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don't agree on anything agree that we should be fixing our broken immigration system, but republicans in the house of representatives have been sitting on a bill for more than a year, it ain't right. why we have to keep fighting. at the beginning of the last century, people fought against the idea of a 40 hour work week. they fought against weekends. they fought against workplace safety laws. 80 years ago, people fought against the idea of social security. 50 years ago, people fought against the idea of medicare. guess what? we won those fights. [applause] and just like in the past, today you still have fining people fighting for health care for
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everybody, or the right to fair againstr even fight eagle pay for equal work but we will win those fights, too. i know that because america is the story of progress. it can be slow and can be frustrating, sometimes you get half a loaf where he wanted the whole of. sometimes you might just get 1/4 of a loaf. but if you look at our history, the story is progress. and that is because they're always been americans who have had the courage to march and organize and to fight for themselves but also to fight for each other. and i'm asking you to do the same thing. i asked you the same thing back in 2008. i'm asking you to believe not just in my ability to bring about the change we need, i'm asking you to believe in yours. i'm asking you to believe in
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you. because even when our politics just ain't right, there's a whole lot that is right with america. america with that dad who punches and every morning to put food on the table, the mom's work in the graveyard shift to provide for her kids, the child who james of being the first in his family to go to college. america is the teacher who stays after work and dips in her own pocket for supplies to help that child get there. america is the auto worker never thought she would make another car again and now can't make them fast enough. the construction worker who is helping build more homes and businesses to get solar panels on the tops. america is on the move. america is on the move. [applause] america is not the party we
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belong to, but the values we share. america is hard work. america is responsibility. america is sacrifice. america is looking out for one another. let's embrace some economic patriotism that says we fall together as one nation, as one people. don't reward companies that ,hift jobs and profits overseas reward companies that are investing right here in milwaukee. [applause] let's make sure our fellow citizens have access to good childcare and preschool and college and health care will stop let's make sure women get fair pay. let's make sure working moms and dads can get a day off if their child is sick or their parents are having a tough time. let's make sure nobody is working full-time to raise the family in poverty.
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these ideas are not un-american, there how we built america. together. i tell you, milwaukee, the hardest thing in life is changing a stubborn status quo. when its even harder seems like some of the folks in power, all they care about is keeping power. but there are plenty of folks who count on you to get cynical and not vote because you think you can't make a difference. that is how they're going to stay in power. they believe you won't get involved, won't organize, won't vote. and that with a special interest stay in power and they will try to divide us and try to distract you and try to bamboozle you and hoodwink you. don't buy it. don't buy it. synnex,despite the
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america is on the move. it is making progress. despite all the opposition, there are workers who have jobs now that did not happen before. their families with health insurance that did not happen before. going to college to could not affordable for, the troops who were in afghanistan are coming home. [applause] cynicism is fashionable these days, but it did not put anybody on the moon. war, jirgan a disease, started a business must that a young mind, built a road or bridge. cynicism is a bad choice. hope is what gives us courage. davis courage to storm a 4ach, the strength to march
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workers rights and civil rights and women's rights and voting rights and gay rights and immigration rights. [applause] believe there are better days ahead. the belief that together we can build up our middle class and hand out something better to our kids. that is what built america. and america's best days are still ahead. i believe it. you need to believe it, too. let's get to work. thank you, god bless you. god bless the united states of america. ♪uest
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>> on the next "washington journal" the national school board association look at the school board of top issues facing public schools. this morning, several u.s. college professors release their findings on minority students and with her current policies are helping or hurting her chances of getting into college. they will speak at an event hosted by the ucla civil rights project beginning five today at 9:00 p.m. eastern on c-span 2. i c-span3, ceremony marking the anniversary of vjday.
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it was think about his grandfather been shot down seven music while serving as a navy fighter pilot -- 70 years ago will serving as a navy fighter pilot. mr.. this of putting afternoon, a discussion on global health issues. the future of health advances and challenges currently being addressed in third world countries. you can see that even at 3:00 in eastern here on c-span. as a look at some of ourprogramming is the c-span networks --
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join the c-span conversation. the british prime minister david cameron announces new measures to seize the passports of u.k. citizens suspected of terrorism. that announcement came after the u.k. raised its terror threat level from substantial to severe in response to be crisis threat in iraq and syria. this portion is 50 minutes.
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>> the prime minister. >> thank you, easter speaker. i would like to make a statement on this weekend's european council and on the measures we're taking to defeat extremist and to keep our country safe. first, on the council we agreed that poland's prime minister should serve as the next council president and italian foreign minister should become the next high representative for foreign and security policy. it was made clear in the acceptance speech that he plays a high priority on addressing britain's concerns over the e.u. i look forward to working with him in his new role. mr. speaker, the council spent most of its time focuses on the big international issues that have concerned us all this summer, the situations in ukraine, gaza, and the growing threat of isil in iraq and syria. i want to discuss each. the presence of russian soldiers on ukrainian soil is completely unjustified and unacceptable. i met with the president before
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the council on saturday and with our support, he was invited to address the council. the real cause of this conflict is russia's refusal to recognition ukraine's independence and sovereignty. decisions on ukraine's political and economic relationships should be for the people of ukraine, no one else. russia appears to be trying to force ukraine to abandon its democrat choices at the barrel of a gun. in the last two weeks, we have seen a dramatic stepping up russian military support for the separatists in the eastern ukraine including russian troops fighting on the ground. mr. speaker, we know from european history the grave danger of a nation state being threatened and undermined in this way. so the european council agrees that the economic costs it has already imposed on russia must be stepped up if moscow persists with the indefensible actions. new sanction measures will be drawn up within a week. mr. speaker, i don't accept the suggestion that sanctions are not having an impact. capital has flown out of russia, banks are short of finance and
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the russian stock market and ruble have fallen significantly. mr. speaker we have to show real resilience and resolve. russia needs to understand if it continues on the current path, then its relationship with the rest of the world will be radically different in the future. turning to israel and gaza, we have all been deeply saddened by the violence we have seen and the dreadful civilian suffering it's caused particularly to innocent people. the government has worked hard with our international partners to help bring about a sustainable cease-fire. we warmly welcome the agreement reached in cairo. mr. speaker, the lost of life this summer has been truly appalling and the number of civilian casualties completely unacceptable. the life of a palestinian child is world the same as a child of any one of our, but support of a lasting settlement that includes a palestinian state does not mean we should support the tactics of hamas who rained down rockets on israel and continually refused to accept cease-fires.
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we will continue to support israel and israel's right to defend itself, but that does not mean we support every decision the israeli government takes, most recently the appropriation of nearly a thousand acres of land in the west bank near bethlehem is utterly deplorable. it's illegal under international law and do nothing to create the kind of peace process we all want to see. we urge the israeli government to reverse this decision. mr. speaker, while i understand the many strong emotions around this tragic conflict, i am deeply concerned by growing reports of anti-semitism on our own streets here in britain. let me be clear, we must not tolerate this in our country. there can never be any excuse for anti-semitism and no disagreements on politics or policy should be allowed to justify racism, prejudice or extremism in any form. turning to the terrorist threat here in the u.k., we have been shocked and sickened by the barbarism we witnessed in iraq in summer.
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the widespread slaughter, the persecution of christian priorities, the enslavement and raping of women and the beheading of the american journal james foley with the voice of what seemed to be a british terrorist recorded on that video. the european council conclusions could not be clearer and i quote. the european council believes the creation of an islamic in iraq and syria and the export of terrorism on which it is based is a direct threat to every european country. on friday the independent joint terrorism analysis center increased the threat level in the united kingdom from you be stan to severe. we now believe that at least 500 people have traveled from britain to fight in the region. this is in addition to 700 from france, 400 from germany and hundreds more from countries including america, canada, austria, denmark, spain, sweden, the netherlands and switzerland.
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they crack down on those traveling to fight in syria and iraq and making sure that all european countries are taking necessary steps to tackle this problem of radicalization. we should be clear about the root cause of this threat, a poisonous ideology of islamistic extremism which believes in using the most brutal forms of terrorism to force people to accept a warped world view and live in a medieval state. we should be clear this has nothing to do with islam which is a religion peacefully observed and devoutly observed by over a billion people and one that inspires countless acts of kindness every day there is. to confront the presence of extremis, we need a tough, intelligent, patient, and comprehensive approach to defeat the terrorist threat at its source. we must use all the resources at our disposal, our aid, our diplomacy and our military. we need a firm security response with a military action to go
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after terrorists, international corporation on intelligence or uncompromising action against terrorists at home. britain has already providing equipment, directly to kurdish forces. we support u.s. military air strikes against isil in iraq and we have secured united nations security council resolution to disrupt the flows of finance to isil, to sanction those who are seeking to recruit to isil and to encourage countries to do all they can to prevent foreign fighters joining the extremist cause. alongside a tough security response, there must also be the right political response. we know that terrorist organizations thrive whether it's political instability and weak or dysfunctional institutions. so we must support the building blocks of free and open societies. in syria, it must mean a political transition and an end to asaad's brutality which has allowed isil to flourish. in iraq, it must begin with a new and genuinely inclusive it government uniting all iraqis against the shared threat.
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the summit in wales this week will provide us an opportunity to look at the effectiveness of the response so far and discuss what more we should do to help the region overcome the isil threat. britain will continue to consider what further role is in our national interests including any further diplomatic, humanitarian, or indeed military measures we might take. mr. speaker, let me turn to how we address the terrorist threat at home. we have already taken a wide range of measures including stopping suspects from traveling to the region by seizing passports, barring foreign nationals from re-entering the united kingdom, legislating so that we can prosecute people for all terrorist activity even where that activity takes place overseas, and bringing forward emergency legislation to safeguard our use of communication data. we have stepped up our operational response with a fivefold response in iria-related arrests, the
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removal of 28,000 pieces of extremist material from the internet this year alone including 46 isil-related videos. i have said all along there should not be a knee jerk reaction or the introduction of sweeping new blanket powers that would ultimately be ineffective. that is not what those who worked so hard to keep us safe actually want. they want a targeted approach that reflects a for seven sick -- forensic focus on the threat we face and that protects the operation of independence and decision-making. to achieve this there are two key areas where we need to strengthen our powers to fill gaps in our armory, around preventing suspects from traveling and dealing with those already here that pose a risk. i want to mention them both briefly. first, stopping people from traveling in the first place. mr. speaker, passports are not an automatic right. the secretary has the discretion to issue, revoke and refuse passports if there is reason to believe that people are planning to take part in
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terrorist-related activity. when police suspect a traveler at the border, they're not able to apply for the prerogative and to only have limited stop and search powers. we will introduce targeted legislation to fill this gap by providing police a temporary power to seize the passport at the border and investigate the individual concerned. this will have safeguards and oversight arrangements. mr. speaker, the house should also be aware that our current royal prerogative powers are being challenged in the courts. i want to be clear. if there is any judgment that threatens the operation of our existing powers, we will introduce primary legislation immediately so that parliament, not the court, can determine whether it is right that we have this power. i can announce today that we'll start preparing the legislation and consult parliament. what is stopping people going, we must also keep out foreign fighters who would pose a threat to the u.k.
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we do have important powers to block return. we can deprive nationals of their citizenship to stop them returning. we can bar foreign nationals on the threat they pose. we legislate the immigration act to allow stronger powers to strip citizenship from naturalized britains. those do not apply to those who are solely british nationals who could be rendered stateless. we should deal with this gap by criminalizing travel to certain countries or fundamentally changing our burden of proof. it would be wrong to deal with this gap by fundamentally changing core principals of our criminal justice system. it is abhorrent that people who declare allegiance elsewhere are able to return to the united kingdom and pose a threat to the national security. we're clear in principal, we need a targeted discretionary power to exclude british nationals from the u.k. and we'll work up proposals on this basis with our agencies in line with our international
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obligations and discuss the details on a cross party basis. mr. speaker, we're also putting on long-standing arrangements on aviation security around the world on a statutory footing. airlines will have to comply with our no-fly list arrangements, give us information on passenger lists and comply with our security screening requirements. if they do not do this, their flights will not be able to land in britain. second, we need stronger powers to manage the risk posed by suspected extremists already here in the united kingdom. the home exert can impose terrorist prevention and investigation measures on security grounds including overnight residence requirements and internet restrictions. the intelligence agencies and the police believe they need stronger powers to impose further restrictions and the independent reviewer of counterterrorism legislation, david anderson, agrees. so well introduce new powers to add to our existing terrorism prevention and investigation measures including stronger local constraints on suspects either through exclusions or
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through relocation powers. mr. speaker, dealing with this terrorist threat is not just about new powers, it is also about how we combat extremism in all its forms. that is why we have a new approach to tackling radicalization focusing on all types of extremism, not just violent extremism. this has included stopping the funding of organizations that promote extremis, banning hate preachers and ensuring that every part of government from schools and universities to prisons are all focused on beating the scouring of extremism. putting a deradicalization program on a statutory footing. anybody subject to the investigation measures will be required to engage with the prevent program. mr. speaker, we are proud to be an open, free, and tolerant nation. but that tolerance must never be confused with a passive acceptance of cultures living
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separate lives or people behaving in ways that run completely counter to our values. adhering to british values is not an option or choice. it is a duty for all those that live in these islands. we will stand up for our values. we will in the end defeat this extremism and we will secure our way of life for generations to come and i commend this statement to the house. >> ed miliband. >> mr. speaker, i thank the prime minister for his statement. this summer of international instability has demonstrated the need for britain to be engaged and build alliances across continents to tackle the problems the world is facing learning lessons from the past. starting with the summit, the appointment of a new high representative and council president which we welcome to commend the excellent work over the last five years. in particular in helping mediate kosovo and leading the efforts for iran to abandon its nuclear program. she has served with distinction.
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turning to ukraine, before the summer, we are appalled by the shooting down of the airliner. we need to face the reality that we have seen no let-up in russian aggression and incursion into ukrainian territory. if anything, the situation has gotten worse, not better. this continued russian aggression must be met with a robust, coordinated and united international response which sends a clear message to president putin. does the prime minister agree this is the time for further sanctions including key energy like energy and financial services. can he also tell us what plans for the nato summit to provide support to ukraine. on the situation in gaza, mr. speaker, we deeply regret the loss of life of 2,000 palestinians including many children and israeli soldiers and civilians. we unequivocally are against the rocket attack and defend israel's right to defend itself.
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but israel's response in this crisis could not be justified. i agree that today's annexation of palestinian land in the words of the prime minister is deplorable. mr. speaker, the truth is that history tells us that this appalling cycle of violence will simply continue unless there are meaningful negotiations towards a two-state solution. can the prime minister tell us what steps he and the e.u. will be taking to be an insistent advocate for those negotiations? mr. speaker, i also join the prime minister in saying what other views on this conflict, nothing can excuse anti-semitism wherever we find it at home and abroad. turning to iraq and syria, the campaign of terror against the innocent including christian minorities and the crow terrific -- grotesque acts of violence have shocked people across the country. it's a particular type of threat that can't be ignored. they threaten the mistake iraq
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state and seek to redraw borders to establish a repressive and brutal state of their own. this is a danger of the export of in ideology. at the same time we must learn lessons from the events. past decade including the 2003 war in iraq and proceed with the requisite humility. that means being clear about our objectives, the means to achieve them and always conscious of the need to built legitimacy and alliances well beyond britain and the united states. we support the u.s. air strikes that are protecting innocent people at risk from isil. we believe it is right to provide crucial support to the kurds' military effort. however, as president obama has said, defeating isil cannot be achieved by military means alone. so can i ask the prime minister some questions about that. first, i agree with him there can be no defeat of isil without attacking the sources of its support in iraq. what role the e.u. is playing in
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ensuring the new iraq government promotes a new settlement which does indeed end the years of exclusion of sunni minorities. second, isil would not be the force it is if other countries in the region had not overtly and covertly provided ideology as well as financial and other support. can i ask what discussions he has had with countries in the region or will have including our traditional allies to make clear the stand that needs to be taken against isil and its ideology. what further steps does he think can be taken to encourage neighboring countries including turkey to tighten their borders to stop the flow of arms and fighters to syria and iraq. third, does he agree to any strategy to tackle isil and neighbors countries including turkey, saudi arabia and iran. i agree about what he says about a political transition in syria. does he is a how he believes this could be achieved. the given the need for a multilateral approach he talked about, how is he using our
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chairmanship of the security council to build the alliance necessary. final, beating isil home must show the same determination overseas and proceed on the basis of evidence. just as we were shocked by the actions of isil, so people across britain are appalled that british citizens are a part of isil's murderous activities. we see when ideology turns to act of violence. to make it easier for border authorities to seize the passports of those participating in the conflict and will study the proposal. mr. speaker, let me say on his discretionary powers on excluding british nationals from the country, it's unclear what he is proposing. i'm happy to talk in cross party conversations. can he give more information at
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this stage about what his proposals might consist of. with regard to the most serious high risk cases where convictions in the court cannot be achieved, i welcome the prime minister's recognition of the independent reviewer on terrorism. in particular, the inability to relocate suspects away from their communities. relocation was indeed a central part of control orders and it was a mistake to get rid of them in the first place. does he also agree, mr. speaker, that we need a mandatory and comprehensive program of radicalization, not just for those under, but on the fringes of extremism in iraq and syria. and further, does he agree we need to stop young people being recruited to isil in the first place. i urge him to overhaul the prevent program which has been on the police response to extremism and needs to do far more with parents and communities. as we tackle these domestic consequences of isil, we work with the government to face the threat at home.
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the events of this summer how turning the back on the complexities of our world is not an option. we must also show that britain has learned the lessons of our history with an approach based on a general multilateralism. in responding in this way, our government will have our full support. >> prime minister. >> thank you, mr. speaker. i thank him for the points he made and the tone that he made them. there is widespread all party support for most of the issues that we're discussing today. first of all, i think he is right to praise cappie ashton. let me add my voice to his. she has done an excellent job. that job isn't yet complete. she is involved in extremely negotiations not at least with iran. we wish her well. on ukrainian sanctions, he asked if we were looking at further sectoral sanctions, we are, the council set it out. what is important that we fill in some of the gaps that have been left so far. on financial sanctions, we need to make sure that we press home on things like syndicated loans
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which others are opposed and we have been prepared to support. in terms of the support we give to ukraine, we give financial support, technical support. there is obviously a partnership between ukraine and nato and nato will be undertaking some exercises in the western part of ukraine. i don't believe the right approach would be to arm the ukrainian rebels. we should focus the support in the areas that i have identified. the best thing we can do to help ukraine is to build the alliance across europe and america more strong sanctions to demonstrate to russia that the relationship with the rest of the world will be fundamentally changed. on gaza, he asked what we were doing to get meaningful negotiations underway. of course, one of the things we do is one of the most important funders of the palestinian authority, want to encourage the palestinian authority to restore its authority in gaza and that could be a stepping stone towards further negotiations. in terms of isis, i agree with
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what he says that there is no military solution. we should work with partners. we should work with countries in the region. we should learn the lessons from the past. i welcome his backing for what we're doing to help resupply and support the kurds and we should continue to do that. he then asked a series of questions in terms of pressure on the iraqi government to reach out to all parts of iraq, part of the solid international pressure to make sure that happens. in terms of talking to powers in the region to make sure that financial support is cut off for extremism, those are conversations i have had with many over the summer and will continue to have. in terms of turkey, we're working more closely with turkey than perhaps ever before on this issue in terms of our security intelligence and other cooperation. in terms of measures at home, i'm delighted he is going to support our measures for seizing passports. of course, we're happy to discuss it on an all party basis as we introduce this legislation. i welcome what he says about all
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party discussions about other discretionary powers to make sure that we correct the problems that we have in a proper way. on his last two points, on prevent, i think it is important that prevent is focused on counterradicalization. i think in the past, some money was spent on organizations who actually were perhaps parts of the problem rather than parts of the solution. i believe it's very important we just don't target violent extremism. we target the extremist narrative from which the men and women of violence draw succor. i think that is important. finally on the issue of terrorism prevention orders and controlled orders, let me quote what david anderson, our terrorism visor who he quote the -- what he said. he said this in his most recent report. there is no reason to put the clock back. the majority of changes have civilized the system without making it less effective. that's why we should take this
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as a basis and amend them as necessary. >> does the prime minister recognize that one of the reasons why there are misguided british jihaddists fighting in arabia is because of the folly of those in the gulf and in the west who first encouraged and then supported a rebellion against the syria. we must avoid under the banner of democracy intervening in religious civil war which has already lasted for 1,300 years. >> on this occasion, i'm not sure i do agree with him. i would argue that the rise of islamic state of isis has had two prisons approximately
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causes. one is the brutality that assad has shown to his own people and the second is the failure of the government in iraq to represent all of its people. i think it's those two issues we need to recognize have been the principal cause of this problem together with the real problem which is the islamist extremist narrative that finds my broken -- any broken state, any source of conflict, any sign of weakness and exploits it. >> mr. jack straw. >> thank you, mr. speaker. in an article which the prime minister had in the daily telegraph on the 16th of august, he spoke about the need to build alliances in the region, including he said, perhaps even with iran. the does he agree that, yes, while there is a negotiation to be with iran a nuclear dossier, but frankly as he indicated, we need iranian corporation more than ever. it's one of the few stable states in the region. given that, say, therefore, what actions he has taken to lead the
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full establishment of diplomatic relations with iran because the embassies have still not been fully reopened? >> he has considerable experience dealing with iran. we are re-engaging with iran. he knows about the steps already taken. we should do so very cautiously knowing iran's history and what it has done. what is most required is a government that represents all of its people. we need the assistance of other countries in making sure this comes about. reports would've suggested over the weekend.
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there is doubt about whether that would be legal, because of our international obligations. hardly anything has been said about the practicality of a such proposal. . be appropriate? a great deal of work needs to be done. the point that he makes. able toand today we are deal with foreign nationals who want to return to britain. they can be excluded. we have the example of someone who wants to come back to
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britain in order to wreak havoc in our country. there is a gap that should be properly dealt with. support airstrikes on isis in the region and particularly against shia muslims and kurds and minorities. there should be no question about british troops on the ground. in addition neighboring nations need to take ownership of this fight and could he press our fundinglies to stop iranrism and could he get and turkey to engage, as well. could he schedule a debate on
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foreign policy. the world is a dangerous place. we need to have a debate. debate.e looking at the i think it will be worth while if time could be found. agree with the tenor of what he said. help those ont the ground who are doing their best to make sure that the islamic state is properly addressed in iraq. him about reddish combat troops on the ground.
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>> i agree about the nature of the threat that we face. withuld have seen reports air attacks in libya. is there any sign that arab states and the west would join together military in combating isis? friends's my contribution is along the same lines. solutionwe can get a on our own. thatrecognize the threat islamic states threatens then and threatens us. our help should be toward the government and working together to address the threat.
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july, we came to the task force and asked for further action to expose the ideology of these extremists and for more communitiesmuslim to be able to challenge these messages. i am disappointed that the statement today has little to issuesut either of those . i would very much like to see them. isi am disappointed that she disappointed. there are few people with whom i agree more than the right honorable lady. look at what the task force
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achieved in prisons, in schools, and working with muslim organizations that want to deal with this problem. giving them legal assistance. all of those things are happening. i will look to see what more can be done. i congratulate my friend on the statement. should betionals prevented from returning to the country. principlesfend basic of our own the common law. i would recommend the best course must be to bring these individuals to justice. he has been successful in doing
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that over the past nine months. >> the first approach we should be taking is trying to prosecute and convict people in our own country. successful.ave been anyhould make sure that properlyhe armory are addressed. we are looking at this passport confiscation effort and i believe it is important we discuss that as well. profile is as dire as we are bled it to be, give us some comfort by the job cut planning in the agency.
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>> this government has prioritized resources into those agencies that are most at risk in terms of combating terrorism. it has been generous compared with other organizations. again at the look question of resources. nothing matters more than this. i know there are suspicions when politicians talk about the threats we face to our nation. that body decides the level of threats facing this country. that otherd offshoots and because of the numbers of people traveling, it was right to raise the level to
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severe. it is their decision, not mine. >> can my friend tell us what discussions he has had with other leaders about stopping the sale of oil on the black market to isil. and under what circumstances the united kingdom would join u.s. airstrikes on positions. >> he is absolutely right. those are things we should pursue. sil makes a lot of money from selling oil to president assad. that demonstrates the character of these people. in terms of our engagement, we
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have brought to bear our diplomatic and other tools in our armory and we have also used our military. surveillancevided that are helping the americans. we support the american airstrikes. we think that is right. ourcan we best pursue national interests in helping those people on the ground combating isil? >> the prime minister has pledged we will stand up to our values. how is it compatible with our values to continue to sell arms to countries like saudi arabia which is one of the most significant sources of funneling to extremists groups worldwide? >> we have some of the toughest
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rules on arms exports. we have to make sure they are subject to the rule of law. we would take a different view to many domestic rules in saudi arabia. the authorities have change their approach and it is worked that they have. jihadistting british and returning to the united kingdom. itself,e convention domestic legislation in certain countries may render that person stateless under article eight where they act inconsistently with the duty of loyalty or has declared allegiance to another state.
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doesn't he expect that is where we are now and that it would be important to get that understand that the matter can be made clear? friendink my honorable makes a good point. where everyone will want us to examine this is the idea that somebody can go to serious -- s plans toe all kinds of do less damage, and returning to britain. that is the problem we need to address. doesn't the gentleman recall when he made his previous statement on gaza, i said these ladies could kill but could not win.
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after 2000 later palestinians have been killed by the israelis, with an enormous amount of physical damage, which makes life next to impossible, what will the government do to prevent a further attack on gaza ? and will the now impose an arms ban on israel?] >> we must convince everyone to have a negotiated solution to the underlying question, the need for a palestinian state. we need to persuade the israelis to make it a greater responsibility. we need to persuade those who have supported hamas that terrorist attacks on israel when not bring palestinian statehood
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closer. protects the united kingdom -- the most immediate threat is by those around is is. they will bear the first brunt of the need to protect innocent civilians. but we can help. request ofceived a arms from the kurdish, either directly or through the eu? how will the government respond? received isave request from the kurds to facilitate the transport of arms from jordan and albania to the kurdish regional authorities.
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i am not aware of a specific request from the kurdish regional authorities for arms and military support. they are our allies and friends. they're putting the pressure on isil. we very much want them to be part of a future iraq. we take a very positive view. >> the german chancellor has kurdsd to provide the with arms. when do you think it would not be in britain's best interest to do so as well? there is anyhink difference between what the german chancellor is saying and what i am saying.
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we think the kurds need to be properly armed in order to deal with the threat that they face. >> the european union has failed to respond to the flagrant russia.on in ukraine by doesn't the nato summit need to send a stronger signal? interesting suggestion, which i can take on board. it is not easy to get 28 countries to agree on sanctions. i would argue in the recent weeks and months, that is what we have done. i want sanctions to have a greater effect. they are freeing pressure to bear.
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somehow we will back off or give up. russia will sell for permanently from the isolation that follows. havenumber of individuals traveled to join and fight in iraq and syria. how is a young man been able to use a u.k. passport to travel through the eu to fight, and does he have full confidence in the border force that there have been no serious lapses in the procedures, particularly given the numbers we have seen going to fight. >> i will look at the case that the honorable gentleman produces. beenber of passports have confiscated. we need to do everything we can
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to stop this from happening. theiven the situation in ukraine, when will the prime minister investigate equipment toward the baltic, ensuring there is a british battalion under the command to be diploid in rapid reaction and to ensure we make a binding commitment to 2% of gdp on defense. >> i welcome this question and congratulate my friend to head up the important committee in this house. many of the suggestions will be addressed at the nato conference. when russia look set estonia or poland, they see french and german soldiers, too.
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we need to make real the commitments that we have. withve artie taken steps air patrol and -- we have already taken steps with air patrol. we are one of the few countries in europe that meets the 2% defense spending. we should urge others to do the same. his words would be more credible if his view and reading of history was as good as all namelyff that drops out, 12 months ago this prime minister tried to get the house of commons to join him in order to help and arm the isil
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guerrillas against attack. had it not been for the labour party, he would have been on this. he wants to get on his hands and knees and thank the labour party for not taking britain down that road. >> my memory of the discussions we had a year ago was about the use of chemical weapons. the use of chemical weapons is wrong and we should turn away from the use of chemical weapons. join in congratulating the prime minister in pointing out ideology. of the isil would he go further -- that isil represents a substantial threat to the integrity of iraq.
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american airstrikes have been successful in halting the further advance of isil. get a maritime force to deter britain in engaging in an attack. >> we support the action the americans have taken to assist the authorities to be back the isil. wayave assisted in our own through the humanitarian aid and the intelligence and other support we have given to the americans. i do not think that is the right approach. we should be demonstrating. nato stands behind all of its members.
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nato has important partnerships with countries like ukraine. i do not believe the solution to the problems in ukraine is a military solution. escalation of the political solution. the ukrainian people must be able to choose their future. >> david cameron will face-off against this wednesday. c-span2.ee a live on "washington journal" is coming up next. our guest includes thomas gentzel. then, a discussion on common
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core standards initiative and the role on u.s. education policy. plus, your phone calls, facebook comments and tweets. journal" is next. ♪ host: good morning. set to leavema is on an overseas trip to estonia before making his way to wales to participate in this week's nato summit. the president is expected to take some time this week to visit pupils at a welsh school. backamerican students are in class by today to start a new school year. most of today's show will be devoted to education issues. we will explore the debate over the common core and

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