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as they did unfortunately, most of the demonstrations were against the palestinian authority, not against israel. so it's matter of alternatives. we can manage and i believe push a solution, well known solution, again, and again, well known solution, it's very clear, why did it fail? with all our it might be we have the wrong one at the moment. so let's allow to revisit and especially bilaterally, all the idea of external intervention, create a negative incentive for abu ma san to come to the table -- abu massan to come to the
table. bringing the issue to the national security council, the i.c.c. this is the way to escape the reality and if it is the case in which we see together, we make progress, we do cooperate, yes, we can do even ore. mr. miller: all right, questions. >> thank you, aaron, thank you, minister, for joining us. last week, vice president biden maze a strong statement condemning the p.a. for not condemning the terrorism. at the same time, the p.a. pays the terrorists pusuant to a law passed in 2010. so my question is, do you think biden knows he p.a. pays the terrorists and if he does, then what's the point of kg the p.a. to condemn the frism when
they're paying the terrorists pursuant to law? mr. ya'alon: it is not just about condemning the taliban, which is really important. succeeded in escaping any condemnation, even in front of the vice president after the murder of american citizen nearby the place which the vice president was sitting in tel aviv. but abu massan encourage the terrorists to go within onwith their activities. it's a signal that it starts from education. i served as head to have the intelligence under the late mr. rabbin, in 1995, august 1995, mr. rabin, saying, mr. prime minister, i have to warn you, i don't see any sign for
reconciliation on the alestinian side. they don't prepare the young generation for coexistence with the jewish state. i can testify about the way i educated my kids, about our co-education, for peace, for living together side-by-side. and when i said it to prime minister rabin, i didn't have to use my sophisticated, intelligence sources, which i used, i just had to open palestinian textbooks. not the hamas textbooks but the palestinian thosht textbooks. this is the case if you educate kids from kindergarten to hate he jews, to hate the israelis, homicide, we shouldn't be surprised at 15
years old a youngster has a problem with his father on a specific morning and in late afternoon murdered a jewish martyr system of easy. so where is the palestinian authority? i said that back in 199 . when i'm asked what should be done? any dollar, any penny given to the palestinian authority should be conditioned by education. the payment for the prisoners and all the other issues, the reluctance to condemn the terrorists, that is too weak to be accountable. as i mentioned, a mistake, he should be having response -- he hould be held responsible.
>> thank you very much, i'm from kurdistan tv. what is your opinion of kurdish forces in the fight against isis? do you think the peshmerga should be armed? and if kurdistan will be a state, how important is it for stability in the region? thank you very much. mr. ya'alon: thank you for your question. if i have to think about any kind of settling the situation , weyria as well as in irack have two kurdish sectors in iraq and syria. do it is a we can federation. there's no way to unify syria,
we talk about a strategy to unify syria with someone else leading syria, no chance. ishful thinking. and to talk about a federation, he controls 40% of his former territory, there's it. we have syria and kurdistan already. we know the turks are not happy with it. there's a kurdish a autonomy -- autonomy in syria and in iraq. syria, the about sunnis tarts with the and other followers.
radical elements. so first of all, let's find a way to have a kind of federation or whatever and also agree to have this kind of federation. then fighting. the problem is, there are so many contradictory interests regarding the situation in syria, as an example, there are those who support, like iran, hezbollah, russia today, it's an intervention in siria. , en worse than politics believing iran should be a central part of the settlement, of the solution as i mentioned earlier.
they demonstrated their campaignabilities when they were supported. why not support other moderates in syria, like sunni moderates, to fight for their cause. most of them were ignored. western parties decided to sit on the fence. and the kurds in syria were defeated to the point that it started to get support and then you have to settle this contradictory interest with turkey. there is a need for different strategies regarding syria but the idea to unify syria back to become as it was in the past is specious thinking.
>> i'm from voice of america persian tv. last week, general lloyd aston told the senate foreign relations committee that the missile test is an invitation to atomice ability to carry war heads and they asked for the international community to enforce more pune ty measures against iran's ballistic missile test. you are going to meet with the defense secretary while you're here, what are you going to ask him regarding this? mr. ya'alon: i'm not going to tell you what i'm going to ask im but generally speaking,
there are at least three reasons today to sanction them, one is proliferation of arms. we have evidence that they deliver weapons to organizations in the region. to hezbollah, which is here now another organization, delivering money and weapons, advanced weapons and so forth. delivering weapons to hue tees. t's a violation of u.n. rules. , that's oneountries reason to sanction this region.
the second is the missiles, the ballistic missiles test. very provocative. believing that they are not going to be harmed because be. dn't and third is human rights issues. they succeeded in anxiousing the government. es, we hear that most of -- it succeeded to strength then grip of government nst last 30 years or so, going back to the revolution of 1979, hanging dissidents in the marketplace today. oppression system of if you are , there are easons t least three of them.
>> another question similar to what my colleague asked about the kurds. in 2014 when prime minister netanyahu became the first head of state to openly endorse an independent kurdistan he, said such a state would serve as a bulwark against the rise of islamic extremism. can you elaborate more on that from a military perspective, how would israel benefit from an independent kurdistan? the second question stherk u.s. led coalition against isis includes at least 60 nations. there doesn't seem to be any role to play in this coalition why is that? mr. miller: why don't you take one of the two questions, i want to see if we can get to some others as well.
mr. ya'alon: i'll take the first question in the middle east regarding the occupation nation states, it's a matter of democracy. there is a great description of winston churchill as secretary , talking about the boundaries of the region, straight lines, looking to jordan as an example, very nice example for the straight line to the east. the iraqi petroleum company pipelines to be defended on both sides, that was recommendation of the british office. on each straight line you can two things. we believe look to the future
autonomous whatever demography,rals you like in syria or in iraq or other countries, this might be a kind of allow stability. enjoy the autonomy in iraq and syria, we believe they should enjoy autonomy, the decision whether to be an infeint state or not should be considered regarding other considerations of -- in the region, internal consideration, external consideration, this is the way to bring about stability for the region. hat's why we do support. mr. miller: back here on my
left. >> eric rosenman from the committee on accuracy on the middle east reporting in america. given the lack of reconciliation on the palestinian side you mention from years back and the current manipulation of the al aqsa issue in terms of incitement, why doesn't israel, to the best of its ability, close down the mechanisms by which that's conveyed, palestinian tv, newspapers, disrupt social networks and so on? >> first of all, we do close but you know in the time of information, they can escape, they can overcome it, just last weekend we closed certain media assets, they found a way to use another satellite channel, the french channel had been closed so they used other satellite hannels.
the result in satellite channels this einternet issue, facebook, do deal wit, it's another area of war. we do not underestimate it. ut it's quite challenging. mr. miller: straight in the back. >> i'm with me american hellenic institute. we know and have heard a lot about the good existing registrationship between greece, cyprus, and israel. i was hoping you could speak to the importance of this regional port nearship and what it means to u.s. security and interests in the region. thank you. mr. ya'alon: israel has strategic relations with many countries in the region.
countries except jordan and egypt. to the west, we believe we are on the same platform regarding the challenges. and of course bearing in mind the potential exploitation we do share a lot of economic interests as well. that's why the relationships are so strong. i have been to greece recently and to cyprus recently and my counterpart has been to israel and prime minister netanyahu has been to greece and cyprus recently. yes. there's a lot to be done, regarding tourists between greece, cyprus, and israel. mr. miller: way in the back.
>> good morning. tom bergen with senator portman and the senate homeland security committee. during your remarks you talked about the m.o.u. and congress' current -- congress is currently negotiating the ndaa as well this year. in light of the challenges in the middle east, what -- which -- what recommendations do you have for congress in helping secure the middle east and particularly our relationship with israel? mr. ya'alon: my recommendation is for the congress and administration as well as our european allies and other allies in the region. israel is an island of stability in the region. let's imagine that israel doesn't exist.
you can imagine how many refugees might come from many countries in the region, from syria and -- not just from syria and iraq, but africa countries and others. and you know -- and in order to keep this island of stability, israel should be supported. supported politically, should be supported security wise, that's a lot of money, not to compare to the expenses of the wars around us. , as do share information we do share experience and technology as i mentioned, so this island of stability should be supported and we do enjoy the congress' support.
so i don't have to recommend the congress, i have to recommend to other elements in the region and beyond. >> i think we can take one final question. yes, in the back, second row. actually, last row, i guess. >> thank you. i'm from russian news agency, mr. minister, do you have any information or evidence of transferring russian weapons from syria to hezbollah? there was some concerns about it , do you share these concerns? and also, what can you say about syria and russians, there was some incidents as reported. thank you.
>> israel has diplomatic relationship to russian since 1991. for those who try to compare the situation of the old cold war, which is i felt. we do have common interests and we argue about certain interests in the region. st of all, regarding the coordination system between russian forces deployed in syria nd israel, we do have hotlines between tel aviv and the russian in which -- it is used in order to avoid any accidents, what we call taking safety precautions. so we don't have to coordinate our activities when we need to act. russians don't have to coordinate their activity. but we do have this kind of
coordination to avoid misunderstandings and accidents. very useful. on both sides. on the russian side or then eisraeli side, we have russian speakers. you know, we have officers who speak russian. nevertheless, we have at least one incident in which russian aircraft accidently crossed the , we toldas intercepted russian headquarters it was done nd immediately this aircraft crossed back the border from israel to syria. we are not happy from the fact weapon systems
delivered to our hostile enemies like hezbollah, hamas. the problem is the weapon these are delivered to kind of end users. of course when it happens, we provide our evidence like in the made lebanon war russian weapons were used against us and asked about it. russian react -- reaction was, we didn't sell -- we sold it to siria. so it's your responsibility to
inspect it. there are the case when russian made weapon assistance used by hamas, we prvide hard evidence for it. so we have a way to clarify with russian and hope that this would be settled. the fact that russian made weapons were sold to certain countries in region and then used by these organizations, we are not happy with it and it should be settled. but we do clarify everything. do i have to conclude? mr. miller: yes. mr. ya'alon: i want to emphasize that israel is going to celebrate 68 years of ndependence this coming may.
and looking back, 68 years of , dependence but even before israel is a successful enterprise. there are too many elements in ready to who are not reck size -- recognize our right to exist as a nation. not talking about the sunnis claiming the same claim, this is a secular islamic land, there is no room for a jewish state. a against all odds, we are country. by all means. first of all, the economy.
the result of our natural resources is a strong, prosperous economy. how come? our minds and our hearts, this signal. ll known we succeeded in using the abilities, disadvantages to become advantages. we were short of water. in the 1960's we fought for watt we are the syrians over the jordan river. today we don't have to fight for water. we supply water to our neighbors. to jordan, palestinian authority, gaza. why? because we used our sophisticated technology to
develop desalination facilities, making these advantages true advantages. this is the case even in the military. en it comes to quantity, the size of the country is the number of cities and population, the number of weapons and assistance. we have succeeded in developing and embracing technologies run by highly motivated, highly educated soldiers so when it comes to the f-16's, which we enjoy, and hopefully through the end of this year we will enjoy f-16i, f-16 israel. with certain israeli capabilities developed in the
israeli defense industries by sraeli minds and hearts. whether it's missiles or helmets or whatever. and we have an israeli pilot in the cockpit. highly motivated, highly educated. we believe that sharing our advantages is our neighbors. we try very hard. the palestinians enjoy our economy. other countries will be able to enjoy. certain countries, those who share with our peace accord, enjoying our advantages. but no doubt that looking around from our country to the entire looking to the east, unfortunately, the color
which is dominating is black and gray. smoke, fire. grip. and we share it. actually, we support the villages across the border, providing them support. as jews we can't afoid it. can't ignore it. food. blankets in the winter. all the needs. we are ready to share. this should get rid of reluctance of recognizing our right to exist as a nation state of the jewish people in this regard, like minded people shouldn't be manipulated and the seved by slogans and pock pation, apar these. there is no apartheid in israel whatsoever. the only christian community growing in the northeast today is the israeli-arab community
and we are proud of it. is not the case in lebanon or siria. >> we're going to break away from the last of this and take you live to the floor of the house for a series of votes. hou for consideration of the bill that 96 to ensure broadband internet can employment and cumbersome regulatory requirements and providing for consideration of the bill h.r. 3797 to establish the environmental protection agency shallish and implement and allocations for existing electric utilities steam generating units that convert coal into energy. the speaker pro tempore: referred to the house calendar and ordered printed. the chair lays before the house
an enrolled bill. the clerk: senate 1826, an act to designate the facility of the united states postal facility at 99 west 22nd street as the lieutenant post office. the speaker pro tempore: pursuant proceedings will resume on motions to. votes will be taken in the following order. is is. and each case by the yeas and nays, the first electronic vote will be conducted as a 15-minute vote and the remaining votes will be five-minute votes. pass s. 2426. the clerk will report. the clerk: senate 2426 an act to direct the secretary of state to obtain observer status and the criminal police station
organization and for other purposes. the speaker pro tempore: the question is will the house suspend the rules and pass the bill. this is a 15-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]
the speaker pro tempore: on this vote, the yeas are 381, the nays are 0. 2/3 being in the affirmative, the rules are suspended and without objection the motion to reconsider is laid on the table. the unfinished business is the vote on the motion by the gentleman from new jersey to suspend the rules and agree to h.con.res. 75 on which the yeas and nays are ordered. the clerk will report the title of the concurrent resolution. the clerk: house concurrent resolution 75, concurrent resolution expressing the sense of congress that those who commit or support atrocities against christians and other
ethnic and religious minorities are ing turkmen, committing and are hereby declared to be committing war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide. the speaker pro tempore: members will record their votes by electronic device. this is a five minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]
the table. without objection the title is amended. the up finished business is the vote on the motion of the gentleman from new jersey, mr. smith, to suspend the rules and agree to house concurrent resolution 121 as amended. the clerk will report the thifmente resolution. the clerk: house concurrent resolution 121, concurrent resolution expressing the sense of the congress condemning the gross violations of international law amounting to war crimes and crimes against humanities by the government of syria, its allies and other parties to the conflict in syria and asking the president to direct his ambassador at the united nations to promote the establishment of a war crimes tribunal where these crimes could be addressed. the speaker pro tempore: the question is, will the house suspend the rules and agree to the concurrent resolution as amended? members will record their votes by electronic device. this is a five-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of