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developed in the late 1950s. air travel is replacing automobile and train travel. so it was the jet age, the space age and kennedy grabbed onto it and made it the cornerstone of the new frontier. >> sunday night at 8:00 eastern on cspan's q and a. a number of heissues including brexit and humanitarian aid to venezuela. he spoke about economic
considerations if the border was supposed to close. >> let me guess, we are on the record? >> all right. great. thank you. >> just fire away? >> i will introduce you and then -- >> okay. >> and you can make brief opening remarks if you would like. good morning. i'm the washington bureau cheer. our guest today is director larry kudlow. welcome. >> thank you. >> i think i'll skip the bio i think everybody knows who mr. kudlow is. i'm sure he is remembered for his somehow on cnbc, the kudlow
report. it has been a year since mr. kudlow was to served as national economic counsel. we are delighted to have him here today. now for the ground rules no live blogging or tweeting. no filing of any kind while the breakfast is underway. no embargo when the session ends at 10:00. we will e-mail pictures from this to all reporters here as soon as the breakfast ends. as many of you know if you would like to ask a question send mae signal and i will call on you as time permits. >> i don't have much to say at the opening. we are always worried about the health of the american economy. it is our primary job and so
forth. things are looking up. i'm just happy to see good numbers coming in. we have sloppy winner and sloppy seasonal adjustments and sloppy government shutdowns and numbers i noticed the atlanta fed is gdp is up to 2.1 for the first quarter. that was 0.3. if you add on that is for the last eight years we may actually be hovering around 3%. i like the reports very much. profits look good and cap goods looks okay. i think that our plan of lower tax rates and -- not for me, thanks. and deregular lace and opening up energy and trade reform will
continue to be the building blocks of the trump administration. i think it is working. we had 3% last year. we see the inflation numbers coming down as the economy continues to improve. the dollar looks fine to me and on the whole i think the economy is pretty well balanced. i think that's not as much i can say. you take me where you want me to
go. >> okay. great. i'll kick things off. so yesterday i want to ask you about the border. yesterday you spoke about wanting to find a way to secure the u.s./mexico border without seriously damaging the economy. how is that possible to do both at the same time and what's your latest thinking on that? >> you know, the issue is it's difficult. i mean first of all i will say the president is completely right. you have this unbelievable situation down there. a hundred thousand illegal immigrants in the last month or two. i don't know how you process that and what we need is serious immigration reform in this country. i think mexicans actually are trying to help out from what i can gather. i'm not an expert on that subject. regarding the economic impact of
closing the border which is president has not made a decision yet. i'm not aware he has. one area we explored is to try to keep the freight lanes opened or the truck lanes. you know, i talked to various officials and others who were more knowledgeable than i. that is possible if you ask me the mechanics of it. i'm not the guy. >> yeah. >> that is possible. you know, that would help the supply chain issues. you know, we are very integrated with the mexican me. economy. it is one that i have high hopes will pass in congress this year. we will do the best we can in the we haven't that that becomes necessary. >> do you agree with the president that security is more important than trade?
>> well, look, i think they are both essential. in a funny way i mean i fully support him and his efforts to try to solve this border crisis. the issue of border security. it's not an easy thing to do. in addition to humanitarian problems and drug trafficking problems, you're flooding the south and south texas, new mexico, california. it effects the economies. it's very disruptive. it is a humane country. we want to do the best we can
even though i think we are running short of facilities frankly. i'm not an expert. it's almost the two become intertwined. i don't think it was one or the other. we just need immigration reform and we have some awfully good ideas in the administration. we would love to work with congress and work to get something done. try to solve that, work with mexico to try to solve their issues coming in from the south, as you know, they have made this and they have been coordinating with them. at the same time they will do the things that have made our
economy a better economy creating jobs. he knows they have intertwined. >> thanks very much for coming this morning. i hope it doesn't sound very. i wonder what you make of the brexit process that is unfolding and what the consequences would be if we remain in some kind of customs union with the european union. >> nice going over there. nice going. what's up with that? i don't know. i don't want to choose or offer any particular advice. i supported brexit several years ago as did the president. i continue to support it. i called it magnacarta 2.0.
i felt it would give the british folks a lot more and really a stronger economy to get rid of the regulations and taxes and legal burdens and so forth and so on. as far as strategy goes i don't know. i don't know what's going to happen. i don't want to speculate. >> when donald trump came to london last july he warned if britain sort of had a relationship with the european union then it would make it much more difficult for the u.s. to have a deal. >> have a what? >> a trade deal. >> we would love to do that with the u.k. i heard the president say that quite recently.
as i understand it as matters now stand we can't and somebody said there's a two-year gap. i don't know if that's 100% true. if there was a clean break maybe we wouldn't have to wait two years. we would love to have, you know, a trade deal with britain. whether we are allowed to do that or not. i don't want to forecast. i don't understand politics over there anymore. in fact i probably don't understand politics here either. again, we favor brexit. i wish it were faster and easier. we would love to do a trade deal with the united kingdom which the prime minister, look, i know
her, many of her people. i enjoyed meeting with them. you don't want me to forecast that. >> ho yw are you? >> good. thanks. >> can you explain why you're stepping up pressure to lower interest rates even though the fed is doing what you all want in terms of causing interest rate hikes and seconds can you talk a little bit about steven moore and how committed the white house is given all of the information about his personal life? >> well, on the matter of the fed i concur that money looked too tight particularly in the last couple of rate hikes.
there was an incorrect report saying i used the word immediately. did not. in two tv shows i went soft on it. it is our point of view. fed is independent. the fed is independent. we are not trying to compromise that. never will. i started my career at the fed. i was there for signing in 1913. it is a joke. i look at yield curve and it's way too tight for me. i know that there's global
it if i get the numbers right 7.3 million job openings according to the report. 6.5 million unemployment. i think those are right. you say where is the -- how are we going to do this? the answer is discouraged workers who moved out of the labor force are coming back. it can't be inflationary. therefore my suggestion is that the federal reserve think about that and maybe they acted a little too hastily. i take your point. you know, now looks like there will be no rate hikes.
i take that point and i also want to add the fed will move when the fed moves. it's not a pressure. it's not a matter of pressure. it's a matter of our point of view. it is on a number of subjects. i notice the money markets are pricing in one rate cut and then a small probability of a second rate cut. a lot of people in the investment world with our point of view. again, the fed is independent. it will act when it will act.
last year white house spokeswoman sarah sanders said that there could be no infrastructure plan the rest of the year and that of course would be promise to the president for the campaign. we are into another year. very simply is there an infrastructure plan on the books and if so how does the administration propose to pay for it? >> we are developing an infrastructure plan. >> are you ready this year? >> it could be. wlec when you say be ready there year here is a case we are working with congress and the now house leadership. i myself have met with a number of committee chairman in both bodies, both houses and we have talked abili talked about a lot of things. the discussions are ongoing. both were with respect to be
authorizing the highway bill. we also have some thoughts about infrastructure. i'm very keen on that myself. there is an executive order that will be unvailed in due course that will try to help out our energy revolution and will open the door to additional pipelines, terminals and things of that sort. that's a big part of our view. as i said, i met with the key committee chairman. we'll continue to work with them. i know a lot of them. i know some of the democrats, former guests on the cover report. all people on the cover report made good in life later on. >> where is the money coming from? >> we haven't really priced out yet. we will see. revenue sources, we'll see the size, the duration. i don't want to give any details
out yet. again, we are working with those folks. it will be a collaboration and our hope is that something comesovcomes of it. i wouldn't want to get into any details. we are getting a good amount of time with both chambers, the senate, how committee chairman in the house and i think that's a good thing. we may all come up with something this year. it is possible. >> and the president is involved? >> of course the president is involved. of course the president is involved. >> happends on? >> it is the most hands on president you'll ever see. it's one of the reasons it's so cool to work with him. i worked with two. i was closly involved with another. he is a very hands on desies ifr executive. >> how are you?
>> thank you for doing this. i want to go back for a second. first of all what are the odds that you think he will close the border? number two, if you do keep the truck lanes open and mitigate the economic leverage what do they have left? >> well, look, that's all up to him, the decision to go or no go is completely up to him. >> that's the only thing do? >> i don't want to handicap it. we looked at it. there are a lot of terribly kplik and security issues. he is going to make those announcements. >> what's the thinking behind it? it is to inflict pain on mexico to give him leverage to do what? what is the thinking about using the border closing as a political point? >> the only thing i say is that
as he has said, i'm trying go through his most recent statements even this week. we want more help from mexico. by the way, it appears we are getting more help from mexico. it's a good thing. it's a great thing. we would like some help from the congress and the democrats and republicans far comp hence ifr immigration bill. i do say the mexican governments are doing better than some on the hill. >> how does the border closing help you get more help from the hill? >> it is an explanation point. it shows his seriousness. it is such an important issue.
he is flagging to the american people. the american people, how serious and how committed he is to restoring some semblance of law and order down there and to genuinely protect america's borders and its security. these are hard things. i mean we went through this with the government shutdown. i was in the press room a bufnc of times. i wasn't thrilled about the shutdown. nobody is thrilled about the shutdown. i don't want anyone to have a hardship if i can avoid it. >> the principal is a clear border security program including a wall and many other things. he is underscoring that because matters are or have gotten out of hand. i mean i -- it's funny. it's obviously not my main policy area of expertise.
when i heard a hundred thousand people coming through i have seen friendsover mine work on the administration like johnson and so forth, we are all shocked at this. you to do something. he has got to send a message of the seriousness of this and the desperate need to solve it. it effects america's life and future. you know, i'm trying to para phrase them. i don't know that i have it downright but i think he would say something like that. >> okay. i'm sorry. i don't know your name.
>> you seem to have pretty aggress ifr sanctions poll sichlt how much is the reality of all of the investment on our end limiting our ability to put pressure there. how much have you put in on the venezuela sanctions and then on the russia question will read your words back to you at some point. you were very on 2015 we need to -- if we will get tough on russ russia sanctions won't work. it was something to the effect of complete you'll have to stop doing this. how would we introduce change on sanctions? >> you go back and look at all of my stuff. >> i tried but you have a large
library. >> if russia misbehaves we will take action. if i am involved we have sanctions, as you know. the sanctions are working. we may take additional sanctions. >> it's a foreign interference with cuba and russia and china. the people are starving on the streets. less people -- less the young folks forget the breakdown of socialism in the soviet union lel let's use it as a bit of a refresher course.
it became so with the chavez and leading to maduro. we want him out. >> how do you do that when the united states is heavily invested and how does that -- how do you navigate that? it is different because we have a financial stake in this. >> we do. yes. of course we do. i have met with all of the ceos. they are fully behind us on this. fully behind us. the sums are not insignificant. we will be taking whatever steps necessary and if we have to take that up we will. >> do those include a rebuilding
plan? >> that's good. i'm glad you asked that part. we call it day two. i'm heavily involved in that along with ross and working for him. we have a lot of plans to revitalize the venezuelan economy and to move very rapidly. there's financial planning. there's food planning. there's getting cash to the people on the streets planning. we have been working with banks in the region to help us. we have currency planning. we have imf planning. and i don't want to go into details at this point, but the answer is yes, absolutely. >> all right. >> you'll be moving as fast as we can. i hope the venezuelan people
closer. >> pemts that complaints aren't fixed but i didn't want to go into any of those details. he wants to put a sunset on them. is that something the president would consider in any way? >> the president is not in favor of that at the moment. not in fay very of that. he believes that he needs maximum to bring home some deals. you know, for all of the
nationalists, whatever, there is one i wish would do lots of details on it's an old economy and new economy deal. nothing like it has ever been put together. it is a template. it is very helpful in allowing him access to her conference. he spoke to the whole democratic conference which was very cool. we are gaining on the china deal come further and farther than anyone thought possible. we are engaged in talks with
europe and japan. we completed a good south korean deal so our trade relations are wide open and entense and we are trying to solve important problems. we have come a long way. >> the section 232 tariffs are also sort of snagged on this. >> yes. a lot of people in congress want them lifted. >> he is hard at it. constant talks.
>> he had 90 days. is it a month old? i don't remember. >> it has been more than a month. >> so it's being considered. no decisions have been made. by the way, under certain sections obviously not a lawyer but listened to the lawyers that 90 days could stretch out quite a while if need be. >> okay. dan from hurst over at the other table. >> some of us were in an interview with the president in which we discussed the so called state and local tax that is having quite an impact on
taxpayers in states like connecticut and new york and the president seemed a little surprised that this was an issue with middle class homeowners. he thought it was more of a matter for the well healed and elsewhere. he did say that he had gotten calls on the issue. he was open to discussing it. i believe governor cuomo of new york took the cue and went down to washington to plead for some relief obviously not in this but in future tax years. is there anything on that? >> as a courtesy i just met an his budget director talked about
that and other things. i don't expect to see the tax reform opened up. i would add and i understand criticisms about it. i understand that certain parts of the country may get hit harder than others. i just want to remind though in terms of tax legislation itself, you know, we basically did away with it. so many of the upper income brackets are actually getting a deduction. let's say they get the 10,000 where as before they wouldn't have gotten any. they would have been thrown in. just saying. that may not solve the problem to everyone's satisfaction. i understand that. that's there. a lot of people overlook that.
second point obviously, it's not breaking news, kudlow would like to see lower taxes federally. i had the pleasure of living in new york and connecticut. do you want any tax advice from me? you know, we are always like to help out in new york for sure. >> i doubt it very much. >> it is the best to press. >> indeed. >> hold that thought. >> but i mean at the moment a lot of americans are concerned about the fact that inequality
seems to be growing and capitalism you need some people to be successful. is there a need for some kind of upgrade so all rise at the same speed? >> i don't believe that. personally think for myself. i think we all start at the same starting line. by law and tradition and freedom but we do not end at the same. equality of results is not part of the american tradition. never been part of the american tradition. i'm glad you opened this up. i want to make a point or two here. we mentioned it regarding
venezuela. you want to talk about equalityovequality of results or people having more evenly distributed benefits. if you go to some sort of universal medicare or health care system, right? 180 million americans will lose their health insurance policies. 180 million. this is not all rich people. those are working folks. most people get their insurance from their businesses. right? that goes away. that is not fair. that is not fair.
>> who do you think will pay for that? if you add in some of the proposals about financing people who were not working and don't wish to work and there's a whole laundry list of ending fossil fuels, the idea that you'll raise the top tax rate to 70% or 80% or whatever wouldn't even remotely finance if we went down that road you would get tax hikes on everybody.
it pays about 3%. we according to are the most progressive or one of the most progressive taxed industrial countries. my point is all of the folks that pay those taxes are going to pay more taxes to finance any of these socialist new ideas. let's face it. i don't think the opposition party has been honest about this. i have seen price outs from left of center right of center think tanks. i don't see how that makes anything fair or more equitable or whatever. our own counsel of economic advisers looked at this.
you can lose 15% inside of ten years. i mean socialism doesn't work. i think it will be a political burden for the opposition party that will be economic destination. so when grow down that road, you know, you have to consider the damage that will be done to everybody. socialism doesn't work. as i say we'll be talking about that but in a more philosophical sense i think it is much more important to expand the economic pie and to exercise one's god given talents. i don't think we start -- we begin at the same starting line
but law and fortunately we have lots of safe gafrds theguards t. it doesn't mean we all do it at the same. we'll wind up making vastly more money than i will. i'm not going complain. you said the does not want to compromise independence of the fed. appearance matters when you talk about the institution like that. how should we read into the president's tweets and officials like you about where monetary policy should be headed? it has never been our intent. >> fed will do what it will do.
we have reviews. >> just ask one more on venezuela. you're talking about an economic package. is there some sort of the time line on how long administration is willing to wait and keep tiel tightening advice before it is time to unleash? what does that package look like? it is getting ahold of the machine of government. we are working on lotsover discussions going onto the people in the national assembly.
it will put hands to the people that are starving. very clever people are working on this inside of the government. it is using banks, iphones, apps, many clever ways to get cash in there and the cash will not be it will be dollars at least at the beginning. there's no demand. is it still called -- anyway, dollars would be answered. you know, i don't want to get ahead of the curb. i'm saying we are ready to go. >> all right. we are running out of time. i want to get in a few more to my left. >> thank you very much.
what kind of time line do you have? president trump said he will go back i don't know when it will be. she has been very cooperative in the relationship there with bob and others has been great. so we are ready to vote. we would love to vote. on trade is the administration willing to roll back the tariffs on china upon the signing of a deal as china wants or demanding
that all tariffs remain in place and are rolled back over time? >> i can't be specific because it is part of the enforcement discussion and continues. we'll wait and see. why is it important for the fed to be viewed as independent? >> think independent central brangs are a good thing. i think around the world, you know, for example countries with independent central banks tend to have much lower inflation and much better policies.
i think argentina has been a learning experience. there is a lot of history about that. so i think that sort of independence is a is a good thi. i don't think that precludes people having opinions about the fed, as you know. but in any statutory sense, i think it's a good thing to have a independent central bank. >> so we're right -- it's 10:01. >> i'm stuck with you. but nick, i was thinking about you this morning. you're never far from my thoughts. you know, the president may have said that lovingly. very lovingly, you know what i mean. think about that. >> did he say that lovingly. >> i wasn't on the conversation. i'm just opening up that possibility. it might have been a very loving, affectionate kind of a huggy thing on the phone. >> what about byrnes in the 70s.
is that an episode that would give you pause. >> you know, i -- i know that history. i knew arthur when i was here the time. historians disagree about all that. i know there is some evidence that -- that he gunned the money supply because the white house wanted him to. i don't think we're in that situation at i mean -- i don't t to bore you and take a lot of time. arthur, bless his soul, rest in peace. was a brilliant man but he was a longtime nixon guy. he was the c.a. chairman under eisenhower nixon, the top nixon aide. i don't know. i don't see this as a similar situation. that's all i'll say. and, again, i want to reiterate,
my comments in recent days, i never used the word -- it was soft. this is my view. and it's also the president's view. we think they went too far. that's all. >> so we're now at 10:03. we start add little late. >> i'm here. i'm yours. >> nancy cook from politico to your right. >> larry thank you for doing this. just a follow-up question on border. apart from keeping open truck lanes what are other strategies gnat administration is think bag to mitigate potential economic damage is the president decides to shut down the border? >> it's a hard thing. there is, you know, issues nancy, about individuals and groups getting to work. i understand how hard that is. tour hard that you know, saintly wife and i lived in the san diego area a long time ago and went across a
couple of be possible -- it's a multi, multi-lane highway kind of thing. you could -- you could figure out ways to do that. i'm not saying it's easy. but it -- as i said earlier, you know, to my way of thinking, the truck -- the truck in lanes and freight lanes, the supply chain stuff is really the key. i'd go there first. and then try to develop -- i don't know if this is going to happen. the president will give us his views today or, as days go by. but anything we can do to ameliorate the economic story we will do. en it's become looked at very, very carefully. >> do you have an estimate -- i was told yesterday that you and kevin hassett have been making the argument to the president
through economic data and paper that, you know, gdp could take a hit. day by day with the border closure. what does that data tell you? what kind of hit to gdp could it take? what information are you presenting to the president along owes lines. >> i'm not sharing the internal stuff just to say we felt the need to give him some advice. that's what we are there for. you give him good news. you give him bad news. >> final question to the gentleman at the end the table and apologies to those who didn't get one. >> back to mcbriefly, do you believe that our ability to impose punitive tariffs is the one thing that sticks in the craw of the chinese at this point. >> i'm sorry? >> our ability to impose punitive tariffs as necessary when rules with broken? and see the biggest stumbling block at the moment. >> speaking ald free-trader, one
of the things i've learned on this, the president's use of tariffs as a negotiating tool, i think he was right. i really do. particularly in the chinese situation. i think he was right. and illustrate not my normal habitat. but when i saw how tough the the story was with china and all their violations, i came to the view that he was right. and here we are deep into discussions nobody has come close to this, you know, he is the first president -- i don't know, ever, to hard headed with china and be unafraid to use tariffs to make his point. no other president has done in as far as i know. and it's -- it's worked in the
sense that it's certainly brought them to the table. and i mean, i think the chinese have been going the wrong way did he certificating some of the market-based reforms of the 80s and 90s. i think their economy has been on decline the last 15 years. the tariffs hurt that -- the tariffs made that worse. but if the world trading system is busted, frankly it is -- change is important. and the president i think has taught us all a lesson about being a tough negotiator. i think that's really really part of the story here. and it may well pay off. i hope it pays off he has said he hopes it pay off. it's got to be a great deal for the u.s. and china too. but yeah, i think we all learned something on this.
and there is lots more work to be done. you know, there is -- you got to play by the rules. and the trading system worked great for a long time. then all of a sudden it hasn't worked great for several decades. we can go into detail. we don't have time. but i think potus is absolutely right. that's one of the reasons i've supported this, you know, the strenuously and still am support going. >> when did it stop working. >> i think it's a good question. >> around 2001. >> i don't know precisely. but you know, i think the breakdown inside the wto had something to do with it, the mislabeling of economies. if you are second largest economy in the world is still labeled undeveloped, and no actions are taken to change that, huh?
and i think that kwh is not alone. although i think they are the worst -- they have been the worst. but i also want to look at this positively. you've asked me questions about the talks. i can't be specific except to say, as bob plierds would say we're making headway and i hope we make more this woke. i think the chinese have acknowledged these problems for the first time. they were in denial. [ inaudible question ] >> all of them. all of them. the i.p. theft, forced transfer, lack of ownership, cyber hacking, they've acknowledged that. before that they wouldn't acknowledge it. i've been here a year and been deeply involved in this. and wave had private meetings and in and that. and i'm not going line by line the way lighthizer does, which is a hell of a thing.
by the way lighthizer is a brilliant guy. you got a bunch of old raegen guys in the trump white house that are kicking. and i marvel at his energy. but i'm just saying they have for the first time acknowledged that we have a point. several points. and i think that has led to, you know, good negotiations. good negotiations. i was at the dinner in argentina, the buenos aires dinner. saw the chemistry between the two presidents. it was fascinating. and president xi wasn't saying no we didn't, no, we didn't. no, we didn't. he was open to listening tp at the lower levels we heard that. that's great progress.
that's great progress. so i think -- you know, i understand there is different views about the president and his negotiating style. i understand all that. i'm just saying in one particular area he has taught me something about negotiating. >> do you think the kmienz wichl extend their visit. >> you know, that's a good question, because they might. there is no law against it. we'll see. thank you. great points. >> and thank you so much for coming. >> thank you. >> one more question on china. "the financial times." is if no agreement is reached within the kmienz in the next few weeks, should the tariffs be increased to 25% immediately to put more pressure on them? or should they be kept where they are to encourage more negotiations and have a less damaging impact on the u.s. economy. >> i don't want to speculate on that. too many what ifs.
yes. >> and u.s. japan negotiations coming up this month, do you think it's necessary to negotiate increasing auto tariffs -- increased auto tariffs on japan imports? do you think that's a necessary part of the negotiations? >> well the president many months ago at the u.n. bilat symbioticed that as a good will measure as long as talks were occurring no tariff actions would be taken. and he has said that publicly. as you know, the japanese car makers are picking up their direct investment in a huge way. i had a message one night -- this is a funny anecdote -- the japanese ambassador to the united states calls me late in the office one night and said
the prime minister told him to give me the press release for the new japanese direct investment and would i give it to the president, right away. so i was pleased to be the messenger. i like prime minister abe. i think he is a smart guy. so i did. and that was done i think also in earnest to show good will, that they want to build as much as they can here in the states. so so far as i know, that commitment not to take any actions while we are in discussions is still ongoing. >> can you give us an update on what the status of president trump's executive order banning huawei, the chinese telecom company from selling -- >> we are still in discussion on that. >> have the chinese brought up that at the bargaining table. >> you know, the huawei stuff has generally not come up in the
trade talks. we have looked at it as a legal matter so far. and regarding executive orders or other actions, i don't know -- i don't want to say we'll have an executive order. i just will say tower discussing that. that's a matter of economic and national security. >> i think we are going to end it now. >> so much fun. >> good thank you for coming. >> happy to do it. >> please come again. >> my pleasure. thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> the it's love. dean. it's love.
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americans in arizona. and every dream is possible. that's what it means to be american to me. for me, it means that i can work in the country that allows me the freedom of any job i want. i'm 69 years old. i'm still working teaching students. and they allow me to do that here. i can teach diverse students. i can teach american government, american history. i have the choice and freedom to affect students's lives in these areas. >> and to think about what it's like to be an american. to me it's to fight for social, environmental and economic justice. our plan set in dire peril. our country is in unprecedented turmoil i think we have to fight for knows more vulnerable and our environment and ensure the world would have food is at least as good for our kids and
grand kids as it is for us today. >> voices from the road on cspan. up next, former house intelligence committee chair mike rogers talks about china's telecommunications technology and security concerns posed by chinese tech companies. then a panel looks at the future of 5 g mobile service. in event is hosted by the heritage foundation. all right. we're going to go ahead and get started here today. thank you all for come out to heritage on this rainyhu