tv Washington Journal CSPAN March 9, 2016 7:00am-10:01am EST
about the republican party of the 2016 campaign. we are going to announce the winners of our student cam documentary contest. you can join the conversation by phone or on facebook and twitter. ♪ good morning everyone. donald trump with wins in michigan, hawaii, and mississippi. he has 15 states under his belt. hillary clinton won in mississippi but suffered a blow in michigan. ted cruz won idaho's contest and bernie sanders one michigan. this morning, we want to begin with who you ar supporting right nowe and if that candidate is not the nominee, how will you vote? democrat -- republicans -- and independents --
you can also send us a tweet or go to facebook.com/c-span. the phone lines are open. you can start dialing in now. people are contemplating trying to stop donald trump and how they do that if he continues to rack up victories. we want to turn to all of you and ask if he is not the nominee or pure candidate, supporting ted cruz or marco rubio is not the nominee, how do you plan to vote? if hillary clinton is the nominee, how do you plan to vote if she is not your candidate? the same for bernie sanders. we want to know what you think. let me show you were the delicate stands right now, because it is all about the math. if you go to our website c-span.org, you can find this constantly being updated. take a look for democrats, hillary clinton has 1221 delegates after las--
yesterday's primary. bernie sanders has 571. 451 are superdelegates for clinton. 25 are superdelegates for bernie sanders. where it stands right now. that means hillary clinton is 11 62 delegates short of the nomination, heading into this tuesday's big primary with four states, florida, ohio being big ones. and bernie sanders is 1812 delegates short. the republican side, donald trump, after winning three states last night, has 458 delegates. 779 away from clinching the nomination. ted cruz has 359, which means he is 878 delegates short, while marco rubio has 151 delegates, over 1000 delegates short. theirall street journal" front page has this headline.
"trump tightened his grip on the gop." let's listen to the front runner from last night. mr. trump: it's actually the biggest thing distort -- the single biggest story in politics today, what is happening at the booth. some of these states are getting one has 102% increase over four years ago. it is amazing. 102%. on average, you're talking about probably more than 50, you are talking about millions and millions of people. whereas the democrats are down 35%. down from what they were. we're up by 50% and even more than that. you are talking about millions of people. i think it is the biggest or in politics today. i hope the republicans will embrace it. don't forget, we have democrats coming over. we have independents coming over and they have not done that ever, probably ever.
with all these people coming over, we are going to have something very special if i win and if i get to go against hillary, polls are saying i beat her. we will take many people away from the democrats, many, many people that normally go democrat as independents. host: that is donald trump from last night in florida after he won three states, that brings his total to 15 states. the washington post, "trump wins saw deceased and the mantle of the party's presumptive nominee as he claims victory tuesday night." if the candidate you are supporting right now does not become the nomine, how will you vote? matt, a democrat. what do you think? who are you supporting? say that again? you broke up. caller: i'm supporting bernie
sanders. host: let's say he is not the nomine, who are you going to vote for? caller: bernie sanders. all i see is that -- [inaudible] host: i apologize. our connection with you is not great. hopefully you can call back in. let's go to george in silver spring, maryland. a republican. who is your candidate? caller: my candidate is marco rubio. i'm still registered in virginia and i did vote for him in the virginia primary. host: if he is not the nominee, what you going to do? caller: most likely, i'm still going to vote republican just as a matter of principle. i just want to stay loyal to the party. this'll be my first time voting in an election. i'm just became a citizen recently. the republicans are not waking up to the rhetoric donald trump is putting out there. but given the choice between
liberal policy and some of the things democrats are proposing, i would not be surprised that people want to vote for trump. i'm a political scientist by trade and i have not been able to find a viable excavation for the appeal of trump, besides affect the people do not look deep into what he is saying. host: are you confident that if donald trump is the nominee, that he will put forth conservative policies, if he wins in the general election? you're confident of that? caller: i can't say i am. the best thing i can hope for is that he will surround himself with people that are competent enough and conservative policy that giving good advice. but otherwise, his record does not show that over the years. there's evidence out thereof of him saying things that are contrary to conservative values. host: right. springa republicans of a
supporting marco rubio but says he will stay true to the party and vote for somebody else, even if it is down to. steve -- even if it is donald trump. steve, an independent. did you participate in the primary yesterday? caller: i voted for donald trump, early voting, absentee voting. very happy. he won michigan. can i tell you why voted for him? host: please. caller: the important thing to me is that he is a self funding his campaign. as he mentioned in his campaign. he has no special interest or lobbyist money. that means he can think for himself. he has a lot of kids and grandkids. in my view, future presidents or senators are congresspeople that could help our country with his viewpoint. that is very positive to me because i'm older. finallying, too, is there someone in, because i
watch politics since i was 10 or 12 years old, and i would call into c-span five years ago -- five months ago, and said i have never seen anything like this. took a political science class in college. he is very different. -- like ronald reagan did. he's entertaining. he is like the person you might work next to. so, i just think, i'm sorry. host: you are an independent. have you voted for democrats in the past? caller: about 70% of the time. host: now you are switching to the -- but leaning now towards the republicans. what if donald trump is not the nominee? caller: i am going to write in donald trump if he does not get the nomination. i feel he should get the nomination. he has the delegates.
you see a lot of b.s. in the news about the party. but there is a change. in our history, things like this happen. things like this happen but slowly the person grows on the party. the party modifies. so, can i say one thing to everyone on c-span land? you are wonderfully what you do. your channel. any voter that has never voted before and who has watched politics like i have. i'm 62. i have never seen a candidate like donald trump ever. i'm serious. you've never voted for other people, i say this a new campaign slogan from mr. trump. get off your rump, vote for trump. seriously. get off your rump and vote trump. host: this is what washington times for together. trumps pans contested gop
convention. while many of the delegates would be bound to vote stays -- based on their states primary, many would be freed up to support a different candidate if no one secures majority on the first quote. that is why mitt romney advocated for all the candidates to state in, so donald trump does not get to the numbers he needs --
that is the way the system works and that is perfectly appropriate, says senator ted cruz as long as the delegates deciding between either hiim or donald trump. seemingmonstrate this difficulty they have of overtaking trump in delegate count as long as they all remain in the race. inis polling ahead of them the republican primary contest but in head-to-head matchups in an nbc/wall street journal trumpmr. kasich and mr. both beat him by 17 points. back to our calls. kevin, in portland, oregon, a democrat. who are you supporting? caller: bernie sanders. host: what if he is not the nominee? caller: i'm not 100% sure.
it's going to be really hard. slight chance may be voting for trump. i'm really anti-hillary. i would also rather not vote or write in bernie sanders. trump wouldote for be more about your vote against tiller clinton. -- against hillary clinton. caller: and against the dnc. i think people are set with the whole process in general this year. host: the superdelegate process? caller: yeah. yeah. i mean, partly. i think people, a lot of people, new people are coming into the process this year and learning about it and learning that a lot years traditions are 100 old and it does not make sense anymore. to figureust, we need out a better way to do it.
but anywa,y, yeah. host: have you voted before? caller: yeah. voted for obama. i'm only 36. but i voted for obama and i vote in local elections here. host: let's listen to the front runner for the democrats, hillary clinton last night. here's what she had to say after she won in mississippi but lost in michigan. mrs. clinton: we need to stand united, trying to divide us between us and them, it's wrong. it goes against our most cherished values. america along stew all of us, not just those who are already successful. i want to be the president, not for those who are already successful. they don't need me. i want to be the president for the struggling and the striving, for people who have a dream and who are looking for a way to achieve that dream.
to resist forces trying to drive us apart, whether they are political forces are economic forces. there are a lot of them out there. they seem to have forgotten what made us great in the first place. you know, america is great. we don't have to make it great. [cheers] we have to make it whole. i mean we have got to get back where we are supporting each other. where we're helping young people get involved in national service. finding ways to give back to our communities. host: that was hillary clinton last night after she won in mississippi but usa today so she was stunned by her loss in michigan. and bernie sanders wins there. the race goes on for him with the momentum coming out of that state. what is behind bernie sanders
win in michigan? males propel sanders and gttrump. this is the year of the angry white voter. the effect was most obvious and watching mr. trump roll up more wins. 23% andp them 43% to lost among women." in mississippi, 41% of republicans describe their feelings towards the federal government as "angry" --
in michigan, perhaps the most interesting angry white males are in the sanders campaign. in michigan, they kept him nearly even with mrs. clinton, offsetting her advantage among women and minorities. het polls among women, finished just behind mrs. clinton. among men he won easily, 54% to 44%. "the new york times" says this about bernie sanders win michigan."
trade and jobs swayed voters outside of detroit. off an upsetulled by traveling to communities far from detroit and by hammering mrs. clinton on an issue that resonated and is still struggling state -- night's primary with the delegate count the way they are, donald trump in the league for republicans spread hillary clinton with a sizable delegate count lead over bernie sanders, we are asking you, what do you think? if your kennedy is not the nominee, how will you vote? let's go to new hampshire, an independent. hi, catherine, good morning. caller: i voted for bernie sanders and i do not know who i
will vote for if he does not get the nomination. if you just give me one minute, i will tell you why. i'm against nafta and tpp. passage of these did not, will not create more livable u.s. jobs. ask yourself, what kind of jobs -- low paying, no vacation, no retirement, temporary $7.25 an hour. unemployment is at 4.9%. what does that mean? there was a time when a certain group of people had zero percent unemployment. say.percent, wo, yow, you all of this group got a cabin and food and worse for no pay. this group was called slavery. that is what the corporations , slavelthy top 1% want labor. work for a hut.
it happened in dickens, england, in the gulags in russia and is happening in north korea. so, i do not know what i will be doing. host: if bernie sanders is not an nominee, catherine, independent in new hampshire, who voted for bernie sanders, said she does not know what she is going to do. in north carolina, democrat. who is your candidate? caller: good morning. my candidate is hillary clinton. host: ok. and -- listening. she has a sizable delegate lead but let's say bernie sanders is the nominee. what would you do? don't: well, i particularly care for him, but i can't think that i would ever vote for republican, so i would vote for bernie. i really hope hillary is out
candidate -- our candidate and i think she would be the best for our country. host: when did you decide to support hillary clinton? -- beenoh, i've done pretty sure for about a couple months. host: ok. all right. bill in pittsburgh, a republican. good morning or you are next. caller: good morning. host: who are you supporting right now? caller: john kasich. host: john kasich says he is going to stay in this race. he'll go all the way to a higher which is tuesday, march 15. go all the way to ohio, which is tuesday, march 15 it he says he is going to win ohio. but after that, he would have to good a lot of money to stay in the race according to one of the papers this morning. he's far behind on the delegate count. if he is not the nominee -- caller: why do you keep doing
this? every time someone besides trum p or anybody who is -- after 17 candidates, only to a three have ever gotten any kind of, uh -- neutral reporting. wasarticle you just read basically saying "ah, he can't do anything. don't worry about him." i'm sorry. this is not what i wanted to say. it infuriates me the way this process has worked out. the press has chosen -- oilur flushing snake salesman as our nominee. i'm so furious at the people like the guy, the guy who call before, who basically are voting
to be entertained. there is no, with donald trump, there is no "there" there. we have no idea what he is going to do. i'm sorry. host: we understand you do not like donald trump. but what if he is the nominee? caller: that is the greatest understatement you have made this morning. host: what do you do? caller: i -- i may, i may not vote. i may vote libertarian. a workingn volunteering republican since election, esidential 1 actually the962 gubernatorial election -- actually the 1962 gubernatorial election. i'm tearing my hair out.
we have no idea what donald trump is going to do, wants to do. we know he is willing to do it. in in elegant words of one syllable. we do what john kasich has done, what there is out there that we need to have done and he can do it. i'm sorry. again, your next question? host: we are listening to you, bill. your background is fascinating. that gives the other people that are listening to contact. you have been part of the republican party in working for it for all these decades and you are frustrated with the way this is playing out. caller: trying, trying to get a situation -- a government that will actually response to what we actuallyo what need to have done in getting out paternalisticthe
way in which government tries to take care of everyone. and we've come so close so many times. and, we're blowing it again. i'm 70 years old. i'd you not know how many more of these things i can go through. host: what did you do for a living or if you are still working, what do you do? caller: i was an attorney. host: you were an attorney. that isbill, a republican in pittsburgh, his candidate is john kasich. let's hear to what the governor had to say. he was back in his home state last night. [video clip] governor kasich: now the home-court advantage is coming north. next week, we are going to win the state of ohio. and i want to thank so many of
you who are -- who have been to new hampshire, living in michigan, going up there. the strength of our team, the intensity of the people and you know why? because it is a positive campaign that lays out a vision for america based on the compliments of the past. we are now moving into a position where the people of america beginning to hear this message -- there's some interesting statistics for the late voters them,higan, about 35% of went for our campaign. another thing you should know is with the contest going forward, the three of us competing for the delegates that remain, we are in a virtual dead heat among those -- [cheering]
governor kasich: to the americans that are watching tonight, they're watching in the u.s. and around the world, it's a great story. we struggled and worked in obscurity for very long time. always believing that once this calendar started to head north, once i had an opportunity with my team to be able to express the message , and is pretty simple -- that we know the three things that matter most our jobs, jobs, jobs. and we know the way to get them, the way to get them is commonsense regulation. so we do not stomp out the success of small business. on individuals and businesses and an ability to finally have some fiscal sense and the united states of america. host: the ohio governor last night in his home state after the primary, the march 8
primary, where he did pretty well in the state of michigan. he was just trailing ted cruz there. donald trump won michigan but and johnwith 25% kasich on it 24%. he kicked up 17 delegates. take a look -- he packed up -- picked up 17 delegates. mississippi, hawaii, he never broke the threshold. he did not take up -- pick up any delegates. trump'sinder of mr. enduring appeal was nothing short of devastating for senator marco rubio. third, mr.pping to rubio collapsed on tuesday. he came away with no delegates in either state and calling into question how much longer he will be able to stay in the face." sandra in massachusetts, independent.
good morning. who is your candidate? did you vote in the primary in massachusetts? caller: no, but i'm going to go for hillary. i was for her, even before obama. thing of it is, it didn't happen then. i think for her, she has got genius behind her, brilliance. the biggest thing is also her husband brought the budget into being when we needed it most, when the republicans stole it away from us. the thing of it is, donald trump, i would go for him, if he never talks like he does. he talks crazy. on top of that, bernie sanders would be my following pick, because i had brilliance. i want brilliance. i don't see it in the other. host: what message do feel that
bernie sanders and hillary clinton share? caller: intelligence. remarks. brilliant thinking, they're just brilliant. no one can see through that, you need to remove that cloud that's over your brain, because they are brilliant. thank you. host: an independent in massachusetts. more about bernie sanders win in michigan. from "the new york times" -- clinton'ss. advantages, the sanders campaign thand -- speaking to more 40,000 people and his campaign opened 13 office and hired 40,0 00 people
slums god, massachusetts. -- swamscott, massachusetts. you do vote in the primary? what do you think about bernie sanders' campaign? if he were to become the nominee , would you be happy with him? caller: yes, i would vote for bernie if hillary did not get in, but hillary is my first choice. i think she is brilliant, and she has a proven record that nobody is more qualified than hillary. nobody ever has been as qualified as hillary, and nobody will be as qualified as hillary. one.ou get two for you get hillary and you get bill. host: are you concerned about the investigation over her e-mail server? caller: it is republican bowl. -- it is republican bull. it is ridiculous.
it happened after she resigned as secretary of state. and if you go to madeleine albright and condoleezza rice, they all did the same thing. it is the gdp trying to muddy her up. i am disappointed when i hear the men calling in, the angry white males in this country that are going to end up getting donald trump in there, and then the fall of rome. as far as i am concerned, donald trump is a modern-day hitler. it will be the ruination of our country. all of the other countries watching us are laughing at us. they cannot believe we would even think of voting for somebody like him. i think he is disgusting. host: that is a democrat in massachusetts. ruthight be interested in marcus' column in "the washington post," "why clinton won't be indicted." she says she has talked about this.
makes it a 18 misdemeanor, a crime for government employee to knowingly remove classified information without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an authorized -- at an unauthorized location. whetherit is debatable her use of the private server constituted removal or retention of material. finally, the aggravating circumstance of self -- of false statements is absent. avenue prosecutorial involves an espionage act making it a felony if a person entrusted with information
related national defense willfully communicates or transmits to an unauthorized person. that might be a stretch given the "willfully" requirement. the argument is that she may have had gross negligence by transmitting information that she knew or should have known, was classified into its proper place on to her private server or by sharing it with someone not authorized to receive it. court has said, gross negligence is a nebulous term. especially the criminal context, it would seem to require conduct more like throwing classified materials into a dumpster." back to calls. jacksonville, florida, a republican. who is your candidate? caller: john kasich from ohio. let's play the game. what if he is not the nominee? what do you think we would do?
vote for donald trump if he is the nominee. host: what if it is senator ted cruz? tooer: i think he is outside the box. nobody in the senate -- he would not win because he is too one-dimensional, in my opinion. host: ok, so then who would you vote for? i would vote for ted cruz if i had to. because i do not want hillary in there because she is the biggest liar we have in the world. host: what if it is bernie sanders as the nominee? would you ever vote for him? caller: no, i would not vote at all then. host: that is jerry in jacksonville, florida, who says he will stay true to his party. if the candidate you are supporting right now is not the
nominee, how do you plan to vote? there are the phone numbers on your screen. you can go to twitter and post your comments there and also facebook.com as well. take a look at what the independent senator from vermont had to say last night. here he is. >> our first fight is to overturn the citizens united decision. fight is to make sure we have one of the highest voter turnouts in the world, not one of the lowest. [applause] our job is to end republican voter suppression. [applause] republicant cowardly governors working overtime trying to make it harder for people to participate in the political process.
job is to make it easier, not harder, to increase the voter turnout. next tuesday here in florida, let's show the world -- [cheers] world thatthe withracy is alive and well a huge voter turnout. huge. host: there was bernie sanders michigan,after he won and he says his campaign will go on. if you are supporting bernie sanders and he is not the nominee, what will you do? that is the question this morning. james republican line, from florida, an independent. good morning. caller: i want to say you have
the best show on c-span in the world. host: thanks for calling in. go ahead and answer the question. us too bernie is telling much. he will not be able to do some us he stuff he is telling will do. our best bet is to go to hillary. host: james, you have to turn the tv down. allen in brooklyn, a democrat. caller: good morning. host: who are you supporting right now? caller: i would support any democrat who is nominated. i have not forgotten the tragic lesson of 2000 when people were so intent on supporting the perfect candidate in the off nadir, that they stayed home and rose what they did not get him, and we ended up losing al gore. bernie sanders is not only running with the right issues, but he is a patriot trying to
thread the needle of asserting his views and teaching the public and raising interest without taking the chance of being a spoiler and wiping out the chances of democrats if he is not the nominee. that is one of the things people admire most about him. support hillary vigorously if she is the nominee, and i think it is possible he may be, and i would like to see that happen. host: your remarks echo what the exit polls found in michigan and other places. democratic primary voters said any candidate -- it either candidate would be acceptable to them. among republicans, divisions are deeper. nearly half the gop voters in michigan would be dissatisfied with trump as the nominee. this from a nationwide nbc news wall street journal poll released yesterday. trump with a narrow 30%-20% lead over ted cruz among likely gop voters, but in hypothetical
head-to-head contests, and majority favored trump's rivals over him. before winners had been declared in the idaho primary and highway hawaiio primary and caucuses tuesday, trump and won 14 of the first 22 nominating contests. -- it is now 15 states for donald trump so far in this nominating contest. if he is not the nominee for the republicans out there supporting him, what do you plan to do? jaclyn is a republican in philadelphia. you are next. who are you supporting? .aller: donald trump the reason i am saying this, he is so refreshing. he talks like me, talks like the guy on the corner, in the barbershop, the hairdresser, and so forth. it is so refreshing. all the other candidates iwatch, i knew my tv to watch the body
line was because i like to do that. they all look like phonies, especially hillary and cruz. not bernie sanders. i am a republican, but i do not -- that ii would vote would not vote for sanders if not for donald trump. he is so refreshing. host: if republicans were to have somebody not donald trump, you would switch and vote for bernie sanders if he is the nominee? caller: maybe hold my nose and vote for bernie sanders, with some of the things he says. i watch tedruz -- cruz, and his body line which looks phony to me when i knew my tv. maybe i would go democrat. maybe i would. i even wrote a song for donald trump. host: go ahead and sing it. caller: oh, see if i remember.
♪ make america great again say america out loud again say merry christmas, ya here's to make america great again vote donald trump for the usa ♪ host: very well done, jaclyn. let me ask you -- if it is ted cruz versus hillary clinton, what do you do? caller: hold my nose and vote for ted cruz. , the lady before me said you get two for one. people are looking for -- people are looking at her husband and voting for hillary because her husband was president at one time. that is what i think. host: dave, from pennsylvania,
an independent caller. caller: i want to say one thing. for the majority of people who do not vote for donald trump, you are actually voting against yourself. i personally do not support donald trump, but i support the movement. donald trump is an opportunity to take this government back from the globalists who are driving this country into the ground. host: who are you supporting, then? caller: i will be voting for donald trump, but there are certain things i do not like about him personally. .he ego is a little bit big i think his biggest problem is he is in -- he is an inarticulate speaker. but i have been on his website and seen his positions, and i would say that i think he is correct on most of the positions. host: what if he is not the nominee? what would you do? what if it is senator ted cruz? caller: ted cruz is a globalist.
i cannot vote for ted cruz. i would probably either not vote or possibly vote for bernie sanders. host: ok. what if it is hillary clinton versus ted cruz? you would stay home? caller: i probably will not be voting. host: have you always voted? caller: i have voted in the last few elections. host: so there have been times when you stayed home before? caller: yes. i voted for ralph nader the one time because i really do not believe in the two-party system and i do not like what they stand for. i do not think there is that much difference between the two parties, and they all serve the same corporations that helped them get elected. i do not think it is a representative government like it is supposed to be. host: is that why you like donald trump? you do not feel like he is part of the republican party? caller: that is the main part of it, yeah. dave from kingston,
pennsylvania, an independent caller. let's listen to ted cruz. he trails in the delegate count, but not by much, behind mr. trump. let me show you this so you can find it on c-span's website. 458 so far delegates for mr. trump, and senator cruz, 359 delegates. tuesday, obviously a big contest for the republicans, all the republicans and democrats coming up. let's listen to senator ted cruz last night. ted cruz: donald trump has supported liberal democrats going back to supporting jimmy carter over ronald reagan. he has supported joe biden and harry reid and chuck schumer. he supported john kerry over george w. bush. twice to hillary clinton's presidential campaign
in 2008. he helped fund harry reid and nancy pelosi taking over congress, which is what gave us obamacare. now, if you are fed up with the of washington, the answer is not supporting someone who has been funding and profiting off that washington corruption for decades. ted cruz: so we are seeing voters recognize, wait a second, this guy is not what i thought. the media some all of these anchors, they described him as the insurgent. there ain't nothing insurgent about this guy. when he has been lining the pockets of every d.c. politico for 40 years, he is about as
insurgent as george soros. how is that for an insurgent? insurgents do? they actually stand up to washington. they do not fund washington, they say no when washington is harming the people. and the dynamic we are seeing, and the reason our campaign is surging, is nationwide there are roughly 60% -- 65% to 70% of republicans who recognize donald trump is not the best candidate to go head-to-head with hillary. that if we nominate donald trump, we lose. the "ohio statesman," --
the other statesman," three states going to donald trump. hillary clinton won mississippi but lost in michigan. leftve about five minutes in our conversation with all of you, getting in a few more phone calls. if the candidate you are supporting right now is not the nominee, how will you vote? from georgia, a democrat. what do you think? who are you supporting? caller: bernie sanders. host: if he is not the nominee, what happens? twoer: i think we have decent democratic nominees this year. bernie sanders, what he is , he affects most people where i live. most people just working -- host: andy in mississippi,
republican. who is your candidate right now? caller: donald trump. host: did you vote yesterday for donald trump? caller: i did. host: what if he is not the nominee? caller: that is a tough question. i have been watching these debates ever since they started. i have been listening to what donald trump has to say and i am leaning toward him because he has successfully made it in america. perceive it, he wants to bring jobs back to america. the way he isike talking about the economy. is trade a big deal for you? caller: well, trade is very important in this country, but we need to bring more back to america than what we have from overseas. host: ok.
you did not answer the question. what if he is not the nominee? what will you do? caller: i would have a tough time voting for our next president. host: so you would potentially stay home. if senator ted cruz is the nominee or someone else, you would stay home? caller: no, i will not stay home. i will vote, but i will vote the best of my conscience according to how i feel. but i will definitely still vote republican. host: so you would never switch and vote for a democrat? caller: no, ma'am, not in this lifetime. host: even if it was bernie sanders? caller: that is correct. message, has a similar or at least is talking about trade like normal trump is. we go to marry, from pennsylvania, a democrat. my name is mary and i
have not been active in politics since 1964. i feel the democratic party is not listening to the entire country. cnn last night stated that the democrats are going after bernie sanders like they went after mccarthy and mcgovern. we both know what happened to those few years. the democrats got trounced terribly because our country is not left. it is moderate. bernie is extremely left. if he gets the nomination, i will do a right-in -- a write-i n. i do not feel that he is unelectable person at this point. host: would you ever vote for a republican? caller: i have voted for republicans in the past. republicand for senators, governors, and i have voted republican presidents. i go for the person usually who
i feel is most capable and will generally do something for the entire country or the state that i live in. host: so let's say hillary clinton is not the nominee. you do not like bernie sanders, not electable. what if it is him versus donald trump? what do you do? caller: i have done a write-in candidate before. host: what if it is senator ted cruz? caller: i would still do a write-in. host: senator marco rubio? caller: i would still do a write-in. host: john kasich? caller: i like him. host: what if it is john kasich versus hillary clinton? caller: hillary has a lot of experience. she has always gotten beat up for the things that she has done , but i also think she has done
a lot of the things that nobody ever gives her credit for. is mary, dunmore, pennsylvania, a longtime democrat. we are going to turn our attention to trade, because that was a big issue and has been a big issue in this campaign. the exit poll from michigan shows us that that played out. that was one of the big factors in bernie sanders' win. we will talk with lori wallach next, and then former gop congressman j.c. watts from oklahoma will be joining us to ,alk about the republican party this campaign nominating process for republicans. we will be right back. >> i think what is so unusual is that to be able to have
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folks that do exit polls. nearly six in 10 michigan primary voters say international ande takes away u.s. jobs, bernie sanders won those voters by roughly 20 percentage points in preliminary exit poll data. only three pretend -- only three trade with other countries creates domestic jobs. clinton won this group narrowly. what do you think? class the elite political misread the potency of the trade issue. across the board, polls show -- independents, sanders won them big time in michigan, and they have had it with trade policies per like most americans, these folks pulling against current trade policies are not against trade.
they just know the way we have been doing it has been bad for them and that for the country. they are sick of being told that be next trade agreement will no different than the ones in the past. to some degree i suspect there is the appeal -- part of the , these tradenders agreements are a bad deal. but they also have a different way of doing trade, not just cutting things off but doing trade. at the same time, trump has had appeal, but he has -- whatever it is, americans have had it with this version of our trade agreement, and they are looking for something else. host: where does your group come down on trade? guest: we have critic -- we have been critical for a long time. theh nader founded us in 1970's.
he was very unpopular to some of our friends in the union because he said we should have free trade for cars. they are safer and more fuel-efficient. so we are not against trade. what got us involved is today's trade agreements, the brand free trade agreement has been hijacked in a way. now the trade agreements have all these provisions since nafta. there are literally rules that make it safer or easier for companies to send jobs overseas, rules for buy america preferences. invest in having them communities and create jobs here, rules that deregulate banks and wall street. so all of this stuff, we started paying attention, and as we were looking at the data, it is really compelling. under the model of trade agreements that we have with those countries, our export growth goes down, trade deficits go up. we have lost since the era of
nafta and the world trade organization one out of four of every u.s. manufacturing job. of highe also millions wage sector jobs that have moved offshore because of these rules. we even now import more beef than we export. can you imagine, in the united states? host: there are those that site the benefit of our current trade situation. ucla andudy out of columbia university showed that the lowest 10% of wage earners saw a 63% boost in buying power from trade compared with just 28% for the richest 10%. guest: that study is an anomaly because the data took -- that data show that the winners are on the import site. if you lost your job to trade, it is a catastrophe, but the
theory is on the imports because we all get cheaper goods even though people lose their jobs because we are making that stuff -- we are not making that's that the incomee -- up ladder, that mathematically is no longer true. that study is an anomaly compared to other studies that put the actual trade data into the theory behind free trade, which is we will be winners because we get cheaper stuff. two years ago, the economic policy, the center for economic policy and research did a study where they plug to the data in, and what they found was that even though they get cheaper stuff, the wages were losing by offshore, moving up the income scale. income, americans are , cheaper000 per year stuff meaning a bigger loss in wages, so the net loss is not positive. host: can you directly tie wages
and job loss to specifically those trade agreements? trade lawyer. you want to ask that of the economists. the current trade one of the largest reasons for income inequality. when you liberalize trays, you are going to push wages into developed countries. obviously, it is not everything. trade think, a free tank in washington. they did a study a couple of years ago and they said it is about 40% of the push down. had muchdies have higher levels. it is a major contributor. , what you are
wageally doing is arbitrage. that partnership in vietnam is about $.65 an hour. you could have a smart the emmys worker making the same computer as a person in the u.s. who is least $15e making at an hour. you can see why when you're competing. host: for those viewers who watched the campaign events on c-span and see the candidates saying the tpp, it has been
signed in the united states by the 12 nations, however it has not gone before congress. will it and will it pass? guest: if it went there right now, it would not pass. viewers, itall the nafta on steroids. that, it isot like a bigger, more expanded version with more crazy rules. the tpp does not have a majority in congress for a variety of reasons. congressional democrats are against it. of republicans against it. some of them are not happy with the actual trade stuff. for instance, for agricultural exports to japan, they are
unhappy that there are even more extreme rules for medicine patents. some of them are unhappy there .s an exception for tobacco there is a provision call the .nvestor state resolution it goes around for an arbitration. it sounds like a conspiracy. chapter, itat that andd lack our domestic laws we taxpayers would have to pay cash for investors who are meeting u.s. law. there is an exception to tobacco and the republicans don't want that. on the democratic side, it is all of a child's rate for republicans, it is too.
if you aftermath, it would not happen. here's the thing about tpp. the way it is written, both the u.s. and japan have to approve it. it is a 5000 page doorstop and japangress approve it. everyd to get presidential candidate to say what they were due -- would do as president. the chance that it will get sent to congress this year are at best 50-50. host: has any candidate said that? guest: i think that bernie
sanders has said that. host: with that, we will get to calls. dorothy, a democrat. caller: good morning. congress stand on the and decide to not label gmo's. problem when i hear candidates say we don't wage. minimum i can see us with this trade situation being offered a job for two dollars and up. it is a very good
question. the wto said that we would have .o pay $1 billion in sanctions it used to say animal raised income is slaughtered them, you knew the background of the meat. those levels are gone. they wto said the wto said you're not allowed to do that under the agreement. so, congress got rid of it. it happened six weeks after president obama said no trade agreement can change
our laws. the tpp allows a new right for importers to challenge at the border and get it release. because a lotying of countries are huge importers. tim, a south carolina republican. i just have a comment and then i want to ask miss wallack a question. first, the american public, i don't want to call them a great. if they want greece or spain, boat for killer clinton or bernie sanders. you will have unemployment at %.out 25 by hillarywas signed
clinton in the 90's, what could anyone do as far as an independent person to come and and regulate the trade with and have taiwan make our products instead of china? mosul don't know they produce a lot more than bangladesh, india, and all these countries. what could we do to back them more and try to make progress? we really do need our jobs back here. guest: we have lost about 65,000 manufacturing use of these and .org youo to tradewatch
can type in your zip code. it is a u.s. department of labor database. we got that through a freedom of information act challenge and made it searchable. industry.t in an if you want to look at steel, you look and -- you can look at steel. it is computers, aerospace. what would you do to try and have those jobs here? some of it you can't control come about what you can do is a few things. one, every trade agreement has to have rules against currency manipulation. the question is, who as president would do something about it.
when you transfer it back into their currency, suddenly it is way more expensive than it would be. sir currency disciplines, number one. number two, we have to get rid of the defendants for offshore. to offshorecentives jobs. we should not be pushing them out the door to make it easier. number three, we have to get rid america, byn by local. -- buy american, buy local. to make sure the service sector agreements are -- you can have work done
anyplace. no limits on sending private information. i'm getting the wink that i should move on. if you go to our website, you can see a bill called the trade act from 2009. section four is about 40 pages. that is the alternative. host: lori pollack is our guest. go to an independent in florida. the best person for foreign trade is hurricane. clinton.y ok, hillary is the best?
you agree with her on trade? caller: yes. she won't bully her way. so diplomatically, you think hillary is better. i want to show warren and our other viewers. this was highlighted in michigan at the debate between bernie sanders and hillary clinton. want to show you what hillary clinton and bernie sanders set on trade. supportedry clinton virtually every one of these disastrous trade agreements written by corporate america. [applause] nafta, supported by the secretary caused us a hundred thousand jobs nationwide.
permanent, normal relations with china cost us millions of jobs. thes on the picket lines in 1990's as you did not need a phd to understand that american tokers should not be forced compete against people in mexico making $.25 an hour. the reason that i was one of the first, not one of the last to be in opposition of the tpp, is that american workers should not be forced to compete against workers in vietnam making $.65 an hour. what we have got to do is tell corporate america that they cannot continue to shut down. we have lost 60,000 factories since 2001. start,e going to have to
if i president, to invest in this country. not in china. the voted against multi-trade agreement when i was in the senate. --er a finish, i thought was after i finished i thought it was reasonable to know what was in it before i opposed it. host: it is true that the to -- voted against cap guest: when she was secretary of the korea supported trade agreement. that was the basis for the tpp. it is an effect -- been in
effect for three years. in three years, our exports dropped 7%. we have a trade deficit that increased 90%. a loss of jobs of about 80,000. -- theree the formula is a very distinct difference in he wase was for it and against it. was thereow that it to point out nafta when she did not vote for it. to say you are for it, that is as good as voting for a. for a lot of americans, there are a lot of disagreements within the party.
it has not proved to be true. thise looking at what is man thinking? you say, there goes his health care improvements for trying to improve prices. safetye passed the food -- potential legacy is undermined and that is an agreement that secretary clinton calls the gold standard. the whole three fingers worth of
when she it was done said that and on the other hand, bernie sanders has been against it. you have drop who has been against these agreements since nafta. rubio, who isave supportive. both parties have that divide. headline and the wall street journal, white males propel trump and sanders. isst: what's interesting looking at the exit polls. theers, increased
african-american vote and women in michigan. she went to the same college i went to. it was an all women's college. he has done very well with latinos. for some degree, if you look at the polling on nafta, where he inon those categories, show the cross tabs of polls. a lot of latino voters in the u.s. who still have family in mexico and central america understand the double whammy of these agreements. the problem is the way the current kind of deals are written, it has been kind of
lose lose in the sense that for a person and mexico, they have seen a race to the bottom. with these trade agreements -- theolks in china different way of doing the trade agreements. host: back to more calls. a democrat. i am listening to very making senseeople out of things that are out of my league. as a general, it seems to me that the trade agreements have pretty much agreed to put americans out of work and to
make the rich richer and kind of diminish and execute the middle class. as far as the people that are -- ing on this [inaudible] care of americans first and then talk about the rest of the world. going to vote for sanders. fan.d to be a hillary it is not that i am not now, but a wonderfule do thing for americans if only they
can see it. guest: i have been listening to the campaign and one thing that strikes me is how did we get into these trade agreements? nafta, it was a big experiment. not it had all these things to do with trade. the rules limiting procurement policies, financial regulations, withng got medical prices stopping opposition from generics. all that stuff got bundled in. the critics turned out to be right. how do we is that
keep doing the same agreements? fromyou look at language nafta, you see the same in tpp and it is worse. that is why folks who are concerned about the trade issues are flocking to sanders. rigged system. --have special interest to special interests who benefit from this. of have this minority interests that dominate the trade policy even if it has shown europe the year it does not work for most americans.
say our current policies are not for us. it is for special interests and other countries. host: the trade deals are on the books. this is a column from this morning. can trump start a trade war? like citiesunds will be vaporized. obviously, you could have retaliatingyou are against each other. however, i don't think any of the candidates are talking about doing that. in different ways, what they are talking about is using our market power. theonly upside to having
companies and the other countries. it is not going to cause a trade .ar host: could donald trump get it done bullying, using your words? the trade agreements , so trumperal law should have a role in doing get. whether or not it was a democratic or republican congress, you could probably get congress to support those fixes.
medicine stuff, the stuff, you could do that in congress. whoever is president will have to use the bully pulpit to take actions. there are some that commit done executive action. constitutionally, our founders put congress in control of trade. congress is going to have to be involved no matter what. as far as the passage or changing of agreements, they'd have a six-month notice.
get a guided tour. we also have more details on these issues. with footnotes, you can go back and printed out. whether you love it or hate it. when you talk to members of congress, whether or not tpp is up for grabs. job: did you have a fun translating it? i actually enjoyed it. after the last 25 years and going to law school, i can look what that i know means. it is really important given that these trade agreements.
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.ongressman jc watts let's begin with the result of the primary last night. the headline on the wall street journal, trump titans his grip on the gop. does it look like he is the nominee? could certainly make the argument. obviously, there are still some time left on the clock. i think time is running out for . couple of the candidates it would not surprise me if the for next week you did not see someone drop out. i do think next tuesday is going to be buried telling. demand field,o a you have a little bit of time to 's shrinksonald trump
are. if they're real, there is nothing that would encourage me to think they are not real. host: have you endorse a candidate? guest: i was a rand paul guy. since he dropped out, i have not hitched my wagon to any horse. we will see how it plays out and go from there. host: you're not ready to support someone quite yet? well, people asked me why i supported rand paul. first of all, i thought some of the issues he talked about, they reconciled with me fairly well. incarceration reform, income disparities, antipoverty legislation. things republicans
usually don't take on, but senator paul actually took on those things. when he called to ask for my support i felt compelled to do it. i have not talked to anyone about an endorsement so i'm kind of in the position to see what happens in who gets the nomination. host: if donald trump gets the nomination, what is the impact on the republican party? guest: while these are my personal feelings. other republican to my opinions or my feelings, it wouldsonally think be a rather negative impact.
republicans, the republican national committee, tiedepublican candidates democratic candidates who were running in 1986, if your call, vice president gore kept his distance from president clinton. and ints turned around 2004, and 2008 especially, tied republican candidates to president bush. consider what has happened in the last five or six months with donald trump. with what he has said about women, i disagree with. i think he is painting it with a very broad brush concerning the
hispanic community. i disagree with that. i disagree with the hostility that he has encouraged for some of his rallies. to hear the candidates say they got what they deserved. to encourage that, i disagree with that. he said, i think is a -- a testlitmus test to get into the country. andthen a week ago, the kkk david duke. it, personally, i would have serious problems with those things. i have done a lot of radio and wasply test tv and i accused of trying to correct
political correctness. i don't care about political correctness, i would care about decency. i think some of the things he has encouraged, i don't see them as politically correct or incorrect. i see them as indecent. rejected any support from white supremacist groups. did he not go far enough? guest: well, it did not satisfy me. ferociousmething that ferocious.at it should not be a matter of i don't know david duke, it should plain andnce him simple. i don't just point to that one
thing. that is one of many things. it is very difficult for you and i to have a debate and me try to say your motives to do something was this or you say my motives were that. i think that is unfair, but i do you judge my actions, you cannot say why i did them, but you can clearly judge my actions. we can say the actions were wrong and when you have a presidential candidate that would stand behind a statement as we have heard all along, that is just who i am. that concerns me because when you hear someone in the community saying that it's just
the way i am, what they are usually saying is i don't want accountability, don't want people correcting me. andlity is not my thing they are probably not going to grow personally. it is not any one thing. i can point to a whole host of things. wholeand you think those host of things heard the republican party? well, our brand has already -- we are still trying to build a brand with .ontraditional constituents i think that sets us back. i have worked very hard in the last 20 years reaching out to nontraditional constituents and i think this is a tremendous setback.
i think every republican house-senate candidate out there, they are going to have to defend these things. jim: john, a democrat from -- virginia. caller: good morning. i want to say one thing. i would say you are part of the assessment and part of the problem. number one, don't trump, he is not -- by anybody. republicans have a choice to elect who they want. he is not the establishment telling the people. people thatng the ted cruz is better when he is
neither born in this country. number two, look at the republican congressman read now. goal -- mitchl mcconnell's goal said his number one priority is to make obama a one term president. the republicans are out of touch. that is why some of us are going to bernie sanders and some are going to donald trump. i don't know if he was a trump supporter or not. host: that is the thing though. people that are supporting sanders are saying they could support trump. guest: when you look at the dynamics of the bernie, trump
effort. athough i think there is populist rebellion, they are wanting different things. we willrump is saying and welegal immigration will build a wall. bernie sanders is not talking about building a wall. donald trump is talking about something totally different. i will give you this. i don't think that this uproar sevend just in the last or eight years with president as you alluded to. dean.orward to howard
we saw on the democratic side, vice president gore did not even endorse his vice president candidate, joseph lieberman. you pass for today. you have sanders on one side and trump on the other. i don't think that those two spaces are talking about the also, for the caller is not that ted cruz born in the united states. that is campaign silliness. that is -- host: given what you said about donald trump, could you vote for donald trump if he was the
nominee? guest: i would have a very difficult time voting for donald trump and i do not say that as a republican. the things i've said for and the things i have but for on the social side of the equation, donald trump and i have very little in common. would you vote for hillary clinton? guest: i would have a difficult time for that. host: so what do you do? guest: i think there are many voters out there that are profiling like that. they are and that dilemma. hade you said you have sanders voters saying they could vote for trump and trump voters saying they could vote for
sanders, but then you have another them are graphic out there that would say because of these issues, i would have difficult both -- voting for both of them. not everybody profiles for sanders and clinton. voters who are happy, they are unhappy for a lot of different reasons. host: steve, a republican. morning,ood congressman jc watts. go sooners. we are big supporters. guest: with the price of oil down, the sooners doing good certainly helps. this debt really worries
me about the u.s.. they just keep rolling along one .fter the other how can we all this that. i think when we got past $12 trillion that it is going to take years. the most i think we could ever do is pay to an a $50 billion a year down. -- $250 billion a year down. something that you don't hear the trump campaign talking about.
you don't hear the sanders campaign talking about it. candidatese three that are drawing the center of attention. trillion inaid, $19 .ebt if we did not have that debt, we could be spending $365 billion a year on research and development on diabetes, cancer, we could be spending that to rebuild our roads or bridges around the country. there are a lot of different thats we could be sending money on and no one is talking about it and again i go back to
the two camps. says we will give you this and this, but he never talks about how he is going to pay for it. on the right, you hear about wall and youg a never hear anything about the debt. if you want to hear about the debt, you have to get down to the cruise, rubio, and casing -- john kasich circles. john kasich was chairman of the budget committee. i served eight years in congress and we overlapped with each other and we put on ourselves in a path to balance the budget in
years weand for four were paying down our debt. as stephen said, he raises that question. i will close the circle by saying that if we don't deal with our national debt, it is going to be extremely painful for our kids and grandkids. , that is notion mentioning the debt to social security. that is not mentioning the debt we are running. there are a whole lot of things that are not included in that $19 billion. ready $5be closer to trillion dollars
in debt. host: in your book, you write about morality. i'm wondering what you think given that morality and decency, have not been a big factor in this campaign. evangelicals are voting for donald trump. guest: that in itself is baffling. book is this.the i am a dysfunctional person. i'm a flawed person. we all are. wombme out of our mothers been the wrong way. no one has to teach their kids to be bad. they come out of the mothers and they have to be caught. i may be more dysfunctional than
but we are all dysfunctional. i say that we get in trouble when our dysfunctions become normal. that is what i talk about in the book. tois not a natural instinct forgive. it is not a natural instinct not to be selfish. it is not a natural instinct to turn the other cheek. life, i haveal been on some fine corporate boards, run my own business. been a youth pastor. i've been in athletics at the highest level. there is one thing that is common and that is to cheer the
crowd. it is more intoxicating and politics than in any arena i have ever participated in. it is not a political book or holier than thou book. i have just taken my expenses over the last 50 years. i've taken my knuckleheaded decisions. some i have made on my own. some have done things to me. i've taken those experiences and talked about how i'm grown -- have grown. i like to think it has made me a better person. takes for us to grow as a society, we don't come out of
our mothers womb born to naturally do those things. we have to be taught those things. we gain wisdom from the pain that we experience from bad decisions. of theok is written out conscience of the pain that i have suffered in my bad decisions and decisions and things people have done to me. this book was written taking -- thinking about my -- those are miss the seven principles i talk about. hopefully i'm going to make a shameless plug. i hope people buy the book and it will be beneficial to them. host: mark, and independent in st. paul. do you happen to think
that maybe all of the republicans that are upset about how the republican assessment has been are going towards trump? trying lots of independent support. done, ifs all said and he has the most votes, he should get the nomination. romney brings out mitt come out and say not to vote for just drivingyou're a deeper wedge. guest: and he's probably right. he says you, but i do not have anything to do with that. i think i would agree with him in that sense. i think if you have another , i think to jump in
that creates a deeper chaos than what we have today. as i said from the outset, my feelings, mitch mcconnell does not have to endorse my feelings about donald trump. those are my feelings. those are my thoughts based on my 58 years of living and what my wisdom tells me a candidate like that does for the country. -- i wouldd, i don't not probably vote for donald trump, but and i may not vote others bow. way in donald trump,
but i trust the american people. i cannot say that if republicans want to -- if we don't like what the the democrats put up in terms of the candidate for president that means we have to put up a candidate or a better candidate. that is what that means. host: ted in new york, a democrat? caller: i have two points. my observation is that trump appeals to the base instincts of damaged constituency. howuestion that follows is does the republican party reconcile the rowdy, racist behavior, and i have seen the videos and they are quite disturbing. patty -- how does the party reconcile those behaviors with the possibility of a trump candidacy?
sir, you bring up a great point. if you recall at the outset i said i cannot reconcile with the position he has taken about women and painting with such a broad brush the hispanic community and encouraging hostility when you have and the kkk and outright announcing david duke. and many other things. sir, i have an easy answer. you are right. how does the party reconcile that? i can't reconcile that. host: john from florida, a republican. caller: i'm the most conservative republican there is. donald trump, i am 150% for him.
them, kase rest of ich, rubio, clinton. i would not higher than did clean my sewer system. host: why are you supporting donald trump? caller: he is forgetting illegals out of the country that have taken all the americans jobs. they sent my children's jobs in my grandkids jobs. he will straighten out this trade stuff. trillion for the trade deficit. he will stop all this stuff. all of our jobs are going over there. and all this other stuff i believe he is really going to do it. entity double crosses us, we come up with the same we have had for the past 100 years. one thing i would have you -- whats how do
are your thoughts on cruz? people say for those supporting one ofthey say he is not them. he is not an insider. would he support cruz? one of the arguments against ted is he is unpopular. even donald trump says he is the most hated men in washington. if you are unhappy with washington, what you have some attraction to the most hated man in washington? he had not gone along to get along. that is somewhat perplexing to me when you have jerry falwell junior and pastor jefferies at a first baptist church dallas that endorsed trump. i am perplexed over that. i have met jerry followed junior.
i knew his dad much better than i know him. his dad and i were friends. i appreciate commerce road baptist church. i had a son that went to school. it was perplexing to me because in my mind i would ask this gentleman how can you jump over ted cruz to get the donald trump if that's what you want because cruz has taken similar positions. but how will they jump over john or mike huckabee, rick ,antorum, ted cruz, ben carson any as he other 697 candidates we've had running for candidate to get the donald trump? host: senator ted cruz has been in washington for a couple of years. could those people, the voters that are calling in see what you wrote about in your book? power and money drive washington. they feel like donald trump
could come and shake those two things up. that is the, perception people have and i understand that. ims frustrated with washington -- i am as frustrated with washington. i had a guy tell me once you guys don't rethinking washington is a cesspool. after about six months you think it's a jacuzzi. [laughter] is i am saying when you talk about somebody that has gained the since the that agmed -- gamed the system, donald trump has done it as well as anybody. playing republicans and democrats. it has come out in the last two weeks about how he hired illegal immigrants on his construction jobs. ted cruz had not created jobs.
ted's position has been to create the right environment to create jobs. that is just as important as creating jobs. if you create a hostile environment for investment capital in america, that investment will go overseas. think ted has talked about immigration. i have not endorsed ted or donald. i am just saying we have to be careful we are not talking out of both sides of our mouths when we say this is what i want in a candidate and we go to trump when you can surely find the same thing or more and another candidate. and that is -- if someone in my district supported the, they had choices. it was not just me running. they had choices. i think you have to peel the
onion of little deeper and only get to the basis of where they are trying to get. host: congressman watts served from 1995 to 2003 presenting a district in oklahoma. andrites about his new book how he said he would only be in washington for a while serving the people of oklahoma and decided to leave after this four --those four terms. guest: and it just became president and ceo of feed the children on february 1 in oklahoma city. i'm pretty excited about that. 2015 we served 9 million kids in united states and overseas. everyday we feed 263,000 kids. be int think you have to
public service to serve. that's when i ran i do not think i needed to be a congressman to make a contribution. i don't think i have to be the president to make a contribution. i think the important thing is grow wherever you are planted. whatever you are doing, tried to to do it welltry and be an asset to the company you serve in the constituents and the people you serve. host: john in virginia, independent. caller: former republican. i voted for reagan twice and bush four times, dole, and then i got off the republican reservation. , you on a lobbying company. do you have any clients that are paying you to lobby for tpp? don't answer right now because i
will probably be cut off. i will tell you what christian republicans, christian right-wingers vote for trump. i have a doing this a longtime. they say call me a c-span junkie. i watched you when you succumb on tv. it was like you send down. -- thinned down. host: over --guest: over 12 or 14 years, you are right. caller: we no longer believe the republican party. i am a christian. i would much rather have dinner with a center who admits he is a sinner -- sinner who admits he than having dinner with a stuffy christian who presents themselves as something they are not. ted cruz's wife was involved in a study that concluded that the
north american -- north america should take down its borders. he is not an outsider. the cruz's are insiders. host: john's perspective that they can no longer trust the gop. you helped george w. bush with his faith-based programming. for you who is been a pastor, what is that mean? guest: i think anybody that is ever serve time in public service, you will be seen as an insider. i have had differences with my party since i became a republican. i have been after the republican ofty to do more in terms establishing deeper relationships with african-american communities falling on deaf ears. uy the book and b
be objective in terms of when they read it, they will see when a whitehad a banker, banker in norman, oklahoma that said we are sick of blacks in football players. i was both. that was because of something that happened in the football program over a span of about 45 days. meear later i ran and he put in that same category. we are sick of blacks and we are sick -- people are sick of blacks in football players. he happened to be the republican banker. he was not a democrat banker. i had my democrat opponent first rent take a picture with me in my big afro and put it in one of his commercials and was basically implying this is who you want to be a congressman. i have been on the front line of trying to get the republican party to change some of their
old ways. i have been on the front line in trying to get the party to embrace, to not discriminate entitiesaith-based trying to serve the community in terms of feeding the poor and housing the homeless and clothing the naked. anybody that has ever been in public service you consider them an outsider. it is what it is. people are going to vote the way their perception tells him to vote. done would do is i have with the black community of the last 20 something years and say when anybody comes into your community asking for your vote, really peel the onion. hold them accountable. if you are unhappy with
--hington, my saying is thing is how can you be happy when donald trump himself is probably more of an insider than paul ryan? jay in chattanooga, tennessee. a democrat. caller: good morning. sir, i'm a 66-year-old vietnam veteran. i am a democrat. i have followed your career over the years and i have to say my hat is off to you. you did a brilliant job and what you have applied yourself to. i have to say this. what caught my attention was your book and how you titled it.
own-searching, finding your narrative about coming out of your mother's womb and how the process begins is very thought worthy and intelligent. i have nothing but praise for you. host: james, we have to leave it there. guest: james, you are kind. -- james, there more we accept the fact we are bent the wrong way, we are dysfunctional. it's just a matter of degrees. i am probably more dysfunctional than james and i probably more dysfunctional than you, greta, but we are all dysfunctional. it's just a matter of degree. only make those dysfunctions are normal, that is when we get in trouble. james talked about digging deep.
it is the phrase i used to say to thee got to get mountaintop regardless of your skin color or gender, there will be times you have to reach within yourself and get beyond the superficial excuses and say i will have to throw myself into the middle of this circumstance and order to get there. veteran, if he is a there are many times he has had to dig deep. warren moon, -- tony romo and kurt warner. all three quarterbacks. warren was undrafted. but today he is in the hall of fame. nobody wanted him coming out of college. you think are not times he had to dig deep? tony romo was not drafted out of college. kurt warner, the guy was sacking
groceries at a grocery store when they gave him an invitation to come and try with the st. louis rams. about. what i am talking again, there is no soldier, no veteran, that will not understand what this book is trying to say and trying to teach. host: we will get randy in huntsville, alabama. caller: thank you. i was raised in the south as a democrat. party not agreed with the and what they are doing. i am now a registered republican. i did vote for donald trump. i just wonder why people like mr. watts and the republican
party as a whole are pulling so against donald. he brought me out of the closet. he put me back on track. i believe in his teachings. i believe in what he is saying. i believe he will say -- do what he says he will do. host: have you always voted republican? caller: no. this is my first time. host: this is your first time voting/ -- voting? guest: do you agree with any candidate in their rallies and otherg security rally goers to be hostile towards protesters? would you encourage that? caller: i don't think he does. guest: we have got it taped. caller: i understand. i have seen you play the tape
over and over. guest: randy, i said at the outset i don't expect mitch , paul ryan, the guy that follows me in the fourth district of oklahoma. i don't expect any other republican, why don't demand any other republican to take on the way i feel. i am speaking for me. i'm not asking the party to have my identity. caller: mr. watts, you are money of bud cramer from alabama. -- remind me of bud cramer. he has retired and went to be a lobbyist and became filthy rich. you can't tell me the guys don't get paid well to be lobbyist. guest: let me encourage you. man tonever depend on
feed my kids and do what i need to do. i do more than consulting. i'm in the john deere business. i'm on the lecture circuit. i speak 8-10 times a year somewhere around the country and different churches. it is a false narrative. yes, i have done consulting but consulting is not my sole source of income. i don't eat consulting to make a living. -- need consulting to make a living. . i want to clarify that host: why did you want to write this book? just -- ithink it was think the demeanor i see, and it's not just this year, but what we have seen. the attitude we have seen
against president obama. i do not appreciate it. at the same time i saw that same attitude against george w. bush. i did not appreciate it then. i think we are better than that. i can disagree with you about being hostile. people used to come to my office. you can imagine a black republican. i was a black republican. it's a little bit more comfortable today, a little bit more acceptable, but when i ran for office of the first african-american republican elected south of the mason-dixon line since reconstruction. i had a guy, and i talked about this in the book, i got it said after i was elected in a certain part of a district. these divvy a democratic legislature -- legislator. it was somewhat of a backhanded compliment. i don't think he said it to the ugly, but he said, i never
thought i would see republican elected in this district. he went on to say, let alone a black republican. i was standing right there. i don't think he said to be ugly. i think he was being honest. i think it was somewhat of a compliment. i think he was trying to articulate that to be councilman rate. -- howin the book about in the last three years. i'm in a department store in norman, oklahoma where i played order back in service congressman. i have a security guy following me. i establish he was following the. i finally turned around and said why are you following me? he said i'm doing my job. i said, is your job to follow me? i went back and i confronted him again and i said sir, we are in
this store all the time. people know me. he said i'm doing my job and i don't care if you're the president. i went on. i told my wife what happened and she said you should tell the manager. i talked to the manager and told her what happened. she said mr. watts, we know you. toinally went back to him let him know what has happened. hen i midback -- went back said i am so sorry. said i'm so sorry for that. i said, sir, i accept your apology. but i do want you to know i have got kids and grandkids. i would hate for them to come into this store and you put them
through the humiliation you to put me through over the last 25-30 minutes. these are my experiences. wisdom i havehe gained from those experiences. i did not get hostile or upset. i just wanted the gentleman to know. i try to walk him off the ledge and he would not allow me. i wanted him to know he made a mistake. there is nothing wrong with making mistakes if you learn from them. i hope it was a teaching, learning moment for him. host: we thank you for talking to our viewers this morning. . is "digging deep" come back again. we will take a short break. while we can back we will turn our attention to campaign 2016 and ask all of you who are you supporting right now?
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look at where it stands right now. donald trump in the lead with 458 delegates. by 359. trailing him rubio with 151. hillary clinton has a far larger gap between her and bernie sanders. 1221 delegates. superdelegates are supporting her as opposed to 25 superdelegates for bernie sanders. alan in ohio, a republican. good morning and go ahead. caller: good morning. i missed mr. watts. the question is i wanted to vote for john kasich but it does not look like he is doing very good. -- that the establishment host: go ahead. cannot 30, 40y people with paul ryan and they are trying to dump trump, i want
to switch over to trump. he cannot be bought. what is donald up to, 38%? 40%? host: of the delegates? caller: people, numbers. you know what i am talking about. host: i don't know the exact percentage but i hear you. caller: the way these talisman -- theg him, establishment is doing him, if he gets the delegates in cleveland and the throw it out, throw it aside, and they get somebody else in, none of those people are going to vote. i probably will vote for nobody. if kasich does not win ohio, i will switch over. drop is a pretty ignorant man to me.
mp is a pretty ignorant man to me. for a two-time loser like mitt romney to come out, that shows you what they are. that is why people are switching. once people get a taste of donald trump, maybe if he gets in there will be no money grubbing from from -- from none of these people. i sound a little strange and fired up. 37% is fired up. that's all they want to do is keep that money. host: have you always voted? every four years? caller: yes. always. host: have you always voted republican? caller: i used to be a democrat until bill clinton. his first year. how ironic. i'm talking about the democrats. nobody wants to vote for them.
bill clinton was a convicted liar. hillary is a liar. this is all proven. host: let's go to richard from florida. go ahead. caller: good morning. thank you for the interview with jc watts. that was extraordinary and i'm a wild eyed liberal. host: you are a liberal. you are you supporting? caller: hillary. host: why? caller: the standard explanation. experience terrific and she is liberal. her view of the country and the world. she has her worldview. to hear her and bernie have their debates, it's like you are on another planet compared to the other side. it is sad. that is what makes jc watts seem like such a reasonable
individual, such a contrast to what is going on. host: it looks like hillary clinton has a lot of delegates right now because of the superdelegates. they can change their mind. would you be happy if bernie sanders was the nominee? you be happy if bernie sanders was the nominee? caller: i will vote for him as he is the nominee. primary voters said either candidate would be accepted. two thirds would be satisfied with clinton at the nominee. 10 would be satisfied with bernie sanders. voters inf of the michigan would be dissatisfied with donald trump as the nominee. john, and independence. welcome to the conversation. caller: good morning. host: who is your candidate? caller: i liked carson, but he dropped out. right now, i am not too happy
with any of them. you think donald trump should be the nominee for the republican party? caller: yes and no. to try and bring jobs which is the most important. we have so many people out of people working part time, so many people on welfare. we need to get them back to work. concerned, the rest of them are talk and it is just going to be the same basic thing. , a republican, are you supporting your governor? caller: i am going to go donald trump. is not the nominee, what will you do? caller: i will still support the republican.
host: a republican, no matter what. i listened to an advertisement where bernie sanders blames the banking industry for the meltdown of 2008. notow hillary clinton is going to hit on it. somebody should. we are really breaking up. i apologize. we could not hear that part. christopher, you are on the air. caller: i support bernie sanders completely on the basis that i have seen so many instances of hillary clinton lying, or just changing her views with the political wins. ,nd it donald trump lying
reversing what he is saying within a sentence or two, he is crazy. ien it comes down to it, would not vote for hillary clinton even though i have always voted democrat. in bernie sanders in the election. risk of that the meaning donald trump would win in a general election matchup? yes.r: there is a bizarre comparison between the people for donald trump and bernie sanders, they are the same. they want these extreme changes. were elected, he would be like sarah palin. he would be the billionaire who got bored and quit.
his views being so radical, you make fun of disabled people, mexicans, rapists, all of that craziness that has been well documented. the person cannot be the leader of the free world. if you get clinton, you get status quo. things do not get better. they stay the same, maybe they get worse. with donald trump, it will force change. host: kennedy, new york, independent. now, i liket sanders. i like donald trump. everything is on a smoke cloud and most people on life asreal deal it is.
do everything for the united states. we try to do things for other countries also. you have to take care of home. everyone talking this scrap are -- talking this crap are talking out of their behinds. they don't know what poverty is. most of the people talking this crap am looking at the status quo, they don't have any inkling of what is going on. host: you are for donald trump? caller: i like donald trump, but day it comes down for the to vote, if i do not see the person on there that i want, i will put my name on there. to what thelisten gop front-runner had to say after he racked up mississippi, michigan, and hawaii. idaho went to ted cruz. [video clip]
trump: the tremendous number of people coming out to vote, some of the states are getting -- one has 102% increase over four years ago. it's amazing. on average, you are talking andt probably millions millions of people, whereas the 30%, 30 5%,e down down from what they were. by 50%, even more than that. it is the biggest story in politics today. i hope the republicans will embrace it. over,e democrats coming ndents coming over. with all of these people coming we will have something
very special. the polls show me beating her. we will take many people away from the democrats and many people who normally go democrat. states, 15w has 15 wins as the nominating process continues. we are asking you who you are supporting. if they were not to become the nominee, what do you do? national city, michigan, you are next. caller: i am voting for donald trump. my family is doing the same. he is smart. he will do good for the people. host: if he doesn't get the nomination, what will you do? caller: i will vote for sanders. hillary is going to let 65 into thisslims
country. they will be getting the jobs, just like in texas, where they hired a bunch of them to work in a meat factory. they went to pray for an hour and let the meat fall on the floor. if they get the jobs, who is going to do their job while they are on their knees. host: why do you think bernie sanders and donald trump are the same? i don't think they are the same. i think bernie is for socialism, which i don't want. i don't want hillary either. another thing that is offensive that she did was she came to flint and said the water crisis would have been over if it had been in bloomfield hills or rose point, which everyone knows is a
mostly white neighborhood. she is trying to get the african votes. i think it is offensive. host: she says she is for donald trump. .eorgia, independent you are on the air. first, the guy called earlier. i am one of those guys -- at the term. clinton j k i am a c-span junkie. my candidate will be bernie sanders. if he does not get it, i would vote for donald trump. what is going on is a political revolution. the people who go to work every lies, thered of the
misogyny. they are tired of all of the b.s . all of this is a direct reflection of the american political establishment trying to disenfranchise black people for the last 30 or 40 years. bernie sanders or donald trump in there. ask for a new congress, new senators and congressmen. then we can see the change that the people are crying out for. it is not going to happen with just the president. when barack obama got in there and allowed george w. bush to walk into the sunset, that is the build up the tea party. those people who voted for him, the white, hard-working white people voted for him and he let george w. bush walk off into the
sunset. to get some more phone calls. i will have to leave it there. diana, a democrat. who are you supporting? caller: bernie sanders. i agree with the young man who spoke to you a minute ago. in berniell write sanders. it is not that i'd all like and admire hillary clinton. she is too tied up to the big banks and if she takes money from private prisons. walmart, every time it moves into a place, small businesses go under. if you and others right in his name if he does not get the nomination. that clinches it for donald trump, let's say. donald trump is a lesser
evil than hillary clinton. i hate to say it, but it is true. host: you have always voted for democrat? caller: all my life. i have been waiting for bernie sanders my entire life. bernie sanders expels is everything i believe. host: how old are you? me ask? -- may i ask? caller: 69. host: -- caller: i heard a guy talking about all of the stuff they are saying about donald trump. i have been watching it since day one. a lot of it has been stretched from small to big. to --as to -- if he was if he was not nominated because of the republican party because of the way they are doing him
now, i do not know if i would vote. if i did, it would be for sanders. i would go democrat. as they were to take all of this iney that they are investing , allds and stuff like that of these republicans and -- toats spend on their get elected and put it towards deficit, we would be in better shape. host: you are voting for donald trump. if he doesn't become the nominee, you might not vote. have you not voted in the past? caller: i have voted in the past. you have always voted? always republican? been both ways. i am mainly republic. i do not like the way they are doing donald trump.
they should get behind him and support him. they signed the papers and everything. him anduld get behind if they do not, i have a feeling they're going to lose a lot of people. the party could be gone. host: that was gary, a republican in gadsden. we have about 15 minutes to continue talking to you about who you are supporting. person does not get the nomination, who do you vote for? i want to tell you about other programming here on c-span. p.m., we aret 2:00 covering the funeral for nancy reagan. at the ronald reagan presidential library in seamy valley, california. reagan lying in
repose. her funeral service is at 2:00 p.m. on friday. her funeral services are closed to the public. you can check out the reagan library. happening in washington, the canadian prime minister and his wife are visiting washington, d.c. with a number of working meetings planned. the whiteobama hosts house dinner for the new leader. visithis first official to the united states since taking office last fall. we will be talking about that here on c-span. back to your calls. harry, norcross, georgia, an
independent caller. as i explained to the screener, the candidate of my se positions i agree with most is bernie sanders. i am old enough to have voted for george mcgovern. you havet happens when a candidate that is not supported by the majority of the party. unfortunately, we have this two-party system. i vote for hillary clinton. for anybody who says that is that she willme, continue obama policies, look at the last eight years and see how far the economy has come from what he was left with. i believe he has been a remarkable president. i will vote for bernie if
hillary does not get the nomination. i will certainly vote for bernie. host: laura, go ahead. good morning. caller: i would vote for bernie. i believe we have to get the lobbyists out of the voting system. big money has to get out. vote, eachbe able to one of us deserves a voice. , not that bigsts money. you should not be able to buy a politician. i would love for bernie sanders to be the president. host: kathy, arkansas, a republican. who is your candidate? caller: donald trump. host: what happens if he is not the nominee? i am disgusted with the
republican party not standing behind donald trump. i have always been a conservative republican. i do not know whether i would stick with anyone else. i don't like how the party is treating donald trump. i might end up going to bernie sanders. leon, oklahoma, independents. what is your thinking? who is a candidate? caller: right now, it is ted cruz. i am listening to all of the candidates. like that iss i grown-up is ted cruz. a graderump sounds like school kid and a high school bully. tryi think he is doing is
-- last night he was talking about his product that he endorsed. he has a lot of lobbyists. all he wants to do is be productt to promote his . cruz does not get the nomination, what will you do? caller: i probably won't to vote. paddy, huntington, west virginia. who is your candidate and what will you do? caller: hillary clinton. i am proud of her. i love the current president we have in office now. he is doing a fantastic job. i voted for him. i am not against republicans. hes when theyhe bus were in office. hillary.ate is
i loved education. money does not get in my way. i think america is already great. i would not want to live anyplace else. if hillary does not get it, i am with bernie sanders. hillary is my pick. of foreign policy headlines. joe biden is in israel to discuss military aid. israel would like the united states to sign an agreement that would give them 40 billion over the next 10 years. right now, they are getting about $3 billion a year. that deal was signed back in 2007. $30 billion over 10 years. that discussion is happening at the same time stories of mr. to the unitedsit states has been canceled. there is no explanation. come on that. turkey and the european union
has signed a deal to stem the flow of migrants into europe. what turkey got out of the deal is they demanded and made major concessions. the union membership talks, which have been sputtering on and off since 1987. atty, huntington, west virginia. joseph, fort lauderdale, florida. who are you supporting? caller: good morning. i am supporting donald trump. bit may elaborate a little -- i am 52 years old. been voting since i was 18. i have felt the last 20 years my vote has meant nothing. a perfect example, marco rubio.
member.bio was 8 party party member. next thing we know, he is granting amnesty. mean our vote not anything? i agree with the other caller earlier. all of this money, these people can be bought and sold on a dime. if i can have my way, anybody who has been in washington for the last 20 years should be thrown out. answer the second question. how will you vote if donald trump is not the nominee? caller: if he wins by at least 150 to 200 delegates more than the next person and the democrat ram someoneblicans else down our throats, i will
never vote republican again. what has gotten done in the last five years? nothing. inde ari, ohio, an pendent. who are you supporting? start with at to complement to you and all of the other host. consummate professionals. you explore ideas. leaning towards donald trump, but i have not made up my mind. he is a little bombastic. i kind of like him. i do not know what governor christie's role is. is. not know what his role i am wary because he is a prosecutor. state go for taking away
's writes. i am leaning towards donald trump. if he does not get elected, i'm like the other gentleman who called in. a lot of people need to entertain the idea to write their name in. it will send a message. has a few people who degree. a four-year liberal arts degree. uneducatedhing about is malarkey. he is crossing a lot of lines. democrats. to the they are losing some african-american men. this is a crucial thing for the democrats. we need to explore some of the threats if they want to move forward. get if donald trump work to elected, there will be a period after donald trump. back toe we will go
more of a sense of politics that don't have all of that malarkey and bombasticness in them. host: joanne, a democrat. hillary clinton. for those that think bernie sanders is not a establishment, 22 years in congress is about as establishment as you can get. hillary is trustworthy. shehas never done anything didn't say she was going to do. she will follow president obama's agenda, which will help the country. host: gwen, how did you vote? caller: i voted for john kasich and i also support rubio. feel -- i am a republican, but i feel pretty much everyone in the selection, other than hillary clinton is pretty -- about what they want for the
country. -- i might not agree with everything he says, i abouthe feels passionate doing what he feels is best for the country. kasichly rubio and john probably are going to make it, but i would probably vote republican regardless. host: no matter what? you will stay loyal to the party? not just because of the party. i feel hillary wants to be the first woman president. host: how old are you? caller: i am 21. host: iris, alabama. independent. good morning.
i love c-span. it is a wonderful opportunity. make anlike to observation. was a brilliant plan. i do not know if it was donald management,d cruz's ool thes was to fu american people to vote for donald trump, to draw people out. it was all for the tea party. i watch a lot of politics. i'm still not sure who i am going to vote for. i believe it was a ploy. donald trump has been a ploy for the campaign the whole way through. keetah, how did you vote
yesterday? caller: i voted for bernie sanders. host: what if he does not become the nominee? caller: if he does not, i am going to take a look at john kasich. more than likely, hillary will get my vote. i believe bernie is going to get it. most people love bernie. i pray that those who support donald trump but agree with bernie will vote for him when donald does not make it. once the othere candidates about lower on the republican side, the votes will go to john kasich or ted cruz. my hope is that folks will feel the bern and feel the bernie sanders train. elizabeth, dallas, texas, republican. caller: good morning. for ted cruz. i voted for ted cruz in the
texas election. would definitely vote for donald trump. there is no way i want another four years of obama. host: tommy, carolina, and independent. who is your candidate? caller: none of the above. i am going to write in the first lady michelle obama. tommy, we will leave it at that. that is our final thought. we appreciate everyone calling in and sharing their hearts with us this morning. we will be back here tomorrow at 7:00 a.m. eastern time. let me show you this headline. thetta lynch is out of supreme court running. she believes if she were part of the process, it would limit her ability to be and act as attorney general. she is on capitol hill. we have live coverage of it now. about thetifying
budget. >> does the department of justice believe the president has the authority to violate the nda and transfer terrorists from guantanamo to prisons and can you assure us this will not happen while you are attorney general? the last question i better rephrase. would you be giving advice to the president that he can do it under current law? >> thank you. with respect to the policy put bay, to close guantanamo it has been discussed over several cycles.