you have heard me tell this, but years ago i had the chance to go to philadelphia for the first time, and maybe i'm a little bit of a geek, but as a kid i always thought of our founders like superheroes, bigger than life. so when i got a chance to go with my life to independence hall i was ready to be blown away, you know, i kind of thought it might be like the justice league, i would see where the superheroes were at. as i got up early that morning to go into one of our nation's treasured structures i saw as i came in that the desk and the tables there, the chairs and the other things were very much like the ones you're sitting in today
and tables and chairs that we use all across this country, a little bit older, but they weren't much different. you see, what it reminded me of is the fact that our founders were just ordinary people, ordinary people that did something quite extraordinary. you see, they didn't just risk their political careers, they didn't risk their business ventures, these were people i dare say patriots who risked their lives for the freedoms we hold dear today. what makes america great are not just the things we talked about, but that simple fact that all throughout our history, not just there in independence hall, but in places across this country and around the world that there have always been men and women of courage willing to stand up and think more about not their futures, but the future of their children and their children's children to ensure that they have the freedoms and liberties that those folks literally
risked their lives for. that's what makes america great and that's our challenge to each and every one of us here to make sure that all those who fought and many who died did not die in vain, that we continue to fight for those freedoms every single day. thank you and god bless you. [ applause ] >> ladies and gentlemen, please welcome dr. sebastian gorka. ♪ [ applause ] >> are we excited, patriots?
all right. what a time to be alive. what a time to be an american. i am honored to be here. thanks to dan snyder and all the amazing people, especially the volunteers that make this event the biggest conclave of conservatives in america. [ applause ] now, i've been asked to talk about russia and i might talk about russia, but i might talk about something else. let me tell you a story first because everybody likes a good story, and it will help you understand where i'm coming from and how i understand the threats to america today. my parents escaped from communism, they made it to the west and i was blessed to be born in a free country, the united kingdom, and despite being born there we would vacation every year in france. i want to tell you about an
event during my childhood that changed my life forever. my father was an athlete, he was an amazing powerful figure of a man and he loved to swim, and i remember being on the beach in france, maybe seven, eight years old, and i was playing on the sand and my father come out of the sea and i noticed something, i saw for the first time in my life i saw on his wrists these deep white lines and i thought, my dad is not old enough to be wrinkled. what's that? so i said to him, dad, what's that? without blinking, without hesitating, with no emotion, he just looked at me and said, son, that's where the secret police bound my wrists together with wire behind my back so they
could hang me from the ceiling of the torture chamber. that is the threat to america. at that point i knew that socialism isn't just theoretical, it is a real threat. now, why does this connect to the topic i've been given today? it connects because russia, we have to remember, is run by a former kgb colonel. that's the kind of person who would be torturing freedom fighters like my father in the basement of the headquarters of the kgb. that's the reality. there's a lot of fake news out there about russia, but let's look at the facts. it's run by a man who thinks it's okay to use radioactive thrown yum to assassinate somebody he doesn't like, like in the uk, not on his territory,
a sasse nate them somewhere else. he thinks it's okay to use chemical weapons against people he disagrees with, as was the skripal attempted assassination. this is a man who broke a 70-year taboo, international taboo, when he invaded the ukraine and annexed the property, the territory, of another nation for himself. not since 1945, not since the end of world war ii, not since we dropped a nuclear bomb on japan has that taboo been broken. vladimir putin broke it. however, here is the good news, russia today is not a super power. it's not the soviet union. thanks in part to the president of the united states who has driven energy prices so low that that one horse town russia which
runs on gas and oil is in deep, deep trouble today. [ applause ] and let's look at the reality. we just had this rat fink michael cohen try to get the president in trouble yesterday, but on my radio show i used the sound bite, and i think i'm going to use it probably every day for the next year, michael cohen said no, sir, i have no evidence of russian collusion with the president. thank you, michael cohen. why? because there wasn't any. i was in the oval office with the president, it was may or june of 2017, just the two of us, and i was in there for other business, but suddenly he changed the subject, looked at me, he got that laser eye look that he does sometimes and he said, they will find nothing because there is nothing.
so what's the reality of russia? russia is a threat, it's not the greatest threat to america, the greatest threat to america is china, internationally. china has a plan to displays america as the greatest most powerful country in the world by the 100th anniversary of their revolution in 2049. don't take my word for it, read it. it's not classified. it's called one belt one road. go to your favorite search engine and it better not be google, okay, we don't like google, and look up one belt one road and you will find the threat. but russia remains a destabilizing force, whether it's in syria, whether it's in the baltic, whether it's in asia, it tries to create disturbances in the force that it can exploit for itself.
and, hey, why should we be surprised? it's run by a former kgb colonel. did i tell you that? this is the reality, it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks. but let's just look at how the president is dealing with russia. how do you deal with bullies? there's only the right way to deal with bullies, you don't cave to them, you don't send hillary to give them a nice plastic reset button, that's not how you deal with bullies. let's just go back in time. if you haven't heard this don't take my word for it, check it out. after russia broke a 70-year taboo, invaded its neighbor, annexed, stole its territory, what did the 44th president of the united states, barack obama, do? this isn't a joke. he shipped blankets to the ukrainians. blankets.
so they will have something to wrap the dead bodies in, i guess. what did we do when we got to the white house? we instigated one of the toughest sanction regimes in modern history, when we heard of the assassination attempt in the uk we kicked out 60 russian diplomats. okay? spies. and then what did we send kiev? did we send them more blankets? did we send them socks? donald j. trump sent the government of the ukraine anti-tank missiles. america is back and we know how to deal with bullies. we're not going to fight your wars for you, but we will help you fight your own wars. the most important thing the president has done is to give a speech in warsaw where he said
america is back, we are proud of our judeo christian heritage and we will stand by any nation shoulder to shoulder that shares our values, whether it's poland, whether it's israel, whether it's any other country like the ukraine. that is america. [ applause ] now, let me cheat and talk about what i really want to talk about. dan -- no, he's not here. good. matt, no the here. okay. there is a connection, i'm not stretching it, there is a segue. russia will be dealt with, we will put it back in its box just like the president is dealing with north korea, playing hard ball, just the same way he's dealing with iran and all the threats that face us, but do you know what the biggest threat to america is, not socialism in moscow. socialism here in america.
[ applause ] according to the amazing victims of communism memorial foundation, they did a poll last year in which they found that 52% of american millennials would like to live in a socialist or communist america. that -- yes, indeed, boo. yes, indeed, misshiss. that is where 40, 4-0 democratic candidates in the last midterm election called themselves socialists. that is why alexandra ocasio-cortez has introduced the green new deal which is -- which is -- remember this one, use it -- it's a watermelon.
green on the outside, deep, deep red communist on the inside. [ applause ] they want to take your pickup truck, they want to rebuild your home, they want to take away your hamburgers. this is what stalin dreamt about but never achieved. you are on the front lines of the war against communism coming back to america under the guise of democratic socialism, which is just the pc determine for communism. i want everyone to take to heart donald j. trump is never going to let it happen and as he said to congress, america will never be a socialist country. [ applause ]
[ crowd chanting u.s.a. ] america first, america -- america first, that's a great name for a radio show. have you heard of it? check it out. america first, america always. god bless all of you. can i ask you a favor before i go? the boss always likes this. can you stand up and i will give you a thumbs up. come on, everybody. god bless. [ applause ] ♪ >> ladies and gentlemen, from turning point u.s.a., charlie kirk.
[ applause ] [ applause ] good morning c pac. this is my 6th c pac which is amazing. my first c pac was in 2010. at the time turning point usa was about five or six people strong. but for those of you that don't know turning point usa we're a nationwide grass roots student movement now active and present on 1,400 high school and college campuses across the country. when we're not growing turn point usa every day i'm
traveling the country speaking on college campuses with the great ms. owns. he had she has done more to move the black conservative movement in the usa than anyone i know in the last 20 years. what we find is that students are not opposed to our ideas inherently it's not that they are exposed to them. it's that the left has done everything they can to make sure our generation has never heard why america is the greatest country ever to exist. or why free markets are the most moral proven effective economic the many system discovered or why the constitution is the greatest political document ever written or why abortion after birth is immoral and should be rejected in modern hand decent
society. they never heard these ideas. and one of the things donald trump has done is he has not changed the left. he has revealed them. this is who they have always been. they have always hated this country. they have always had contempt for our history. and what i find is that we as conservatives we say, far too often, we want the same thing as liberals. we just have a different way of getting there. who has heard this before? i don't want to live in a country that the socialist left wants to create. we are not going in the same direction as the democrat party. i don't want to live in the country where it's okay to execute a new born child. that's not the country i want to live in. we do not have different ways of getting to the same place. we have two different place that is we want to get to. and i'm so sick and tired of saying we should give the benefit of the doubt to liberals
and say, well, they mean well. they mean well? if you want to fundamentally transform and destroy this country from within, you do not mean well. you do not have good intentions. whatsoever. if you want to suppress conserves from coming on college campuses, you do not mean well. if you want to deplatform conservatives from social media, you do not mean well. if you want for the continue to give $500 million a year to planned parenthood, you do not mean well. if you want to stand against israel, you do not mean well. if you want to keep on giving money to the palestine authority, you do not mean well. if you want to give hundreds of millions of dollars to the mulla in inner you don't mean well if you would rather listen to michael cohen spew lies than plaud the denuclearization of the korean peninsula you do not mean well. i'm sick and tired of saying that the democrat party and
liberals mean well. they do not mean well. [ applause ] >> if there is one thing we take away from what this president has taught us is that when we as a movement fight we win. and it seems as if for the last 30 years we've been afraid to fight. and the one fight that brought us together, because we took note from the president, was the attempted public character assassination of now justice brett kavanaugh. when the left -- when the left did everything they possibly could to destroy a decent man and his family, based on 30-year-old lies. and we were somehow supposed to dismiss this amazing judicial record because of something that
we had not heard of before, now came to public light. but we must understand as we go into the 2020 cycle, the left knows that their attacks from the middle are not working. they are now going to try to attack donald trump from within our own movement. ner going to try to say he did not fulfill his promising. they are going to try to say he is not doing what he said he is going to do. if you want to get love from the left, be a conservative that attacks donald trump. if you want to get on the main stream networks, be a conservative that writes poorly about in president. you want to get published in all the best newspapers, be a conservative that attacks the most conservative president in our generation. because -- [ applause ] >> and you must understand, those of us that decide to stand and defend this president, it can be very tough.
you will get article after article written about you. but if you want to be loved, you want to get invited to the cocktail parties, you want to get all the right compliments on twitter, then, sure, attack the president. but we as a conservative movement should never, ever try to appease the left just to be loved. ever. ever. we must do it as rights. do what is correct and stand for truth. this is the most conservative president since ronald reagan if not in american history. and he has done everything he said he is going to do. for years i came to c. pac if only we had someone that stood up against iran. if only we could move the move the embassy. if cut taxes more conservatives on the judicial bench. deregulate the economy, if only we could rebuild the military.
if we had someone taking grirmgs seriously. if only we had someone calling out the relationship between big business, big government and big tech. and we have that president. and he is fighting for us every single day. [ applause ] i get asked quite often, charlie, what do you see coming from the next generation? and traveling the country abgoing to the college campuses i can tell you there is a lot to be concerned about. the socialist movement is growing. but there is also a lot to be optimistic about. and the conservative movement that i see growing right now is going to be one that understands the left because if you're -- if you're a campus conservative out there whether part of turning point usa or all the other
amazing organizations out there and you stay a conserve four years you understand exactly mo the left is. so i see a conservative movement that will stand for the dignity of all people, unborn, preborn, newly born, all people. that's the conservative movement that i see. i see a conservative movement that is thankful to live in america, not angry to live in america. i see a conservative movement that stand was israel. i see a conservative movement that fights the left, not the way that they fight us where they punch us in the face like at uk berkeley hayden williams total hero gets bunched because he was tabling for the turning point usa but that fights the left in cultural institutions, understands as the great andrew breitbart said that politicking flows from culture. and if you gave me an option and said would you rather have more
control in politics or culture which would you choose? i would choose culture in an instant. because politics is short-term. culture is long-term. and the left has done so much corrosion in our society in the cultural realm. where students are being taught that there is no objective truth, that you are your own truth, that there is no such thing as right and wrong, you can create your own right and wrong. and the stems from the universities. and for years i tried to warn the conservative base that there was going to be a socialist under the age of 35 that's going to come to congress and is going to try to make the ideas mainstream. and some people kind of laughed at me. well they're here and more than one of them. because what happens in congress, what happens on campus will is soon come to congress. college campuses are a harbinger of things to come. college campuses can tell you they are the leading indicator
of the ideology and the viewpoints that will soon be held main stream in media, pop culture and in congress. pan so what we do, the fight that i've decided to engage in, is one that will either make or break western civilization. because our generation, the next generation, generation z, we have a generation that has contempt for america, doesn't matter if nept high or low taxes. if we have a generation that hates this country, that believes that we are racist, misogynistic and homophobic, it doesn't matter. all the rest is irrelevant. and if you think you are oppressed because you live in america, you are wrong. you have to be taught that you're oppressed if you think you are oppressed because you live in america. so, folks, in closing i will say this. we have one of the greatest blessings ever to live in this country at this time. there is a culture war brewing right now. and it's a culture war different -- it's a different
one from the '80s and '90s. i want is a fundamental question. what is is a america? is it a place for victims or vikters? a place to achieve dreams or dwell in mediocrity. >> is a place for people who have fled from totalarian dictatorships. that's the question in. i want the most important in american history. and we will win. thank you guys, so much. dwas a pleasure. thank you. [ applause ] ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the ceo of my pillow,
mike lindell. [ applause ] >> hello, everyone. i wrote this at 3 in the morning, i believe god gave me the words. i'm so humbled and honored to be before you all. i'm especially nervous following two of the most amazing speakers i've ever met. dr. gorka and charlie kirk. they are so knowledgeable, and i'm very new to this so i'm going to do something different. i'd like you all to use your imagination and come with me on a short journey back in time. a little -- a little over ten years ago i was an alcoholic and a crack cocaine addict. on january 16th, 2009, god freed
me from these and other addictions and started me on a path to a restored heart. praise jesus! [ applause ] i woke up from years of addiction, and i was oblivious as to what was going on in our country. what i saw before me were friends unemployed, terrible political correctness, people saying happy holidays instead of merry christmas, and people trying to take god out of everything, and not even ac knowledging jesus christ. i saw myself thinking back in time to my childhood when seeds of patriotism were planted in our schools like when we pledge allegiance to the flag and recited we were one nation under god. i now saw high prices, a poor economy, high crime, police getting attacked for doing their job. the family values and morality
were missing. apartment was apologizing to the world for us being the usa. and giving billions of dollars to evil empires. a new evil was taking over called isis. quite frankly it looked like the end times prophesied in the bible. i saw family and friends living in fear. what had happened to our country. i now bring you back in time to the summer of 2015. i see donald trump coming down an the escalator and announcing he is running for president [ applause ] >> for me it was a divine and miraculous moment i felt something miraculous was about to unfold then i found myself wanting to learn something i knew nothing about which was politics. i didn't know a liberal from a conservative. i starpted reading about it and i couldn't believe what i read. i definitely -- know who i am --
my biggest surprise was i couldn't find crossover. i tried in my mind to make common sense out of this and why anyone would want to be where we had gone as a people and a country. it didn't make sense what people were doing. and now we go back in time to 2016. and i see myself in divine appointments and one was especially important. donald trump invited me to the meet him at trump tower in new york city. i walked into his office with high hopes on august 15th, 2016. i walked out of that office after meeting with him and i knew god had chosen him for such a time as this. [ applause ] god answered our prayers, our millions of prayers and gafs us grace, and a miracle happened on november 8th, 2016.
we were given a second chance and time granted to get our country back on track with our conservative values and getting people saved in jesus name. [ applause ] as i stand before you today, i see the greatest president in history. of course he is. he was chosen by god. i see record low unemployment, from african-americans to hispanics at an all-time low. i see 5 million new jobs created since donald trump took office. i see wages going up, entrepreneurs are taking risks again with consumer confidence at an all-time high. i see gdp growth approaching 4%. i see isis demolished and trade deals getting made and getting done. i see promises made and promises kept. [ applause ] i feel hope. we finally have a common sense,
pragmatic conservative president who keeps his word. i now realize how important politics are and how they affect everything we do. but what i don't understand is the hate. now i turn the channel and i see a world of no common sense and hate for our president. why would people want to have no borders and drugs coming into our country when we have the worst drug epidemic in our history? i have news for them. this is very dear to me being an exaddict and i was there when the president signed the 800 page opiate bill and i know the great things getting done in spite of the no common sense resistance and hate. we will beat the drug crisis in our president's next six years in office.
[ applause ] i see a party saving minimum os in california and killing babies in new york. are you kidding me? you know, where is that common sense? one of the 10 commandments is thou shalt not kill. well this is going to change. last summer i was called by movie producers who asked me to have a part in a movie called unplanned. it's a true story about abbey johnson, director at planned parenthood and she quit after seeing what goes on there and seeing how children are getting murdered. after hearing this and know whag a great message this movie would bring i not only said i would be in it but i would help finance it. [ applause ] and it was -- it was filmed in a secret location last year and with god's perfect timing in history it's coming to theaters everywhere march 29th.
here is the trailer for you guys to see. >> are you ready? are you kidding i'm been waiting for this my whole life. >> for me to get behind anything, i have to be so 0% all in. i either go -- there is nothing in between. and just like with my pillow when i went all in with my pillow and i find out what this movie was about and the message behind it and everything, and it was -- i said i'm going to -- i'm in 100%. [ cheers and applause ] >> you guys, this movie that i went in, the -- it's been under attack. and it's got -- it just received an r rating. hello. where is the common sense where a 15-year-old can go get an abortion without permission from her parent but you have to have permission or with your parents to see this movie?
what's wrong with that? [ applause ] we're going to -- we're going to all -- we're going to be showing this movie tonight in its entirety at 7:00. you guys should all watch it. it's going to change lives. and my prayer is that this movie will stop the killings. praise jesus. we have a president who stands for the unborn babies and now even ones that they kill after they're born. i want to say god bless you all process. god bless our president. and god bless the united states of america! [ applause ] >> abbey johnson is in the other room. >> here? our first order of business is to present planned parenthood's employee of the year award. >> abby johnson.
♪ there is fire inside. >> this is abbey our volunteer escort. >> >> i'd be the youngest director in planned parenthood history. >> you'll be in charge of the abortions at your clinic. >> i have a chance to make a real difference. >> no matter what you do the rest of your life you're still going to be a baby killer. >> the only thing that's changed is you abby. you even hear yourself talk about the procedures. niece are little babies. >> i'm not going to apologize for doing a job that helps women in crisis. >> they're still a part of me i said sure. >> the one thing that all experts agree on, is that at this stage tcan't feel anything >> they need an extra person in the back room. are you free? >> i saw it. it was like it was twisting and fighting for its life. >> we commend the souls of these hundreds of children.
and lord, we pray to end abortion. >> i really appreciate what you have done for us. i'll not forget it. >> 22,000 abortions. >> rough day at the office. >> you could say that. ♪ you making a masterpiece ♪ >> your dad and me, you were our baby from the moment of conception. >> this is corporate policy. >> we are an aproergs borings provider. >> everything they told sus a lie. i can't be part of this anymore. >> don't undersystematic the repercussions of this. >> please don't do this rond aifr. >> let me tell you what's going to happen if you walk through that door.
>> congratulations you have made an enemy of one of the most powerful organizations on the planet. [ applause ] ♪ >> you don't have self government if you doept know what the government is up to. judicial watch has a highly skilled team of investigators and lawyers know what questions to ask and know the lawsuits to file and how to litigate in court. we have well over 30 federal lawsuits asking for documents about the targeting of donald trump, the abuses of the deep state, the mueller special counsel investigation, you know other basic requests for information that only judicial watch is in court asking for the documents on. judicial watch is experience is you don't get the documents unless you are in court asking for them. without judicial watch we wouldn't know what we know about
the irs scandal. we wouldn't know what with he know about the benghazi scandal and hillary clinton's email scandal would be secret but for judicial watch. [ cheers and applause ] >> that was ma 10% increase in voters 18 through 29. but a third were conservatives. >> charlie kirk. maybe charlie kirk on the college campuses it might be working. >> a special thanks also to my friend charlie kirk of turning point usa. >> turning point usa. how many kids were there? 3,000 student activists. and this is a group that has been put together and operates under the auspices of charlie kirk. >> we fight on colleges tafrpzs every day fighting more the next generation and to know we have the back being of the most successful president of our generation means the world. because, look we are in a culture war right now fighting for free speech, free markets and american exceptionalism. and to have the president take time out of his schedule to meet
with us exchange ideas really means the world. >> each of you is taking part in the young black leadership summit. >> the economy is so good that barack obama is claiming credit for it. >> exactly what we all want to say. >> okay. okay. >> you call people like me a racist it cheapens real racism because everybody then become as racist. there is zero evidence that i'm a racist. >> maybe a couple years prior. >> kavanaugh with. >> what an exciting time to be alive. >> you said know i didn't see the feed. >> america feels zbliek i i have family members in mexico that's not fair to them. >> three major things the president needs to do. >> they are being openly racist on the network and laughing
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choons your own dr. and hospital starting at $199 or no matter how big the family only $529. that's $529 for the entire family. go to ignite your liberty.com. that's ignite your liberty.com. >> ladies and gentlemen, please welcome vince of the republican caller and ronna mcdaniel of the republican national committee. [ applause ] >> hello c pac. >> okay we can do better than that hello, c pac. >> hi. >> that's more like it. >>en any republicans out there
today? a can you believe. any daily caller readers making sure you are out there too. let's get started there ronna pch i want to get a show of hands. how many people consider themselves politically independent not a member of either political party? anybody? a couple. so the hands you see. and increasingly we see people identify as independents although conservative around the country. how do you get those people to join the republican party. >> well i think you tout the results of this administration. as people see 5 million new comes come to the country. as they have seen wichmann growth, a president who has brought manufacturing jobs back, unemployment at record lows for the hispanic and african-american communities. and you look at why is that? because we have cut taxes, cut regulation, making better trade deals. when you make the cases in justine talking points. this is being seen right now in realtime and action making our economy better, 4 the.6 million
people off food stamps. you can make the case. that's something we have on our side right now is the democrats are dealing in theory and pipe dreams. we can actually say, we put this into action and lives are better. >> i wonder how much the democratic party and democrats broadly have unintentionally helped your cause in the last few months? and why i ask that is i want to give you -- this is a not exhaustive loves. covington catholic high school. the jussie smollett. green new deal. conservatives assaulted in berkeley. aggressive late-term abortion bills in new york, virginia. democrat openly discussing letting babies die after birth. democrats caught wearing black face. democrats seefgt condemning demings for anti-semitism. calling border walls immoral calling for them to be torn down. why do they pay you? what's your job now? they're doing it for you. >> you have a media that's 93% negative against the president. we saw it yesterday.
this is what you see the next two years. ner braying the circus to town day after day with investigations and ridiculous committee hearings. because they don't want people to focus on the results that are making people lives better in this country. and yes, the democrats are giving us a lot of gifts right now. >> that's true. >> but alc we can't take her for granted. we can't the think that americans doesn't understand socialism. we have to talk about venezuela where 97% are beneath the poverty, no grocery in the stores. people eating dog food to survive. that's the path democrats take us down by promisesing free health care, free education. what will do is bankrupt our country turn us into socialistness np rashida tlaib. nancy pelosi, chuck schumer they are saying give the reins to us. we want to control everything. we want the government to make every decision, which means they want to make the decisions.
and we have to get out on educate. so everybody here we have to be out talking. and they try and shame us for being republicans. they try and make us afraid to speak. this is the time to be bold. we have to be out sharing our values and talking about these results, inviting people in into homes. because if we don't they will take our nation down to a path that we won't recognize our nation anymore. that's what's at stake. >> i think conservatives are speaking up based on all the things i mentioned people reacting. wait a second i know a country better than this. i want to talk to you about the american family for a moment. democrats increasingly i mentioned nuclear abortion supporters many display open contempt for christianity, judaism, and nobody care that is american birth rates have plummeted to incredible lows. does the republican party care about the restoration of the american family. >> of course we care about the
family. and i think the president one of the best things he has done on a bipartisan basis. you hear this later with van jones and matt schlapp. is the first steps act. that's about the family. you have people disproportionally pulled away from families for the mandatory sentences for non-violent crimes and unable to reunite husbands and wives and children. when you see ma malls charles leading bible study classes got a law degree in prison, who had a 35-year sentence disproportionate to his crime now in the community with his family, knows are the things the president does to help the family. also think about the 4.6 million people off the food stamps. what does that mean for a family? we talk about statistics all the time. think about what that means for somebody able to make a good wage as they've gotten a job and able to provide for themselves and what that's meaning for the children. that is what our party is about. and then of course the late term abortion. >> yes. >> it's not a late term abortion.
it's murder. it is murder what ralph northam talked about. and we need to speak about it in those terms. when you hear- when you hear a democrat saying let the baby be born, keep it comfortable while the doctor and the mother make a decision, that is murder. and what the democrats just did this week by not voting to protect children after they're born and take care of them, that is and despicable. we stand for life and humanity and treating people even the most -- the most vulnerable, a brand-new baby with the dignity and respect and care they deserve. that's what our party is about. >> and that issue -- apology is already showing that america is with you here, because a poll released the past week in a single month all of a sudden the
country is 8 or 9% more pro-life just like that because that issue has stuck out to them. >> this goes beyond pro-life, pro choice. there are people in the country who have different opinions on that. and we're going to disagree on that i'm pro-life. but let's talk about on a due date as a mother is giving birth saying that that's the time to terminate a pregnancy or not take care of a baby. that's reprehensible. and every american across party lines should speak out against it. but democrats have stayed silent. so beholden to planned parenthood and the progressive socialist wing of the party that they won't say that's wrong. and that's what they stand for. >> there is not much division in the republican party on that issue. but there is division on the next i want to ask about open borders. we hear democrats all for tearing down walls but the republican had majority control for two years under the trump administration and didn't get a
meaningful fix to the out of control broken immigration system during that time. so the question becomes, is the republican party beholden to the voters who put republicans into office or the big business interests who want to keep exploiting illegal immigrants at the expense of american workers. >> let's remember the house did pass a border package and they sent it to president and then the senate we're all aware you need 60 votes to pass that we had 51 seats at the time. that meant 9 democrats had to come across. so the democrats want to say you control the senate and the house. well, with the filibuster, with the 60 vote threshold even with 53 votes in the senate we need dmakts to pass the meaningful grimgts reports. joe manchin, democrats in the red states, doug jones because they know what their voters stand for. let's make no mistake we have a a crisis and emergency at the border and the president is exactly right to call this an
emergency. >> let's get into the business of the rnc. how many rnc staffers do you have tasked with looking into every single democrat to run for office. >> i can't reveal the trade secrets. but we are doing our homework. we are watching the democrats. boy their field gets bigger every day. so dpoited about beto o'rourke. did you hear he might announce? you know what his biggest accomplishment was losing to ted cruz. that's the big great hope. >> he did go to the dentist. >> he did. >> some credit. >> and he passed legislation to name a post office. that's what they pin the hopes on. he can skate board. give me a break. kamala hairs culling to get rid of private insurance plans. bernie sanders trying toout bernie bernie. they have gone so left, so socialist, we have our work cuttous for us because any say
things to millennials and getting on the college campuses and promising the moon and stars. it's the ultimate bait and switch it will destroy our country and we have to be bold talking to everybody and exposing the reality of the dangerous what have they are proposing. >> let me talk about another democratic presidential candidate. this is a gad opportunity for that. your uncle is mitt come romanny i should point that out. he was attacked for using the phrase bindersful of women. >> he was attacked for everything. big bird, bindersful of women they attack every woman. >> now we have a binder scandal. senator amy klobuchar and has admitted to throwing a binder and striking one of her own employees. additionally she has eaten a salad with a comb and had an employee clean it for her. if you mistreat employees does that disqualify you for higher office. >> it factors into the calculus of who is this person.
i have never met anybody who ate a salad with a comb. i think that's a little weird. i think her is to staff is coming out saying this is a person who wasn't kind, didn't treat us well. that factors into the calculus. but more concerning amy klobuchar and the democrats is what they are proposing for the country which will bankrupt our nation. it's so far left. and it's frightening. and it's going to be a choice. are we wanting capitalism? look at the great achievements off you are country, flight, cars, the internet, sorry al gore, the internet. none of that came from government, right. it came from innovation. it came from the greatness of america. re we live in the best country in the world. and it's because of our freedoms. and democrats want to take that away. they want to take it away. so this will be an election. do we want the american dream? do we want innovation in do we want individual liberty?
or do we want the government to tell us everything that we get, what we can do? do we want the power to be in washington in the hands of elected officials? that's what democrats want. this will be the most stark choice as to the future of our country. and we are the ones in this moment in this time tasked with fighting for our country. so everyone of us has to take the mantle on bus it's going to be a difficult election with lots of money and a media totally in the bag for the democrat party. >> all right. i realize you don't want to give away too much about plans against the democratic candidates but i'm asking a detailed question now you don't have to answer but here it is. >> have you hired any russians to help you investigate the democrats? and do you plan to give any of the research to the fbi so they can launch a far reaching investigation into political opponents after the election. >> isn't that amazing the fusion gps, the democrat national committee paid for the fake dossier .the unone thing you saw
from michael cohen's tomorrow who is going to jail for lying but let's bring him back because we think he will tell the truth. but he said he never went to prague. which was part of the fake dossier. who went to bruce oar. but the story not talked about right now is adam schiff needs to recuse himself from this investigation [ applause ] adam schiff had a private meeting with glenn simpson he didn't disclose to the committee. there is no reason he should be part of this and leading this investigation. and we should all be calling for his recusal from in investigation. >> let me ask you about the republican side of the aisle. you think about a democratic primary going on. but will president trump run unopposed in the gop primary? and what do you do if john kasich or larry hoggen jump in in. >> thech the right to jump in
and lose. they will lose horribly. the president has 93% approval in our party. our country is booming. jobs are coming back. wages are up. our military has been strengthened. veterans have been taken care of. our trade deals are stronger. we have put rule of law judges at every level of the courts, including the supreme court with kavanaugh and gorsuch. what would any republican be thinking saying this is a guy i'm running against. have at it go ahead waste money and time and go ahead and lose. >> all right. one of the things i've been hearing lately is that you've been advocating that people fight like a liberal. what does that mean. >> fight like a liberal -- i don't know what that means. >> really. >> that's your staff. >> that's my staff. >> well means just win i think that what you're going for. >> we're going to beat them. >> all right. >> i'm not taking anything for granted. we know and from an rnc
perspective we have staff on the ground in the battle-ground states. we have a website gop.com. please go volunteer. get involved. we know that the difference we can make is talking to neighbors. talking to friends. so many people aren't paying attention to what's happening. they have turned off the news because it's so negative. they are tired of the liberal spin. so we have to have the conversations. that's how we make a difference. and re-elect president trump in 2020. >> all right. let's talk about the rising stars of c pac. you brought rising stars with you to the rnc. >> we have 20 young men and women we have brought from across the country to c pac. rising stars. please stand up. 20 of them here today. where are you. >> they're out there. >> take a look. go -- go befriend them. these are people making a difference in our party. they are leaders. and they're doing an outstanding job. we give media training, giving them the tools to be leaders in
our party. you see people like candace owen, charlie kirk. we need more leaders like that. we need more young people. the rnc brought them here. go say hi to them. they have little badges on. you'll see them. but these rising stars are the future of the party and we need to mentor them and bring them into our fold. >> we're often told the democratic part is the party of young people. how does the republican party attract youthful support zbleers you go to college campuses. we have to get out to people who haven't heard from our party enough. we have to go to places where you don't think republicans are going to be. and you have to go to college campuses. en you got to say here is what democrats are saying. they are talking about free education and saying college will be free. we have kids who can't read right now in elementary schools. we have kids who aren't graduates from high school let's fix the education system we have right now and let's be
proponents for school choice so people aren't bound by the zip code to determine the type and quality of education they have. they are going to talk about about free health care. they want to take away your relationship with your doctor and your ability to make decisions. we don't want that. we want to you make a decision with your doctor. we think think the government is the best place to make decisions for health care needs. as we talk about these things with college kids and then say you're upset about the tuition on the campus, rates go pup. look who is running your school. look at the beard of trustees. look at the president they are all liberal. they are raising your rates and they are the ones governing your school. take them on. because near the ones who are making your college costs too high and not providing you with an education that will get you a job when you graduate. so you got to talk to the kids and educate them [ applause ] >> one of the democrats who is planning on jumping in is joe biden. >> oh, yeah. >> you're excited by the joe
biden announce zbloomt my husband said if joe biden were a superhero he would be gaffe man. he makes so so many snks. >> joe biden go ahead and run. run on your record of stagnant wages, of jobs leaving the country, manufacturing jobs fleeing the united states of america, of bad trade deals, of bad foreign policy. i mean, look at north korea. just one example. we have a president now finishing his second summit with kim jong un. he walked away rightly because he said we're not going to take away the sanctions if you're not going to denuclearize. but let's look what was happening under the obama administration. the last year of obama biden, north korea was firing missiles every 24 days. that's what was happening. president trump under his energies illustrate 458 days. he has increased the sanctions and the president has strengthened our country with his strong, strong support of
our military and his strong stance on the national stage. joe, biden please run on your record. we'd like to have that. >> thank you, ronna we really appreciate you this morning. >> thank you. thank you so much [ applause ] up . ♪ ♪ ladies and gentlemen, our next panel is deficit hawks an endangered species. tackle the debt before it tackles. please welcome senator damian
purdue. and moderator with heritage action for america. tim chapman. >> tim you're on the left. i'm over here. >> thank you. thank you all and thank you to the panelists for being here today. this really is an issue that is so important for our time but an issue that really is kind of taking a back seat these days. it's something that i think we as conservatives need to do a better job of figuring out how to communicate in terms of urgency to the american people. i'm excited to have a conversation the next 20 minutes or so with the panelists. i'd like to toss the first question to senator purdue. senator, as many you know is the only fortune 500 ceo in the senate. he understands the numbers, understands the immensity of the importance of this issue. i'd like to ask you, senator, to
kind of try to frame how important the issue and what the threats are that we are facing. >> well, thank you, tim. it's why i ran frankly. the debt crisis has been building the last 15 to 20 years. it's the greatest the threat to national security. i'll try to quantify it briefly. we have $22 trillion of total public debt qb clicked over that in the past two weeks. more draconian than that is the fact that we have $130 trillion unfunded liabilities coming at us in social security, medicare, pension for federal employees and interests on did the in the next 30 years. that's $1 million for every household in america. put it in perspective. the year 2,000 only $6 trillion on a $12 trillion economy. you can see the draconian growth in debt over the last 15 to 20 years. >> absolutely. michi, we all know that one of the keys to winning this issue
is being able to convince the next generation that this is something that's important. but it's really hard when you talk about the massive numbers to make it matter especially to young people talk about how you talked about it in the past. >> i think it's really important for folks to understand obviously the youth in america is really gb to be the ones saddled with the problems from a fisk the standpoint as the debt continues to grow it's is not just the 2 trillion number the senator mentioned. pits 180,000 per taxpayer in americana they owe on the debt today. that kind of number some homes can't afford to put the next meal on the table. let alone paying for all the spend nag has been out of control many years. >> absolutely. one of the frustrations that i think many of the people in this room have and that we have as conservatives is that we have had opportunities as a party as the republican party to tackle this and have failed to do so. i think back to -- i think back
to 2010 and the huge election in 2010 with the tea party wave. i remember the kind of contract with americana the party put forward going into that election. and the promise to the voter was that within the first 100 days we will cut $100 billion in federal spending. we got in and had some backtracking on that. the leadership decided let's not cut the 100 billion. we're prorating it for the amount of days we have been in session. it was insane. and that kind of stuff really frustrates and kind of in my experience dispirited our activist base. how do we reengage our activist base on the issue. >> let's talk about what we have accomplished since that water shed era. i was part of that. what we have done since then on discretionary spending -- i'm sorry my wife says i can bring any cocktail parties to its kneeing talking about this. we raise about $2.2 trillion in
frald tax revenue spend about 4.4 trillion mandatory all in mandatory and skrengsary spend and collect money into the trust faunds for social security medicare that's it. but the problem is today that our discretionary spend something about 1.3 to 1.4 trillion. flat compared to 2009. actually reduced spending in reals dollars. the grow is the in mandatory side, so the 3 trillion that doesn't get affected by the budget process. we are trying to change this. we do a budget that's a fraud. the budget in the united states federal government is in congress anyway only deals with the $1.3 trillion of discretionary spending not the mandatory spending. that's where the problem is. the growth in the debt over the next ten years is primarily in mandatory spending. it's so bad right now that we are borrowing more than our discretionary spending. which means that every dime we spend in our discretionary spending, military, va and all domestic programs is fundamentally borrowed money. it's so bad that we have these
bilateral defense agreements with the rest of the world. one of them is south korea. japan. taiwan. taiwan is a good am example. we have an agreement with taiwan that says if taiwan is invaded by china we have to go to taiwan and help defend taiwan against china but to do that we have to go to china and baier o the money to help defend taiwan against china. you can see how ludicrous that is. but that's the truth. that's why the crisis didn't -- dsh people say when did the crisis start? it started sometime about 5 to ten years ago when we set off this path on mandatory spending. >> yeah. and heritage action we have activists across the country. and one of the things that they really need and that we all want are things that we can support. tangible things we can support to make a difference. senator purdue has just introduced a resolution on the debt issue that i think is fantastic and is worth everybody looking at. i wonder if you take a few minutes to talk through what that does. >> well, resolution it doesn't do anything.
it tells the world we think this is important and we want to vote on it because we believe that the national debt, the $22 trillion of debt is a great threat to our national security. those aren't my words. that's general mattis. admiral rand. there are a number of military experts mo said for years that this growing debt is the greatest the threat to national security. but it's also a great threat on our social institutions. we can't do the right things for our people anymore because of the size of in debt. and the more interest rates grow, the lower capability -- well the fewer capabilities we have to do that. let let me show you how bad. in the two years last two years the interest alone while which maintained control on spending. interest rates have gone up $$450 billion. that's unmanageable and we are in a low quart i'll of interest rates. if they go back to the average we will spend a trillion dollars on interest. we physically can't do that. >> so one of the things that i
think many of you -- especially those of you on college campuses when you start to talk about in issue, i'd imagine that the first thing that gets thrown become in your face is -- is your liberal friends saying well look what's happened to the debt and deficit under this president. look at the tax cut and jobs act. michi take a crack at this and senator follow up. i'd love to hear how you encourage folks to respond. >> i think it's important to understand two things when we talk about how to talk about this issue with young people. first of all zet a destabilizing force. people can plan for as much as they want when they're young whether they want to marine for future, whether 80s family, it's a business, it's a loem, the debt can wipe out all of the planning in one minute. you just won't know. and the second thing that's important is we have to take the opportunity that we have to fix the problem. and the senator really brings up an interesting point. we are running out of capabilities to solve in issue as each day goes by. we're on a path right now where
there is a way out for congress to be responsible and the president has done some things to make sure that there is a way for spending policy from an administrative standpoint to be taken under control. but it's up to congress. they have the tools. they have the authority. and if they don't take the opportunity there isn't going to be a solution. one is going to be forced upon. and that's the young people suffering for that. >> let me take a stab at it. the president called this out in the first meeting he had that i was included in two weeks after being inaugurated he said job one is growing the economy. what do you need to grow the economy. one is to get people back to work but also to have the long-term impact on the debt process. there are five areas to work on. three under way right now under president trump that we don't talk about in a lot of ways but this is the reality of what we are doing. in the first meeting we said we had to grow the economy. regulations we pulled back over 2,000 regulations in two years. energy we released two mammoth
energy projects. such as today we are exporting more energy than we are importing. the first time in 100 years. the third is growing the economy. ladies and gentlemen this is the greatest economic turn around in u.s. history. 5 million knew jobs. growing the economy 100 basis points greating that than the obama kmeers. by the way that was eight years of lowest growth in u.s. history. we have the loafest unemployment. roest of course aen american, asian and hispanic unemployment ever measured. sos in moving in the right direction. and what we found is if you -- if you do the right things of what we believe you can get good results. energy, energy, taxes we pass add historic tax bill eliminating repatriation tax bill made the corporations competitive with the rest of the world. and last year alone a $100 billion of unreoperated u.s. dollars came back to the economy. we freed up shm 6 trillion to come back into the economy. the last thing is we passed a
historic bipartisan, by the way, bill to repeal the most onnerous parts of dodd-frank. i'm here to tell you, that has a profound impact op small banks. here is what's coming. we are working on threes three. the next one -- regulation we are going to grow the economy. fix the budget process. cut redundant spending where we can and a lot of that is in mandatory. but we have to save social security, medicare because the trust funds go to zeroen in eight oh are and 12 years that's where most of the increases in the next 10 to 20 years is coming from those two social programs. and the last, is we as a conservatives have to finally start the debate about health care costs, not just the insurance. that's what the distraction of obama li obamacare was. we need to talk about the drivers of health care which is causing medicare to go up. let me say this about the tax bill. the democrats lie about the tax bill. yes, expenditures -- i mean, the
debt is up. but we lowered the debt curve by $3 trillion because the economy is growing. you'll never read that in the liberal press. the next thing is i believe right now we have an opportunity to the continue that as the economy continues to grow. but the -- the tax bill that we passed last year -- they said it's adding 1.7 trillion of new spending. well that's true. except that the cbo congressional budget office says if you grow the economy one-half of one% we're doing twice that, it more than pays for that. and it you grow 100 basis points which is one point then you add $300 billion to the federal tax revenue. we are seeing that today. that's the lie of the left that all this investment back into american productivity and american innovation is not working. well it is working. we just got so much work to do. and most of it is on a mandatory expenditure side of our income statement. >> absolutely. absolutely. thank you for that. i would -- i would add one
thing. i would say that if you -- if you have that kind of conversation it is an opportunity to point out a deep principle, a very deep philosophical difference we have with the left. tax cuts were not the government's in money in the first place it was the people's money in the first place. and it's good we need that kind of contrast. we need that kind of contrast. i think we have an opportunity going forward here, especially given how -- how crazy the left has gone on the issues that they are proposing. specifically with the grown new deal proposal out there. i think we have an opportunity to contrast where they want to go in terms of debt and deficits and where conservatives want to go. and especially do that by highlighting how they intend to pay for the green new deal. i think there's been a few reports out lately about how they are going to do that. senator you want to talk through and then michi i want to hear you talk about it as well. >> jay powell was in the he can banking committee hearing two days ago. and i asked him the question
about how the left really proposes to pay for the new greendale, with mmtp this is modern monetary theory. i don't know where they got that. but the theory is that theory i doesn't matter and to pay for the green deal all you need to do is keep borrowing and borrowing. this is a naive thought in the world of debt that i can't even respond to it. this is so immature and naive that it just can't -- there's no way it can work. what we are really up against is a very stark contrast teen what we believe, economic opportunity for everybody, fiscal responsibility, limited government and individual liberty and it ties back, if we get back to those principles, president trump's first two years have proven getting back to that works. look at the economic turnaround we have going right now and if that continues for the next few years, we'll begin to further prove what we believe in actually works. >> michi, thoughts?
>> thank you. you know, the senator is right and we heard it this morning from chairman sh lap on stage and he talked about there's nothing new about the green new deal. these are the same failed ideas that have not worked for a long time. the only thing that's different now is they're just not telling you how much they think it's goings to cost because the number is so astronomical nobody is going to believe it. we have to be careful when talking to folks, young folks, that they're not tantalized by the allure of all these things they think they want and there's no cost in terms of how to pay for it. we have to give real solutions to the real problems of our debt and how that's impacting young people who want to start a business, who want to start a family, who want to be successful, who may want to be a fortune 500 ceo one day. they have to have that chance and they can't have it if they're not getting better solutions from our side and talking about it in a way that makes sense. >> let me add one thing. >> sure. >> this is -- agree 100%.
this is how draconian it is, the conservative estimate of what the new green deal would cost us, is $93 trillion, $9 trillion a year, put that in perspective, we collect $2 trillion in all federal income tax revenue today. that's how draconian this is. there is no way america can go down that road. >> absolutely. so one of the things we're working on at heritage action trying to identify a conservative policy agenda into 2020 that helps to keep the coalition of 2016 together. the political coalition that president trump discovered for the republican party is a coalition of suburban republicans, a coalition of grassroots conservatives and coalition of working-class americans that in previous elections had voted for president obama and that was the real genius of the trump campaign, i think, was to be able to bring that group into the fold. i think critical for us is figuring out how to communicate this issue to that segment.
senator, if you're in front of a working-class community in georgia, how are you talking about this? >> senator? >> i do it every week. constituents come up here and i go back to the states. it's numbers one issue in my state. georgia is the best place to do business rated by several relocation magazines. what we see is, if we don't deal with the debt it affects our ability to do the things we do today, pave roads, educate our children, manage health care. these are things we take for granted in the united states, but when you a $20 trillion, and by the way, 22 trillion dollars and a shortfall of $1 trillion, you lose the ability to do the right thing. let me give you an example, farmers in my state were devastated by hurricane matthew. we have been fooling around now for four months trying to get a disaster relief bill to them. i'm supportive of that, but here's the punchline and this is where it hits every one of us in this room head on and that is, that every dime we will send to aid those disasters that we're
trying to help right now is borrowed money. by the way, we want to build readiness in our military, putting $80 billion in our military this year, guess what? every dime we spend on our military today is borrowed money. this is how it hits you and me. you want to solve social security and medicare, well some of that is going to affect us in this room. it is not at this point to michi's point the later we wait to deal with this, the more draconian and onerous on the solution. >> absolutely. >> i would say when you look at people and you want to talk to them, no matter what side of the political spectrum they come from or the policy spectrum they come from, you know, these are real numbers. and they keep growing. we can't understand how big 2 -- $22 trillion is in real time but it keeps growing. it's important whether a farmer in georgia or, you know, someone in tampa, florida, where i'm from, who is starting a business, that all of these
numbers in the end are going to only matter if congress can do something and if the president is able to work with congress in a way to make sure that economic policies are expanding opportunities for americans, you're going to see that go down. federal revenues are up. the government is getting money. so the problem is, what are we spending it on and how do we make sure we can do it in a way that's responsible. >> absolutely. so we've run out of time. i ask one parting thought from the senator. a room full of activists and you're a leader in the senate on this issue. what do you need from the activist community across the country? >> hold elected officials accountable. the number one driving force in the bubble, i'm an outsider in the belly of the beast here. i believe in term limits, i ran and committed to two terms. [ applause ] i believe that we, you and i, can have an impact on this town, but we have got to maintain
accountability of the people that we put in office. don't put people in office if they're not qualified or keep people in office if they're not doing the job. it's no more complicated than that. >> ladies and gentlemen, thank you. please thank the panelists. [ applause ] ♪ ♪ >> ladies and gentlemen, this is a conversation with secretary elaine l.choa and rick perry, hosted by quantum communications, charlie gerow.
>> he messed it up. >> no. >> good morning. >> we've got explicit directions on how to come out, but it's really different when you get out here and see all of this. >> i had elaine -- >> what a great gathering. >> i had elaine appropriately on the far right. >> cpac just continues to get better. and as you know, we have two of the finest cabinet officers in the history of this nation with us this morning, secretary of energy rick perry and secretary of transportation elaine chao. >> thank you. [ applause ] >> we were very limited in our time this morning. madam secretary and mr. secretary, let's get right to it. in a lightning round fashion, let's talk about the economy. what's the current state of the united states economy? >> well, i'll give you a phrase,
it's stronger than garlic. >> a few extra words but i like that. >> best than it's been in a long time. >> so to the serious part of the conversation, it didn't just happen. what have been the things that have made the economy so strong, so vibrant, and continuing to grow? >> well, obviously the tax bill that was passed, and i think there's this mentality out there, small businessmen and women we always tell people when i was back in my home state of texas doing economic development -- [ applause ] >> that capital goes where it's welcome. the trump administration has clearly sent the message all across the country and around the globe that your capital is welcome in america. so you're seeing people have this concept, this idea, this feeling that we can risk our capital, we can put that out there and because of the regulatory climate which, you know, you've addressed,
secretary, over at the department of transportation, removing those permitting hurdles and all of that, so taxes, regulation, and just the mentality that you can risk your capital v a chance to have a return on the investment. that's what president trump and his administration has done. >> absolutely. in 2009 with the onset of the recession it was fairly deep, and generally speaking when the economic times go into a doldrums that deeply, the economy bounced back pretty quickly. in that particular case, it didn't come back quickly. in fact the economy took a long time to come back because of the regulatory burdens that were imposed on the economy by the previous administration that had an actual serious impact on job creation. >> we had a 1.5% economic growth
the last year of the obama administration. how did we do the first year of the trump administration? i mean it's remarkable what tax reform and regulatory reform can do. both of you have been recognized as leaders in regulatory reform and regulation is a tax. >> absolutely. >> what have been the things that you specifically have done and what's left on the agenda? >> well, obviously the lng growth, we're now in the 34 countries on five continents that america lng is going into. making that regulatory climate, you know, a hurdle that is easier to cross. here's the rules, we need to have rules and what have you, here's the rules and your permit. it ought to be that easy. i will say one thing that has slowed us a little bit, getting the nominations, you know. our friends on the democrat side have not been quite as helpful as we might like for them to be from the standpoint of getting
our nominations through. furk still has a couple openings that could be really important. get those done, billions of dollars worth of projectses are going to get approved at furyk to allow our national resources to be moved all around the world. >> i would like to pick up on that point. because i don't know how many of you know that there's not one department in the whole federal government that is fully staffed up in terms of non-career leadership. >> we've been there two years. >> yeah. at the labor department where i was secretary of labor, secretary acosta has seven nominees on the senate floor, i have four nominees, it's not the senate majority leader's fault, i want to make that very clear. >> or you'll chat with him. >> there might be a little pillow talk going on. >> it's not his fault. it is the deliberate policy of the senate minority leader to
slow up the nominations of this administration by invoking cloture at every single step of the nomination's process on the floor so that if you are a nominee, you have to go through 30 hours of cloture to get your nomination on the floor and then 30 hours of cloture for your nomination to be voted upon. so that is an incredible amount of time that has to be spent and every single nominee, which is why there's such a backlog of more than 160, 180 nom nagsz for this administration. >> on the regulatory side what's left to be done and how big a role is innovation going to play in resolving the problems that regulation has been designed to take care of previously? >> well, hopefully there's not going to be a substantial amount of work that needs to be done
from the standpoint of removing regulations. there will still be some and certainly we won't get them all done, but from the standpoint of innovation, and i'm not going to talk about innovation from a sense of what it's going to do on the regulatory front, the department of energy is -- i tell people, look, the deal we ought to stand for the department of everything, i mean we're involved in so many things. sure, the energy industry, whether it's fossil fuels or the renewables or the nuclear side of things, hydro, all of those types of things that we're working on and making good progress on, whether it's in the advanced nuclear reactors or in continuing to push america forward as a leader in the civil/nuclear energy side of things, but we're doing things on the medical front that the vast majority of the people of america have no idea we'd be involved in. let me give you one example. in the area of traumatic brain injury, we've been working for
the last two years in putting some programs together, somebody says wait, whoa, what are you over doe being involved in traumatic brain injury and post-traumatic stress for? because we operate five of the ten fastest super computers in the world at the department through our national labs, so these super computers are giving us the ability, working with some other folks, like the university of california san francisco, and their school of neuroscience, entrees into being able to manage information and put data in and get answers back that we never have been able to do before. jeffrey manly, neurosurgeon, at the university has said that he's finding more answers on brain science in the last ten months than he has in the last ten years. [ applause ] i mean this is the type of innovation that american taxpayers want to see with their dollars. for instance, he's come up with a device, about the size of an ipad, little bit thicker, take
one drop of blood put it on a slide, put it in the side of this device and they're able to tell whether or not that patient has been concussed within ten minutes. you think about the impact that has for traumatic brain injury in an automobile accident, on the battlefield, a soccer mom whose child has been concussed and they're really worried about is my child going to be affected long term here, what -- make sure i send him to the right hospital to get the right treatment. that's the type of innovation that you're seeing at the department of energy using some of our super computing capacity. i mean i'm excited about the future of what's happening out there. this administration is pushing that type of technology forward. technology that is showing real results for the taxpayers of this country. >> secretary chao, what do things look like at transportation? >> the president actually is -- started this whole thing by
coming out very early in early february 2017, asking that for every new regulation that is implemented or promulgated there will be two regulations that will be withdrawn. just in the department of transportation alone, in tprevi administration, more than $3 billion annually in increased regulatory costs came out of the department. this is just one department out of the whole federal government. so you can imagine the regulatory burds than was being imposed on our economy. the president comes in and in february he issues this new eo which requires withdraw two regulations for every one. i'm very pleased to say that in a very responsible way, the department of transportation has withdrawn 46 regulatory actions and we have -- [ applause ]
>> how many yet to go? >> we're looking at 100 more. >> 100 more. [ applause ] >> doesn't it scare you there's so many. we do it in a very responsible way. unnecessary burdensome regulations. on the innovation front, six years ago, actually three years ago, america was number six in the whole commercial space sector in the world. this is before the president came into office. in the last three years we've made incredible spridss, the last two years incredible strides where america is now once again number one in the commercial space launch sector. [ applause ] >> secretary perry one of the things the good lord has blessed us with is trillions of cubic feet of natural gas beneath our feet. as a pennsylvanian, we just became the number two producer of natural gas in the united
states, i can't quite recall who's number one but somewhere on the mexican border and i heard they had a hell of a governor, other parts of the united states, notably in the northeast, there are utilities cutting off service or not extending service because there's no gas. we had russian gas coming into boston instead of u.s. gas. what can be done about that? >> yeah. let me address the innovation side of 15 years ago, there were people telling us we had found all the natural resources, peak oil, tlremember that speech, because of american innovation and private sector was not strangled, a guy by the name of george mitchell who came up with a concept of hydraulic fracturing and working with some national labs back in the early to mid 2000s, they came up with the ability to keep the poly carbonate bit on the drilling bits and you had the directional
drilling, you put those two together and that's been the innovation that's allowed this extraordinary innovation. the sad thing is, not all americans are getting to enjoy that because of some bone-headed political decisions that are made from time to time, sorry, my word, in this case new york, which won't allow those pipe lines to transverse. you know, there's two utica, a utica new york and utica, pennsylvania. >> wow. >> and you go to pennsylvania, northern pennsylvania, which i think you know a little bit about, and there's a real renaissance going on there. because they have allowed for the development of their natural resources. the jobs that have been created, all of the quality of life that comes with that. plus they're delivering to the american people a clean burning fuel, lowering the emissions from the older, inefficient plants we had.
across the border into new york, it may look like old-time poverty that we've, you know, hoped we had gotten past in this country, but because of policies that are being put in place in albany, new york, those citizens and jeopardizing one of the most important financial centers in the world, if we have a polar vortex that comes into this country, and new york does not have the diversity of power to be able to keep the power on -- i mean you get a 10-day, two week cold snap where it is really, really cold and you could see the loss of power to one of the most populated cities in the world, the chaos that would ensue. the president of the united states, he understand that we
can't afford that. that we have to have a diversity of supply. that's the reason he wants to see clean cu type coal technology, nuclear technology, in place, our natural gas being able to be delivered in this country, nuclear power all will be needed in the fewer and the states that limit that because of their political concerns, jeopardize their future of their citizens. not just economically, but literally i would suggest jeopardizing their lives. >> secretary chao, i think we all recognize that infrastructure is so vitally important to both store and transport the energy supply. for example, lng, vitally significant, what is your department doing to move that forward and make those supplies readily available? >> like so many of these federal
departments they have such jurisdiction. the department of transportation actually regulates safety, certifies the safety of the pipelines and so we want to make this a process whereby we are facilitating the energy independence so -- of america so we have actually signed and worked very closely with furk, with the chairman, because they are -- they don't have enough commissioners on helping to reform the permitting process so that it is not so onerous and incomprehensible at points with the whole emphasis on common sense, safe delivery of lng through pipe lines. >> very good. out on the left coast, governor newsom has announced that the people's republic, the state of california, is canceling their high-speed rail project, but they're not going to return the federal funds that have been involved there. what are you prepared to do
about that? >> you know, you would be amazed, so many of these contracts were signed on january 16th, 17th, 18th, 19th, and the morning of 2017. these are contracts which we cannot abrogate, but this particular contract was for a high-speed rail between los angeles and san francisco with spurs going to sacramento and san diego. it was originally supposed to cost $40 billion. what they did was, decrease the footprint, but then the costs mushroomed to $77 billion. so they've decided to decrease the footprint again, so now the only path that this high-speed rail goes through is between mersed and bakersfield. those of you who come from california those are two relatively, small, rural communities. they have substantially changed
the terms and conditions of this contract. we have still $929 million which we have yet to give, obviously with the project so radically different than what was proposed additionally, we will not give $929 million out. [ applause ] >> go ahead. finish up. >> and on the $2.5 billion that has been given with, sadly, very little results, we have given the state of california time until march 5th to make their case because we are very conscious about the process, but clearly this is a classic example of bait and switch and on behalf of the american people, and our concern with doing our fiduciary responsibility, we have a right to ask for that $2.5 billion back as well. [ applause ]
>> secretary perry, i know you wanted to make a comment about infrastructure development and how vitally important that is following up on secretary chao's remarks about transportation and lng in particular. >> even though there are some states that are making some bad decisions, the bulk of this country is very pro-u.s. energy, pro-u.s. resources being not only moved into the united states to the various markets, but also for export reasons. the united states is now the number one oil and gas producing country in the world. [ applause ] in the next two years, we will see a 150% increase in our natural gas production. the bulk of that will be leaving the shores of the united states, for markets around the world. what that allows us to do from a geopolitical standpoint, can't be overstated.
the idea that the united states can go to central europe and share with the central european citizens that they no longer have to be put in a position of being held hostage by russian gas, the ukrainians will share with you that the russians will cut your gas off from time to time, to send a message. so the united states is in a position like they've never been in before from the standpoint of being able to supply a form of energy that not only helps them lower the emissions, but also to give them the security from the standpoint of being held hostage by countries that don't necessarily have their best interest in mind. >> ladies and gentlemen, would you please join me in thanking secretary elaine chao and secretary rick perry for their leadership, for their commitment, and for doing each day those things which are making america great. >> thank you, charlie.
how you guys? well, we are really glad to be here. my name is allie stuckey. i host a podcast called relatable where we analyze the intersection of news and faith, politics and culture, and we're going to be talking about, as you heard, about the importance of faith to politics. they're probably going to give a little bit more of a historical perspective than i am. i will probably approach it from the place where millennials and generation z is, christian faith and the importance of perpetuating that for the next generation and we'll kind of talk about what that is in relation to liberty and in relation to our rights, but what it means on a personal level as well. that's who i am. i'll pass it along. >> great. well, great to be with you. i'm with hillsdale college. anybody from hillsdale there? these are probably my students.
matthew spalding. i'm based here in washington, d.c., at our d.c. campus. hillsdale college is a little place in southern michigan, but it's got a great history which helps us with this discussion because it's a nondenomination christian college, but it's also based on the idea that civil and religious liberty necessarily go together. and what we believe, which i think is consistent with the american tradition, is that the essence of american exceptionalism, what makes america different, is this idea unlike other regimes based on mere tradition or history, we make a claim about ideas and those ideas are grounded in nature and those are the source of our rights and that is the thing that defiance our constitution. when you put all those things together it points us towards our liberty generally as we express ourselves and there's human flourishing and a central
part of that for throughout our history and central to liberty is the idea of religious liberty. that is crucially important and i think we need to come to understand that or else we're going to lose that liberty. >> very important. my name is james lankford, the united states senator from oklahoma, and i have a little bit of a different perspective be. how many do we have in the place? quite a few. i come from a little different perspective. i was 22 years in youth ministry before i came into congress. knowing that a youth pastor is now a member of congress, either encourages you or terrifies you, depending on your experience with your own personal youth pastor in your own church in the background. that's the perspective i come from. i have people that will catch me and say you used to be in a ministry position, but now you're in congress and now you need to set aside your faith because you're in a secular role and make sure you represent
everyone and not talk about faith anymore. faith was your previous life and now this is the new life. i enjoy smiling them and say i need to introduce you to a document called the united states constitution. article 6, not the sixth amendment, article 6 of the constitution says there's no religious test for any officer of the united states whether a mayor or whether you're a member of congress or whether you're on the school board, whatever you may be, any officer of the united states, any official, doesn't have a religious test. that means you don't have to have a certain faith or take your faith off if you have a certain faith or turn your faith off. for me -- [ applause ] i enjoy getting in this dialog because i've done something audacious enough that i've tried to keep who i am. we have people that come to washington and change and i've told people if you're asking me to set aside my faith you're asking us to do what most detest, to become something you're not when you come to d.c. i believe that a person can live their faith and to be able to
practice that is a part of their ongoing dialog. not only do i believe that i think that's essential to have respect of someone sitting next to you that says i choose to live my faith, their right to live theirs, but we live in a unique country where you can have a faith, practice your faith, change your faith or have no faith at all and it's all as an honored part of our liberties. we're going to do something a little different -- [ applause ] we're having a panel discussion but there's no moderator. my comment with that is, there's no moderator because there are no moderates at cpac, so we're going to just have open dialog in this conversation to be able to have a free-flowing dialog about faith and liberty, historical and current perspective and political perspective. we're going to do grand exsneermts ye experiment. >> yes. >> i was going to ask, you talked about the importance of integrating your faith, if that's part of who you are and
identity to what you do, if you're a congress person or in an elected position, but we hear a lot that the kind of go to reputation of that is, well separation of church and state. we're hearing that a lot particularly with the cross that's memorizing the world war ii soldiers that have fallen, separation of church and state. this is the issue. and like you said, can i introduce you to the u.s. constitution. apparently a lot of people haven't read that. i would like one of you to give the historical perspective, seems to be a lot of misunderstanding, particularly from our friends on the left, people my age, that think separation of church and state means you can't talk about your faith in a public price. >> massive confusion about this. first let me point out, i know what you mean when you say the historical perspective, but it's not the historical perspective. it's the correct perspective. >> right. >> the accomplishment of this country which makes it great, the greatest country in the world, is what they accomplished and one of the greatest accomplishments was this idea of
religious liberty that didn't exist in the ancient world and doesn't exist in large segments of the current world and liberalism is taking us down that path again. a lot of confusion comes from the idea the separation of church an state from a letter that jefferson wrote, the original meaning of that i think is closer to the broad founders meeting, but the problem is the supreme court in the 20etth century took it in another direction, a radical separation and never a cross between those two things back and forth. they meant to separate the doctrinal question, churches don't tell politics what to do and the government, the law making body, does not tell churches what to believe. that is the essence of religious liberty and why we have liberty in this country. it doesn't mean you separate politics and religion. separating church and state at the highest level invites liberates religion, liberates us
to live our faith, to flourish in the faith and have free exercise as it says in the constitution. so this separation which is now understood in a much more radical way, was meant by the american founders to encourage religion because ultimately self-government requires religion to not only moderate our passions and character, but provide a transcendent understanding of moral truth that's necessary to define liberty itself. >> a modern and historical on it. the modern side of it, trinity lutheran case from the supreme court which was really a case that almost no one noticed and it was this situation where a church group was getting scrap tires from the state of missouri, they had a scrap tire program to be able to put on the playgrounds there and if your little rug rats were going to scuff their knee they can do it
on mulch or scrap tire, which i assume they take the steel belts out, i've never asked them from there. they put that down there and offered it to any non-profits. a church group requested that and the state of missouri said, you're a faith group, you can't have this, you can't partner with government to get it. the church group did something most groups would never do and they argued it all the way to the supreme court. the supreme court then ruled on this and overwhelming decision saying no, you can't go to a group and say you can partner with your own government as long as you surrender your faith first. a big decision that came out on it. [ applause ] what that -- it's being unpacked by this administration is trying to spread that into every grant opportunity, every agency be. faith-based initiative leaders in all agencies, are we doing anything as a government that's telling people of faith no, you can't participate with us because you have faith. if so, that's got to go away because people of faith have to
be treated the exact same way as people of another faith or no faith. if you want to go all the way back and get a good historical piece as well, james madison kind of a semi famous guy, 1792, woe wrote a short paragraph, google in, james madison property 1792. it's a short piece that he wrote on private property. that term that we hear all the time about your home is your castle, he references that in 1792 but also says not only your home your castle but your religion, your faith is your most intimate castle, your most intimate piece of property and government does not have the right to come invade your castle nor do they have the right to examine invade your most private castle, your religious faith as well. it's a big deal we've looked at for a very long time. >> can i add a point to that. >> yeah. >> so absolutely correct, and i like that.
think about it in even simpler terms. >> not saying it was complicated. >> think about it in terms, when we read the declaration of independence and the idea that all men are created equal and this is grounded in nature a source of our rights. we talk about liberty and rights a lot. so does the left. the fundamental question, what's the source of the rights. what's behind that. >> right. >> and the beauty of the deck e declaration, you can understand it as a philosophical and theological question. you read it and you can't understand liberty as they understood it and we as conservatives understand it, without an idea there is transcendents. any time you deny that, which is to say you recognize the possibility that man could be god. >> yes. >> whether you're george iii and your divine monarch or mau in china, it leads to what? tyranny. unless liberty understand
itself, we understand liberty is not merely being us, but something beyond us that is greater than us, that is a higher justice, that we cannot here create, that moderates our politics and allows all this to be possible, and if you lose that understanding, that foundation of what liberty means, you're going to start going down that road towards a reshaping of man, like the communists or the socialists want to do, or a decadent decline of the culture that has no meaning. people are looking for it and it's not there anymore. >> and it's really the genius behind c.s. lewis' moral law giver argument that other people have reiterated in different ways, the idea that everyone believes, everyone on earth, it's this thing that has stumped secular sociologists all the time, people of different cultures and different parts of the world share this idea of a
higher moral law, this some idea of a human right and some things are wrong, some things are in violation of a human right even if we disagree on the manifestations, everyone agrees there are some things you're born with, yet even the people who say they're proponents of rights, proponents of liberty, sometimes tdeny there is a transcendent force giving us those things. i found it to be important with my generation who insists that everything is a right, even privileges are rights, and many times millennials are religious, the largest generation, to start with the rights argument and say do you believe that some things are right and wrong. do you believe that you have tlitsz you were born with. president trump shouldn't be able to take away. that gets a resounding yes from most millennials. back up from there and say why? where does it come from? typically it gets people to think, why do you believe in human rights?
why do you believe that there are some things that are just wrong, some things we're just -- are just right. if you truly just believe in survival of the fittest, and truly just believe in natural selection, you have no right to say that someone stealing from you is wrong or doing whatever advances your own interest is wrong, but something in us that says no. there is a righteousness that exists, a drive in us for justice, and it's important for us to think about that. so often we claim everything is a right, everything is a right, even the privileges, without thinking well what are rights, where did our rights come from, is there existence of absolute truth. these are really fundamental questions that at one point a lot of people agreed on. unfortunately with post-modernism that is pervading academia and different parts of our culture we start to question the existence of truth. you said that only works for so long. people do desire meaning, they do desire truth and morality and
you see, i think, a shift back in towards the direction of people seeking truth. >> i think one of the stakes conservatives made is a move the left wanted to make is we start with rights and we always go there first in our conversations. what we should do and you've said is, really the first question is, what does its mean to be human. that's a different question. what does it mean to be a flourishing human being and required for that. liberty is required. liberty to do what? it asks a different series of questions. the declaration tells us we have the right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. what does that mean to pursue? we are naturally drawn towards going towards something. happiness, of course the great classical objective of human life. and they all understood that means a complete happiness which leaves open the possibility and
actually points us towards the possibility of coming to understanding that happiness as a fulfillment in a bia tiffic vision, understanding god and knowing those truths. if there's no truth beneath our liberty, whether it's the laws of nature or nature's god, there's no grounding for it. we're subject to the arbitrary dictates of the supreme court or are rights are merely a gift of government. the claim that we limit government, i tell my limited government friends, the claim of limiting government, depends first upon having the idea that the rights that government is meant to secure do not come from government. and you need an outside source. >> right. >> and there are plenty of arguments from a long tradition of western civilization. the great explained by these great thinkers and great books, and there's also a very long
theological tradition and at certain points in time and history they come together in a beautiful way and one of those, i think, is in the almost providential moment of the american founding in which those two things come together to battle together to create this liberty, but a liberty that allows for economic flourishing, personal flourishing, individual liberty, but also a protection and an encouragement of this divine thing in man which is to seek and pursue these higher truths. >> we haven't always gotten it right as a culture and we're struggling as a culture again currently. there are a whole group of people who say you can have a faith, leave it over there. just don't bring it out of your house. or they'll have a faith designation or denominational designation and almost like a membership in a club to them. they really don't participate
and really don't go, they really don't engage. it's not meaningful in their lives. i have this particular label whether it be republican, democrat, independent, conservative, liberal, whatever, they have that label and this label as well. one of the greatest challenges we have to religious liberty in this modern day, people that actually claim a faith that don't live their faith as odd as that may be. having a culture that is a vibrant culture of faith where people not only have a faith but choose to live it, matters in our culture. i tell people all the time, if you have a faith -- [ applause ] live your faith. people that only pract their faith on weekends, i try to remind them things you only do on weekends are called a hobby. >> right. >> okay. that's not a faith. a faith permeates everything you do. it affects how i treat my wife, my children, it affects my relationships with other people and it affects how i disagree with people that are clearly wrong because they disagree with me. we have all this dialog but i treat them different because that person is created in the
image of god and have value and worth. it affect mice life but as people can honor religious liberty more when a person lives their faith out. this is something we have struggled with in our current modern day, but go back to the founding we struggle at the beginning as well. as a baptist, baptists were kicked out of most of the colonies early on because they weren't accepted as that. almost every colony early on had a designated religion for that colony. if you weren't that religion you're not welcome in this colony. it was the birth of the nation and our constitution when our founders determined time out we're not going to be like other nations. we're not going to designate certain faiths. we're going to take this risk and challenge people to have a faith, live their faith, or it doesn't have to be the same faith as the ruler of what they've experienced in the past and we're at our best when we choose to live our personal faith out and to live it publicly, privately, but sin veerly. >> yes. i would say that -- i'll give
you an applause for that as well. it's okay to be a christian. we're told unless you actually believe what the bible says. >> unless you live it. >> or unless you do it. >> teach it or live it. you're allowed to do the parts about serving the poor, you're allowed to do the parts that are culturally acceptable, but as soon as you believe something that's counter to the culture it's not okay that you're a christian and you're not really a christian, you're just a bigot now. what you said is so spot-on and encouraging for people to hear because it can be very scary. i mean we saw with jack phillips, the colorado cake baker when he decided to manifest his faith through his business, he made his life really hard and most of us look at something like that and we're like, are we really willing to risk it all for something like that? it would be a lot easier if we kept our faith quiet or private or culturally convenient. a lot of people say, i've heard people say, you know, i just
want to be accepting of other people so i don't really want to talk about my christianity that much or don't want to push my views on other people. what i found, even in my own life, i'm not really silent or i'm not really quiet about my faith because i want to be accepting. it's typically because i want to be accepted. as christians that's fundamentally not what we're called to do. it is supposed to infect or pervade every area of our lives and that's the kind of faith that converts. that's the kind of faith that changes lives. that's the kind of faith that changes cultures. we've heard religion is dying out. religious nunns are higher than there have ever been. people that don't identify with their religion. it's not true. there are more religious nunns than before but 95% of the people who identify as religious nones came from a faith which they were ap pathetic. it was a weekend faith, not a daily kind of faith, the faith
that's growing in this country and throughout the world is the kind of faith that captures your whole life. the kind of faith that as christ says you defy yourself take up your cross and follow him. that's the kind of faith and particularly the christianity that's growing throughout the world even in places like china. [ applause ] don't be discouraged by people who tell you that you should stay quiet because your religion and faith is dying out anyway. it's not. >> when you said religious -- >> not catholic nunns. sorry. nones. sorry for the confusion there. >> great point. the other thing i worry about, this is especially true with young people, is that they see the world as being unfriendly to their faith and they want to pull out of that and you know, into their own communities. there's a large movement within conservatism to do this. i think that's problematic as
well. as i like to tell my friends, you might not be interested in government, but government is always interested in you. >> yes. >> that's the problem. >> right. >> so i think we need to not only encourage people to express their faith and become stronger in their faith, but that they have to be focused outward, especially now more than ever. we do not have a limited government and with a very large bureaucratic administrative state that regulates everything in our lives, you have more and more opportunities for all the things we've talked about here. the bureaucratic authority within the modern administrative state which congress has given away to the executive which the current executive is trying to pull back, but it's all still there, endorsed by the supreme court, is extremely problematic. so we can't isolate ourselves in local communities hoping that this is going to go away. >> right. >> the current administration is
doing a great job of appointing good judges. the system looks like -- and the supreme court looks like it's going to pull back on some of these things after a long period of being very hostile. that's not going to be enough. we can't disengage and can't leave it to other people and from the point of view of our faith well, need to be engaged and outwardly focused. but from the point of view of being a good citizen, i think we also have to be engaged and protecting those liberties. we need to be actively involved, especially those who have a very strong faith. >> you can travel anywhere in the world and i can show you an open, thriving democracy, where it's economically prosperous, almost always there's also religious liberty there. there is some dialog here at a conference like this to say this is really a conference about freedom, liberty, economics, all those things as well, but the core base that we began with more than two centuries ago is this acknowledgement that people
are able to truly live free that are also able to also practice their own faith. many, many countries around the world as you mentioned earlier, matt, they don't have the opportunity to be able to do that. they have to have the faith or non-faith of the leader or born of a certain faith prohibited from ever changing their faith. that is the norm in most parts of the world. this actually is going backwards. many countries are putting in nonconversion laws around the world they say we're going to fight off terrorism or dispute and sometimes religions actually have dispute with each other and the way to be able to do this is prohibit people from ever converting from one religion to another. that is popping up in nations all over the world. we as a nation should push back on that. we as a nation should celebrate the fact that i can live my christian faith and i would no problem walking down the street and seeing a person, recognizing that person as an american whether they have a yam ma ka, a nun's habit or a hijab on to
understand as i walk through the dialog we live in a country that allows that. to be comfortable enough in my faith to not be intimidated by someone else's faith but the moment that i press down on someone else's faith, i might as well be the russians pressing down on those jehovah witnesses right now, or certain countries prohibiting anyone from doing missionary work. we're watching the push back of faith and we cannot do that. we're a country of liberty. and we need to be able to both live out our faith and honor the rights of other people to be able to live their faith. >> one of the most objection -- [ applause ] >> one of the most objectionable presidential statements in much of my mature life -- >> in a long list of -- >> a long time was when the previous president said that oh, american exceptionalism, every country thinks they're
exceptional. modern liberalism has as its objective to break down, aggressively attack or undermine through the schools, the notion that somehow there's something different about america, but that's crucial to understand. much of the reason we have problems in the middle east is precisely because the middle east has not gone through and had the type of moderate enlightenment of the establishment of the rule of law that happens in america. that's no mere coincidence. >> yeah. >> the idea we're going to go out into the world and not uphold this system, not merely as spreading economics in the world, but spreading the framework you can have a flourishing and healthy culture, which includes the protections of religious liberty at its most, deepest, at its deepest core, boggles the mind and yet that's what this argument about america that you're getting from a lot of the culture in media
elites and intellectual elites, is telling you that the differences between different nations and different regimes and ideas is about a matter of moral relativism and we should step back and stop asserting our ideas and we need to stand up and say, no, we love this country, we love america, not merely because it's america and it's our country, but because they have accomplished something great in the world and we've got something to tell the world and we shouldn't be ashamed about that. >> yes. i also want to say that -- i want to clap for that too. that was good. [ applause ] i want to say it's not necessarily -- so a lot of times in this country people on the right or left, there are people who say secularism or the denial of religion even that repressing of religion will lead to more freedom and lead to more tolerance and more inclusion. obviously that's an ironic statement in and of itself but there's actually another religion that is taking over and that is dominating that's not a lack of religion, it's a new
religion of post-modernism of moral relativism. the statement that there is no absolute truth is in and of itself an absolute truth. we cannot escape it. the people who say you have to keep your faith at home, we can't tolerate religion, that's going to create a more tolerant society, actually have dawned the religion of social justice and dawned the religion of progressivism where intersectionality is one of their key doctrines and politics is part of their worship. what we're seeing is not this advancement of atheism or secularism, it's the religion of progressivism and moral relativism that says this is the religion that needs to dominate in order for us to be tolerant. what we've seen throughout history and already seeing now is that progressivism is not a tolerant religion. any religion that does not tolerate the existence and does not act in kindness towards other religions can't be seen as tolerant even though that's
really the brand that the religion of progressivism gets. >> well said. but it actually in an odd way makes our point. it proves our point. which is man very naturally yearns to know certain things. >> yes. >> it's drawn towards -- >> true. >> these ideas. government, especially but modern culture, has tried to push religion into a smaller and smaller box. you got to keep it at home or keep it in the confessional. but as a result, a lot of people, especially young people r still yearning to find something and they want to know that truth. which unfortunately draws a lot of people into not only crazy ideas like the environment is the new god, but also drives them to despair because they don't see answers out there in a way that i think our system was intended to provide so that there would be these flourishing religions and churches and
opportunities to do these things to find that truth. >> right. at the end of the day, our faith matters. we choose to live out our faith and be able to practice that. it does have an effect not only on our nation and our culture and our neighborhoods, and we should choose to be able to live that out in the way that matters. i always get the joy of being able to look at someone of faith and saying, live your faith. our culture will not be turned around by government, our culture will be protected as we acknowledge from the very beginning our rights come from god, it's what has made our rights separate and unique and our culture will be preserved by people who live by god's grace and by god's leadership. thank you. >> amen for that and thank you. >> amen. thank you. >> thank you for allowing us to have the conversation. [ applause ]
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