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think about the i think everything else is that much more challenging along the way. i think it can be done. i've seen it done. and we did it in montana. i was attorney general when actually was general in part with your former mike delaney who is always good to see when the case called citizens united came up. that was the case that said oh, money is speech and corporations have the same rights as people.
when that case came down, every single state in the country said game over. there is absolutely nothing we can do. democrats and it really was it was a completely captured state. regular folks said enough is enough and passed this corrupt practices act in 1912 saying corporations couldn't spend or contribute in elections. and we had some of the lowest
contribution limits in the nation. actually people talking to people, not how much money is going to be spent on the outside. so in citizens united came up as ag i knew i had to do something. took the first case up to the u.s. supreme court. we even had testimony from former republican stayedwide office holders what the threat o threat of the spending could do backup we were so excited lost on a 4-3 vote -- or 5-had vote. one which don't ever doubt especially now what one justice can do on the u.s. supreme court. but it also taught me this is at the core of so much of the challenges that we have. you have to find another way. so went back to my legislature at the time and it was about two-thirds republican and passed a law saying 90 out days out from election i don't call if you call yourself americans for america, america, mesh whatever tp you have to disclose all the
money you spend in the elections. i'm running for re-election in 201693 days out americans por prosperity, koch-funded group. they did such a great job blanket mailing the state of montana it showed up at the governor's residence. and my three kids are looking at the mailer, like dad are you really that much of a creep? but then on day 90 it stopped. and if we can stop them there we can stop them certainly in new hampshire and all across this country. because we've got to figure out a way that people's voices are actually heard. we rolled out something a couple weeks ago. like this crazy idea. let's imagine you elect somebody to the u.s. senate. how about having him or her do the job half the time, meaning for the first three years of the term. they can't be focused on raising money. they can't be focused on re-election. when instead it came out that
congress last congress spent 1.5 million hours raising money. how would -- for those first three years of a term how would the time be spent in maybe listening to constituents? maybe doing committee work. maybe actually building relationships and sometimes relationships on the other side of the aisle with other members. we've got to get to a point where people believe d.c. can work. self-certainly i'll acknowledge but maybe the way to do that is to get somebody from outside of d.c. because d.c. has become a place where talking has become a substitute for doing. or wasn't that a great speech along the way? a place where in 20 years they haven't balanced a budget on time. or actually passed -- not forget balancing a budget, passing a
budget even. i think this is -- you know, and everybody says it. most important election in my lifetime. anybody that's ever run for office you've heard them say that. but i think this one is true. because it's bigger than just one election. to me it really is a $243ier experiment called representative democracy that's being challenged and tested. and for democrats if we can't win back places that we lost, if we can't give people a reason to vote for us and not just against him, i think donald trump could well win again. i see those maces time and time again. i'm an optimist that it can be done. you have to be optimistic when you have teenage daughters and a 13-year-old son. but more than that, i think that's just at the core of who we are as americans. we actually know we're at our
best when all voices can be heard, not just we we're divided into warring camps or that civility can replace the hos intimidate because even after this election we're going to have a deeply divided nation. and we have to figure out ways to make that nation actually recognize that what we share in common is so much greater than what divides us politically. i think back to -- i was living in d.c. at the time of 9/11. and think about shortly after that. how unified we were as a nation. we need that same sort of purpose, compassion, and unity to bridge some of the divides and challenge with i think -- or deal with what i think is the greatest challenge facing us. that is the belief that everybody has that fair shot at a better life, the american
dream. we've got to figure out that way to get there. i think we can do it. that's who we are. i so appreciate not only the last since the 90s you all doing this but how you take this seriously along the which. because it's always been the early states that take a large field and make it small. and i'd still with over 4 months before any voter actually expresses a preference, your active engagement all the way along matters a lot thanks for having me. with that i'd be happy to answer almost any question. [ applause ] karen from aarp is the first question. >> thank you, governor. . is this on can you hear me. >> i sure can, karen.
>> thank you for joining us today in our beautiful state at this great time. i want to tell you about a 62-year-old new hampshire resident who has a 30-year-old son. and on the same week these two people discovered that they had two different types of cancer. the son was in the process of changing careers. and he had no health insurance. so his parents took out a second mortgage to finance the $13,000 a month chemo that he needed. you can imagine what a toll this took on the family's finances. so my question to you is, if you were elected president what is the first thing you would do to lower prescription drug costs for this family and all of us in
in good country? >> now -- and thank you for the question. unfortunately that family's experience isn't that unique in many respects. talking to a teacher in a rural area that took a second job just because a third of her income goes to paying for insulin. recognizing that -- by the way i'm just more than an advocate i'm a member of aarp, so i get to be a part of that too. but recognizing you do have members. and people all over the country that have been saying, should i buy my drugs or heat my home? and i mention this briefly at the start. it is stunning to me in many respects that costco or sams club can negotiate prescription drug prices but the biggest
purchaser of prescription drugs is the federal government and they can't. where i would begin is by getting to the point, you know, the v.a. was finally -- veterans administration was finally allowed to have its own formulary saving like $650 million the first year they did that. but the difference on prescription drug pricings is this isn't just about federal government savings. this is about families being able to afford what they have. what i would do in beginning is turn around and say -- first also to step back telling that person's story about the young man in between jobs. i mean, let's recognize at least when he or she gets the next job they can get insurance coverage. the greatest step, even though a lot of work to go still from there since medicare was actually the affordable care act. the republicans the spent 70 times trying to get rid of even the ability to have lifetime caps or preexisting condition coverage. but i think step one is
negotiate the prescription drug prices down. use the power of the federal government because that impacts everybody insurers and others. if that isn't enough i think we can look at sort of price caps or importation or things that. but first and foremost i think the power of the market, if the federal government was allowed to do so could substantially change that. and i'll say as a general matter, too, look, we are still the only major industrialized nation in the world that health care is something that isn't accessible to everyone. i think we can get there by building on the affordable care act. i'd do a public option, negotiate prescription drug prices, start getting to a point where we're actually doing payment reform, changing the way that we're paying doctors, not just for tests but actually for coverage of care. that's how we make sure everybody has affordable,
accessible, quality health care. i wouldn't get rid of it and start all over. >> yes, thank you for coming here and enjoying our foliage. let's post-late that you're either president or secretary of the interior. there are some bills now regarding the national endowment for the arts and humanitity was proposal to increase the budgets by 12.5 million each. and others for arts therapy for serviceman, veterans and people. i wonder if you could tell me a little bit about -- looks like you have a fairly robust arts council in your state and i wonder if you attend the governor awards for the arts or people in your family are involved in the arts or if you would support the budget propositions. >> well, i think it is one of
the -- yeah, there is the governor's award for the arts. i get to actually help pick them out. at times we hosted at the montana governor's residents. we do it in the rotunda. we try to make sure investments in the community continues. because it's more than -- there are so many different levels of this. it's so great -- and my wife who is a self-described computer geek. a programmer has done all kinds of work in s.t.e.m. because it's actual steam. because it begins with the not just technical side but need to artistic side as well. when you look at what makes a small town become in many respects where people want to it is often the art scene and the ability to have those things. that's cultural pl companies
coming to montana they don't talk about the tax rate. they talk about the amenities and education system around. i do think and have always that the federal government does have a significant role to play in enhancing that. what we have seen at times and even more so is that programs like the federal investment side in the arts and the humanities is often under attack and going down. and i think that's a part of what sort of the vitality of a representative democracy if we lose the arts and the culture we're going to lose who we are. but i have no artistic talent whatsoever. and in sixth grade mr. we'd bush asked me to mouth the words so everybody else could participate because i was so off key. >> hi, this is a political rather than a policy question.
but donald trump has a brilliant ability to build himself up by denigrating or villifying his opponents. he did it effectively in the republican contest three years ago. how do you handle it considering that he has a nickname for everyone? he has -- you know, calls people criminals and stuff like that? how do you deal with that as a politician should you be able to get the nomination? >> yeah i've thought about -- because when you deal with a stable genius how do you make sure that -- no, from the perspective. i think there is a number of things. first of all i don't think the answer is to outtrump trump. right you wrestle with a pig you both get muddy and the pig likes it. there are ways to do this by standing up, calling out behavior, calling out the falsehoods and how you are essentially destroying the
overall system without kinning to be in the fight and the dialogue. here is a good example from my perspective. i remember when he said sent horrible tweets about four duly elected members of congress. then he goes down south and sits there for 13 seconds, while his crowd is chanting send her back. so the media and everybody focused on that for two and a half weeks. that pretty much took all of the oxygen. and this was at the very same time that his justice department was trying to strip away preexisting conditions coverage from every single american that has health care was trying to completely get rid of the affordable care act. the same time betsy devos was
kicking off the freedom scholarship, trying to privatize one of the great equalizers we have public education. about the same time they appointed william perry penally to the bureau of land manage letment to pd spent hips life trying to get rid of public lands pink you call him out. you actually call out the facts. you don't shy from standing up to him. but you don't make it all about him either. or at least him and where he is bringing this country down into the gutter. how do you deal with an adolescent, who aren't always stable geniuses? or a 6-year-old? you're firm, call it out. but you don't make it all about him. or her. and i think we need to have somebody that will stand up, call out the b.s. when it's b.s.
and that's exhausting because it's every day at this point. but not make it all about him and his messages. yes, sir, all the way in the back. >> good morning, my name is george bruneau. i'm old enough to remember watergate and getting up in the morning and reading the headlines. and it seems like deja vu these days getting up looking at headlines and scratching your head, and saying, what is happening to our country? and so this is a softball question. how would you assess the health of our democracy right now? >> yeah, i would assess it in that as i said a $243 experiment
in representative democracy is being significantly challenged. and that's one of the reasons why i got into this. because i don't know that sort of the core foundations could make it through another four years. and i say this on both sides at times. look, in isn't giving, you know -- when i got elected reebt elected, traveled around, i was asked to travel around quite a bit. and when i'd say 25 to 30% of my voters voted for donald trump, invariable among democrats the response was well what's wrong with those voters? conceptically what's wrong with you bullock, never saying, how is it that we have lacked the connections to so many people in in country? but i think what in president has normalized. you point out the days of watergate. like i was not one before two
weeks ago to say we should impeach. and in part because of the earlier question too. i didn't want to make the next year and a half about donald trump. i wanted to make it about the family who is dealing with the $13,000 a month payments for chemo. or the community that's worried about losing their hospital. but when a president literally goes to another president and asks for their intervention for electoral purposes, when he says, well talk to my attorney general and my personal lawyer, there are a lot of things that the next administration can undo or a congress can undo. but we vest when it comes to
foreign policy especially something absolutely almost solely in the president of the united states. and that's to be our voice and our representative. so i think the impeachment inquiry has to go on. and i do think that all of the norms from journalism, to expectations of what we do and what we say are being so deeply tested right now. when i first got elected governor, my kidsy 6, 8 appear 10. our kids were. and it was the youngest in 40 years in montana. like we move in the governor's residence my son kicks a soccer ball and bounces off this painting. and somebody in the house says that paint something worth $250,000. i said well take down all the damn paintings, right? we got to live here. during my first state of the state and deeply divided and the
legislature two thirds republican. i talked about how you are going to hear different sounds from the governor's residence and governor's house and that's young kids. and we as elected leaders have to recognize our kids learn from words and deeds. what we say and what we do. i said back then our kids are watching. and i believe that to be more true today than ever before. this is about the health of representative democracy. but it's also about what are we giving that next generation to aspire to or be inspired by? do they believe that this system can actually work and work in a way that can benefit their life? i think we're in dangerous times. and i don't say that for fear or alarming. i say that as much as a parent than a candidate, to say we have to become better. and we have to actually recognize the at the back end of this there are still going to be
incredible divides. and we have to figure out a way to bridge some of those so people believe there is something bigger than the politics of the day, and that's this experiment called america. >> hello, governor. i want to ask you about alzheimer's. allison heim esper is the sixth leading cause of death in the united states. there are about 5.8 million people living with the disease and another 16 million taking care of those individuals but not being compensated for it. so as president what would you do to fight alzheimer's and this public health crisis? >> and it is a public health crisis and to me it's not just all about statistics. when we talk about dementia and alzheimer's sort of as the woman from aarp spoke of -- to me that
has faces and names. it's grandpa bill who was my grandfather and grandma rosy when rosy got dementia then amaze heimers, or my political mentor, an attorney general. a guy named joe mizurik. there are a couple of things we need to look at along the way. right now we as a nation spend about $200 billion a year when it comes to the care treatment and prevention of alzheimer's. if we don't do something about in by 2040 it will be 500 billion. we know the numbers are out there along the way, right? we know where in goes if we don't do anything about that. we're spending 200 billion a year on prevention, care, treatment. yet only about $2.3 billion a
year when it comes to research. and what's been said is what's a national institute of health says if we're going to get to the point -- because it's a crisis -- by 2025 -- like the estimates are national institute of health should be spending about another $350 million every single year when it comes to just the research side. first fully funding that research. second, recognizing that we are all becoming caregivers. and it's not just for alzheimer's, to figure out opportunities. we did that in montana for respite care programs. to actually give the caregivers break. when it comes to home health care providers and others, we invest in quit a bit more, health care for health care workers, imagine that, and pay increasing along the way so we're giving actually as we entrust our most have you nerable people and that's our family with other caregivers we need to make sure the caregivers are paid. but injury it's one of these
where we have to accept both what the consequences are if we don't find ways to either slow down, treat, prevent, and when science has said this is about what we need this is another $350 million a year in investments i think that's a relatively small investment for the impact that it has on almost every family in any community or state. [ applause ] >> thank you very much. we really appreciate you being here. safe travels on the campaign trail. thanks to our sponsors and to our guests. and special shoutout to come to a new space and be able to do in in a way i hope for all of you was is seamless bus of the incredible partnership we have with the new hampshire institute of politics neil and ane and lexie. pauline, katie and sean thanks for making this work well. have a good weekend, everybody. thanks, governor.
and they were talking about what country and things i said the greatest threat facing this country is ourselves because if we don't figure out a way to get a lot closer then i don't know where it all goes. >> exactly. thank you. >> thank you. i have never signed a bunch of wooden eggs. >> beautiful penmanship too. >> thanks for. >> thanks for putting the a. back in steam. >> absolutely right. >> "the new york times" about two weeks ago on a sunday an article a engineering may earn more out of school but someone with a liberal arts degree earns more over lifetime because they have skills written skills, communication skills team building. >> as an art philosophy major hopefully that works out for me.
>> good luck. >> great opportunity for new hampshire to meet. >> you do. >> we appreciate that. thank you. >> much rather would have gone out to montana to see you than have you come here. beautiful country. >> any time you want to come out. >> all right. got to get you on the debate stage. >> yes, that would help. but by the same token, i mean, even look at sort of the polling less than 20% of people are even watching the debates. so that's -- >> that does help. >> good enough. >> thank you very much. >> i've been to montana it's absolutely gorgeous. >> it's not a bad spot. although you have real beauty here as well. >> estes park is gorgeous. >> governor if you're in concord, the state library is across the street. >> do you run it. >> i do.
>> when you come to register. >> i will. >> thanks. >> a lot of aha moments in what you say. and they resonate. >> well thank you very much. >> thank you, sir. >> governor, pile i'm a poly sci professor at new england college. >> what do you teach. >> mostly american politics. >> quite a time to be teaching american politics. >> it is indeed. >> a lot on focus on civics these days. >> isn't that -- >> it's important. >> yes. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> now are you doing, sir. >> what do you do. >> i go to new england college actually. >> fantastic. >> what are you studying. >> entrepreneurship as of right
now. with the election coming up i want to educate myself more. >> hard to avoid it. >> hi, how are you? >> good, thank you. >> you know, i don't know if your family did this but the wax crayons on easter you write your name on an egg. this is reminiscent. >> i think the crayon have better grip but you do great. >> i did okay. >> you have some of these it's like a scrawl and can't tell who it is. >> very nice. >> definitely not the easiest surface to sign. >> my cursive signature is oddly enough -- my cursive signature over 7 years in public office has changed because you sign so many things. >> better or worse. >> you can't even read it.
so at least when i print people can read it. two minutes. >> thank you. >> fantastic. thanks for being here. >> oh, no, a good talk. thank you, fred. >> i have two questions one is fre gichlt to goldman who gave you 1,000 bucks. >> had you did you get good guido engaged and you still aren't. >> i came here to check you out. i was favorably impressed >> thank you very much. >> another guy named walley knox. >> walley has helped us out in a lot of ways. >> i stayed with him in his place in la jola a couple weeks aigts. he is another guy told me about you. so anyway, very impressive. >> thank you very much, for sure. >> how you doing.
thank you very much. >> thank you. >> those are the founders for the health center in dorchester. taking a holistic view of health. out of poverty and into education. we started a school k-12. >> that's fantastic. >> only one in the country. thank you. >> no, thank you. >> thought we might actually get all the eggs done. sorry wouldn't it be bad if we had to stop right before you doesn't seem fair. >> thank you.
no one has ever complimented my penmanship i'll take it. >> it's an art, really you got it down. >> i practiced quite a bit before i came. >> great, thank you. >> governor thank you very much for doing in. >> thank you for. >> i hadn't heard your comment about passing medicaid expansion. i didn't realize that was part of the reason you were. >> and i didn't maine so we tried to reauthorize initiative. tobacco companies spent $26 million kill that reauthorization. i had to get it done. >> thank you. >> thank you.
we know they're first and again to iowa tomorrow after quick stops here. >> what is the commitment to new hampshire. >> commitment to new hampshire is great. we're about four months away i've so noimd new hampshire. there are a lot of things that both making sure that we bring divides and get things done that's what i hear from folks and i'll continue to be here. >> why is there a greater emphasis nothing against them because they are first. >> ner first. enjoying quite a bit time there and enjoying here as well. >> do you see a path forward if you don't make future debates given the dnc increased pressure on apology. >> in iowa 20% of iowans even watched the debates. we're still 120 days out from any voter expressing prrchs. i think there is time through this. this won't be decided by the debates. what i hear from folks time and time again is nothing meaningful came out of the debates. and they're often disthe
connected from people's lives. i think there is a lot of time in this. >> and you had a q 3 fund raising number saided that you would reply fo for public financing and become the first presidential candidate this race to do so can you speak more about that? have you applied is that the plan. >> i think we're in the process of applying. 15 of the candidates running for president said public financing should be part of this. the my career has been trying to deal with the corrupting money in the system. public financing allows a one dlarp donor to match the smaller one and it only makes sense. >> is that by design or necessity. >> look my plan was always along the way i think that the is sufficient. i think it's good for our democracy. >> talk about the debates. >> what do you make of this, you know this move by tulsi gabbard to skip the debate if the dnc
doesn't change the rules in protest to the criteria of the thresholds, saying they are basically rigged elections or rigged debates. >> look the dnc was well intentioned but i don't think the best the example is for campaigns to spend $5,060 to get get donors be with the in 2016 it was the threshold at 1%. i don't think that's the best way to actually pick a candidate. or it nominee. but who actually will pick the nominee is focusing on new hampshire, iowa and south carolina and naechd, the early states is what takes a big field and narrows it down. >> you came out today with an education plan. are you worried that the focus on the impeachment inquiry is going to prevent discussions about policy and nuance in that debate in this primary. >> i think the discussion about the impeachment inquiry has to happen. but i think that there are a lot
of issues out there that things like the great equalizer, public education, public participation in represent etch democracy that we can't take our eye off of, because as was even discussed in many of the questions this morning, after this president we still have a democracy to protect and to build. >> we talk about campaign cash a minute ago. do you have enough money to continue on to the primaries? >> i do. >> great. >> thank you, governor. >> thanks very much. >> whatever you do, don't -- >> thanks for your time. >> you bet. >> i don't want too redundant,
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