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but i do think during the games they had an opportunity to change a lot of people's opinions and move forward, yet they chose to revert. many people said it was already in the planning, that they knew they were going to do this after the games. i don't know about that. to your question, we can only hope. we have no scientific proof that it is going to help any, but is it worth trying? is it better to just close it off and say, we are not going to deal with these people because they are going to keep going? i don't know. >> [inaudible]
lisa: i think they did. the people that i talked to had broadened their -- the citizens, the individual citizens that took part in the olympic games benefited. i can't say that putin changed. i don't think that's the case. but i think the citizens benefited. >> first, in terms of russia with a country of racism and lgbt issues, we all agree it is not the only one. look at the lgbt writes in qatar. we also need to be careful. a lot of countries getting big sport events are not the ones we consider the best in terms of social or gender issues. i understand the political point, but i think if we fail for russia and ukraine, it is a political failure of the west. trying to solve the issue --
[indiscernible] i think it is very important also not to forget that it is not only giving soft power to putin, it is also giving us soft power. we have to engage with the international community. they will have to change. they will have to allow foreigners to come. it is also a way for us to speak to the russian population beyond just putin. if you look at the sociological survey, you will see the russian population getting tired of the situation in ukraine. people have a lot of concern. this kind of huge media pressure is kind of slowly now diminishing. people are worried.
they have concerns for their economic situations, their well-being. you can find a lot of people in russia who would say yes, we wanted crimea to go back, and we wanted the russian population in ukraine to be secure, because that is the way they would interpret the situation, but the price of this is higher than we imagine. things can change a lot in three years. if you suddenly cut any communication with the russian population, you don't need diplomacy, you just need weapons. i don't think that is the right solution. >> [inaudible] marlene: you don't see for example what this means for the 50,000 volunteers who participated, how that change their lives.
you don't know if that has them opening discussions. you also have long social transformations where you don't see the results right now. maybe the olympic games didn't change anything. does that mean we shouldn't have them and that not having them makes things easier? i don't know. manuel: i would add to this, it is not that long ago that we had those olympics. it is hard to judge the impact of those olympics at this moment. you've seen a lot of events play out, but these events were already taking place prior to doing the olympics. you said 50,000 volunteers. what is the long-term benefit of
that? i think it will be positive. also, what is the solution? take away the world cup? that is not going to do anything. i think it would actually make things worse. judging from what happened at euro 2012 in ukraine, the second-largest football tournament in the world, it has some very similar issues in terms of racism and gender rights. now, take that with russia, and on top of russia having problems with neighbors, russia will get full on media attention for two years. as soon as euro 2016 is over, there will be full media attention on russia. that is going to do a lot more than just taking away the tournament. >> [inaudible] manuel: but it has not been very long, has it? it has been a year. that is not very long in terms of dialogue. >> olympics has not brought any
benefit in terms of opening russia. that was the question. thank you. marlene: that is your own interpretation of our answer. at least two people sitting here are historians by background. managing something that happened fifth in months ago is more complicated than that in terms of how human beings can change in society. i understand it will always be a sensitive issue. do we have other questions? >> to those in attendance and asked questions, excellent. fantastic discussion. let's give a round of applause for our speakers who did a really excellent job. [applause] >> as i mentioned before, we
intend to continue this project with additional discussions, research, and other activities. you can follow along if you want to continue to participate in the discussions. so thank you for your attendance. >> our coverage of presidential candidates the iowa state there continues this week, including wisconsin governor scott walker tomorrow at 11 a.m. eastern. former hewlett-packard ceo carly eastern.t 1 p.m. here's donald trump yesterday before taking some kids on a hill of ride. donald trump: what things are likely to do different?
almost everything, because that would -- that is what has to happen. we are not taking care of the military, not taking care of our events, not taking care of our country, not taking care of our finances. when was the last time you saw this country have a victory? we don't have victories. china just devalued their currency. that means jobs and money coming out of our country. they did the biggest devaluation in two decades. they are killing us. they won't be doing it when i'm watching. do you agree with me? does everybody agree with me? let's give them a helicopter ride. >> you can see more of donald
please be seated. my greating, it is honor to welcome everyone to the embassy of the united states and havana. thank you secretary kerry,, not -- assistant secretary jacobson and all other branch officials as well as members of congress for being here today. i wish to welcome the director general and the official cuban delegation and foreign minister of switzerland and his
delegation to this historic ceremony. i wish to give special recognition to the marine security car -- marine security ,uard detachment of havana 1961. [applause] and marine security guard detachment 2015. [applause] many of you have worked very hard to make stay happened. i thank all of you are coming from near and far.
and how far we have come. short months since our president's announcement in december, the united states and cuba have already established idiomatic relations and an important foundation for the future. i began my own foreign service career in this building when it was called something else. i never imagined i would see our flag raised here 50 years after it was lowered. nation's today represents beginning a new chapter and a key step on the path towards the normalization of relations. [applause] it is a long complex road to travel, but it is the right road. in many ways no one has traveled greater distances to be here today then poet richard longo.
states, to the united richard has written an original poem to mark the special occasion. he is the fifth presidential inaugural poet in u.s. history. president obama has said that his contributions to the field of poetry and the arts have already paid the path forward for future generations of writers. today is about the future. me in welcoming richard. [applause] richard: for the people of both our countries who believe that not even the sea can keep us matters of ther
the seed doesn't matter -- matters of the sea. the seed doesn't matter. we all belong to the sea between us. rich -- is still the same child who listened to hollow shells, sculpted dreams into impossible castles. we have all been lovers holding .ands our footprints like a mirage. vanished in waves that don't know their care -- don't know nor care the country from which they come.
one is the other to the other , to the sea. whether on an island or vast continent, remember our grandfathers. deep into red or brown earth, planting mango trees that outlived them. yearsandmothers counting while dusting photos of their wedding days. dressers.e on our our mothers teaching us how to , howin spanish or english to tie our shoes, how together , ours or bite into a guava fathers warned that a wave of clouds in factories or cutting
lifecane's to earn a new for us. now scoutingd i the same stars above skyscrapers, waiting for time to , when raingin again falls and washes its way through sear or streets back to the . singtter what and some we we have all walked barefoot and shore wesoul on the have offered our sorrows and hopes, our lips anointed by the same for -- the same spray of have memories and regrets like stone in our hand that we just can't toss.
>> thank you richard for such inspirational remarks. it is not my very great honor to introduce the secretary of state of the united states, john kerry. [applause] secretary kerry: please be seated, everybody. thank you so much. i'm so sorry that we are a little bit late today. what a beautiful ride in and how beutiful -- how wonderful to here. i thank you for leaving my future transportation out here. i love it. moguls of the cuban delegation, thank you for your leadership and all your work. excellencies from the diplomatic corps, my colleagues from
,ashington, past and present ambassador de la renta's friends watching around the world. thank you for joining us for this historic moment as we prepare to raise the united states flag here in our embassy in havana. symbolizing the reestablishment of diplomatic relations after 54 years. this is the first time that the united states secretary of state has been to cuba since 1945. [applause] this morning i feel at home here and feel grateful to those two have come to share in the ceremony who are standing outside our facility -- facility.
my friends, we are gathered here today because our leaders, president obama and president castro, made a courageous decision to stop being the prisoners of history and to focus on the opportunities today and tomorrow. this does not mean that we should or will forget the past. how could we, after all? imagesy generations, the are indelible. 1959, fidel castro came to the united states and was greeted by enthusiastic crowds. returning the next year he was embraced by then so be it
premier nikita khrushchev. tragedythe bay of pigs unfolded. president kennedy accepting responsibility. in october, 1962, the missile crisis arose 13 days that pushed us to the very threshold of nuclear war. i was a student then. i can still remember the taught faces of our leaders. thegrim map showing movement of opposing ships. the approaching deadline. that peculiar word. quarantine. we were unsettled and uncertain about the future. we did not know when closing our eyes at night what we would find. environmenten diplomatic ties between washington and this capital city
were strained and stretched thin. then severed. late 1960 the u.s. ambassador left havana. cuba demanded a big cut in the size of our diplomatic mission. president eisenhower then decided that we had no choice but to shut down the embassy. most of the u.s. staff departed quickly. a few stayed behind to hand the keys over to our swiss colleagues. who would serve diligently and honorably as our protecting power for more than 50 years. i just met with the foreign minister and we are grateful to switzerland, always, for their service and help. [applause] among those remaining at the embassy were three marine guards. larry morris, mike east, jim tracy. as they stepped
outside they were confronted by a large crowd standing tween them and the flag. tensions were high. the marines had a mission to accomplish. parted in front of them as they made their way to the flagpole, lowered all glory, and returned it to the building. they had done their jobs and had made a old promise that one day and would return to havana raise the flag again. [applause] at the time, no one could have imagined how distant that they would be. for more than half of a century u.s. cuban relations have been suspended in the amber of cold war politics. a whole generation of americans
and cubans have grown up and rolled -- grown old. the united states has had 10 new presidents. any united germany the berlin wall is a fading memory. free from soviet shackles central europe is again a home to thriving democracies. last week i was in hanoi to mark the normalization of relations between the united states and vietnam. inc. about that. a long and terrible war that inflicted indelible scars on the two and mind followed by decades of mutual healing followed by another two decades of diplomatic and commercial engagement. during this time the anomaly evolved from a country torn apart by violent into a dynamic society with one of the world's fastest-growing economies. , through that time
reconciliation, normalization, cuban-american relations remained locked in the past. meanwhile, new technologies enable people everywhere to benefit from shared projects --oss the last stretches vast stretches of ocean and land. it does not take a gps to realize the mutual road of isolation and estrangement that the united states and cuba were traveling was not the right one. the time has come for us to move in a more promising direction. in the united states that means recognizing that u.s. policy is a vm ville -- ample -- and vil on which the future of cuba will be forged. policies of the past have not led to a democratic transition in cuba. it would be equally unrealistic to expect a normalizing to have
in the short-term transformational impact. cuba's future is for cuba to shape. the responsibility for the nature and quality of governance and accountability rest is as it should not with any outside entity but solely within the citizens of this country. but the leaders in havana and the cuban people should also willthat the united states always remain a champion of democratic principles and reforms. like many other governments inside and outside this hemisphere, we will continue to urge the cuban government to fulfill its obligations under the u.n. obligations shared by every other country in the americas. thatd, we remain convinced the people of cuba would be best genuine democracy,
where people are free to express their ideas, practice their faith with a commitment to social justice and realize that institutions there are answerable to those that they serve and civil societies have been allowed to flourish. let me be clear, the establishment of normal diplomatic relations is not something that one government does as a favor to another. it is something that two countries do together when the citizens of both will benefit. case the reopening of our embassies is important on two levels. people to people and government to government. first, we believe it's helpful for the people of our nation's to learn more about each other. to meet each other. that is why we are encouraged to travel from the united states to cuba and it has increased by 35% in january and is continuing to
go up. andre encouraged that more more u.s. companies are exploring commercial ventures that would create opportunities for their own rising number of entrepreneurs. we are encouraged that u.s. firms are interested in helping cuba expand its telecommunications and internet links and that the government here recently pledged to create dozens of new and more affordable wi-fi hotspots. we also want to ignore knowledge the special role that the cuban-american community is playing in establishing a new relationship between our countries. in fact we have with us this morning representatives from that community, some of whom were born here, others who were born in the united states. with their strong ties to culture and family they can contribute much to the spirit of bilateral cooperation in progress that we are seeking to create. just as they have contributed much to their communities in
their adopted land. the restoration of diplomatic ties will make it easier for our government has to engage. we are after all neighbors and neighbors will always have much to discuss in such areas as civil aviation, migration policy, disaster prepare it this , protecting marine environment, global climate change and other more complex issues. having normal relations makes it easier for us to talk. talk can deepen understanding, even when we know full well that we will not be i to eye on everything. we are all aware that not with sending the president's new policy, the overall u.s. embargo on trade with you but remains in and can only be lifted by congressional action. a step that we strongly favor. [applause]
for now the president has taken steps to ease restrictions on , on exports and imports to help private entrepreneurs. on telecommunications and family travel. but we want to go further. the goal of these changes is to help cubans connect to the world and improve their lives. just as we are doing our part, we urge the cuban government that it may be less difficult for their citizens to access information online and engage in trade. the embargo has also been something of a two way street. both sides need to remove restrictions that have been holding cubans back. before closing i want to sincerely thank leaders who havet the americas long urged the united states and
cuba to restore normal ties. i think the holy father, pope francis, and the vatican for supporting the start of a new chapter in relations between our countries. it is not accidental that the holy father will come here and then to the united states at this moment. i applaud president obama and president castro both for having the courage to bring us together in the face of considerable opposition. i am grateful to have assisted the secretary of state and her team through our counterparts in the cuban foreign ministry, to our chief and his extraordinary staff for all of the hard work that has led up to this day. i will just say to our wonderful embassy staff -- if you think you have been busy this past month, hold onto your seatbelt. [laughter]
above all, above all i want to pay tribute to the people of cuba and to the cuban-american community in the united states. it was once said that everything said -- iss men is a a sin against humanity. clearly the events of the past, the harsh words, the provocative , theetaliatory actions human tragedies, they have all been a source of deep division that has diminished our common humanity. there have been too many days of sacrifice and sorrow. too many decades of suspicion and fear. that is why i am heartened by those on both sides of the streets, who out of family ties or simple desire wants to replace anger with something more productive, having endorsed this search for better path.
we have moved down that path without any illusions about how difficult it may be, but we are each confident in the contacts that we have made and pleased with the friendships that we have begun to ford -- to forge. that these two people more no longer enemies or rivals are no neighbors and it our flags,unfurl raise them up and let the world know that we wish each other well. --[speaking spanish]
it is with that mission in mind that i turned to jim, larry, mike. 54 years ago you gentlemen promised to return to havana and toys flag over the united states embassy that you lowered on that january day long ago. today i invite you on the behalf of the president and the american people to fulfill that pledge by presenting the stars and to be raised by members of our current military detachment. larry, jim, mike, this is your cue to deliver on words that would make any diplomat route. just as they would any member of the united states marine corps. a promise made, a promise cap. thank you. [applause] >> ladies and gentlemen, please
york governor george pataki's live at 5:30 p.m. eastern. it's all about iowa this week, but the first in the nation primary is held in new hampshire. george pataki has been a 61 and newrking to nec hampshire primary tracker. marco rubio has a 19. there in his west for the 26 the republican presidential nomination. this week he spoke about foreign policy and national security in new york city.
>> make sure your phones are turned off or muted so we can get our event started. the foreign-policy initiative was established in 2009 as a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization committed to educating policymakers, opinion leaders, and the public about the importance of continued american engagement and leadership in world affairs. the importance of standing up for democratic allies, standing up against world regimes that threaten them. from owning human rights for those oppressed by their government, and maintaining a strong defense and open economy. it's an honor to be joined this morning by senator rubio for a conversation about these ideas and how to effectively promote them.
before we get started, i want to take a moment and thank the many members of our leadership network. these are the alumni. [applause] these are the alumni from our programs in washington dc and new york. i invite you to chat with me and members of that network or any member of our staff. on october 1, we have a forum where we will be continuing this kind of conversation with other national security leaders. senator marco rubio is well known to this audience. elected in 2010 to represent the state of florida in the u.s. senate, his duties in that body include service on the senate committee on foreign relations and the select committee on intelligence. he is chairman of the subcommittee of the western hemisphere foreign relations committee. before his election to the senate, he served the state of florida and from 2005 to 2009 was the speaker of that body. after his remarks, he will be joined on stage by kathleen mcfarland. she will hold a conversation
with the senator before moderating your questions for him. you should find on your tables index cards and pens. we will ask as we look forward to that portion of the conversation that you write any questions you may have on those cards. if you could put a one word or two word topic at the top to get them sorted. ms. mcfarland is fox news national security analyst. [applause] she is also the anchor of death con three on foxnews.com. -- defcon 3 she was awarded the defense department's highest award for her service in the reagan administration. i thank her for serving as our moderator today and ask all of you to please join me in welcoming senator rubio. [applause] mr. rubio: thank you very much. ms. mcfarland is fox news national security analyst. [applause] she is also the anchor of death con three on foxnews.com. -- defcon 3 she was awarded the defense department's highest award for her service in the reagan
administration. i thank her for serving as our moderator today and ask all of you to please join me in welcoming senator rubio. [applause] mr. rubio: thank you very much. i am honored to be here at the foreign-policy initiative again. thank you very much for this opportunity. as we gather here today, there are two historic event in progress. the first is the arrival of john kerry in cuba. the second is president obama's continued campaign to secure congressional approval for his deal with iran. numerous crises around the globe will require the attention of america's next president, i would like to focus my remarks today on these two dangerous developments with iran and cuba, because i believe they represent the convergence of nearly every
flawed strategic moral that hazard and president obama's foreign policy and as such, are emblematic of sony crises around the world during his time in office. these deals demonstrate how this administration has failed to anticipate and pending crises, ignore the realities of the globalized economy, and stopped to make america liked rather than respected. the way it has placed politics before policy and adversaries before allies and political legacy before leadership. the way it has confused weakness for restraint, concessions for compromise, and most simply of all, wrong for right. [applause] to fully understand what we are doing with -- dealing with, we have to understand who we are dealing with. in iran, we are facing a radical shiite cleric who wish to one day unite the world under islam.
their version of islam. and believe it will only happen after a cataclysmic showdown with the west. leaders who have been directly responsible for the deaths of hundreds of americans -- who harbor fugitives from american justice, and who stand in opposition to nearly every value our nation holds dear. by violating the basic human rights of their own people, by preventing democratic elections, and by depriving their nation's economy of opportunity. the world has missed having an american president who speaks honestly about the world in which we live. in the eyes of barack obama and hillary clinton, -- they are silent about the fact
that minor offenses in iran and cuba are punishable by indefinite detention, torture, or even death, and these offenses also include nothing more than speaking out with the wrong political opinion. instead of focusing his criticism on these illegitimate governments, the president has chosen to attack opponents of his policies here at home, going so far as to demonize critics of the iran policy as "lobbyists with money and warmongers."
he has criticized those of -- opposed to his cuba policy as "tradition or's -- this is derogatory rhetoric and it should have no place in our democracy, especially from our president. [applause] centuries of global affairs tell us that the best way to affect an outcome with volatile leaders is through strength and for example. while the worst is the weakness and concession. yet, weakness and concession are the preferred tools of this administration. president obama has not only permitted iran to retain its entire existing nuclear infrastructure, he has also endorsed the construction of a full-scale industrial sized nuclear program within 15 years. he has conceded a vast enrichment capacity, preserved iran's fortified underground facilities, and failed to secure anytime, anywhere inspection.
he has virtually guaranteed iran becomes a regional power with the ability to build long-range missiles capable of hitting the united states homeland. on top of all of this, he wants to hand iran and $100 billion in sanctions relief which will be used in part to fund hamas and hezbollah, promote instability in bahrain and yemen, and prop up syria. he has given all of this away without any commitment that iran will end its support for terrorism, except israel's right to exist or return a single american hostage. in short, the deal with iran isn't a deal at all. it is a string of concessions to a foreign adversary of the united states. the negotiations with cuba have proven equally one-sided. president obama has rewarded the castro regime for its oppressive tactics and its persistent
opposition to american interests. he has unilaterally given up on a half-century worth of policy towards the castro regime that was agreed upon by presidents of both parties. he has ensured the regime will receive international legitimacy and a substantial economic boost to benefit its repression of the cuban people, which has only increased since the new policy was announced. as a symbol of just how backwards this policy has turned out to be, not a single cuban dissident has been invited to today's official flag raising ceremony at the new u.s. embassy in havana. cuban dissidents have fought for decades for the very democratic principles president obama claims to be advancing through these concessions. their exclusion from this event has in short -- ensured it will be little more than a propaganda rally for the castro regime. i will make this pledge here now. as president, as a symbol of our
solidarity between my administration and those who strive for freedom around the world, i will invite cuban dissidents, iranian dissidents, chinese dissidents, and freedom fighters from all around the world to be honored guest at my inauguration. [applause] our current president has made no such effort to stand on the side of freedom. he has been quick to deal with the oppressors, but slow to deal with the oppressed. and his excuses are paper thin. he has made the argument that if the embargo has worked for 50 years, why shouldn't we try something new? my question is, why haven't he made a similar argument for the castro regime? for over 50 years, they have tried to tear communism and it
has worked either. the cuban people have a standard of living well below that of virtually every other nation in the hemisphere. he has also made the claim that the people of cuba do not have access to 21st century technology because of the u.s. embargo. this is patently false. they don't have access because the castro regime has made this technology illegal. the notion that the cuban people will be allowed freedom of speech and freedom of information now that president obama has made concessions to the very government denying them these rights is complete fiction. the concessions to iran and cuba
both endanger our nation. [applause] here is how. the deal with cuba threatens america's moral standing in our hemisphere and around the world. it brings legitimacy to a state-sponsored terror and further empowers an ally of china and russia that sits just 90 miles from our shores here it if the effort to stop the iran deal in the senate fails, the threat posed will truly be historic. a nuclear arms race will likely overtake the middle east, and the national security states of the election before us will become higher than any of the action -- election since the end of the cold war. it is important to note that hillary clinton not only supports these two deals, but chino brags about her instrumental role in bringing them to fruition. the fact of the matter is, hillary clinton will not overturn these deals as president. i will. [applause] beginning on day one, i will undertake a three-part plan to roll back president obama's deal with iran and repair the damage done to america's ending in the middle east. first, i will quickly reimpose sanctions on iran.
i will give them a choice, either you have an economy, or you have a nuclear enrichment program, but you cannot have both. i will also ask congress to pass new measures that target human rights abusers and iran's leaders involved in financing and overseeing iran's sponsorship of terrorism. [applause] second, i will and sure our forces in the middle east have position to signal readiness. this will be bolstered by my administration's efforts to rebuild our military by ending the sequestration once and for all. [applause] third, after imposing crippling sanctions on iran, -- some would say, there will be no room for negotiation. but history proves otherwise. iran may not return to the table immediately, but it will return. when its national interests require it to do so.
i will also undertake an equally bold plan to go back president obama's concessions to the castro regime. first, -- thank you very much. first, on day one, i will give the castro's a choice. either continue repressing her people and lose the did that -- the deck -- the democratic stipulations -- either continue repressing your people and lose the democratic stipulations -- i will do everything in our power to provide support both direct and moral to cuba's pro-democracy movement, provide access to uncensored information for the people, and deprive the castro regime of the funding for its suppressed security state. [applause] these are the actions required to restore the safety and security president obama has
cost us through his diplomacy of dictators. when it comes to the challenges posed by iran and cuba, our task is straightforward. we must prevent iran from gaining a nuclear weapon, and we must guarantee that the united states stands on the side of the cuban people, not the side of their oppressors. but we also know that the straightforward, is not based in for easy. confronting these challenges and the many challenges we face around the world will require what has always been required. leadership. principal leadership. based on strategy and security, not politics or legacy. that is what i intend to offer our nation and the world in the years ahead. thank you for having me today and i look forward to answering your questions. [applause] >> i am the mother and grandmother of five. i will give senator rubio his water. thank you.
now the hard part. you have talked very eloquently about what you would do now. let's fast-forward to win you are president, if you become president, we have already established relations with the american flag flying over havana and you have said you would roll back the relationship. how realistic is that? 18 months from now, the u.s. will have business interest, contracts, major american companies that will have already started building hotels and tourist trade and investments. how do you undo all that? >> i don't think that is what's going to happen. there is no such thing as the cuban economy. when we talk about the economy, we talk about our own. there is the gaesa. it is run by the cuban military. telecommunications, rent cars, gas stations. every major industry is owned or operated by a company held within this larger company. when you open up to the cuban economy, you open up to this holding company run by raul castro's son-in-law. so what american companies will find it cuba, they will find a government that says we will let you fly a flag in a hotel under your name but it belongs to us. the workers work for us and you have no real ownership stake other than 20%. and there are no contract second -- contract rights. i don't think it will be as quick as people think. the initial bump his travel and
remittances. some minor investments but not major investments. i am in favor of any policy that brings about change in cuba. i will tell you today that what the president had done had been in exchange for concrete promises by the cuban government. we will begin to do this and that. i would be uncomfortable with elements of the deal but it would be harder to argue against. understand this arrangement. we are going to do all these things with cuba. we will open up all these things we're willing to do with cuba. cuba says, thank you very much. we still want you to pay reparations and we're not going to change a single thing. they have said that to their own people. they have rounded up over 90 dissidents, some of them wearing barack obama masks. if they want to continue down this path, there had better be some action on the part of the cuban government. or will we not -- or we will not have an american flag flying at that embassy. >> i don't think that is what's going to happen. there is no such thing as the cuban economy. when we talk about the economy, we talk about our own.
there is the gaesa. it is run by the cuban military. telecommunications, rent cars, gas stations. every major industry is owned or operated by a company held within this larger company. when you open up to the cuban economy, you open up to this holding company run by raul castro's son-in-law. so what american companies will find it cuba, they will find a government that says we will let you fly a flag in a hotel under your name but it belongs to us. the workers work for us and you have no real ownership stake other than 20%. and there are no contract second -- contract rights. i don't think it will be as quick as people think. the initial bump his travel and remittances. some minor investments but not major investments.
i am in favor of any policy that brings about change in cuba. i will tell you today that what the president had done had been in exchange for concrete promises by the cuban government. we will begin to do this and that. i would be uncomfortable with elements of the deal but it would be harder to argue against. understand this arrangement. we are going to do all these things with cuba. we will open up all these things we're willing to do with cuba. cuba says, thank you very much. we still want you to pay reparations and we're not going to change a single thing. they have said that to their own people. they have rounded up over 90 dissidents, some of them wearing barack obama masks. if they want to continue down this path, there had better be some action on the part of the cuban government. or will we not -- or we will not have an american flag flying at
that embassy. now we have given them the diplomatic recognition. and it is an illegitimate government. >> the only time we have ever come close to having a nuclear war was over the cuban missile crisis and the soviet union trying to put nuclear missiles in cuba. how are you going to prevent the chinese that are interested in the region, and the russians with the castro government and using those ports where they would put their own military naval vessels. >> we would not allow that. >> even secretary kerry said the monroe doctrine is dead. rubio: secretary kerry will not be my secretary of state. so -- [applause]
that is not going to happen. first of all, the threat posed, they particularly target the southern command. also central command and nasa, all in florida. the harbor fugitives of american justice. there are also two cuban generals, they were indicted for the murder of unarmed civilian americans. this was over international airspace. it happened in 1996. these are the sort of things that is the threat they cuba -- threat cuba poses. they were caught last year helping north korea. these are the kinds of threats that cuba legitimately basis. not unless they ramp up spending today have the capability to be threatening or target is. >> for the final question, talk about, you said that he would support a pro-democracy movement. i assume that means covert
activities. rubio: i would were quickly to -- work quickly to transition tv from off of cuban broadcasting. i want it to become an access provider. for example, they're not exist the capability of providing through satellite access to the internet. they have had unfettered access to the internet. it would allow them to join social media and download candy crash, but it would also let them receive news from around the world. the blackout that exists is extraordinary. they will have no idea that this happened here today. they do not know about the debate in america. they have no idea. they don't get cnn or fox news or msnbc. well -- their loss, right? they also don't get -- all of the information that they get is from cuban government sources. breaking the news blockade will be a big part of that government transition. we have democracy programs now. we will fund those and try to give them a stronger standing. and show that we are firmly on the side of those looking for positive change. you are not just -- you are looking to empower the next generation of cuban leadership. people who are capable of functioning in a democratic society when that day comes. >> let's move to iran. let's assume, as you have predicted, that the print -- the president vetoes the iran deal and it is not overridden.
they don't get cnn or fox news or msnbc. well -- their loss, right? they also don't get -- all of the information that they get is from cuban government sources. breaking the news blockade will be a big part of that government transition. we have democracy programs now. we will fund those and try to give them a stronger standing. and show that we are firmly on the side of those looking for positive change. you are not just -- you are
looking to empower the next generation of cuban leadership. people who are capable of functioning in a democratic society when that day comes. >> let's move to iran. let's assume, as you have predicted, that the print -- the president vetoes the iran deal and it is not overridden. so that the president iran deal goes through. you said that when you become president you would unwind a lot about. the other countries and the world, those that are on the iran deal, they see an economic opportunity that they will not walk away from. europeans want to sell them cars, how effective would u.s. sanctions be ?they don't care -- sanctions be? well, let's discount the russians. they have never cooperated to begin with. anything we are for, vladimir
putin has decided he is against. the chinese have their own agenda. they have never been a critical linchpin of our efforts. they don't realize they need to be. the other countries, when our sanctions are reimposed, the banking sector in germany. they have access to the u.s. economy through which 50% of global capital flows happen. they can choose to have access to the iranian economy. i think that they would choose the u.s. economy. given a choice, these companies are going to choose the american economy. the second point i want to make, we do not have to think hard to imagine what is going to be in place for about 10 years. look at north korea today. north korea today possesses multiple nuclear warheads. also long-range rockets. the good news is, they are not very good at aiming.
we don't know if they will hit san francisco or san diego. the bad news is they can hit something. what does that mean? we don't have an incredible threat of force against their nuclear program. the cost of it will be an attack on seoul, tokyo, guam, hawaii. that is where we will be with iran and 10 years. it will not have a credible force against them, because they
would have expanded capabilities. we will also know that any sort of military action against them would result in an attack on paris, london, washington, new york. that is where i know we will be in 10 years because of this deal. >> what is iran develops a nuclear state in 1.5 years? >> again, that's why it's important. the combination of two things. crippling sanctions on their economy and on individuals which is what force them to the negotiating table to begin with. despite the fact that this administration fought against those sanctions. now they say, we have put the sanctions in place and forced iran to the table. the obama administration argued against the sanctions, using the
same argument that they use now. basically, as long as you are enriching uranium, we will hit your facilities with a credible threat of military force. it is the only thing that reigns in the protest. -- the program. >> when you say that the russians and chinese have never been with us, howdy prevent the russians and chinese from establishing a closer relationship with iran, especially if we are not in the deal? >> we can't prevent them from pursuing this route. it is an eye-opener. that actually answers my question. we put a lot of stake in the security council, of which both of these countries have a veto power in. we are putting faith in the enforcement of this mechanism. two of the main countries involved have this sort of relationship that you outlined. i still think and i believe that ultimately, the economy has been impacted by u.s. sanctions. you would have too sanctioned countries interacting with one another. neither one having access to the modern developments in economy in the world. it will not be able to really do any commerce. they will not be able to fund operations that they are seeking to fund. >> i want to turn to isis. you talk about a joint air force.
>> a joint sunni air force. >> but it has not materialized. >> know it hasn't. i think that there is a willingness for it. it requires american leadership to convene it. elements would be nationstates like egypt and jordan and many of the gulf kingdoms. saudi arabia. it would involve empowering local forces in iraq. the sunni tribes involves kurds as well. think it also involves the christian community, asking for them to defend themselves from these attacks may have experienced. it is accommodation of all these years. it would require u.s. leadership to bring it together. it will require u.s. involvement.
technical, logistical, intelligent support. embedding special operations forces to help with training. and with strategic advice. ultimately, this is not just because we don't want to be in the fight directly but i believe the fastest and most endearing -- enduring way to defeat this movement is for sunnis themselves to defeat it. it has to happen that way. otherwise, the elements that made it possible are still in place. the resentment between sunnis and shiites. it's one of the reasons why isis was greeted as the liberator initially. when they reentered iraq, they were viewed as liberators. that was the view of many in the sunni community. they don't think that way anymore. they now see the reality of this group. it is critical they play a linchpin role in defeating this radical sunni movement. >> so you would not have cooperation with the shiite militias?
rubio: they are basically extensions of the iranian government. they are nothing -- they are part of this web of surrogates used by iran to further their influence in the world. they are involved not for the purposes of defeating isis but for decreasing the influence and leverage on iraq. they want to become the dominant power. and the shiite militias are part of that effort. >> one of the audience questions is, you previewed it, the middle east christians. the obama administration seems to not put that front and center. how would you change this? rubio: i think it is critical to talk about it. not enough has been said about groups like this and what is happening. this was the ritual slaughter of thousands of people of any other denomination and i think there would be an outrage people driven from ancestral homelands, there are not masses being celebrated. were christian services on sunday. it is important these communities be empowered. they need assistance in the short term. they are displaced in many places.
i also believe that they need the ability to defend themselves. these communities will argue that we have no capability of defending ourselves. we are at the mercy of kurds and the sunni tribes. we count on others to provide for our defense. the iraqi government is not a huge fan of this notion, arming them. in the case of christians, they deserve the right to self-defense. [applause] i believe that is the key part of it. ultimately i think that they deserve the right to return to historic cities that hosted them for thousands of years. it should be part of any effort to ensure that any successor government in iraq is one of horseback, one that respects christians and kurds and those that live side in some level of -- side-by-side in some level of unity government. it has to be part of the long-term strategic lands. -- plans. we will be right back in three or four years. >> you talked about iran having nuclear weapons and north korea. it is the notion of nuclear proliferation. if iran is a threat, other countries have said that they will, too. what do you do as president when you are faced with a middle east
where a number of countries are where iran is, on the threshold of a nuclear state. rubio: you prevent iran from having it and then you face a cascade. put yourself in the position of the saudis. i have had quarrels with many in the saudi government, domestically and around the world. but put yourself in their position. they view themselves of allies of the united dates and as a strategic ally of the united states. they view themselves as a nation in conflict with the ambitions of a persian shia government in tehran that wants to become the regional power. they see themselves being encircled with activities in yemen. and with with the bahrain. they turned to the u.s. and the u.s. is cutting a deal with saudi arabia's rival in the region. it ensures they will have an industrial capacity nuclear program. it will continue to develop long-range rockets. they view themselves as a nation in conflict with the ambitions of a persian shia government in tehran that wants to become the regional power.
they see themselves being encircled with activities in yemen. and with with the bahrain. they turned to the u.s. and the u.s. is cutting a deal with saudi arabia's rival in the region. it ensures they will have an industrial capacity nuclear program. it will continue to develop long-range rockets. the saudis are saying, i know that we live in this neighborhood, we know what these guys are going to do eventually. they will break out the weapons. and they say, i promise you, if there is a shia bomb, there will be a sunni bomb. saudi arabia has already taken steps or will soon begin to take steps to match anything iran has. in essence, i am confident, in 15 years, iran possesses a nuclear weapons capability, they will not be alone in the region. at least saudi arabia will have the same capability. and you will have a situation like what you see today between india and pakistan but in a much more unstable part of the world where you can have three or four nuclear armed nations. this is the most unstable region
on the planet. >> one of the first things you would do is increase defense spending. how would you deal with missile-defense? rubio: it is a critical component because one of the technologies to be able to access is intercontinental missiles. although the designs are widely available. north korea basically has no economy. if you want to do it, even a poor country can. it is a nation governed by a criminal syndicate and is capable of producing nuclear weapons. missiles are even easier to acquire. and nations like north korea are proliferating that technology. you could easily foresee a situation in the next 10-15 years, where 12 or 15 countries could produce intercontinental capabilities or other potential threats. missile-defense becomes a
critical part of our notion. both in europe, but also in the east and west coast of the united states. it requires investment. the gates commission that looked at all of this and said the baseline funding anticipated all of these threats. that is why i believe we must return to the baseline number. the number one obligation of the federal government is to provide for national security. there are a lot of other things and that the national government wants to do -- [applause] there are lots of other things the federal government wants to do or has decided to do but national security is the one thing the federal government must do. so my view of budgeting is this, before you pay for anything else, fully fund the defense and pay for everything else with the money that remains. we are treating it the same as every other program. and it is not. >> israel, longtime u.s. ally and a more dangerous neighborhood.
there is has the law -- hezbollah -- hamas, hezbollah, and radical extremists. how would you repair relations with israel? rubio: sinai, they are using libya as a base of operations. i predict eventually they will target europe. from the libyan port city, they are just across the mediterranean right into europe. it is a great transit point for that sort of activity. by the way, don't take your eyes off of isis in afghanistan. isis is beginning to fill that void. the question of israel, i think that this is the most significant erosion we have seen since the founding of the jewish state. what does israel ask of the u.s.? it hasn't asked for soldiers or for operations in their place.
they have asked that we use our veto power at the security council to prevent international sanctions for actions against israel. the second thing that they have asked, if they run out of weapons, bullets, or rockets. that we help supply them. for the first time in a long time, there are significant doubts on both of these things. the obama administration has telegraphed a threat. or the condemnation of israel. they are intimating that if israel does anything against iran now, they will be an international pariah. and the u.s. won't be there to support them. and we saw a year and a half ago, the administration hesitated for a significant time >> and we are going to take you live now to the iowa state there would then carson. >> this is a state fair.
this is amazing. absolutely amazing. i want to thank the people of iowa who have been supporting me and helping the rest of the nation realize that we we shouldn't let the professional class pick our president. int a critical land we live here. a lot of people like to complain thingsmerica and the bad we have done and the bad people who are here. it, you stop to think about we have a lot of people trying to get in here. i don't see anybody trying to escape. it certainly was a great place of dreams for me. a a youngster i wanted to be doctor, skip right over policemen and firemen and went right to doctor. i loved everything that had to