tv Republican Presidential Candidates Debate CSPAN February 7, 2016 3:00pm-6:01pm EST
come out on the stage. he is standing there as well. [applause] david: and lastly, we welcome back to the debate stage, donald trump. mr. christie: can i introduce them? david: yes, it is so noisy in here. i will introduce them. -- him. john kasich. [applause] the applause here is so loud. thank you for being here, gentlemen, just a few days before the people of new hampshire make their decision.
the rules are simple. there will be 60 seconds to answer and if another candidate is mentioned in that answer, that candidate will have another 30 seconds to respond. there are green, yellow, and red seets where a candidate can when their time is up and they will also hear this sound -- [tone] david: we are going to tackle issues considering isis, homeland security, and demented policies, and who considers themselves the best to step in on day one and who would have the best temperament as commander-in-chief. mr. trump, or christie said it this week, "i don't know who would become trouble with someone who behaves this way with their finger on the button, and many people would say that is not the temperament of a leader to keep the people safe."
i want to hear from you what you do have the temperament to be the commander in chief. mr. trump: i think i have the am a ceo ofment, i a major corporation, i employ thousands and thousands of people, and no matter how you cut it, when i came out, i hit immigration, i hit it very hard. i talked about illegal immigration. say, well, he is right, we have to go to him. i talked about muslims, we have a problem. nobody else wanted to mention the problem. we have to have a temporary something because there is something going on that is not good. i am really person appear when the war in iraq -- i was the one who said, don't go, don't do it, you are going to destabilize the middle east. i am not the person appear with
the trigger. i will build the military stronger, bigger, that are than anybody up here, and nobody is going to mess with us, i can tell you. [applause] you did sayenator, this week that that is not the to permit a leader who could keep this country safe. why not? mr. cruz: the assumption that voters are making is that they are looking to our experience, they are looking to our knowledge, they are looking towards our temperament and judgment. they are looking towards our clarity of vision and strength of resolve. the world is getting much more dangerous. we have had seven years with barack obama in office as the commander in chief. he is not even trying to technology the enemy we are facing. this is a president who in the wake of terrorist and the wake of san bernardino will not even use the words radical islamic terrorism much less focus on
defeating the enemy. i believe we could have anybody on this stage be a much better commander in chief than hillary clinton or pretty sanders. the people here are making an assessment for each of us as to ourare better to rebuild navy, and our air force, our army, our marines, and to make sure that we keep america safe. cruz, do you stand by what mr. trump said? to gouz: they are going to each of us who is a levelheaded, who has clear vision, who has judgment, who can confront our enemies and who can can want the enemies we face in this country and who can have the judgment went to engage and when not to engage. both are incredibly important for a commander in chief, knowing how to go after our enemy. in the case of iran, for example, who had the cle
thece and resolve against ayatollah to keep america safe against terror? you would like to respond, mr. trump? mr. trump: if you notice, he didn't answer your question. [applause] mr. trump: ok. that is what is going to happen with our enemies and the people we compete against. we are going to win with trump. we are going to win. we are going to win with pump. -- with trump. we're not going to back down. that is what i like. ask about awant to headline that was back in the papers this morning. thecarson, on the day of iowa caucuses, the ted cruz campaign sent out mailers and
phone calls saying, "mr. carson will be suspending his campaign. please inform any caucus-goers of this news." still we all see, you are standing here tonight. your campaign said, "this kind of deceitful behavior is why americans don't trust politicians. this is representative of d.c. values." what kind of action do you think mr. cruz should have taken? you know, i think yackley should've dropped out. [laughter] but you know, today is the 105th anniversary, i mean, birthday, of ronald reagan. so i'm not going to use this opportunity to savage the reputation of mr. ted cruz. [applause] mr. carson: but i will say that
i was very disappointed that members of his team thought so little of me that they thought that after having hundreds, if not thousands of volunteers, and college students, who sacrificed their time and were dedicated to the cause, one even died, to think that i would just walk away 10 minutes before the caucus and say, forget about you guys, i mean, who thinks something like that? i don't think anybody on this stage would do something like that and to assume someone would, what does that tell you? happen,tunately, it did it gives us a very good example of certain types of washington ethics. ,ashington ethics recently says if it is legal, you do what you need to do in order to win.
that is not my ethics. my ethics is, you do what is right. --id: senator cruz [applause] david: dr. carson, thank you. you said that dr. carson and his wife have become friends of yours. spend time toyou check with the campaign before sending out those messages? ben is a good and honorable man and ben and candy have been honorable friends. when this transpired, i apologized to him then and i do now, ben, i'm sorry. let me tell you about the fact that i know. was notrted that ben going from iowa to new hampshire to south carolina, rather he was "taking a break from campaigning." they reported that from
television, cnn's political , jake tapper and wolf blitzer, and they said it was "highly unusual and highly controversial." at the time i was at the caucuses getting ready to speak , just like ben was. a couple of hours later, i was told that ben was unhappy. i didn't reach him that evening and i reached him the next day and apologized. [tone] said would i of letters in public? and i said, yes i would. cnn didn't correct that, so that is what cnn was reporting. subsequent to that initial report, his campaign put out a
statement that said he was not suspending his campaign. i wish that our campaign staff had forwarded that statement. they were unaware of it. i wish they had, that is why i apologize. great, in: this is what you to all mention me when you say something. [laughter] [applause] mr. carson: in fact, the timeline indicates the initial tweet from cnn was followed by another one within one minute that clarified that i was not dropping out, so what happened to that one, it is unclear, but the bottom line is, we can see what happened. everybody can see what happened. you can make your own judgments. david: thank you, doctor. [applause] rubio, i want to
ask you questions about being a first-term senator. governor christie is warning voters here in new hampshire to be careful with first-term senator's like with barack obama. like barack obama. you listed your compliments at s senator. what iron couple judgment that makes you ready to be president of the united states? mr. rubio: let me just say that representing florida from eminent domain abuse, to other issues, i am proud of my service in florida and the florida legislature. if the presidency becomes about people have been in the congress or the senate longus, we should ound joe biden. he has thousands of bills and i don't think anyone believes that joe biden should be president of united states.
barack obama knows exactly what he is doing. he is taking a systematic effort to make america more like the rest of the world. that is why he passed obamacare and systems like the stimulus and dodd frank. ofn i become president america, we are going to embrace everything that makes us the greatest country in the world, and lead our children with the best that anyone has the world. [applause] david: senator rubio, thank you. governor christie, you said, fullyonce, shame on you, twice, shame on me for electing a first-term senator. you have a response? mr. christie: sure, every theyng they wake up, wonder what kind of speech they can get or what kind of bill they can drop. i have to worry about the kind to deal with have
for the people who elected me. , you shouldn't compare yourself to joe biden. in aave not been involved consequential decision where you had to be held accountable. you just simply have it. and the fact is -- [applause] mr. christie: the fact is when you talk about the sanctions act, you weren't even there to vote for it. that is not leadership. that is truancy. [applause] mr. christie: the fact is, what we need to do is not to make the same mistake we made years ago, the fact is, it it does matter and we do have to keep citizens accountable. when the problems come in from the people that you serve, i like marco rubio, he is a smart person and a good guy, but he simply does not have the experience to be president of the united states and make these decisions. we have watch this happen, everybody.
the people of new hampshire are smart. do not make the same mistakes again. [applause] mr. rubio: i think the experience is not just what you did but how it works out. under chris christie, new jersey has been downgraded nine times with its credit rating. we shouldn't have to elect somebody with experience to has destroyed the credit rating with the state. but let's go back to the fact that barack obama is supposed to not know what he is doing. knows exactly what he is doing. he is try to make the united states just like the rest of the world. if i become president, this will was again become the single greatest nation in the rest of the world. david: senator rubio, thank you. mr. christie: hold on, i want to mention this. he directly mention me and my record there, so i get a chance to respond. that is what washington, d.c.
does. the drive by shot at the memorized 25 the seconds speech, that is exactly what he is doing. [applause] marco, marco, the thing is this permit when you are president of the united states, when you are a governor of the state, that 32nd speech were you talk about how america is great at the end, it doesn't solve one problem for one person. they expected to plow the snow. they can do to get the schools and when the worst natural disaster hits your stay in history, you have to get things done. none of that happens on the floor of united states senate. it is a fine job and i am proud of you, but none of that prepares you for being president of the united states. [applause] chris, your stay got hit by massive snowstorms come you didn't want to go back. they had to shame you from going back. .
[boos] mr. rubio: here is the bottom line, the notion that barack obama doesn't know what he is doing -- mr. christie: there it is. there it is everybody. mr. rubio: i think this notion is an important point. we have to understand what we are going through here. we are not facing a president who doesn't know what he is doing. he knows what he is doing. that is why he has done the things he does. that is why we had a president who passed obamacare and the stimulus and all of the damage he has done to america is deliberate. this is a president who is trying to redefine this country. this affects our identity as a nation and a people. this election is not about the past. this is about what kind of country this is going to be in the 21st century and if we elect someone like barack obama, a hillary clinton or a bernie sanders or anyone like this, our children are going to be the first americans who will inherit a diminished sense of country. [tone] mr. christie: you know what the
shame is? shame somebody for showing a backup to work when you have never been response will for any of that in your entire life. [applause] mr. christie: and the fact is, i went back and got things done and the latest second, is that one of the skills you get as a esp also?tes senator, [laughter] mr. christie: everyone is good go back. mr. rubio: when he decided to go back, he criticized the young lady, and -- [tone] mr. christie: it gets very unruly here. david: thank you, senator. mr. rubio: my talking point -- david: governor bush, i will mention your name season come in on this. [laughter] david: i want to bring you a non-this because you have made this central to your campaign in new hampshire in the last four days. you said to senator rubio, he was ready to be vice president
and you spoke of his experience as well and you spoke of his order to to be a president, that just this week, you said that marco rubio accomplish "nothing in the u.s. senate." first of all, he said the exact same thing about me, about mitt romney, about marco rubio, and you could pick somebody else. so let's move on to the 2016 race. who has the leadership skills -- [applause] mr. bush: who has the leadership skills to lead? i am proud of the fact that i have over 12 medal of honor recipients and generals who believe i would have a steady hand as commander in chief and i governor president -- of the state of florida. i took on very powerful interests. i fought for my beliefs and implemented them and the state was better off. we had a number of hurricanes and a number of months and the whole state was turned upside down. it required a steady hand.
leadership. you learn this. you learn by doing. it is not something that -- [applause] mr. bush: look, marco rubio is a gifted, gifted politician, and he may have the skills to be president of the united states. and we have tried it with the old way with barack obama, and we didn't get a leader, we will got somebody -- we got somebody who wants to divide the country up. [tone] david: we are going to continue with leadership now. martha: senator cruz, you are a first-term senator as well. likeopponents say you, senator rubio, are not prepared chief.ommander in you have talked tough about threats we face in the mideast. it was reported just moments ago that the north koreans has launched an intercontinental ballistic missile. north korea has nuclear weapons and conducted another nuclear test just last month.
the missile that was launched is the kind that north korea hopes that will carry a nuclear weapon capable of reaching the united states. how would you respond as commander in chief to the launch? mr. cruz: i would know initially that the fact that we are seeing at this launch that we are seeing this nuclear north korea is a result of the failures of clintont administration. the first clinton administration that led to the world relaxing in sanctions against north korea. of dollars flowed into north korea and they took those billions and build nuclear weapons. and i would say also that the lead negotiator in that failed deal was a woman named wendy sherman who barack obama and hillary clinton probably recruited to come back and be the lead negotiator with iran. so what we are seeing with north korea is foreshadowing of where we are going to be with iran. in respect with north korea and
what we should do now, one of the first things we should do is expand our missile capacity. we should put missile interceptors in south korea. wants them. north korea wants to launch a satellite. one of the greatest risks of satellites is that they would put a nuclear device on the satellite as it would orbit around earth and is and got over the united states, they would set off the weapon and it would set off an emt, which is an electrical pulse. that would kill potentially millions of people on the eastern seaboard. [tone] mr. cruz: we need to protect herself against north korea. this, ifet me ask you you were commander in chief tonight, would you order the military to destroy that missile on the launchpad in order to prevent north korea from becoming an even greater threat? thatruz: i would not say
-- [applause] talked toughave about the middle east and you have not gotten briefings on that, so why would you say the same about north korea? mr. cruz: i have got intelligence briefings on the middle eastern situations for years, what i have in gotten are therth korea intelligence briefings from tonight. i have been in new hampshire. one would have to look at those. this is qualitatively different. your hands are somewhat tied once they have nukes. iranian nuclear deal is so catastrophic and that is why i pledge on the very first day in office too ripped to shreds this iranian a nuclear deal so we are not sitting here in five years wondering what to do about an iranian missile launch when they have nuclear weapons.
the stakes are too high for that. [tone] has beeno the missile sitting there for quite some time. they have done nothing with that. mr. rubio: it is a standard procedure of the red states to shoot down those missiles during a launch. martha: senator, you're talking about a preemptive strike on a launchpad. mr. rubio: i know, but i think it is important to note that it is standard procedure of the united states, given the fact that those missiles pose a threat to land, to shoot down that missile in mid flight. i understand your point about a preemptive flight, but my point is there is now a set of contingencies to help that missile from not destroying anything in the that states or implicating are hurting any of our allies. thank you senator rubio, and governor kasich, how would you make your response? mr. kasich: everyone of my 100
town hall meetings in new hampshire are a lot more fun than what i saw today. they were a lot more positive. look, in terms of north korea, martha, we have to make sure that we stop their ships and their aircraft. do ishey are trying to proliferate this very dangerous material along with all of the technology and the instruments that can be used for mass destruction. that is what i worry about the most. the nonstate actors, the people who don't have a uniform, the people who don't have a country, who can spread this, were not subject to the mutually assured defense, in other words, the you strike us, we strike you. these radicals, they don't care about that. that is what i worry about for my children and grandchildren going forward. with the chinese, we should say, if you are not going to do this, ballistic defense to korea or to japan, and by the way, we should impose the same kind of
fractions on north korea that we imposed on iran. we've got to be very tough on this and frankly, i think we could have let the japanese know that if you want to take action on that missile that is rising, you want to take action? you will have our support if that is what you think will be the best thing to do. we will not continue to be weak in the face of north korea and frankly, the entire rest of the world. thank you. martha: thank you, and i will get to you in a moment. thishristie: -- mr. bush: is part of the strategic manipulation of the obama administration. the nationstates on the run. the next president is going to have to get the united states back in the game. if this involves a preemptive strike, then we should do it. martha: thank you, mr. bush. mr. trump, do you have a redline with north korea?
would you consider military action and how far would you let them go? mr. trump: lenny say a few things, first of all, marco said a few minutes ago that he said that obama knows exactly what he is doing, i disagree respectfully with marco. i think we have a president who as a president is totally incompetent and he doesn't know what he is doing. i think he has no idea what he is doing at our country is going to hell. so i does want to say we disagree on that. is that ok? [laughter] mr. cruz: yeah, i got mentioned, may i respond? mr. trump: we have tremendous -- it is just been sucked of the country by china. china does not have that much control over north korea. i have dealt with the chinese all of the time, ideal with them. have total,, they
absolute control practically of north korea. they are sucking trillions of dollars out of our country. we are rebuilding china with the money they take out of our country. i get along with china and let china solve that problem. they can do it quickly and surgically. that is what we should do with north korea. [tone] martha: senator rubio? broadero: there is a play as well and i think it touched on what donald just mentioned. barack obama sees america as global power. this is a man who views this problemsho creates around the world. for example, this is one of the reasons why he betrayed israel, because he believed we created separation from israel and it will create problems in the islamic world. the same with the asian region. north korea should be back on that list of terrorist nations, as an example. and donald is absolutely right, china should have control over north korea and we should be
leveraging our control with china so that we can make sure that north korea would not have access to any of those resources to develop long-range missiles are already capable of reaching the west coast of the united states potentially. [tone] martha: thank you, senator rubio. bush, north korea is currently detaining an american college student. what would you do to get that american college student back home? mr. bush: first of all, this happened literally days after the hostage release arrangement with iran. a few days afterward, korea took an american student hostage. i think it is when we send a single -- sunday signal of weakness that these countries are willing to commit these crimes. these shameful treatment of our sailors and this signals weakness around the world. the next president of the united states is going to have to get that in the game where the united states's word matters.
we will not send signals of weakness. we should do everything that is student to get this back. and john is right, there are crippling sanctions that we these twoon were three banks that they use. not just because of the student but because of the actions they are taking right now in building these missile capabilities. [applause] martha: i want to ask you the same question, mr. christie. would you negotiate with north korea? mr. christie: i want to talk about this, you never pay ransom to criminals. never. everyone at home washington i understand that principle. what you need to do is engage in a much different way with these folks. they do not understand anything but toughness and strength.
we need to engage the chinese to deal with the north koreans but we also need to make sure that we have a better standards for a commander-in-chief who will not play ransoms for any hostage. this president and his secretary of state are for paying for ransom for hostages. world,do this around the you need a strong commander in chief who will look these folks in the eye and say, we will not up for this and we will take whatever actions we need to take not only to get our people home safely but to swiftly and surely punish those people who believe they can violate the law and violate americans' sovereign right to travel the world freely and safely. [tone] is why this: that president is so weak and that is why supporting a third barack obama term would be even weaker. [applause] toid: we are going to turn immigration now and i'm going to bring in governor kasich, you said that "it is completely
ridiculous to think we are going to go into neighborhoods and grab people out of their homes and ship people back to mexico." you said "that is not where the party is." madeor trump and rubio who deportation part of their campaigns, are you now where the voters are? david, i have spent a lot of time in this state and we have practical solutions, just like we were just talking about a few minutes ago with north korea. look, the situation is, we need to finish the border. it has to be completed. just what we lock our doors and i, we need to be a lock our doors. i we should have a guest worker program were people should be able to come in and out and move on their own way. if people have come in here and they have not committed a crime since they have not been here, they should pay their back taxes and pay a fine. i could not even imagine how we
would begin to think about taking a mom or a dad out of the without taking a child out of the house? that is not the kind of values that we believe in and at the end of the day, i think congress should pass a plan to finish the border and have a path of legalization and not citizenship and we've got to get this done. i will tell you this -- [tone] mr. kasich: with the first hundred days -- first 100 days i would be president, i would promise you that we could get the votes to pass that we could move on with that issue and protect our borders. [applause] governor kasich, thank you. i want to direct his next question to senator cruz. you heard what the governor practicalaid he had
solutions. he said he did not want to send jackboots to every door. that is not how he wants to be on crime. so what is your plan, be specific, how would you do it? in terms of a practical solution, i have laid out a most detailed plan for solving a legal immigration. it is 11 pages, chapter and verse, on our webpage, tedcruz.org. we're going to triple the border increase and since donald enjoy that, i think i got somebody in mind who could tilde it. we are going to increase fourfold the rotary wing aircraft so that we have technology that would be able to monitor the boots on the ground where they are occurring. ofre going to put in place verifying system in the workplace so you cannot get a job without proving that you live here legally. we will put an entry and exit system on visas because 40% of happensimmigration b
through visas. we will cut off tax dollars to any jurisdiction that defies federal laws and we will end welfare benefits to those who are here illegally. [applause] david: governor kasich was talking about the families and what would you do with the families that you have to sent home. can you talk to the american people tonight about how you would do that? mr. cruz: what you would do is enforce the law. under the american constitution, the president has an obligation exercise thisto legislation." we saw just this past week that the head of portable troll testified before congress that president obama had given border patrol to stand down and not to enforce the law. that is wrong. i will enforce the law. for everyone who says, you can't possibly do that, i would note that in eight years, bill clinton deported 8 million
people, in eight years, george w. bush deported 10 million people, and this presidency, what we are missing is the political will. [tone] securez: once usyou the border, that will bring back jobs to american workers. thank you, senator cruz. senator rubio, you are aware of criticism too many on stage 90 you co-authored the so-called gang of eight ill that would -- stage tonight that you co-authored the so-called gang that would allow protection for those in here. did you fight for your own legislation senator or did you run from it? we cruz: -- mr. rubio: cannot get that legislation passed until the law is enforced. this has been abundantly clear in every effort over the last 10 years to do this copper
handsomely and it has failed because the american people have zero trust that the federal government will enforce our laws. that is why i have said that if you are serious about immigration reform, then the key that unlocks the door to be able to do that is not just the path to the law but to actually do it , to hire the 20,000 new border agents, to higher people -- to hire people to finish the fence on the wall. oncethat is in place and that is working, i believe the american people will support a very reasonable that responsible approach to people who have been here a long time, who were not dangerous criminals, who are paying taxes and paying fines for what they did. david: what i'm asking if you fought for the legislation at the time or did you run from it? mr. rubio: it passed but it did not have support. it will never pass in the nine states until we secure the border and it is not the way we are going to do it when i am president. we are going to enforce the law
first and prove to people that is legal immigration is under control and then see what the american people are willing to support when it comes to people who were not criminals and who have been in this country for a long time and who would otherwise like to stay. david: governor christie? mr. trump: i would just -- mr. christie: i would just like to tell everyone again everybody that he is repeating everything. and -- did hen fight for his legislation? no he didn't. it is abundantly clear that he did not fight for his legislation. when it came for teacher tenure, them, and fought them and fought them until i won. i would head to the governor's mansion, open a pizza and a beer and watch the mets. they didn't pass the tax
increases because i be towed it and they knew that i would fight for what i believed in. the fact of the matter is, a leader must fight for what they believe in. not saying because i cannot win this one run. [tone] mr. christie: that is what leadership is. [applause] leadership is ultimately about solving the problem and the approach now that has been tried and tried repeatedly over the past 10 years with a massive piece of legislation has no chance of passage. it is not leadership to try to continue something that has no chance of happening. i want to make progress on this issue. it has been discussed up or 30 years and nothing has ever happened. and i can tell you that the only way moving forward for the is -- of this happened this happening is getting the support of the american people. david: senator rubio, thank you.
we want to turn to health care and without we turn to mary catherine -- katherine. trump,therine: mr. bernie sanders has pushed for single-payer health care. so, he is doubling down on obamacare despite its persistent unpopularity. mr. trump, you said that you want to appeal obamacare and you said that everybody has got to be covered adding that "the government has got to pay for it?" are you closer to bernie sanders's view of health care compared to hillary clinton? mr. trump: i don't think so. i think i am closer to common sense. i will tell you that part of the reason that we have people clapping is that we have insurance people taking care of people appear.
we have our lines around each state. the insurance companies are getting rich on obamacare. insurance copies are getting rich on health care and health services and everything having to do with health, we're going to get rid of that. we are going to get a plan were people can organize and compete so much better. that, in addition to that, we have the health care savings plans, which are excellent. what i will say is there will be a certain number of people that will be on the street dying, and as a republican, i don't want that to happen. we are going to take care of people who are dying on the street because there are going to be a group of people who are not going to be able to think in terms of private or anything else and we are going to take care of those people and i think the anybody on this stage would have to agree, you are not going to let people die, sitting in the middle of a street in any city in this country. [tone] [applause]
mary katherine: senator cruz, to that point, may be you have "no but there is a question here about uncovered folks. you suggested about repealing and replacing obamacare as for the obama's broken promise. carries the risk that some people will lose their insurance coverage or they will have to change it. how can you convince those people that it is still in their best interest? mr. cruz: let me talk about two parts of this and let me start with socialized medicine. it is a disaster, it does not work. socialized medicine has put the government in charge of providing medicine and what inevitably happens is rationing. doctors a scarcity of and that means you have the elderly who are told that we are going to rationing hip replacement and ration knee replacement and ration
end-of-life care. we have a 90,000 doctor shortage in america and socialized medicine, whether proposed by the democrats or the republicans, would hurt the people of this country. what should we do with health care? president, we will repeal every word of obamacare and once we do that we will adopt common sense reforms and we will allow people to purchase health insurance across state lines that will drive down prices and it will extend the availability of low-cost, catastrophic insurance. [tone] we will expand health insurance accounts and we will make sure you will lose your health insurance when you lose your job and that way health l,surance can be persona portable, and it will allow the government from not being evil to get in between us and our doctors. mary katherine: dr. carson, you have some experience with this matter, and you think that
obamacare should be replaced and repealed. how and why? mr. carson: thank you. i was hoping to get a chance to talk about north korea. i did not get a chance to do that. at any rate, you have to replace it with something that makes sense. it doesn't make sense. the reason i don't like obama care is because the government comes in and tells the people that we don't care what you think. here is what we're are doing and if you don't like it, too bad. that will fundamentally change america. accountroposed a health and i would say that everyone gets one the day they are born and they keep it until they die and then they pass it on. we would recognize that we spent twice as much as many countries per capita on health care and don't have as much as. this would give people the ability to shift money within their account so that each
family basically becomes its own insurance company without a middleman and that saves you an awful lot of money. a largeuld save you amount of cost with the catastrophic insurance. with the current health care system, i could go ahead and explain it, but i don't have the time. [tone] i would be happy to do so if i had more time, but go ahead and go to my website, bencarson.com. it will describe it more in detail. mary katherine: thank you, mr. carson. david and martha? david: thank you. let's head over to josh now. josh? josh: thank you david, thank you martha. in discussing eminent domain, mr. trump, you supported the
keystone pipeline project, and here in new hampshire, a project known as the northern pass would allow hydroelectric power to come into the area. do you see eminent domain as a proper tool to get that project done? mr. trump: almost all of these people, actually, chris hasn't, but so many people have hit me with commercials and stuff about eminent romain. -- eminent domain. wouldn't haveu roads, you wouldn't have hospitals, you wouldn't have anything, you wouldn't have schools, you wouldn't have bridges, you need eminent domain. howve people who tell me conservative they are, and they keep saying, all we need the keystone pipeline. to get the keystone pipeline, you need eminent domain, and without eminent domain, you don't get the keystone pipeline. does is whendomain
it is use on a person's property, they get a fortune. they get fair market value or if they are smart, they will get two or three times the amount of their property. it come you have don't have highways, schools, or anything. eminent domain is a necessity for a country. [tone] mr. trump: and certainly it is a necessity for our country. --h: the difference between mr. bush? mr. bush: the difference between eminent domain and property is that donald trump would take property from an elderly woman off of the strip in atlantic city. [applause] -- bush: the problem was, he mr. trump: he is tried it make me a tough guy -- mr. bush: you tried --
mr. trump: the woman ultimately didn't want to do that -- a. bush: to turn this into limousine parking lot for his casinos is not a public use and in florida they somewhat we did and we made that impossible and part of our constitution. that is a better approach of that is the conservative approach. mr. trump: let me just have a second, tough guy. [laughter] to bush: how tough it is take a little old lady's property. [boo] that is all of his donors and special interests. [laughter] [boos] mr. trump: that's what it is. that's what it is, i tell you. and by the way, i couldn't get tickets for the television audience, donors, special interest, the people who are putting up -- [boos] mr. trump: the rnc told us that
we have all donors in the yudience and the reason the are not lovingly -- excuse me, excuse me -- the reason they are not loving me is because i am going to do the right thing for the american public. i don't want their money and i don't need their money and i'm going to do the right thing for the american public. the keystone pipeline, is likely to be a private job? [tone] mr. bush: it is a public use. it is a public use. mr. trump: no, it is a private job. mr. bush: federal and state -- mr. trump: you wouldn't have the keystone pipeline that you want so badly without eminent domain. josh: but what about -- mr. trump: excuse me, josh. josh: we do have to move forward. back, jobs,we come isis, and what it means to be a conservative. [applause] live from saying as
anslem live from st. college in new hampshire, this is the republican new hampshire debate. governor, while campaigning here in new hampshire, you are already asked donors.bout governor kasich, you said, "isn't it nice to have a conservative like me likes? d? the definition of conservatism is going to change." how would you change conservativism? mr. kasich: as "the new york times," he is not a "the new york- times" said, he is not a conservative. i have balanced budgets, the federal budget, the state of ohio was using a federal
surplus, and in washington, we were able to have significant job growth whenever we balance the budget, of which i was the architect. but here is the beauty of it, it is not just about a jet, it is about jobs. you know, when i was a kid who grew up in a neighborhood where dad came home and said, i lost my job today, it just killed the family. it was just a devastating effect. growth.have as economic we have to reach out to the people in the shadows, the addicted,ll, the drug and others. in other words, in america, conservativism should mean not only the sun rises with conservative principles, but everybody has a chance to rise to be able to live to their god-given purpose. [tone] [applause] david: mr. trump, you have heard the argument from many here on
stage that you are not a conservative. tell them why you are? mr. trump: as a derivative of want to conserve, we conserve our money, we want to conserve our wealth, we want to conserve, we want to be smart, we want to be smart in where we go when how we spend, we want to conserve our country, we want to save our country, and we have people who have no idea how to do that and they are not doing it and it is a very important word and it is something i believe in very, very strongly. david: mr. trump, thank you. you said you don't believe that he is a conservative yourself. are you a conservative? conservativism is about limited government especially at the federal level. the federal government is limited government delineated by the constitutional powers. to the states and local communities and the
private sector. it is about free enterprise which is an economic model which allows everybody to rise without holing everyone down. the reason that free enterprise is the greatest economic model in the world is because it is the only economic model where you can make poor people richer without making rich people poor. it is about making the world a threatslace and making is the safest place in the plant. that is what conservativism is about. [applause] david: mr. trump, mr. christie has said that if you get to ask a question, just ask him how and mr. christie said, just ask him how. you would create jobs and tell americans and i how many jobs you would create? jobsrump: i will bring back from china, i will bring jobs back from japan, i will
from jobs back mexico. now we are about to sign another trade deal, the tpp, which is going to be a disaster for this country because they don't talk about monetary manipulation. it is going to be a disaster. i'm going to bring jobs back and i'm going to bring them back very fast. under my tax plan, we are done highest tax country in the world. under my plan, we cut taxes for we will bringnd back trillions of dollars that are offshore. we will bring back 2.5 trillion dollars, and in my opinion, there is much more. we are losing pfizer and other great countries that are now leaving. we have many companies who are now leaving this country and we are going to have a tax structure that is going to keep them in our country. [tone] trump, thank you, and
there are a lot of governors on this stage tonight. governorchristie, kasich said that they had balanced the budget in ohio and it is not balanced over in new jersey. is his record on jobs actually stronger than yours? mr. trump: -- mr. christie: well, he deserves credit for his job in ohio, he deserves credit for that and i never have said a good governor of ohio. i have never said that. unfortunately, he has been so busy on the campaign trail that he is using old data. government nower and more employees when he walked in the door. but i have been working hard. but all of that doesn't matter. executive experience really matters. you have heard this on the stage tonight. president obama knows exactly
what he is doing. i would like to ask all of the veterans out there tonight who are waiting in line for health care who are literally -- health care, who are literally dying, do you know what barack obama is doing? i don't. he doesn't know how to manage a government and one last thing, which i think is really important, i listened to senator rubio's answer on his bill, and he said his bill was passed on the gang of eight. [tone] somehowstie: he was disembodied from this bill, it was his idea. when you are governor, you have to take responsibility for these things. you can't just act as if it would happen from out of nowhere. you have to take responsibility for your record, and we rebuilt the economy of the state of new jersey after the second worst disaster in the state. [tone] david: governor kasich? mr. kasich: look, i am not here -- i like chris.
you, firstjust tell of all, we have the lowest number of state employees in 30 years. secondly, we have grown government at the rate of inflation rat. we have grown jobs by 400,000. that is one of the fastest growing states in the country. our pension is secure and our credit is rocksolid. i have learned what makes things work and what makes the economy going not just in ohio and in washington as well, and it takes three things, lowest taxes, we have the lowest tax cuts in the country, and thirdly, a fiscal plan that would balance of budget. when you go from 3 million in the whole to 2 million in the hole -- $3 million in the black, thatn in the is part of the effort to balance the budget to create a surplus and give more jobs.
david: governor, thank you. i do want to turn from john to taxes. if you would like to respond to the governor -- mr. christie: i would like to respond -- mr. rubio: i would like to respond -- david: to the gang of eight bill first. anyone who thinks the president obama isn't doing what he is doing a purpose doesn't understand this here. when he talked about change, he was in dealing with our problems. obamacare was not an accident. the undermining of the second amendment is not an accident. the undermining of america on the global stage is not an accident. barack obama is indeed trying to redefine this country. better understanding of what we're dealing with here. david: the governor wasn't talking about the president -- mr. rubio: i want to talk about barack obama. david: levy talk about taxes, senator rubio.
taxes.me talk about mr. rubio: i don't know if any problem in america is going to be fixed with a tax increase. today thateconomy has one of the most expensive business tax rate on the planet. it puts us on one of the highest in the industrialized world. we have a system of taxation where an american company has to pay taxes where they make the money and then pay more taxes when they get back. they had to spend $2 trillion of american corporate money that is stranded overseas, combined with all of these conversions of these companies leaving us. the problems is not a tax increase. you have to lower taxes on people and on companies so that we can make america globally competitive again. senator rubio, thank you.
i want to bring in governor bush. let me just repeat that number, 60% of americans favor raising taxes on people who make more than $1 million. seebush: i would like to more millionaires. i would like to grow more millionaires. this notion that somehow we are under taxed as a nation is just havehearty when we entitlements growing a far a conservative believes in limited government and a strong national defense, but we need to reform things. i went to a place where a woman described her neighbor who has a better economic deal by not working then her struggling to make and meet. ofneed to be on the side working people. the problem on the left is another tax, another regulation makes it harder to rise up. shoulding we should do be focused on high sustained growth where people are rewarded
for work rather than non-work. if people are interested in the specifics, they are to go to jeb 2016.com. [applause] mr. christie: i actually have experience on this. i want to tell you the truth. you are wrong. after new jersey raised taxes on millionaires, we lost in the next four years $70 billion in wealth. it wrecked our state to go where would be treated more kindly. if the united states raised taxes any further, that number will leave the united states. let new jersey be the canary in a coal mine. it is a failed policy, it is class warfare. it happened in my state. it will hurt the american
economy. come take a look. it did not work. martha: senator cruz, you advocate what you called carpet bombing or saturation bombing to defeat isis, fighting more than 1100 era tax and day that the u.s. carried out during the first gulf war in 1991. defeat how a strategy to a standing army would work against an unconventional terrorist group that is now hiding amongst the population. senator cruz: it starts with a commander-in-chief and the objective has to be utterly destroying isis. everything else flows from there. objective, wehe have the tools to carry that out. the first tool is overwhelming air power. it is one of the blessings of this united states. we have the ability to use that air power. first persian gulf wall --
1100an gulf war was on attacks a day mr. obama is launching between 13 and 15. targeted at command and control locations and infrastructure and communications. it is targeted at all of the rows and ridges and using overwhelming air power. a couple of weeks ago, it was reported that there is a facility open called jihadist university. why is that building still standing? .t should be rubble i would be willing to wait until freshman orientation to be willing to launch those bombs. expand would you want to the rules of communication -- the rules of engagement? i was just at a station who said the rules of engagement work because you have too many
civilians in those areas. senator cruz: i have visited with veterans over and over state ofh them in the new hampshire. what we are doing to our sons and daughters is immoral. they cannot defend themselves and it is wrong. and i will tell you this. america has always been reluctant to use military force. it, we and when we use should use overwhelming force, kill the enemy and get the hack out. don't engage in nation but allow our soldiers to do their jobs in set of risking their lives with politicians making it impossible for them to accomplish the agenda -- the objective. martha: senator rubio, you said in the last debate at isis is the most dangerous jihadist group in the history of mankind and it will take overwhelming force to defeat them.
can you tell us what you mean? rubio: they are not just a jihadist group, they are an apocalyptic group. they want to trigger the arrival of their messianic figure. the reason it is important to understand that is that these are not groups that are going to go away on their own. they are going to have to be defeated and i believe they have to be defeated by a ground force made up of sunni arabs. that will require a coalition of iraqis and syrians and require .he cooperation of jordanians we should ask more of the saudi's. it will have to be backed up with increased airstrikes and we have to strike them not just in iraq and syria but every other part of the world where they have created operations.
a sophisticated network of radicalizing people here in the homeland and around the world, but it all begins by taking away their safe operating spaces. you have already said isis is the most dangerous jihadist group in the history of mankind. that would make it more dangerous than al qaeda, the insurgents we found in iraq. we have committed hundreds of thousands of troops to fight those groups will stop so why not commit a large u.s. ground force? mr. rubio: cities and villages can only truly be held by cities themselves. are incredible fighters and will liberate the kurdish area but they cannot and will not hold sunni villages and
towns. to avoid the sort of sectarian violence follows in the pass and why that is important is if they are not able to govern themselves in this area, you a successor group to al qaeda. they broke away from al qaeda because as horrible as al qaeda is not a thought al qaeda was not enough. dotha: what would you differently to try to get those sunni forces? they have not been coming forward. theyubio: the problem is don't trust this administration. it makes it very difficult to cooperate with them as a result. realalso understand what u.s. air power looks like. they saw the iraq war. air power looks
like when the united states is committed to the cause and see the airstrikes being conducted now and say that is not real commitment. the rodange ian king was in washington three weeks ago and told everyone who would listen that they begged for permission to target caravans and the coalition meeting they would not be allowed to proceed with those airstrikes. trump, you have said you will vigorously bomb isis. you say we have to get rid of isis. how would you get will with of them quickly and please give us specifics. mr. trump: well, four years ago, i said, bomb the oil and take the oil. and if we did that, they wouldn't have the wealth they have right now. now, i still say the same thing, because we're doing little pinpricks. we're not even bombing if somebody's driving a truck, they give notice to the person driving the truck, "we're going to bomb." if they don't get out of the truck, the truck sails away with the oil. we actually have a case where we don't want to bomb the oil,
because we don't want to hurt pollute the atmosphere. can you imagine general douglas macarthur or general patton saying we can't bomb because we're gonna hurt the atmosphere? you have to knock the hell out of the oil. you have to take the oil. and you have also back channels of banking. you have people that you think are our great allies, our friends, in the middle east, that are paying tremendous numbers of tremendous amounts of money to isis. so we have to stop those circuits. nobody knows banking better than i do. they have back circuits, back channels. tremendous amounts of money is coming in through the banking system. so between the oil and the banking, you will dry them up. but it should have been done four years ago, not now. martha: and and what would you do in those cities, where there are people who we are trying to help, who isis is essentially holding hostage? mr. trump: you have to go in first of all, when you take away their money, when you take away their wealth, that'll very much weaken and it will happen fairly fast. they'll last for about a year, based on all of the wealth they've accumulated. but when you stop the banking channels and when you stop the
oil and take the oil not just bomb it, take it when you do that, it's going to dry up very quickly. they're going to become a very weakened power, quickly. thank you. martha: thank you very much, mr. trump. [applause] let's turn to libya. governor bush, it is a country in chaos. there is no government. this week, defense officials said there are now 5,000 isis fighters there, roughly doubling previous estimates. we know you and others have been critical of the administration's handling of libya after the initial air strikes that you supported. but this is a problem you would stand to inherit if you're the next president. reports this week said the administration is considering new air strikes, possible special operations raids. would you support renewed air strikes or any u.s. involvement on the ground? mr. bush: i would. and i would do it in concert, again, with our arab allies and with europe, most particularly in this case. this is the lesson learned: in
history, if you bomb something and not do anything as it relates to deal with the aftermath of this, if you don't have a stable government, you get what we have in libya. and this is not leading from behind is not an effective policy. we have to lead. without the united states, nothing seems to work. europe doesn't have the ability to to to lead forward lead in this regard. and so dealing with the caliphate is important, because it now has spawned other areas. there have been 70-plus attacks in 17 countries, either inspired by isis or organized by isis, libya being the most important one now. we have to deal with the caliphate, with building a sunni army there, but we also have to deal with it in libya. and i think the united states, ultimately, is going to play play a significant role in this. the problem with the obama administration is that they see this incrementally. they're reluctant. they don't lead. no one knows whether we're serious, and when we do it, we do it in increments you can barely see. [bell rings] the united states has to lead in a much more aggressive way than we're doing right now. [applause]
martha: thank you very much, governor bush. dr. carson? carson: i want to say something about this, because i'm not here just to add beauty to the stage. [laughter] you know, i've been talking about libya for quite a long time. i think i was the first one to start talking about it because i say we have to have a proactive foreign policy strategy. and of course, the next place that isis is going to attack to is libya. if you want to expand your caliphate and increase your influence, then you're going to go to a place that's strategically located. you go north, across the mediterranean. you're into southern europe. you go south, you're into chad and sudan and niger. not to mention the fact that you have much more oil than you do in iraq. that's the kind of place that they're going to go to, therefore, we need to be thinking about how do we prevent them from tacking over there. they're already sending their fighters there, we need to be consulting with our military experts and asking them what do they need in order to prevent
isis from being able to take over libya. that's going to have enormous concede for us. martha: and would you support renewed airstrikes? carson: i would support the possibility of renewed airstrikes if in conjunction with our joint chiefs and our military people they felt that was an appropriate strategy. the fact of the matter is none of us up here is a military expert, and we sometimes act like we are, but we're not. and if we actually sit down and talk with them and get them to understand our plan and their impression of what needs to be done, i think we're going to make a lot more progress. mr. bush: martha and david, i just... martha: we're going to move on. mr. bush: martha and david... david: martha, thank you. we're just going to we're going to stay on isis here and the war on terror, because as you know, there's been a debate in this country about how to deal with the enemy and about enhanced interrogation techniques ever since 9/11. so senator cruz, you have said, quote, "torture is wrong, unambiguously, period. civilized nations do not engage in torture." some of the other candidates say they don't think waterboarding is torture.
mr. trump has said, i would bring it back. senator cruz, is waterboarding torture? mr. cruz: well, under the definition of torture, no, it's not. under the law, torture is excruciating pain that is equivalent to losing organs and systems, so under the definition of torture, it is not. it is enhanced interrogation, it is vigorous interrogation, but it does not meet the generally recognized definition of torture. david: if elected president, would you bring it back? mr. cruz: i would not bring it back in any sort of widespread use. and indeed, i joined with senator mccain in legislation that would prohibit line officers from employing it because i think bad things happen when enhanced interrogation is employed at lower levels. but when it comes to keeping this country safe, the commander in chief has inherent constitutional authority to keep this country safe. and so, if it were necessary to,
say, prevent a city from facing an imminent terrorist attack, you can rest assured that as commander in chief, i would use whatever enhanced interrogation methods we could to keep this country safe. david: senator cruz, thank you. mr. trump, you said not only does it work, but that you'd bring it back. mr. trump: well, i'll tell you what. in the middle east, we have people chopping the heads off christians, we have people chopping the heads off many other people. we have things that we have never seen before as a group, we have never seen before, what's happening right now. the medieval times i mean, we studied medieval times not since medieval times have people seen what's going on. i would bring back waterboarding and i'd bring back a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding. [applause] david: mr. trump, thank you. governor bush, you have said that you won't rule waterboarding out. congress has passed laws banning the use of waterboarding by the military and the cia, as you know. would you want congress to change that if you're elected president? mr. bush: no, no, i wouldn't. no, i wouldn't.
and it was used sparingly, congress has changed the laws and i and i think where we stand is the appropriate place. but what we need to do is to make sure that we expand our intelligence capabilities. the idea that we're going to solve this fight with predator drones, killing people somehow is a is more acceptable than capturing them, securing the information. this is why closing guantanamo is a complete disaster. what we need to do is make sure that we are kept safe...[applause]...by having intelligence capabilities, both human and technological intelligence capabilities far superior than what we have today. that's how you get a more safe place is by making sure that we're fully engaged. and right now, this administration doesn't do that. david: governor bush, thank you. [applause] senator rubio, i do want to ask you, you have said that you do not want to telegraph to the enemy what you would do as commander in chief. but for the american people watching tonight who want to know where the next president will stand, do you believe waterboarding is torture? mr. rubio: well, when people talk about interrogating terrorists, they're acting like this is some sort of law
enforcement function. law enforcement is about gathering evidence to take someone to trial, and convict them. anti-terrorism is about finding out information to prevent a future attack so the same tactics do not apply. and, it is true, we should not be discussing in a wide spread way the exact tactics that we're going to use because that allows terrorist to know to practice how to evade us. but, here's the bigger problem with all this, we're not interrogating anybody right now. guantanamo's being emptied by this president. we should be putting people into guantanamo, not emptying it out, and we shouldn't be releasing these killers who are rejoining the battlefield against the united states. [applause] david: senator rubio, thank you. we want to turn now to the topic of executive orders, and for that, we're going to turn back to mary katharine ham. mary katharine? ham: thanks, david. senator cruz, on the campaign trail you've promised voters a lot, in fact if you're elected president you'd say you end common core immediately, abolish the irs, and do away with sanctuary cities. you've also been a persistent critic of president obama's executive overreach, going it alone, not working with congress.
how do you intend to implement this aggressive agenda within your constitutional authority, especially given that it would require working with congress and washington players with whom you're happy to say you have a strained relationship? mr. cruz: well, thank you for that question. you know, there are three avenues of presidential authority to change the direction of this country. the first is executive power, the second is foreign policy, and the third is legislation. executive power, as we all know, has been the preferred vehicle of president obama, abusing his authority, abusing his constitutional authority. now, the silver lining of that is everything done with executive power can be undone with executive power, so i have pledged on day one i will rescind every single illegal and unconstitutional executive action barack obama has done. that means on day one his efforts to restrict the second legal amendment go away with the strike of a pen. that means on day one his illegal executive amnesty goes away with the strike of a pen.
the reason i can end common core at the federal level is because obama is abusing executive power using race to the top funds in the department of education to force it on the states. that's one avenue. the second avenue of change is foreign policy, and foreign policy can change the fastest. it's worth remembering that iran released our hostages the day reagan...[bell rings]...was sworn in. and, the third is legislation, and that can only be done with the people behind you, which is why the two big legislative initiatives i'm campaigning on are repealing obamacare, and adopting a simple flat tax to abolish the irs. [applause] ham: mr. trump, senator cruz is known for opposing deals, you literally wrote the book on making them. senator cruz has mentioned that on the trail. what would you say to those conservatives that are concerned that a deal maker will just perpetuate the same deals in washington and the way that things run now [inaudible]...
mr. trump: ... no, a good deal maker will make great deals, but we'll do it the way our founders thought it should be done. people get together, they make deals. ronald reagan did it with tip o'neil very successfully, you didn't hear so much about executive orders, if you heard about it at all. you have to be able to get a consensus. now, the real person like it was mentioned about the deal with iran, how bad a deal is that? it doesn't get any more amateurish than that. a good deal maker would never make a deal like that. with congress, you have to get everybody in a room, and you have to get them to agree. but, you have to get them to agree what you want, and that's part of being a deal maker. you can't leave the white house, go to hawaii and play golf for three weeks and be a real deal maker. it doesn't work that way. you have to get people in, grab them, hug them, kiss them, and get the deal done. but, it's got to be the deal that you want. [applause] ham: governor kasich, is the
problem with washington that there are too many deals, or too few? mr. kasich: well, right now the deals there's no leadership. i mean, a lot of the things that we're talking about here tonight, on the border, and so many of the things. what we should be doing on foreign policy, you know what the problem is, mary katharine? there's not a leader that gets somebody to rise. you have to have a leader that can inspire, and actually some of what donald was saying is true. look, do you know how hard it was... mr. trump: some? mr. kasich: ... to get the balance the federal budget balanced? you have to plead with people. to do what we've done in ohio, you have to plead with people, then you go back down to washington and do the same thing. see, we have to remind people we're americans before we're republicans and democrats, and when we wait, and when we delay what we end up doing, mary katharine, is we make the united states weaker. in fact, it's a foreign policy issue because people look at america not solving problems and they say what are they doing over there? the point is you have to work with people. mr. trump: the problem with
-- mr. k-6: the problem with executive authority for the president, it's really bad news for this reason. since he's given up on working with congress, he thinks he can impose anything he wants. he's not a king. he's a president. an executive order should be used frankly in consolidation and with consulting with the leadership in the in the congress. i've done it in ohio. i consult. i could use executive orders, but i don't trump the legislature, because if you do, you aggravate them, you anger them and then the long-term prospects get bleak. we have to solve problems in america by coming together, republicans and democrats, americans first, party and ideology second in the second back seat of this country. that's what we need to do. [applause] and we can do it. and we can do it. mr. bush: this is a this is an important subject. i agree with everything that's been said here about repealing unconstitutional rules and rules that are creating real burdens for investing that creating jobs. but we also ought to get back to being a tenth amendment country,
as well, a country that respects the states to be able to make more decisions. and in the bush administration, we would shift transportation dollars back to the states. i trust kasich and christie to build the roads and the infrastructure of their states than washington, d.c. epa delegated authority, back to the states. education dollars, back to the states. i would like to see reform take place all across the country, where there's more vouchers, more freedom. [applause] if we did that, we would shrink government's power in washington, d.c. and we would have a much more effective government, where people would begin to trust our government again, because now, no one believes it works. mr. kasich: mary katherine, let me just say this to you. [applause] you must have an agenda that you are ready to move on in the first 100 days. jeb is right. if you delay and you wait, the washington operators will take you down. i can tell you this, in the first 100 days, i will have legislation to freeze federal regulations, have them reviewed by the vice president, reduce state taxes on individuals, reduce taxes on corporations,
have a fiscal plan to balance the budget, get the border protected and begin to fix social security in the first 100 days. so, anybody who is here tonight, if i get elected president, head out tomorrow and buy a seat belt, because there's going to be so much happening in the first 100 days, it's going to make your head spin. we're going to move america forward. i promise you. we're going to move us forward. [applause] mr. bush: you mentioned me. he mentioned me. one other thing that i think we ought to do, along with repealing obamacare, we need to shift all of this power of healthcare, which is the most egregious form of federal power that is suppressing wages and incomes, and allow governors to have the medicaid plans so that they can create 21st century medicaid insurance for people that are stuck in poverty. there's so much that can be done, but i don't trust washington to do it. i trust the state capitals to be the place to be the source of innovation and reform in this country. [applause] ham: thank you, governors. martha and david, back to you. david: mary katherine, thank you.
we want to turn to something the governor of new hampshire said... [laughter] mr. kasich: jeb mentioned me. time for me to go again. mr. bush: i didn't mention him the second time. mr. kasich: he says he didn't mention me the second time. i thought i heard it, jeb. no. i'm just kidding. thank you all very much for listening and being patient with all of us tonight. thank you. david: a connection here on the stage. we're going to move on to what the governor of new hampshire said just this week, and that is that heroin overdose is not the second-leading cause of death in this state. you don't need me to tell you that. but there's another number, 48 percent of the people here in this state knows someone who has abused heroin. josh, who covers this for wmur, has the next question. mcelveen: you're all aware, candidates, this is a major problem here in new hampshire. it's a very deadly problem as well. last month, new hampshire senators kelly ayotte, republican, and jeanne shaheen, democrat, they went down to washington, along with the police chief of the state's largest city to testify before the judiciary committee in d.c. senator cruz, you're a member of that committee. your campaign schedule didn't allow you to attend this.
even so, the police chief called your absence outrageous, given the severity of the problem. last week, though, you told a personal story of a close family member's struggle with addiction. what can you say to law enforcement right now to convince them that you understand the severity of this problem and you're not just saying what people want to hear days before the primary? mr. cruz: well, josh, as you noted, this is a problem that, for me, i understand first-hand. my older sister, myriam, who was my half- sister, struggled her whole life with drug and alcohol addiction. my father and her mom divorced when she was a little girl and she was angry her whole life, and she ended up marrying a man who had been in and out of jail. she then became a single mom and she herself went to jail several times and she ended up spending some time in a crack house. i still remember my father and me driving up to get myriam out of that crack house to try to convince her she needed to be a mom to to my nephew joey.
she wasn't willing to listen. she was not willing to change the path she was on. she was angry. i was had just gotten my first job coming out of law school. i took a $20,000 loan on a credit card to put my nephew, joey, in valley forge military academy he was in sixth grade at the time, to pay his way through that. and about five, six years ago, miriam died of an overdose. it was the coroner ruled it accidental. we don't know. she went to one night, had taken too many pills, and joey walked in and found her dead. this is an absolute epidemic. we need leadership to solve it. solving it has to occur at the state and local level with programs like a.a., and counseling, and churches and charities. but it also has to be securing the borders, because you have got mexican cartels that are smuggling vast amounts of heroin into this country. we know how to secure the borders. what is missing is the political will to do it.
and as president, i will secure the border, we will end this deluge of drugs that is flowing over our southern border and that is killing americans across this country. mcelveen: and governor christie, you have talked a lot about this issue here in new hampshire. [applause] state reforms, criminal justice reforms, access to treatment. to senator cruz's point, let's take it a step further. would you be willing to engage in cross-border enforcement into mexico, a place where law enforcement in new hampshire has traced at lot of this supply back to. would you engage in cross-border enforcement without the cooperation without the mexican government? mr. christie: of course i would. as a former united states attorney who spent seven years of my life fighting this on the streets of my state, i would do that. but we need to do more. and let me tell you what we've done in new jersey, josh. we are working with the folks in new hampshire in their legislature right now to show them how we're helping to solve this problem in new jersey. not just for this campaign three years ago, i proposed a law that we signed into effect, which said that anyone who was a non- violent, non-dealing, first-time drug offender no
longer goes to prison in new jersey. they go to mandatory, in-patient drug treatment. what has happened is, crime has gone down 20 percent in those years. the prison population has gone down 10 percent. we've now closed the state prison closed a state prison, and we're turning it into a drug rehabilitation facility, so people can get the tools they need. listen, everyone out there knows this in new hampshire. this is a disease. it's not a moral failing, it's a disease. and we need to get people the treatment they need. and let me tell you why. because i'm pro-life. and i'm pro life not just for the nine months in the womb, i'm pro-life for when they get out and it's a lot more complicated. [applause] sixteen-year-old, heroin-addicted drug girl on the floor of the county lockup, i'm pro-life for her life. the 42-year-old lawyer who is taking oxycontin and can't get out of bed and support his family i'm pro-life for his life. everyone of those lives is an individual gift from god. and the last thing is this. these efforts we've taken over the last three years, 2015 in new jersey, for the first time in four years, drug overdose deaths have gone down, not up. i'll bring the same solutions to
the country. [applause] mcelveen: governor christie, thank you very much. david, martha, back to you. martha: thank you, governor christie. thank you, josh. our partner in this debate, the independent journal review, has collected questions from some prominent conservatives around the country. here's a videotaped question from radio host larry o'connor. [begin video clip] o'connor: in 2008, we saw how motivated an electorate can be when they think their vote is making history. let's face it: if hillary clinton is the nominee for the democrats, you'll be running against the prospect of the first woman president. how will you change that narrative and motivate the electorate behind your candidacy? [end video clip] mr. trump: well... martha: mr. trump, i'm going to give that question to you. you took it you took it away anyway. mr. trump: yes. ok, good. it looked like he was looking right at me, right there. i think that i look at what's going on, i look at all of the polls, i do very, very well against hillary clinton. i can tell you, i'm the last person that she wants to run against. and i think you can see what we've done in terms of galvanizing. i've been all over the country.
we're last night, i was in south carolina, we had 12,000 people. it set up in about four days. we have galvanized and we've created a movement. a lot of it has to do with as an example, josh's question on drugs. i'm the first person that said, "build a wall." but i mean, a real wall, not a toy wall like they have right now. a real wall. and you'll solve lots of problems. but we will galvanize the people of this country, and we will beat hillary clinton. because assuming that she runs, by the way, how she gets away with the e-mail stuff is hard to believe. so, i don't know that she's going to be running. but on the assumption she runs... [applause] i mean, look. and speaking of that, if she runs, she's running for one reason. she's going to be able to run for one reason, and that's because the democrats are protecting her. because so many people have done so much less than her, and they were absolutely their lives have been destroyed. but on the assumption they do protect her, i will win the election and we will win it by a lot. we will win it handily. we cannot have another four
years of essentially barack obama. [applause] martha: thank you, mr. trump. i'm going to go to senator rubio on this. how would you change that narrative? mr. rubio: i think it's already happening. look at the turnout in iowa. a historic number of people came out and voted in those caucuses. there are saying the same thing is going to happen here in new hampshire. look at the rallies that every single person on this stage is having. much higher numbers than you used to see in the past and here is why. because people are starting to understand, very clearly, that this election is going to be a turning point. that 2016 is not just a choice between republican or democrat. it is a referendum on our identity as a nation and as a people. so here is what hillary clinton needs to understand. we're going to have our primary, we're going to have our debates which by the way, are twice as many as the democrats have been willing to have themselves. but we're going to bring this party together and we are going to defeat hillary clinton, because she is unqualified to be the president of the united states of america. she put classified information on her computer because she thinks she's above the law and anyone who lies to the families of people who have lost their loved ones in the service of our country like she did in
benghazi, can never be the commander-in-chief of the united states of america. [applause] martha: thank you, senator rubio. dr. carson, i want to go to you on larry o' connor's question. would you change the narrative? carson: it's the same question? martha: yes. carson: yes. well, first of all, i think it would be a pretty easy contrast, quite frankly, between myself and hillary clinton. in one case, you have someone who is known as a deceitful individual. an individual who at benghazi, which i will never let go, quite frankly, because i think of those two men who went up there on the top of that compound with machine guns, firing away, allowing their colleagues to escape. and i'm sure, in the back of their mind, they were just saying, if we can just hold on, help is on the way. but help was not on the way. when did we in the united states not send people to help our own people?
you know, this is not who we are. [applause] and i would simply make it a referendum on honesty and integrity versus deceit and the washington way. david: martha? martha: thank you very much dr. carson. i'm going to go back to david. david: governor, well come to you in the next segment. when we come back, questions about race, about our veterans and social issues what younger conservative voters are now saying as we continue with new hampshire with the republican debate, right here on abc. david: welcome back to new hampshire, abc news coverage of the republican debate, and it's great to have you back at the podiums, and we want to turn to race in america. and mr. trump, there are many who argue cell phones and smartphones are just now exposing what's been happening in this country for years. cases of excessive force against minorities. as you know, mr. trump, on the other side, the fbi director recently said there's a chill wind blowing through law enforcement because of increased scrutiny. you have said police are the most mistreated people in america.
as president, how do you bridge the divide? mr. trump: well, there is a divide, but i have to say that the police are absolutely mistreated and misunderstood, and if there is an incident, whether it's an incident done purposely which is a horror, and you should really take very strong action or if it is a mistake, it's on your news casts all night, all week, all month, and it never ends. the police in this country have done an unbelievable job of keeping law and order, and they're afraid for their jobs, they're afraid of the mistreatment they get, and i'm telling you that not only, me speaking, minorities all over the country, they respect the police of this country and we have to give them more respect. they can't act. they can't act. they're afraid for losing their pension, their job. they don't know what to do. and i deal with them all the time. we have to give great respect, far greater than we are right now, to our really fantastic police. [applause] david: great.
mr. trump, i did ask about bridging the divide though as president. so what would you say to the american families who say we have lived through this, we have seen excessive force? what would you say to those people? mr. trump: well, they do. and, you know, they sue. everybody sues, right? they see excessive i mean, they go out, they sue. we have so much litigation i see the courts, i see what they're doing. they sue, and you know what? we don't want excessive force. but at what point you know, either you're going to have a police force that can do its job... i was just up in manchester, i met with the police officers yesterday. tremendous people. they love the area, they love the people, they love all the people. they want to do their job. and you're going to have abuse and you're going to have problems, and you've got to solve the problems and you have to weed out the problems. but the police in this country are absolutely amazing people. mr. kasich: david, david... david: i do want to ask governor kasich? mr. kasich: i wanted i wanted to say, look, this there can be a win-win here. i have formed a collaborative between police and community leaders because people have to respect law enforcement.
a family doesn't want dad or mom going home in a box. and for our community leaders, many of them think the system not only works not only doesn't work for them, but it works against them. and i created a big collaborative in ohio made up of law enforcement, community leaders, the head of my public safety and a former democrat, liberal senate senator nina turner, run it. they got together, they made recommendations on recruiting, on hiring, on the use of deadly force and what we're about to do is to bring community and police together so we can have a win-win. we need more win-wins in america and we don't have to pick one over another divide. we love the police, but we've got to be responsible to the people in the community. we have to do all of that. [applause] david: governor, thank you. senator rubio, i want to ask you next, president obama visited a mosque this week in america for the first time in his presidency. president george w. bush visited a mosque after september 11th. you said of president obama, quote, "he's always pitting people against each other." so i'm curious, how are the two visits different, and would you
visit a mosque as president? mr. rubio: i would. but that's not the issue my problem with what he did is he continues to put out this fiction that there's widespread systematic discrimination against muslim americans. first of all, let's recognize this. if you go to a national cemetery in this country, you will see stars of davids and crosses, but you see crescent moons. there are brave men and women who happen to be muslim americans who are serving this country in uniform and who have died in the service of this country. and we recognize that and we honor that. but by the same token, we face a very significant threat of home grown violent extremism. we need to have strong, positive relationships in the islamic communities in this country so they will identify and report this activity, especially mosques, for example, that are participating not just in hate speech, but inciting violence and taking acts against us. and i do believe it is important also to recognize, you want to talk about religious discrimination in america. well, i don't think barack obama is being sued by any islamic groups, but he is being sued by the little sisters of the poor. we are facing in this country
christian groups and groups that hold traditional values who feel and in fact are being discriminated against by the laws of this country that try to force them to vie to violate their conscience. [applause] david: senator rubio, thank you. martha? martha: governor christie, earlier this week, the world health organization declared the zika virus a global emergency. the same kind of mosquitoes that carry the zika virus in latin america are found here in the united states, and the virus has been linked to severe birth defects. governor christie, at the peak of the ebola outbreak in west africa, you ordered an american nurse who landed at newark airport be detained and quarantined. as fear spreads now of the zika virus and with the rio olympics just months away, is there a scenario where you would quarantine people traveling back from brazil to prevent the spread in the united states? mr. christie: you bet i would. and the fact is that because i took strong action to make sure that anyone who was showing symptoms remember what happened with that nurse.
she was showing symptoms and coming back from a place that had the ebola virus active and she had been treating patients. this was not just some like, we picked up her just for the heck of it, alright? we did it because she was showing symptoms, and the fact is that's the way we should make these decision. you make these decisions based upon the symptoms, the medicine, and the law. we quarantined her, she turned out to test negative ultimately after 48 hours, and we released her back to the state of maine. but, i want to add something on the issue of mosques. now, i'm the only one up here who's had a law enforcement background as a u.s. attorney after september 11th. i went to mosques throughout my state to build bridges. to build bridges between our community in law enforcement so we can get intelligence and information from these folks. i've had the experience of working with them as governor of new jersey as well. we cannot mix the radical islamic jihadist with everyday muslim-americans. new jersey is the second largest muslim- american population in america, of any state. these are good, law abiding, hard working people. what they need is our
cooperation, and our understanding. they do not just need broadsides against them because of the religious faith they practice. martha: governor christie, thank you. [applause] i'm going to move to dr. carson, and go back to the zika virus, is that going too far, quarantining? you're a doctor, what would you do? dr. carson: well, you know, it's not a simple issue, and now, you know, we've gotten evidence that there can been active viruses in other bodily fluids like saliva and urine. so, this is going to be, obviously, a big deal. do we quarantine people? if we have evidence that they are infected, and that there is evidence that that infection can spread by something that they're doing, yes. but, just willy-nilly going out and quarantining a bunch of people because they've been to brazil, i don't believe that that's going to work. what we really need to be thinking about is how do we get this disease under control? and this is where we need rapid
response. we need a rapid response for ebola, we need rapid response for zika, there will be other things that will come up. these are the kinds of things that the nih, the cdc, can be very effective in. we need to give the the appropriate support for those kind of things. martha: thanks very much, dr. carson. i want to move on to the military. senator rubio, all restrictions on women in combat as long as they qualify. positions including special operations forces, like navy seals. just this week military leaders of the army and marine corps said that they believed young women, just as young men are required to do, should sign up for selective service in case the draft is reinstated. many of you have young daughters. senator rubio, should young women be required to sign up for selective service in case of a national emergency? mr. rubio: first, let me say there are already women today serving in roles that are like
combat. that, in fact, whose lives are in very serious danger, and so i have no problem whatsoever with people of either gender serving in combat so long as the minimum requirements necessary to do the job are not compromised. but, i support that, and obviously now that that is the case i do believe that selective service should be opened up for both men and women in case a draft is ever instituted. i think the more fundamental challenge we're now facing is what's happening to the u.s. military i've said this many times, and i think it's important to start paying attention to this. our air force is about to be the smallest it's been in 100 years. i'm sorry, in our history. our army is set to be smaller than it's been since the second world war, and our navy is about to be the smallest than it's been in 100 years. i think we need to begin to refocus on rebuilding our military because every time we have cut our military in the history of this country we have had to come back later and rebuild it, and it costs more, and it's a lot more chaotic and dangerous. when i'm president, we are rebuilding the u.s. military. [applause] martha: thank you, senator rubio. governor bush, do you believe that young women... mr. bush: ... say it again?
martha: do you believe young women should sign up for selective service, be required to sign up... mr. bush: ... i do, and i do think that we should not impose any kind of political agenda on the military. there should be if women can meet the requirements, the minimum requirements for combat service they ought to have the right to do it. for sure. it ought to be focused on the morale as well. we got to make sure that we have readiness much higher than we do today. we need to eliminate the sequester which is devastating our military. we can't be focusing on the political side of this, we need to realize that our military force is how we project our word in the world. when we're weak militarily it doesn't matter what we say. we can talk about red lines, and isis being the j.v. team, and reset buttons and all this. if we don't have a strong military than no one fears us, and they take actions that are against our national interest. martha: tell me what you'd say to american people out there...[applause]...who are sitting at home, who have daughters, who might worry about those answers, and might worry... mr. bush: ... why would they worry about it...
martha:... if the draft is reinstituted? mr. bush: ... well, the draft's not going to be reinstituted, but why if women are accessing... martha:... are you saying you'd do away with it? mr. bush: no. i didn't say that. you you asked a question not about the draft, you asked about registering. and if women are going to be... martha: you register for the draft. mr. bush: if but... martha: if it's reinstituted. mr. bush: ... we don't have a draft. i'm not suggesting we have a draft. what i'm suggesting is that we ought to have readiness being the first priority of our military, and secondly, that we make sure that the morale is high. and right now, neither one of those are acceptable because we've been gutting the military budget. we also need to reform our procurement process. we need to make sure there are more men and women in uniform than people than civilians in our defense department. there's a lot of things that we need to reform to bring our defense capabilities into the 21st century and i'm the guy that could do that. that's why i have the support of generals, of admirals, of 12 medal of honor recipients and many other people that know that i would be a steady commander-in-chief and rebuild our military. [applause] mr. christie: martha?
martha: thank you very much. mr. christie: can i can i be really can i be really clear on this, because i am the father of two daughters. one of them is here tonight. what my wife and i have taught our daughters right from the beginning, that their sense of self-worth, their sense of value, their sense of what they want to do with their life comes not from the outside, but comes from within. and if a young woman in this country wants to go and fight to defend their country, she should be permitted to do so. part of that also needs to be part of a greater effort in this country, and so there's no reason why one young women should be discriminated against from registering for the selective service. the fact is, we need to be a party and a people that makes sure that our women in this country understand anything they can dream, anything that they want to aspire to, they can do. that's the way we raised our daughters and that's what we should aspire to as president for all of the women in our country. [applause] martha: thank you very much, governor christie. carson: can i say something... martha: we just covered wait one second, dr. carson. carson: something about the draft. very quickly. martha: very quickly. carson: you know, 14 percent decrease in the number of people applying for voluntary military
service, and i think part of it is because of the way that we treat our veterans. you know, we wouldn't be a free country if it wasn't for them, and we have 22 veterans per day committing suicide. so, i think what we should do is have an external support system for people once they volunteer and it should follow them throughout their career, should follow them for three years, five years afterwards, a year before they get out, should be working on integrating them back into society, so that they quit on friday and they start their new job. they should have health empowerment accounts that are subsidized so they can go to any medical facility and be taken care of. they can go to a v.a. if they want to. but if we start taking care of our veterans the right way, we won't have to ever worry about a draft again. [applause] martha: thank you very much for bringing up that subject, dr. carson, of our veterans. and for another question about our veterans, we go back to josh mcelveen from wmur. josh?
josh: thank you, martha. none of you on stage tonight have ever worn a uniform as a member of the armed services. that's the reality of it. but as commander-in-chief, you'll also be charged with the care of 23 million active duty service members and veterans in this country. some have suggested privatizing the v.a. as a way to enhance care and increase the quality of the care and access. others say that veterans should carry i.d. cards that allow them access to any hospital or health care provider. governor bush, what specifically would you do to ensure that those who have sacrificed for us are cared for? mr. bush: i totally agree that we need to give veterans more choices. a veterans card to be able to go to a private provider will enhance the quality of the service inside the department of veterans affairs. we need career civil service reform. only three people were fired after waiting lists were dropped where veterans didn't get care and people died. it is outrageous. and hillary clinton says that that's acceptable? because she is captive of the public service uniforms. career civil service reform would allow the next president to fire people that are that are showing sheer incompetence.
at a town hall meeting today, someone came told a story of their father who looked like he was 85. he had he got a bill eight years later from an operation he had, eight years it took. they couldn't resolve the dispute and then he was told that he died. literally, the veterans administration sent a death certificate to this guy and it took nine months to clarify the guy i met him. he's voting for me. and he is likely to be alive. [laughter] [applause] this is this is outrageous. it is completely outrageous. so, giving veterans more choices, creating centers of excellence, focusing on the true problems that exist. dr. carson is completely right. we need to start focusing on this earlier, before they become veterans so that there's a customized plan so people don't fall through the cracks. we can do this, but it's going to require someone who has proven leadership skills to make it happen. [applause] mr. kasich: josh? mcelveen: governor kasich, do
you have a favored approach? mr. kasich: josh, i mean, clearly, when a veteran comes home, they should get health care anywhere they want to go. in our state, which is what we should do in the country, you know, if they drive a truck from kabul to kandahar in afghanistan, we say, you can drive a truck from columbus to cleveland, and you don't have to go get a license. we're going to hand you one. and if you've got expertise in the military, we're going to give you college credit or community college credit for the things that you did for our country. and in addition to that, i'll tell you, one of the biggest things i think has to be done and i would do it as president the pentagon has got to work with the returning soldier, sailor, along with the family, and we they're the most valuable employees in the country. i call them golden employees. everybody wants to hire a veteran. but there is a disconnect between the job openings and the veteran when the veteran comes back. the veteran is a leader. the veteran is strong. the veteran is drug free. there should be no unemployment among veterans. and if the pentagon will work
with the veterans' services agencies all across this country, josh, we can get people jobs and we can get them jobs quickly, get them their health care...[bell rings]...get them their college education. let's lift them. they're the greatest people defending the united states of america and we need to take care of them, and we will. we will. [applause] mcelveen: senator rubio, go ahead? mr. rubio: well, my brother's a veteran. we're very proud of him in our family. he served as a green beret in the 7th special forces from 1968 through 1971. and as part of his training, he jumped out of an airplane and he lost his two front teeth. and for years, he's had to go to get these dental claims. and every times he goes to get one of these dental claims filled, the v.a. asks him, "well, how do we know you lost your teeth in the army? " and he says, "well, it's the only time i ever jumped out of a plane." [laughter] but he's had to fight through this process, and i've watched it firsthand. that's why i'm proud that i worked in a bipartisan way. we passed the v.a. accountability bill that, for the first time, allows us to fire allows the v.a. secretary to fire someone who's not doing a good job, who's a
senior executive. and the governor's right. they've only fired three people up to now. more people will be fired if i'm president. but the portability part of it is incredibly important. veterans should be able to take their v.a. benefits to any hospital or any doctor they want to go to. when i am president of the united states, veterans will be able to take their benefits to any hospital or doctor that they choose. [applause] mcelveen: senator rubio, thanks very much. going to move forward now. david, martha, back to you. david: josh, thank you. i want to turn to a family that new hampshire voters know quite well, and senator cruz, the issue of hostages has been a very real and painful one here in this state. as we all know, james foley was killed. his mother, diane, said our government should be willing to negotiate, arguing that families should also be allowed to raise money for ransom. what would you say to diane foley tonight? should families be allowed to raise money for ransom for their loved ones? mr. cruz: well, look, i recognize it is an agonizing experience when anyone is facing a loved loved member who's been kidnapped. but at the same time, putting in
place legal regimes that encourage the payment of ransom has the effect of putting a bounty on other americans. there is a reason it has been longstanding u.s. policy that we don't negotiate with terrorists, we don't pay ransoms. if you look at what president obama has done over and over again, whether it was the james bergdahl deal, which was absolutely shameful, releasing five senior taliban terrorists to bring bergdahl back, or whether it was this recent deal with iran, where, again, up to 21 terrorists or potential terrorists were were released or not prosecuted in order to bring back four americans, what that does does is it effectively puts a bounty on american servicemen and women serving abroad, on american tourists traveling abroad. and the proper approach...[bell rings]...is a president and commander in chief that defends this country and that goes after
goes after the terrorists, rather than showing them weakness and encouraging them to target more americans. david: senator cruz, thank you. mr. trump, what would you say to diane foley? should families be allowed to raise money for ransom? mr. trump: well, i i know diane foley very well. her husband and these are tremendous people. i spoke for them, i raised a lot of money for the foundation. i fully understand, james, one of that was really the first that we saw, really visually saw it was so horrible. and i will tell you, though, with all of that being said, you can not negotiate this way with terrorists. if you do, you are going to have many, many more james foleys. james foley was a great young man. his parents are incredible people. they've done such a good job, since his since his death. but you just cannot negotiate that way with terrorists, or you're gonna have so many other james foleys. and one thing on the vets during the last debate, i raised $6 million for the vets, and i will tell you something...[applause]...i will tell you that i think nobody
here, nobody on this stage, gets along with the veterans groups in new hampshire better than i do without ball (ph) to sarel (ph) and all of the people that i deal with and these are great people. the one thing that we're not mentioning, there's tremendous fraud, waste and abuse in the veterans administration and if i'm running things, that's going to disappear...[bell rings]...and it's going to disappear quickly. [applause] david: mr. trump, thank you. we want to turn now to social issues and young voters and for the question, from mary katherine. mary catherine ham: thank you : david. senator rubio. one of the lazier pieces of political conventional wisdom is that so-called social issues are hurting republicans with young people. but on the two most prominent social issues, polling with millennials actually moves in different directions. on one hand, it is clear, young people across the political spectrum increasingly favor same sex marriage. however young voters have not moved to the left on abortion. in fact, large numbers of them favor at least some modest restrictions that conservatives have supported. how do you speak to millennials on both these issues, while democrats will inevitable charge
intolerance and extremism? mr. rubio: well, first of all, i don't believe that believing in traditional marriage the way i do makes you a bigot or a hater. it means that you believe that this institution that's been around for millenial is an important cornerstone of society. i respect people that believe differently. but i believe deeply, that marriage should be between one man and one woman. [applause] on the issue of life, to me, the issue of life is not a political issue. it's a human rights issue and it's a difficult issue, because it puts in conflict two competing rights. on the one hand is the right of a woman to choose what to do with her body which is a real right. and on the other hand is the right of an unborn human child to live. and they're in conflict. and as a policy maker, i must choose which one of these two sides takes precedence. and i have chosen to err on the side of life. here's what i find outrageous. there has been five democratic debates. the media has not asked them a
single question on abortion and on abortion, the democrats are extremists. why doesn't the media ask hillary clinton why she believes that all abortion should be legal, even on the due date of that unborn child.
why don't they ask hillary clinton why she believe that partial- birth abortion, which is a gruesome procedure that has been outlawed in this country, she thinks that's a fundamental right. they are the extremists...[bell rings]...when it comes to the issue of abortion and i can't wait to expose them in a general election. [applause] ham: governor bush? i want to come to you. your allies have recently attacked senator rubio for being too pro-life to be elected in november. you made a similar charge stating it in an interview. this is a pro-life party. do you stand behind that criticism? mr. bush: look, i'm pro-life. in fact, on this stage, i'm the most pro-life person because i've acted on it for eight years as governor of the state of florida. [applause] where we abolished partial-birth abortion, where parents have the right to be notified when their teenage child is having an abortion. we were the
first state to do a choose life license plate to raise money for adoption. we were the first state to have state monies go to crisis pregnancy centers, which recently was just increased to
$4 million a year. we created greater regulation on abortion clinics, where there were horrific procedures. so i'm pro life, but i believe there should be exceptions: rape, incest and when the life of the mother is in danger. and so, that belief, and my consistency on this, makes me, i think, poised to be in the right place, the sweet spot for a republican nominee. and others may have a different view and i respect it. [applause] mr. bush: but i think we have to be cognizant of the fact there's a lot of people that are concerned about having a pro-life position without any exceptions. [applause] mr. rubio: i do support protection for the life of the mother because i'm pro-life. i just believe deeply that all human life is worthy of protection of our laws. if i'm president and there's a bill that's passed that saves lives but it has exceptions, i'll sign it. but i do believe deeply that all human life is worthy of the protection of laws. i've already said, for me, the issue of life is not a political issue and i want to be frank. i would rather lose an election than be wrong on the issue of life.
[applause] ham: governor christie. you too, have talked about senator rubio's position on the life issue. some conservative activists have called this line of attack harmful to the pro-life cause. mr. christie: well, i've been pretty helpful to the pro-life cause in one of the most pro-choice states in the union. i've stood up for the first time and now for the last six years we've de-funded planned parenthood, not talked about it like they do in washington d.c. but for six years as governor, planned parenthood does not receive that funding from the state budget anymore; over $50 million worth of money that's been saved now, that is not going to do exactly what hillary clinton wants to have done and has advocated for. she believes that organization, which engages in the systematic murder of children in the womb, in order to maximize the value of their body parts for sale on the open market, is an acceptable position. let me tell you something, i don't care if you are a millennial or whether you are in your 90s, no one is for that type of activity, unless you are the most radical type of extremist on this issue, like
senator clinton and her party is on this issue. i'll say one other thing. the fact is, that i believe that if a woman has been raped, that is a birth and a pregnancy that she should be able to terminate. if she is the victim of incest this is not a woman's choice. this is a woman being violated. and the fact is that we have always has believed, as has ronald reagan, that we have self-defense for women who have been raped and impregnated because of it, or the subject of incest and been impregnated for it. that woman should not have to deliver that child if they believe that violation is now an act of self-defense by terminating that pregnancy. >> thank you. senator marco? >> will have closing statements and just a moment. a quick lightning round. off -- you will win in the super bowl? >> carolina is going to win that
one. >> governor bush? manning iseyton supporting me, so he will win. [laughter] >> mr. trump? donald trump: carolina. ben carson: i will predict the winner, either denver or carolina. [laughter] >> the last word? chris christie: denver. >> closing statements in just a few minutes. anselm from saint college in new hampshire, here is david and mary. we welcome be back, new hampshire primary is tuesday. we begin tonight with governor kasich. john kasich: i have done over 100 town hall meetings. i have loved every second of it.
it has been the greatest thing in the world. i want you to know that you have changed me because i listened to your stories and i have had your hugs. i have seen your tears. i have seen you walk away and say i now have hope. i have a conservative message, but a positive message, not just a conservative message but a positive message about how we can be together. how we can restore america's strength. [bell rings] new hampshire, give me the chance to carry this message forward to united states of america, and then i will come back. thank you, i loved it, and god bless you. [applause] governor christie. chris christie: thank you. i have spent the last 13 years ,f my life focused on one thing serving the people who have given me the opportunity to serve them. not about politics, not
partisanship, but about putting the people of my state and our country first. inm proud to serve them fighting the war on terrorism since september 11. mym glad to have helped state rebuild after hurricane sandy. i am proud to be on the stage with these men, asking for your vote. new hampshire, you have gotten to know my heart. i want to help you solve the problems of your state and the nation. if you give me your vote, i will do just that. [applause] jeb bush: i want to thank the people of new hampshire and celebrate the birthday of ronald reagan, who would have been 105 today. [applause] he believed in the future of the greatness of the country, had a hopeful, optimistic message. we need someone with a proven record to take our case to the american people. our philosophy is by far and
, limitedbest one government, these through strength. i believe i have the skill to take the party to victory in november. i asked for your support to make america stronger and greater. thank you all very much. [applause] >> dr. carson. months, thefor many political clash, pendants, the media have tried to ignore or bury me. they say that politics is too complex and too sleazy. you can't survive. guess what? i am still here, and i am not going anyplace either. i believe there is still a place in our country for faith, integrity, and common sense. hundreds of thousands of you drafted me to run for president. [bell rings] and i am going to, with the help
of god, place the american people at the pinnacle with the government there to serve them. [applause] >> senator rubio. marco rubio: this week, i had the great pleasure of letting mike kids join the on the campaign trail. i had not seen in a while, and it was great to have them. it reminded me of what is at stake. here in new hampshire, and less than 72 hours, we are literally deciding what country we will be like when they are my age. what kind of country they will be able to raise their family in. that is why i am asking for your vote. vote for me, we will unite this party, build the conservative movement, defeat hillary clinton and leave america where we left off, -- [bell rings] the single greatest nation in the history of men. thank you. [applause] every candidate
running for washington says they will stand up to washington. when will you? i campaigned in the state of iowa against the mandate, something everyone says was political suicide. my leading competitors both attacked me for it. the governor of the state said vote for anyone but cruz, and lobbyists spent millions of dollars in attack ads, but i said we should have no mandate, a level playing field, and the people of iowa and the country and children put us above cronyism. to theet back constitution, i will always stand with the american people against the bipartisan reduction of washington. [applause] >> mr. trump. donald trump: that is because we got ben carson's votes by the way. [booing] donald trump: our country that
we love so much does not win anymore. we don't win with the military, we don't win with the border. get at new hampshire with its terminus problem with heroin, and i've developed such relationships with these people. we don't win with health care or trade. look at what other countries are doing, china, everyone. they are killing us in trade. if i have elected president, we , and we and we will win will win. thank you, thank you very much. >> thank you to all of the candidates. >> after the debate, several debaters spoke backstage and what is commonly known as the spin room. this is 40 minutes. >> the hardest place for me in the debates is for people to see me like the town hall, they see me laugh and talk to them and my feelings and everything. i felt like tonight they got a better side of me, and i got to
roll things out, i am very happy . we are going to do really, really well. to south carolina and all over the country. i am really happy. >> [indiscernible] do you think voters in new hampshire can boost you over the other candidates? john kasich: i am not an establishment candidate. i am in my own lane. i push people to make reform and get things done. i think this is an important elements. what matters more than debate is the people out knocking on the doors, all the things you've done in the 100 town hall meetings. you build a campaign from the ground up, and it is billed -- built on the granite, like the granite state. it is not built on sand. >> [indiscernible] i had anch: opportunity to talk about what i did in the first 100 days. i liked it all.
i felt people had a good chance to see who i am. that is important to me. >> who do you think had a bad night? john kasich: i will not say that. i have been positive all the way. i will not blow it with you standing in this hall. >> so who one? -- won? john kasich: i won't say that. i will let you decide. --we have seven or k-6 governor kasich joining us live. i think we are a little better than third. >> you are telling us how it is going to close in new hampshire. john kasich: we do what we have been doing. we have an army of people, we will knock on every door in the state, continue to do town halls and masses amounts of media. -- massive amounts of media. it is not really think of
matters, but we had a good night. >> if something were to change the next couple of days, where do you think you will go on? john kasich: we are going to be just fine. >> [indiscernible] why do you think they will turn out for you? john kasich: i have never been the established candidates, but i am not antiestablishment. i know how to bring people together and i have a positive message. people like the fact that i have been positive. my commercials are positive, and my mission is hope and opportunity. think republicans should go at each other's throats like that on stage? john kasich: i think we will do well when i -- i'm extremely happy and so is everybody. in the after debate party rim, people are going crazy.
we have so many volunteers that will keep knocking on doors. snow, rain, it does not matter. we will have a great night on tuesday. we will see you all then. >> you think you have a lot of momentum? john kasich: yes. it is driven by people. i will tell you something. all the press says how can you win by being talkative? if we can get out of here with a strong finish, you will talking about the positive politics. it will be a very interesting story. >> you have done this before. people might not remember, you ran for president a long time ago. how is it different? john kasich: i was at a house party, i talked this lady for 15 minutes. she said wendy zynga candidate is going to get here? when do you think the candidate is going to get here? this has been a fantastic part
of my life. remarkable. i am a happy man. we all are. traveling around, we have a great time. new hampshire, we need you, please. say you. you. e >> [indiscernible] thank you for joining us. let's start with you on msnbc. trump, we are live right now. how do you feel about your performance? donald trump: everybody is treating that -- tweeting that trump on the evening. i think very well. >> [indiscernible] donald trump: i love defending the police. i love defending the vets, telling it like it is in the vets.
a lot of good moments. i think it was a really good debate. [indiscernible] >> tell me about the eminent domain when you are asked about that. donald trump: i was so happy that question came out. you would not have roads, sales, foolish people keep talking about eminent domain. you would not have it. you talk about eminent domain, but they must in the -- mentioned the keystone pipeline. of would not have one foot these don't if not for eminent domain. people need to go and find at what that means and how to use it. it is not a question of whether i run or not. we need it for a country. >> got a little bit of jeb bush. do think he came off ok but order --? donald trump: he wanted to show
he was a tough guy. but he is not a tough guy. how many of your rivals underperformed tonight? -- id trump: i know who don't want to say. you will see. >> besides you, who won the debate tonight? donald trump: i just want to say. i will wait for a couple of them to cool out. it really is. >> let's talk about new hampshire. you have been leading the polls for a while. is this a must win for you? donald trump: i think tonight was very important. you are looking for the clubhouse, you have a lead, and doing well in the debate. just sort of well. i happy about that, if that is the case. >> [indiscernible] to $6 trump: i raised
million for the veterans. if anyone said you had to do it again, i said i would do the same thing. in one hour, i raised $6 million for veterans all over the country. i would take it exactly the way it turned out, raising $6 million for veterans. >> if you were second or third, would that be a possibility? donald trump: everybody is saying i won the debate. many of your friends are saying i won easily. i don't know if you are, but they are all saying it. hopefully [indiscernible] >> what about your message is resonating with people in new hampshire? donald trump: it very different. people want protection, border security, a stop to drugs and heroin. i know about it, there is nobody more cognizant than me. two people mention the wall. where was the wall?
if i'm president, that wall will go so fast it will be such a powerful wall. people are talking about senator ted cruz. you still see him as her biggest threat? donald trump: [indiscernible] >> you consider him a threat at all? donald trump: he is very special rate he said when he might have said. >> mr. trump is joining us now. mr. trump, we are live on cnn. trump, you are much more disciplines. are you trying to show that cited yourself for new hampshire -- side of yourself for new hampshire? donald trump: it was really a good debate. i was really happy with my performance. in the world of the sphere, they are all saying i won, so i am happy. i did well. it was a lot of fun. >> [indiscernible]
donald trump: i have a lead. i don't know -- i really did well. >> you got a little burnt in the polls in iowa. donald trump: you get burned by the fact that ben carson lost a lot of votes. you go over to another person that one iowa. -- won iowa. >> do you feel like you have a --ital -- double-digit lead how close are they? it is different in new hampshire because you do not have the caucus system. but i think we are going to do well. i've had a relationship with new hampshire. i think it will go well. it was really important tonight to do well in the debate. >> you said after iowa you could have done better.
how confident are you? donald trump: i spent a lot of money in ground pay. it is more important in new hampshire, people need to like you and go out and vote. not so much of the ground team. the debate was more important than the ground team. >> are you surprised your rivals to not go up against you? jeb was the only one. donald trump: ted cruz, will you say that now, i appreciated he did not do that. and jeb try to go, but jeff is easy. >> marco rubio gave the same response over and over. donald trump: he was scripted. i don't know what happened. he said new hampshire the fourth time -- [indiscernible] about president obama. really enjoyed
the debate, it is getting high reviews. it is an honor to me to have been involved. >> [indiscernible] donald trump: i don't know, who knows? they are all very smart people. i look at all of them as my competitor. >> do you think that is something [indiscernible] donald trump: i am so happy to answer that question. what are wonderful thing for a country, he would not have schools, roads, you would not have anything. fortune.you a donald trump likes eminent domain. i don't like it. they also say i take it. .t is called taking people don't realize -- you don't just take it, they pay. if you are smart you will get much more for the value. >> one of the things with marco
rubio on abortion [indiscernible] do you think [indiscernible] donald trump: he said no exceptions. i do believe in exceptions are you i thought it was a tough question for him. i am not sure what his answer was because he actually didn't talk about the exceptions when he came back. sort of an indicator. i have the ronald reagan -- ronald reagan believed in pro-life. >> have you made any changes to your staff? donald trump: i came in second, 17 people started. i wasthe first election ever involved in, and i became second. all you have to do is take away the ben carson. i am not blaming cnn.
[indiscernible] you also came out with a tweet a minute later. you take a way those thousands of one of the big shows of the study, bill o'reilly, he says that does not happen, trump would probably have one. it is for both her person. per person.s i hope you had a good time. >> we are going to keep going back to iowa. donald trump: you are asking me the questions. i don't care about it. want to win new hampshire. we are going to do very well. >> you talked about marcos crew be a -- marco rubio being scripted. donald trump: i actually said, let's blame cnn again.
[speaking simultaneously] donald trump: that is your decision not mine. you have to ask him. [speaking simultaneously] donald trump: the tickets were all, we picked up the tickets there weren't any. , andonors were supporting in particular there were a couple of people even if they gave a bad answer, they got it wrong. >> [indiscernible] >> ted cruz is beaten up on you all week. are you surprised he did not do
what he is doing, he wants to behind, andd from he has done all of those things. america's economy, in my view, taxes, spending, massive amount of debt, overregulation, huge damage. >> do you think president obama [indiscernible] ted cruz: he wanted to diminish american influence around the world and make america look more like a european country. >> [indiscernible] ted cruz: i am telling you what i think. it has been to diminish american influence around the world and to turn america into something that more closely resembles american -- european welfare state. s. that is what the president thinks. i don't agree. >> speaking of president, marco
rubio was on twitter [indiscernible] retreating back into the comments about mr. obama. do you think that is a characterization of what that is? ted cruz: it is a superficial observation. for voters, i think they are actually going to be impressed by the nature of the threat thates, how to confront it marco laid out. his national security is head and shoulders over the rest of the deal. that is the kind of things voters want to hear. anything that will keep me and my family safe. agreeld you [indiscernible] he was under fire from chris christie. ted cruz: so what? the important thing is what is
his message? [indiscernible] ted cruz: will make sure he is not around. >> [indiscernible] ted cruz: i don't want to speak for marco. he has made it very, very clear. the writing [indiscernible] >> in the debate [indiscernible] ted cruz: no, i wasn't. >> [indiscernible] what do you knew -- need to do to win it back?
strength on tuesday, -- this is a three way race. -- talking heads might get all of the repetition of a phrase. about care much more substance. usual -- rubio, as >> hello. good to see you. what is the big picture your getting? it is not just trump, other people are maturing in their candidacy? ted cruz: i think a lot of candidates are doing incredibly well in new hampshire. all of them could do well. new hampshire is very likely -- [indiscernible] >> did trump [indiscernible]
ted cruz: he underperformed in iowa. he has got a very big lead in new hampshire. i don't know if he will win as much as he thinks he is going to win. he is the weakest. >> you are up for reelection, you are not really worried whether trump will be the nominee. ted cruz: i think marco rubio will be the nominee. >> your not worried about trump? ted cruz: he has a strong fight for the nomination. he will fight. i feel very good about it. >> [indiscernible] its funny, i remember being in iowa, running in 2010, taking on comments for
republican senator, marco rubio taking on an incumbent republican senator -- >> everybody was talking about established officials, getting behind trump. it seems to be a sea change in that respect. ted cruz: last week, martin.owa, to call [indiscernible] rubio? re supporting are you commenting on his performance, do you agree with that? already think the media will talk about the weekly ride? tend to: talking heads obsess about things that are not
necessarily important to voters. voters care about subsidies. especially on the exchange about isis and national security. marco rubio is headed shoulders above the field. i think that is with the voters are going to take away. >> there is one section in the debate, probably not going to get picked up, but a comment about millennial. which ones will fit into millennial's. that is the areas where marco rubio seems to be the quite strongest. ted cruz: i think it is appealing on a number of levels. his age makes it appealing to millennial's. he can relate to younger voters certainly better than hillary clinton or bernie sanders is going to. he is forward-looking on a number of issues important to them. he is really well-developed on higher education, which is
certainly really important to millennial voters. he has got a really good message. >> how do you think his social media campaign compared to the other candidates? ted cruz: i am not following social media campaigns. i do have a campaign of my own. i believe that for others. say your name one more time? >> absolutely. that heo you think handled it? >> this was no surprise that the governor defends for all he is done on tuesday. , and they did marco rubio just fine. even the exchange substance of marco's point was exactly correct, which was the fact that barack obama when he was a
senator did not make him ineffective. his agenda,tive and but the problem was the agenda. i think marco is right about that. voters will be focused on that. can't break away from this. can you comment on that? >> i don't think voters can get out of that. i don't think that is what voters are thinking. there are good check-level questions. to keep me in my family safe and secure. is the president that can keep the family and the economy happy? [indiscernible]
>> if john mccain had been in this race, you could not get in the news. if you had robbed the bank, they would say donald trump and john mccain. [laughter] donald trump, jeff keeps taking him on. , he was the big winner in everyone's eyes. he will be the big, tough winner. ready. he is steady and --can you comment [indiscernible] what do you think of his attack on marco rubio? marco,ink it really was and i like marco rubio.
when you look at what he has done, i have been there. jeb does have changes you can make to the country. record. there is nothing bad about being in the senate. i think i have accomplished a lot. when you look at what we have done, i think rubio [indiscernible] there are good people. sayse clinton campaign [indiscernible] creating jobs, working in
the private sector. i love chris christie, i think he did a great job tonight. but i think jeb bush has to record thatervative includes education. i know this. that all the governor has about south carolina, [indiscernible] when it comes to senator [indiscernible] i think we don't elect debbie sanders. trump is not a positive man. ted cruz is not a problem-solving person. we need a positive message, which is important, and you get
to show education. this is the anniversary of ronald reagan. one thing i can tell people in south carolina, jeb bush has got a front row seat. in thereagan and bush borders, and jeb bush is prepared to be commander in chief on day one. john kasich wants to cut the military. he is counting another round of brass. one thing you need to do is closing that. we do and that. jeb can go to south carolina, say i am ready to be commander in chief better than anybody on that stage. , rubio about the attack said in leaving bush alone? >> was people in new hampshire are glad somebody is saying that, because i am getting tired of the guy. he makes policy jim risch, making it harder to win
the war. sayinglitary people are they don't support what trump would do. exposed donald trump for the hypocrites that he is. when i'm talking about building a gas line, we are talking about moving this lady's house so you can park a limo. trump is a big whiner, and he seemed really whiny tonight. >> he also seemed low energy. car think he got hit by a in iowa and he is just try to wake up. he can't believe he did not win. he can't believe everybody doesn't cheer every time he says something. it will only get worse for the donald over time. the morsi asks, the more people challenge him, i understand.
the lesson you want to do is tell people we are going to ban you. that can fly a radical muslims. donald trump has no idea of the difference. we must embrace our culture. you are the enemy. we are stronger if we don't let you in. john mccain can tell donald trump about intelligence gathering and how to win the war, which he did. donald said to [indiscernible] you have officiated a long part of the debate. why did the democrat debate not have that kind of energy? >> bernie sanders spent 15 minutes on it. he is a fine man.
he will be a disastrous commander in chief. bernie sanders has no foreign-policy experience. hillary can't challenge the president foreign policy because she is a part of his administration. the problem with talking about foreign policy is when you realize what is happening, not working, they can't give you an alternative because they run home to the democratic debate. thaterson who believes park followed policy is on track is not watching the news. >> what you hear from foreign allies about donald trump as a commander in chief? >> our allies are wondering what the hell you are doing. the king said, is this guy for real? jordan said it, is this guy for real? we don't chop people's hands off, we don't torture people.
that makes us that are. we go to the leaders of the military. anyone who is served in a military, we ask if they agree with what donald trump says about what way we conduct ourselves. , i amllies are wondering telling them we will figure this out, don't worry. >> [indiscernible] he took it hard. is that a problem? >> i think those who care are those that watch the debate in new hampshire. a stronger chris christie [indiscernible] >> i think chris did well tonight. he will go to new hampshire and look for somebody [indiscernible] bushe end of the day, jeb
will do really well in south carolina. jeb is a betting nature. it looked likeut three governors were teaming up on the senator. >> and look like a really good night for the governor. i should say a better night for senators. people that got momentum out of , others did not take it very well. john kasich is a fine man. trust me, don't get closer to more military bases. john kasich is stuck in the 90's. we are getting the military. john kasich is talking about closing bases. that will go well here. -- not go well here.
in my part of the world, this is not going to sell. >> [indiscernible] beyondt move [indiscernible] is that like marco rubio you have seen in the senate? all i can say, i like marco rubio, but i don't think he can be president. i've seen it in action, i worked with him on bills. he does a good job as editor. the americant people that rejected that bill. i am for the bill, john mccain is for the bill. >> [indiscernible] finger --t a [indiscernible] >> number one, it was his bill. we did not find it in the parking lot. we all wrote it. all i can say, i still believe
in the bill. it will become law. >> senator rubio will go with you and john mccain to the house and make a bill. >> that is right. you were known as one of the better debaters. measure up to the lindsey graham standards? >> [indiscernible] is the for jeb tonight background and experience and just being relaxed with the idea. knowing thatsleep jeb's president tomorrow, i would sleep well. >> is marco rubio one of those guys? >> i think he is going to be very competitive in his lane for governor. willeople of new hampshire give him momentum. south carolina is a push back.
he is got to be competitive here. i will promise you this, john kasich is good, chris christie is good. jeb will play better. >> [indiscernible] of lettingtired these guys get so worried about donald and then going crazy. the people of new hampshire are loving this. be presidenting to of united states, you need to tell donald trump on occasion, donald, you are crazy. he is the biggest hypocrite in the world. we are not talking about building a pipeline. we are talking about taking a lady's house and parking his limo. and jeb called him out on it. >> even senator cruz really punched on that. >> all i can say about senator cruz as that seven people of their, and nobody else thought that ben carson was getting out of the race.
cruz doings something he has got to apologize for. after a while he will figure it out. cruz,ttom line about ted and he is trying to be libertarian, yet he embraces torture. waterboarding is outlawed. ,e should not go down that road it will not win the war. he starts talking about this, and people are clamoring for he can do whatever he wants to do. >> [indiscernible] ben carson: a big explosion on social media.
>> what are you going to do to encourage [indiscernible] ben carson: i would encourage the youth [indiscernible] because it sets your future. over $200 trillion of your generation and multiple generations after you will be responsible and it will continue to grow. irresponsible fiscal policy. understand, each generation since the first one, they do worse than their parents. it is going to be a lost cause for america. i feel that young people have to be the ones who are protesting because otherwise my generation, they don't care. [laughter]
>> i am very involved in politics. when your advice be to someone who is hoping to run in the presidential campaign? ben carson: maintain your integrity. do not give it away. thank you. >> dr. carson, can you come over here please? announcer: c-span recently spoke with three students at saint and some college to get there thoughts on the campaign. this is from washington journal. >> at the new hampshire institute of politics at saint anselm college, we have three students who are republicans to talk about their interest in politics. we are talking to emily pine, madison michael's, joe alexander.
why are interested in politics? >> when i was younger, my mom rought me to the voting booth to vote for john mccain. i've always been interested. >> what are you looking forward to in the primary? >> want to see how the voting goes through in new hampshire. i am from new york. it should be interesting because new york is blue, and new hampshire can be critical, it can go either way. i am looking forward to seeing how it can be. >> what is it was important thing for you in this primary? politics, seeing them myself and greeting them. >> why is that most important? >> the media plays a big role in politics, and they can spend a a certain spin statements one way or the other. in new hampshire you can get your own -- they are real words. >> you have a candidate?
>> i don't have a candidate yet. i like john kasich. i like any of the three governors, casing, christie, or bush. i am fan of the moderate establishment. >> do you? >> i have endorsed chris christie. i am an intern on his campaign. >> why him? >> the work he has done in new jersey is wonderful. he is a great governor. i have known the effect of hurricane sandy first hand. if we had the work done on long island in new york that he had done in new jersey, my family and others would have done better. >> so one does have a candidate, one does not. and you? >> i like jeb bush, not chris christie. >> why so? >> he is the best one to lead day one.
he needs to be the commander in chief. i also like chris christie because of his attitude. he will say what he believes if you agree with that, that is great. he wants you to. but he will not change his views based on what you want. >> if you had to tell somebody in so many words why you support republican candidates, what would you say? >> we like freedom, we like liberty where, we are against government regulations. i am like, i like people with choices. republicans can give that government. >> same question. my parents raised me republican, so i was born into it. the ideals that surround it, family values, yeah. >> and you? >> i spent eight years as a democrat, and i'm tired of it. >> three students at saint
anselm college. thank you for your time today. announcer: on the next washington journal, the director of suffolk university;s clinical research center on the new hampshire polls and how they did in the primary. supports -- why this man supports donald trump, and the chairman on the discussion of alcohol abuse discusses drug abuse in the state. we you can join the conversation on facebook and twitter. this is 7:00 eastern on c-span. c-span's campaign 2016 is taking you on the road to the white house. >> let's go win. >> thank you, and god bless you. announcer: we bring you speeches. >> thank you, folks. announcer: meet and greets, town halls, and live caucus coverage.
these men is on the ground in new hampshire polling the candidates leading up to the first in the nation primary. live election coverage starts tuesday at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span, c-span radio, and c-span.org. announcer: public and presidential candidate i'll trump was in new hampshire today at plymouth state university. he met with c-span backstage to talk about his campaign and what he would like to accomplish as president. thank you for joining us at limit state university in new hampshire. your campaign slogan, make america great again. when do you think america is at its greatest? donald trump: that is a good question. we had many moments, including the early years. [indiscernible] you have treated us so nicely.
we have had numerous moments of greatness. this is not a high point for america right now. we are not respected like we are supposed to be. we are going to make a great again. i've added a couple. again,ake it greater maybe greater than before. >> how? donald trump: we will bring back jobs from china, nepal, places that have taken our jobs. we are being stripped of our jobs and money. we will build strength in the borders, we will build a wall, not have people pouring in here. we'll take care of the military and the vets. will make the country better than it has been before. >> what you think about this wall? -- how dot going to you asked congress for the money? donald trump: in many ways. there is a great deficit from mexico. so mexico does not have this
right. they do nothing to stop the illegal immigration. because of that, they will face the wall. >> you have incredible of house speaker paul ryan. you say he has compromised, that is our government works. donald trump: you have got to do compromise. the new budget is a disaster. it does everything obama wants and gives the republicans very little. we need to put the republican budget in order. i like paul ryan, but that is not a good deal. >> do you think you have a good relationship with democrats? donald trump: eventually, you have got to get along. i want to make great deals, not bad deals. this is what i do. business and politics is very different. donald trump: but i have been in politics all my life, on the other side. i will be able to get people into a room and be able to make
sure that we get a deal. it is going to be a great deal for us. not these deals that there might be now. >> if you were the 46th residents, how you structure the white house? the decision-making process? donald trump: we of the greatest business making people in the world in this country, and we do not use them. on china, they are making hundreds of billions of dollars. with china, japan, everyone else. over. days are we are going to break even. we are going to change and renegotiate. right there, you talking about tremendous numbers of dollars, and i have thousands of people back here, i have to go. >> what would your father feel about this? donald trump: i think he would
be very proud. my father was a great guy and he had a lot of confidence in me. he will be very proud. >> what has this experience been like for you personally? donald trump: it has been amazing. it has been an incredible experience. i am a builder, and i have jobs to do. >> are you willing to do what it takes to win? ly. ld trump: yes, absolute unlimited. >> how would you change washington? donald trump: by getting the greatest people in this country, and the greatest people in the world, to help me run the country. we will have our businessmen negotiating trade. we'll have the right people doing the military. right now, we don't have that. we have people that should not be negotiating with china. we have political hacks negotiating trade deals. we can't do that. >> thank you very much. have a good time. announcer: you can see that
rally with donald trump in new hampshire at 12:40 a.m. eastern. coverage continues tomorrow with florida governor jeb bush. he is in nashua, new hampshire. then we take you to another rally with donald trump in londonderry, new hampshire. then bernie sanders hold an event interim at 6:00 eastern. all of that life on c-span. announcer: during campaign 2016, c-span takes you on the road to the white house as we follow the candidates on c-span, c-span radio, and c-span.org. announcer: here on c-span, newsmakers is next with cdc irector dr. thomas frieden.
that is followed by marco rubio campaigning in bedford, new hampshire. and then at 8:00, talking with a.se holland on q and announcer: on newsmakers this week, we are joined by dr. tom en. d he joined us from the cdc headquarters in atlanta to help us with our questions. are joined by two reporters. you are up first. this is something that has been dominating headlines the last couple of weeks. many americans are hearing about it for the first time. how concerned are you concerned about what has been happening recently? rieden: last time this
happened, was more than 50 years ago. i am quite concerned about what we can do to protect pregnant women and reduce the number of children born with other publications. -- complications. imperative that we are clear about what could be a problem and what is not. it is a major concern and we understand the anxiety of women who have traveled to places that have the guts spreading or are thinking about traveling to is spreading.ika the key is to focus on the single most important thing, and that is protecting pregnant women to reduce that number of infants who may be born with this potentially devastating fetal malformation. in theconfident are you guidance that the cdc can put out at this moment? the result of situations in which you are not sure exactly how this virus works, how it can