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plus your comments and tweets. washington journal is live on c-span. host: the polls have closed in wisconsin. it is 9:00 in the east. during the evening the results from the wisconsin primary, the only contest today. we have the speeches. senator ted cruz has gathered with his supporters. this is a must when state. we are in laramie, wyoming where bernie sanders has an ion the caucuses. senator sanders has won five of the last six contests. wisconsin is a must when state. there are 89 pledged and 10
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superdelegates. there are 45 for the republicans. the results and speeches coming up in the next couple of hours. what is motivating voters across the country? they say it is anger, anger at wall street, anger at politics. >> thank you for having me. >> what was the premise behind this series? think there is a lot of about what is happening in the tontry based on who you talk . people don't fully understand why people are voting the way they do.
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david merrin and i said out over the course to talk to as many people as we can and discover what is happening with the idea of the american identity. host: let's talk about the exit polls in wisconsin. if you think percent of voters say they are dissatisfied with washington. saying they are angry at washington. they say that came up through the series. guest: absolutely. the first and most common thought is people are angry at the idea of they believe to be the american dream no longer functions as it did when they were a child, or what they were told it would be as they were growing up. even more than anger, what we have found is an unsettling feeling, that the very fabric of what makes us american was
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changing. for some people they felt less doubt. felt thele opportunities in america were better than ever before. arnold trumpabout and ted cruz. we do not expect to hear from donald trump this evening. how have these candidates channeled the frustration toward supporters? donald trump is the center of how the election is functioning. what he has been able to do, to tap into that on settlement in a way no other candidate with the exception of bernie sanders has. gone into the message with people who have seen wages stagnated, values questioned and said everyone is saying you are wrong. you don't have the skills, you don't have the ideas of what it
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means to be american anymore. you are not wrong. you are quite right. believe in me. we'll bring the america you once believed in again. that has been an effective message. for senator cruz it has changed. he was very much the evangelical candidate. the candidate for those who are worried about some of social issues. that they felt like they were being treated as bigots or medieval for believing in gay marriage -- for not believing in gay marriage, and believing in evolution. he has become the candidate most likely to be donald trump. for those worried about donald trump's comments about women, his slaphappy style of campaigning, his anger, ted cruz
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has become the chief alternative. host: we want to welcome our listeners. online,es is available looking for america. we are keeping an i on the results in the wisconsin primary. senator ted cruz and his supporters have gathered. part of what you wrote, so much anger out there in america. each presidential campaign has its own rhythm and meeting. this unfolded with dizzying intensity. if that with the, nation of so many long emerging trends in american life. ofwe have seen so many ways
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political cycles changed with the invention of 24 hour television and the idea politics has become entertainment and infotainment. that filters to the ideas that people receive and how people perceive this election. that is a part of what we are saying. that started long earlier, long before barack obama's attraction. he was the candidate who said he would upend washington through the optimistic ideals of hope and change. that the justice system wasn't working. and a symbolic person to represent what the person is.
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caller: donald trump has been the embodiment of this anger. .his tweet from rick klein based on the early exit poll numbers he is saying the anti- trump vote is coalescing around ted cruz. guest: i think that goes to show how divided the country is. it goes to show the difference in what people expect from a leader. for some people in america the braggadocio of how people have been wronged is an attractive thing to them. they see someone who is rich and aspirational, who succeeded at
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the idea of the american green -- american dream. for ted cruz the story is different. they are afraid of the braggadocio donald trump has pretrade and are looking for someone a little bit levelheaded but still has so many of the believes washington has left the people, a lot of politicians have not been responsive to the fact wages have stagnated in so many parts of america. politicians are allowing liberal forces to dictate the values of what it means to be american. they are coalescing around someone who has more experience and tact. davidse who remember broder, this series seems like an extension of what he did so well, talking to voters. one of the great things that we have been missing journalistically in this time of
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punditry is the ability to go out and talk to actual people. the seriousness of the candidacy caught us off guard. my belief is that if we talk to that oldre, if we did american tradition of asking our neighbors how are you doing, how are you feeling, we would have understood what was going on in the country better. this was her chance to correct some of those missteps. according to the network results and early leads for senator cruz and senator sanders , which reflects with the polls were saying. the contest will be moving to new york on april 19, and the
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big northeastern primaries with pennsylvania, rhode island and connecticut, culminating in prime -- in early june. you said, what raging current in allowerican public would this meant to break every role of modern politics. the answer was in the question to a certain extent. guest: yes. that is what we have discovered. this is not -- there is a belief that the rise of trump and trumpism is the idea of people who are not in the political system joining the political system. we so i a lot of people who had ,een engaged in politics feeling they were not the ones
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making the decisions anymore. they were dictating the goals and ideas of what means to be a republican. hopefully give more power to the people who are electing officials as opposed to the donors who were supporting officials. >> while we await to hear from senator cruz, robert samuels in our studios joining us talk about his series, looking for america available online. our lines are open. you profile a number of interesting people in your series. which one stood out? >> there are a few. one of the persons was a man in dubuque, iowa.
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old, the first to me ever voted in his life was for barack obama in 2008. after 2008 he was completely upset at the evolution of obama's presidency. he felt his stance on gun control went against the constitution, the personal feelings and affinities he had to his gun collection. how hunting help keep them out of trouble when he was a kid. he change pretty quickly to a republican. when we met him he was making many are making in the country nowadays, choosing between donald trump and ted cruz. we watched him try to make that decision. he took in as much information as he could. he talked to his friends. day, when he the was at the iowa caucus he looked
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to his 15-year-old son and realized all the noise of asitics did not mean as much a conversation with someone who was in his household. i thought that was instructive about the way americans are experiencing politics. for his son it was clear. that person was donald trump. a younger person who stood out to me was a 19-year-old sophomore, who was a student in south carolina state university, a public black college. for her and her friends, they were trying to understand whether politics itself would be the agent to make themselves more included in the american having aaybe it was blog and being proactive on twitter. maybe it was understanding of the black lives matter movement and working outside of the system to put pressure on politicians to change the justice system.
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debating whether or not hillary clinton would be someone who could carry that mantle despite everything she 1990's, which she found offensive and scary. she ended up voting for bernie sanders because of those reasons. typifies thekramer frustration we are seeing among the electorate. george w. bush and his decision to invade iraq that it was falsewhen pretenses. she didn't know where to start with the president. his inability to lead, executive orders. talk about her sentiments. prototypicals the elder statesman of a county gop
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in iowa. she was running her 11th county precinct caucus. she had loved republican politics. she really felt something happened. she was trying to understand why it was. she felt she needed to do her part to help soften it. when george bush had that discomfort of going to iraq under false pretenses she started questioning whether or not political leaders were being forthright and honest, and who they thought they had to be answerable to. with barack obama she hopes even though he was a democrat he would be able to do what he said he wanted to do, drove the country together to have a large national conversation. as the obama presidency continued she felt she was left
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out of the process. barack obama did what he wanted, he was not responding to the fact that congress was changing hands, and he did not hold true to the value she held true to. that turned her off. i want someone who continues the legacy of barack obama. the answer to those questions, no. she was a 70-year-old woman, not a young person who you could be as so manys a big it trump supporters are stereotyped. she was a woman concerned about her country, and the idea of american democracy. this may not surprise you.
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the drilling down of the exit poll numbers, pointing in wisconsin, nine out of 10 young voters supporting bernie sanders over hillary clinton. sanders at 87%. these based on the network exit poll numbers. guest: that is not surprising at all. , there is anple urgent need for change pretty hillary clinton is not the person who personifies that. her are concerned about genuine nature. they are concerned about her judgment. the fact that for many issues they care about she was on the wrong side for a long time. she supported the war in iraq. 1994 crimeported the bill. those things concerned her. and her connection to big banks.
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bernie sanders was hammering on all of those things. for many of the college students went to a frat house debate party in new the leadingnd college on republicans was there. the entire room agreed on one thing. they felt hillary clinton was trustworthy and not -- was untrustworthy. host: we are pleased robert hamilton is joining us. we are keeping and i on the -- we are pleased robert samuels is joining us. senator sanders is ahead of hillary clinton. let's bring in your calls. the democrats line, good evening.
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caller: good evening. i have a couple of comments. i am a democrat. i vote across party lines havese i sometimes -- we democrats and republicans. i vote across party lines because they are the best people. , i votedmpaign trails time and iobama last will vote for hillary clinton this time. nothing has ever said and i can't figure out why it is, hillary clinton voted for the war in iraq. premeditated on the fact that it was a complete lie.
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why they went, they should have never went. nobody ever talks about it. and what they don't talk about when bill clinton 65 -- i was 65. in the middle of the year he 2%,sed the taxes retroactive to the first of the year. i was mad about that. at the end of the year i got it all back when i filed my income tax. host: you are still supporting hillary clinton. caller: absolutely. i'm not saying nothing bad about bernie. he is a good guy. but i like clinton. she has taken a lot of flak.
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on theer hear about this campaign trail at all. clinton left office, and george w. bush was elected, because of the race he made on taxes, there was -- we owed nothing to nobody and there was $17 billion -- trillion dollars in excess of funds turned over to george w. bush. host: i'm going to stop you there because you put a lot of issues on the table. senator cruz has won the wisconsin primary. we saw some cheers inside the cruise campaign headquarters. samuels, two hanks point, your thoughts? guest: one of the things that hank helps illustrate, there is
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direct narrative for many people who are voting this year. this is a complicated and messy election. values, whatighing they think a politician should do. they are giving a lot of despite they are voting for. hillary clinton's decision to go to the war in iraq does come up in subtle ways, in the idea of she canment, that independently make good decisions on her own prefer and people who support bernie sanders and who support public and candidates, they say no, she cannot. when big decisions are needed to be made she was on the wrong side of them. winner also the
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democratic side. senator sanders has defeated hillary in the wisconsin primary. he is where me wyoming. -- laramie, wyoming. caller: good evening. i have been a republican my whole life. i came from india. this would be 40 years i came to this great country. i am looking for a candidate. -- everyone is talking about the problems in america. i know this so much but i think we should look at america today and what we can do to bring america back. what i am looking for is a is verye that spiritual, very close to god. to make god the center.
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-- god's hands was in this great country when i came here. when i landed in new york, i saw the beauty of america. why was america so great? 's hand was in this great country. i'm looking at all the republican candidates, looking at ted cruz. nobody is perfect. but i'm asking the american people, i know there are so many problems. we can blame everybody. but what we can do now that america really needs each other, we're so busy fighting among --h other, and not relying realizing we are hurting each other. we need to look deep into it and rely on divine intervention. host: thank you for the call. what the caller said is a
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sentiment that is very real in the country. they see a division that years ago did not exist. or they did not feel exists. there is this idea that there needs to be some sort of nationwide healing that will bring people back to the ideal american value. the problem is people have very differing ideas about what whatcan values are, righteous causes are. the country should not be able to compromise on them. we characterize as evangelical voters, those ideas were the principle that the country had to adhere to principles of their god or a value,like her righteous
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that the country would be able to treat her brother with dignity as he was walking down the street, and to have the idea that he wouldn't be arrested or harassed by a police officer. peoplee really agrees need to be more united. the tricky part of all of this is that people can't decide on what things they are willing to compromise. host: let me take the caller's point in another excerpt. for every disgruntled person out there felt undone by the system caught in the bind of stagnant wages longing for an america of the past we found someone who still felt optimistic about the future and had no desire to go back. guest: absolutely. notof the things that is appreciated in this country is some people feel despite all the
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issues, it is good they are being excavated. people who did not feel they had a voice in the american ideal now feel they have more of a voice. the one person who i spoke with who said the past eight years were the greatest eight years of his life, a gay man who lived in kentucky. he saw the country migrate and evolve to a position that was more amenable to his sexual orientation. for a lot of young people they thought it was wonderful their voices could actually be heard through social media, through political organizations. the pressure they could put on the candidate. for them, that idea made them feel war -- more american. people are appreciating this is a diverse country and people had to cater and realize there are
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different ideals. for people, this idea is scary. they preferred a simpler time when people believe the same things. one of the interesting anecdotes was we talked to a pastor who was a ted cruz supporter. he said we want america to be more like the 1950's. when we say that, everyone things we're talking about bigotry. everyonee that time adhere to godly principles. contrast that to mary robinson, a 70 rolled person who was in a trump hotel in nevada. an african-american from the south. she said when we talk about taking the country back to that time it's one of the scariest things i can hear. what does that mean. when white people controlled everything? the idea of going back to that
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was frightening and disheartening for her. host: one of the bellwether county's is brown county, home to the green bay packers. a breakdown, county by county. this is what it looks like. getting 54, 50 5% of the vote in brown county. donald trump with 38% of the vote. only 2% of the vote. he's holding onto a significant lead. compared to 28.7%. .nd john kasich at 15% 2% of the vote reporting. senator bernie sanders leading with 56% of the vote compared to 43.7% of the vote for hillary clinton.
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good evening. i'm a democrat. for me, it doesn't matter if it's hillary or bernie built -- i like alloy for the experience. the democrats have to become one. the southto go to like arkansas, mississippi, louisiana. the situation is kind of dad down there. they need to go down there, talk to them, expand their strategy. in play, put arizona in play, north carolina back in play. republicans, i don't want them back in the white house because i feel that trickle-down economics, they're going to do the same thing.
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they talk about the same thing. the democrats, they have to come as one. whoever wins the primary, they have to, as one and obama has to get in the game also because his term is almost. -- almost up. thank you. you mentioned the president, one of the backed up figures in your series. how does he fear among those you conversed with? the idea of how president obama is doing is one of the most divisive ideas in the country. for some people. one of the most interesting things is that everyone really wanted president obama to do well when they talk about him. they are hoping that he would be able to lead to some idea of racial reconciliation. the interesting thing was that
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when obama started talking about race, one segment of the country the it was too far, that idea of highlighting difference was an offensive thing that made them feel a less american. of course you are a person of color, he probably thought a little differently. he thought he didn't talk about race enough, that it was good he was introducing some of those issues but you wish he wanted to further. the first thing that really makes the obama's presidency and legacy very tricky for people, particularly in swing states experiencing demographic changes , there is a lot of division howeverw well he did, -- how effective he was calm and whether or not he held true to the values they hold dear. a lot of people believe he was manning a train that was moving
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away from the ideals they felt was important and the idea he wasn't paying attention. a big chunk of the country was frightened and upset about some asthe things he was doing the executive of the country. good evening. i have been listening very carefully to the other people. i'm a republican and actually going to vote for donald trump. the reason being having met daily personal and that self entitlement she feel is owed to her is outrageous. the fact she tells women we have to join together to support her, she didn't earn it. -- shehe can explain
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should be under indictment, not running for president. if indeed one of the democrats do when come i would hope it would be bernie sanders over but if they steal the election from donald trump, i will launch a major campaign to get every republican i know to transfer over to another party because the republicans are going to lose big if they don't come out and support the person who gets the most votes by the people. our conversation with traversingon the overall anger people have toward washington, institutions. do you share that sentiment? i think the obama presidency as the biggest on job in the country. i think we did not get what we were promised by him. i think washington, if they flew everybody out -- through
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everybody out and started from scratch. they take it as a career job and they do what they want and they don't care about the people. can you stay on the line? i would like to give robert same as response and follow-up with you. the sentiment that debbie is expressing is very typical of what republicans are saying. for those who are supporting donald trump, they're making a statement that they do not believe washington is working in the way it's supposed to work peoplet groups of elite have dictated what is best for the republican party and also what is best for the people who vote for republicans. it is not unusual that a republican candidate -- republican voter would feel that if donald trump wins the most
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delegates, the majority of votes and does not get the nomination, that it would be further evidence of the problem with the republican party. many say they will migrate or not vote at all. the other thing i think is important the study highlighted is this idea of entitlement by hillary clinton, one of the most popular buttons we saw across the country. this idea that she had round people during her term as secretary of state. or democrats, the argument is different. they think -- and elusive what are's think if anyone is entitled to be president, it's hillary clinton. she has a very long résume, a lifetime in washington. eight years of the idealistic visions of hope and change that barack obama illustrated in this country that
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it might be time for a more pragmatic type of candidate to win. of person we seek supporting hillary clinton is the person who feels hillary clinton is kind of a placeholder, that she will carry on the good and barack obama did , and she will lead and he will get another candidate who they are excited about. it doesn't seem like there is a lot of visceral excitement about secretary clinton. host: we're keeping an eye in milwaukee where senator cruz is gathering for supporters. he might be at the podium shortly. let's go back to debbie. as you hear what robertson notes said, a quick comment. he is actually looking at both sides of the party. both issues. butary is very talented she's not qualified to be our
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president. donald trump is outspoken, a businessman. when he the my favorite toys? no. but out of the choices we have, we need to get our country on its feet, close the borders until we get every american fed with jobs and give our veterans housing. then we can open up the borders. host: your thoughts. i think debbie speaks to a very large segment of the country. that the policies that donald trump has become known for our policies speak to the idea of american conceptualism, that the country is great, the people who get thee get the f -- best opportunity they can. i think people underestimate the much lucypeople
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donald trump as a successful person. that they love his television show, he comes to these airports in relatively small towns and he becomes the symbol of american success and an american triumph. for people who have had a rough go over the past few years, to have that idea, that men in office who has been successful in something that's not politics is a very attractive idea no matter what he says. host: what was her personal take away from working on this series? we journalists in washington, we spent a lot of time pontificating, thinking about the orders. ideas of thet the
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low information voter. peoplefound was that still take this american privilege of voting very seriously, that they're thinking about the issues and about how it relates to their lives. that's a very important thing to this electionat is not about low information voters, it's about voters who are concerned about the country, who feel unsettled about it and want to do something to set that course rate -- right. when you start with that idea, you find more interesting answers that almost a reaffirm the idea that people take american democracy seriously. host: let's reset the stage and remind those listening on c-span radio that we are keeping an eye on the results in this gobs -- in milwaukee. andn the exit poll numbers
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these early numbers, senator cruz winning easily in the republican primary at nearly 49% of the vote compared four donald trump. governor john kasich coming in third. on the democratic side, an early victory for bernie sanders. this is what 70% of the democratic vote in and hillary at 47.8% of the vote. we may have to break away if senator cruz comes to the podium. let's go to fred from new jersey. caller: thank you so much for having mr. samuels, he is a great guest. i'm interested in knowing more about mr. samuels because i've read a number of books by david moran us and i think the
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introduction to the series sounds so well-written. agreems of myself, i do very much with deadly with much of what she had to say and i'm wondering whether your series talks about -- other black person, i find myself very torn between trump and bernie. john lewis and the congressional black caucus came up to hillary, berniethat he never saw during the civil rights movement, they had nothing to do with the civil rights movement and said hillary and bill were there when they were much younger and hillary have been associated with goldwater, i felt like this was a tremendous insult to my intelligence and that pushed me over to trump and bernie is out, hillary is getting it from the guess they are
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expecting most black people to become enough to just listen to them. and the same thing with women. that has just pushed me over very easily to the trump line. what hurts my feelings is when i see the press act as though it's only angry white males who support donald trump when i know plenty of blacks, latinos, other minorities, women who support trump who were also torn between trump and bernie and people who are switching parties to go over to register for trump seeing what has happened. host: thank you for the call. we will get a response from our guest. i'm a reporter with 10 years experience and i have
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worked for several newspapers. people anding to doing stories like this. but the idea of trumpet versus sanders is not an unusual idea in this country. thiswe are seeing is sentiment with the political sentiment and is attracting candidates that aren't a part of that political system. the twoon't believe party system is really working, it doesn't matter who is a democrat and a republican. the most effective thing bernie sanders has done is exhibit a contrast between how hillary clinton treats the black community and how he treats the black community. former state senator from ohio, nina turner, who says we are not someone's firewall full's you have to are in our votes.
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four people dissatisfied with hillary clinton, it's a persuasive argument. donald trump because of his statements on immigration, because of his past history with the racial questions in new york city, it's a bit harder for him to attract black voters and minority voters and women voters. but those who do -- and you know, if you look at the rallies, you will not see a diversity.e of but for those who do, they are attracted to the idea he's a businessman, that he has been successful, and that he's honest. and we're not talking about in terms of a it's a fact or not but in terms of him saying what he believes. he does not seem prepackaged or rehearsed. that is a breath of fresh air for people. that is what makes him attractive. host: proper signals of the
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washington post. thank you for being with us. -- robert samuels of the washington post. we take you now to milwaukee. governor scott walker. [applause] >> thanks to all of you for coming out. [applause] >> we are nice, but we are not push overs. commonsensed what reforms mean, what it means to have principal conservative leadership because we have done it here in the great state of wisconsin. [applause]
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we don't need leaders who talk about how bad things are, we went leaders who will inspire our country going forward and not is like a night, we will celebrate a tremendous victory for ted cruz, the next president. [applause] ted cruz is someone who has stood up and fought the big government special interest in washington. he is going to do exactly the same thing for all the people. [applause] >> i want to thank all of you that as wisconsin has been a leader in the past, we are proud to be a leader in joining a turning point in this election. [applause]
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>> this is the night when we can look back and say that was the time that turned the tide in the luncheon that took ted cruz home to be the nominee. [applause] a warmer wisconsin welcome to the next president of the united states, ted cruz. [applause] ♪
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[applause] god bless the great state of wisconsin. [applause] >> thank you for your tremendous governor, governor scott walker. [applause] >> tonight is a turning point. it is a rallying cry.
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it is a call from the hard-working men and women of wisconsin that we have a choice. a real choice. parade.onal political 69%he state of utah, we won of the vote, a landslide. [applause] >> we got every single delegate in the state. three days ago in colorado, two congressional districts voted. once again, all six delegates we won. [applause] then two days ago in north dakota, we had another tremendous when.
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18 delegates are supporting our campaign. one is supporting donald trump. [applause] to one, i will take that ratio any day of the week. [applause] now tonight, just three weeks ago, the media said wisconsin was a perfect state for donald trump. but the hard-working men and women of wisconsin campaigned tirelessly to make sure tonight was a victory. [applause]
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utah, colorado, north dakota, wisconsin. [applause] just how significant is tonight? just today, our campaign has raised over $2 million. [applause] people all over the country going to tedcruz.org. [applause]
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over 1.3 million contributions. [applause] in the last two weeks, and in the coming days when colorado and wyoming finished voting, we are likely to have gained over 100 delegates on donald trump. [applause] and as a result of the people of wisconsin to find the media, i am more and more convinced that our campaign is willing to earn the 1237 delegates. [applause]
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either before cleveland or advocate mentioned in cleveland, together, we will win a majority of the delegates and together, we will beat hillary clinton. [applause] tonight was a bad night for hillary clinton. night in the democratic primary and it was an even worse night for her in the republican primary. [applause] we are winning because we are uniting the republican party. the 17 candidates who started this race, a terrific, talented, dynamic field, five have now
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endorsed to this campaign. [applause] rick perry and lindsey graham and jeb bush and carly fiorina. [applause] end wisconsin's own governor scott walker. [applause] when you toss in senator mike lee and mark lovin -- [applause] the full spectrum of the republican party coming together and uniting behind of this campaign. [applause]
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in 1960, accepting the democratic party's nomination, john f. kennedy observed "i think the american people expect more from us then cries of indignation and attack. , theimes are too grave challenge to urgent, the stakes too high to permit the customary passion of political debates. we are not here to curse the darkness but to light the candle that can guide us to see through that darkness to a safe and sane future. as winston churchill said on taking office, if we open a quarrel, between the presence in the past, we shall be in danger of losing the future. is true of today.
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tonight, wisconsin has lit a candle guiding the way forward. tonight, we once again have hope for the future. [applause] tonight is about unity and tonight is about hope. young people in america once again have hope that we will bring jobs back to america. [applause] by repealing obamacare, passing it to -- [applause] reining in the federal regulators that are killing small businesses. passing a flat tax. [applause]
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and abolishing the irs. [applause] we will unleash incredible economic growth. our border will finally be made secure and sanctuary cities will end. [applause] and mechanics and plumbers and steel workers, union members, men and women with calluses on their hand will once again see wages rising, opportunity expand. moms struggling to make ends meet will see take-home pay
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rising. common core ending. [applause] catholic schools and jewish day see a supremeoon court of protects their religious liberty. [applause] freedom of every one of us to live according to .ur faith and our conscience we will see a supreme court that protects the second right to keep and bear arms. [applause]
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and our fundamental right to and our homesmily and our children. we will see a president who stands with israel. [applause] ,learly and unapologetically instead of negotiating with terrorism, we will rip to shreds this catastrophic iranian nuclear deal. [applause] we will defeat radical islamic terrorism and we will utterly
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destroy isis. [applause] we will have a president who keeps us safe. to the soldiers and sailors, the airmen and marines, the police officers and firefighters and first responders who risk their safe, we-- to keep us will have a commander-in-chief who has your back. [applause] freedom and security, that is what this next election is all about.
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in 1980, milton and rose free to choose. they explain that the american free enterprise system has been the greatest engine for opportunity and prosperity, that the world has ever seen. too much government can stifle opportunity. but if we get washington out of the way, then there is no limit to what we can accomplish. [applause] it is what allowed my dad to leave cuba and come to america with nothing, washing dishes making him $.50 a day to start a business and today to be a pastor traveling the country. [applause]
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it's what allowed my irish italian mother to become the first in her family to go to smash glass ceilings by becoming a pioneering computer programmer. [applause] heidihat allowed my wife -- [applause] [chanting] [applause] i may be biased, but isn't she
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going to make an amazing first lady? [applause] >> we love you, wisconsin. [applause] missionariesild of , my best friend in the world, and she has become a successful business leader, a loving mother and every day, she is teaching our daughters caroline and catherine that strong women can accomplish anything in the united states of america. [applause] that's america. it's what we are fighting for.
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our children, our future, and wisconsin has made clear we are free to choose [applause] . centuries, america has been a shining city on a hill, a "pretty to the world, and we can and will be once again. [applause] so i ask you at home to join us as we continue to unite independents and libertarians and reagan democrats and americans who care about our future who want jobs,
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we'vem, security just as done in wisconsin we are doing all across this country. [applause] and governor let me tell you, my look for work to coming back to the state of wisconsin this fall. [applause] the firstember for time since 1984, painting the badger state bright republican red. [applause]
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so let me just say, hillary, get ready, here we come. god bless you. [applause] ♪
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>> senator ted cruz declaring victory tonight in milwaukee .oined by governor scott walker
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today.y primary held a significant win for senator ted cruz now with 31% of the vote. donald trump, a distant second at 30.6% of the vote. that translates to about 175,000 votes compared to hillary .linton we continue to watch the scene in milwaukee as senator cruz greets well-wishers. live this hourly bailey, following all of this for yahoo! news. with anow in new york eye on the next big primary contest.
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let's talk about senator cruz. did he do what he expected to do tonight and what does this do for the stop trunk movement? >> there's no question a victory in wisconsin, that's a huge win for ted cruz. wait towe will have to see if this does breed life into the trunk movement. we do see the contest shift. he leads in pennsylvania and connecticut and maryland. ted cruz one huge in the suburbs of milwaukee. one potential weakness trump has always had is with suburban voters. he lost a northern virginia. these comments largely
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suburban republicans. he will have to work hard to win those over. we will not be hearing from hillary clinton attending some fundraisers earlier today and donald trump, no public events tonight. what is your read into that? not surprising to me. having been covering donald trump, usually has not had an election and event. he's expected to lose i think. same for hillary clinton. in recent days, the clinton campaign has already been suggesting she is not necessarily expecting a win in wisconsin. again, this has been an unusual campaign. whereied to think back to
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if we ever saw candidates even if they lost. it seems very unusual. let's move ahead to the next major contest. now is then and wyoming caucuses where senator bernie sanders is tonight. what can we expect? what are you looking at the for the big primary? lot insides are doing a new york and ted cruz is coming here to new york. he was here signaling he will really try to fight here. for ted cruz, one of the things he will try to do is play on the fact that people here know who donald trump is. out alland you pointed the people that trumps supported before.
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reminding them donald trump has supported democratic candidates. he really wants to win his home state. this is something that has been going on for decades. he is always felt like you was looked down upon by the establishment. i think he will really try to have a big victory here in order to have some bragging rights for his campaign. not dodoes overwhelmingly well, that's sort of an embarrassment for her. she has campaigned all over the state. if bernie sanders even gets close, that's not very good for her. graham,nator lindsey not a fan over the years of senator ted cruz, with a tweet earlier tonight basically saying well done. your reaction to that.
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-- your reaction to that. guest: even ted cruz has joked about the fact he's never been endorsed by someone who also said he wanted to kill him. ted cruz does try to catch what's happening right now as the public in party uniting behind it. he does make an allusion to burning together the reagan coalition but it's not necessarily they are uniting behind him because and like him, they are uniting behind him because they want to deny donald trump the nomination. see people like lindsey graham and ted cruz camping together again at some point. the establishment and people like that are desperate to do anything they can to stop donald trump from giving -- getting all the delegates needed before the convention in july.
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>> earlier today, saying he expects to take this campaign all the way to the democratic convention. based on what happened tonight, could we possibly potentially maybe see two conventions we've never seen before? give very much.
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we will take you now to wyoming. bernie sanders to airing victory tonight in the wisconsin primary for them -- in the wisconsin primary. [applause] ♪ >> thank you. i was told that there were about 5000 people who participated in the last wyoming caucus. all of them are here tonight. [applause] thank you very much. for coming out and let me remind everybody that we have got a
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really important caucus here. on saturday, doors open at 9:00 a.m.. let's be there, lets win in wyoming. i don't know if the audience here knows it but it has been projected by think all of the networks that we won in wisconsin. [applause] [chanting] now let me say a word.
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maybe two words. about what moment in the is all about. is starting this campaign 11 months ago and the media determining that we were a fringed candidacy. moment him is starting a behindn 60 to 70 points secretary clinton. momentum is within the last couple weeks, there have been national polls that have us one point up or one point down. momentum is that when you look at national polls or when you look at statewide polls, we are
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by veryg donald trump significant numbers. [applause] and in almost every instance in national polls and state polls, our margin over trump is wider than is secretary clinton's. [applause] with a victory in wisconsin let me take this opportunity to thank the people of wisconsin for their strong support. with our victory in tonight and wisconsin, we have won seven out of eight of the last caucuses. [applause]
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we have one almost all of them with overwhelming landslide numbers. [applause] about is thatm is at a time in contemporary politics when every major candidate has a super pac, we have said no to super pac's, said no to the billionaires who fund those super pac's. [applause] and what we have done is in an unprecedented manner in american history, we have up to this point in the campaign received
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over 6 million individual campaign contributions. [applause] anyone here know what the average contribution is? >> $27. >> that's exactly right. smart crowd. $27. to paraphrase abraham lincoln at gettysburg, this is a campaign of the people, for the people, by the people. [applause] we have decided we do not represent the billionaire class. we do not represent wall street
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or the drug companies or the fossil fuel industry. [applause] and we do not want their money. [applause] in is about is my belief that if we wake up the american people and if working people and middle-class people and senior citizens and young up, fightin to stand back, and come out and vote in large numbers, there is nothing that we cannot accomplish. [applause] and what we have been seeing his
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extraordinary voter turnouts in state after state after state. and i am particularly grateful and pleased that at a time when pundits, those young people don't want to get involved in politics, they aren't really concerned about the major issues facing our country, they are too busy with their video games or whatever, you know what is happening? all over this country, young people are standing up and determinewant to help the future of this country. [applause]
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what moment him is about is that all across this country, the american people are looking around them and they understand that real change in our , whether it isry a civil rights movement, whether it is the women's movement, the gay rights movement -- [applause] changederstand that real never, ever takes place from the top on down. it always takes place from the bottom on up. today from coast-to-coast, what
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people are saying is why is it that in america we have a grotesque levels of income and wealth inequality? why is it that the top 1/10 of now owns almost as much wealth as the bottom 90%? why is it that for the last 30 years, the great middle class of this country has been shrinking and almost all new income and wealth is going to the top 1%? the american people are asking why is it that women go to work tomorrow and their earning $.79 on the dollar compared to men? [applause]
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people are asking how does it that the united states of america, our great nation, is the only major country on earth not to guarantee paid family and medical leave? [applause] women giving birth in wyoming and wisconsin and vermont today but they will have to go back to work in two or three weeks because they don't have the income to take care of their family, which is why passher, we are going to three months paid family and medical leave. [applause] and the american people are affordable -- yes
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the affordable care act has done a lot of good things. thank you, president obama, for your leadership. but in terms of health care, there is much more that has to be done. and the american people are asking why does it happen that every other major country on earth -- united kingdom, france, germany, holland, scandinavia guarantees health care to all of i write except the united states and together, we will change that. [applause] and the american people are
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asking and young people are that we ares it living in an increasingly competitive global economy, why is it that kids are graduating college $70,000 in the debt? and in some cases, spending decades having to pay off that debt? peopleld be rewarding who get the education they need, not punishing them. [applause] and the american people are happen whenoes it
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the scientists all over our country who study climate change and scientists all over the world are in virtual unanimous agreement that climate change is real, it is caused by human activity, it is already causing devastating problems in our country and around the world. how do we have a republican party that refuses to even acknowledge the reality of climate change? [applause] and the american people are asking how does it happen that we can spend trillions of dollars fighting a war in iraq
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that we never should have gotten but that irst place in flint, michigan, and cities all over this country, our inner cities are crumbling. unemployment off the charts. health care system not acceptable. kids dropping out of high chool. too many being arrested and sent to jail. how come we can rebuild the infrastructure of iraq and afghanistan but we cannot rebuild our own crumbling infrastructure? [applause]
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and the american -- the american as they asking, assemble all over this country, why can we not end a campaign finance system which is corrupt and which is undermining american democracy? [applause] democracy is not a complicated process. it means that you have a vote and you have a vote and you have a vote and majority wins. what democracy is not about is billionaires buying elections. [applause]
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and the american people are asking another very important and profound question and that question is, how does it happen in the wealthiest nation in the history of the world that we have more people in jail than any other country on earth? [applause] and what the american people are saying is that now is the time to invest in our young people in terms of jobs and occasion, not jails and incarceration. [applause] nd some of you have recently heard about the discovery and the revelations about the tax
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dodging that is taking place in pan marks which is one of the reasons they oppose the free-trade agreement with panama. [applause] and one of the reasons i was on the floor of the senate talking exactly about what i feared would happen and that is wealthy people and large corporations figuring out ways to avoid paying their fair share of taxes. [applause] and what the american people are massive , at a time of income and wealth inequality, how does it happen that you have large, profitable multinational corporations who in a given year ake zero, not a penny in
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federal income taxs? now, change, real change comes about whether it is fight racism, worker exploitation, sexism, homophobia. real change comes about when people stand up and they look around them and they say you know what the status quo is not working. we can do better. [applause] and let me give you many examples -- i can give you many examples but let me give you the most contemporary example of what happens when people stand up and fight back. if we were here in this beautiful auditorium five years ago, not a long time from an
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historical perspective and somebody would have jumped up and said you know, i think a $720 federal minimum wage is a mum wage deral mini is a starve vacation wage and it has got to be raised to $15 an hour. five years ago the person next to them would have said you're nuts, 15 bucks an hour? you're crazy. maybe $, $9 an hour but 15 bucks an hour? you're dreaming. you are unrealistic. it can't be done. think smaller. but then what happened is fast-food workers, people working at mcdonald, people working at burger king, people working at wendy's, they went out on strike and i was very
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proud to join with those work anniversary washington. [applause] washington. [applause] and they went out and they said, fellow americans, we can't live hour. 5 an we can't live on 8 bucks an hour. you have to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour. and they fought and they fought and then suddenly a few years ago, seattle, washington, 15 bucks an hour. [applause] los angeles, san francisco, 15 bucks an hour. [applause] oregon, 15 bucks an hour. and in the last several weeks in both california and new york, governors signed legislation for
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15 bucks an hour. [applause] what is my assistant my point is the yes, we can change status quo when we think big and when we have a vision. [applause] now, i am -- i am not naive. i know the power of wall street and their endless supplies of money. i know that corporate america will shut down plants in america and move to mexico or china if they can make another $5 in profit. i know that billionaires are funding candidates whose job it is to represent the wealthy and the powerful. i know about the corporate media
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that will give us all of the information we need except what is most important for working families. [applause] i know about all of that. but this is what i also know -- i know that what history is about is that when people stand up and they say the status quo is not acceptable, we will not have children working in factories. we will not have working people on the job who have no power over those jobs. we will not continue to have segregation or racism or bigotry. we will not have women unable to vote or go to the schools they want or do the work they want. we will pass gay marriage in 50 states in this country. [applause]
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so that is what i have learned from history, is that when we are prepared to think big, when we are prepared to take on the greed and the recklessness of wall street, when we stand together and we don't allow the trumps of the world to divide us born in ther we were america or born abroad. whether we are muslim or jewish or christian -- [applause] when we stand together, whether we're gay or straight, male or we can create a government that represents all of us and not just a handful of
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contributors. now, this campaign has won seven of the last eight caucuses and prepares -- primaries. [applause] with your help on saturday, we're going to win here in wyoming. [applause] then we are headed to new york. [applause] and i know a little bit about new york because i spent the first 18 years of my life in brooklyn, new york. [applause]
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now, please keep this a secret. do not tell secretary clinton -- she's getting a little nervous and i don't want her to get more nervous, but i believe we've got an excellent chance to win new york and a lot of delegates in that state. [applause] and then we are going to head, after some other states on the east coast, out to the west coast and we have an excellent chance to win in oregon and to win in california. [applause] and i think that a lot of these super delegates are going to be looking around them and are going to be saying which candidate has the moment up?
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which candidate is bringing out huge numbers of people and which candidate can bring out large numbers of ople -- i can't use the word "huge" anymore. but we will win in november, if there is a large voter turnout. that's what always happens. mocrats and progressives win when there is a large voter turnout. republicans win when people are demorlsed. this campaign is giving energy and enthusiasm to millions of americans. [applause]
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i think the people of this country are tired of establishment politics and establishment economics. i think the people of this country are ready for a political revolution. [applause] and if you ignore what you hear on corporate media, the facts are pretty clear. we have a path toward victory, a path toward the white house. [cheers] and wyoming can give us an enormous boost forward if we win
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here on saturday. [cheers] we often win -- almost always win when the voter turnout is high. we do poorly when the voter turnout is low. a -- see on saturday, turnout here in the wyoming caucus. and let us have wyoming democrats making it clear that this great state is part of the political revolution. thank you all very much! [cheers]
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>> in laramie, wyoming, senator benefitty sanders with a significant win over hillary clinton in the wisconsin primary. also, senator ted cruz winning as well over donald trump. we want to use this opportunity to hear from you. what dot results in wisconsin mean moving ahead to the caucuses in wyoming and also the upcoming primaries. i want to share this tweet from robert costa from the "washington post," who's done a number of interviews with donald trump and a statement from the trump campaign. donald j. trump withstood the onslaught of the establishment
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yet again. lying ted cruz had the governor of wisconsin, many conservative talk radio show hosts and the entire party apparatus behind him. not only was he propelled by the nti-trump super pac but he was coordinating with his own super perfection ac, who totally control him. we have total confidence that mr. trump will go on the win in new york, where he holds a substantial lead in the polls and beyond. mr. trump is the only candidate who can secure the delegates needed to win the republican nomination and ultimately defeat hillary clinton or whoever the democratic nominee is and make america great again. karl is joining us from new orleans. democrats line, good evening. caller: good evening. how are you going -- doing?
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host: fine, thank you. caller: ok, there were a couple of things that confused me about what they're saying about ms. clinton. the biggest problem irs is the misinformation that's been put out there about her mistrust issues because of the benghazi hearings. i'm a retired steel worker. i sat there and watched the 11 hour this is woman answered the questions and after that onslaught by the republicans they still couldn't come up with nothing to charge her with. if there was something that terrible that this woman had done -- i'm still waiting for them to somehow or other show me what it is. if that was the case, she should be in jail now and not running for president. host: ok. dan joining us next from kansas. good evening to you. dan, are you with us? we'll go on to woodrow joining us on our independent line from
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colton, california. caller: hi there, something the media hasn't reported is some of trump's comments on japan. they reported he's saying he wants the nukes but on april 2, he had a rally and literally said let north korea and japan duke it out. two states with the potential to have nuclear weapons duke it out is a disgusting idea. host: let's look at the results from wisconsin. first on the republican side. with about half the vote now reporting, significantly with 51% of the vote for truse compared to donald trump, a distant second. for those of you listening on c-span radio. 2 2,000 votes for senator cruz. 1 5,000 for donald trump and ohio governor john kasich with
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justover 2,000 votes. jerry joins us next from college park, maryland. democrats line. good evening. caller: how are you? host: fine, thank you. caller: i'm a bernie sanders supporter and we've revved up because of this wonderful victory tonight. and hillary clinton is a liability. she's facing the possibility of indictment and she supported the panama free trade agreement, which now we're finding out is just a dodge for tax evasion. come on, guys. democrats. wake up, look at the information and you'll see she's not who we want to run because she's going to lose. ot too many bad aspects to her history. host: jerry, how does bernie sanders win in maryland, the upcoming primary? caller: it's going to be unuphill road. this is a state that votes traditionally democrat.
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has a large proportion of blacks who tend to rote for hillary clinton and there has to be a lot of education to go on. but i think if people wake up and pay attention, there are some good summaries right now about this panama deal and how hillary voted and bernie voted. it should be clear to everybody we don't want her as our candidate. host: why do you think sanders has had such a difficult time among the african-american vote? host: i think the clintons have had historically, a good relationship with the black community. bill clinton was named the first black president. i've never understood that. senator sanders is new to the scene and if you don't study what's going on you may be stuck in your past thoughts about history rather than the reality of what's going on.
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host: jerry, thanks for the call. jeff is next. pittsburgh. big primary at the end of this month. jeff, on the republican line. what's going to happen? governor kasich is hoping to pull off a win there. host: yeah, i don't quite see that happening. as a matter of fact i think it's kind of a disgrace that kasich puts his own interests above the best interests of the country by staying in the race, i believe. i don't think he has any chance at all. this is trump country. i'm a trump supporter and i think we're going to go heavily for trump. i don't know how people are fooled by ted cruz. he's such a phony-type character. all his speeches are so rehearsed. he says the same lines in the same way and everything is performed, it's so theatrical. e's lining every -- like every politician i've ever seen
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before. if you want real change it has to come from a man like donald trump. ic -- i think it's d what bernie is talking about destroying the country and raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour. all the jobs will be lost and small business will go away. he's like the lord of the flies with all his children out there. it's a shame what they're teaching these young kids in these institutions today. liberalism. host: thank you for the call. go to c-span.org to see the results and a county-by-county breakdown and also our delegate tracker. they are the totals or both the democrats -- the republicans don't have super delegates. on the democratic side, hillary clinton maintaining her lead at 1,640 delegates. senator sanders at 1,05 5.
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more than 2,300 delegates needed to win the nomination on the first ballot. key contests still to come in new york, pennsylvania, rhode island and connecticut. on the republican side, donald trump with 737 delegates and now ted cruz with his win in wisconsin at 503r and ohio 30. rnor -- 30 and ohio governor john kasich. you can see all this on our website tonight. clearwater, florida, independent line. as you take in all of this tonight, what are your thoughts? caller: can you hear me ok, sir? host: we sure can. go ahead. caller: hi. thank you so much for putting me on the air. i'm originally from pennsylvania and the gentleman that called in, as a former pennsylvanian person, i hope to gold there are
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a lot of people up there that think differently than that last caller. pennsylvania is full of people who are living in depressed areas but that is no confuse to vote for somebody -- you talk about setting an example for young people. donald trump is a disgrace to the country. it is shameful and john kasich is a former pittsburgh guy and -- boy and i'm discouraged that the gentleman bashed him as he did but kasich isn't in this race for selfish reasons. he's in this race because he knows his chance to be selected and that may surprise everyone on the republican side and not even go near cruz because cruz has a lot of issues with the suspected affairs and his overall approach is not very friendly to the general public. he's kind of like a mitt romney in that you don't want to have dinner with him. kasich would be a great president. i'm a hillary clinton supporter but i'm telling you should
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hillary clinton not get this nomination, which would be disgraceful, and the other caller that called in he's also thinking pie in the sky. bernie sanders is a wonderful man, a good man. i'd love to have him for dinner. he's brilliant but the gentleman, his age is definitely an issue. we could issue another president of the united states whose age impacted him. started out as a very strong president and his wife had to make a lot of decisionings. we can't put bernie sanders in the white house. he has no foreign experience at all. you have kasich and you have hillary clinton and hillary clinton, by the way, deserves, to be president. she may have had issues in benghazi but george bush killed thousands of our boys and some women in a war that was not even warranted. host: senator sanders isle --
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the subject of a story tomorrow morning in the "new york daily news." on his foreign policy expertise and also on the issue of guns. a tweet from ed o'keefe to have "washington post." he has a post online and says cruz gets a big victory and the anti-trump forces are emboldened. our next few callers are from pennsylvania. first joe from slippery rock in the western part of the state, democrats line. good evening, joe. caller: good evening. i'd like to say that i spent 30 years in the military. i'm a retired officer. one thing that americans don't understand, no secretary of our oversees -- they are run by the c.i.a. and as soon as americans understand that -- ill -- hillary had
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nothing to do with benghazi, not a thing and i don't understand how dumb our democrats and republicans can say that and the back it town death but 11 hours that they called her to the witness table and i don't understand that. now, i'm a democrat but i'm voting for donald trump. and i think he will make a good president and plus, he would do good things for this country and we need somebody in there that kicks our enemies in the butt. now, not later. and he definitely will bring our military up. me be you for letting on this program. host: thank you very much for the call. next to tom joining us from bolivar, pennsylvania. republican line. good evening, tom. caller: good evening. how are you? host: fine, thank you.
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what part of the state is that in? caller: we're near the famous town of johnstown where the flood was and where georgia washington was during the french and indian war. mid to western pennsylvania. host: host: you are a rock publican -- republican, who do support? trump. donald aboute donald trump cares this country more than anyone caresn the sense that he about keeping the american history and patriotism alive in our culture as opposed to bernie sanders, who is talking like everybody from every culture can all get along. live in ay is we world that it is a shame, and
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heaven hopefully will be that way, but on earth they are chopping heads up. donald trump is taking that seriously. hillary clinton, bernie sanders, radical pro-abortion. love america a few cannot love american children. donald trump will bring the job spec. you will do what he needs to do so people will want to have kids again. that is the sign of a healthy nation when people want to have children. right now, people do not want to have children. they are aborting their children, they are using contraception, even healthy couples are having only one child. it is because people are nervous, afraid, confused. donald trump is important because he will bring jobs back, he will make people proud to be american, we will start having time for our kids and protecting families. trump says bad
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words or this or that it is about what he is gone to do for america. yes, we can forgive him. where are all sinners. he said some things that were inappropriate and he has apologize, ok? bottom line, he loves america. host: a few more minutes for your calls. if you're just tuning in or not following all the results from wisconsin, two wins as expected by the polling leading up to today's polling. the only contest with senator cruz when he was 50% of the vote in. he has 330,000 votes. donald trump a distant second 200 13,000 votes. ohio governor kasich at 93,000 votes. side, senator sanders with nearly 56% of the vote or about 340,000 votes compared to about 44% for hillary clinton for about
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272,000 votes. in just a moment we will show you senator cruz, who spoke earlier tonight. we should point out the donald , and johnlary clinton kasich did not have events tonight. if they did, we would've brought them to you as well. they are back on the campaign trail and we will bring them to you tomorrow. joining us from fairview, -- good evening. >> you know, i do not agree with donald trump. ted cruz.gree with i do not agree with bernie sanders. i do not agree with hillary clinton. i served in the military for 13 years and i seen what her husband did. inurn around and i was somalia under her husband's watch and i seen firsthand what
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happened. so, the thing is, i do not agree with anybody out here anymore. i do not like our field we have. host: thank you. david is next from carbondale, illinois. good evening you are a the air. >> high. -- hello, i just had an observation and wondered about all of the hillary supporters not a that bernie is viable candidate as it were, but at the same time, i mean, we also understand that or have seen that how much hasructionism and whatnot gone from the republican party on in obama administration, so
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what would we expect would happen with a clinton administration, which has -- wey been obviously know how much the republicans are against the clintons. so, i just wonder about that obstructionism and how much we will see in that in the next door years. i know you guys don't do commentary. host: no, but would like your comments and that is what makes this program work. earlier today speaking about reporters about the situation in panama. you can check it out on our website at c-span.org. our next is a republican line where the focus will be as the candidates crisscross your state. rob, what will happen on april 19? >> i think it is going to be a big night here in new york. there are too many variables to be sure of anything and i see so many conflation celebrity place from so many people. think we are really
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supposed to be looking at the string of events. when barack obama won the white house and became president of the united states in 2008, he had but the house and the senate. full control of the legislative branch for two full years. was rubberstamped for everything he wanted and off to the races, billions of dollars being thrown into the air like "wheee!." back-to-back trillion dollars spending bills. then that republican sweep then. harry reid blocked everything off in the senate. he broke laws doing that. we saw everything d.o.a. on the senate floor. automatic. nothing got through. senator reid of nevada came out and said the republicans are not working on the other side. they are not working. it was in outright lie.
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in 2012, we see obama reelected and the republicans take the senate. an every action there is equal and opposite reaction, as we all know. donald trump personifies the equal and opposite reaction. " and is he your candidate? ask he was not in the early going, he was at the list of these 17 upfront. and withility slipping him. chris-crosses across the country, he has seen there are a lot of great people not defined by the size of their wallet. he is like, wow, there are a lot of great -- he came down from his lofty spot. he thought, maybe i'm not such a pool bath anymore. host: let me just read you the statement from his campaign. these are his words. out.as tweeted it
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they have said his conciliatory statement, ted cruz is worse than a puppet. he is a trojan horse being used by the party bosses to steal the nomination. >> those are harsh words. i am not saying he is at all times behaving in a way with conciliatory remarks but i see more of them now and if he gains the white house we will see more. as far as ted cruz on republican establishment, there is some truth. if they go to a open contested convention or a brokered convention and they strip trump of his earned nomination by way of the delegate count i think there is going to be a lot of malt over that. tumultuous a lot of behavior over that. a body blow to the republican party. there are roles. if people would just come down and understand there are roles.
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it is the way the system works. i will put it this way. if he is way ahead in the delegate count and -- say by more than 5% even -- you have got to go ahead and go, ok he will take some getting used to but he is the guy. i think he could strip the bar from hillary clinton's trade. of is a personification political corruption in the 21st century. there will be fireworks and donald trump will come up on top. host: and there will be one network where you can watch it start to finish, gavel-to-gavel, you know where you can watch it from. >> yes. i love c-span, i love brian lamb. host: quick comment before we move on to hear from senator ted cruz. your reaction to what happened in your state today? >> hello. my reaction is that we did the
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thing of bernie sanders because donald trump -- not saying i do not agree with most of the things he says because i do -- and i do agree with most thing bernie sanders says. everyonee same hand, in the world's voting hillary clinton and that is wrong. we cannot vote for her because she is against everything that everyone in this country believes that. host: the last word from claire, wisconsin. democratic side, senator bernie sanders with a significant win over hillary clinton. on the republican side, also a huge win for senator ted cruz. the numbers from the associated press, 60% reported. senator cruz with just over 50% invoke. trump second, 33% about. democratic side, bernie sanders with a least a 10 point lead
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over hillary clinton. all of these and the delegate count available on our website. coming up, the remarks of ted cruz who was in milwaukee earlier tonight. the results online anytime at c-span.org. >> ladies and gentlemen please welcome the governor of wisconsin, scott walker. ♪
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governor scott walker: good evening, wisconsin. what a great crowd. i want to particularly thank our lieutenant governor for being here. and, thank you to all of you for coming out. i want to thank all of you, particularly you at home. for showing what wisconsin nights mean. means we are nice but not push overs. see, we understand what common sense conservative reforms mean. we understand what it means to have principled conservative leadership because we have done it here in the great state of wisconsin. that and ind contrast we do not need leaders who taught about how things are bad. we need leaders who will inspire our country going forward. celebrating h are
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amend his victory for ted cruz, the next president of the united states. ted cruz is someone who has the big and fought government special interest in washington, d.c., and when we elect him as our next president he will do exactly the same thing for the next president of this country. [applause] tott walker: tonight, i want thank all of you and tell you just as in the past, we are proud to show a turning point in this election. [applause] walker: this victory is bigger than just wisconsin, this is the night we can look back and say, that was the time that turned the tide of the election to bring ted cruz him to be denominated party, tonight's
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party, and to win the election hillary clinton. ladies and gentlemen, let's give a warm wisconsin welcome to the next president of the united states -- ted cruz! ♪
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[applause] . sen. cruz: god bless the great state of wisconsin. what an incredible victory tonight and thank you for your tremendous governor, governor scott walker who is a principled and passionate leader. tonight is a turning point. it is a rallying cry. it is a cry from the hard-working men and women of wisconsin to the people in america. we have a choice. a real choice. the national political terrain
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began to change two weeks ago. in the state of utah, we won 69% of the vote. a landslide election. [applause] sen. cruz: winning every single delegate in the state. then, just three days ago in colorado, to congressional districts voted. once again, they elected six delegates and of those six delegates, we won all six. [applause] and then, two days ago in north dakota we had another tremendous win. they elected their delegates. of the delegates who specified their support, 18 are supporting our campaign. one is supporting donald trump. [applause]
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sen. cruz: 18-1, i will take that ratio any day of the week. [cheers and applause] sen. cruz: and now tonight, here in wisconsin, a state that just three weeks ago the media had said wisconsin was a perfect state for donald trump. [booing] sen. cruz: but the men and women of wisconsin worked tirelessly to make sure tonight was a victory for every person in america. [applause] [chanting "cruz!]
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senator cruz: four very different states. utah, colorado, north dakota, wisconsin. four victories. [applause] sen. cruz: so just how significant is tonight? well, just today, our campaign has raised over $2 million. [cheers and applause] sen. cruz: people all over the country going to ted cruz.org. ted cruz.org. ted cruz.org. contributing $10 or $25 or $50. we have had over 1.3 million contributions. [applause]
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sen. cruz: in the last two weeks, and in the coming days when colorado and wyoming finished voting, we're likely to gain over 100 delegates on donald trump. [applause] sen. cruz: and, as a result of tonight, as a result of the people of wisconsin defying the media, defying the pundits, i am more and more convinced that our campaign is going to learn the -- to earn 137 delegates needed to win the nomination up. [cheers and applause] sen. cruz: either before cleveland or at the convention in cleveland, together we will wind the majority of the
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delegates and together we will beat hillary clinton in november. [applause] sen. cruz: tonight was a bad night for hillary clinton. it was a bad night in the democratic primary and it was in even worse night for her and the republican primary. [cheers and applause] sen. cruz: we are winning because we are uniting the republican party. of these 17 candidates who started this race, a terrific, talented, dynamic field. five have now and doors to this campaign. -- endorsed this campaign.
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rick perry and lindsey graham and jeb bush and carly fiorina. and wisconsin's own governor scott walker. [cheers and applause] sen. cruz: when you toss and senator mike lee and mark levin, we have got the full spectrum of the republican party coming together and uniting behind this campaign. [applause] sen. cruz: in 1960, accepting the democratic party nomination,
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john f. kennedy observed, "i think the american people deserve more from us then cries of indignation and attacks. the times are too great, the challenge to urgent, and the stakes too high to permit the customary passion of political debate. we are not here to curse the darkness but to light the candle that can guide us to see through that darkness to a safe and sane future." as winston churchill said on taking office, "if we open a portal between the present and the past, we shall be in danger of losing the future." the same is true today. tonight, wisconsin has lit to a candle guiding the way forward. tonight, we once again have hope for the future. [applause]
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sen. cruz: tonight is about unity and tonight is about hope. young people in america once again have hope that we will bring jobs back to america. [applause] sen. cruz: by repealing obamacare. passing a -- [applause] senator cruz: sen. cruz: reigning in the federal regulators that are killing small businesses, and passing a
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flat tax we will unleash , incredible financial security. will finally be made secure and sanctuary cities will end. [applause] sen. cruz: truck drivers and mechanics and plumbers and union members, steelworkers, men and women with calluses on their hands will once again see wages rising. opportunity. working moms. working moms struggling to make ends meet will see take-home pay rising. the cost of living falling. and common core ending. [applause]
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catholic schools and jewish day schools, brigham young and the little sisters of the poor will see a supreme court that protects their religious liberties. [cheers and applause] [crowd chanting "cruz!"] sen. cruz: the fundamental freedom of every one of us to live according to our faith and our conscience will see a second amendment right to keep and bear arms. [cheers and applause] sen. cruz: and our fundamental right to protect our families and our homes and our children.
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[applause] sen. cruz: we will see a president who stands with his -- who stands with israel. clearly and unapologetically. [applause] sen. cruz: instead of negotiating with terrorists, we will rip two strands this catastrophic iranian nuclear deal. [applause] we will defeat radical islamic terrorism and we will actually destroy it isis. [cheers and applause] cruz: we will have a
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president who keeps us all safe. [applause] sen. cruz: to the soldiers, the marines, the first responders who risk their lives every day to keep us safe, we will have a commander-in-chief who has your back. [applause] senator cruz: jobs, freedom, and security. that is what this next election is all about. in 1980, milton and rose friedman wrote open quote -- choose." edom to
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too much government can stifle opportunity. what if we get washington out of the way, then there is no limit to what we cannot accomplish will stop [applause] -- then there is no limit to what we can accomplish. [applause] cruz: it is what allowed my dad to escape cuba and come to america with nothing. washing dishes, taking $.50 per to to wash dishes and today be a pastor traveling the country. [applause] is what allowed my irish italian mother to become the first and her family to go to college. to smash glass ceilings by becoming a pioneering computer programmer.
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[applause] sen. cruz: it is what allowed my wife heidi -- [cheers and applause] "heidi!"anting ] sen. cruz: i may be biased, but isn't she going to make an amazing first lady? [cheers and applause]
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>> we love you, wisconsin! "heidi" anding -- and bracket sen. cruz: she is a loving mom and every day she is teaching our daughters that strong women cannot accomplish anything in the united states. [applause] that is america. it is what we are fighting for. our children. our future. clear weonsin has made are free to choose. [applause]
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for centuries, for centuries america has been a shining city on a hill. a begin of liberty to the world be we can and will wonderful. so i ask you at home to join us as we continue to unite republicans in the independents and libertarians and reagan democrats and americans who care about our future who won jobs, freedom, and security. just as we have done in wisconsin, we are doing all across this country. [applause]
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sen. cruz: and governor, let me tell you, i look forward to coming back to the state of wisconsin this fall. [applause] sen. cruz: ended november, for the first time since 1984, painting the badger state bright republican red. applause] cruz: -- "cruz" andting "cruz!"]--
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say,cruz: so let me just hillary get ready. here we come. god bless you! cheering and applause] ♪ ♪ the sun is coming up over new york city school bus driver in a traffic jam hering at the faces in rearview mirror promise of the promised land dreams of fame and
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fortune thinks about paying the rent one could end up going to prison president ght be only in america dreaming in red, white, and blue only in america where we dream as big as we want to we'll get a chance everybody gets to dance nly in america sun going down on an l.a. freeway
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newlyweds in the back of a ♪ ousine campaign 2016,ng c-span takes you on the road to the white house as we follow the candidates on c-span, c-span radio, and c-span.org. bernieer: senator sanders one knee democratic wisconsin primary defeating hillary clinton. sen. sanders: to supporters in laramie, wyoming. [cheers and applause] ♪
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sen. sanders: thank you, laramie! ♪ [cheers and applause] sen. sanders: you know, i was told there were about i thousand people who participated in the last wyoming caucus. it looks like all of them are here tonight. thank you! thank you very much for coming out and let me remind everybody that we have got a really important caucus here on saturday. doors open at 9:00 a.m.. let's be there. let's win. [cheers and applause]
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sen. sanders: now, i do not know if the audience here knows it -- i do not see any televisions here, but it has been projected by think all of the networks that we won in wisconsin! [cheers and applause] [crowd chanting "bernie! [crowd changing- "bernie!"] sen. sanders: now let me say word about what momentum is all about. it meant starting this campaign 11 month ago and the media
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determining we were a fringe candidate see. campaignis starting a 60-70 points behind secretary .linton momentum is that within the last couple of weeks there have been national polls which have had us one point up or one point down. [applause] sanders: momentum is that when you look at national polls or you look at state polls, we are defeating donald trump by very significant numbers. [applause]
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sen. sanders: and, in almost every instance in national polls and staples, our margin over trump is wider the and is secretary clinton's. with a victory of the wisconsin tonight, and let me take this opportunity to thank the people of wisconsin for their strong support. [applause] sen. sanders: with our victory tonight in wisconsin we have now one seven out of eight of the last caucuses. [applause] sen. sanders: and we have won almost all of them with overwhelming landslide numbers. [applause]
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sen. sanders: what momentum is about, is that at a time in contemporary politics when every major candidate has a super pac, we have said no to super pac's, said no to the billionaire for fundings. [applause] and what we have done is in an unprecedented manner in history we have up until this point in the campaign received over 6 million individual campaign contributions. [applause]
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sen. sanders: anyone here know what the average contribution is ? that is exactly right. smart crowd. $27. to paraphrase abraham lincoln at gettysburg, "this is a campaign of the people, by the people, and for the people." [applause] sen. sanders: we have decided that we do not represent the billionaire class. streetot represent wall or the drug companies or the fossil fuel industry. [applause]
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sen. sanders: and we do not want their money. about is mym is we wake up the american people and if working people and middle-class people and citizens and young people begin to stand up, fight back, and come out to vote in large nothing that we .annot accomplish and what's we have been seeing a throughout his campaign is extraordinary voter turnouts in state after state after state. [applause]
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sanders: in diameter particularly grateful -- and please, at a time when many of the pundits said, you know, though jean people, they do not want to get involved in politics . they are not really concerned about the major issues facing our country. they are too busy with their video games or whatever. well, you know what is happening? all over this country, young people are standing up and saying, you know what? we want to help determine the future of this country which we love. [applause] sen. sanders: what momentum is country all across this , the american people are looking around them. and they understand that real
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change in our country's history, whether it is the trade union movement, whether it is the civil rights movement, whether it is the women's movement, the , theyghts movement understand that real change never, ever, takes place from the top on down. it always takes place from the bottom on up! [applause] sen. sanders: in today -- today, coast-to-coast, i have been in california, maine, and a whole lot states in between. why isople are saying is it that in america we have grotesque levels of income and wealth inequality?
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top 1/10 ofthat the 1% now owns almost as much 90%?h as the bottom why is it that for the last 30 years the great middle class of this country has been shrinking and almost all due income and wealth is going to the top 1%? the american people are asking, why is it that women go to work tomorrow and they are earning $.79 on the dollar compared to men? [applause] sen. sanders: people are asking, how does it happen that the united states of america -- our great nation -- is the only major country on earth not to guarantee paid family and medical leave? [applause]
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sen. sanders: there are women giving birth in wyoming and wisconsin and vermont today but they are going to have to go back to work in two or three week because they do not have the income to take your of their families. which is why, together, we are going to pass three months paid family and medical leave. [applause] [applause] sen. sanders: and the american -coast areom coast-two saying, yes, the affordable care act has done a lot of great things. thank you president obama for your leadership. carein terms of health there is much, much more that
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has to be done. [applause] sen. sanders: the american people are asking, why does it happen that every other major country on earth -- united kingdom, france, germany, holland, scandinavia, canada -- every other major country on earth guarantees health care to all of their people as a right except the united states. together we are going to change that international conundrum. [cheers and applause] sen. sanders: and the american young are asking -- and people are asking -- why is it that when we are living in an increasingly competitive global it that kids are
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graduating college 30,000, 50,000, $70,000 in debt? [applause] sen. sanders: and in some cases, in some cases spending decades ?aving to pay off that debt we should be rewarding people who get the education they need. not punishing them. [applause] sen. sanders: and the american people are asking, how does it scientists all over our country who studied climate change and scientists all over the world are in virtual unanimous agreement, that climate change israel.
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that it is caused by human activity. causingis already devastating problems in our country and around the world. how do we have a republican party that refuses to even a knowledge the reality of climate change? [applause] sen. sanders: and the american people are asking, how does it happen that we can spend trillions of dollars fighting a war in iraq that we never should have gotten in in the first place? [cheers and applause]
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but in flint, michigan, and in cities all over this country -- our inner cities are crumbling. unemployment is off the charts. , noth care system acceptable. kids dropping out of high school. two, too many being arrested and sent to jail. how come we can rebuild the infrastructure of iraq and afghanistan but we cannot rebuild our own crumbling infrastructure? applause] sen. sanders: and the american people are asking, as they assemble all over this country, why can we not end a campaign
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finance system which is corrupt and which is undermining american democracy? applause] an. sanders: democracy is not complicated process. it means that you have a vote in you have about he had you have a vote. into the majority wins. what democracy is not about is billionaires buying elections! [cheers and applause] sen. sanders: the american people are asking another very important and profound question. is, how doesstion it happen in the wealthiest nations in the history of the world that we have more people in jail they and any other
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country on earth? [applause] sanders: and what the american people are saying is that now is the time to invest in our younger people in terms of jobs and education. not jails and incarceration. [applause] sen. sanders: in some of you have recently heard about the and revelations about the tax-dodging that is taking place in panama which is one of the reasons that i oppose the free trade agreement with panama. [applause] and one of the
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reasons i was on the floor of the senate talking exactly about what i feared happened, and that is wealthy people and large corporations figuring out ways to avoid paying their fair share of taxes. [applause] and what the american people are asking is, at the time of massive income and wealth inequality, how does largepen that you have profitable multi-national corporations who in a given year pay zero, not a penny, and federal income taxes? [booing] realsanders: now change, change, comes about whether it , workering racism
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exploitation, sexism, homophobia -- real change comes about when people stand up and they look around them and they say, you know what? the status quo is not working. we can do better. [applause] sen. sanders: and let me give you manycan't give examples -- but let me give you the most contemporary example of people standwhen up and fight back. if we were here in this beautiful auditorium five years ago, not a long time from a historical perspective and somebody were to jump up and say, you know, i think a $7.25 federal minimum wage is a starvation wage and it has got to be raised to $15 an hour.
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if somebody stood up five years ago and said that the person next to them would've said, you are nuts. $13 an hour? to more than double the minimum wage. you are crazy. tobe, maybe we could get up eight dollars or nine dollars an hour but $15 an hour? you are dreaming too big. sound familiar? you are unrealistic. it cannot he done. think small. fasthen what happened is food workers, people working at mcdonald's, people working at burger king, people working at wendy's, they went out on strike. proud to join with those workers in washington. [cheers and applause] went outers: and they
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and they said, fellow americans, $7.20 an hour.on we cannot live on a dollars and are. you've got to raise the minimum wage to 15 dollars an hour. and they fought and they fought. and suddenly, a few years ago, seattle, washington -- $15 an hour. [applause] sen. sanders: los angeles, san francisco -- $15 an hour! [applause] oregon, $15 an hour. several weeks in both california and new york, governor signed legislation for $15 an hour. [applause] sen. sanders: what is my point? canoint is that yes, we
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change the status quo when we think big and when we have a vision. [cheers and applause] sanders: im not naive. the power of wall street and their endless supplies of money. americahat corporate has shut down. can make another five dollars in profit. billionaires are funding candidates whose job it is to represent the wealthy and the powerful. i know about the corporate media that will give us all of the information we need except what is most important for working families. applause] sen. sanders: i know about all of that at this is what i also
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know. i know that's what history about is that when people stand up and they say, the status quo is not acceptable, we will not have children working in factories. people not have working in a job that has no power over those jobs. we will not continue to have segregation or racism or bigotry. we will not have women unable to vote or go to the schools they want or do the work they want. we will pass gay marriage and 50 states. [applause] sen. sanders: so that is what i have learned from history, is that when we are prepared to think big, when we are prepared
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to take on the greed and recklessness of wall street, when we stand together and we do not allow the trumps of the byld to divide us up, whether we're were born in america or born abroad, whether we are muslim or jewish or christian -- [applause] sen. sanders: it when we stand together whether we gay or yes,ght male or female -- thatn create a government represents all of us and not just a handful of wealthy campaign contributors. [applause] sen. sanders: now, this campaign
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--won with your help on saturday, we will win here in wyoming. [applause] mr. sanders: and then we are headed to new york. [cheering] and i know a little bit about new york because i spent the first 18 years of my life in brooklyn, new york. [applause] secret.se keep this a do not tell secretary clinton. she is getting a little nervous and i don't want her to get more nervous, but i believe we have got the next ellen chance t

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