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so the path is in violation of plain law, the ability of people in the jobsll be able to take from americans today and we have a lot of americans struggling for work. the present plan is a direct affront to every single unemployed american, two people around the world who have applied to come to the united states and have not been admitted. what do we say to them when this happens? it is particularly damaging to those in the poorest and most vulnerable communities in america. who is speaking for them? in will give them a bargain congress? will we hear there please? i have been shocked that we have not seen a willingness in congress to resist more effectively than what we are
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seeing today. let's consider more deeply what the president's executive action would do to enforcement in america. let me just say, we are not just making this up. we are not having some idea that he might do something. it has been repeatedly leaked from the white house. they have discussed it. the president has promised to act with groups like the aclu that he has been meeting with. e has told them he intends to do this. the latest article yesterday, the wall street journal, big article said, it would happen. shortly after labor day. this is not something we are making up. it is a direct threat, a direct promise from the white house. i hope they will not go forward with it.
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surely, cooler heads in the white house will push back. surely his attorney general will say, mr. president, you can't do this. his legal present -- legal counsel will say, don't do this. this is not lawful. security, they need to say this would be devastating. how can we enforce any law? please don't do this. i don't think it is absolutely certain to happen, but it seems y everyhat b indication, it is an absolute intention of the president to go forward with this or they wouldn't have half a dozen articles on it. national journal, time magazine and others. with aspoken many times great american by the name of chris train. a former marine. of immigration
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customs and enforcement offices. he has explained and publicly slated how his officers are ordered not to do their job. the have even sued secretary of homeland security for blocking them from fulfilling their oath to enforce the laws of the united states of america. can you imagine that? i have been in law enforcement a long time. i have never heard of a situation in which a group of law officers sue their , my supervisorng is causing me on a daily basis, ordering me not to do what my duty and oath require. that is a stunning development. morale has been one of the lowest in the federal
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government. they have been demeaned and projected in the duty they believe is worthwhile. one of the things he explained is that the president's reveals executive amnesty for the so-called dreamers basically halted enforcement for anyone under that new administration policy. mr. crane would report that ice officers would come into contact with individuals unlawfully present in the , theyy in prisons, jails would be called by local police enforcement. they tell the officers, routinely you are supposed to pick them up and deport them. they encounter people in jail. that is one of the jobs they have. they would be forced to release assert,ply because they i came here as a youth.
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how do you investigate it? the affect is to demoralize and make it difficult, almost impossible to enforce the law. imagine what would happen if the president expands his embassy -- amnesty and work authorization programs because of millions of unlawful immigrants of all ages. everyone ice comes in contact with will assert these protections. i am qualified under the .resident's amnesty any failed application will say, they are eligible for this amnesty. what then? investigationsen , check when they entered the country, or who they entered the
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country with and where they came from? they are not going to do that. of course not. officers are going to be totally unable to review false claims from applicants, the people they have arrested. it is going to demoralize immigration. ice officers will be ordered to stand down. no enforcement is going to occur. of end of the affect immigration enforcement in america in my opinion. you cannot maintain an effective, lawful, consistent, fair immigration enforcement policy with these kind of regulations occurring and these kind of orders from the white house. it is the chief executive officer of america who is empowered and direct it to ensure that the laws of the united states are carried out, not empowered to violate the
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laws of the united states. officers who from process immigration applications. these are people who receive applications to come to the united states in a lawful way. atse dedicated folks immigration services, these are the people who have to process all these millions of applicants if the president issued his order. let me read at length from a statement from the president of the uccscis counsel. wrote last year, this is what he said. adjudications officers are pressured to rubberstamp applications instead of conducting diligent case review and investigations." saying theirfficer
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are pressuring them to rubberstamp applications right now. the culture at uscis encourages all applications to the approved. discouraging proper investigation into red flags and discouraging the denial of any applications. uscis has been turned into an approval machine." top cis officer said in a statement last fall. they have been turned into an approval machine. no wonder the american people are unhappy. does anyone really know how serious this is? it is amazing that we would undermine the very integrity of the entire process. that is why they protested. that is why they have come
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forward. it hurts them. they feel bad to see the great law of the united states being routinely eviscerated. he went on to say this, "uscis has created an almost enter the mountable -- almost insurmountable bureaucracy that prevents adjudication officers from contacting and coordinating with ice agents who know something about these people perhaps, and officers that should have their involvement. uscis officers are pressured to approve visa applications from any individuals ice officers have determined should be placed into deportation proceedings." that is a very serious charge. that is happening. he is not making that up. it goes on, "the uscis
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officers who identify illegal aliens in accordance with law should be placed into immigration removal proceedings before a federal judge are prevented from exercising their authority and responsibility to issue notices to appear." notices to appear in court. they are being told not to do it. he goes on to say, "the cis managements is not that the agency serves the american public or the laws of big and that it states or public safety and national security, but instead that the agency serves illegal aliens. and the attorneys which represent them. while we believe in treating all people with respect, we are concerned that this agency is too greatly influenced by special interest groups to the point that it is no longer
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properly performing its mission." what a devastating critique. does anyone care? has the president done one thing to respond to these allegations? is the senate bill offered by senator reed and our democratic colleagues -- does it do one thing to fix one of these problems? zero. they have no intention of fixing these problems. they don't want to fix these problems. this is their policy. more lawlessness. areay that the laws undermined in such a way they can't be effectively enforced, it is just wrong. republicans and democrats need to stand up to this. to thee need to respond desires of the american people? isn't that right and just and
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decent, that they ask of us? yet we go along in total ignorance and ignore these kinds of statements from our own , whichment officers anybody who looked at the border and sees what is happening could believe every bit of it. indeed, it is true. it goes on to say, "the are tasked with such a vital security mission, is to influenced by special interest groups to the point that it no longer properly performs its mission." every article we see is the president meeting with some groups like a very extreme
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policy on immigration, basically an open borders policy, they opposed every policy of lawfulness. other groups, the aclu was commenting recently on what they thought the president had told them he was going to do about not enforcing the law. these are the kind of groups he is meeting with. he is not meeting with the law officers. he never sat down with them and said, tell me what it is like on the border. let's make this system work there may get he has never done that. that is very indicative. in this legislation, they would .pend $2.7 billion it does nothing to fix any of it. just give us more money. say, then to department of homeland security and customs and immigration services leadership had
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intentionally established an dreamerson process for that the president issued, that bypasses traditional in person interviews with trained uscis adjudication officers. these practices were put in place to stop improper screening and enforcement -- no, he is saying these practices were put in place to stop proper screening and enforcement and to guarantee that applications would be rubberstamped for approval, a practice that virtually guarantees widespread fraud and places public safety at a risk. this is the head of the cis officers association. he is laying out action after action that demonstrates that we
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are dealing with an administration who does not want the laws enforced. "u.s.s on to say, taxpayers are currently tasked with absorbing the cost of over $200 million worth of free waivers the stowed on applicants for naturalization in the last fiscal year. this is in addition to the strain put on our social security system that has been depleted by an onslaught of refugees receiving benefits as soon as their feet touch the soil." so there is no social security benefits, that is not correct. the asylum system through the refugee program entitles these benefits when they hit the soil. it goes on to say, "large swathes of the immigration act are not effectively enforced for
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legal immigrants and visa holders including the laws regarding public charges as well as many other provisions as the uscis lacks the resources to scrutinize legal immigrants and nonimmigrants seeking status adjustment. there is also insufficient screening and monitoring of student visas." breathtaking reports from our top officers from the front lines of law enforcement. from people who screen and review applications every day for the united states of america. just imagine what will happen to our system at the present goes forward with his executive actions. it would overwhelm a system that is already buckling under the weight of massive illegality on our southern border. we must end this lawlessness.
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we can do so. i know it can be done. but to do so, we must first stop doing more damage. prevent the massive executive amnesty from going forward. roused to this issues will not be ignored in my opinion. they will not let their representatives acquiesce to lawlessness. that is why i have said that congress must not support any border bill that comes forward that does not expressly prohibit the president's executive amnesty ideas that he has been talking about. and would block him from spending any money to execute an unlawful plan of this kind. how can we not take this position? what basis do we have to say
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that we won't take any action when we are being told on a daily basis what the president plans to do? are we ready to go to recess for august having done nothing, said nothing, offered nothing to oppose this stated intentions of the president? no legislation pending for a vote in either chamber, house or senate, which passes this test. z has offered language that wasn't allowed to come up for a vote. both house and senate packages should not be supported. congress should not a jorn -- adjourn. the american people are asking for us to help. they are pleading with us for help and we must answer their call. we must fight for the lawful and just system of immigration that
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we can be proud of. let's put this into a bigger picture. wages are down. laborforce participation is declining. the percentage of people in the working ages who are actually working has been declining steadily. it has reached a level of 1970's. since 2000, the federal government has lawfully issued nearly 30 million immigrant and foreign work visas to come to the country to work. almost 30 million visas to legally work in the united states or permanently reside in the united states. the number of americans with on net.lined fewer us-born workers had jobs in 2014 than in 2000. amazing. there are fewer people working today even though the population has increased than in 2000.
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in addition to the already huge flow of low-wage labor into the united states, we have a problem. americans need jobs. we don't have too few workers. we have too few jobs. i would contend that that is pretty clear because wages are down. if we had a shortage of workers, wages would be up. when you have a surplus of workers, wages decline. according to the wall street journal, in 2007, income for a family of four would amount to $55,000 on average. it has dropped to $50,000. oft is a huge diminishment the wealth of americans. isn't it time we did something for american workers? don't we represent the people of
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this country? immigration,eve in we respect and love and admire immigrants, we ought to have a lawful system and the number of people that come ought not to be so large that it destabilizes our labor market. the right policy for a great country to pursue? the american people have begged and pleaded for this system. believe that we ought to give it to them. one more time here, what we are seeing in the bill presented by bill that just a provides money. it doesn't deal with any of the policy problems in any real way that would end the lawlessness and end the belief by people around the world that they can
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just come to the united states and be allowed to stay. end thisot acted to belief in any effective way. it could easily be done. they don't need a law to fix that. we have looked at it. some legal changes could help, but first of all, the president needs to act. the house is putting up some money and saying it has to be used for some of the things that would be beneficial to ending this flow. even then, we have seen the president doesn't have to comply with their vision to end immigration into america. so the president has set this up and he issued his amnesty and documents, his policy, and encouraged more people to come to america. if he does this new executive
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order amnesty, he will encourage more to come to america. it will weaken the moral authority of all immigration laws. you cannot take these kind of actions. you cannot take these actions and think they are not ramifications of it. there are impacts throughout the entire world and the entire law enforcement community. dealing with hundreds of these cases, you have to have clarity, you have to have integrity, you have to have consistency and you have to mean what you say. you can't say, i want strong borders and i am for legal immigration and present a bill that will do nothing to change the status we are on. i hope that our
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people will look at and pay attention to. this bill is going to go down. it is not going to pass. it should not pass. it will be blocked. it will have note chance of passing in the house if it got out of the senate. what i want to say is, it is indicative of the lack of seriousness from the majority party when they produce such a poor piece of legislation. i would like to remind my colleagues of one more thing. the only way the administration can run out of money is if it refuses to spend the money that is currently available to it for the border disaster. there is no law, no regulation preventing the administration from spending money in the current fiscal year. even the bill they submitted to
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examined, showed it only asked for $20 million for this fiscal year. not the kind of crisis that we have to rush on and pass thell today, tonight, and country is going to shut down. they can reallocate funds. what we need is and what congress needs to do as a representative of the american people, it needs to say, we are prepared to provide some money but we need to know you are serious. president,know, mr. you are going to let your officers do their duty and not block them from doing their duty. we need to know that the president is going to issue a massive amnesty of millions of people have been given work permits in america for any job that is out there. any job. we need to know where you stand on this.
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we represent our people. we can't just throw money at this problem, which is what this legislation does. let me take a little moment to go back and discuss how we got here. we have had the current laws in affect for a number of years. about 6, 7 years. we didn't see a spike in entries of young people until the president issued an executive order legalizing people of youth up to 30 years of age who came to america. that was seen around the world as an indication for young people to come. they have, and extraordinary numbers. was 6000. this year it is going to be 90,000. what a huge surge that is. it should never have happened. to being hereuced
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in the congress and having a president come to us demanding billions of dollars to fund this program. and deal with a crisis that his policies created. it is true and has been true, the young people who come to inrica and turn themselves to the immigration officers, who then take them to help and siemens are is as officers and turned them over to them, they go out and find housing. that is why we are seeing this all over the country. up,nyone comes to pick them they are turned over to them. they don't inquire if they are legally here, those who come to pick them up. thatexpect no proof they are related to the child or young person. most of them are older teenagers. bail andreleased on they never show up. time or theas
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numbers or capacity to begin to look and see why they didn't show up in court. but if you get a traffic ticket and don't show up in court in alabama or california or texas, somebody is coming after you. this is the way the system is being collapsed in america today. it is just a tragedy. it breaks my heart. the american people have never approved of this. so this word got out and we had this urge and now the president comes forward and says, give me $4 billion. is $2.7bill here billion. without any clear commitment or proof that we have any plan or commitment from his leadership to alter the dynamics of the situation we are in.
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president, this is not acceptable. the bill before us now is not acceptable. it will not pass. it will not become law. we need to insist and the american people will continue to insist that this congress and this white house do their duty to make sure we have good, sound and ensure they are faithfully and fairly the nationalerve interest of the united states. i thank the chair and yield the floor. >> mr. president, i know that the senate is now considering whether we should vote on the motion to proceed to the urgent supplemental bill. that means under the rules of another century, we don't actually get to a bill. or even have a filibuster. designed to cool the
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passions of the time. world. however, these procedures now have been distorted that we are no longer the greatest deliberative body in the world. we're the greatest delaying body in the world. delay has become not only a tactic to come up with better ideas, delay has become an outcome into itself. we are facing a really serious problem in our country, and i would hope we would vote on the motion to proceed so we could actually get on the legislation for the urgent supplemental funding to deal with three crises facing our country, one of which is wildfires burge in the best, in which communities are being destroyed and first responders are being exhausted
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and while they're being exhausted, local and state funds are being exhausted along with the forest service of our own government. we need to stand with our neighbors in these western states because this is a calamity. the presiding officer was the mayor of a great city in new jersey, newark. he knows what happens when a hurricane hits a city and hits a state. new jersey, we're still -- you could tell me and i know you've spoken frequently about how new jersey is still trying to recover from fema -- excuse me, from sandy. well, the fire raging in the western states are their hurricane. they're their tornado. it's their sandy. and i would hope that we would pass the $615 million to help
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our own fellow citizens in the eight western states. then we have a treasured ally that is under attack by a terrorist organization that needs to defend itself using a technology called the iron dome, and they defend themselves by shooting interceptor rockets. it's not an offensive rocket, shoot to kill, it's shoot to defend. they're using up these rockets at an unprecedented rate, and the secretary of -- the secretary of defense has sent a letter to the congress asking for $225 million to be able to replenish this. then we have a crisis in central america with the violence being created by the narcotraffickers or the narco terrorists that is causing a surge of children coming to our country. i would hope that we would pass the money to address those
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needs, which i'll elaborate on in a minute. so i would hope that this isn't going to be another day when after all is said and done, more gets said than gets done. we need to respond to the needs that are being -- presented to us. mr. president, i want to talk about the children. much has been said here about the children -- much has been said about president obama's failed immigration policy, we need national guard, we need to give them police powers, all of that. well, i'm glad that many senators are now going down to the border. i went down to the border myself. i wanted to see the situation as chair of the appropriations committee, i wanted to see, number one, was there an urgent need? number two, what would it take to meet that need? and number three, how could we work together on a bipartisan
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basis to protect the children and protect our own country? well, i got an eyeful. i got an eyeful. and i just want to tell you about it. when i went down the border -- and i traveled with the secretary of homeland security, and i traveled with secretary burrell, head of h.h.s., we want to the mcclellan border patrol station and we also went to lackland air force base where children were being temporarily housed. and had the opportunity to meet with really great border patrol agents, wonderful faith-based organization caring for the children, frank young lawyers -- fantastic young lawyers from the university of texas austin campus and st. mary's law school, making sure they this legal services on a pro bono basis, making sure they had it on their own dime.
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we saw a lot and then i talked to the children. first i want to talk about the number of the children. we are acting like we are under siege rather than facing a surge. i think there is a big difference between feeling under siege than under kids with the a surge. we are talking as of this minute 60,000 children. now, that's a lot of children, but you know what? if you came to baltimore and we went to ravens stadium, ravens stadium holds 60,000 people. we're not talking 600,000. we're not talking six million. we're talking 60,000 children. maybe it will swell to 90,000. all 90,000 still could fit in the new dallas stadium. so we're talking about a number so small, so small that it
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could fit -- could fit into an american stadium. we are a people 300 million people. certainly we can deal with 60,000 children, feeling traffickers and traffickers in drugs and sexual slavery. aren't we big enough, aren't we strong enough and aren't we tough enough to be able to deal with that? i think that we are. and when you see what's going on, you would know kind of what i mean. let's talk about this. so let's talk about these 60,000 children. it's literally a children's march across guatemala, honduras and el salvador through mexico and coming to the rio grande. they're not coming across all 1,900 miles of the border. they're coming to a specific
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area and they cross the river on rafts, they swim, they do what they can. now, when you come to mcquellen and how this began -- it goes like this. the children either come on their own or they come because the smuggler or a coyote brings them. it means that some mother, some father, some aunt right now in the united states of america making the minimum wage, making the minimum wage, is going to scrape together the three to five grand that the smuggler says we can deliver, kind of like a fed ex or a u.p.s. for human beings, we'll deliver them to the rio grande border. so they scrape together the money and they are willing, the violence is so bad that they are willing to trust a crook to be able to bring the children. they come through and they leave
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and they trek, they trek through a jungle, they trek through filth and dirt and danger. they stop at what they call safe houses. that's an oxymoron. there is nothing safe about a safe house where you have children with also all kinds of other people on that road where the children are taken advantage of. and i won't describe it. so from this safe house they finally make it to the border. some ride a train called the beast. this is acorino plane. -- cargo plane. it's not a lovely train that maybe goes up and down our coast from boston to savannah. this is a train called the beast. the children ride the top of these trains, holding each other, clutching each other. i talked to a little girl about 9 years old who told me she rode for two days and had to stay awake for 48 hours because she
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was afraid of falling off where she could lose an arm, a leg, or death itself. now, would why would children risk this, why would parents risk this? it's because of the danger, the danger, danger in central america. so we don't -- we're talking about arming the border more? we need to go after arming the fight against the narcotraffickers in central america and also dealing with our insatiable, insatiable appetite for drugs that fuels this. so that's what's driving this. when they say send the children back, what are they going to send them back to? what are they going to send them back to? the ones recruiting the boys to engage in criminal activity, the girls to be recruited into human trafficking? it's not like we're going to send them back on a plane and there's going to be juan diaz with a yellow rose saying
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welcome back, the children of honduras or el salvador. they're going to go right back into the very danger that they ran from. when i went to the mcquellen border patrol station, this is what we call a detention facility. now,, it was designed to detain adults -- underline that word -- and it was designed to hold up to 300 people. usually adult illegal immigrants trying to cross the rio grande. these really look like cells, c-e-l-l-s like cells. these are cement, cinderblock facilities that were designed to hold 10 or 12 adults and they hold as much as 20 or 30 children sleeping on the floor, the border patrol doing the very best that they can, the border patrol taking care of children because we can't move them to
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humanitarian facilities like the law requires. you talk to children who are taking turns sleeping -- sitting on a cement block to even be able to rest. hundreds there, 20 and 30 in a room, sleeping on floors, using empty water bottles for pillows. these kind of blankets that look like aluminum foil. these are the lucky ones. they come in from the overfill outdoor area, where often the boys are in a covered area where they sleep outside and the girls, quote, can be inside but in these holding cells. very limited showers. very limited hygiene. the border patrol doing everything they could. it's not something they're used to seeing in the united states.
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i know there's another codel going. go, go, go, go and go see this. i talked to a 12-year-old girl. she was in charge of bringing her 6-year-old sister. their parents sent them to escape the gang violence. the mother told the older girl watch out for your younger sister, don't let her out of your sight until you get to your america and try to get to your aunt. i talked to a 15-year-old girl from honduras. both of her parents had been killed by gang violence. she worked in a restaurant to save enough money to pay the coyote. it took her two months to get to the united states. escaping violence along the route to get here. you're going to send her back? you're going to send the 6-year-old back? well, i then had the opportunity -- so you just see what these conditions are. and you talk to the border patrol agents, they want to be law enforcement guys. and gee, are they terrific. they are really terrific.
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and they know that the surge and the border is being caused by the criminal activity there. they talked openly about we know who the seven -- there are seven organized crime sinned cats that are sparking a lot of this. they know about the false recruitment of young people, promising a new day and a new way to get to the united states of america. so they know about that, and they want to be able to do law enforcement, but in order for them to be able to do what they do, we have to have facilities for the children to be housed, clothed and fed while their legal status is being determined under the law. now, i went up to lackland air force base. now, the children are being cared for in unused dormitories that once housed our air force. we have new facilities pour our enlisted personnel. but do you know that we pay for
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that, that the department of health and human services has to pay the department of defense to house those children and because it's on a military base, with all the rules and regs associated with that, it is the most expensive housing we can have, but it is the best housing that we have, and right now because of this rejectionist fear that is being promulgated through our country like somehow or other these children pose a danger to us, it is the best we can do. and i will tell you it's a very nice facility. and i saw it being operated by a faith-based organization, the baptist conference. hats off to them. i speak now as a social worker, a professionally trained social worker. it was one of the most outstanding child welfare service organizations i'd seen from the nurses to the social workers to those who were trying to interview the children.
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they were doing a fabulous job. but they are under a contract, so though they are a voluntary faith-based organizations, they're being compensate evidence for their time and services because that's what we should be able to do. we want to be able to use groups like that all over america. what was so heart warming to lee, mr. president, -- to me, mr. president, was that catholic charities in oklahoma had come to texas to see what the baptists were doing because they were getting ready to help take the kid. that's kind of like the america way. that was kind of the american way to see catholic charities learning from the baptists, all concentrating on the welfare of children, knowing that these are all children in god's eyes with human beings, with dignity and then i talked to the legal services people. this goes to those lawyers, the
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law professors, the law students, university of texas austin, st. mary's college, their services that they were providing was on their own time and their own dime. they were using up their money, their summer time, there was no compensation even for expenses so that they could begin the interview process to determine if any of these children had the right -- had the opportunity to maybe voluntarily return home, because it was clear the coyotes had misled many, that's true, and so on. well, they were doing that. well, we can't keep doing this on this emergency patchwork basis. we need the urgent supplemental, number one, to help the homeland security law enforcement be them, help health and humans services they
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need to crack this backlog and be able to place these children. yes, their legal status, do they -- do they have the right for refugee status, to be determined, and even when have you volunteer legal services like the outstanding work i saw in texas, outstanding -- i know you're a lawyer. you would have been proud of them. and the way they were just responding to these children. bilingual, remember the services -- but you need help, you need paralegals, you need this. so -- and i want to break the backlog of judges, the backlog of cases so we have enough immigration judges to do this. so i tell you this story because there is so much myth, so much misinformation, so much distortion out there that i am afraid that we will end this day and not vote to proceed to the urgent supplemental, debate it
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and discuss it and then vote on it, that it will just languish. and as a social worker, i just want to say what i've seen these children go through is unimaginable. they have come here to escape violence and death. they deserve to be treated with compassion and integrity, and they deserve us to do our job. and anyone who thinks we should just deport these children without giving them every right afforded them under our law should go down to look into their eyes and listen to their stories. the time is to act now, but let's put together a comprehensive program and i believe we can really meet this surge, deal with the real root cause and be able to function in a way that we're all proud of. mr. pres >> that was debate from earlier today on the senate floor.
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the senate just a few moments ago failed to advance that bill. meanwhile, the house plans to deal with the same issue today on what was scheduled to be there last legislative day before the august recess. house leaders pulled from the floor a $169 billion spending bill. they did not have the votes needed to pass the measure. a short time later, the rules committee approved a so-called same day rule allowing consideration of up funding bill for september 5. another meeting and the house will return for legislative business at 10:00 a.m. on friday. they began midday today.
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a lasted nearly an hour and half. speaker, i yield myself six months. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for six minutes. mr. rogers: i rise today to present h.r. 5230, which provides immediate short-term funding to address the southwest border crisis. in total this bill provides $659 million to meet urgent border security and humanitarian needs for this fiscal year ending on september 30. thousands of illegal immigrants, including unaccompanied children, have flooded our borders and overwhelmed our current facilities and personnel this includes a staggering number of children arriving with no family, who are being smuggled across our borders by criminal organizations. subject to abuse and violence.
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we need to put safeguards in place to prevent them from taking this dangerous squour nee , as well as provide the resources needed to take care of them and process them appropriately. the president must take the lead on this. by mitigating the crisis. turning back the tide of illegal immigrants, and fully enforcing our laws. this problem has, without a doubt, been exacerbated by the administration's policies on immigration and it's up to the administration to find a way to fix that problem. in the meantime, however, madam speaker, it's plain that something must be done to ensure that our law enforcement personnel and federal agencies have the resources needed to deal with this dire situation in
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the short term. the $659 million in funding in this bill focuses on three areas. one, border security. two, humanitarian assistance. nd prevention. to meet the most pressing needs. out of the toal $659 million, $262 million is provided to increase security and enforce our laws. boosting personnel and increase degree e-- detention space to the largest capacity in our history. part of this funding will help accelerate judicial proceedings by increasing the number of temporary judges and outfitting all immigration courtrooms in the nation with teleconferencing equipment that would allow them to be able to join in the
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process of adjudicating those cases on the border. there are some 332 of those courtrooms around the country. and we've doubled existing funding for the national guard to bolster their presence along our border as they assist customs and border protection with surveillance, investigations, and humanitarian efforts. the bill also provides $197 million to take care of these unaccompanied children. ensuring they have proper housing, meals, and temporary care while they are in u.s. custody. third, madam speaker, to stave off the continued influx of illegal immigration, the bill redirects existing state department funding to ensure that countries like guatemala, honduras and el salvador must
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quickly accept and repatriate these returning from the u.s. this bill draws a hard line on spending, scrubbing the president's request to the couse -- focus on the most immediate needs. it does not include funding for longer term needs or unnecessary programs like cash subsidies for coffee farmers. any additional funding for this crisis can and should be addressed under the regular appropriations process for fiscal year 2015. in addition to make sure that this bill doesn't add a penny to , we make sure there's offset using prior year funds. lastly the bill includes several policy provisions recommended by the speaker's working group on .he border crisis
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representative kay granger of texas will speak soon. this includes changes in a 2008 law to make sure all unaccompanied minors arriving in this clint are treated the same, mexicans and canadians and all will be treated equally. -- it gthens the law prohibits secretaries of interior and agriculture from restricting customs and border protection activities on federal and on the border.
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address of the most immediate needs on the border. it also puts in place much-needed policy changes that should stop the flow of unaccompanied children who are being put at risk during their long dangerous journey through mexico. it's our congressional duty to quickly pass this bill in short order and therefore i ask all members to support it. i reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from kentucky reserves. the gentlewoman from new york is recognized. >> madam speaker, i rise today to oppose this bill that sadly falls short in too many ways. mrs. lowey: the key federal agencies tasked with responding to the humanitarian crisis on our borders are dangerously close to running out of money. these unanticipated costs are
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affecting the core functions at the department of homeland security and health and human services. and although the bill includes funding to hire additional immigration judicial teams and help set up new repatriation centers in central america, the amounts provided are insufficient. the justice department and the state department will not be able to handle their duties without significantly more resources. all four departments need more funding than this bill provides, and few are partisan immigration policy riders than this bill now contains. our majority unwisely included legislative language to make sweeping changes to current law related to due process and immigration proceedings. controversial legislation hastily added to an emergency supplemental is not the way to
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address a complicated problem. on july 8, the president requested $3.7 billion in emergency funding. the bill provides less than $700 million. the president requested funding through fiscal year 2015. this bill barely covers the remaining weeks in f.y. 2014, setting this house up to do this all over again in september. the president's request also sought emergency funding to combat a dangerous wildfire season. as of monday, the forest service reported 26 large uncontained wildfires burning in eight states. as a member from new york, our region devastated by hurricane sandy, i'm acutely aware how important it is for the federal
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government to provide a robust response. with the house adjourning today , federal agencies will be left to fight august fires without ore funds. this bill fails to procure more iron dome interceptors for israel as requested. hamas has used the ongoing crisis in israel and gaza as an accuse to launch thousands of rockets at israeli cities and towns. the iron dome missile defense system has proven highly effective at neutralizing the rockets. in addition to not funding important priorities, the majority offsets the funding that is provided to cuts to other programs. we should provide emergency funds in a crisis situation. lastly, i strongly object to the majority's significant
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policy changes to existing law without any hearings or markups. 3/4, 3/4 of this appropriations bill is straight authorizing legislation. clearly many factors led these desperate parents to hand off their children to complete strangers with the hope to make their way to safety here. we ought to consider the complicated policy questions and provide a carefully considered solution. yet, these policy changes reveal a knee jerk response, coupled with another bill to deport children who are already in the u.s. in addition to emergency appropriations, we should consider bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform passed by the senate over one year ago.
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which could have helped to prevent the current humanitarian crisis along our southwest border by increasing border security personnel and nearly doubling the number of immigration judges. the two measures we will consider today are deeply disappointing. mr. speaker, madam speaker, we should provide sufficient funding to cash-strapped agencies and without the baggage of controversial immigration policy riders. i regret we will not do that with this bill and i regret even more the consequences of our failure. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from new york reserves her time. the gentleman from kentucky is recognized. mr. rogers: madam speaker, i yield five minutes to the gentlelady from texas, kay granger, who is the chairman of
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the foreign operations subcommittee on appropriations, but more importantly here, accepted the responsibility of the speaker to put together a task force to investigate the problem on the border and to recommend collusions and she has, with great success. so let me recognize, or yield five minutes to the gentlelady from texas, kay granger. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from texas is recognized for five minutes. mr. ranger: thank you, chairman. for yielding. madam speaker, as we speak, unaccompanied minors continue to be sent from central america through drug cartel smuggling networks across mexico and through our southern border. families are being lied to and manipulated by the coyotes. the $6,000 their families spend to send their children to the
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united states go into the bank account of the most powerful drug cartels in the world. since october, over 58,000 unaccompanied children have made the dangerous journey to the united states and many more will continue to come unless we send a clear message that they will not be allowed to stay in the united states. i have seen firsthand the crisis that's unfolded on the southern border in places like the rio grande valley in south texas. i've seen the women and children sleeping on the floor of a bus station in laredo. i've seen motherless infants being cared for by my straminger who is around and i've seen the children who are alone in detention facilities in mcallen, texas, and i've seen the 1rks200 children being sheltered at lackland air force base in san antonio. most disturbing of all, i've heard the stories about the most god-awful journey anyone should ever have to experience. we're here today because we have a responsibility to stop this
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crisis. the president has failed to lead, so i firmly believe this chamber must act. doing nothing is not an option. since june when the speaker asked me to lead a working group to provide policy recommendations on what we can do to address the crisis, i've been to the texas-mexico border twice and led a co-dell to guatemala and honduras to see where the children are coming from and why. i'll be returning to the border tomorrow for a third time the members of the working group dove head first into this issue to understand this crisis and provide recommendations for short-term, immediate response. the policies we reck mened are not an attempt for immigration reform, they are serious solutions to address this crisis. i want to take a moment to recognize the -- recognize the hard work of the members of the working group who made policy recommendations to the conference and the expertise they brought to the table. i want to thank the chairman of
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the judiciary committee bob goodlatte, chairman of the homeland security committee, mike mccall, chairman of the homeland security committee, john carter, chairman of the western hemisphere foreign affairs subcommittee, matt salmon, congressman pearce from the financial services committee and congressman mario diaz-balart from the appropriations committee. one of our conclusions is that congress should not provide more resources to the administration without changing the policies that have led us to the situation we're in today. administration officials and officials in the central american countries have always said we have to make changes to the trafficking victims protection re-authorization act of 2008. a month ago, it appeared there was a bipartisan consensus forming on this issue. white house press secretary josh ernest said from the white house podium just three weeks ago when discussing changes to the 2008
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law, that is, quote, a priority of this administration and if you listen to the public comments of democrats and republicans, it sounds like it's a bipartisan priority. i agree. and it's disappointing that the white house has backed down from their original statement on how we can immediately address this issue. we're not asking for repeal of this law. we are saying we need to tweak the 2008 law so that all eunaccompanied minors are treated the same as mexican and canadian children for removal purposes. the policy changes included in this bill ensure that children receive a prompt hearing within seven days after they're detained and require that a judge rules no later than 72 hours after a hearing. accelerating the hearing times requires more judges. i thank the chairman for including the necessary funding to hire 40 temporary judges until this crisis is under control.
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for prepay -- for repatriation we're prioritizing last in, first out. the last child to go into custody will be the first ones we send home. after families have spent between $6,000 and $9,000 to send their children here, this will send a strong message to the families and the countries -- in the countries of origin that their children will not be permitted to stay. this is a message of deterrence. i also note that chairman rogers has prioritized funding for central american countries to safely and humanely return these children. working with these countries, as we return their children, as they have asked us to do. with a surge of children, there's been an increased pressure on customs and border protection officials this supplemental deploys the national guard to assist high traffic states and will free up the border patrol to focus on their mission. mr. rogers: i yield the
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gentlelady one minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady is recognized for one minute. ms. granger: we include a provision to allow border patrol unfettered access to federal lands. right now through a memorandum of understanding, border patrol officials are only allowed to pursue those into federal lands, they can't do regular patrols. and finally, the supplemental requires a sense of congress that children should not be detained at military bases. while this will not change the law, this provision addresses a serious and growing concern from members of congress, not least of the concerns is that children should not be stored on military bases. the congressional budget office has given the assessment of policy changes in this bill. they said that because the legislation allows for the children to self-deport, it will lead to immediate savings. this is a smart targeted bill that addresses the crisis immediately. i urge my colleagues to vote yes on the supplemental and
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show the american people that we're going to end this crisis. i thank you, mr. chairman, and i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman yields back. the gentleman from kentucky reserves. the gentlewoman from new york is recognized. mrs. lowey: madam speaker, i'm pleased to yield two minutes to the gentlelady from connecticut, the distinguished ranking member of the labor, health, human services subcommittee on appropriations. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from connecticut is recognized for two minutes. ms. delauro: madam speaker, i must rise in opposition against this irresponsible and insufficient border supplemental. for months democrats have urged this majority to pass comprehensive immigration reform. the bill that was passed in the bipartisan basis in the united states senate, reforms that reflects our values and the country that we want to be, one with strong enforcement at the border, deportation of dangerous criminals and a path to citizenship that protects workers, helps families reunite
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and clears backlogs. but this republican majority has done nothing. they have refused to act, and my colleague from texas is right. doing nothing is not an option. and now we face a humanitarian crisis on our border that demands an immediate response. the majority's answer is just send children who enter our ountry alone, send them home regardless of the violence and the imminent danger that they face. this bill only includes $197 million for providing shelter and care for these refugee and while these kids are here, we have a moral and, yes, we have a legal responsibility to provide for their housing, care and processing in the most cost-effective way possible. this insufficient amount will mean that h.h.s. will have to make up the difference through
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high-priced short-term contracts. that will cost us more in the long run and it could result in cuts to other priorities like education, health, medical research and job training. if congress tries to make up these shortfalls elsewhere, this is not responsible leadership. our policy, signed into law by president george w. bush, provides for appropriate screening of those who may be victims of trafficking and that rightly includes unaccompanied children. this supplemental appropriation would change this policy and almost certainly result in children being returned to the violence that they are desperately trying to escape. america can do and should do better. we should help protect those kids who are in serious danger and push the leaders of these nations to address the root causes of why so many of their citizens are fleeing. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman's time has expired. ms. delauro: and we should pass comprehensive immigration reform. it is time for leadership from this republican majority.
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the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman's time has expired. the gentleman from kentucky is recognized. mr. rogers: madam speaker, i yield three minutes to the chairman of the appropriations subcommittee on homeland security, the gentleman from texas, mr. carter. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas is recognized for three minutes. mr. carter: thank you, mr. chairman. madam speaker, it is a proven fact that lawlessness breeds lawlessness, and sadly i believe this assertion sums up an issue that is confronting us today. thanks to the large part to the president's political decision to not enforce our immigration laws, a chaotic situationes that erupted into a national security crisis and a law enforcement nightmare along the border. we all know the facts. an estimated 90,000 unaccompanied alien children are estimated to cross into south texas rio grande valley
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by the end of this fiscal year. another 145,000 children are estimated to flood the border in fiscal year 2015, and these figures do not include tens of thousands of families that will also surge across our border over the same period of time. as the result of this influx, our brave border patrol agents, c.b.p. officers and i.c.e. agents are spending countless hours caring for children rather than focusing on their primary enforcement missions. this will be tragic if it weren't so preventable. mr. speaker, we do not have -- madam speaker, we do not have an open border policy in this country. as we tragically learned in 9/11, border security and the integrity of our immigration system, that truly matters to our nation's security and the rule of law. so today we offer a strong but
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initial step to provide both the right tools and the right authorities to address and deter this seemingly unending influence of illegal -- influx of illegal aliens. included in this package is $405 million completely offset from recovered funds for the department of homeland security , funds that will enable c.b.p. and i.c.e. to enforce our laws and apprehend, detain and deport illegal aliens. perhaps more importantly, mr. speaker, this -- madam speaker, this bill fully funds the administration's realization that detention is in fact a necessary deterrent to illegal immigration. the president requested funds to fully support the long mandated annual bill capacity -- bed capacity, a complete reversal from his budget request in which he proposed instead to reduce detention
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beds by nearly 10%. the president has also retracted his policy on the detention of families who illegally cross the border. this bill provides funding through the end of fiscal year to support 34,800 detention beds and an additional 6,320 family detention beds, a total of over 41,100 detention beds to enable the necessary consequence management for breaking the law. and lastly, mr. speaker, this bill includes policy changes to bring reform and parity to the adjudication and repryation of -- repatriation of these children. madam speaker, we must act and we must act now. lawlessness breeds lawlessness and we must act to stop it and secure our borders. i urge my colleagues to support this strong bill and i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentlewoman from new york is recognized.
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mrs. lowey: madam speaker, i am pleased to yield four minutes to the gentleman from north carolina, mr. price, the ranking member of the homeland security subcommittee of appropriations. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from north carolina is recognized for four minutes. mr. price: madam speaker, i rise in strong opposition to this misconceived and underresourced legislation. for a while it looked like we might do better than this. as the ranking member of the homeland security appropriations subcommittee i was pleased to take part in a delegation to guatemala and honduras, ably led by chairman kay granger. but as successive versions of the republican bill have surfaced over the past two weeks, an apparent request for votes only among republicans, they reflected less and less of what we learned on that trip. the bill under consideration provides less than $1 billion for the departments of homeland security, health and human services, justice and state,
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far below the president's request, what is being considered by the senate or what is required to deal with the crisis on our borders and beyond. the bill only provides funding for anticipated needs for the remainder of this fiscal year, a mere two months. now, i would object to that less if the majority had any plans for actually completing our appropriations bills before the end of september, but we all know that they do not. instead, for the first time since the creation of the department of homeland security, our homeland security appropriations bill is not even going to the house floor. the approach taken in this legislation shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the issue before us. this isn't a border security crisis. this is a humanitarian crisis. we don't need to deploy the national guard or surge our border capacity because we're not failing to catch individuals as they cross. in fact, these young people are turning themselves in.
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now, we do have some agreement on the need to expedite consideration of the claims of these matters for asylum or other forms of relief. but a $12.9 million, the bill falls short of even the administration's modest request for more immigration judges. instead of focusing on this area of agreement, the majority relies on a questionable and controversial rewriting of the wilber force law. enacted in 2008 to deal with child trafficking. my own view is that the proposal incorporated in the bill both fails to address deficiencies in our present screening of mexican youths for signs of torture or fear of persecution and risk transferring these deficiencies to the treatment of central american children. in any event, it's not wise to complicate or delay consideration of this emergency supplemental request with an authorization bill that surely requires more deliberation.
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madam speaker, there have been some recent signs of progress down at the border. over the past few weeks, average daily apprehensions of unaccompanied children have dropped from 400 to well under 200. that doesn't mean the crisis is over. we could easyly see a spike in app -- easily see a spike in apprehensions in the coming weeks. we need reform that reflects our values. faith leaders of all traditions across the country are calling on congress to provide the social and health services these children desperately need. perhaps the greatest failing of this legislation is it fails to move us toward any viable long-term strategy to address the causes of the current crisis. beyond any funding we appropriate to help manage the flow of unaccompanied children or families over the next several months, we are setting ourselves up for similar crises in the future if we aren't lling to ininvest in a long-term strategy in guatemala, honduras and el
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salvador. to stabilize their economies, modernize their institutions, reduce violence due to cartels and street gangs. madam speaker, i fear that the bill before us fails to address either short-term or long-term needs, and much of what it does contain is irrelevant to the current crisis. i urge a no vote and i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from kentucky is recognized. mr. rogers: madam speaker, i yield two minutes to the gentleman from texas who chairs the homeland security committee of the house, mr. mccaul of texas. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas is recognized for two minutes. mr. mccaul: i thank the tchimplee appropriations committee for his hard work and chairman kay granger for heading up this task force i was happy to be part of.
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as a former federal prosecutor who has dealt with border security for many years, i have never seen a crisis quite like this one this crisis demands action and leadership. it demands a solution to the problem. daca the president enacted in 2012, we've seen 60,000 unaccompanied children cross the border in the rio grande valley sector of texas alone, 250 per day. we went down there to see these children. these children are the victims caught between the administration's policies and the coyotes and the traffickers who exploit them and make money, between $5,000 to $10,000 apiece. madam speaker, this bill fixes that crisis. first and foremost it changes the 2008 trafficking law as a message of deterrence. this crisis will not stop until we start sending them back. and all this does is treat central americans the same way
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we treat mexicans. it will provide for swift removal in a humane way back to their countries of origin. it's unfortunate that the administration, while initially supportive, has now flip-flopped on that issue. it also provides for the detention, removal, and repatriation of these children. for me, in my home state of texas, importantly, it calls for the deployment of the national guard to the southwest border to secure our border. my governor, governor perry, has already activated the national guard. but it is a -- but it is the federal government's responsibility under the constitution to pick up that price tag and that's precisely what this bill does. finally, madam speaker, i think importantly, it directs the southern command, our military, to help secure the border between guatemala and mexico which i believe, and i know the chairman of the appropriations believes -- believes as well, is
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key to stopping the flow out of central america. madam speaker, the time to act is now. with that, i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentlewoman from new york is recognized. mrs. lowey: i'm pleased to yield two minutes to the gentlelady from california, ms. roybal-allard, a member of both the labor, health and human services and the homeland security committee. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman is recognized for two minutes. ms. roybal-allard: two weeks ago, i visited the border and saw small children held in tiny cells, forced to sleep on cold floors and bemples. the treatment of these vulnerable kids, many of whom fled their homes to escape extreme violence, shocked me as a mother and a person. unfortunately this bill contains only 11% of the president's request for the department of health and human services this palt ray allowance will only make conditions worse for these vulnerable children by limiting
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the bed space capacity and exacerbating delays in transferring children away the overcrowded border patrol stations into the more suitable conditions of h.r. -- of h.h.s. unfortunately, insufficient funding isn't the only flaw in this bill. by treating all children the same, the majority means taking away protection and treating central american children like mexican and canadian children who have limited protections under current law. this legislation sadly undercuts the current critical humanitarian and due process protections for these desperate children seeking safe haven from the horrors of violence in their country. without due process, many of these children who would qualify for protection under our laws will be returned straight into the arms of their traffickers or their impoverished, violent, neighborhoods. that's why national anti-trafficking organizations like the alliance to end slavery
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and trafficking strongly oppose this bill. mr. speaker, the republican supplemental is an irresponsible and inadequate bill that does little to protect our border or address the humanitarian crisis facing our nation. the bill is a senseless and deeply flawed political ploy that my republican colleagues know will be rejected by the senate. instead of playing political games, let us act in the best interests of our country and these kids by passing a bill that upholds our american values, honor ours heritage as a nation of immigrants, protect ours borders, and fully addresses the causes and consequences of the humanitarian crisis on our border. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman's time has expired. the gentleman from kentucky is recognized. mr. rogers: i yield two minutes to the gentleman from pennsylvania, a member of our committee, mr. dent. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from pennsylvania is recognized for two minutes. mr. dent: thank you, madam speaker. i rise in very strong support of
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this border security legislation presented to us today for a number of reasons. it does provide for humanitarian assistance. this does deal with -- this legislation does deal with this issue in a compassionate, thoughtful way to deal with unaccompanied children. it secures the border, provides funding for the national guard and does many other things in terms of policy changes that will treat these children just as we would treat unaccompanied children who cross the border from canada or mexico. s the right policy for a whole host of reasons. congressman k, gerlach, meehan and i visited a resettlement program in pennsylvania. those children are treated compassionately. but let me tell you what will happen if we do nothing here today. the children who are coming into children willhese in fact keep coming into our communities and they will be treated humanely and then
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they'll be resettled and reunited with parents or family members who already -- were already in the united states and in most cases here unlawfully. that's what doing nothing means. the children will keep coming, they will be resettled throughout the country and they will basically reside somewhere within the interior of this country. that's what doing nothing means. it would be reckless and irresponsible for the house to walk out of here today without addressing this border and humanitarian crisis this bill is the right thing to do. it secures the border, provides humanitarian assistance and makes the necessary policy changes to stop this flow of children. s that tragedy that these children are leaving their countries in this way. i can't imagine the desperation these families must feel, that they must feel that they would let their children travel with somebody unaccompanied, drug dealers, cartels, smugglers, coyotes. we need to make sure this stops. i met with a 5-year-old girl who told me her horrible story, and
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i just -- i shudder to think of the children who didn't make it. that's why we need to act today. it's the right thing to do, compassionate thing to do, and it is in keeping with our american tradition. thank you and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time is expire the gentlewoman from new york is recognized. mrs. lowey: i'm pleased to yield two minutes to the gentleman from maryland, the minority whip of the house. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for 2002 minutes. mr. hoyer: i thank the gentlelady for yielding. i was going to ask my friend from pennsylvania whether he talked to the senate and whether it has any chance of moving this week and the answer is, i know it does -- is that no, it does not. it would be tragic not to act. it's tragic that we're acting in a partisan fashion that almost ensures inaction on this, the last day we're going to be here. we should be acting in a bipartisan fashion, as i've urged the majority leader to do.
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what is a bipartisan fashion? a, considering the emergency need today. and funding the resources necessary to respond to that. b, taking under consideration the substantive lebling slative changes that can be affected that will help this issue, will send the mess annals that the gentleman wants to send. he's my dear friend and a good member of this body. but i will tell you this bill as had no hearings, no committee consideration, yes, there was a partisan task force, but this is had no -- this has had no consideration in this process. the majority leader last week, last week, told me that there would be no bill that did not get 72 hours' notice. the gentleman knows off bill on the floor which is contingent on the passage of this which has had a few hour's notice at best. last night, i think, at 10:00 the rules committee met.
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i will tell my friend that, had we acted in a bipartisan fashion, at whatever level of funding we could agree, pass a bill to pete the immediate crisis, b, have hearings. on the ramifications of the law that passed with only two votes in opposition. er 405 members voted for the 2008 legislation. we are changing that without a hearing. either in subcommittee, committee, or full committee. that's not the way we ought to be working. that's not good for our country. it's not good for this institution. it's not fair. so i would urge my colleagues to defeat this legislation. is that my two minutes? may i get one additional minute? the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one additional minute. mr. hoyer: i believe once again we find the republican party divided and because they're divided they're trying to cobble together some of their hardest
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line members so that they can get them to vote for this supplemental. they put on a bill which has had no notice to the american people or to members of congress. it's ironic that people are supporting this who demanded that we read the bills. there was no bill to read. until this morning. how sad for the american people. we have a humanitarian crisis that must be addressed without delay and the way to address it without delay is to give the resources necessary and then pursue the legislative process, not together, it will slow it down and i predict will not pass the senate. i thank the gentleman and ladies on this -- i think the gentlemen and ladies on this side of the aisle know the senate won't pass the bill. if you really think we ought to act now, do so in a bipartisan fashion and then let us debate the legislation before us. mr. mccaul just said,s that real crisis. just said, minutes ago, mr. mccaul, the chame of the committee, this is a real crisis
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which demands action. the recommendation that's been made to us will undermine action by this body in the face of crisis. we should not pass this legislation. we ought to pass a very simple resource to the crisis now and legislation later. i urge my colleagues to vote no the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from kentucky is recognized. mr. rogers: i don't know where the gentleman gets his information but this bill was filed tuesday. you've had since tuesday morning to study this bill and that's the appropriate, under our rule, that's the appropriate time. mr. hoyer: will the gentleman yields? the daca legislation is dependent on this legislation. that was not filed 72 hours ago. mr. rogers: that the not this bill. reclaiming my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from kentucky has the floor. mr. rogers: this bill has been available to you since tuesday.
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may i inquire the time we have remaining, madam speaker? the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from kentucky has 7 1/2 minutes. the gentlewoman from new york has 14 minutes. mr. ronellers: i reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman -- mr. rogers: i reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. the gentlewoman from new york is recognized. mrs. lowey: madam speaker, i am pleased to yield two minutes to the distinguished gentleman from pennsylvania, mr. fattah, the ranking member of the commerce, justice, and science subcommittee. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognize for two minutes. mr. fattah: i thank the gentlelady. we are here because the president of the united states has requested a -- an emergency supplemental appropriation of about $3.7 billion. the senate has acted in the range of about $2.7 billion.
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the house now comes with 1/6 of the request to deal with this crisis. it ignores the wildfires in the west. the challenges that relate to other parts of the bill. that were presented by the administration. and it says we're acting responsibly. i rise in opposition to the bill. i understand what the majority is offering. i think it's been stated pretty clearly, i believe if we have children who are presented to us without adults, who have been the victims of trafficking, which is what the majority has said, they've been trafficked by artels and paid criminal enterprises to bring them to our border, the majority says some of them have been sexually abused and mistreated in other ways.
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i don't believe that our response should be to close the door. so as we think about our responsibility as the united states of america, a nation that had 12 million people without documents when the president was sworn into office, 50,000 children, just like the 5-year-old girl my colleague said he met and talked to, the idea that what our moral responsibility is is to say to her, you go back to where you came from, i don't believe that that's what we should be doing. so i reject this, not because of the numbers or the other things. i think this is morally deficient that our great country would say, as we demand other countries around the world, that they take in refugees who are facing dangerous circumstances, that what our answer is, is no, not here. not in our backyard. thank you.
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the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from kentucky is recognized. mr. rogers: madam speaker, i yield two minutes to the chairman of the house judiciary committee, mr. good lat of virginia. . the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from virginia is recognized for two minutes. mr. goodlatte: madam speaker, i thank the gentleman from kentucky for his leadership on this issue. i urge my colleagues to support h.r. 5230. there is a crisis at our border. it is a crisis, a disaster of the president's own making. 's lax a administration immigration foreign policies says they can stay and now they are finding ways to bring their children who are still in central america and beyond to the united states unlawfully. although president obama has many tools at his disposal to stop this surge at the border, he refuses to use them and instead proposes to make the situation worse by taking more
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unilateral actions to stop the enforcement of our immigration laws. it is ultimately up to president obama to end this crisis by reversing his policies that created it. however, since he refuses to do so, we have to act to the extent we can to provide narrow and targeted funding to meet the immediate needs of our law enforcement agencies at the southern border. we have to enable them to do their job, to secure our border and enforce our immigration laws. and we should act to provide narrow tweaks to the 2008 law regarding the removal of unaccompanied alien minors. because of the president's inaction, we are taking the responsible step today of passing these narrow fixes that will help the american people avoid billions of dollars in additional costs due to the president not trying to solve this problem but asking for more money to continue to resettle thousands and thousands, tens of thousands of people into the interior of our
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country. while the bill is not perfect, it does not give -- it does give law enforcement many tools they have requested. for example, while i was in the rio grande valley earlier this month, border patrol agents cited the administration created restrictions that bar them access to federal lands as a significant stumbling block to securing the border. one of the most important provisions of this bill gives border patrol agents access to federal lands so they can stop drug traffickers, human smugglers and unlawful immigrants from exploiting these gaps along the border. since the president isn't taking serious action to address the crisis at the border, the house is doing so today, and i urge my colleagues to support this bill. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentlewoman from new york is recognized. mrs. lowey: madam speaker, i am pleased to yield two minutes to the distinguished gentleman from california, the chair of the house democratic caucus, mr. becerra.
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the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california is recognized for two minutes. thank the i ranking member for yielding. i agree with those who've said that doing nothing is not an option. but making matters worse should not be an option either. stripping children of the chance to establish their credible fear of death or endangerment is a crude and cold way of dispensing justice in america. that is not an american way. this bill is a patch, not a solution. it lasts two months. so we'll be right back here trying to solve this challenge again in september. governing and budgeting in pieces is what leads to government shutdowns. that's not the american way. this bill robs peter to give to paul. how does this bill fund the money to pay for the border
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work that has to get done? first, it strips emergency funding to tackle devastating wildfires that the president has requested because the states have requested it. second, it takes $407 million from the federal emergency management agency's disaster relief fund. money which would be used to help people who've been devastated by wildfires and other natural disasters. madam leader, if we had passed immigration reform a year ago with the bill that passed the house on a bipartisan basis which in this floor we've been denied a vote for more than 380 days, we would not be looking at a crisis on the border the way we are today, but that's the difficulty you have. when you don't fix the broken immigration system, that's what you encounter, and these piecemeal approaches won't solve anything.
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we'll be right back at it in september. that is not the american way. we provide justice to people. we make sure we dispense it the way we should and we take care of our emergencies. let's get it done the right way. let's do two things. let's give the emergency funding that they need at the border to run this crisis right and let's have a vote on the floor to fix the broken immigration system. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from kentucky. robb robb madam speaker, i yield two minutes to -- mr. rogers: madam speaker, i yield two minutes to the gentleman from arizona, mr. salmon, a member of the task force that investigated the border problem. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from arizona is recognized for two minutes. mr. salmon: i rise in strong support of secure the southwest border act of 2014. this kind of came to light a few months ago when the arizona republic noted a story that these families were being dropped off at the bus stations in tucson and phoenix and then
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highlighted the current administration's catch -and-release policies that are encouraging literally swarms of people to come across the 1,500-mile desert of new mexico into the united states, risking .ife, risking their happiness and the fact is we can't keep doing nothing. and this bill will stop these waves and waves of people coming across our border. as we went over to guatemala and we went to honduras and we talked with our state department folks, that's exactly what they said. you've got to make it clear that we move from a catch-and-release policy to a detain-and-deport policy and that's what this bill does. if we want to send a strong message to people that that $5,000 to $8,000 they're paying to these thugs that are
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transporting them across the border and hurting these young boys and girls along the way and then holding them for extra money, extorting their parents, that if we want to stop this from happening and stop the pain that's going on with these children, then the best thing we can do is send a clear message that in america there is no permisos. if you make that journey you'll be sent back to your country. that's the only thing that will make it happen. liberal friends want to throw more money at the problem and perpetuate the problem. they want it to keep happening. i say that's not compassionate. i say continuing that pain and that harm to these children is not a good thing to do, and the way to stop it is to send a clear message. we got folks on my side of the aisle that have problems with the bill. what do they have a problem with? nothing inside the bill. not putting the national guard on the border, not stopping the catch-and-release programs and not giving unfettered access to our border patrol. they can't come up with a good reason to vote against it. they're playing into harry reid's hands.
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mr. rogers: madam speaker, i yield the gentleman an extra minute and wonder if he'd yield? mr. salmon: yes, i'll yield. mr. rogers: do you understand that if we do nothing the experts have told us, if we don't change the law, experts have told us that another 145,000 people will be with us next year alone, is that not correct? mr. salmon: that's correct. conservative estimates said it will cost $2.6 billion to care for the nearly 60,000 that are already here. we're talking about billions and billions of dollars, not to mention the fact that these children are being sexually molested along the way, that they're being killed along the way, that they're being sold into slavery and we can stop it. mr. rogers: if the gentleman will yield? mr. salmon: yes, sir. mr. rogers: i'm focusing on the money part of it. if we don't change the law, you're saying we can expect to pay another few billions of dollars a year -- mr. salmon: just to care for those people. mr. rogers: to care for those people coming across? mr. salmon: yes.
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i don't understand how any conservative in good conscience would not stop that hemorrhage and make sure we're not spending those billions of dollars to pay down our debt. mr. rogers: not only conservatives but everybody would like those kinds of savings. mr. salmon: i would do. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentlewoman from new york is recognized. mrs. lowey: madam speaker, i'd just like to say to the distinguished chairman, i would have liked to hear from these experts at hearings. unfortunately, the majority has not had hearings and we're bringing this bill to the floor without any hearing, without any witnesses, without any information. and i'm pleased to yield to the distinguished speaker one minute. mr. rogers: would the gentlelady yield briefly on that point? would the gentlelady briefly yield? mrs. lowey: ail ill' be delighted. mr. rogers: the 145,000 additional people across the border, that number came from the department of homeland security. so those are governmental estimates if we do nothing on
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the law change. i thank the gentlewoman. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from new york is recognized. mrs. lowey: i'd like to say to our distinguished chairman that it would be helpful in having an analysis of the current statistics and the future prospects at hearings, but we're bringing this bill to the floor, the majority is bringing this bill to the floor without any hearing, without any discussion. this is really not the way to pass important legislation. and, again, we had a bill. we could have had comprehensive immigration reform that passed the senate in a bipartisan way, but thank you, mr. chair, and i'm pleased to yield one minute to the gentlelady from california, ms. pelosi. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from california is recognized for one minute. ms. pelosi: thank you, madam speaker. i thank the gentlelady for yielding, our ranking member on the appropriations committee who from day one knowing of this challenge that we have with the children at the border
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as reacted in a very wise, humanitarian, yes, practical way as to what the best way is to address the challenge under the values of our country and save the children. i was interested in the back and forth between the distinguished chairman of the appropriations committee, mr. rogers, and our ranking member on the subject of the change in the law that is in the legislative language that is in this supplemental. because i agree with our distinguished whip, mr. hoyer, and others who have said there are two things happening here. one is we need to address the challenge, the humanitarian challenge. we need resources to do that for particular purposes, and we should do that in the supplemental. another is to change the law which we shouldn't do in a supplemental.
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it is legislative -- legislating on an appropriations bill in a manner in which all kind of statements can be made which may be anecdotally significant but not significant in terms of the difference that they make -- a difference enough to change the law. and so when people talk about witnesses in one context or another, just saying something on the floor of the house, it's interesting. but there should be hearings, if we're going to change the law, there should be hearings where testimony can come forth, challenged, confirmed, whatever it may be. but a serious discussion worthy of the country that we are, worthy of the congress that passed the wilber force law which was a very bipartisan initiative, and i salute my republican colleagues who played such an important role in passing the bill. and that bill directed agencies
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of government to incorporate anti-trafficking and protection measures for vulnerable populations, particularly women and children, into whether it's postconflict or humanitarian emergency assistance and program activities, according to the law. there was a purpose for the law . with a phrase in an appropriations bill we want to undermine that purpose, that's not necessary to do here. why does this belong in a bill where we are allocating resources to meet a humanitarian challenge that we have? now, let's get to what's in the actual supplemental. i had hoped that we could work in a bipartisan way, and i thought that's the path we were on. the republican majority wanted to decrease the amount of resources and the amount of time. well, that's commensurate.
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it's a lower amount of money in a shorter period of time, that's ok. but when you change what that money is for, then you are doing a disservice to the entire issue. instead of providing adequate resources to meet the humanitarian needs, the immediate humanitarian needs largely of these children, that is just totally inadequate in this legislation in terms of its proportionality in the bill. whether it does not -- it fails to provide any resources for legal assistance to these children to plead their case. they may have a legitimate cause for asylum refugee status to come into the united states or not. but they should be represented and they should be represented in a way that repatriates them
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back to their home country if they do not qualify in a way that is safe. this legislation does not do that. . the american people are fair minded, they are wise, they are practical, they want to help but they want to do so in a way that is fair to everyone involved. they want to see the children. there's not enough resources here to do that on the humanitarian side. they want us to honor who we are with due process for these children. this legislation does not do that. they want to have judges to quickly facilitate giving these people a hearing in addition to the representation that they should have due process. the bill does not. it tramples due process to rush terrified children back to the violence of their home countries. that's not who we are as a country. and it also poses a particular dangetory children victims of gang violence and human --
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danger to children victims of gang violence and human trafficking. human trafficking. it's a global crisis. it is happening at our border. we have a bill to stop it. this legislation on the floor today weakens that and then a manner of distribution of funds and pause it of funds does not -- paucity of funds does not address the challenge. it takes us backward. it's hard to understand. now, what we should be talking about is what mr. tierney suggested, how do we help communities that are receiving these children into their communities and our country? again, how do we help? this bill hurts. so in addition to this, we -- i guess the way you were able to get the votes for this bill, which is even opposed by people
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who are anti-immigration because it's not bad enough, you had to sweeten the pie by having a follow-up bill that would only be taken up if enough of your members agreed to vote for this bad bill. not hat, again, does address who we are as a country. we are a great country because we are a good country. as long ve said that ago as 200 years ago or longer. so let us be good and let us be great and let us do something that really was closer to what the republicans were talking about earlier in this discussion . it seems that in order to get more votes you had to make the ill worse. worse the bill, the more votes on the republican side. no, let's find common ground in
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the middle where we can get the most votes to do the best possible job that we can do. it may not be every good thing that we would ideally like to do, but is a reasonable place to go forward and to honor what the national catholic conference of bishops have talked about, where all the people of faith are urging us to do here in the congress of the united states. and that is, to honosly respect the dignity and -- honestly respect the diggity and worth of all these children, all of them children of god. i get mobbed for quoting what the bishops have said because it is so generous to the children. but let's give the children a fair shot. let's do wetter -- better than this. you know this bill isn't going anywhere. so once again it is a waste of time. it is not a statement of values. it is a statement of meanness. with that i yield back the
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balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman yields back. the gentleman from kentucky is recognized. mr. rogers: may i inquire of the time remaining? the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from kentucky has 5 1/2 minutes. the gentlewoman from new york has nine minutes -- eight minutes. mr. rogers: i reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the entleman reserves. the gentlewoman from new york is recognized. mrs. lowey: madam speaker, i'm pleased to yield three minutes to the gentleman from california, mr. farr, the ranking member of the agricultural subcommittee of appropriations. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california is recognized for three minutes. mr. farr: thank you, madam ranking chair, for yielding. i rise, madam speaker, on this bill with great concern. i feel bringing a lot of fashions to this debate because i lived in the barrios, like the ones children were coming from, when i was a peace corps volunteer in latin america.
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this is not a border crisis. this is not a border security issue. this is a humanitarian crisis. it's caused by problems on both sides of the border. our country has a lot at fault here because we have not addressed comprehensive immigration reform, which means we have 11 million people living in the united states undocumented. they are essentially incarcerated in this contry. they are not allowed to go home because the minute they go home and try to get back to the united states, they get arrested and they are not allowed to ever return. or barred for 10 years to return. what happens? they have been living here for years and years. they have children that they left because there were job opportunities here. and those children are now living in places that are really dangerous. and all of a sudden, yeah, things have changed. they got to get out. these countries are ranked number one, four, and five of the highest murder rates in the world.
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they're leaving because there are real serious humanitarian crisis and they are showing up on our border and they are not sneaking across the board he -- border. they are throwing themselves, help me, help me find my relative, my dad, my parent, my mom in this country. what does this bill do? it doesn't address the humanitarian problems at either end. it hires more cops and puts military in there, national guardsmen. if that's such a great idea, why is california, with probably the busiest border in the world with mexico, not putting the national guard down there? our governors and mayors don't think it's necessary. why are we putting more money for -- in for national guard? we don't need national guard we need red cross. humanitarian crisis. money for arms and more money for military and cops.
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i don't think that's the right answer. we are also doing some something really dumb. we are stripping a law now that says when we give money to these countries -- by the way, before you spend this money on your cops and military, you got to vet them. we have a human rights standard. this bill throws that out. you don't have to do that now. we are going to give you $40 million of american taxpayer money and you don't have to do anything to abide by human rights. that's really dumb. i don't think american taxpayers want their money spent that way. you know, i'm going to call upon my colleagues here not to come down here and think of themselves in a partisan way or election year way. come to this floor when you have to vote on this bill and think of yourself as a parent, as a neighbor. a kid who's knocked on your door and you go, say, oh, my god, she's crying anne, what's happened? my house, they are raping people and killing people and i'm
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running away. this bill says, oh, what's your address, i'll take you home. don't vote for it. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from kentucky is recognized. mr. rogers: madam speaker, i yield two minutes to the gentleman from texas, mr. cuellar. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas is recognized for two minutes. mr. cuellar: thank you, madam speaker. i support full comprehensive immigration reform, but today's vote on this supplemental appropriation bill is to provide funding to i.c.e., border patrol, and other agencies to deal with the humanitarian crisis on the border, an area i represent, an area where i live, an area where 42,000 out of the 58,000 unaccompanied kids have crossed. the policy change in this bill is to get rid of a loophole in the 2008 law that the smugglers in central america and mexico have taken advantage of. all due process and legal protections are left intact under this proposed bill. you will see under a c.r.s.
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report that compares the current law to today's bill, you will see the same due process, the same legal protections are left intact. in fact, i respectfully ask my colleagues in opposition to show me specifically where there's due process and legal protection is taken away out of the bill. i yet have heard where it does this. i have also asked my colleagues in opposition respectfully to sit down with me and offer their alternative solution or their legislative proposal to this border crisis and have yet to hear those solutions. in this appropriation bill we have to provide the funding for the federal agencies to provide an orderly border. but we cannot no longer afford to play defense from the 1-year-old called the u.s.-mexico border. we need to play defense on the 20-yard line and this is why working with the central american countries, working with mexico t

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