tv Key Capitol Hill Hearings CSPAN October 8, 2014 6:00am-7:01am EDT
so we should start with the honorable gustavo. the averaget lifespan of un-american i would , hope your prediction is very accurate. check with me in 50 years. >> let me start by saying yesterday there was a debate for the governor's race in new mexico. both debates are in spanish. i think this indicates the kind out to the hispanic community. in states like in mexico, half the population is hispanic. it is not just the states that are traditionally associated with latinos at colorado and mexico and florida that have high percentage of hispanics.
almost half -- roughly 9% or more of the population is hispanics. in states like connecticut, hawaii, george's -- georgia -- ver 10% is hispanic. not all of them are registered or eligible to register but over time the percentage of those hispanic descent who can vote will increase. i think getting to the heart of what the panel is about is to what extent do the panel's vote in ways that further the nterest related to the origin? i would argue you have roughly a third of hispanics in the united states that were born in latin america. ted cruz was born in canada. increasingly the individuals are very interested in seeing the u.s. policy reflect
nterest. on the development front and ecurity front, which hopefully we will get it to. -- get into. i think increasingly issues elating to hispanics linked to the country of origin will become more and more important. > before we move on, can i ask you a quick question -- can we even say there is a hispanic or latino electorate in the united states? does that exists as a single entity?
>> that is a great question. 10 years ago i would have said no. i would have said the hispanic vote really depends on the country of origin but i would say the immigration issue has galvanized the hispanic community in ways i have not seen before. i was born in cuba. grew up in miami. when i got to college i've met folks from other parts of latin america, and they consider themselves either primarily puerto rico or dominican or mexican americani think the immigration issue has caused a lot of hispanics to feel they are part of an embattled group and the need to stick together. that is my general sense. >> a couple of context issues. i think the way in which these issues play themselves out of a local level, i think we need context about what our boat moving issues today and in this midterm if you are looking at the washington post before i came here, 19% of the economy.
2% said terrorism. 8% said immigration. went back to july and immigration was the number one issue in july. i think it had to do with the news about children crossing the border. there is volatility in terms of what the public opinion is thinking about him up but i would not say latin america is on the ballot. for those of us who think about international affairs issues or particularly energized, we may care about it but in west virginia second congressional district, it is not about moving issue per se. i think we need to be careful about how and where it will be expressed. i will share a couple of and it notes. whenever i have raised the issue -- i speak to a lot of
embers of congress and a lot of folks running for governor, and often times i am the one that has to prop the conversation about international affairs. out because they are not globally aware or sophisticated, it is just it is not a moving issue. for those of us in think tanks it is fascinating and interesting. we need to understand it is art of a larger context. i asked governor christie about his trip to mexico. he went on for 10 minutes. a very sophisticated account of mexico. he said i think the mexican
leadership is sophisticated, american educated. the reforms are very important. and imagine if canada with the xl keystone pipeline and having increased energy investments in the united states and things ike hydraulic rack sharing along with increased foreign investment, imagine having a regional energy power in north america, what would that mean? he then took it and pivoted it to the ukraine. he said if we could offer europe, who are in some ways constrained for what they can do, we will produce so much energy that we can be your energy supplier so that we are not in hock to the russians. that was his sophisticated analysis. he sees an opportunity for the united states we think in regional terms that has to euros strategic terms. -- zero strategic terms. let me show you think showing on the ballot. the challenges and central america, which are personally a result of governance, corruption, but also partially
the result of gangs, and part of this is a u.s.-generated problem is causing people to send their children on trains and put themselves in danger. thousands of children. i think one of the ways this will show itself on the ballot, we need to think about how we respond to them. not just that the border but how will we respond in a sophisticated way? the way we have looked at the roblems in columbia. 15 years ago he had a onversation in this room -- we have this conversation in the room. columbia is a bad brand. 15 years later people say i want to invest in columbia, it
is an ally. so a big part of that was america's engagement. something that was through drugs or and security being exported with something on the ballot that people were concerned about. exhibiting as a security risk. also a development challenge. energy, the challenges and central america, and let me add one more. i am reading a very interesting book. it is making the argument that latin america and the united states to progress and develop, we will have to have more sophisticated ways of vocational training and education. we will have to have education that will involve the private sector and the role of
technology. this is the role of challenge in the latin america challenge. he very elegantly licks the -- links the issues. but this will be something that people care about as an issue ecause it has to do with their ability to progress. qc education, from time to time, but i think linking them will become an intricate mastech issue. >> one of the reactions to the crisis with unaccompanied minors coming across the border was people saying maybe we need a plan that central america. >> we have read about that, saying i am very much in favor of land central america. historically the attention span on central america is short. if you go back 30 or 40 years
we will respond to a crisis and focus and then we take our attention away. it will require the bipartisan extended focus the way we did in columbia over 10 or 15 year time to make a significant change on the problem of governance and security, as well as plucking young people into productive activities. they will either use their energies in unproductive ways or productive ways. it is in all of our collective nterest to have them participate in productive ways. >> it will be hard to not be repetitive on this panel. when you talk about the hispanic community, the latino post is an often gets thought of as something separate, something somewhat un-american. i think one of the biggest
challenges we have as a community and americans is to try to break that down and really clarify what the actual dynamics of the committee are. he plurality of non-hispanic whites leave most hispanics were illegal. that is a tremendous statistic and tells you what a disconnect between the perception is in the united states and what the reality is. more than 50 million people of latino origin in the united states. the population is only 10.7 or 11 million, somewhere in there. that has to be rectified. essentially as much a 60,000. many of them, if not most will be able to register.
i think where the conversation about latin america and latino issues come into play is many do not feel motivated or connected to the political system or a sense of belonging or being reached out to by politicians. that is where we will have to make the switch. these issues are not specific to the community. hey are important to the broader interest of the united states. hat needs to be addressed to residents important. when you have issues like republican government shutdown, they affected security operations that were decisively targeted in north america. those that are smuggling people north, and then complain about the crisis at the border. e have to start looking at how the issues are interconnected and how they affect the united states as a whole and not think of it as latin america issues or issues that affect hispanics.
to start breaking down the barriers so that as politicians nd government officials look at latinos, they don't see it as separate and distinct and checking a box, which is often what happens, but rather, they are embracing that. i think the candidates that will do well are those that recognize that and start ahead of the curve. you are ready see that in many places. florida is a good example. when the president decided to delay executive act soon on immigration that have repercussions for the control of the senate. that's i think his word will will have to start to look at that from the national parks are. hispanics are not going to play
that big of a role in the elections. so he can take that risk and protect folks like mike prior. the reality is he may have done the opposite. you look at a state like colorado that has a very tight race. hispanics have a significant population. if they do not turn out, energized and motivated, that could potentially cost control of the senate. also another state where you may not expect that. the state like north carolina where you have 9% of the electorate in 2012. that could control the senate. you could certainly have plenty of other races. i mentioned florida. you see a lot of colombian americans which is traditionally a swing vote. they do not necessarily have a trong affiliation with the
party. the newer immigrants were venezuela and latin america. reaching out to them makes a difference. cuba continues to be an issue. politicians are having to adapt to the reality that a lot of cuban-americans actually want to go back and visit their family and support small businesses over there. a lot of politicians are clinging to hard-line policies which is alienating some of the younger folks. whether or not they are alienating is yet to be seen. that is a reality candidates have to address and have to tay on top of. again, the candidates that are realizing and recognizing how these things adapt earlier are the ones that are going to be successful and begin to integrate the hispanic outreach ot as something separate but
integrated. >> you have had contact with people involved in politics across the country. what do they tell you about this one fundamental question. why latinos are not turning out in bigger numbers and elections? >> it is feeling connected, a sense of ownership. but the same time venezuela was absolute crisis. very little coverage in mainstream media of what was happening. that really spoke to the disconnect between main stream media and 50 million latinos here.
all you have to do is compare and i the newscast -- nightly newscast on telemundo with that on nbc. you see a completely different set of issues. ukraine in syria. hispanics care about education and the economy. in polling you regularly see it outpacing education. they often want to hurt other countries of origin. one thing we have done, in 2005 i traveled with howard dean to mexico. when they were in the middle of the president trey -- president primary election. we understood this will receive a tremendous amount of coverage and mexican media. a lot of border media is heard in the border states and that reverberates. that is something that chris christie recognizes and the starting to do. if you want to reach a population the miami you can go through a radio that is columbia that has a lot of penetration into new york and
los angeles. so you have to be able to go out there and talk to them about not just the issues they care about that are domestic and also those that are international. show them you care about the part of whatever issue you're talking about. the biggest mistake they're making is they will hire someone that is latino and think that has checked the box. we have this thing with howard dean that just because you're black does not mean you can only stop -- talk to black people. our politics is still caught in that ethnic-type approach that does not make a lot of sense.
it does not make a lot of people feel like they are part of it. part of it is it does not include a bigger set of what the population really looks like. >> much of your work has been involved in business development and also have a component as a goal poverty reduction. why shouldn't the latino voter care about whether business is doing well in a central american country or whether there are high rates of poverty there? and not only why should they care, but do you think that they do care? >> a great question. a lot of americans do not realize latin america and caribbean as a whole is the
largest trading partner. we export more to that part of the world than any other part of the world. i am roughly speaking about gdp per capita about a quarter of the united states. just imagine if they continue to grow. for that reason alone, it makes sense to do investment. ne thing i worked on was the increased the largest in history that doubled the capacity of the bank. from the u.s. taxpayer perspective, commitment was $5 million over four or five years. that leveraged an additional $50 billion to $60 billion of lending over the next 10 years. you cannot get that kind of leverage anywhere else. something very smart to do for those reasons i'm a but also because of what we saw at the
border. the border with the united states and mexico -- i have -- easured it but the border with canada has to be at least twice hat. you do not have the canadians trying to get into the united states, and there is a reason for that. canada doing relatively well from a economic perspective. more we invest, the more the folks there will decide to stay in the countries. it is a very hard thing to leave one's country. you do not leave unless you really have to. i was born in cuba. my family felt compelled to leave when they did. that is another reason that we have folks that want to stay in
the region and then you see how the illegal immigration issue goes away. >> it is almost somewhat counterintuitive. dan mentioned the question of latin america is not vote generating issue in the election in a lot of places, get it has been in other elections, right? nafta was a big issue out one time. in a different era, a large focus. how do you explain that? >> i think it has to do with these are trends. right now the issue has been immigration. that is the issue in the media and spotlight. would say two things. one is the issues will grow in importance as the population grows. the second issue is you have almost had the developments of two parallel media conversations here. any night you see a whole bunch of issues having to do with regional issues.
i do not think in 1991 and 1990 you have that kind of coverage or people watching it. so i think there has been a change in the context. not that these issues are less important. i think there is just a different approach to dealing with it. i would agree with what has been said, there is a last of a way of mainstreaming the issues. there is a separation here. you touched on it, and i think dan touched on it, too. you want to talk about latin america stuff, get someone who was a latin america last name and you check the box. i do not think it is like that anymore. i think it is getting less and
less like that. ideally what we would like to see is these issues are part of the critical mass of issues that the candidates would have to deal with. >> dan is correct that when you pull -- poll the hispanics for the most important issues, by and large hispanic americans are no different than others. you care about jobs and health care and education. the immigration issue is important to them for social reasons. it is what i said earlier, you feel in terms of party identification, you ask yourself, what party do i feel more comfortable with and what party if i vote for i will be most welcome? i think the immigration issue is the canon to the civil rights issues for americans in
the 1960's and 1970's. it is not by coincidence that the vast majority are democratic because they saw what happened in the debate's in the 1960's and 1970's. as a democrat, i am stunned the republican party has not done a better job of reaching out to republicans. there was a study in 2012 for they identified this as an issue, and yet look what has happened. i think hispanics are looking at the debate and i think this is the time when they are forming the opinions of party affiliation. if democrats are successful and grabbing them now, i think they will hold on them for a long time. lex if you look at the -- >> if you look at the nafta debate and why it received so much ttention, it was not driven by
latinos and the hispanic competition it was driven by the loss of jobs in mexico. i think that is a really great example of how we have to make sure people understand latin merica issues are not specific to hispanics but the general situation and benefit and prosperity of the united states. it was also the fear of losing jobs that drove the issue and made a powerful. that is part of what they have been great at bringing attention to the immigration issue. it has backfired in a certain way in that it brought attention to the immigration issue in a way that seized hispanics of foreigners. a lot of hispanics have been there for generations, long before those states where even part of the union. so those are realities we have to address. there needs to be leadership in
both parties, particularly in the republican party that looks at the very small minority. most republicans are ready to vote for immigration to support -- plenty of them even look at that. a very small minority that fears demographic change and has to recognize those that are not legal are a very small portion. you look at arizona, there was a village discovered in arizona yesterday. some of these folks were -- everyone in the village was like where did they come from you felt that this the attitude is hispanics were there for hundreds of years and we have to tell the story. we have to make sure they understand hispanics fought in the revolutionary war and
hispanic war on both sides and every conflict has been a part of the american fabric. it allows for the issues of fear and has united latinos. i think it is becoming a sense of respect. the way it is talked about makes you feel your entire community is under attack. also, when you address them you give them a sense that we respect you enough to care about the other issues you also care about. x a couple of things. i think the countries have changed. they have been some of the best growth years for latin america. we want those countries to succeed and have conversations with mexico and peru that we have with south korea and other countries that used to get assistance from the united states and western europe. i think that is happening. i think the kind of conversation when the governor comes to washington, he wants to talk about trade, higher education and technology.
he wants to talk about how can i get people to prosper and succeed and do not in a way that is interesting for both of us. i think we are having a more sophisticated armor station. i think on things like trade we will see a lot of credit for his excellent record on trade deals. think it is a problem if we are only tautness -- talking about the trade record. i think there were 15% that voted. i think the bush administration push for panama. and the colombian free trade deals that took three or four years to get them done. president bush spent a lot of time on those. i do think we do not necessarily get credit. often times i think the immigration debate is very divisive, but i think there are
divisions in both parties that take up the labor unions that have not been asked about immigration and i think about the first two years of president obama's charm and he had democrats in the house and senate and do not pass comprehensive immigration eform at the time. i think it is sometimes republicans are easy to scapegoat but i think it is more complicated on the one hand. in terms of the changing trajectory of the society in latin america, the kinds of conversations we are having our different things. they want more sophisticated discussions about education, training and infrastructure and there is an opportunity to prosper here. where they grew up as well.
we want to have that kind of a mutually interesting dialogue or conversation. i think we're getting there. i think the past 10 years have been part of changing the conversation. >> part of what i think matters is the government diversity in media organizations. not a tremendously big hispanic residents at government or the international level. so they tend to not look south but still towards europe. beginning to change to include more people but not quite where t needs to be. as educational institutions again to look south. one thing the administration is trying to do is 100,000 strong. traditionally when people want to study abroad they think paris, london. as more people start to get comfortable so it is not just for latino americans heading south but more of traditional
populations that would otherwise still study in europe begin to study in south america, i think that will help. you see those developments that will lead to eventually those same people, then they will be n a position at cnn or the state department where they can influence things. >> one of the networks. >> on that note i think there are a couple of things that need to be mentioned. an mentioned a little bit that the bush administration has ree-trade agreements and had a budget of over $2 million. when you look at the current administration you see $1.5 billion. you see the programs like the
one you mentioned, but there has been a pivot to asia and there has been a questioning with regard to the commitment to dealing with these issues. the commitment has been the initiative and not really expanded into other areas as much. on the one hand you have a lot of folks in this country on immigration discussions. the region, as it moves along, and i think you talked about this, is interested in investment and improving the social ability of its citizens. education issues as mentioned. we are forced to have this discussion regardless of republican democrats simply
because the region itself. >> it is privately funded so that speaks to the issue as well. f you look at the day to day work, from 2009 there has been an emphasis on trying to develop stronger relationships with will. mexico in the free-trade agreement is the perfect example to foster that. everyday there is work that oes into that. every day they continually get distracted from latin america to the middle east.
that certainly sends the wrong signal even if there are people ho every day try to strengthen the relationship on trade and security, you still have a problem of perception that i think needs to be corrected. secretary kerry, and of his first mistakes is to say they are in our backyard. secretary clinton visited the region and unprecedented amount of times. a lot of the mile she longed were to latin america. secretary kerry has not been as focused on not america and that is felt inside the state department and latin america. the first question i often get is why doesn't the united states care about that america? >> we are going to take the microphone and pass it into the audience so they can ask you those wings and some of the other things. who wants to go first? >> hello.
hris christie was not the only governor who went to mexico. also governor jerry brown in california. does this mean at the local level we can trust more business development between governments will occur or will that be more -- or will we have to do that through major application? >> california is one of the est example of having a strong relationship with mexico and some of the other border states where they recognize the mutual interest in security border issues. we talked about getting trafficking and multinational gangs a little while ago. the efforts between the states and especially california and mexico are pretty commendable and how they're working together not just on the government side but bringing together public and private interests to help deal with the issues. >> you have mayors going to
visit mayor's them america and the other way around. and the business level where it is most important. the interesting trend is saying the companies realizing they ant to expand and they see the hispanic market as being very attractive. we tend to think about during this is america's -- is going to americans going to latin america. increasingly i think we will see latin america wanting to do business in the united tates. >> a lot of them are seeing this as part of the role. fourth-generation mexican-american. her spanish is beautiful. she has a distant relative who was a second-level hero in the exican revolution so the
household name is samuel adams, paul revere. so when she goes to mexico people know who she is. she speaks rate spanish but her family has been here over 100 years. she had a relative who had some connectivity to the history of mexico. people connect with that. you have governors in michigan and maine who make trips. not just a border state. they see themselves as this is part of the role to be ambassadors. or example, in maine i asked this question at a meeting and the current governor said 90% of maine is foreign. we are jumpstarting the paper and pulp start with the mexican
paper and pulp firm investing in maine. because of what i said about the changing dynamics and economics and investment going the other way, it is an interesting twist. we are in a different world so even a place like maine we're seeing this. governors absolutely have to do this as well. >> my name is alvin straight. i work for dss consulting. i am interested in unemployment and the work life, especially for young people. i was curious about higher education high schools and work waste. > just going back to the issue of where countries are in the
economic development, there is a challenge around the middle income trap. when the governor came to washington and met with coral and i and others, he wanted to talk about community college partnerships. president bush did this. president obama did this. i also think this issue about gangs, we need to find -- i think we will find young people whether it is in l.a. or somewhere else, young people will use the energy for productive activities or unproductive. that is not just a challenge for the state or foreign aid providers but getting companies involved. getting community and churches
involved. it also means new ways of training and education. especially folks that leaves the great education system. i highly recommend if you are interested in this topic. >> that be the start amazon review right there. -- beats a starred amazon review right there. >> i worked for the hispanic heritage foundation. i had a question about how can oliticians find this as an investment in latin america? i think it is very hard to make the case of long-term investments.
i think it is hard to convince folks we need to invest in securities social economically. how can they create the platform? >> one way is we are talking politicians and of democracy. you want to appeal to the interest of the voters. to the extent that different districts, talking about the house of representatives or district levels you have a significant population that still has family in central america. i would think it is a very attractive case to make him that we should be investing for security regions -- raisins and you are helping family members and friends that are still there. you communicate with the individuals that know how difficult times are there. these are investments we are making. t has never experienced as a
false. these are not grants we are making and hoping for the best. the principal is paid back, as ell as the interest. otherwise, if you look at companies as enterprise in the united states, a greater percentage of those are owned by hispanics actually trade to latin america in exports. so i think that is the case you could make. trying to help create government programs and working with private institutions are to promote exports. >> i would add also, there are a lot of companies all over the region that are competing globally. so this is not just to bolster security as much as these are smart, business decisions. the region is now growing in a way that it has not before.
a very diverse region. you have issues such as where the business environment is not the best foreign investment. in other places come or brazil and chile colombia, peru and mexico -- these countries have environments and regulatory frameworks that are much more attractive to businesses not just from the united states but all around the world. i think it is unattractive case to make that if we want to take off in the region, have better relationships, want to be able to hit the ground in a place where we will get return on investment, we have to be in these countries. not just an issue of bolstering security in latin america for instant. it is also putting latin
america in the global framework of investment. very relevant in that regard. >> our national leaders need to realize they need to invest time and effort does all of these things reverberate. one thing i have said is south americans need to recognize if they want to be taken seriously on the world stage, they need to be serious like -- like threats like isis and they are really global threats. >> there is no latin american country that is in the coalition that the united states is organizing to come back -- combat isis all around the world. >> not just at the assistant secretary of really from the top. this administration has designated vice president biden to me the point person on the issues.
he has become engaged and that is important. really as much as they need to take responsibility, we they let's we need to elevate our our reach. in the economic prosperity that helps both sides. we avoid creating a vacuum that allows foreign threats to enter latin america. >> i think dan was chomping at the bit there. i think this issue that it is in our mutual interest, talking bout mexican investors restarting the industry, this is a one-off and you will see a lot more of this. i figured what the first bush and ministration where argentina had a ship in the first gulf war. i think el salvador in the iraq war.
>> we have a question from the entle man in the striped shirt. >> thank you. i was wondering along the lines of the recent comments, can you speculate foreign policy in latin america? the event of a change of control of the senate, which is what it would take and there's not going to be any change in the house, are there any possible changes in u.s. oreign policy? > if we had a republican senate it would mean that marco rubio would be one of two candidates to have control over
an important subcommittee on foreign operations. he is one of the two people hat are both from florida. you would have a series of thoughtful people. i think you have a bigger ppetite for more trade deals. adding to republicans are known as a pro-free trade a party. i think if you have a brazilian wehner, you would have the ppetite in the senate to get a hemisphere trade agreement. the president obama would have a legacy project, this could be t. i think you could have an
increased appetite and interest to do something about trying to deal with the challenges in central america similar to the way you have in the republican congress in helping columbia. >> to go with what some of my republican brothers just said, he real issue is going to be immigration reform. i think we have a window because of the presidential election a lot of people are going to be putting pressure on resolving immigration area that is dealing with root causes of why children are coming. that is dealing with the security side of it or being undocumented people in the united states. you mentioned brazil. you mentioned being the president.
the big issue with brazil is a tax treaty. a framework for the u.s. and brazilian business to be able to do business more easily. keystone pipeline in the western hemisphere, depending on something relevant. i think it is important to be realistic. we can speculate as much as we want and we will have our own interests and agenda. the next two years ago in to be -- we used to talk about it when i was of the senate foreign relations committee and it is going to be the silly season. i think we are all interested in latin america. it is important to temper these ambitions with reality. >> i agree with you. over the next two years in a republican senate, he will see very little get done. it is going to be a split congress, even if democrats when the senate. the likelihood of a lot happening is not high. to bring it back, i think this is why we need to work on
diversity at every level. democrats are starting to get that message. they have not released the numbers yet. diversity in staffing and aggression all races is better than i think it is ever been. that starts to translate into there being a bench of people who become campaign managers and then the become state directors and and they are political directors. you will start to see people get more experience. they are going to be making impact in the next one and the one after that. building that diversity is going to make a huge ifference. we've got time for one more uestion. >> we have not talked about drugs.
i think that speaks to how far latin america has come. i think the narrative is changing from those bad, negative things. immigration is still an issue. >> colorado and washington are going to affect the drug legalization conversation. >> final question there in the ack. >> a lot of pressure. >> thank you. since we are talking about the midterms, i hear a lot of optimism and enthusiasm on voter turnout. the statistics don't bear that out. only 7.8 million hispanics will come out. that may wind up hurting democrats. they are upset about the delay in immigration measures.
this is going to wind up hurting democrats. republicans are getting closer to regaining the senate. i wonder if you could elaborate on why it is that hispanics are feeling let down and they are not going to come out and vote considering the potential we have been talking about the sleeping giant for decades and the potential for their political clout. it has not come out yet. i don't suggest -- there are a lot of things i hear from campaigns is how do we motivate hese voters. the affordable care act, obamacare, has lowered the uninsured rate among hispanics from the high 30's to the 20's. all of those people need to be made aware that kind of thing is at stake. the need to understand what is at stake economically and financially.
any to compare with the economic policies mean for that particular community and that district area the challenge for democrats is to connect what difference it could make for those particular voters. immigration is a when. i mentioned it at the beginning. it has been a long hour. i was talking about the fact that the president may have hurt himself with the delay in states like colorado and north carolina where it is within the margin of air and hispanics can make the difference. there is an enthusiasm problem. it starts with reaching out and making people feel like they matter. it is going to have to be done one at a time. >> on that note, it is an opportunity for republicans. it is an opportunity to go from the rhetoric you have seen to action. i think that is something that
republicans will be judged on with this issue. it is an issue of growing nterest in growing importance. i think it is an opportunity. the latino vote is more up for grabs that it has ever been. >> i think the democrats are making a big mistake with not being more aggressive. he had the mark pryor's of the world dominating and affecting national decisions instead of the udall's who have a bigger constituency. the democrats are put them and difficult scenario where they should be able to capitalize on this constituency. it is not 100% sealed. and republicans are missing an opportunity in the lame-duck session. they misread it. let's not deal with immigration because it is a loser.
they should have looked at let's deal with it now so that we don't continue to have been hallenged. the latinos and not going to go away. the dreamers and not go to stop showing up at these events and challenging them on the stump. if they get this out of the way in the lame-duck session, it have to deal with it. they take it off the table so primaries to have the focus on immigration. there are be smart to do that. >> right all the data we will check it is months. >> or in 35 years. >> i think we should offer a route of applause to the panelists. [applause] thank you all for coming in participating. c-span was here. you can relive it. >> thanks.
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