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c-span and the polling organization ipsos got together and did a poll taking a look at election security and the 2020 elect. to show you a headline from the hill this morning about the poll, a crisis of confidence is one of the phrases that came up, and joining us to talk about it is cliff young, the president of ipsos, and here to talk about the poll, mr. young, thanks for joining us. >> it's great to be here, pedro. >> the genesis of this poll, where did it come from? >> we actually have a relationship with c-span, with y'all, and we like to touch on important topics of the day. the last poll we did was actually on the moon landing a few months back. we found electoral reform and threats to the election system was something that was in essence non-partisan. it was longer looking, and we really wanted to see what americans think about it. there's not much polling on the subject matter. >> so the first thing you did was talk about and take a look at just initial findings. what did you find from the key findings? >> yeah. what i would say is the results
are as striking as worrisome, and i agree actually unequivocally with the headline in "the hill" that we have a crisis of confidence in u.s. elections and our electoral system today. we found that only 53%, only 53% of americans are confident that the 2020 elections will be open and fair, and there are huge partisan differences in respect to the specific question whereas on one hand republicans, 72% are confident and only 39% of democrats, and indeed what i can say is overall the poll showed on the one hand this lack of confidence in the system, though there's some points of consensus and on the other stepping back a bit, a widespread belief that the system is broken and rigged. once again, it raises the alarm, and it's something that all of us should be focused on at this point. >> so you see the partisan divide particularly on this issue of security.
any sense from the polling of what is causing that? >> well, there's a number of factors, and part of it, to be quite frank, is sour grapes. indeed, the party out of power, in this case it's the democrats at this point, are more critical in 2016 than the republicans, but i would say specifically two things. the acute problem of northern intervention and the threat that foreign powers pose to the american election system, 58% of americans believe that. only 41% of republicans and 77% of democrats. indeed, the foreign threat to our elections and democracy specifically is i would say the root cause. the in addition, what were find, what we find n relationship to that, only 31%ch americans are confident that the government, the government today, the u.s. government, has done enough to counter the foreign threat, the foreign menace, and, indeed once again, even though it's 31% we see the huge partisan differences. on the one hand, 54% of
republicans believe the government has done enough and 60% of democrats and 20%ch independents so once again huge partisan differences when it comes to the mechanics and confidence in the electoral system, and i'm just repeat the initial point made at the beginning. i believe we see with these polling results a crisis in confidence in our election system >> when people are talking about the poll, do they cite the influence of russia and other things as the concern for the actual numbers being produced? >> well, we stayed away from specific sort of charged issues like that to be quite frank. obviously we do a lot of poll at ipsos, and we know that it is ukraine and more specifically russia that is cited, but n this poll we tried to stay away from the buzzwords and charge words and these phrases. the other thing we wanted to make, on one hand for influence, the foreign threat is probably
the key driver of this lack of confidence and this partisan divide, but we also see more structural issues like the elect call college. what we find is 60% of persons believe the electoral college should be abolished in favor of direct vote or popular vote. that said, there are huge partisan differences, again, with 84% of democrats believing that the electoral college should be abolished and only 33%ch republicans, so the point is that we have this acute problem of the foreign threat, but they are more structural institutional issues which divide people in their view of the sanctity of the electoral system. >> when it comes to this topic, we want to go through independents' view of the party commitment and fair elections. what did you find? >> yeah. it was surprising. we see that independents see the republican party as being less fair and accurate than democrats. there's a 20-point difference but not a huge difference. some of the other partisan
divides we find 30, 40, 50 points. there is this sort of notion and public opinion more specifically with independents than republicans might be tilting the odds in their favor. we can think of voter i.d. sort of initiatives and other initiatives in states to restrict the vote in some ways as democrats would say but the partisan divide it not as large as they are across the other elections. i want to respond to some of the callers. yes, we're in highly part shan teams. we find 30, 40, 50-point differences across multiple domains when it comes to partisan differences. more specifically, we do though find consensus on a number of issues, including gerrymandering. no one is in favor of using partisanship to define a congressional district on the one hand or on the other hand more specifically americans really have -- a super majority
of merns are really in -- of actually having voter identification. that a very striking and interesting finding. we expected democrats not to be in support of that but a majority of democrats are in spot that have as well. >> a couple other questions based on what you said previously. you asked the question are democrats committed to fair and accurate elections? tell us the numbers, tell us what's behind them. >> 61% of americans believe democrats are committed to fair and accurate elections. dine ed, if we have an integral electoral system it should be a super majority support, large support behind that. it really is in line with what independents say, that is the moderate middle. again, you know, if you look at especially in-state initiatives to restrict a vote that tend to be a republican plank or initiative or poll sill orientation and not democratic, these reflect the data on the ground. you did the same of republicans to be committed to fair and
accurate elections. >> there's a 20% difference between republicans and democrats and, again, this just reflects the reality on the ground. republicans have had initiatives in the states, especially to restrict the vote via a have a right of different policies, and this is reflective of the data that we see here. >> also, you take a look at some other related questions about election reforms, and let's go through with them, with the idea of supporting presidential candidates to release tax returns. >> we were surprised 5. 3% of americans support that a presidential candidate need to comes out with their taxes. only 26% of republicans and 75% of democrats. this is just reflective of the highly, highly politicized and partisan times we live in. donald trump and my taxes and
hard for me to disentangle what's important for. >> hand you end up by saying the number of people who support showing an i.d. to vote. >> we were surprised. i was surprised by those results. i thought it job a minority of democrats in favor of it. we found the contrary. a super majority, strong majority, 67% of democrats in favor of it and 78% of americans in general. once, again, while there are huge partisan differences, especially when it comes to what the 2020 elections will look like and the threat that foreign of consensus. one is actually requiring i.d.s on the one hand. as i mentioned before, the data of the poll also shows that no one is in favor of the partisan drawing of congress a.m. districts. those are two points of consensus that the poll found. >> mr. young, before we let you
go. there's a your off of twitter asking you about the details of how the poll that was taken, the people that were polled, the number of democrats and republicans and independents, that kind of thing. can you snapshot about a week a little bit to do the poll, did it about a week aigt. did 1038 interviews. representative sample of americans. the number of democrats and republicans and independents reflective in the poll given the population statistics. we often ensure that we have the correct distribution geographically, rangely, politically, to ensure a representative sample. >> cliff young is the represent of ipsosuz partnerships thanks for walking through the poll with us. >> thank you so much pedro. >> campaign 2020, when watch our live coverage of the
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