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panel. the microphone would collapse. a dutch ceo from unilever which is one of the biggest food i ail offices in the world, think. a dutch anglo company. he's been invited by ban general the secretary of the united nations to be part of the sustainability of the whole world. in a speech he delivered on the this year.thes couple of days ago, he said $750 s no excuse for billion in food waste a year. dollars$18 billion u.s. to feed the hungry.
this comes from the businessmen, is. of the biggest there so he's really sincere. convinced he is. nevertheless, 1/3 of our food is wasted. formight have other figures that. kilograms or pounds or whatever measurement ms. let's keep it at 1/3. lost or spliced. emissions to the nvironment, pesticides, fertilizers. fertilizers. methane. that's 23,000 more than the food, that's food amounts to
labor income, water, agriculture water.ads of it's the first user of waters, have lack of in the world as well. fertile soils get lost. in developing countries, of speaking about the early stages of food, which tommic of today. food lost in the harvesting technique, the transport. we could have other meetings to improve that part. there's an obligation of us all countries to ping that part of their work. but on the developed side of ountries, we're speaking of
supply chains. retailer, or of the the supplier, and the consumer, so that's us. for instance, the united states, the united kingdom, they food or with organic waste. it's the second material they landfill. netherlands, it's zero landfill. sometimes you need a lawyer. i'm a lawyer. well, sorry. not angry. yes.ionate, i am, it's time for action, i would say.
global level, global partnerships for development. hose of the developing countries like the scaling up of the nutrition initiative. tonight.s the topic of we need action at the local evel, multi-stake holder partnerships. partnerships. be.'s see what the aim could how close can we get to zero waste cycle. thank you very much. oh, yeah -- let me give the floor to the local food lamp then. michelle and christia. everyone. thanks for coming tonight. thank you to the consulate general of the netherlands for hosting us in this space. i wanted to thank our moderator, austin who's a partner of mine startups and food labs
for providing the treats. i want to echo the thank yous and let you guys nigh that in addition to hosting events like his one, we launched platform dedicated to bridging the gap between the talent and opportunities in the good food movement. so if there's anyone here who's a freelancer or consultant or a startup rk, or an organization or a business looking to hire interns or fulltime employees, invite codes. invite codes for everyone here. please grab one in the back. thank you for coming. i'm going to turn it over to austin. thank you so much. >> how's that. do you hear me?
thank you for all who are coming. the second event. i was lamenting the fact that the sun had gone down here. the view is spectacular. either.bad i wanted to start with baseline facts. they're staggering and it's easy to gloss over what they really represent. inwaste 40% of our food here the united states. consumers throw away 25% of what they bring home or eat at restaurants. 64 billion pounds of surplus food is dumped into land fills each year. that's 2.6 million garbage truckloads to put that in your mind. that's $165 billion and costs $750 million to service and dispose sof. an american family of four throws away $1600 of food at home each year. and i think you alluded to it nicely, but think about the waste that esource
represents, agriculture takes up 80% of ng on therder of the fresh water we use here in california. this is a big problem, one of the biggest out there. we have a great panel to address it tonight. i'm excited that the breadth and nting of what's represe here. begin by introducing everyone. trying to think of how to orient the conversation. about the supply chain of food and where the waste is occurring. it's important to know in the u.s., in the western world, consumer losses are a vast throwingof what you're away. this is what you're eating in estaurants or taking home and disposing of. there's a sizable amount of production loss. less loss.le, it's it still represents a vast amount of food. but food companies have an economic incentive to steward and shepherd that food officially, they're doing so. so we'll talk about everything
along the supply chain. turn thise, how do we off? great, i'll start by having themselves.troduce i'll introduce myself to start. y most recent affiliation, the stanford graduate school of business. a lot of time and energy issues and food. michelle on edible startups for addresses entrepreneurial innovation and the food space. we do not put it in boxes. we don't publish all that often. do more. to i'm working on two of my own startup jects, one is a in the food product space. let's give the focus where it belongs. introduce yourself. tell us about what your organization does. i'll kick it off. correctly? she is in public relations for the zero waste initial.
>> having me and the company presented here tonight. the zero waste energy is based on lafayette, california. it will be handling waste emphasis on th the organic waste. hat we focus on is our digestion technology which speeds up the composting process. and to a 21-day batch cycle. begins to hours it produce methane gas and all of days,igases, then after 21 all you have left is an agricultural quality compost. all of that gas that's been ollected is -- is transformed to either electricity or cng fuel.
>> that is eligible for inclusion. that's a goal set out by the government of california. utilities have to produce a third of their energy for 2020.able sources by this is an important component eeting the goal set by the state. >> it's a lead platinum certified facility. >> they're nailing it. all right. >> that's just one. i'll move on. >> co-founder of food cowboy. >> thank you for having us here. >> my brother and i started food cowboy along with barbara coen a
year and a half ago. barbara wrote the usd a's hunger assessment tool kit. and we pull this together because for about 20 years, when load ofhard had a quick produce, something -- carrots that are too short, he called me. pulled over, a desk job. i try to find a food bank or ynagogue or some place to take the food. mash.kpom yelp like technology could be used to help food banks and composters. they get rid of it quick. to get a sense of what the supply chain does, all of the food donated to all of the food feeding america the largest food bank network in the ountry, equals all year -- equals the supply chain in 19 days. o we could do a lot bert than
that. the government spends $ 0 million a year, $80 billion on food stamps. we spend $160 billion on food we throw away as consumers. recapture that o waste post consumer because of safety issues. chain, it's in transit and professionally handled. the missing element is information. without knowing where to take quickly, food is perishable. it's expensive to move. you can't do anything with it. the next step is to develop a -- to crowd source a food waste map of the entire united states. a all of the notes where the system.ks out of the someone who can use the food.
you.hank >> from foot stuffs. >> valley girl. >> valley girl. a chef turned insurance mentoring at hef risk teens. think that's the best way to give my history quickly. i started valley broke a year and a half ago after volunteering for five years with t in sonoma. and a lot of food was coming in the was being donated from local grocery stores and a lot of kids who liked to be in gangs were at the teen center and so i started a program there, a cooking program to teach some of the kids how to not get pregnant and not kill people by cooking. he grocery stores in sonoma were desperate for some place they could offload the food they
away.throwing and so we started picking up seven days a week through the quickly er and i realized that basically what was happening was all of the food was going to the teen center and promptly gone into the dumpster o they could not deal with the sheer mass of food that is tossed away at grocery stores. not even talking about all of of that.ction ahead so we're only talking about the 8%. my notes said 10% of food and retail is what's tossed out. that's all i'm dealing with is that 10%. in california, 50% of produce that is grown. i know there are people who grow food. there are people here who grow meat and people here who cook. so 52% of food that you see in our produce shelves is thrown away every year. so that is basically what i'm dealing with is that 52%. was teaching kids at the teen
center how to can and bake and and do all dehydrate of these old school skills that do anymore.how to there is a renaissance. i have seen it. however, when you work with a nonprofit, it is a nonprofit, which means there's no profit, which means nobody gets paid. these kids were doing a lot of work with no pay. they were showing up every single week to go to the farmer's market with me. i have four girls that showed up with me every single week. we stay up till 1:00 in the we go to friday, farmer's market at 8:00. these girls were amazing. a year and a half ago, i started a bids. nonprofit., not however, i partner with six nonprofits in sonoma. a week food four days from whole foods locally.
and i distribute that to the nonprofits. whatever they can't use, i make food with it with those kids. i brought some stuff. there's raisins back there that we make from the 80 million cases of grapes that we get every summer. season, i get n it. year a farm d this in sonoma. nowalley girl food stuff is valley girl food stuff and farm. organic.ified sort of a big process. we grow everything using organic and sustainable processes. that's my side job. my real job is being a state farm agent. >> very great mission.
very cool operation. hoping to hear more from you later. -- co-founder of a d star partners and co-founder of mindful investors. we'll talk about everything he does. >> won't talk about everything. but i'll share a few secrets with you about food waste reduction. day job -- a lot of us have investmentobs, is an fund calling mindful investors here we focus on investing in companies we call life impact. it's innovative breakthrough our ologies that impact lives and helps being a foundational aspect of what we do. he environment is a key area we're investing in, food, water, agriculture is another key area. years ago, stu, we're working on the food waste issue.
you p you with everything ask. involved withting them in the food waste production business. they look to this as the issue of how do we change the world? how do you reduce all of the waste that's occurring in every side of the food. animal t starting with protein. we spent a year and a half looking at this and said how can we do that, this product is a shelf stable product that's going to waste and bring them to the food channel, particularly that's on taking food going to be thrown away and getting low cost and then would bea product that great value for a consumer. stable be a shelf product. we were too early. and the first place you start with, quote, the low-hanging fruit and vegetables starting
we call it food star partners and we were encounter some smart people focus in this area. one of my partners, ron, is here. ron, say hello. ron has been working in the food over a siness for decade. focused on bringing food that is coming from farms and going to be wasted and bringing it into mostly the food banks and not sectors.t we created food star as echnology business and technology platform. a for profrt business focused on how do we take those and not throw them away. how do we take the food and put them to use and bring them for people to eat and in particular, is low-income communities where we try to focus. e created food star with the two spisk ideas. the first is ron has great rlgsship with farmers around the
valley that have a significant amount of food they're going to waste. they may be going to animal feed, juicing, or may not be picked. e're sourcing and finding the sources of fruits and vegetables and we bring those to retail markets. consumers lover it. it's great food. great fruits and vegetables. nutritional value. the great value to consumers. their employees love it. it's been an incredibly successful program. looking to expand it to the retailers in the west coast and expand it beyond the west coast. the second aspect is about technology. we're developing for third party
vendors and partners and leveraging technologies that are today to use technology as gordon said, as roger said, to improve the supply chain. there are a lot of tools that xists today to be able to improve the entire growth process and looking at ransportation, the time that food is spent at a distribution facility when it is in at your it's at the back room. how long it takes to get from the back room out to the shelf? shelf.g it's on the what's the life cycle of that food. ton is it likely to be going be bad. when is it becoming short code date. we're integrating the technologies. the shrink.d instead of a bag out there. of a plastic bag with
black bananas. getting it beforehand. letting customers know you can value by buying the products and we created flash sales. two or three times a week, they have flash sales notifying customers tomorrow at 4:00 p.m. from 4:00 to 5:00, we've got cucumbers.elons, and they're 60% to 80% off. they loved it. it's great product and value to them. kind of nging these ideas and technologies to the retail industry to produce food interested in bringing more of us that are together.n this this is a collaborative issue. work together. so one of the things we talked technology there's to reduce today, you can reduce in our home.
great interest for you all to be part of the solution. >> kelly, the program director at food shift. oakland-based nonprofit. we've been around for two years. is working to g redice food waste. we're interested in doing this ways.ouple of different the first step is the action. eople need to know about this problem, what we learned about ampaigns overseas is a lot of people have no idea about the problem of food waste or what to solve it. e're not only telling people about the environmental and the social consequences of the
them food, we're arming with tips and tools to reduce it. how do you help plan your meals involved andfamily moving food that's soon to be spoiled to the front of the fridge. what are some everyday tips and tools to kind of arm the way and e thinking about food meal planning? herbs. you store where's the proper place to put eggs from the farmer's market. programs we're launching in 2014. we're working with the oakland unified school district to do a unified recovery program. we work with parents on site. e work with food safety and handling. we take the food that's edible because federal meal plan regular lags can't be returned to the cafeteria. distribute the food out to kids, the schools that meet back to their students.
helps to rogram supplement their meal times. working on a program. we're inspired by valley girl kitchen, s, l.a. people familiar with those, and trying to figure out ways to make this problem into a solution. you know, we're not -- we're interest in the source production, which is obviously reducing food in waste, but food that is going to go to waste, food that can't be a grocery store, excess food from a restaurant hat they won't sell to a customer but is still otherwise edible. what can we do with that food to a w do we turn that positive?
how can we create a food generation model with food waste. >> perfect. >> patricia kelly from lean task. they go on at the paddle. we started with ashley at the end of the food chain. waste production systems. we live by three statements in the company. what you can't measure. can an control, but you influence post. i'm meeting someone that's new.
typically a presentation of ists of me providing all the information, the data that you heard so far. can't understand you manage what you can't measure, a lot of coaching and consulting to go with it. food has been identified to go scale.e, it has a on top of the scale, it's a camera. this tracker and tablet is it's ready steel so for the durable kitchen environment. his is how easy it is to work and transact. we have created a user nterface to reporting an analytic capability that's state of the art. we want to make sure that the technology is the best in the
world. equally important, we stop and say nobody will be successful without a cultural change. we do a lot of trading and coaching. all of this ultimately allows it baseline, understanding the melt rick. we establish goals and work with coaching and, you know, working day-to-day basis on how it affects procurement, how it affects men union planning and production. createdhese are systems through metric for management. >> to visualize it a little bit. at the website. there are nice photos. ou're selling to food service operations preparing large volumes of food. >> the end of q-1 in 2014, a audit app that's a mobile for those that -- for small owner operated businesses so as well.participate what you see on the website now, often, it's commercial. it's somewhere in excess cesc of
$250,000 a year. >> so, when they produce foods, capture, and ure, repurpose what used to be food waste in their own production supply chain. >> that is correct. >> you can see, a lot of different perspective here. ne common thread, a lot of economic gains to be had, whether it's in the nonprofit or for profit, that's the good news. 1 i think people stand to profit from doing something differently great momentum driver if you talk about making a hange in the industrial setting. i want to talk by starting with the low-hanging fruit, so to speak. it is an app because a lot of it produce.red on fresh fruits and vegetables spoil quickly. seafood is an area where there's a lot of loss. but i read a great report. i encourage y'all if you want to dig deeper, the national resource of defense council, a
woman works there named dana gunder. she's quite prolific. she put out a record called "wasted." the consumer losses over half of of theal food waste, 40% waste in the united states. t seems to be the area of greatest promise in terms of sheer volume of food. i know you're not the end consumer. ut how is your company addressing consumer losses and what is the biggest series of opportunity and the biggest challenges? a lot of this has to do with the established behavior patterns, the psychology. these are mushy areas where it's hard for a company to affect at the consumers are doing home and the point of consumption. >> at the place where we're working in that area, there's a lot of opportunity. right now, 60% of what's going to the landfills is organic
waste. in california, there's legislation that's telling requiring that land fills divert 75% from land fills by 2020. so the way we look at dealing with waste is first you check recycleables then your organics, then you have a small the end.of trash at and so -- the opportunity for that organics is just fantastic. i mean, i mentioned the 1.6 of have smallerbut we plants that is generating 100 kilowatts. we have a facility that we're working on right now that is converting it into cng fuel so one route of picking up trash for thatte enough fuel collection vehicle to run for the rest of the day. so the opportunities are grand and they're everywhere. biggest hat the obstacle is is twofold. one, getting the word out there.
so everybody knows this technology exists. it's economically feasible that there are just a host of benefits for it. it a en, what makings little more difficult is the collection side of it. n some places, you have the green bins, right? there.t your stuff in a lot of places don't have that yet. every waste district handles that a little differently. in the area where i'm from, we put our first facility, there's a restaurant program. a number of he -- the restaurants in the area have signed up and there's a special collection from those restaurants. the food waste from those the smaller uels facility that we have. it's in collection and as far as improving, it's all about education. not just education of the consumer, it doesn't matter if the consumer is educated if the
take that t there to separation and correctly convey t the whole way through to the digester. so it's a whole stream of education. >> great. you address the consumer in the home and the restaurants. was thinking of this, my experience with my roommate, half of them are good about turning out the light, composting, things that have a clear incentive thing to do, if you drove down the utility bills. the other half didn't seem to care. feel like the population is split along those lines. ow are you getting them to do things differently?
>> that is how they face this. ow are you aware of the different behave your changes. epa found one of the biggest motivators is not the financial concern. it's a lot of the individuals oakland.ork with in it's this innate feeling of sadness when you see wasted food. there's something that's within us that we can't name and is about.ult to talk that's something we're trying to tap in as well. so for us, we have are a couple of different angles that we talk about. 25% of the fresh water that's goes to ood production food we never eat. we talked about how 1 in 6 eople in alameda county don't know where the next meal is going to come from. most are chirp and senior citizens. we talk about the financial implications of 1600 and some estimates up to $2200 a year for the average consumer and what
they e spending in food never eat. biggish issue, stu spoke to is coalition. we need more food reduction programs. we need people gleaning from programs, all of those, you know, in everyday practice e get the food from what would be the trash can and into people's bellies. we need macrochange. talk about policy change, we need to evaluate the operates.recovery the other issue is, for example, the san francisco food runners is an amazing program. they have 200 volunteers. tonsmove something like 15 of food a week. dense.e just making a they are kind of in the mire we're in, we can't pay our
volunteers. how do we change that? one of the thingings we're orking on is creating a job training and recovery program -- job placement program. that way we can train people, we can pay them to go and process food. that money comes back not as profits, but goes back to the program. we can get another grocery store onboard. another restaurant onboard. another program that we're orking on in terms of restaurants. it's called satisfito, it brazil. in it's similar to bill half sis in austin, texas. but it's encouraging people to smaller portions. you have a restaurant that signs entree 2/3 ofer a the size of the original entree prize.e same that goes to end childhood hunger. all of the tactics need to work together. we need to work together to be able to have a client that comes
n and we have an issue, we can say, oh, i actually -- that's not what we do. they can l you how help your large scale grocery store deal with waist in 2er78s of source reduction. >> great, either of you want to chime in? one is fresh favor, one is blue apple. you can put with your prodeuce. they extend the shelf life five days up to three weeks. there are technologies that have been developed that you can use home.r there's also a coating of fruits and vegetables in the vegetable-based shell. and there's innovative practices
will say forward thinking companies are using. you might have seen the product in the markets organic salad business. oxygen ated some deprivation. so it reduces the amount of in food. that occurs they're focused on as soon as it's picked, picked at 2:00. within 24 hours that product is in your store. there are ways for the growers to hell. when you have the stuff that's make ayou can cut it up,
sauce or soup from it. lot of things to increase this figure. >> there's a lot of writing on this. but food labels, expiration dates, there's no uniformity and standard there. it's up to the food manufacturer what the write and what date to put on there. and that anchor point may mean something or may not. typically it's a date to signify when it should move out of retail but it may have another plus in or a month refrigeration life. in want to speak to education in that space? speak to that in a little bit. to your first question, one of as things i can say as far education, get some teenagers onboard. and tell get out there everybody what you're telling them. and make their parents do what
them to do. they're effective and they're persistent as well. when e super irritating they get on their soap box. one of the things that i've been trying to work on as far as, you know, what do we do with all of this food? and so, for instance, you're talking about recipes for different things. bananas that like come in. salad greens are constant. bananas, however, once they look a certain way, people don't want them. aesthetics.ely it's nothing do with taste or what you can do with the banana, it's got only to do with the fact that it's got brown on it. trying to re-educate people around aesthetics can be really difficult. i would say like generational. you can't get there.
trying to be innovative in that the foods, salad greens i could not know what to deal with. you have to eat them or compost them. banana, i discovered different ways i can use them. processthe re-education for me is for me as well. o what i'm noticing is i have to change the way i have to think about creating something them.t of i'm fine with brown bananas. taste good myself, i know some people don't. if you have five cases of brown bananas, suddenly hate them with a passion. eight recipes i have figured out. you have to hem, pay me lots of money.
the education process is not just educating other people, ourselves educating as well. i think i just circumvented your question. >> you go girl. >> at any rate, the education process does start at home first. it starts with ourselves and asking certain kwis about what it is that we will eat. noticed is the at risk kids i work with -- and these kids are -- these are from families where the homes are broken. the mother might be in jail because she did something to the dad or the dad might be in jail because he did something to the mom. mom. these kids didn't often eat at night. what they do eat is what was just donated to me.
they need food. go to the local high school where the kids have the money. much.don't need food so he two different demographics, the kids who need food that you think don't know anything are ore open to what i have to say than the kids who have food. that blew me away. come 't expect kids who from good families. they don't want to change what they do. it's too hard -- too hard to stick something in the refrigerator to keep your food turning around. that's the attitude a lot of these kids had. i was like you little punk. i went to the at risk kids,
they listened to me. they weren't being inundated or media, ipad, iphone inanny or whoever. they would listen to what i said and would make a change. the tomato they all use in their house holds hispanic and re cut the brown spot off of it away.r than throw it dad would not throw the tomato away. e're talking about cultural differences here. fact of the matter it's changing. i'm small. employees this year because i'm cycling it through my insurance business. i did see change. it's possible in the education process we're talking about, it work and lot of passion.
so if we can clone my dna, we can do that. losses that are less between production and post consumer. problem, have a though. ou deal with the consumer pickiness issue. can you talk about alleviating losses in the retail. is this a pure economics question. you drop the price low enough, people are happy to take it. crave value where there was none and the distribution part of the supply chain? working? you seen what doesn't?
>> from 1.5% profit to 0.7% loss. waste is essential right now to america. wasting food, the ntire industry would go to cardiac arrest. 10% of the fresh water, 8% of the sh water, energy, 25% of the land. we didn't get to the situation overnight. we have to restructure the economy. that's a long term process. it has to be done because of the resources we're burning through. we're trying to develop a system new sectors. in for example, recapture some of
the industry. use it as compost. existing ot of dollars.t and lobbying the other thing is we come to as a monolithic thing. in the last year, did you feel hungry or did you worry about is coming ext kneel from. hat'se kwatding people on the streets with people who just lost a job. so there are programs in
there. college students are not just dropping off the meal, they're eating. together.ok people if you look at it as a logistics will boil down to a cultural problem. e have a starting l.a. kitchen advisor. he brought it up to speed logistically. changed the face of the history. he said you can have all of the apps you want. down to y it comes culture. it has to sustain to build a new economy and build a new culture. that is the goal.
you do it. >> roger is saying this is all about economics at some point. it's hard for the farmer, the retailer, to really look at this and justify making investments relatively entrenched industries to say how nt we make this more efficie and profitable for us. i think the key driver we're of ng starting this is more a moral issue. people are saying we want to do well. e want to look at this issue and say how can we reduce the waste? no one wants to throw the food away. so for example we approached riginally the first customer was walmart. we took the idea to walmart. walmart throws away -- i'm not going to quote the numbers. the numbers are insanely high the amount of food they throw away. they know it. they measure every piece of food
through the system. what they ended up doing is realizing there was an opportunity for them to change, chain and lookly at the purchasing patterns and ow they take certain product, instead of taking and distributing all of the the cts, to hold some of product they know they won't be able to a sell it because they ought so mush, they never have enough consumer demand for it because they get so much at great prices. o hold it there, to figure out ways to take that product and bring it into more often than for profit opportunity and donate that food which they're donating the again, so, so nce large. they are interested and caring they want to do this. it's a feel good basis. they need to show that the reallycs behind this are important. they're really valuable. it's not just about what's lost.
there is true profit margin opportunity. so those are some of the tools forward to ringing show they're beautiful economics nd we don't have to accept the fact we're going to throw away a certain amount of our foods. >> talking about walmart. walmart from arkansas can tell coolers has a leaky seal. hey know when the seals are broken because they don't like to waste money. most food banks can't tell you where the trucks are. you get to be late for walmart once. food banks are open 9:00 to 5:00 monday through friday. they don't are the money. every food bury bank in produce every day of the week. the food banks are the problem. they don't have the resources to move that food. they should be in the composting
business so there's always an answer to the problem and aggregate some place that you can get about bringing about gas than you generate. very culture in the world will do it. possible on the business end. i ran a nonprofit for years. you never get them to think, you like do how would you it? policy, do you give the resources to do what you say you want them do. not just about shovelling food into a hopper or dropping off there r people and say you go. a real question. right ant to take it the way? >> we have multiple colleges,
niversities, health care, casinos, hotels. but the most we've had the most challenging time with are the retail. thanave more exposure when i do. first of all, its's a concept of negligence therefore it could lead to job and security. there are a lot of reasons, it all comes down to economics. as i listen to the conversations and the objections, it seemed to come to a psychology they didn't want to confront the metric, they didn't want to see the numbers. they weren't ready. they didn't want to have a solution once they saw the numbers in black and white. we're struggling with it. we know there's a huge amount there. the smaller they are, the more receptive. mean, gger they get, i like i said, it's a group thing here. they're exposing me to stuff that i hasn't thought to. technologies are not ready to see that in black
and white. things.s are stubborn make your way to the back. there's a microphone there. have a commonnion food waste policy along 2700 countries. target 50% waste production and food chain input by 2020. that's an aggressive goal coming n the heels of the least productive session of the u.s. congress in recorded history. is there something we can hope u.s. on par with it? federal or state level, food waste production products? or is it something that people in the audience should be asking ocal representatives or officials to do to grease the wheels for your various goals. missing that hing the government could spur in food waste?
>> as i mentioned before, in the state of california, there is actually legislation that is pushing the waste sector to deal with organic waste, or a diversion from landfills by 2020. really make people confront that. we have seen interest in other places, where people are realizing there is an economic benefit to do it. we are starting to see that type of legislation in the united states. one thing i would say about europe as well is, the biogas -- the european biogas association or german biogas association -- they have digesters and are expecting that to increase to 2000 by 2020. they are putting a big emphasis on biogas. we are seeing that in california, and it is creeping up other places.
there really will be movement in that direction. >> a section of the irs code needs to be changed to give a credit. that will spur a lot of movement. the federal food waste reduction act is the most hypocritical thing you have ever read. the administrators will require the contractor to take measures to reduce food waste and to recover food. they said the administrator shall in no way create -- take financial responsibility for those efforts. if that were true, you guys would be able to find yourselves like that. make some change. >> i already said it. get the teens. >> we launched a petition to the epa administrators.
there was a project called "the food too good to waste toolkit." it is aimed at municipalities, but expanding. we want them to put their backing and funding behind this toolkit. there are people giving cooking lessons. there are training programs for people who are interested in spreading the word about food may -- food waste and what you an do with that. go to our website and sign that petition, and help us get epa unding behind the toolkit. >> i am sorry to say there is not any optimism there. to become educated is the process. the more we become educated in understanding what we can do in our own personal life and personal homes, and how we can integrate that. and for the businesses, understand how it is
truly an economic benefit for them, whether it is profit driven or marketing, branding, and feeling good about it. that is the approach we think is going to drive the change we need to see happen. >> i am not confident on the federal level, but i have a lot of confidence in the system, dealing with a lot of municipalities that are very accurate -- very active. they are putting bans on local organics in the landfill. right now, it is very bottom-up. >> i am very pleased with the level of specificity. we had the tax code cited over there. >> one of the things that i think is very important is how we frame this. we say, there are lots of problems with food waste. there are lots of problems everywhere. ut there is not just a
problem. there are opportunities now. all of us are in things now that did not exist before. i am sure you are involved in movements that did not exist before. this is not just about the problem of food waste. it is about the opportunities that did not exist before, making sure people are aware of the opportunities. people hear about problems every day. but what could happen there that was not before? that is where we could make headway. >> is the thing that kept hitting me is that the problem is with retail. so other than the really wonderful thing about the flash sales, what i'm wondering is if
the retail system is so broken, what do we do to create a new way of selling food that doesn't have so much waste? i would rather see us redesign a way of selling food to people that doesn't have so much waste than figuring out what we do with the waste. let's go back one step in the problem. my company is less than a year old and we have between 3 and 6% waste already and most of that is going to my employees. that's my question to you. >> there is a man maybe you all have heard of him doug rowl. he's the previous president of trader joe's. doug has been focusing on food waste reductions. it's an educational process to know just because this date is stamped does not mean that the food is not good or you have a
health risk. there needs to be greater education about that. what doug is looking at doing is he's in the midst of trying to create a retail store that sells all expired or short code dates and he gets them sold to him as dramatic discounts and people come and shop and get great values for products that are fine to eat. i think as you said, the solution is the key issue and there are many solutions we can look at. i think it's just really up to us. we look at the bulk buying we do at costco and sam clubs, the amount of waste that can occur there is enormous. they provide great value to us but often it's just too much. so we have to think about that and look at how we as consumers can reduce our purchasing.
it's fascinating in food service, what is beginning to happen is food service is looking at this and they are donating a lot of their food. e thing that is brilliant is fidel said how do we look at this food waste reduction issue, number one reduce the size of trash cans and reduce the amount of trash cans and they saw the food waste be reduced by 50% by that simple technique alone. i'm not sure if i'm answering your question but there are ways we can do this better and smarter and it's just accepted. the shrink, people say that's just what happens because that is what has always been done. but the youth are saying no more of that. the old ways are broken and we're going to do what we can going forward. we have young entrepreneurs creating technologies that can enable us to be more educated about our choices and to take
action to reduce the waste that is occurring. >> i think doug's idea needs a lot of work. food has outty. food waste has utility. food is not just caloric in value. the idea of having food that the rest of us won't eat and taking it to the hood and have them eat it is poor compared to the idea of changing our behaviors. taking care of the environment, reducing food waste is not the duty of the poor and shoveling it to them i think institution lieses the problem and ratifieses the no, sir cystic value of effect of those best buy, sell by dates. >> i want to add one more thing. i think i would love to see that the eat local campaign took off and people would go to a local
restaurant because they have that local owned business, something along a food waste warrior would take off for a retail store. we see places working on waste reduction in how they buy and display their food. instead of a grocery store put a mound of grape fruits put a cardboard box with grape fruits on top of it. these entrepreneurs say how can we display food differently, how do we order food differently? having people say -- berkeley bowl was my other example, they are greet about taking produce that is about to turn and do value bags. for a dollar you get a huge amount of value. i go to stores that have that same mind set around food waste.
shifts in those ways we need as well. >> there are a lot of points of optimism touched upon here. i think this concept of nudging and behavioral economics is a promising area of study. there is a lot of structure changes that will change people's behavior. the trash can is a good one. think about how you can impact your own environment. thank you for being a great audience. thank you to our panelists. some have to rush off but there is more wine and beer i think. stick around and continue the conversation. thank you again to our host. national captioning institute] [applause] able satellite corp. 2013] >> ong the next "washington journal" washington examiner senior writer will talk about
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>> lincoln did not decide early until last minute lincoln very often did. he probably met with the pennsylvania governor curtain on november 14 and that's i think when lincoln realized he had to decide and he did decide to go. he then probably on the night of november 17, just as he said to his old friend james speed, the brother of his dear friend. lincoln told james speed the night of november 17 i found time to write half of a speech. i think there is good evidence lincoln was not invited early and wrote the speech late. that does not mean it was not important to him. he invited a lot of people to go. he took care and attention over his words once he knew he was going. >> events and circumstances
surrounding abraham lincoln's getsburg address. sunday at 11:00 a.m. eastern part of american history tv this weekend on c-span 3. >> next c-span's year in review series continues with a look at the federal bunlts and government shutdown. followed by a discussion on the obama administration 2014 legislative agenda. then the role of women leaders in politics. >> the beginning of october 2013 was a perfect storm of politics and policy with implementation of many elements of the health care law and the beginning of the new fiscal year. there was a 16 day government shutdown as a result. on the next hour of c-span's year in review, we bring you
some floor debates. we show you senator ted cruz of texas and his filibuster in the u.s. senate. we will begin with a conversation with a woman who covers issues on political hill. how did the health-care lobby, this linchpin for -- at least on the house side -- for the shutdown in october? >> that was a big part of this year. epublicans have tried multiple times to stop come delay, or efund president obama's health care law. the website was coming online in the health care exchange coming online. it was there last best effort to try to prevent the affordable care act from taking -- becoming -- coming to fruition.
they stall the government spending bill as the best vehicle as her last best chance to make a stand. they did. >> this is a continuing resolution to keep the government funded until the new fiscal year. >> exactly. there have been some of the disagreements over how to fund the government. this has been a long-running difference of opinion over what level to fund government at and how far to cut back in different programs. they're unable to resolve that. they decided to punt. this is a fairly routine bill. >> and that political stand was to delay the implementation of part of the health care law. when october 1 came around, republicans kept trying different tactics to change the
health care law. is that correct? any traction in the senate? >> that is a good question. in the senate, it was interesting. he saw attended -- senator ted cruz from texas make a stand. engage in this long filibuster ampaign. that strategy was something that house republicans latched onto. speaker john boehner and others thought that it was not going to be a winning strategy. you have divided government right now. even if they could pass out of congress, which seemed unlikely, the law would be defunded or delayed, president obama would probably never signed that kind of a bill. it was a strategy without a
complete end to accomplish the goal up. >> you mentioned house and republicans -- to accomplish the goal. >> you mentioned the two parties. they started introducing many ppropriations bills. funding veterans programs and the national parks. why did they try to go that route? >> as much as people love or hate the government, shutting down national parks and routine government services was not popular. workers are getting furloughed. it is having an economic hit. people can come to the national mall to see the museums or go to the national parks or have family vacations. what the house decided to start doing this to pass as many
appropriations bills. let's fund the part of the government that provides money for veterans national park service. small, individual bills that would be the focal for democrats to vote against. it was difficult for them to vote against it. many voted for them. use off bipartisan votes coming over. it was one after the other everyday during the shutdown. harry reid let them sit because democrats were not willing to play that sort of strategy. if i would be better to let the thought he would be better to let the shutdown work its course. >> some of the house floor
debate and comments from the president of head of the shift.com this is late in september. -- and the president ahead of the shutdown. this is in late september. >> millions of americans across the country are struggling to find good paying jobs and their struggling to pay their bills. their frustration with government continues to grow. these hard-working middle-class americans are counting on their elected representatives to show leadership. this continuing resolution will keep the government funded at it current level without increasing spending will congress finishes working on a real budget. americans are tired of seeing the government continue to spend more and more of the hard-earned tax dollars. for the first time since the korean war, it will be possible
to have two consecutive years of discretionary spending cuts. this resolution will also protect the working middle class from the devastating effects of obamacare. each week, we hear stories of how both major employers in small businesses are cutting back benefits and hours. the president health care law is turning our economy to a part-time economy. these are the heads of major unions that were once so supportive of obamacare want to see this log drastically changed o avoid further -- law which is to avoid further -- let's protect the american people from the economic calamity that we know obamacare will create. americans are fighting for their families. they were sent by our constituents to fight for hem.
they have put faith in their leaders to do what is right. for this congress, the house has led on restoring faith in our economy and trust in our government. we should pass this continuing resolution so the senate and finally begin to do the ame. thank you to the gentleman from kentucky for his work on this measure, along with the help of the gentleman from louisiana, for their hard work on the issue. i urge my college to support this resolution. -- my colleague to support this esolution. >> the gentlelady is recognized. >> i'm pleased to yield to mr. steny hoyer. >> he is recognized for three minutes. >> thank you for yielding. adam speaker, today we are considering a measure to fund overnment only -- madame
speaker, today we are considering measure to find government only that will help millions of americans access affordable care. is a blatant act of hostagetaking. the republican cr lays the groundwork for a default on our hat. an unthinkable act instituting a pay china first provision. fully embraces the dangerous and irrational policy. this confirms the descent into an economy destroying, national security undermining, and ineffective rendering of our country and our people needs.
majority party with its destructive obsession with the repeal of the affordable care act in its unrestrained hostility toward government has -- the republicans hollow claims f irrationality of its quality -- the majority does so otwithstanding the chairman. third description of sequester policy -- "unrealistic and ill-conceived." his words, not mine. a policy that chairman rogers said, "must be brought to an end." his words, not mine. do just the opposite. they will vote to continue a policy that will lead to american decline in retreat. i will not be party to that his investment in america's greatness. today's bill undermines the education of our children, the
security of seniors, and the present and future health of our eople and the strength and readiness of our forces and the rowth of our economy and the reation of jobs. the quality and volatility -- the quality and health of our environment and respect for those who labor in the public sector and most certainly the honoring of america's debt and obligations. today's bill undermines all of those priorities and more. i will not support it. i urge my colleagues to oppose it. it continues us on the path so aptly described again as chairman rogers as "this lurching path from fiscal racist
to fiscal crisis." i urge my colleagues with wisdom and courage on your side of the out to oppose this bill. >> madam speaker, the american people are accounting on us to do our jobs, to work together, to create jobs, to keep the government open and to keep the economy running. this is not the time or the bill for relitigating health reform or for holding up the administration's ability to protect the full faith and credit of the united states of america. with the great suffering in the wake of a natural disaster in colorado -- my heart goes out to all of those families who lost lives and loved ones and property -- this is not the time to limit the ability of the united states of america to give relief to those losing loved ones, homes, and
livelihoods. republicans refuse to work together with the senate and the white house to bring a construct to piece of legislation to this floor today. instead we consider a bill that we know is destined for failure in the senate and would be vetoed by the white house. for months, the majority has failed to lead. they refuse to appoint members to work with the senate on a top line spending umber. they cannot even pass their own spending bills in this chamber. e remember how the important transportation bill had to be
pulled off of the floor because hey could not find the vote. today they risk halting overnment services and functions vital to the american people and our economy. you wonder on appropriations chairman, mr. rogers said that e should end the sequester and find a balanced forward. there is still -- they are still playing political games. i urge my colleagues to oppose this bill and support the responsible replacement of the sequester with a balance plan to create jobs and keep our economy moving. i know we can do it. i would be pleased to to be part
of that partnership with the chair, mr. rogers. >> the gentleman from kentucky s recognized for two remaining minutes. >> thank you. madam speaker, we are doing a cr even though the appropriations committee on the house side past 11 of the 12 bills through the committee. four of them across the floor in the house. the remaining ones for aforetime as we run out of time. consequently. this continuing resolution will continue the government passed he september 30 and of the fiscal year.
we were unable to pass the appropriations bills singly on the floor because of a lack of time, but also because the house and senate never agreed to an overall number of which we could mark. consequently, we were not able to bring those bills out because f that limitation. with this cr until december 15, if we were given a number with the senate in which we need to mark the individual 12 bills. we will do so. this is a hard-working committee. we are pragmatists. we know that we have to pass the bills to fund the government.
we are intending to close down the government and shut it down. we would sit here. this is an effort by the majority party in the house to continue the government and avoid a shutdown what we work out differences on these funding bills for fiscal 2014. madam, speaker -- madam speaker, this resolution is straightforward, clean, short term, continues reduction and federal discretionary spending. we have cut discretionary spending the last two years by $120 billion, the first one that has occurred since world war ii. we are trying to be responsible. this bill is responsible and i urge a yes vote. >> unfortunately there is a faction on the far right of the republican parties -- party. they convinced the leadership to threaten a government shutdown and potentially threaten not raise the debt ceiling if they cannot shut off the affordable
care act also known as obamacare. hink about this. they're not talking about spending cuts. they're not talking about entitlement reform. they are talking about something that has nothing to do with the budget. right? they are willing to plunge america into default if we cannot defund the affordable care act. let's put this into perspective. the affordable care act passed both houses of congress and was an issue in last your posse election. the guy running against me said he would reform it. we won.
the voters were pretty clear on it. republicans and congress try to repeal or sabotage this more than 40 times. every time they failed. this law that is in place is providing people benefits. it is helping millions of americans, including some of you or your family members that you may not be aware of. beer job. don't be the other guy. be the guy who is doing your job. no obstruction, no games, no holding the egg to nominate -- i'm sorry, economy hostage -- if ou do not get 100% of what you want. i do not know how may people are married, but you know not to expect when hundred percent of what you want. otherwise you will be divorced really quick. especially you man, i'm telling you. -- you men, i'm telling you. you should expect some compassion and compromise. you should expect the condition of leaders to wake up and go to
work everyday and not to tear something down, but to build something better. hat is my conviction and commitment to you. hink of how it to get you back to the point where this country is where we want it to be. > at this point we have seen small businesses all around this country who are losing their ability to compete, who are not expanding and staying under 50 employees, who are not hiring or who are forcing employees to ove to part-time work. in a survey of small businesses,
half of small businesses eligible for the employee mandate are either moving to part-time workers are forcing full-time workers to go part time. this is not a small problem. it is not a marginal problem. it is a problem all over the country. are talking millions of small businesses. they are not growing. that means they are not hiring people. everywhere in america where they are struggling to find a job, small businesses are trying out that obamacare is killing hem. unfortunately, the u.s. senate is not hearing their cries. the millions of americans being forced into part-time work. the u.s. senate is not hearing their cries. billions of americans are facing skyrocketing health care premiums and facing the reality risk of losing their health insurance.
the u.s. senate is not hearing their cry. the people who are facing this are not wealthy or powerful or the millionaires and billionaires. there are young people who are eing absolutely decimated by obamacare. the are single moms working in diners and finding their work hours been reduced to 29 hours a week. single moms are crying out to the senate to fix this trainer. fix this disaster. i'm fortunate, the u.s. senate is closed for business. -- unfortunately, the u.s. senate is closed for
business. >> the shutdown is about rolling back our efforts to provide health insurance to folks who don't have it. it is all about rolling back the affordable care act. this is to what the republican party stands for these days. it is strange that one party would make keeping people unsure the centerpiece of their agenda. that is apparently what it is. where is strange is shutting down our government -- the affordable care act passed. it was a central issue in my election. it is settled and here to stay.
it is not impacted by government shutdown. americans are with me today because of the credit affordable care act is now open for business. -- a big part of the affordable care act is now open for business. it has been a long time coming. americans who have been forced to go without insurance can isit healthcare.gov admin role in affordable coverage. people have six months to sign up. it -- and enroll in affordable coverage. people have six months to sign p. making it covered they esperately need. -- they can get coverage they desperately need. >> as reckless as a government hutdown is, and economic
shutdown that results from default would be dramatically worse. social security textile go out on time. and economic -- social security checks go out on time. in an economic shutdown, they do ot go out on time. and the government shutdown, millions of americans -- veryone faces real, economic hardship. in economic shutdown, pensions and home values and rising interest rates on student loans, all of those things could send us into a bad recession. it would affect all of you. that is not my analysis. it is every economist out there
saying that. we have never done it before. the u.s. is the center of the world economy. if we screw up, everyone gets good to the whole world will have problems. -- it we screw up, everyone gets screwed up. he whole world has problems. it would be the height of irresponsibility. i will repeat -- there will be no negotiations over this. >> did not come here to shut down the government or to fall on our debt. when it comes to the debt limit, 27 times the debt limit has been used to carry significant policy changes that would reduce spending and put us on a saner
fiscal path. reagan's said down with o'neal n the 1980s. -- reagan sat down with o'neal in the 1980s. clinton went through the three times in the 1990s. obama and i sat down in 2011 and had a serious negotiation. while he suggested i walked away from the deal, i have to remind him that i was in the oval office along with the majority leader eric cantor when we had an agreement in two days later
the president walked away from it. for it was another negotiation that resulted in the largest deficit bill we have seen in 30 years. in 2010, what happened was a group of moderate democrats would not agree to raise the debt limit without a negotiation. there was a negotiation amongst democrats. there is going to been alone -- going to be a negotiation here. we need to do something about what is driving us to our own more money and to live beyond our means. -- borrow more money and to live beyond our means. >> i would rather be 4000 miles way from here. this is the first time in 28 years i have not been in the bering state. i'm here today on behalf a fisherman.
armored talk specifically about the impacts of my fisheries. -- i am here to talk specifically about the impacts of my fisheries. there's a lack of personal to perform routine, administrative functions. it will result in millions of lost revenue. the federal reserve program will be impacted the longer the shutdown continues. many fishermen coastal communities are facing tough times. this at them may be the tipping point if the situation is not resolved soon. -- situation may be the tipping point if the situation is not resolved soon. king crab stock is healthy. fisher results in hundreds of millions economic timothy that provides thousands of jobs for fishermen, processors, and support businesses such as welders, shippers, distributors, retailers. i want to be clear -- they fund
the costs through government programs. we are taxed to cover management costs. no one has left over money that could be used to pay for the personal we need to issue permits. despite this fact, -- we asked the secretary of commerce to ind the authority and direct employees to do the task we have paid for. delay in the opening of the fishery would have significant impacts on alaskan coastal kenyan 80s. each day tied to the docs, no cost them thousands more. the short-term impacts are
relatively easy to measure. the longer-term impact of the scary part. the majority of our craft, we rely in the holiday market, both in the u.s. and japan. if the crab is not caught and processed and shipped out by the second week of november, we stand to lose access to that market. we cannot afford to lose anymore to meet that deadline. in the case of the japanese markets, we stand to lose market share. if the japanese buyers do not have a lasting product on hand for the new year holiday, they will get their crops from russia. market watchers are noticing uncertainty in the japanese. it is unsustainable -- unsustainably managed and subject to pirate fishing. pirate fishing is causing us an
estimated 500 million. if the shutdown continues, that amount will only increase. time is critical. there are many small family run businesses that make up the alaskan crab fleet. my brother is on the boat with me. i could depend on me to be their families. e have a racking up bills to get ready to go fishing. if we are tied to the docs and waiting for the government, we cannot pay those bills. on behalf of all fishermen, i'm asking congress to shut the -- end the shutdown now. need to go fishing. >> the shutdown of the government for the last 16 days are so, i deal has evolved -- a deal has evolved.
are some key details of the deal? >> congress did what they often do when they can agree. they sort of punted. because there were such a difference between the spending level that republicans wanted, they agreed to temporarily fund the government for another short while until january 15 at current operating levels. it was not as high as democrats sought and not as low as republicans sought. in the interim, have the house budget committee and the senate budget committee but the two budget plans together in a conference committee and try to egotiate an agreement. that group headed by republican paul ryan and you be vice president joel convery -- vice
presidential candidate -- they had six weeks until today. december 13 was very deadline ut off for a deal. as you can imagine, expert haitians were low that they could come up with something that expectations are low that they could come up with something. >> they a deal a couple of days ago. that has since passed the u.s. house. in the senate, it is to be determined if it gets past. >> absolutely. it looks like you will probably have -- in the senate in the coming days. some have called them very modest deals. very different from the big bargains that president obama and other people had tried to
negotiate over the years. bring the nation's fiscal picture in a better place. hey came up with a plan. it passed the house. there's a strong, robust majority. it is heading to the senate. conservative republicans are not n board with this. the most conservative, hardliners are not on board. there are some who gave their boat to this. -- vote to this. some democrats gave their ote. democrats, they will still need republican support to get to that 60 votes threshold to overcome a possible filibuster.
>> that is one third. the amid the deadline on the conference report. anuary 15 is the date by which the current temporary spending ends. in early february, the debt ceiling. >> right. they got the package through the senate. cap to pass this one more time in january when congress on -- they have to pass this one more time in january when congress comes back. they need to keep funding for the government or it would shut down again. they have got to take this agreement and put it into the spending bills. looking ahead, is this a new era in congress? has a cycle of lurching from crisis to crisis come to a close?
the majority is still out on that. raising that nation possible limit has been a difficult issue. it is uncertain if that will appen again. they have every seven to raise that limit. more than $17 trillion in debt right now. that is something not a lot of people want to do. they also don't want to default on accrued bills that the nation needs to pay. the treasury department could probably keep thing the bills and stretch that out a bit. i think that will be the next hurdle and when that arrives -- we will see how they handle that. >> we are bound to see a similar debate we saw from harry lead in
the senate and mitch mcconnell from earlier this fall. >> the eyes of the world has een on washington. hat is a gross understatement. they witness great discord. so see congress reach a historic bipartisan agreement -- they will also see congress reach a historic bipartisan agreement. it is never easy for two sides to reach consensus. it is really hard. this time it is really hard. after weeks spent facing off a divider seems too wide to cross, our country came to the brink of disaster.
in the end, we prevented that disaster. thank the republican leader for his effort to reach this agreement. the cooperation was essential to pass both chambers of congress and also be signed by president obama. this legislation says there'll be a conference committee that will set our country on a ong-term, fiscal sustainability. some say that will be hard. what we do is hard, but we can get it done. the committee members selected will serve no matter how painful. this conference committee led by chairman murray and chairman ryan for me in december as an
appropriate place to chart a course for economic growth. it averts default if every seven. congress can work toward a long-term agreement to fix this crisis and perhaps most importantly, this is not a time for pointing fingers or blamed. this is a time of reconciliation. look forward to working with my olleagues of both parties of this great capital and -- avert a default on our nation's debt. what we have done is send a message to americans from every one of our 50 states that the
u.s. lives up to its obligations. now we must return to the most important job -- fostering economic growth and protecting middle-class families. do know this -- senator mcconnell and i have sat in serious discussions the last few days. e will do everything we can to change the atmosphere in the senate and accomplish things that need to be done for our country. >> madam president. >> republican leader.
>> this has been a long challenging week. it is my hope we can put some of those issues behind us. after yesterday's advance, the majority leader and i began a series of conversations about the way to get the government reopened and to prevent default. i'm confident we will be able to do both of those things later today. crucially, i'm confident we will be able to announce we are protecting the government spending reductions that both parties agreed to. it has been a top priority for e and for my colleagues on the republican side of the throughout this debate. it has been worth the effort.
some have suggested that we break that promise as part of this agreement. some have said washington needs to spend more and that we need to raise taxes and tax our way to prosperity. what the -- showed is that washington can cut spending. that is just what we have done. for the first time since the korean war, the first time since the korean war, government spending has declined for two years in a row. the first time in 50 years. we are not going back on this agreement. there is a lot more we need to do to get our fiscal house in order. once we have gotten over the drama the moment, we can get to work on it. let's understatement importance of the budget control or the importance of the fight. this is the largest spending bill of the last quarter-century.
preserving this law is critically important to the future of our. throughout this debate, republicans focused on obamacare for good reason. this was ravaging our economy and killing jobs and driving opinions and driving people off of the health care plans they had and like in droves. it is a disastrous rollout any sign of things to come. their refusal to -- it will do untold damage to our country. republicans remain determined to repeal this terrible law. or today, the relief we hope for is to reopen government, avoid default, and protect the
historic cuts we have achieved under the budget control act. this is far less than many of us have hoped for, frankly. it is far better than what some had sought. it is time for republicans tonight behind other crucial goals. i yield the floor. >> i rise tonight in support of the senate compromise legislation being considered to end this unnecessary government shut down. this legislation reopens the government and prevent a catastrophic the fall and credit downgrade that would spur another recession. 'm pleased that cooler heads
have finally prevailed. it is disappointing we are in the situation. after more than two weeks as the government shutdown and on the eve of default, we have reached an agreement. this legislation must be supported. it should not be celebrated. no hive man -- high fives are spiking of the football. it is a temporary bill. it is not a win for anyone. the bill represents the conclusion of a difficult period of which many can draw important lessons. we must keep the government unctioning and address the out-of-control debt and the many challenges resented by the ealth care law, obamacare. i work tirelessly with colleagues to find an agreement.
thank you two senators -- to the senators and many others in his conversation. essed in this country. i urge my colleagues not only to vote in favor of this legislation tonight but to join with those of us who share in affirmative obligation to govern and who seek bipartisan solutions to the challenges facing our great nation. at this time i yield back. thank you. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from kentucky reserves. the gentlewoman from new york is recognized. mrs. lowey: madam speaker, i'm very pleased to yield one minute to the distinguished gentleman from pennsylvania, a member of the appropriations committee, mr. fattah. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from pennsylvania is recognized for one minute. mr. fattah: thank you, madam speaker. i rise to urge expedited passage of this legislation. i join with the chairman and the
ranking member of my committee and i agree with every words that has been stated by the majority chairman and the ranking member. this is critically important. on this monday i was in a foreign country, i was in the state of israel, met with the president and with a whole group of brain researchers from around the world. they had difficulty understanding, given our nation's leadership on so many critical issues, that we could be at a paralyzed situation. so i'm happy that the senate has acted in such an overwhelming way op on this matter, with some -- way on this matter, with some 81 bipartisan votes, and i would urge the house to restore our government, to pay our bills, and to get on with our responsibilities. as the most powerful nation in the world, the wealthiest country in the world, we can pay our bills and we can conduct the affairs of government in a way that gains us res
oft the threat of default america not paying all the bills that we owe on time increased are powering -- our borrowing. the american people's frustration with what goes on in this town has ever been higher. the american people are completely fed up with washington. at a moment when our economic recovery demands more jobs, more another, we have yet self-inflicted crisis. for what? >> as we wrap up, a reminder all
of the problems we show you and the video is available on a website. >> would you be a member of the tea party caucus? >> probably not. i would think that on this last budget agreement, as a perfect example, i am someone who can easily be critical of them. someone who could very easily be critical of that. is it a good deal? is it the best way to manage our federal government? is it the best way to? budget for the federal government .f course not no one should celebrate this agreement as a major breakthrough that is going to bend the curve of our debts or spur economic growth. news that finally someone like paul ryan and patty
murray could get together in a room and work something out even though it is 20% of the budget in its entirety and it is only for a short term? is it good news? of course it is good news. neither side got everything they wanted. what we got is constituents and citizens talking. that is a good step forward. you think about the extra congressional process this budget had to go through? extra i do not like the congressional process this budget had to go through. normal assumes there is some normality to it at some point. it has not gone through the normal process since i was there . it is good news that is going
through any process. before capitol hill or members of congress can consider reforming the budget process, they should consider using the one that is there. 40% in the house and almost the same in the senate have never gone through the regular budget process. they have not even seen it. they have not seen what we call regular order on capitol hill. he already to go and reform the process. it is like saying that hammer is broken. before youou try it say, i need a new toolbox? served ins nussle congress 16 years, from 2001 until 2007 and then moved on to the white house. .e is from iowa undergrad at luther college.
.ll degree in des moines he is our guest for the next 40 minutes or so. the numbers are up on the screen. david, you are the first caller. you are calling from mississippi . please go ahead with your comments for former congressman james nussle. i want to know why we can send so much money overseas and we cannot attach people right here in america who are suffering? always a problem when it comes to helping the poor, but we can send money overseas to people we do not know and for things we have no idea thanks wa about. that is a great question. it is always a balancing act trying to determine the priorities in the budget. how much goes to programs that help people who cannot help
themselves or people who are poor or between jobs and balancing the priorities of our foreign policy. trying to ensure that we are safe and that our interests around the world are protected. and that we have influence in areas that are important. the one misnomer i would say is that -- i would suggest that much not spend when compared to the overall budget on foreign-policy types of programs. you would see much more in the programs that do help or try and help the poor and people between jobs. people who are unemployed or cannot help themselves. as we were talking moments ago, people with disabilities. i am not suggesting they are perfect. in fact, i think congress is looking and the president has brought this up -- trying to look at programs that help people who are disadvantaged and who have income disparities --
income discrepancies and inequalities as well as from the republicans on capitol hill wanting to look at welfare programs. seeing if there is not a better way to make sure those dollars are directed to people who need them. that is not even close to the onunt of money that is spent foreign programs. you could argue t >> melissa harris parry moderates a panel on incarcerated women's rights advocates. it is followed by congressional gold medal ceremony. they transmitted coded messages during world war i and world war ii.
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have an economy that is stronger than it was when we started the year. more americans are finding work. they are experiencing the pride of a paycheck. we are positioned for more growth and more jobs. i firmly believe that 2014 can be a breakthrough year for americans. but, as i outlined in detail earlier this month, we all know that there is a lot more we will have to do to restore opportunity and growth for every american. that will require some action. it is a good start that earlier this week, for the first time in a year, both parties came together to pass a budget. some of the damage that created headwinds for art hot -- our economy. we need to straighten our middle class. it means that the american people will not be exposed to another reckless shutdown every few months. that is a good thing.
host: now joining us on our set , who isca sinderbrand the white house deputy editor for politico. how important is 2014 to president obama? guest: you are looking at the final year where, generally in the second term, he can expect to have any real sway. we are looking ahead to the midterm elections. it will be a big deal. democrats are hoping to hold on and maybe make up some ground. the poll numbers are not looking too great. 2014 is a pretty critical year. host: he talked quite a bit about the economy. why did he say it would be a breakout year? guest: we heard from the white house a number of times in december. economist pointed to growth and said that growth is actually exceeding their expectations. they're cautiously optimistic
that they have made sluggish growth and the economy will make steady progress. host: from your paper this morning is this article. a big gain for the republican party. that republicans are holding a 49% lead over democrats. guest: let's be clear. this is a snapshot in time. we are a year out from the elections. they are talking about this reaction that people are having to what they have seen earlier this fall. we sell the republicans feeling the brunt of public backlash over the government shutdown. now, it you're seeing lingering issues from the affordable care act. really just a snapshot in time of the next few months. they will be critical for setting the narrative. host: there was an article in the new york times this morning -- the republicans debate next
move. will they continue to push their repeal of the health law and will it do damage to president obama politically? guest: this is the question. right now, you have a lot of democrats thinking to themselves, has this rollout just been a bump in the road? when we get to the summer and the fall, is that going to be a real blip? or is that something cemented in the public's mind as a failure? it has been picking up as the deadline near and the problems are largely in the past. itthe election draws closer, will be seen as a conditional success but not a failure. host: we will put the numbers on the screen. rebecca sinderbrand is joining
us, white house deputy editor of politico. we will get to those as soon as we can. one of the issues that has been coming up is immigration. the immigration reform. is that going to be an issue in 2014? guest: everyone is watching to see what john boehner will do. ofhas hired an aide john mccain. we have seen the white house holding back a bit of their criticism. a lot of people interested in what they heard at the president's press conference. nod toheard him make a the idea that house could take bill piecemeal.n we're did not hear that option
mentioned in his press conference. we don't know whether he will be making more of a press for the senate bill to be taken up but this will be a major issue in 2014. host: does the president have the clinical clout to push immigration or any big issue? guest: we have had this discussion where if the president is pushing immigration hard, that may signal the white house is more pessimistic about his prospects. the harder the president pushes, the less likely he will get those wavering democrats and republican support needed to pass it. perhaps that signals better prospects for the bill. perhaps it signals pessimism. as he gets closer and we are looking to 2014, this would be an issue the democrats will talk
about in the midterm election. it remains to be seen. host: i want to go back to the comment that this is the last year, next year will be the last year the president has any political pull to set the agenda. why? guest: this is just historically speaking. we cannot speak in absolutes here. heading into the end of your second term, the spotlight shifts. we are seeing a bit of that. all the discussion about hillary clinton for the democratic party. to the extent the spotlight turns to hillary clinton, that is the spotlight in the democratic party off the president. as 2015 gets closer, we know the senator will make your decision
about running for president. that will get louder and louder as time goes on. again, the white house has a limited window. but the president holds center stage. host: from the political magazine, the lease productive congress in history? what is the congressional agenda? guest: there is a lot on their plate. bill,ation, the farm which has a big shot at passing, and unemployment benefits, which democrats will be eager to talk about as we look to highlight income and inequality into the midterm year. midterm years are not fantastic years for getting broad bipartisan pieces of legislation through the house or through the senate.
it will be interesting to see what happened. this debt ceiling, whether the house will pass a clean debt ceiling. for anotherger -- showdown. host: what is the biggest pressure on john boehner? guest: it is almost hard to pick. immigration. what is he going to do? will he bring the senate bill to the floor? and the debt ceiling? andook the fact that he did it was not his ideal strategy and not one he would have picked himself but he did it. would he do it again if thi ere remains something for his caucus to get out of the white house? lots of pressure on john boehner. host: what about harry reid? guest: it has been interesting
to see harry reid taking the role of enforcer, kind of holding the line, almost playing bad cop, telling the president not to yield. the last showdown in the fall. that is a role he continues to play. host: rebecca sinderbrand is our guest. stephen from florida, go ahead. caller: i have a question. [indiscernible] withs brought down explosives on 9/11. host: stephen is a 9/11 truther. dorothy, you are on the "washington journal." we are talking about all attacks. -- politics.
republicans do not care about anything except for the rich. they only care about getting elected again. they do not care about the poor. people neede said, to consider themselves like god was, like jesus was. he cared about the poor. it is not about them all the time. there are people in need. the affordable care act. many people need that insurance. it is going to do this or do that. think about the people who died and are going to the doctor. more, $12 more, $30 more, these people who don't
have anything cannot even go to a doctor. host: any comment for her? thing it is any string looking at the deadline coming up for the affordable care act. that is going to be a real moment, just like the october 1 rollout was. this is a six month marathon and not a sprint. they are dismissing the early enrollment figures which were.disappointing there is going to be a lot of focus on how many people have signed up and whether or not it comes to the original expectations. host: there is an article this post." in "the new york people will see in creases in their health care premiums. 2014going to be spending talking about health care?
guest: it is going to be a focus for the early part of the 2014. there are a lot of question marks. some people will be getting surprises. some could be good surprises. it has been said before that 2014 is going to be the war of dueling anecdotes. people will be seeking out personal stories on both sides and that will be a hot topic of conversation. host: bill from new york on the independent line. caller: hi. i am a vietnam veteran and clinical psychologist and have been following c-span for many years. i am please with the unfiltered quality you provide for listeners. i am concerned about one thing. the concerns this gentleman had
about 9/11 and building seven and dismissing it is saying he is a 9/11 truther. i think that is insulting. architects and engineers -- host: thank you, bill. name a website. we have to move on. gave you a chance. albert in delaware. caller: thank you so much. i appreciate c-span and the journalist. she seems to be -- host: what is your question? think republicans are afraid of all the people that signed up for so-called obamacare? that the democrats are going to roll these people out? democrats are going to roll these people out in the upcoming
election in 2014? thank you so much. guest: it is certainly going to be an issue in 2014. if people are happy with their insurance, they will help bring people out. just because you signed up for insurance does not make you an obama supporter. it is going to be an issue in the campaign. we are seeing negative ads on the affordable care act and the rollout of the affordable care act. some democrats themselves are not happy with the way the rollout was handled. it may be negative or it may be a wash, depending on where you stand. that question remains to be seen. host: rebecca sinderbrand, how cohesive is the president's
team? there are some new members? guest: john podesta is coming in. there are several issues in particular that he has been known for in the past and we can expect to see an active on those fronts. there are more staff changes to come. expect more announcements in 2014. we will see new pushes a new areas from the administration. we know the president will be rolling out new policies on the nsa, theand way that data is gathered. he is reviewing them right now. what his pixar for which proposals he will adopt. we will hear more from the administration. he will speak about his foreign andcy agenda on both iran
afghanistan will be big issues and the president is expected to speak about his foreign policy agenda for the remainder of his term. lots on his plate next year. scheduled to 28 is be the state of the union speech. johnny, you are on with rebecca sinderbrand of politico. hi, johnny. does --why [indiscernible] democratsr about getting positive results. when it calls for republicans, it is like they have lost objective [indiscernible] destroy this country. thank you. guest: 2014 will be a very
interesting year in terms of the midterm elections. you will see both sides battling it out. beenlicans have not advancing a positive agenda. they have been pushing back on the president's agenda. they have been doing their best to advance their ideals and the last bills do not have a prayer in the senate were signed into law by the president. they will make the case they are advancing their own agenda what is being blocked. host: what is the relationship between john boehner and harry reid? guest: it is not the best. it has been an interesting dynamic. looking at the ways in which both of them are dealing with the dynamics in their own party, particularly john boehner.
it was interesting to see coming out of the debt ceiling fight, there was the expectation that might be disappointment with members. they had almost nothing to show for it. there was unanimous support and the republican caucus for john boehner. longmains to be seen how he wants to stay in the job. host: this is from yesterday's "washington times" op-ed page. "a gift from the federal shutdown." adam brandon writes