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because these are influential people who are bringing with often quite fresh contacts with powerful people in congress and in government, and ed whilee they develop in public service. they may leave the jobs for organizations board jobs is political operatives working for these super pac's and nonprofits intevac into government and bring with them the views and themests and bring with the views and of their employers. creatednot specifically by money, but money does play a role. in order to lower a senior , those to do lobbying firms pay a premium because they can charge more to their clients to have that sort of shortcut on offer. door is anng important aspect of all this. i wanted to clarify the 501(c)'s
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are not themselves a trick, are nonprofits, and most of them, tens of thousands of these organizations do wonderful charitable work that is important to really the structure of our society. but what has happened is there has been a kind of variation, a strain of these groups that is not honoring the purpose of these organizations, and it's k enforcement and rules in order to act like political entities, which should be disclosing donors. host: the revolving door database, you can see things like the feature revolver, the top agencies where people revolve through the database, ike the fact that there are 20 state or attorney general and
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the open secrets revolving door database. 's guide an washington, d.c., democrat. guest: thank you for this invaluable service. i was wondering if your guests at the opportunity to listen to the segment just before, especially christian birds united, anditizens her reaction would be to that. to her comments about the organizations that have been formed as a result of citizens united, is it that citizens united is not working as it was intended, or is that ok chris really -- opaqueness really part of the picture? guest: unfortunately, i didn't hear the prior segments and i didn't hear that these the caller was mentioning. about citizens united and whether or not it's functioning
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as the decision was intended, it is not. in my view in the view of many others, the supreme court faced that decision on the present and that we had a functional for all ofregime these activities. when they opened the floodgates to any source contributing and spending any sum of money to advocate or oppose a federal candidate, they did not understand there was this massive loophole allowing these organizations to fly into the radar, to keep their donors secret, and in fact, to keep their spending secret. the rules make it very difficult to both know who this is providing the original funding as well as what these organizations are doing. it's really a crazy quilt of
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rules and oversight agencies that come into play, and that is a major portion of our work now, in trying to make sense of all of the entities that are now participating in the system following citizens united. all of the public sources of information and crafting a website resource that allows people to really see what is happening. host: tennessee is next, tom is a republican. good morning. caller: i was just wondering. parenthoodlanned takes money from the government, and they donate to all the s that are running in congress, senate, and everything else. have you ever checked into that? they are absolutely taking money from the taxpayers, supposedly. sudden, they of a
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are donating money to candidates that are actually on the democrat side. have you ever looked into that? i watched a lot of hearings on c-span about planned parenthood, and they're arguing over the taxpayers shouldn't be paying that money, and they are making money. and they are spending money on helping get democrats elected. i sure would like to hear your comments. thank you very much. pulling up planned parenthood from the database, go ahead. guest: thank you for that. parenthood's a very politically active organization and has been one for a long time. you can find a lot of information about them on her website, there's a pac donation to members of congress and candidates for congress, as well as independent expenditures on behalf of or against candidates. i'm quite sure they lobby as well. you will find it different entry
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points in to learn about their activities in washington. i do want to point out that a group like that is really distinct from this new variation of nonprofits, which has cropped up following citizens united. which is not known -- many of these organizations use anodyne or patriotic sounding names. their mission is not to necessarily advocate a single issue like planned parenthood does, or like the nra does. those are legitimate social welfare organizations, they take a position and they are politically active, but not primarily so. however, other organizations really exist for no other reason than to advocate on politics.
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limits,exceeding the which are themselves, quite lax in terms of how much money they can spend on politics. interestingat is an organization, because they are so politically active and they spend a lot of money. in 2014, the congressional cycle in 2014, here are the numbers. contributions, nearly $1.6 million in contributions, $679,000 of that going into individual candidates. contributions also the 527 committees and outside spending groups, the open secrets website breaks it all down for you. that one forycle, $6 million in contributions ranked 169th out of the groups that were tracked. let's go to robin in greenville, tennessee. an independent. caller: good morning, thank you for taking my call.
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host: go ahead. number my question is, one, i think citizens united was just a blender. -- a blunder. i think the people here in america have kind of woken up to all thesehat delegates and these different things -- what if we just have one vote, one person, and accounts -- it counts? i would like to know that my vote counts. host: how would you do that? caller: i would not have the electoral college, we just have all the states go to the primaries and vote. and elected president with your vote. i would like to get some of the money out of this and i would also like to have term limits. host: robin, with her changes for the electoral system. corey is up next in chickamauga, georgia.
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a democrat, good morning. i do have a few questions, if you don't mind. do have a few questions, if you don't mind. one person,bout the one vote and everyone should have the opportunity to vote. my second question is the fundraising and campaign raising , due to the commercials in such . these companies the raise hundreds of millions of dollars for these foolish advertisements against one candidate or the other. when we're living in an economy like we are with so many people struggling, it seems like they want to argue about an increase in minimum wage her. and yet, they are throwing so much money down the drain as far as foolishness, these
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advertisements give the negativity of the candidates. another thing is, like with campaign, that he focuses so much on his own money being spent. isthat money that he spending on his candidacy, is it not also tax-deductible? so he basically is making a payday for his running for president in the long run. that it is hard for people to step fact today. citizens today to hear all this stuff about these delegates, please bound delegates and all this other foolishness. they go out and they stand in these lines for hours thinking they are doing something positive for the country, to make some changes. discouraged,
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hearing the the 20 come out tomorrow is by line that ise next going to come out tomorrow is owned by the way, there's another ruled plays a part in it and change the outcome. there is so much going on to where you really has upset a lot of people in today's society. people were already angry about things as far as the way governments run. but now, on top of that, we have all this other craziness with the campaign itself and people fueling the fire. i'm not going down on the media about it, as much as i am the candidates. host: i want to let sheila krumholz weigh in. i want to show you the front page of the "washington times." donald trump blasting the colorado gop for running a
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rigged system is the headline. their concern about the rules in colorado after he was swept at last week's convention, when it comes to delegates for the republican national convention. that perhaps speaking to some of the rule concerns you were talking about. sheila krumholz, a lot covered there. guest: there's a lot to unpack. ishink one salient feeling there is just great concern for democratic integrity. the people don't trust that the system is functioning as it should. they don't feel and do not have access to information which should be public. how can they make good decisions for themselves at the ballot box and in their own political engagement? how can they hold the representatives, their politicians, accountable if they don't know who is supplying the
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money for their campaign? is a bedrock principle. we must regain the transparency that the system used to provide. it will be up to people, voters, constituents to hold the representatives accountable and let them know they do care about access to this information and transparency. and to make them hold the oversight agencies accountable. host: the caller was particularly concerned about the ad spending and commercials. in the 2014 cycle, media spending by candidates -- these were just house and senate candidates -- media spending accounted for almost $1.3 billion. what do expect that number to get up to in the 2016 cycle? guest: it's hard to make a production about media spending. -- a prediction about media spending. but that's a normal -- an
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enormous cost in presidential campaigns. during the early part of the cycle, the investments are on administration on setting up campaigns. once candidates are in place and have their organizations in place, the images or focus turns to communicating their messages in their platforms. that is enormously expensive and a huge payday for broadcast companies in particular. they can reap large sums of money, especially from outside, purportedly independent outsider information -- organizations like super pacs, that are running ads, some of the misleading, about the candidates. allowedizations are not the lowest unit rate the candidates are allowed. there's a lot of play here. in advertising, certainly, as with the last presidential election, voters at home will be
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bombarded with messaging, again, much of it negative. that will be fueled by billions of dollars, spent not just by candidates and parties provide is less accountable outside groups. host: on twitter, inconceivable one makes the same point that the first caller was making. it may be that a candidate must have money support to be elected, but that doesn't mean money is controlling the election. ohio,s up next in marion, a republican. rich, good morning. caller: good morning. some great ideas. if we some points, shorten the election, we know one day is too short. the way it is now is too long and we get all kinds of weird things happening. if we would shorten it, we limit the amount of money involved. the other thing is our four and agents -- foreign agents are corrupting the system.
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spending to mind corrupt our politicians. we have to look at that. armiesious about foreign , how much they are lobbying our government. in a company and act like a company, they are allowed to lobby our government. how much is lobby from china, russia, and cuba? and what happened with china in launching a multiple warhead attack on the united states. as satellites it that clinton help to get through, and now they sit with it, they can launch satellites or warheads. might be alast one little out of our ballpark in this segment. on foreign contributions, what are the rules on that? guest: foreign governments,
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corporations, individuals are not allowed to make political contributions to contribute in our system. unless they are green card holders, residents of the united states. again, if we have a system whereby the money is secret and we cannot know where the money is coming from, we also can't the assured that it is domestic. we've had a foreign money scandal in the past, i don't know why people would think we are any less likely to have it now that money can be given anonymously. host: westfield, massachusetts is next, and independent, john is calling in. caller: good morning. i would like to make suggestion. -- a suggestion. many of these topics that are being discussed, we are wasting our time. the only way we're going to stop this abomination is by education. -- history,ctorate
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forget about it. it's all math, science, go to the moon and so on. i think there's a candidate that i might have heard about that wants to do some thing about that. when you could get 75%, 80% of the electorate vote, people voting, we are going to have a lot of the different government. in a lot of these issues will be solved right there. host: who are you supporting in this election? caller: we can't afford it, but we can afford to fight numerous wars all over the world and so on. i'm sorry, what did you say? host: who are you supporting, who is the candidate? caller: i think it might be a guy named sanders. john and westfield, massachusetts. billy is next in russellville, arkansas, republican.
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caller: good morning, little brother, good morning, little sister. i'm in arkansas, and i do say listeninga few people to could even point where the state of arkansas is. there was a citizen's united group that was against one of our campaign -- campaigned against one of our supreme court justices. wantid the koch brothers to be secret about what they are doing? why are they involved in arkansas politics? number two, i have always voted republican and i believe in less government. then all of a sudden, there are people doing secret things. why the secret about it if you feel that strong about it? if you're going to campaign and give $500 million to get your agenda through, why would you not want someone to know what you are doing? i don't understand that, i don't
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understand why we allow that. is, on theing republican side, they are thatng about 1237 people are going to shape this election. you take $500 million and by 1237, they want me to believe that money is not going directly to somebody? how naïve do they think we are on the steel? -- on this deal? i've always supported republicans, but the only person by hear talking about the things i want to hear is bernie sanders. that's a long switch from republicans down to bernie. but that's the only one i hear talking about these things. bernie, isupport believe that's the reason a lot of people are supporting bernie, other than the disinformation campaign. these citizens united people, not only are they directly try
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to influence supreme court justice in arkansas, but they are spewing out so much disinformation that you don't even know if it's the truth or if it's not the truth, or if it's close to the truth just a bald faced lie. host: i will let sheila krumholz jump in. glad you called, i really think that republicans in servedlar would be well that their members of congress understand their views on transparency. to me, this is not a partisan issue, it's a democratic issue. this form ofe government and have trust in our process without knowing -- having access to information. if we want informed voters, if we want to engage voters, they need to be able to see where the
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money is coming from and going to, and other kinds of information that are important to their political engagement. we want everyone engaged, left, right, and center. ultimately, it takes the voters -- who holds the cards in their an issue, to make this in their campaigns and communicate that to their officeholders. host: intimacy, leeann is a democrat. good morning. -- you tennessee. caller: i was calling about this fundraiser. the only reason they are giving money to the senators who run and congressman are to get their idea over. they are buying their votes. i'm 65 years old, i'm in tennessee, when it's time for us to go out to vote, there are so many machines in areas work. the next hour, the machines are out of order.
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it's been done for years and years. the only way can stop is that the citizens get out there and you pull that lever when you vote. big money can't control that. it's up to us to stop it. everybody, whether you're republican, democrat, or independent, please, get out and vote. vote, it's for your own interest. thank you. host: in lancaster, california, glenn, good morning. caller: good morning. i would like to talk about the outside group, which is the media, which is -- which does not vet our people. we have a sitting senator with a dual citizenship from canada. wondering if he ever voted in canada with his citizenship? if his mother renounced her citizenship to the united states so she could vote in canada?
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and what about -- my birth certificate has my footprints on .t and my handprints on it or we have seen no footprints or handprints from the media with barack obama. i'm not a birther, i'm a native american citizen. american citizen also. i hold dual citizenship. ruined,try is being trump wants to bring jobs backed and fix social security with bringing jobs backed to america. the republican party is attacking trump because he is not controlled by the big banks like ted cruz and his wife. it's just a great big mess. host: birth certificates are not
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really what we're talking about in the segments, but your point attacked,p being there's a front-page story in the "new york times," about the amount of money that's going into anti-trump adds. us about thetell spending of the never trump movements, as it has been called? guest: you can find on our website all of the organizations that are both lining up to support him, as well as those that are attacking his candidacy. spending inh of the prior to primaries need not be reported to the federal election commission, if it is for electioneering. it is a complicated system. a lot of these calls be to a lack of trust and a crisis of confidence, both in the party leadership, the current
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establishment, but also in the system and the structure of the system. we need people to comeback to the voting booth, because we have had such a dearth of voters in past elections. as well as to not leave it there but to get engaged on a more frequent basis and to make themselves heard. use our website, use other credible nonpartisan resources like open secrets to get informed. but don't stop there, get engaged. host: let's see if we can fit in bill on chicago, illinois. the line for democrats. caller: i find it very disturbing that candidates can refuse to answer questions like -- i have considered myself a democrat. hillary.looking at she's telling people that it's not your business how much money
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on getting. -- i'm getting. i don't understand that, i'm for bernie. it's ridiculous that you can be running for president and tell people it's none of their business who you are getting money from. --see that happen in america it's been going on too long. thank you for letting me have my say. host: sheila krumholz at our last 30 seconds or so. on open secrets, you can find so much information about where the money is coming from fire industry and interest groups. for much is coming from individuals versus tax. -- other other money money's that candidates of avail themselves over the years. the caller may be referencing the clinton foundation.
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their resources is closing information on that. -- there are resources disclosing information on that. i would caution callers about making -- conflating all of these kinds of moneys, not all of them are directly beneficial to the candidates. is important for the candidates to be forthright about. it does not serve their goals to not be fully transparent about where their money comes from. host: the website is open sheila krumholz is the
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democrat --y pennsylvania democrat brendan boyle will join us. we will also get his thoughts on the 2016 presidential candidates in the upcoming democratic national convention taking place. mark warren, the executive editor for esquire magazine, will talk about blurring lines between politics and entertainment. be sure to watch "washington journal," beginning why that 7:00 eastern. >> waste and inefficiency is the subject of a house oversight and government reform committee hearing tomorrow. andcomptroller general representatives from the pentagon, irs, and medicare and medicaid services. live coverage at 10:00 a.m. eastern on c-span3. ohio governor and republican
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presidential candidate john kasich delivered a campaign speech at the women's national republicans club in new york city. this is half an hour. governor kasich: it is great to be here. this is really a wonderful lubhouse the organization is steeped in history as well as the history of our party and country. the club was founded i leaders of the suffrage movement with the new voting rights in mind. it was intended to be a place where women could meet and share knowledge about political issues so as to be better nformed. as new voters, women could participate in the choice between candidates and their ideas.
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it is in that era that i speak to all of you today. i'm going to talk about the choice america faces in this lection. it is frankly a choice between two very different past. the entire world is watching ecause america civilizations brightest begin. -- beacon. freedom loving people depend on our leadership for peace and stability. civilizations enemies only seek for us to fail. presidents come and presidents o. while the president is really matter it is the democratic
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principles that have made us that leader for more than two centuries that have been sturdy enough to transcend political and ideological differences a civil war, two world wars and eight century of technological nd societal upheavily -- upheaval. we have remained history's greatest force for good. we stay true to who we are. one nation under god with liberty and justice for all. this may be one of the most consequential. he will face so many complex pressures both from within and from without. it will force tough decisions for not only our leaders from every one of us. we will not always like our options. the issues we confront from
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fighting isis and handling russia, china, north korea in the middle east to addressing displaced workers, civil rights, the new plague of drug addiction at home as well as slow economic growth and rising debt. they are all critical. his cannot be understated. you can overload us if we let it. even in the face of this multitude of complex problems clarity can emerge. from the fog of anxiety the choices can't be reproduced and then reduced to 10 and then again. they eventually are whittled own to just two. here they are. when we turn our backs on the ideals of america that has seen
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as the two centuries or are we going to reform that america is the last best hope for man on earth. this is our choice. or some of the challenges we face that each to present could give rise to fear or anger it could be paralyzing. -- polarizing. the response for some is to retreat into the past-to yearn for "the way things used to be." to these people, today's america is only seen as a broken place, and the people who did the breaking are "the other:" people with more money-or less money, people with different-sounding last names, or different religious beliefs, or different colored skin or lifestyles or - whatever you get the idea.
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we have been told that, because of all this change, america has become dark, that we have succumbed and that we are no longer strong. we are told that we are no longer respected in the world. in fact, we are even told that foreign governments are actually controlling our destiny because they have become smarter than us and tougher than us. this picture of america in economic and moral decline is, of course, always followed up with warnings of our impending destruction. for many americans these fears and this outlook are as real as the building we are in today. and the anger they cause is eal. it is true, we are fighters in america, but we fight for what is good and what is right - and hen we do that we win.
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don't let anyone ever tell you otherwise. when we come together, when we unite as a country, america always wins. for those who are angry or afraid, i want to assure you there is another, better way. some who feed off of the fears and anger that is felt by some of us and exploit it feed their own insatiable desire for fame or attention. that could drive america down into a ditch, not make us great again. just as disturbing are the solutions they offer. we have heard proposals to create a rel tesigiousfor immigration, to target neighborhoods for surveillance, impose draconian tariffs which would crush trade and destroy american jobs.
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we have heard proposals to drop out of nato, abandon europe to russia, possibly use nuclear weapons in europe, end our defense partnerships in asia, and tell our middle east allies that they have to go it alone. e have been offered hollow promises to impose a value-added tax, balance budgets through simple and whimsical cuts in "fraud, waste nd abuse." there is no office that has the title of fraud, waste and abuse. we have been promised that unpopular laws shall be repealed simply through the will of a strong man in the white house and that supreme court justices will be empowered with some new extra-constitutional ability to investigate former public officials. i have stood on a stage and atched with amazement as
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candidates wallowed in the mud, viciously attacked one another, called each other liars and disparaged each other's character. those who continuously push that type of behavior are not worthy of the office they are seeking. [applause] and as for me, i will not take the low road to the highest office in the land. just as an all-consuming fear of america in decline ends in visions of america's destruction, a political strategy based on exploiting
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americans instead of lifting hem up inevitably leads to divisions, paranoia, isolation, and promises that can never, ever be fulfilled. i say to you that this path to darkness is the antithesis of all that america has meant for 240 years. some have a different response to the pressures they see bearing down on america-and themselves. it would never occur to me that america would break-or could break-from challenges to our economy or security. we harden with resolve through ingenuity and coming ogether. we can't sit by idly and expect fate or destiny to sweep in and rescue us. we always roll up our sleeves and get to work when the going ets tough. we have never seen the american spirit fail.
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america's strength is that we are bound by shared ideas, by communities and families and people who are free, creative nd giving. this is what makes america great, not some politician or some law. the spirit of our country rests in us. and, notwithstanding all our challenges, america still is great. take any measure, whether it's life expectancy, medicine, nutrition, technology, innovation, transportation or even economic power. america's economy is still the largest and most productive in the world. we're bigger than the next two economies - china and japan - combined. america still leads the world in making things. america is among the largest
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exporters of goods and services n the world. america is home to six out of the top ten universities in the world. america is the world's inventor and leads in intellectual roperty. don't let anybody, particularly a politician, tell you that america is not great. that doesn't mean we aren't capable of drifting. we can-and we have been. and, too many americans are still being left behind-or are making it but feel betrayed by a system that became "too big to fail." too many feel that government and politicians have betrayed them. there are a lot of americans who ask why no one is speaking for me?
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why is it, no one is working for us? why is it, you hear all these promises from politicians and nothing comes of it? and, you are right. for too long, politicians have been making promises based upon polling or what was politically expedient. that is not leadership. leadership is the willingness to walk a lonely road with a team of people with their eyes ixed on the horizon focused on solving problems and healing our country. eading is serving. there is a better, higher path. true leadership means pursuing t, even if it is hard. the sacrifice is part of the job, however, because leaders can't lead unless they are ervants first.
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to run for president you have to respect the dignity of a job where close to 320 million people are depending on you. our campaigns should be full of ideas that provide energy and solutions, innovations and excitement for whatever office we are running for. because we all have to look our families in the eyes and know hat we raised the bar. i want to be able to look my wife and daughters in the eyes and know that they're proud of me and the campaign we are running. american leadership is at its finest when it buckles on that rrepressible "can do" spirit that says anything is possible and that everyone can participate in america's blessings. you see, we can restore our economy, rebuild our military, make america safe from
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terrorism and re-engage as the leader in the world again. we can do this with reasonable and proven solutions rooted in the american ideals that have seen us through tough days efore. the proven solutions are right in front of us. we know what needs to be done. there is no better and quicker cure to america's challenges than to grow the economy and stimulate private sector job creation. to have the resources to solve roblems we need economic strength. in the 90s when we balanced the federal budget, paid down the federal debt, cut taxes and created surpluses, the result was a sustained period of economic growth, lower interest rates, job creation and national prosperity. businesses were growing, unemployment was at historic
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lows and nearly anyone who wanted a job, could have one. in fact, the labor market became a buyer's market for the ob seeker. this was no small feat. think for a moment about what we did: for the first time since americans walked on the moon the federal government had a balanced budget. we didn't only balance the udget. we were also able to reform welfare, end generational dependency; reform the pentagon to strengthen our defenses, cut the capital gains tax and much more. you know, i tell younger audiences about this and they look at me like i'm crazy. they don't believe it ever happened. but, we know it did and it can happen again. it just takes leadership, the will to challenge the status quo and a willingness to work
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cross the aisle. yes, we have to be willing to work with the other party. i believe that americans are ot only fed up with washington for what they have not done but also tired of the partisan bickering. that doesn't mean you compromise your principles. i don't think anyone would accuse ronald reagan of compromising his principles, but he did work with the democrat speaker, tip o'neil. that's because ronald reagan was a leader. i want to remind you that ime. in 1994, the republicans aptured the house in the senate and had a majority for the first time in 40 years. the people who showed up in that congress could care less about pulling, focus groups, reelection or anything lse.
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they came committed to building a stronger america. balancing a budget, paying down debt, reforming welfare and building military strength, all that got accomplished in a short time because we through politics out of the window and we were opus of helping the american people. that's what leaders need to do. [applause] one of the things i've learned is the job of a leader to just slow down. we all need to slow down. and listen to others who are sometimes never listened to. then, you set an agenda that meets america's needs and you bring everyone together to make t reality. there's no place for dividing, polarizing, pointing fingers or trading on short term political
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gain. i hold to this philosophy of leadership because i watched reat leaders practice it successfully and i've seen it work in my own experience. i worked for ten years to pass that balanced budget. it was hard work. when i became chairman of the budget committee, our team was able to get it done - even with a democrat in the white house. we were proud when we reformed welfare and as a member of the armed services committee we all came together to reform the pentagon and realign our military services that resulted in a central command structure that allowed the services to work together. it's the same formula we used in ohio. we were facing an $8 billion deficit and had lost 350,000 jobs. in a few short years we turned that deficit into a surplus of $2 billion and gave ohioans the largest tax cut of any state in the country.
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[applause] we even repealed the death tax. ohio has now created 417,000 private sector jobs. up from the loss of 350,000. it's working. and we continue to work to make sure that no one is left behind. this can work for america again as well. ladies and gentlemen, when it politicians are moving, lips are moving, people feel they are being lied to. a lot of people have wondered why does he keep talking about what he has done? why? you see, i am a citizen, too. when somebody comes to my door
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and they want to know if i will vote for them and they tell me what their promises are, i look them in the eye. i say i know you say what ou're going to do but i want to know what you have done. i have had enough people tell me what they are going to do that never got it done. what have you done in your lifetime? we don't have time for empty promises. we've got to have somebody with the experience, the knowledge, the knowall and the record of success to dole with our problems in a turbulent time. now, based on the fact that my experience in washington and ohio have been successful using a formula to get everybody to and together to rise provide opportunity for everybody, i've proposed a 100 day agenda for when i am president. i can tell you, the rest assured, we will restore our economy with a fiscal plan to balance the budget.
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we will freeze all federal regulations for one year except health and safety, and rebuild our rulemaking system to stop crushing small businesses. which kills jobs in our country. [applause] we will simplify and reduce the taxes on individuals so all americans keep more of what they earn. it will help our small businesses. we will reduce taxes on businesses and end double taxation so that they will invest in america and not have their money trap in europe. we will send welfare, education, medicaid, highway infrastructure and job training back to where we live in the states. the states will be the laboratories of innovation and modeling what works. we will protect the border and use common sense on immigration reform that includes a guest worker program. and, we will fix social
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security so that we keep the promise to our seniors and uture generations. hen we do these things, we will unleash economic growth which means more jobs, higher wages, and the restoration of the american dream that our children will inherit a better america than we received from our parents. with increased stability and strength america can rebuild its military while at the same time reform the pentagon to operate like a 21st century nterprise. we have no room for waste in that building. it takes money from the first line of our men and women who protect us every day. we will clean it up. [applause] we will resume leadership of the world and as we do that we will treat our veterans with respect and lift them to make sure they have what they need whether it's healthcare, jobs or housing.
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[applause] when america is strong, less dependent on debt and growing economically, we can reclaim our place as a leader in the world. finally, when america is strong and actively engaged in the world, the world is a safer place and america is a safer place. you know, this is why we do these things. this is about how we want our country to be. you see, economic growth is not an end unto itself. it is a means to make possible everything we want for our nation and our communities and our families. nd, by the way, as we have growth, we have the ability to bring in from the cold those who live in the shadows, those who are forgotten.
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the poor, the mentally ill, the disabled. as americans, we believe that veryone deserves a chance to realize their god-given purpose. we give them the chance when we give them a hand. everyone should have an opportunity to pursue their god given destiny. yes, there is much to fix in our country. there are reasons for our anxieties and fears. our country has been drifting. why? because we have forgotten the formula that makes us strong and we caved to political onsiderations instead. not leading. not being servants. worry too much about ourselves. what feels good and what is easy. that is not the path to success in our country. we seem to have lost our way as a result.
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we are stalled. we are at risk of jeopardizing a better future for our children. i understand why americans are fearful and distrustful and looking for a reason for the way they feel. i was raised in a small pennsylvania steel town where if the wind blew the wrong way, people would be out of work. it's awful to feel that insecurity. to feel that circumstances are out of your control. to feel like nobody cares and all the institutions have abandoned you. but, we americans have overcome so many challenges them what we ace today.
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some think that the anger some americans are expressing is defined by some nostalgic look backward for simpler times. i simply do not agree. what americans are looking for is that quality of leadership we are sorely missing from the past to address today's roblems. at each moment of crises in america, we have united as a country and a people. it has been our secret weapon all throughout history. it's so simple but it is also nvincible. spoke earlier about the spirit of our country. but, let me say, our strength and spirit does not reside with a president or any politician. our strength resides inside of us. the knowledge that we can change the world. that we had been made special. the spirit of our country rests in the neighborhoods.
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the spirit of our country rests in our people. we are the ones with the strength to change the world. the power is within each and every one of us. a united america is undefeatable. we are an exceptional country. and that's because we are the exception in history - we are not an ethnic group or religion or language. we are that last great hope for earth that reagan often spoke of, because we have shown that when people from many different ackgrounds and ideas and beliefs come together with a common, noble purpose-to be free and just-we are unbeatable. two paths. one choice-the path that exploits anger, encourages resentment, turns fear into hatred and divides people. this path solves nothing, demeans our history, weakens
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our country and cheapens each of us. it has but one beneficiary and that is to the politician who speaks of it. the other path is the one america has been down before. it is well trod, it is at times steep, but it is solid. it is the same path our forebears took together. t is from this higher path that we are offered the greater view. and, imagine for a moment with me that view. fear turns to hope because we remember to take strength from one another. uncertainty turns to peace ecause we reclaim our faith in the american ideals that have carried us upward before. and america's supposed decline becomes its finest hour, ecause we came together to say
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"no" to those who would prey on our human weakness and instead chose leadership that serves, helping us look up, not down. this is the path i believe in. this is the cap america believes in. this is the america i know all americans want us to be. please join me on this higher path. together, united, we can eclaim the america we love and hold so dear. and lift all of us up to partake in its, and the lord's, many blessings. thank you. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016]
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>> during campaign 2016, c-span takes you on the "road to the white house" as we follow the candidates on c-span, c-span radio and >> the latest poll from nbc news, "the wall street journal" merrick showing that donald trump and hillary clinton holding onto a significant lead in advance of the new york state primary. joining us is the director of the institute for public opinion. thank you as always for being with us. >> my pleasure. how are things going? >> let's first talk about donald trump, a 33-point lead.
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and senator ted cruz is running third in in the new york state primary. why such a commanding lead? >> when you look at republicans in new york it is a different ball game. elsewhere. ns the tea members, party numbers, the white evangelical numbers. the numbers of people that ted cruz has been propelling his campaign with. john kasich is not very well known here. he has only done well in ohio really. that leaves it to donald trump ho is from new york. there are a lot of voters in new york who are looking favorably toward him. that is why he is running up gore here.
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this has been the case. he gets the numbers. all 95 delegates. that would be a gig story, indeed. >> in fact, governor kasich has been spending some time in upstate new york. not a whole lot of both by the border. lee: i think a few, and ted cruz was in the bronx. t is done by congressional district and if they can keep trumped below the majority there are a few delicate to be -- delegates to had here and there. these are long shots. the lion share is heading terms way. >> donald trump on the ballot, ernie sanders. can you recall a new york primary that has gotten this much attention to sleep in the process? lee: not on both sides. no.
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his is very unusual. new york is a different ballgame. we are definitely going to demonstrate that in turn of whether the trunk can reset some recent setbacks. hillary clinton may break the inning streak. the frontrunners situated on the democratic side to do very ell. >> hillary clinton with a 14 point lead over senator bernie sanders. >> yeah, it's all about age here. when you look at the people who are under 45, that is going the sanders way. when you look at people over 45, that is going clinton's way. clinton is running a 14 point lead.
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new york is a closed primary. democrats only can vote. sanders has been doing well with independents elsewhere. here in new york they will not be enrolled. that makes a difference. there are a lot more frican-americans and latinos in new york than there have been elsewhere. this state right now is going clinton's way. the senator is here. he had a good approval rating, 2% state-wide. it's no accident talking about when sheafs senator here. new yorkers look back at that time in her term very favorably. she does very well in new york city. upstate is raking pretty even between them. the lion share of the votes that is why she is an aspirant
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-- is in front as she is. >> secretary clinton and bernie sanders will meet. bernie sanders is been in italy, a couple of days off the campaign trail. back in brooklyn on sunday. does this impact any momentum he may have from the ebate? lee: we will have to see. that is why they do campaigns. it is a choice he made it to change the deck a little bit to make things go on a different path. the path is one that he wants esperately to chip away at the number of pledged delegates that are going clinton's way. ew york will do just the
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opposite for sanders. it will add to clinton's argin, not narrow the gap. sanders is looking to change the equation. who knows whether that will have an impact favorably for him or not. he clearly needs to do something to change the pattern in new york. he's looking at a situation where he is more likely to pick up more delegates and close the margin which is what he so badly need right now as we get down to the numbers to clinch the nomination. >> hypothetically, if it is a tramp/clinton race, will new york be competitive? lee: at this point new york would not be in play. hillary clinton would get 61% o trunk 32%. that is a 29 point edge. when you match up sanders it is a 31 point edge. new york is a very blue state and would remain so. >> thank you for being with us. we appreciate it. ee: my pleasure.
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[captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] >> pennsylvania democratic congressman brandon boyle will talk on some of the issues and we'll get the thoughts on the presidential candidates and the democratic national convention takes place in his district. and mark warren for "esquire" magazine will talk about his magazine piece this month which takes a look at the blurring lines between politics and entertainment. be sure to watch washington journal at 7:00 eastern
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wednesday morning. join the discussion. >> tomorrow, washington area transit authority paul wedefeld briefs the committee on the safety of the d.c. safety live on c-span 3. >> speaker of the house paul ryan formerly ruled out a 2016 white house bid in a press conference on capitol hill. here's a look. paul ryan: good afternoon. i just returned from a week long trip to meet with our alleys. i will tell you. it is amazing how ours has followed so closely overseas. i was asked about it everywhere i went. while i was there, there was more speculation that someone other than the current candidate will emerge as our party's nominee. want to put this to rest once
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and for all. as you know, i've stayed out of this race and remained neutral. my job is to ensure that there is integrity in the process, rules that means it is not my job to tell delegates what they should do. i have a message to relay today. we had too much work to do in the house to allow the have my on to swirl or motivations questioned. let me be clear. i do not want, nor will i accept, the nomination for our party. let me speak to me to be delegates on this. if no candidate has the majority on the first ballot, i believe that you should only choose from a person who is
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actually participated in the primary. count me out. i simply believe if you want to be the nominee for our party, to be the president, you should actually run for it. i chose not to do this. herefore i should not be onsidered, period. end of story. it would be wrong to go any other way. let me say again. i'm not one to be our partys nominee. norunning does not mean i am going to disappear. when i accepted the speakership i did so on the condition that i would do things differently than they had been done in the past. i made it clear that this would he a policy and communications focused speakership. i made it clear that this would be a policy speakership. and i made clear that we would be putting together a policy agenda and offer a clear choice to the american people. that's what i told my colleagues i would do. and that's exactly what i have
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been doing. look, there is a big debate oing on right now. it is about what kind of country we are going to be. i believe i have not just an opportunity for an obligation to it they are that -- advance that debate. insults get inked more than ideas. e have an obligation to give a clear choice to talk about solutions. that is why i have been giving peeches. that is why i have been communicating a vision for what our party can be. i believe we can be an ptimistic party. it is defined by our belief in the limitless possibility of our people.
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we want a party defined by solutions. by being on the side of the eople. we want to apply our principles to the problems of the day, embrace free enterprise, and reject cronyism. by solutions to those stuck fighting poverty. a strong and focused military. a health care system that promotes choice and flexibility. a secure border. a government that allows people to fulfill their america idea. this great idea that the condition of your birth is not determined the outcome of your ife. that is the agenda we're building right now. this job provides a platform of a conservative vision for our country. i am intent on using this platform not for me but for my
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house colleagues that believe conservatives and holds the keys to a competent america. this is a critical role that has to be played. i am in a position to play that role, to prepare for the fall campaign with the nominees. we can earn the mandate he needed to do things right, to fix our problems and get our country back on track. thank you. reporter: a lot of people said hey, this is exactly what he said about becoming a speaker and then he ended up taking the job. what do you say to people that are skeptical of you? paul ryan: apple and oranges. luke, those are apple and organization. being speaker of the house is a far cry from president of the united states. i am already a congressman. i was asked to take a responsibility with in congress that i have party then serving in. that is entirely different than
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getting the nomination for president from your party without running or the job. it is a non sequitur comparison. reporter: so what happens if this goes to a second ballot? what happens if someone from he floor put your name in? paul ryan: i will not allow my name and. i am opposed to my name put in place. he rules committee will decide what the rules are. i would encourage the delegate to put in place a rule that says you can only nominate for someone that ran for the job. reporter: only the three candidates remaining? paul ryan: i will leave it up to the delegate. i just think, honest, if you want to believe -- if you want to be president, you should run for president. when we select a nominee, we
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should be selected so when who actually ran for the job. i will leave it at that. thank you very much. i appreciate it. >> madam secretary, we proudly give 72 votes to the next resident of the united states. [cheers] >> we stand in efficient si is the subject of a house oversight and reform committee tomorrow.
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they will hear from the general and people from the pont gone and medicaid services. we have live coverage at 10:00 a.m. eastern on c-span 3. >> tomorrow, washington area transit authority general feld on paul wiede c-span 3. >> bono and deputy secretary of state were among the witnesses at a senate appropriations subcommittee hearing on combating violent extremism. from capitol hill this is about two hours, 20 minutes.
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[indiscernible conversations] this is what it feels like to be chopped liver. the subcommittee will come to order. the hearing today is on the causes and consequences of violent extremism and the role of foreign assistance.
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i would like to welcome our distinguished panel of witnesses. tony blink and, bono, general james jones, former national security advisor and present of the jones group international. and the high commissioner for refugees. i will have a seven-minute round. so number one, this was a good day for photographers. i hope you got a good shot there. i just got back from my 30-something trip to the region. i had the pleasure of being in turkey with bono in egypt. each person is tasked with trying to inform congress to
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inform congress that you either pay now or later. we cannot ignore this. the goal is for people to stay at home and not go to europe. the reality is the average refugee has been displaced for 7 years. in turkey we met people in a camp, preschoolers that were four years old. most were born in the camp. i cannot tell them when they would get to go home. if the war in syria ended tomorrow, it would be a night here to reconcile syria, but i hope that day is coming. and we'll have to deal with that problem. the idea of humanitarian assistance is necessary because some of these people are without food, water, and shelter. it is in our national security interests to get ahead of this problem before a turns into the jihadist army of the uture.
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humanitarian aid has to be looked at in terms of reality. ere's an op-ed piece by bono today in the new york times that i would recommend you read it. it talks about the dilemma of assistance. most of these kids and their parents are not going back home anytime soon. what kind of skills that should they possess to make them viable human beings in the country they will live for a while? and if they ever do go back to their home, what do they bring back to their home? every day that a kid is not educated. they're in the city of the country that they've been displayed too. the government of turkey has been generous making payments. free healthcare. our friends in jordan are completely overrun. in lebanon, there are more
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syrian refugee children in primary schools the lebanese hildren. to think that will not affect us is naive. to think it's easy is just crazy. o here's the deal. i am going to work to put together an emergency relief package. if you do not think this is an emergency, i welcome the contest. i welcome the debate. this is 1% of the federal budget. i do not want to take money away from malaria. i do not want to take money away from the peace corps. i'm not going to take money away from embassy security. what do we do? we have an emergency on our hands and we have to come up with a long-term strategy. it has to be world and not
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united date driven. n the op-ed is, bono's -- bono suggested that we should think big. i could not agree more. we know that radicalized populations were turned around. germany and japan were radicalized populations. the marshall plan did work. out of the effort we have stable democracies that our allies. the difference is the war is still going on and we do not have an occupation force. radical islam is spreading it -- its wings all over the mideast and throughout africa. the question for this committee, the country, and world is how do you destroy radical islamic extremists and other radical ideologies? general jones will talk about the limitations in military power. mr. bono will tell us about the
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possibilities of the private sector joining with the government to give people hope that have known now. i am a hawkish fellow but i learned a long time ago that you are not going to win this war by killing terrorists. he biggest threat to radical ideology is a small schoolhouse educating a poor young girl. that will do more damage to the extremists than any bombing can drop on their head. we have schoolhouses here at home that are in disrepair. we have domestic needs and $19 trillion in debt and counting. i am sorry the world is not more convenient in terms of needs that here at home. i do not ignore people in south carolina when i say we need to spend some money over there. i tell people either we end this over there are they are coming here. 9/11 is becoming a distant memory but not for me.
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the money this country's hands on the money site after the attack -- spend on the monedy site after the attack is about a trillion dollars. the two wars in iraq and afghanistan is about $1.5 trillion. we can argue about how these things the money but we are where we are. i am not here to argue about syrian policy. i'm here to find a way to go forward to use soft power to supplement a military trategy. you can do just as much good as any battalion of soldiers. without your assistance on the around trying to give people hope, nothing will ever change. to take land from the enemy is one thing. to hold it is another. for a fraction of what we spend in the past, if we do it wisely, i think we can turn this around before it is too late. if we do nothing i know exactly what is going to happen.
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some of our friends are going to fall. if the people in these camps are going to be our enemies. you have two choices when it comes to these young people. get involved in their lives now or fight than later. i choose to get involved in their lives now and let them do the fighting later. without their help, we will ever win this war. i want to thank each member of the panel for coming and sharing with us your vision of how to move forward to the subcommittee. i think we have a great pportunity with a modest amount of money to make a huge difference. i intend to do that but i cannot do it without your iu-in, support and advice. times are tough at home. but when you go to the refugee camps and you visit the mideast, you know it could be worse. senator leahy.
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>> thank you. i appreciate the fact that you are holding this hearing and i appreciate the witnesses each bring a unique perspective on he challenges. and to introduce bono ho says there are millions of people who will never know your name, can never purchase your music or go to one of your shows. all they know is there life is better because of the work you have done. you have not stopped since that time. you focus attention on poverty in africa. the ways we can dramatically improve the lives of millions of people. i know your children share strongly in your great ommitment. general jones is one of the most distinguished public servants i know.
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i have known him since way back -- i think he was a major. ong before he was a four-star, commandant, head of nato. he has this long and distinguished career. i have also heard general jones say so many times that there is no substitute for diplomacy and development. the general has been concerned about africa and where we are long, long before this hearing. general, i admire you for that. deputy commissioner clements has worked on refugee issues at the state department, the united nations for i think over 25 years if i'm correct.
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every time we have had her here. secretary blinken is involved in every one of the 40. he has been helpful to those of us here. i know it has been helpful to them. we look at the horrific crimes committed by groups like isil and boko haram. now, we can -- as chairman, you have said, limit the territory of control of these organizations with use of force. we will not destroy the ideas with bullets and bombs. i think our foreign aid programs can substitute in the middle
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east and north africa, which and promote stability protect fundamental freedoms. if they don't, they don't have a counter to terrorist recruitment and it is often lacking. we support a wide range of programs. they address these issues. they include economic and social development and so on. just spending more money is not going to do it. we have to do better. we have to know the underlying causes. why i want to hear from everybody here. i have an article written by the admiral. we were talking about the general earlier. the letter to the appropriations committee signed by 18 of our former colleagues, including the foreign majority leader. 10 i ask that that be a part of the record? i will also do this on the floor
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piecek that the op-ed that was part of "the new york times" be a part of the record. >> no objection. >> they talk about the development and diplomacy. we need that to combat terrorism. these things because you have a republican and a democrat from different political backgrounds. we have worked together on these issues for years and years. i was almost going to say "way back when i had hair," but you were not born then. [laughter] cathing up. >> the thing is we will try to do it. >> thank you very much, senator. general jones. when it comes to what to do, can you tell us why you support this idea of economic assistance
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, foreign assistance from a military point of view? gen. jones: thank you, members of the committee, senator leahy. thank you very much for this opportunity to testify today. i commend your leadership on the matter of grave importance to our interests and the future of the human enterprise. i'm very honored to be here with our fellow witnesses who have devoted much of their lies to the cause of human development, peace and stability. secretary blinken and i go back to the days of the senate foreign relations committee and of to recognize the tremendous work he is doing at the state department. from personal observation, there is no more passionate, thoughtful, informed, or affective advocate for development than bono.
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millions live better lives because of the work and many efforts of this committee and i thank you for that. i congratulate you, bono. you have my full statement, mr. chairman, and i will summarize very briefly. during my active duty service, our national security was designed against the struggle of communism and the soviet threat. security was expressed in the count andf weapons nuclear threat. today's threats are more diverse and complex than we faced back in the 20th century. they include the likes of countless terrorist and criminal enterprises, states that is triggering massive refugee flows, natural resource threats and those of hate and intolerance. these challenges are synergistic and extreme, yet are the opportunities created by many
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positive trends in our advancement. if our future is to be defined by your opportunities rather threats, it demands far deeper conception and understanding of national and international security. one less reliant on reactions and far more focused on anticipation and even prevention. one that centers on disarming the root causes of major multipliers of conflict and instability and one that is much less costly than what we practice today. it comes into sharp focus the premier strategic threat to global security and our own. not any single country, ideology or weapon, the unsatisfied demands for life basics including food, energy, water, dignity and a better future. as i understand it, the purpose of this hearing is to examine
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the causes and consequences of a violent extremism. for many leaders and their acolytes, it is born of the selfish lust for power. others find their attraction a depraved quest for belonging. for multitudes, the simple motivation is sustenance, fear, and coercion. but what is abundantly clear however, is that extremists bank on leveraging human wants and desperation for their own purposes. they seem to exploit human misery in the pursuit of scale. the scale increasing with sophisticated weaponry, violent extremism and a greater threat to global stability and prosperity including our own. i have long felt the united states and developed nations have a deep, moral obligation and self-interest to end of the boko haram and
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their ilk. defeating this thread has a military element. defeating radicalism strategically needs a broader set and that is where we and our allies play the most crucial role. u.s. foreign assistance has produced great achievement over the last century to alleviate poverty, global health and responding to emergencies. the return on investment in global incidents is enormous. the key now is investing our resources more wisely to leverage the full spectrum of u.s. and allied capabilities to defeat violent extremism. the conditions that give it oxygen in the most vulnerable populations. it seems to me we must realign our strategy to face today's threats the same way we recalibrate to defeat the isms of the last century with major overhaul since 1947. and the 1986 legislation.
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we need global development of the counter extremism campaign that is passionate and resourced as any fight we have taken on in our history. designed and resourced as if the future depends on it because it does. i would submit it with four principles. one, the battle plan must recognize stability in the 21st century is a complex ecosystem. development and good governance rooted in the rule of law. our foreign engagement and assistance programs must be synthesized and cultivated with these efficient programs in concert. two, we must integrate the public and private sector. no amount of assistance can substitute for the power of economic growth and employment , which is fueled by private sector investment. three, it must recognize the threat posed by lack of education, food and energy to stability. lack of access to these
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resources is a major driver of poverty and conflict. that means we must be promoting life stewardship required to sustain human well-being. four, the campaign must engage the whole of the u.s. interagency, the whole of our alliances and the whole of society to deliver security development and governance assistance that changes people's lives. in essence, these are the pillars. they are the arsenal that will cause the lasting defeat of radicalism, maintain u.s. influence in a needy world, and ensure the triumph of our principles, interests and values. in this century, as it was in the last, shipping a world of peace and prosperity will require american leadership at its best. with it, we can, we must and i believe we will rise to the extreme challenges and opportunities in this young century.
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with your approval, i would like to submit three documents for the committee's consideration. one is an article from the that is about modernizing global engagement. the second is the ngo initiative on the topic. the third is a recent speech i gave on water security. please except my deepest appreciation to the committee and to my fellow witnesses for your devotion of american leadership in global security development and security. it is the mission of our time and it is a cause for the ages. thank you. >> thank you, general. i will recognize the senator. thank you for coming. mr. blinken. mr. blinken: mr. chairman, as a wanna be a musician, i could
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only dream of opening for bono. thank you for making that dream come true. [laughter] i will take it. thank you more seriously for having us here today. i would like to focus my remarks on the efforts to counter violent extremism. our ambassador convened leaders and activists from across the city looking to try to bring people closer together in the wake of the attack. one of them was an extraordinary woman, a french-moroccan muslim woman, a mother of five, including a son who was part of the french army. he was stationed there in 2012 and there, he was murdered alongside three brothers in arms, three children and a rabbi i a radicalized 23-year-old from friends. soon after that, his mother traveled and talked to those who knew the son's murderer.
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first, as a shy boy who loved soccer, or football and later, as somebody who racked up 20 charges for petty crimes. she started the use association for peace, working in france to promote interfaith dialogue and helping to steer families away from violence. while latifah's story shows our capacity to find greater understanding in the midst of unimaginable tragedy, her son's death reminds us of the complexity of extremism in the modern world. it hardens our resolved to defeated. the u.s. has united countries around the world to defeat terrorist groups and individuals who threaten our security starting with daesh, al qaeda, boko haram and others. our strategies are making
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significant progress that was in my statement. which i have submitted for the record. even as we advance our efforts to defeat daesh on the front lines, we must work to prevent the violent extremism in the first place to stop recruitment, radicalization and the mobilization of people, especially young people to engage in violence and terrorist activities. since president obama hosted the white house summit on countering extremism over a year ago, the department of state has stepped up in what is a growing international movement towards diplomatic engagement and foreign assistance. we have notified congress of our intent to empower and retool the counterterrorism extremism and try to lead this effort. the bureau will promote a more strategic approach to combating it and other partnerships and engagements. 17, the president requested we build upon and expand our current efforts.
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we seek $186.67 million towards countering violent extremism which includes money as a portion of the overall counterterrorism fund. the press includes $21.5 million for the no global engagement narrative. we have invested in innovative programs to make communities more resilient against extremism. these resources would enable us to expand partnerships with national and local governments, civil society, community leaders, private sector and countries to address the drivers of violent extremism which i have to address when we get the questions. these resources allow to implement effectively the first-ever joint usaid strategy on preventing and countering violent extremism, governed by four or five priorities. ample a five voices that show the voice of violent extremism. second, increase support for innovative, regional, country based and research on the drivers of violent extremism and
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on effective responses. third, work closely with our partners at national and local levels around the world to actually adopt more effective policies to prevent the spread of extremism. fourth, to strengthen diplomatic partnerships to address some of the distinct underlying medical, social, and economic factors that put communities at risk in the first place. and fifth and finally, to strengthen the capabilities of our partners to prevent radicalization to violence, s, andally in prison making sure that former fighters are reintegrated into society wherever possible. at the heart of our strategy, a commitment to the principles that have underwritten and him president era of peace and prosperity since world war ii. the rule of law and fundamental freedoms -- human rights and human dignity. to thoseitment extends
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who flee violence around the world. when it comes to refugee resettlement and the refugee crisis generally, the first priority is to safeguard the american people. at the same time, we must and we will continue to provide refuge to the vulnerable, which has been the bedrock of our country for centuries. over the last several months, we have heard divisive and hateful rhetoric in all corners of the world, including the united states, which has conflated refugees with violent extremists. the ultimate success in the fight against violent extremism will be determined by your ability to hold fast to the very terrorists oppose -- our capacity for wisdom, compassion. i returned to paris a month ago and i met with the same group after the charlie hebdo attacks. latifah was not there because she was in washington, where secretary kerry announced her as one of the award winners. many of you in this room have been vital leaders encountering extremism, including
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through the foreign assistance appropriations. your leadership proves that a violent extremists are precipitating exactly what they hope to destroy. a little bit more closely bound together in defense of dignity, justice, and peace. thank you very much. bono: right. thank you, mr. chairman. thank you, senator leahy, members of the subcommittee. my name is bono. i'm a cofounder of the one campaign and i will jump right into it because i've been told not to filibuster. as you know, the irish invented the filibuster. so, i am going to read this because that makes it faster fall i have just returned from africa and the middle east. i was joined by senator graham.
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i visited kenya, jordan and in turkey and egypt. this visit revealed one fact and two fictions. the fact is that aid cannot be seen as charity. i think we can afford it. if there is one thing i would like you to take away from this testimony, it is that aid in 2016 is not charity. it is national security. when it is structured properly, fighting corruption and improving governance to qualify for the aid, if you be the best work we have against violent extremism and gaining traction. the two fictions revealed to me were number one, this refugee problem is temporary. it has lasted for 25 years. on our trip, senator graham and i heard the term "permanent
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temporary solution" thrown around with the irony of that phrase requires. the second fiction is it is simply a middle eastern problem. refugees are flowing from all over the world, especially africa. the top 10 countries that are hosting refugees today, five of them are african. in europe, the problem has moved from practical to existential. in 1989, the world divided came down. the remarkable moment to live through. who could imagine in 2016 another set of walls being built up? this time made of mesh and razor wire but walls nevertheless. members of the subcommittee, youme soberly suggest to that the integration of europe, the very idea of european unity, is that risk here. europe is america's most important ally since the second world war. are we not your most important
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ally in the fight against violent extremism? this should really matter to you, i know it does. put simply, as we have learned, if the middle east catches fire, the flames are out of control. if africa fails, europe cannot succeed. it is not rocket science. it is math. here are the numbers. by 2050, the african population will double to 2.5 billion, twice that of china. youth willworld's be african. personally, it excites me because i have a sense of who they are and want to be. of the one campaign, 7 million members, 3 million are african. we have a sense of the potential as an engine of growth that can roar. we fear that as the young people of africa are marginalized and missed lead, their anger will be
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channeled not to hope, but to hate. we fast track our friendship or we invite enemies. i know you in this room believe deeply that freedom is more powerful than fear, that hope is more contagious than hate. i know you will agree when i say that sometimes hope needs a bit of help. well, this is one of those times. to defeat bad ideas, you need better ideas. but the good news is, we have them. unhcr have great ideas on how humanitarian support can be done better and provide jobs and hope. they witness how the mood of a camp changes. they see the despair in the face of skilled workers not allowed access to the labor market. soberly i have to say to you that the international community, though it means well, is having a lot of meetings about the crisis and i believe issuing a record number of press releases. what it is not doing is cutting checks. as of last month, as you are about to hear, the humanitarian
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response plan for 2016 of the u.n. had only received 9% of the funding they require. 9%. no predictability makes it impossible for these agencies to plan, which is madness. absolute madness. another idea that i heard that might be of series interest to this committee -- of serious interest to this committee is prioritizing the support of countries that are not yet in crisis. i know this sounds counterintuitive, but the people i met, especially the military, told us it is critical that the country is not only survive, but that they thrive. imagine if the chaos that ripped through syria were to engulf
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egypt, or god forbid nigeria. these are gigantic countries. this is not melodrama. we now know that people that are running from war would risk the most treacherous journeys. doctors, teachers tying their children to their chests as they tie themselves to corks and tin sea,on the mediterranean off of the promise of a better life. we better have some big ideas to meet the challenge. and we do. i'm really encouraged to sit here and hear them come from a bipartisan committee. these countries need a, but it is not just aid. commerce is urgent here. new trade agreements are critical. concessions are essential. the world bank is being innovative here. so is gayle smith. you should be proud of these people.
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anticorruption campaigns in her own office around the corner at the one campaign will tell you that the reforms necessary to qualify for the loans can be as important as the loan itself. the african development bank has been in front on this stuff. the president understands that corruption kills more it aids,an tuberculosis and malaria combined. you have to be part of this package. in fact, he was also one of the first leaders to call for a modern marshall plan. so, what might that mean? the marshall plan, as america knows, was the first time the world witnessed development and security on a grand scale. the marshall plan was an idea big enough to meet the moment in history and an idea as big as the sacrifice americans made in the fight for freedom. an idea that showed america not only win the war, but have peace, as lindsey graham keeps reminding us. an idea big enough to change the
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world. an idea like the idea of america itself. you see, the peaceful europe i quickly grew up in the is under threat right now, was born under the marshall plan. history's greatest example of generosity has national security , which is what i'm talking about today. i am not alone. trade and development and security, that is what jim jones is talking about today. and he is not alone. aloner graham was not when he spoke to "the washington post" yesterday. the same thing. the finance minister of germany, not known for his wild announcements has invoked this. king abdullah of jordan, the same. king abdullah is worth thinking about because he is a military man. it is no confidence that he is a military man because i think and i am sure military leaders, at least the great ones, know the cost of failure will ultimately
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be borne by them, by the men and women they lead into battle and have to face when they come home. this is a new century. these are new threats. this is politically very hard. i hope i understand the challenges, the pressures you face as leaders, but in truth, i probably don't. i will tell you what i do understand. i understand america is not ready to give up on its greatness. i am not either. that is what got america to the moon and the spirit that got mankind back to the earth. helped america fight the greatest new disease in the world, hiv-aids. there were members on the subcommittee who refused to except aids was a problem that could not be solved. since 2002, we now have nearly 90 million people who will their lives so the u.s. taxpayer. if you are a u.s. taxpayer, you are an aids activist. think about that.
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i'm here today to testify to the united states senate that i have seen the impossible made possible right here in these halls. we need that leadership again in this moment of great jeopardy. it is to you are. when you serve history, you serve the people of america. with a bright history, we live it. thank you very much. >> mr. chairman, ranking member, members of the subcommittee. on behalf of the high commissioner and the u.n. refugee agency, i appear before you to speak on the global refugee crisis, especially to bat clean up for four heroes. on a personal note, it is a thrill to testify today with bono, whose advocacy has pushed leaders to act and whose early music helped to shape my
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high school years. [laughter] mr. chairman, you have my full statement for the record. as this subcommittee is well aware, attention to refugees has perhaps never been greater. yet, forced displacement is nothing new and has been steadily growing in recent years. of the 60 million uprooted people, some 20 million have been refugees. the remaining 40 million people are primarily those displaced within their own borders. if the uprooted formed a single country, it would be the world's 24th largest. last year, 42,000 people fled their homes every single day. at the same time, the number of refugees who were able to return home was at its lowest level in three decades. new conflicts emerge and the existing ones drag on with no solution. the human and financial resources of unhcr are stretched like never before in order to respond to the crises while
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continuing to adequately extend to those displaced. it is also important to note and clarify that while refugee camps are a favored visual image for the media, most refugees are not in camps. rather, 63% of refugees globally and 90% do not live in camps. they live inowns and villages. mr. chairman, the humanitarian system at large is faced with a critical humanitarian and financial dilemma. the funds available for administering aid are not keeping up with the rapidly expanding need. unhcr continues to make very difficult changes. our programs in africa, for example, are breaking point with only 35% of needs being met last year. beyond the funding challenges, we are witnessing today and am -- an unprecedented attack on the ability of uprooted individuals and families to find
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protection. in some cases, particularly in industrialized countries, this attack takes the form of policies that prevent or discourage accessing protection. in other cases, we see closure of borders making it nearly impossible for persons fleeing persecution and violence to find safety in neighboring countries. i was in serbia last month and went to macedonia when it was closed, essentially ending the balkans route north, leaving thousands trapped in countries and clear of their futures. not since preceding world war ii have we seen the rejection of refugees. within this claimant it is all the more essential to ensure nondiscriminatory access to protection while taking legitimate states to ensure their own security, country -- countries should not slam their borders shot to those who are themselves the victims of violence, persecution and often terrorism. and who have no other means of finding safety. as recent events have shown, such efforts can have the unintended consequence of supporting the business of
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smugglers and human traffickers. in contrast, efforts to what and -- efforts to identify those persons in need of national protection to address those needs are not only in line with international law, but also with the finest of humanitarian traditions. this approach recognizes that effective counterterrorism measures and the production of human rights are complementary and mutually reinforcing goals. we look to the united states to uphold its long-standing leadership role in record you production, consistent with the ideals in which this country was founded by continuing its example of welcoming those were amongst the most persecuted and most vulnerable in the world today. but amongst these challenges there is hope. this week in washington, we will support efforts by the world bank and other partners to increase development and assistance and resources for those countries that are hosting large numbers of refugees and in
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many cases, are geographically on the frontlines of our efforts of security. last week, gathering of donors of agencies agreed to a series of steps to support countries hosting large numbers of refugees, including the development of innovative financing instruments. another effort is the u.n. high-level panel on humanitarian financing to agree on implementable actions of what we call "the grand bargain" to improve the way the humanitarian aid mobilize and delivers multi-year plans. at the same time, we are working with governments and other partners to find new and creative avenues for refugees to find temporary and permanent legal protection. we call on governments to export various ways for refugees to move legally and access the employment without putting themselves in harms way. as i conclude my statement today, i leave you with three main messages. first, the original responses to displacement including humanitarian aid and resettlement needs to be reinforced and complemented with vigorous and creative
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alternatives that can be pursued now. in the absence of political solutions, we need robust humanitarian and developing responses, particularly in refugee hosting countries that are buckling under the strain. second, the current attacks on the refugee protection system , fueled in part by an unjustified length between refugees and terrorists often fail to recognize that refugees are the victims, and not perpetrators of violence and extremism. national security goals are in no way at all to with refugee r standson and unhc ready to help governments develop protections. and finally, u.s. leadership. it is critical to maintain a global refugee protection. americans care deeply about refugees and the u.s. government translates this compassion into strong diplomatic, moral and financial engagement that enables humanitarian communities to care for millions of uprooted people in need. mr. chairman and members of the subcommittee, i will end with a
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thought from one of the many passionate unhcr team members working on the front lines of the military in response on the islands of greece. she was commenting on a refugee who perished fleeing to europe and her sentiments reinforced the need for action. she said, "she escaped bombs, she carried mountains, and yet, she died at europe's feet." let us carry her along the way. thank you for holding this hearing and your interest in tackling these issues and we stand ready to assist in any way possible. thank you. >> thank you all very much. general jones, i just returned from turkey. turkey is no longer taking refugees from syria. are you aware of that? >> yes, sir. >> mr. blinken, is jordan taking refugees from syria? mr. blancinken: as a practical
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practical matter, very very few. >> what about lebanon? >> they have made it difficult for people to go in. >> the people of syria are trapped. there is nowhere else to go. general jones, what will happen inside of syria with this dynamic militarily? people trapped with no place to go. gen. jones: i don't have the crystal ball on that, but i would say nothing good is going to happen. i think the humanitarian catastrophe that the syrian oneation is involved in is of the great unanswered questions in terms of a solution of our time. we collectively with the united states providing the leadership morenk, have to do a lot to solve this problem. sen. graham: is it fair to say that jordan cannot take anymore refugees and survive? >> the burden on jordan, lebanon and turkey is extraordinary.
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if you equate it to the united states, if you look at lebanon, 1/3 ofre between 1/4 and the population is a refugee. that is if we took 50 million people in the space of a few years. the burden on their systems, infrastructure, on their economies is as you have seen dramatic. the challenge for us is to devise ways to help them in effect help refugees because the two problems we have are that we are in effect, pursuing humanitarian emergency solutions to the refugee crisis on the one hand and development on the other. these two things need to come together because as you said and others have said, these countries will face this for a long time. we have defined ways to create a win-win solution. the host communities have the -- have to benefit, along with the refugees. that is where we need to put our focus. sen. graham: bono, the whole
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martial concept is the deal with the reality. people are in jordan, lebanon, and turkey. many of them will be there for a long time. the whole approaches the leverage better outcomes and not just help people with food and clothing and make the reality. but also deal with the reality that you want to help these human beings. what did you learn on this trip? what was the takeaway for you? bono: singers should understand microphones. i think the egypt piece really disturbed me because i just saw the scale of this country and it is vast, extraordinary country. you could feel trouble brewing. mechanisms that were put into
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islamistslamp down on are clamping down on anyone that is criticizing human rights. christians, ngos, a number of people disappearing. you can see it is almost a mechanism going on its own momentum. that worried me. how would you turn people back? i noticed that the president was very concerned about the economy. as he should be because it is on the slide. i thought, is there a way that we can make trade agreements and things like that conditional on reform and human rights? things like that that would help him turn his country back from the precipice which we need him to do. sen. graham: the one thing we are not talking about is writing a check and walking away.
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bono: no. "a," youam: if you do can do a better deal. that needs to be something that counters extremism. you can get loans at a lower rate. that is the whole concept. that want the panel -- we are not just throwing money at the problem, we are trying to get better outcomes using some resources. is that the whole theory here? bono: i think it is. it is leverage. i really think that you cannot underestimate the trade. you cannot underestimate the concessional loans piece and the effect of tackling corruption because as people have to reform to get those loans, they will do the painful work of reforming. it is the only stick and carrot we have. sen. graham: what percentage of refugee assistance comes from american taxpayers, in terms of worldwide assistance? >> about 35% of our budget was
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supported by steer by the united states -- was supported last year by the united states government. sen. graham: you're asking us for more and you are asking other people for more. >> we are absolutely doing that. not only government. there are a number of traditional donors that have been very generous but also private sector. unfortunately, due to the crisis, i'm afraid we have almost raised $300 million from private sector supporters. of course, that helps to fund critical, life-saving protections and the many partners we support in the face of a lot of lives. sen. graham: i'm sure the members know this year we will be 30% below the fy16 number for international disaster assistance. we are cutting 9% below the fy16 enacted levels for migration assistance. we have got problems here at home, but these numbers are real. what would it mean to you with we enact these cuts?
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>> it would be quite -- nearly impossible for us to meet needs. it is difficult for us now. we were about half funded last year. the united states does a tremendous amount to support. $1.3 billion last year, but we need a lot more support because we have about $7 billion in requirement for 2016 alone. sen. graham: what if we were money with the condition that other people have to match what we do? >> it is hard to place commissions, mr. chairman, on saving lives. we caution against conditions on humanitarian life-saving assistance. obviously, pushing governments and others to give more absolutely needs to be on the table. sen. graham: senator leahy. sen. leahy: thank you, mr. chairman. i referenced bono earlier, your op-ed piece. i read it and re-read it.
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the needs of syria and other refugees, countries in the middle east and north africa -- a country like jordan which is so heavily saturated with refugees and you wonder what this does in the long-term for any country. there is no question we need money. we can't seem to pass emergency funding in this country to deal with the zika virus. it is our own country. or do some of the things we need here. i say this not because i am opposed to it. i am not opposed to helping foreign aid. you know my record very well. these countries you have talked , do they act as though they are willing to spend for money, like ms. clements said. >> yes.
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senator, europe has not mobilized at the level it needs to, but i think that is about to change. why was going to point to and i do think i could do it just by reading, is to dramatize the situation. i am talking about an existential threat to europe, the likes of which we have not seen since the beginning of the 1940's. really and truly, we are seeing in hungary and poland a movement to the right, this kind of hyper nationalism, a sort of localization, hyper localization in response to globalization, i guess. we are talking, the u.k. is voting on leaving europe. this is unthinkable stuff. you should be very nervous in america about this. we see the leadership of chancellor merkel.
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i think she is an extraordinary leader on this crisis. you see, she faces criticism in her own party. the german people have shown the way here. they have become the very heart of europe. that is brilliance. i think she deserves a peace prize or something. she is an extraordinary person. it is gathering momentum. i spoke with david cameron about gathering around stopping the refugee crisis and he is finding it difficult politically to take in more refugees. i think that is a mistake for the u.k. i think more countries needed taken more refugees. my friends here will back me up on that. >> i would hope there is a realization in those countries
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that millions, maybe tens of millions, of these refugees, no matter what happens, will never go back home. that is what you have -- i think we have to have the ability to work with these countries to help them absorb the refugees that are there and make a life worth living. refugee camps are going to be absorbed in there. you are going to have to invest in economies, in the institutions -- educational, medical, everything else. bono: you don't want this to spread. that is why i think we are gathered here. it is so complex to try and solve syria's problems. we know how to help with refugees. me just need to get the
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financed. a masking this committee. what would we be asking you to finance if this spreads? if this chaos that is going along the region -- you know, i understand a bit about it. you see this phenomenon. three extremes. extreme ideology, extreme poverty and extreme climate, you could call it. it is a parched earth, it is a geological phenomenon. in fact, it goes all the way to afghanistan. if you want to look at it as a geological phenomenon. those three extremes make one unholy trinity of an enemy. our foreign policy needs to face in that direction. know senator kerry is, but it is bigger than you think. we can sit here and talk about getting cuts and where we are going to pay for it. god knows i'm in awe of you lawmakers. i have worked with so many of you on making the impossible
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possible. i don't know how you do it. if you don't do it now, it is going to cost a lot more later. i do know that. sen. leahy: you have to do with the people that are there. you talked about egypt. secretary blinken, do you think the president,, do you think they will allow the dissent and release political prisoners? some nobody even knows where they are. is that going to change? we already have a lot of money in the pipeline for them. we could add more money, but are they going to change in any way? mr. blinken: it is a huge challenge, ranking member. we face the cute security faclems, it -- we are ing acute security problems,
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real security problems. this includes in the sinai, terrorism. they are real. on the other hand, what we know very well is in the absence of creating space in their society, people expressed their views to associate freely and to come together, they are going to sow the seeds of long-term instability. even if it works than the short run, it is not likely to work in the long run. a profound interest in coming to the realization that creating space in opening up is the best path to dealing in a sustainable way with the challenges they face. we are working on that. we deeply engaged in trying to move them in that direction, but i have to tell you we are deeply concerned with the direction egypt is taking closing down that space. putting people in jail for expressing their views. civil society being cracked down upon come including many of the partners we have in trying to implement some of the programs. sen. leahy: it always brings forth more questions. i'm agree with what you are
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saying, but i worried. am so many times it has led to greater extremism, which creates more problems. thank you for being here. thank you, mr. chairman. we will work together on this. senator maccallum, i heard you had to go. >> is that ok? thank you very much, mr. chairman. yes, i am going to an intelligence committee. it is exactly in the region we are talking about. i want to thank you for hosting or organizing this hearing. to all the men and women at this table who have devoted your life to making the world a better place. it is really important that you help us in the month of april. it was in april 2014 that 200 girls in nigeria going to school were kidnapped by boko haram. those girls have never been found.
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many of them are probably dead and some probably wish they were dead. when i look at what we are talking about here, i am looking at the impact of women and children, particularly children. according to you, commissioner clements, women and children continue to comprise 80% of the uprooted. with more than half being children. uprooted. what an incredible, incredible world. and we see what is happening to children around the world. not only in the region we have discussed today, but i believe anddren are on the move they will constitute a tremendous threat in the future, unless we show them humanity, compassion, and a way forward. right now, a little girl was shot in her head because she
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wanted to go to school and read. she continues to talk about one book, one teacher, one kid. girls are being recruited into slavery. boys are being recruited as child soldiers and into gangs. they are moving not only in africa, but in central america. the gangs, the murder rates, etc . unless we focus on the children, i believe we are going to ride the wind in the future. you said, mr. blinken, the perception of discrimination will turn somebody against us. we all said who helped us or who helped their mother and father. we also remember who did not help us and did not help our mother and father. so, let me tell you where i am getting because it is central america. how are we going to really focus on this, because i would say right now, the children of the world feel they are hated, that
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they are rejected, that they are pushed aside. their mother and father's are either being deported, or they have seen the agony of their father, who bribed his way to get to europe, or the desperation of the mother trying to find bread for them. what are they going to think? don't we want to work with democratic principles? we are sowing the seeds of hate. and the seeds of desperation. inken i am saying to you, and also to the high commissioner, what can we do to help? my own ngo from baltimore say we have to advance the money before we get reimbursed. money often goes to the u.n. but it often trickles down. not only are we talking about new money here today, we are talking about money being used smartly.
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so number one, are we really going to focus on the children> number two, are we going to get money out to the ngo's who are truly the ones there? the money in donor countries they are? >> thank you, senator. i very much share your concern. we are at risk of creating a lost generation of children. and we know what that means. first, it means of at least they will not have the skills and knowledge they need to become productive members of society. either where they are refugees, or if they are able to return home. that is the best case scenario. we know absent those skills, absent having an education, they are much likely to become prey to crime, early marriage, sexual exploitation and indeed, to extremism and terrorism.
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what can we do about it? just focusing on the syrian crisis. this is a global crisis. as kelly pointed out, it is truly global in nature. focusing on syria, i would think about it in terms of circles. what can we do inside itself to take away some of the drivers? the number one driver is violence. and there, of course, ending the civil war is job number one. the secretary is working on that eight days a week. even as we do that, working on the cessation of hostilities, sustaining that, working on getting more humanitarian assistance -- that takes away some of the drivers. >> don't do that. the circles and so on. circleshe concentric and so on. we end up going around in circles. that is the big picture. let's go to what i asked. right now, there are children either trying to get across the water with a life vest on. maybe with a life vest on. figure in a r -- they are in a ra


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