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that is really my only comment. that ties into what the administration has said so many times in this case that there are too many people here to deport everyone who was illegally here. isdon't even know everyone or know where everyone is. that is where we have to focus our resources. unpopular with republicans. they would rather see much more money spent on enforcement and deportation. but that is sort of, related to the rationale for this policy in the first place. host: arnett caller is from texas. our next caller is from texas. caller: good morning, gentlemen. if we are going to deport anybody, why don't we start with the 38,000 criminals in the
united states. number two, why is it the cubans are allowed to come through .osta rica as a port of entry and automatically become eligible for citizenship? thank you. that is a very similar question that has come up a lot in the briefs in this case. classes of lot of immigrants, including refugees from unstable political situations, who congress has said can come into the united states in an accident fashion. ofre are a lot of examples categories of people that pass administration, including the clinton and bush administration, that says, we do not have time to get a law passed.
we are just going to allow it. you have seen that play out. they're trying to tell the court, congress has that at this time and this time and this time and that only congress can do it. administration comes back and says, administration has done it this time, this time, and this time. it will be up to the court to balance those two out. the notion that illegal immigrants don't pay their share of taxes is just another right-wing myth. let's go to fargo, north coda. -- fargo, north dakota. caller: i have a question. i know someone who came over here. anyway, i cannot mention names. have people that are foreigners that come over get, why don't they
citizenship before they can come over here? and to pass a test to come over here, instead of bringing them over here, and they have to take the test? host: keith, the test is to qualify for citizenship. just to comeear, over to the u.s., they should take a test? caller: that is what i am saying. androught people over here they have to take the test while they were here to pass to stay here. takehy don't we have them a test over there before bringing them over here? host: ok, thank you, keith. you'll get a response. the reason a lot of people come to the united states ,o work toward citizenship people gain work visas or student visas. not everyone who come to the legally intends to
become a full-fledged citizen. host: in this case, does this apply to the hb one visa program? guest: no it does not. caller: thank you for taking my call. this problem is the easiest to solve without costing very much money at all. all we need to do is in force e-verify. with no job, they will self deport. and at the next president is a republican, and we have an attorney general, we took the handcuffs off and make the sanctuary cities illegal, which they truly are, and do something about it, this would solve itself. we need to go after government officials to create cities. this is a federal offense and they should be in peach or in jail. thanks for taking my call. respond? you want to guest: century cities are their
own dispute that the administration has been trying -- kind of severed from this case. same idea that you hear almost as of the political spectrum. it would be better if there could be a legislative solution here rather than leaving it up to a president from either party to make this policy ad hoc. host: let's go to joyce. caller: yes. we have federal laws against illegal aliens. i agree with e-verify. they bring down the wages on our citizens. the we are on the hook to pay for every child they have here when they are illegal, and welfareely, they go on and social services. it is costing us trillions of dollars. there is a "new york times" article that we are paying
$600,000 a month to support people. i don't believe that. we should put much more money at the border to keep people from coming in to begin with. plus, all the illegal people who murder our citizens and our let .ut of jail our police departments are working together properly. we are spending billions and a trillion dollars trying to get rid of these people. and with a come here and take low-wage jobs, we still have to so theye their lives can have lower wages. we have to feed their family. family, givetheir them housing, and now they are bringing in syrians and everyone else that wants to come in. people have been waiting years,
legally to come into this country, to be productive citizens. and when they come in and and likeour wages century cities, you cannot above ournoncitizens citizens. it is ruining this country. host: joyce, thank you for the call. her comment is emblematic of the politics behind this case tomorrow. guest: that is absolutely true. and both sides of the argument plan to go after the point she is making. you have a lot of conservatives who see it rightly as a kind of leniency. it is not a hard line. there are people who have come into this country illegally who commit very serious crimes. what the obama administration would say is let's do focus our
resources on those people. i think you are absolutely right. it just captures the politics. host: let's put this in terms of numbers. about 1.4 million children and more than 3.5 million parents dapa program.the instead make this point, it is worth 11 million people cheating are not paying taxes, without also be too many to prosecute? jail in pleasanton -- let's go to joe in pleasanton, california. is our the big problem laws are not enforced. illegally.ming here i do not understand. illegally.
we spent billions of dollars to build up the border control and they are still letting them come in. no one has any idea how many. afford to take in everybody that wants to come here. we are in trouble financially, and nobody wants to admit it. let me ask you, were you born and raised in the u.s., or did you come here from another country? caller: i am a u.s. citizen of the united states. i was born here. i am not an immigrant like the other people say. i was born here. here in thisorn
country, you are not an immigrant regardless of where your parents come from. host: thank you for the call. mean, a lot of the people from dapa were born in this country from two parents who are not citizens. that is the population we are talking about. host: beverly, from missouri. good morning. caller: yes, how about congress doing their job? john boehner bring a bipartisan bill to the floor, and then we would not have to be going through the court? it was bipartisan, it would have done been passed. we would not have to spend all this money to go to court. it would have been fixed. host: 2000 and five with president george w. bush and went nowhere because of republican opposition. maybe it would fare
little bit better and then next congress with a democratic president. you can see the political argument for that. there again, it is still a long shot, maybe less of a long shot it was a couple of months ago to take back the house of representatives, and that is where the resistance had been. it -- that is where it was last time. it was speaker bader, not the senate, that stood in the way doing comprehensive immigration reform. kathy, last word from cherokee, north carolina. good morning with sam baker of "national journal." it,er: the way i look at there are a lot of immigrants already here. they have families that are already here. it would not be fair to uproot , parents, they are
already here. to legalize a bill the ones who are here if they had a clear record. legalize them, let them pay taxes. let them go into the army, or whatever. you know, you have to look at it both ways. what it boils down to, we were all immigrants. the native americans were here first. host: kathy, thanks for the call. part of the argument that has angered so many people. guest: even president obama did not want to have automatic citizenship for people already in the country illegally, but to allow them to stay through a pathway to citizenship. conservatives decried as amnesty. host: bottom line, the supreme
court tomorrow, they will hear the case and decide what? [laughter] guest: something, by the end of june. that this- probably was done in the wrong way, or the states did not have standings. there is a because the tuition of question -- there is a huge constitutional question. we have busy with their questions are pointing to on monday. host: announcer: the nation's highest court will hear the case tomorrow. you can find it right here on span2. two -- c- democratic presidential andidate bernie sanders holds campaign rally in brooklyn, new york this afternoon.
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this morning we talked to fox williams,ibutor, juan on this. this is about one hour. host: juan williams of fox news and author of "we, the people." thanks for being with us. guest: good morning. thank you for having me. host: we want to talk about the book and campaign but the modern day figures it reshaped and confirmed the founding father's vision of america why did you write it and what did you learn? you know and it is apartment apparent we are going through tremendous change in american might have talked about other things the rate of change is accelerating in see it outfe and you in the terms of this political ycle of 2016 where people tell you how anxious all this change is making us. political phic and
change and economic change. so you get a lot of people who in i feel like a strange are my own country. i don't understand why it is you 7-11 and no one speaks english and we have so many immigrants. don't understand the increase in income inequality. it is hard to make a living. this anxiety in 2016 really has roots so i thaought f you are looking at the immigration, if you are looking wouldome inequality where you go to understand why the ssues have shaped america so deeply at this moment. i started going back on these people and found the who shaped america in keeping and affirming with the principles of the founding fathers. the people who have shaped steve scully lives in it in 2016. so when you get a roster of characters, billy grahams the the elical leader who set
mold for people like jerry dobson.ell and james jim baker. ou think of evangelicals as a key voting black, people who say heir religious values and traditions are essential in determining how they vote. that block is so key right now republican side. host: what is interesting about the book you keep going back to but ounding fathers referring to what we are dealing with today. here are a couple of excerpts the audience to get a taste. ou write future hitches will look back at present day as coming of age for the new america. we are simply following the instructions left by the founding fathers. guest: right. the thing is i was thinking the other day the founding fathers for a c-span interview you would have such trouble because they would be rock stars. everybody loves the founding fathers. they are a touchstone left and
right. the thinking is what is the ssential triumph of the founding fathers is the constitution has endured more than 240 years. anything that we write and reate the latest gadget from not , 240 years from now relevant. the constitution endures. that is their great triumph. the founding fathers show up and start to look around, that things get strange because even as they are rock tars they would be totally stunned at the reality of constant surveillance by cameras supposedly for red light runners but you mean the government is watching you time?he is that america? that is not the america we created. we are not comfortable with that. gay rights. they would say well, no, there's othing about gays in our constitution. gays were viewed as way outside behavior of acceptable
in the late 1700's. or you think about women. no women at the signing of the eclaration of independence or constitutional convention. thebgtdz not own -- they could own property. they are like you have a woman as leading candidate for the emocratic nomination for presidency? what? she say elling me succeed a black american as president? -- they his would be would be totally unsure what is going on even as they are rock and know their creation has endured. the question becomes for them the america that you guys live in today? we know we created it but seems somebody affirmed our values but have reshaped this america. there?o did the book answers that question. eople ranging from milton friedman to ronald reagan and ed
east -- meese but betly friedan who changed the vision marshall nd thurgood the lawyer who was first african-american supreme court who pushed against the idea of legal segregation specifically beginning in public with brown v board of on.ation and i could go the new york city police commissioner is one of my new of people who reshaped america but if you think about surveillanc surveillance, cameras, computers. statistical models of where and occurs, who perpetrates it and how we can predict and prevent it you say know who put this in play? bill bratton. down to this question. blueprint,stitution a a set of guidelines or harped and fast rules? guest: it is like steel.
is hard and fast but it is flexible. when a storm comes there is give.and we were talking a moment ago about women and gays and fathers, human beings they had star status, in their day and time a vision of what was possible and created it. not have imagined where we would go today in so areas. so the constitution does have ome give and take in it, but remember ronald reagan and ed meese they reacted to to the as reactednstitution living people was too tphreb flexible. scalia wrote on the gay writes they were finding rights people to marry but no one found in this constitution in centuries prior.
kn nobody. and he is right. but from the view of people living about a constitution in america in the 21st century they say we believe equal rights that you have to give equal status. he founding fathers understood the need for flexibility. that is why we have amendments to the constitution. that is is why that provision allows for amendments was built in. it is part of their gene kwrugs. the question -- gene kwrugs. the question is however and where did you bend before you break. that is where reagan and others said let's get back to the at least to king the spirit and intent of what was written and not start having making law from the bench. host: from his award winning prize" and nprhe and new book "we, the people" williams.is juan we will get to the calls in a moment. the shift led by the poor people you focus so much for earl warren, thorough good marshall.
and london r king johnson changed history making to he government's role protect equal rights and opportunities for all. guest: i wrote a biography of ustice marshall and one thing that stands out to me is this very simple idea, steve, that 1954 you had the government in the role of racial segregation in america. those were the laws. don't break the law. then you have a moment in 1954 where the government says, to segregation is nconstitutional, it is not in keeping with equal rights for all and equal protection for all. had beenovernment that reluctant to intervene on this southernecially in the states with the tradition of slavery and fight over the civil suddenly is on the other end and you get actors
police departments to the f.b.i., the president and ustice department having to intervene. you think of situations like little rock, arkansas, where the if and even es ontravenes the actions of the governor to say the supreme court has ruled that integration the land and of that is what we are going to enforce. that is a tremendous shift in role of government in american life and has had tremendous impact ever since. dean of the university of illinois this morning founding our book the fathers of our nation the four you highlight in the book "we, the people." calls.et to the phone michael joins us from good den , gadsden, alabama. caller: i want to tell juan he my favorite on fox news and only one i follow on and seems like fox news a
bunch of them contradict they want to play was.role that lou dobbs he is always grappling about -- seems like fox has so far he candidate right i just want to get his opinion on it. r -- big fan. guest: we appreciate the fact that people tune in. you have people all over the map and i think you have different voices. that is kwhy i'm amazed sometims you e say to me thank god are there. thank god there is somebody else with a different perspective. a credit to it is fox they allow all sorts of ideas to flow. clearly what you have there is ots of very strong personalities and strong points of view almost constant and think passionate
debate and you have to take it in that spirit, michael. you will see different people and some of them you like, some of them you don't like, some you with, but hopefully as you are a fan of mine, i appreciate that some you agree and i understand what he is trying to get at even at times me. may not agree with >> cathleen from chicago, lane.rat caller: good morning. how are you? i have been trying to get to you, mr. williams, ever since on fox. been i admit you are a southern gentleman. cringe for you i especially when those republicans will be flapping off talking about the president, talking about the democratic party and you sit southern gentleman and listen to them. but when they point to you and chime in, before you can open your mouth and get two you. out they beat up on they all start talking trying to wonder,ou out and i just
sir, how in good conscience can ou sit there and listen to that? sometimes i think you should be more forceful even if you have my tand up and say it is turn. i was decent when you all spoke. especially that woman i guess with the long dark hair, her and that greg and one next you, i can't think of the names. but they don't even give you a to speak. i really don't even know your opinions. you are a said, southern gentleman and you do give people a chance to speak, you look hat i see if like you are going it say anything good about this .resident or democrat thank you. host: how does that go again? the call.for guest: i do. i think that is why you watch. you see me say exactly what i think. obviously i think the president has his good and bad.
of the of a fan president than any of my colleagues. it is four conservatives and me. don't know that i'm a real hard liberal but i'm left of them.r compared to it is 5:00 and i'm so glad you are watching. thank you. everybody is there. get all kinds of vieoints an ideas and you are right, i at come feel like hey, how are you interrupting me? let me get my point in. thanks for watching. host: you play this tomorrow on the program. let's turn to politics and let you about ted cruz winning the 14 delegates from and the story ay on political.com as he sweeps feeding more anger towards the donald trump supporters and donald trump saying the process is rigged. guest: what you have is a nonvoting result in wyoming. we saw that even in colorado, major, big space and trump has
a theme and made it a theme, he is not only riticizing ted cruz for these kinds of closed caucus events but he comes out on top is going after the head of the republican national committee in process issaying the rigged. so, trump is using this, i think, to confirm his outsider status. that he is the renegade and having to fight the republican establishment. plays in that larger theatre. i think you will see him do very well in new york and from new york down the corridor to like.nd and the the question is what happens when he goes out west. triumphs, the wins that have come for ted cruz. hey tend to come in very conservative and western states. that is is where we are heading after this moment. ted cruz any way to get 1,237 the number required to win the nomination. donald trump does. but ted cruz could amass, in
of elect delegates, a suffer number when combined with combined with the ones he won yesterday in donald he can block rump from getting to 1,237 and ensure an open convention and in an open convention ted cruz has advantages when you get beyond the first ballot because he is been working the that people had on first ballot are committed to rump are actually cruz backers and on second ballot are ready to shift to ted cruz. you have got a ire in the house of the republicans. host: that explains there ad on the air in new york showing lady but mp is way congressional district by congressional district process cruz and governor kasich trying to get a landful handful.tes from
[video clip] > i think he is a smart guy that knows what is going on and i think he's not going to want york.stroy new he will end up being a good mayor, maybe a very good mayor. want to make new york great. from the williams cruz campaign, your reaction. guest: they are trying to make not a e donald trump is conservative.
that he is not even a republican because anybody who could relate in that way you say it is obviously in contravention republican views of the mayor. i think people at this point understand that donald trump adhere to republican or conservative orthodoxy but he is the challenger. guy that will shake them up. he is the guy that will get us of these rms of some
principles that people feel like we are not competitive, losing trade deals, he will speak for them. he will speak for people who being ke they are not heard in washington. but in terms of that conserve tough appeal this brings me back earlier point to you. going out west to really more libertarian even states and specifically looking campbelifornia, ted cruz thinks he has a shot. i think you e but can see by the reception he got in new york or on the east coast a great shot e here. but going west as we approach une and ends of this process ted cruz could amass a suffer number of delegates to -- a delegates number of to block trump from winning and if he does it by a su sufficient margin he's created the open convention where you first ballot he
can win. host: there is governor kasich yesterday in new york of aigning after a couple stops in maryland the primaries that follow and pennsylvania. island.icut and rhode [video clip] >> what we are interested here delegates that i won't beat donald it new york. but i think we are going to have momentum coming out of new york and win delegates. that is what we are doing, delegate hunts. would be t said it difficult to beat him in his own state. consider a good night? i don't know that. guy like political that. don't tell me if we did well. very well we just did with indiana is whether i'm told and by the way i don't know if heard but governor sandoval as now endorsed me popular
governor of nevada which is a thrill because he's a terrific an 80% approval rating. not that high but very fine. 'm also pleased with governor pataki and thrilled with who willy todd whitman campaign with me all across the country. guy and is a wonderful i'm thrilled to have hill. host: governor kasich at a new deli which i guess is mandatory for any candidate democrat or republican. guest: especially after he got pizzeria.business host: two points. state rule to ht get nomination governor kasich has won one so far. seconds, the delegate hundred -- his s in is strategy. state he ing won one
is derided by not only donald trump but ted cruz who asks why you here. you have only won one. eight state the rule that says he must win eight to qualify for nomination. that is fun -- that rules committee could change the rules but you have seen relationally in the last week only have cruz and trump made it clear that they don't they hat rule changed but said they won't change it that who disadvantage people have been in the race and amassed the majority of the elegates and that would be trump and cruz. so i think that works against scaring. when sich's hope is that people look in the convention if convention pen people say who beats hillary clinton that they can look at in the polls and see a clear record of kasich beating
clinton saying we want a cruz says he can do it but the position don't look like it. kasich's hope r that he can finds people that ill identify with him as an 10 to trump and cruz and can beat hillary clinton. host: it will be one heck of a convention. guest: it should be a lot of fun. people talk about if it is going rage and riots. i don't see that. but i think that given what is the republican party where so many grass roots feel the learn has betrayed them and they don't nderstand what is going on in washington and don't like president obama. you could see people at some moment turn off the politics and off to the process and that would be devastating for the republican party as we head november. host: we are getting tweets as well. the is one saying when people vote trump wins and when the g.o.p. appoints delegates
cruz wins. kasich never wins except ohio. michelle joins us from wisconsin. democrat line. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. the gentleman for his information. fox tphaonews. thatd out that juan is one tries to be fair and balanced reallyhe other ones just don't seem to get it although they say they are fair and balanced. no longer watch. get my news specifically through c-span. anyway, i was wondering how come establishment has church ard time keeping and state separate. classes we are taught this theme and that is part of
political process of the civics classes, and yet they time keeping those two things separate. ost: michelle, thank you for the call. guest: this is right -- thomas is very clear in his writings and the spirit in which talked about the constitution you want a clear differed divide church and -- church and state. that was not in the money until the 1950's. the post-cold war period there was an effort to plug into us as of god given rights for uman beings and democracy around the world and more but the is 150 years after declaration and constitution. so it is a big change. the key here in terms of what talking about is that the evangelical vote, the
the values ers, voters today are so essential to the republicans. and it is sunday morning and church at least once a month, 80% are either oderate or conservative and therefore more likely to be reliable republican voters. so, this has brought religion into the public discussion. so, issues like abortion and gay ights suddenly become values issues and as we have seen in this primary caucus process on ted cruz ican side came into this targeting evangelical voters saying he candidate.eir ben carson targeting evangelical voters. donald trump saying sometimes people say this is the first heard words about the bible and relying coming this onald trump is in cycle but done to appeal to
evangelical voters. no question people who put their values an tradition and at the fore hodoxy fronts of what they want to see from their politicians is part of the process. jim has it tweet. juan seems to think hillary linton will be the democratic candidate. guest: that is true. flint, go to alex in michigan. how is your community doing today, legislation? in there. are hanging thanks for asking. to say i congratulate you for being on fox news and all how but i don't understand you and bob beckel can sit there with that nd put up crap that they throw at you. you have to that have a living but i don't understand how you can do it, bro'. as a black man raised in the 1960's. congratulations. go for it.
it is i think that important that people even in the same point of point of ifferent views and say i haven't thought of that. he idea is that it sparks more conversation. it challenges people who may be ith others of like mind but here companies a different point of view and you have to -- here comes a different point of view respond.have to you say i don't know how you can sit there and take it. i wouldn't want that taking place o be without me there. i run into so many people who fox news and watch and i'm part of the reason. adds to the mix. that is the spirit in which i do the job. williams a graduate emmyverford college won an for politics the new black power and his new book "we, the we will go to harold from new jersey. good morning, republican line.
good morning. congratulations, juan. guest: thank you. caller: we should all have a search for the truth. heroes one george washington and abraham lincoln. they would never dream that we corruption, corruption to the extent that we $19 trillion of debt as a result of corruption. corruption in the congress. corruption in the supreme court. corruption at the white house. donald trump and he tells the truth and immediately berserk because we haven't had truth in a long, long time. and what is the truth? we are h is that supposed to be all the people, together.ople and what does that mean? not only that, but george washington, when he was the hero
the people wanted him to be emperor. he said no. today we have a man in the white emperor calls himself in jest but he thinks he can constitution, throw rule e ethics away and with you -- what would call it? his personal opinion of what the constitution is. nd he is a man who supposedly taught it in chicago. host: harold, thanks for the call. you, harold. what you have is i think if the back, he fathers came talks about the debt in this country, tremendous debt. and i think you are absolutely right. one of the things that george washington said in his farewell we should avoid ntanglements in tpoefrpb affairs and -- foreign affairs but take care of america first imagined we would
amass so much debt. e live in a completely different economic structure. back then a plurality of american people were farmers and having a central bank was controversial and a alexander ebate and hamilton prevailed and that is why we have the central bank and federal reserve. the power exercised by the fed and power on wall street i think you are right. too would be like, there is much debt and power invested in government because they were so careful about any kind of obligation., -- i am talking about how the federal government interact with the state and what rules are set. we have seen tremendous change as the nation has evolved. one of the things i mention in the book is that the rate of
change seems to be speeding up. they say that in this century, we are going to see change not at a rate of 100 years, but something like 20,000 years of change because things are just coming so fast, and it is discomforting a lot of people. i think the founding fathers are a touchstone for people to say, slow down on the rate of change. people may be comfortable with that and it has not clashed our economy at this point, but there are people saying that it looms out there. it is not the threat to future generations but to the integrity giveneedom that we were by the founding fathers with this government that has endured all these years. shepherd has this online. amount of paidhe advertisement in new york state by donald trump, $67,000. compare that to the super pac for ted cruz which is about
$400,000 and john kasich's super pac in new york, close to $600,000. with regard to democrats, a new showing that in downstate new york, new york city and other cities, hillary clinton is 60% and bernie sanders at 36%. think this is not consistent. sometimes, the polls will change, we know that, but this an average that is very much to the advantage of secretary clinton. on the earlier point about spending, it is incredible the great differentials between the super pac's and even the campaign spending being done by trumpnd kasich versus because it is the reverse of the poll spectrum has the big lead. the argument could be that from is so effective -- could be that trump is so effective in his use of media and people like cruz
and kasich cannot just call and get on the electronic does. he is a free media magnet. donaldack to your calls, in san antonio, texas. you are talking to juan williams . good morning. caller: mr. williams, i called to apologize to you because i am watching fox news and i sat in front of my tv and wondered, how can this man [indiscernible] and i have not heard you articulate. the way you are speaking this ashamed andeel myself criticizing you. i can see how intelligent you really are. i just wanted to let you know. [laughter] i apologize to you. guest: yes, they had a different
political point of view, and yes, i get interrupted with four against one, but again, overwhelmingly, this is not wednesday, but people say to me, thank goodness you are there to bring up a different point of view and make people engage to see things a little differently. i really appreciate the fact that they do not completely run over me because they could. and the fact that i am there says a lot about the values of fox news. "the back to the book -- 21st over the politicalization of the court has arguments the original founding fathers, alexander hamilton, described the federal judiciary as lacking that "sword" or the power of the army." can you elaborate? is no enforcement mechanism backing up in a supreme court decision overruled, so for example, when the supreme court rules and 54.
-- in 1954 paschal celebration was unconstitutional and illegal, they had no way to send officers down south to say, this is the law of right now, so what they did see is that, let's slow down for a second, we are getting a lot of persistence. that's do this with deliberate speed and allow the process to really take place over several years and decades. we know this has been difficult for america. looking around the country today, segregation is spotting up in american schools. you have high rates of continued segregation. in the 1950's and 1960's, it was almost as if no decision had been made, but to come to your point, it is not only that they have no army to enforce a decision, the supreme court we are speaking about, they also in that same phrase have no purse.
they do not have the purse or the money of the congress. they cannot supply dollars in order to enforce their decision. that the american people trust and have great faith in the wisdom of the justices who sit on the supreme court. they testified before the respective house and budget committees asking for money every year for their own personal budget. guest: but the idea is that we into the supreme court agreed deal of faith and trust in their judgment. host: dorothy is next in baltimore, democrat line. good morning. good morning. i really appreciate you. i really do on fox news. question, there are few other african-american contributors on fox news, so why is it that -- and you do not do this and what i like you so much -- why do they have to talk negative? they come on to talk negative
about african-americans. know we are not all on welfare. i have a lot of friends who are middle-class women. none of my friends or children are, and they are not out there, the officer, i cannot think of his name, they have to come more and they have to say, we all are this, and he is not either, so why would he generalize? that is what i like you. you are fair balanced and keep up the good work. guest: you are very kind. i do not share your view. i do think there are people who come out and have highly critical things to say, ,specially about black people and you see that, but i think there are people who say, hey, there is a different point of the deal i think what you just
it isbecause i think really important that we not engage in that kind of stereotyping or demeaning of people in a generalized fashion, i do not think it is fair and i think i will keep that in mind. i will make a point of delivering that message. host: one of the founding fathers, if you are to ask one question, who would it be and what would the question be? guest: at this point, it would be, could you have imagined the rate of change, and do you think we have lived up to the ideals? of course, the founding father i am most interested in is george washington. george washington is the one who had difficulty. i think this political cycle is so rich on this question. washington was very leery of political parties. he thought it would divide the idea of a unified american people. you have seen this come right
out of jefferson and adams and they go into it, so today, you ise donald trump, and from -- and he is almost his own political party. he comes in, and you see this, you see people writing about the potential threat of people who come in with representing the will of the people, but all of a sudden, these demagogues and the writings of some of the founding fathers are per trade as people who have the potential to be targets, so what would some of my george washington think of donald trump, but how would they view the changes that have taken place overall these years, and do they -- i think not only are they rock stars as they come back to life in the 21st century, but i think they are viewed as people who created something that has endured and their masterminds, but even a
mastermind, a person who created the first car, airplane, would be asked at this juncture, are you surprised at what has come of your creation? that we have supersonic jets, or are you surprised that the potential that your device or invention could be used? could you have conceived of it? i think george washington would be worried about the extension to a have partisanship and looking at congress on so many issues that have come from the intent parties of today. host: we will go to connecticut, andy, good morning. independent line. caller: i have two questions, do you think donald trump is a racist because of his position on illegal immigration? and the second on identity politics. becomeocrat party has the illegal immigration, black lives matter and women rights party.
i get the feeling they do not like men, is voting for iparty racist? guest: i would not make a judgment on donald trump as i do not know him personally, but when he says things like the mexicans are racist, of criminal class, obviously, that appeals to people who have racist sentiments and feelings. i do not think there is getting away with it, and you see the kkk heading out same, we really like donald trump. that will knock people back. people be uncomfortable. racial alarms will be sounding. what was the second question? host: you know, i was looking at the next phone call. guest: i think it was about self-interest. you said that the democratic party does not like white man, well, i think at this point, if you look at the numbers, there are a substantial number of white men who do not see their interest reflected in the
democratic party as you have portrayed, but i don't think that is necessarily the case. you have someone like bill clinton standing there as a ways ofthe icon in many the democratic party today. the question is, you are talking about self-interested identity politics because you are right. if you look at black lives matter, i find it interesting. they were not protesting at donald trump rallies, they were going after bernie sanders -- remember that when they went on stage and took the micromet -- to the microphone away from martin o'malley and the confronted hillary clinton? that is where they think they can make an impact. they do not think they can make an impact in the republican ranks. and you say, i guess identity politics is a problem of the democrats, but if you look at the republican party, it is almost an all-white party, especially white man, so it is not as if there is no identity politics taking place on the right.
terms oft that in minorities, women, and i don't know that you can call women and minority, but that is where they -- where they have found more of a home. i would be careful to say it is just democrats playing identity politics. host: do you think to andy's point that it shows how polarizing the political parties have become? guest: yes, that is what i said earlier when we were saying, if you asked me if there was one founding father and there was one question, i think it comes to extreme political polarization at this time and when you have both sides saying they like to trust government but they lack trust in the political leaders, wall street, insurance companies and the likes, even religious figures, i think that they would be very much uncomfortable with the idea that the people are losing faith in such major institutions
of we thee idea people, not the book but the constitution, the idea is that we the people govern, that is the heart and soul of democratic inclination, that you want people to feel as if their institutions are representative. issue you talk about, second amendment rights, but let's get to pennsylvania, republican line. caller: good morning. i wanted to ask his position on abortion. i have not heard them say anything about it. people often talk about issues whitewanted to say that folks were not considered human beans, and i think the issue of the unborn is not talked about enough, especially in this
election because hillary says they have no rights at all, but we have a charity called saved $3000 lives, and we offer to people thinking about abortion because they cannot afford babies and we have saved 80 babies so far. on c-span, if you consider interviewing us, we have more information. host: what is the website? saveunbornlife.org. not you see a human baby, whole or bears are anything like that, it is a human life with a beating heart and it can live outside of the womb at 20 weeks. why in this civil society to be still allow people to make the choice to kill that unborn baby? we have rights to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.
life is first for all of us. host: laura, thank you for the call. guest: i am a grand debt i don't know how to argue, but i am pro-choice. i am of the idea that a woman should have the right to make that choice and donald trump got into the trouble the other day when people who are in support of pro-life positions, when he said women should be punished, he had to walk that that, so you understand the lives that exist over this issue, so when people talk about this, i often am judging them by the degree of their commitment to help children, so what you say to me is moving because you are willing to put dollars and efforts into helping people and helping women as they make that choice and to the good health and success of that child once he or she is born. host: let's turn back to the new
york primary and one of the latest ads of bernie sanders's campaign on air across the state. >> washington contributions speaking fees and they get their rigged economy, tax breaks and bailouts all held in place by a corrupt finance system, and let washington politicians are paid over $200,000 an hour for speeches, they oppose raising the living wage to $15 an hour. 200 thousand dollars an hour for them but not even $15 an hour for them. and that is enough. >> i am a bernie sanders and i approve this message. host: we will have live coverage tuesday from new york beginning at 9:00 eastern time and here's the latest from the hillary clinton campaign.
[video clip] have a bigay, we decision to make and the new york daily news and new york times made theirs, both endorsed to the clinton for president. clinton is supremely knowledgeable and result-driven.
she promises to be a democratic champion, advancing the democratic agenda in the white house. and where middle-class americans have a real shot at prosperity. new york's choice for president, hillary clinton. >> i am hillary clinton
and i approve this message. host: is new york attorney point for democrats? guest: i think it is a key bernie sanders won the last votes and he is nowhere near in terms of delegate count to hillary clinton, so what he has to do is shift the way that we are talking and thinking about the democratic race because if you are talking to people like me, to political advisers, it looks to me like hillary clinton has this propped up, but if bernie sanders is hillary clinton's
home state to his side, which would rock the democratic establishment, it might change the reality because then people would say, maybe folks in pennsylvania, maryland, the states that are coming up shortly, maybe they say, wait a second, bernie sanders is not only exceeding expectations for blowing up the process. california and if bernie sanders was on the run at that point, could dh treasure the treasure trove of delegates and with the superdelegates be moved? right now, it begins with the votes in new york on tuesday. does he have the ability, not only to exceed, but if he gets 30% of the vote, he would have proceeded to exceed expectations, but if he was to win, i think it would shake the democratic side. raised $15e clooney million this week in san francisco for hillary clinton.
in new mexico, independent line juan williams. caller: if you really know history, i am sure you chose the before -- he flooded the streets of los angeles with drugs, he busted the union, everybody said that this man is so good like washington, but when you look at his record, he said deficits do not matter, he sent our country on the trajectory where we are today, and i did not know why everybody holds this man up as the pivotal of the greatest president who could possibly walk on water. this does not make sense to me. guest: let me say that this book is not about saying this person is great or this person is terrible. the idea of the book is looking at the political processes that we have today, looking at the reality of life we had been thoroughly 20 and early 21st
century and who shaped the way that we live. the reason that ronald reagan is in this book is about the tremendous impact he has had on federal court. again, what he did with the help of the future attorney general, it was to make the argument that the constitution should be read in the original intent and it should have the original interpretation of the words in the constitution versus people who wanted to invest with new rights and what they called the living constitution, so that is the emphasis. i think you are wrong to be think that reagan was not a great president. onnow people have arguments ronald reagan. i covered the white house for the washington post way back when, but i must tell you that even president obama has said that president reagan was a game changer in terms of reorienting government, the weight american
people think about government, the way we interact on such issues in the education you talked about immigration reform, and other crucial moment done by ronald reagan, so in many ways, i think he was a game changer. if you look at the people, it is looking at people like reagan in terms of his actions on the consequential, but it also brings in people like, why are you writing about this person? carson, the person said in motion the environmental movement in this country, the one where people today have arguments over epa regulation and the impact on business and the like, you go back and the idea is, here are the people, we, the people who have made a difference and have shaped america today and the principles set by the founding fathers. hay,er character, harry
and he put in place the idea of organized gay rights and organized political power that can come with people and say that gay people are entitled to equal rights in society. views, have your positive or negative, but the idea behind my book, and i think steve explain this in the beginning, i am not here on a partisan mission. i'm a curious mind saying, how did we get here? been in thehave clay and shaping america at this point? host: to give the basis on how you frame the debate, there is one issue about second amendment and you wrote a short excerpt of but lengthy chapter -- "no matter what side of the debate one is on, the reality of gun violence is frightening to us all. deaths areof gun suicides, but there is also a lively gun culture across america." guest: you see it every day.
we had an incident in the washington area where a firefighter was trying to help someone on the welfare call, in tot, a neighbor had called say, help someone may be having a medical emergency, but firefighters were coming in, and then gunfire through the door and it killed one of the firefighters, so it is just the constant scene of our day and -- how exactlyw did we get to this point in this argument? the supreme court recently affirming the rights, and this is the high point in terms of decisions that will injure justice scalia, individual americans have their rights to own guns, so in this book, it is talking about the evolution and
growth of the nra and how it has become such a politicized issue and how in fact the power, the political power of the nra has helped to influence the direction of the republican party and the way you think about guns in the society. host: ralph, virginia, democrat line. good morning. caller: thank you very much for being on c-span. i went to thank c-span, steve, mr. williams for coming on. i had some comments to make that mr. cruz has stated he will do away with the employment taxes .nd the corporations that would not prevent people from going ahead and incorporating to get around the law. furthermore, he stated that he will abolish the irs and he is going to make a postcard available to individuals to do income tax returns, very
impossible. i think mr. trump is a true republican elite should embrace him and go forward because he is the most popular of the candidates in the republican party, and i think if you would raise the issue, term limits on the house and senate would put him into power, and i hope he does well in the nomination and he gets the nomination, as well as president, and i hope after he gets the presidency, he will form a third party because he had democrats and republicans, those who cannot get along with each other after, and that is why he is so popular right now. that is all i have to say. thanks again for being on c-span. lindsey graham, mitch mcconnell and ted cruz will be voted out of there if mr. trump comes into office. thank you for c-span and taking my calls. host: ralph, thank you.
the idea of term limits comes up. guest: i was taken by two things that roth said. populace or popular, i think both apply to donald trump and he said, maybe he would form a third party, so we have heard this not from several people and be his ownp might phenomenon, but we think back historically, it you could think of just in recent times, john idea of, you know, the outsideulace who comes the political norms of the two-party system and that is a pretty amazing thing. i think donald trump has taken this to a new level. i am not sure how it works. i'm not sure if he is denied the nomination at the convention and then launches a third party, i am not sure what it would do
other than simply defeat the republicans in the general election because it would be taken from their vote. i don't think of of the boats coming from the democratic side. host: and he would not be on a number of state ballots because the deadline is in may and the convention is in july. guest: rights, save he would be a power player and he has that leverage. his name is already on the ballot and he has that leverage going in to the election. host: let's go to our last call from delaware, good morning. caller: how are you doing? it is smyrna, delaware. host: close. is,er: my question for you when president obama nominated garland, he used the word empathy. he wanted somebody with empathy on the court, and that jumped out at me, and that is not
or the the law constitution the way it is written and he wants empathy up there. bad scares me. that sounds like he is trying to do the opposite of scalia. if there is not a fair and balance, you have to appreciate that. guest: [laughter] good point. i think when he is talking, first of all, when you look at mayor garland, he is the chief of the d.c. circuit, so i don't think anyone is questioning his credentials, and he is widely respected on both sides of the aisle so this comes down to a question and this is what i say in the book and this chapter about ronald reagan. there is a contest of wills, it you will, about how you read the constitution, do you strive to a tear to the original structure or do you think this is a living document and one someone with
is being locked out of the political environment and you want a gym or five that question how would the founding fathers react? i'm not sure there are be , and you could be anybody. it is up to the president for the senate to confirm, so that is the way they've got about it. i think they wanted people from all walks of life, i think we are dominated currently by tko and harvard law graduates to an extent that that may trouble the founding fathers far more and then they talk about people who are empathetic and you would be surprised that there are women and it is shocked that they would be that on the supreme court. host: one of the questions you begin with your book, what with our founding fathers think of america today? what they say, this is what we expected or this is far different? guest: i think both are true.
you have to think about you or me going 240 years into the future. you could try, is this going to " orike "the jetsons something and people of be floating by the studio on some type of transportation? i don't know. there would be some level of shock, -- host: but the framework. guest: the parameters of framework, that structure, he would be so thrilled. they would say, you guys have been to civil war and you have not onlyo maintain, our principles, but the word of the constitution of the united states? we are so thrilled that you guys are true to the idea of democracy, the constitution and the idea we the people. host: of course, slavery one of the glaring mistakes in an otherwise near-perfect document.
guest: the biggest change i would argue, not only slavery, but the status of women. inwomen fighting, no women the declaration of independence, and today, we have three women on the supreme court and saying the potential of a woman as president, attorney general, you know, to this -- to them, this would be wow. we did not see this. explain how this came about. introduce as delano roosevelt and that is what the book tries to do. host: the book is titled "we the people: the modern-day figures who have reshaped and affirmed the founding fathers' vision of america." our guest is the last hour, juan williams. we will see when the fox news channel. thank you. gues quick start presidential candidate, bernie sanders, holds a rally in oakland this afternoon. campaigning with him, danny
devito and justin long. on york holds its primary tuesday. ,hio congressman jim jordan chair of the freedom caucus, talks about the role of the caucus in blocking republican leaders from being the deadline and the conservative approach to spending that they support. afternoon on this c-span. >> are live coverage of the presidential race continues tuesday night for the new york state primary. .oin us at 9 p.m. eastern taking you on the road to the c-span, c-span radio, and c-span.org. >> republican presidential candidate donald trump is criticizing the republican party's nomination process, saying the system is rigged. he has been speaking out at his campaign rallies. this one was held last week in
hartford. the republican primary takes place tuesday, april 25. ♪ mr. trump: hello, folks. hello. [applause] amazing. who loves hartford, connecticut? everybody. thank you, everybody. it is an honor to be here. a lot of people. people pouring in from outside. it is great. an honor to be with so many -- wow, look at this. i want to thank you. we have phenomenal poll numbers in connecticut. [applause] we are going to bring back your economy, jobs to connecticut.
we are going to bring them back. it is sad what is happening. our jobs are being sent to mexico, all over the place. everyplace but our nation and we are not going to let it happen anymore. we are not going to let it happen anymore. remember that. you heard it here first. with our competitors, the people i run against, i'm self funding. i come on my dime. when these other guys come up, it is a different route. just so you understand, they are controlled by the special interests, lobbyists. they are totally controlled by people who put up their money. no good. we have had it. we've now had it. this all began in june and i came down the escalator. i talked about illegal immigration. nobody would be talking about
that if i did not bring it up. i talked about the wall -- the wall. you better believe it. [cheering] mr. trump: we are going to build a wall. and mexico is going to pay for the wall. ok? i will tell you that. just like you are standing here, 10,000 people at least, just like you standing here, mexico will pay for the wall. they understand it, you understand it. we are going to have strong borders and we are going to stop drugs from pouring in.
by the way, pouring in -- i was just backstage at a reporter was telling me how heroin is poisoning our youth. we are going to stop it. we cannot let it go on like this. i came down the escalator and i said, you know what, this is something i have to do. running for president -- not easy, not easy. although, i'm enjoying it. we are having a good, good time. i love you, too. i love this guy. i love this guy whoever he is. so, i talked about trade, immigration, a lot of things. my focus was trade and illegal immigration. what happened is it took off. who would have thought this is
happening now? we are leading in the polls by a lot. lyin'ted cruz has ge way down. whoa. he's gone down. kasich was in favor of nafta. nafta has killed connecticut. it has killed hartford. it has killed big parts of our country. you cannot have people and you cannot vote for people who voted in favor of nafta. it is no good. it is no good. so, i started off with illegal immigration and trade. let me tell you -- let's talk trade because connecticut more than anything else. boy, do you need jobs. we need jobs. we are going to bring jobs back in. we are not going to be the dummies that lose all of our jobs.
we are going to be the smart ones. there is one of the dummies. get him out of here. get him out. there is nothing more fun than a trump rally. nothing. get him out. all right. all right. look. do we love our country? [cheering] are we going to take our country back? are we not going to be this stupid people anymore? we are led by people who are grossly incompetent. they don't know what they are doing. militarily, we cannot beat isis. we have people that have no clue. that is going to end, folks, it is going to end. it is going to end right after
this election. it is going to end. let me tell you, when i came down, i said you know what we have to do? go ahead. usa, you better believe it. [chanting "usa"] [applause] when i came down -- i have been doing this in new york. i was at long island yesterday. i just left upstate new york. it is being devastated by job
loss. i know hartford very well. i love connecticut. i know we have problems. we lost general electric. how do you lose general electric? [booing] i mean, it does not help you folks much. at least we lost them to the united states. one of the few. this does not help you too much, but you cannot lose general electric. i don't know what happened. i will say this -- if i were governor, i would not be losing general electric. that i can tell you, that i can tell you. so, since 2000, i said give me some stats because i want to have accurate -- this is right out of the book. since 2000, the number of foods that recipients in hartford county, connecticut has increased by 54,000 people. it is an increase of 150%. we need jobs, we need jobs. the economy of the state of
connecticut has experienced absolute devastation having to do with manufacturing. we know that. i did not have to get a report to tell you that. i could have told you that. there were 300,000 people employed. now there are 159,000. it has been cut in half. if i'm elected president, we are bringing our companies back and bringing our jobs back. [applause] there has been a cut -- this is terrible -- a cut of 30% in connecticut manufacturing jobs since only the year 2000. by the way, incidentally, that happens to be the year china
entered the world trade. that is really when it came in. you know what? no good. cruz, lyin' ted cruz. do you know who that is? cruz. he supports currency cheating by china because what they have done by devaluing their currency -- they are not supposed to be doing -- it makes it impossible for our companies to compete with chinese companies. we are going to stop it. cruz wants it to go want because somebody probably representing interest in china says this is what we want. let me tell you, folks, i'm self funding.
they are not. they are being funded by companies, countries. they are going to go where the money is, not where you are. remember that, believe me. i have been on the other side of that equation for a long time. i have been a politician -- i hate saying it for nine months, but we are doing pretty well, right? [cheering] the labor force in connecticut today is 10,000 people smaller than 2011. that is a lot of people. we are heading in the wrong direction. i can go on and on. no good. median household income way, way down. folks, we need a change but not an obama change. we don't need hillary clinton who is a disaster.
we don't need hillary clinton. hillary clinton is a joke. hillary clinton -- [cheering] hillary clinton -- nothing about trade, nothing about business except getting business and money into her own account using i don't think we can use the same term for hillary. hillary clinton is not going to bring jobs back to this country. wall street owns hillary clinton. wall street, remember. i agree with bernie sanders -- i agree twice. i agree there. i'm no fan of bernie sanders. i agree on two things -- hillary cannot do it. i agree with him on something very important. he feels foreign trade deals are a disaster. he cannot do anything about it. he does not understand. basically, he is a communist. what the heck?
are we going to have a communist? the system is rigged. the top republicans said donald, can you stop saying that? i'm telling the truth, i don't care. we are changing the system. all of these bosses have picked delegates -- i'm leaving by hundreds with delegates. i'm leading by millions with votes. hillary clinton said i have more votes than trump. i have been running against 17 people. she is running against one, ok? if i was running against four or five, i would have millions of more votes than hillary clinton. what is happening to the republican party is amazing because millions and millions of people are coming in that did not come in four years ago with romney who let us down.
he choked. he choked. he was gagging. we have a lot of athletes. you know the gag? he was gagging. we have millions of people right now, millions more coming into the republican party. 70%. in terms of votes, the democrats are down 35%. think of it. [cheering] the republicans wanted to play cute. if i don't make it, you were going to have millions of people who are not going to vote because they are tired of the republicans, the politicians. all talk, no action. they have totally had it. you can have millions of people
that are not going to vote and hopefully that is all. they are very, very angry and disenfranchised. we have a rigged system on top of it. despite that, we can get there before the convention. i think we do. [cheering] so, i built a great business and i filed my papers. these are the most dishonest human beings you will ever meet, the reporters. [booing] the most dishonest. the media, the media. the most dishonest. [booing] the one thing i like about the protesters, i call them
agitators because most of them are paid. we don't have any in hartford, but i will say this -- i will put them in different corners because the only time the cameras will show these massive crowds, the only time is when there is trouble. meaning a little bit of a protest the raises their hand and says something. these are really bad people. i want to tell you that. they don't tell the story. they don't tell the story. [booing] you know, it is funny. i've have the biggest crowds. they never say how big the crowds are. last night or the night before, bernie sanders in new york, they said he has 27,000. believe me, that was not 27. when trump has a crowd, they will say, we are here with donald trump.
they don't report what is going on. look, some are honest, but they don't report the kind of crowds -- they don't record, report it. for me. bernie always has big crowds. i have much bigger crowd than he does. they don't want to report it. they do not want to see what is going on. we have a movement going on the likes of which nobody has ever seen in this country. [cheering] [chanting "usa"] people are fed up. they are disgusted. they are disgusted with obamacare. they are disgusted with every
single thing that is happening to us in our country. we don't win anymore. we lose that every single facet. -- we lose at every single facet. get him out of here. out. out. [cheering] get him out. get him out. they just want to be on television for two seconds, that is all. i always say don't hurt that person, right? don't hurt that person. so, i will tell you what -- another thing -- trump rallies are among the safest places to be on earth.
it is true. we don't hear that. because the people in this room love each other and they protect each other and that is what we have to do as a country. we have to protect each other and that means everything. right now, we are undivided country. -- we are a divided country. we have to bring our country back and be inclusive and that means everybody. but we have the safest places that you will ever be. i see it all the time. if one person raises their hand, the next day headlines -- "trump's protester." we have great safety. i love our loyal people. there are no people like our people. [cheering] so, if you look at what is happening to us from an economic standpoint, we have gross domestic product which is practically zero.
if china had practically zero, they would have a revolution. china goes down to 7%, 8% and it is a big deal and there is turmoil. we are practically at zero, meaning we have nothing going. when i come up to hartford -- when i go up to new york state and i look at all of those empty buildings that used to have jobs, workers, great companies and those companies have left for mexico and other places -- when i see the kind of business that china is taking out -- china has had 5 -- think of it. we have a trade deficit with china -- $505 billion -- a deficit. we have a deficit with mexico of $58 billion. we have a massive deficit with japan and vietnam and every single country virtually that we do business with. we have incompetent or crooked
people making deals. they are taken care of by their special interests. we are not going to take it anymore, folks. it is over, it is over. [cheering] you know -- get him out. [cheering] get him out. don't hurt him. see how nice i am? i am saying don't hurt him. i say get him out! and then i go, don't hurt him, don't hurt him. ok, get him out. not supposed to be here. not supposed to be here. you know, they really do impede your freedom of speech.
you know, we have a first amendment right. they really impede freedom of speech and it is a disgrace. the good news is, folks, it will not be long. we are not taking it, and it won't be long. recently, they said what do you think of nato? now, i never studied nato but it is obsolete and the united states is paying too much. yeah, get him out, thank you. get him out. get him out. you know the biggest problem with these protesters is us. as soon as they raise their voice, they have nothing going. the signs are beautifully manufactured and handed to them , and they say why are you here? why are you here? the press was saying. the person said i don't know. i was told to be. why are you protesting against trump?
he said, i think so, yeah. this is such a con job being placed on the american public. it is a total and complete con job. the worst is this -- they have no voice -- they raise their voice. don't keep pointing to them , because we make more noise than they do. i will talk right over them. there is no problem. we end up making the noise. the poor person does not even know why they are there. that don't have a clue. here is the story -- we are going to bring jobs back to our country. we are going to have a strong border. we are not going to let carrier air-conditioning moved to -- move to mexico, make air-conditioning, fire people that were there for years and years. i'm a big buyer of carrier products. i will not buy them anymore.
not going to buy them. we are not going to let carrier moved to mexico. -- moved to mexico. don't make any noise, folks. that is ok. just nice and easy. nice and easy. is this the greatest place on earth to be right here? [cheering] the greatest. get him out. when i first started this -- i used to get angry at the protesters. i would say get him out of here! and then the press would say it was horrible the way mr. trump behaved. he was so mean and nasty. the next day we had a protest and i said please get him out. you know what happened? they said he is getting weaker.
that was no good either. get him out. look at those cameras the way they are all turned. look at those cameras. oh, they are so dishonest. so dishonest. get him out. [booing] get him out. go home to mommy. go home. they don't even -- i'm telling you -- most of them don't even know why they are here. when these guys -- they don't even show it -- but when they show it, they say we don't really know why we are here. i actually feel sorry. bring back what? ok. i won't say that. i won't say that. so, folks, you're going to be voting very soon. very soon. [cheering]
you have to promise me, you have to promise me you are going out and going to vote. ."]anting "we want trump thank you thank you. , i want you, i want you. we are going to get you. we are going to bring it back fast. they used to say the word silent majority. this is no longer a silent majority. this is a massive, noisy majority. we are on the cover of "time" magazine all the time. everybody is talking about us. we are not going to let go. nobody knows politicians better than i do. don't forget, i was
establishment 12 months ago, right? they always love you when they take your money. i was establishment. now, i'm probably as antiestablishment as god ever created. i understand the game better than anybody. i understand the system and the system is rigged. the economy is rigged, the banks are rigged. the whole deal is rigged. we are going to change it around. we are going to bring it back. we are going to really look -- i'm leading and delegates by a lot, but the delegate system is a disaster the way they count. it as a disaster. not fair, not good and not good for democracy. it is not good for what we stand for. so, we are going to win it anyway. we are going to have our 1237 anyway.
[cheering] but i have to tell you, it is a bad system and a dangerous system because people are angry as hell about what is going on. they are angry about what is going on. here is the story -- you are going to remember this evening. you are going to go home to your wife, your boyfriend, whoever you are going on to. -- going home to. whoever it is, enjoy yourself, ok? you are going to say that was a great evening. you are going to go very shortly, not this tuesday but right after, you will go because new york is looking fantastically. new york is looking big, big lead. big, big poll numbers. a poll came out nationwide -- he is gone, but lyin' ted cruz is like this.
i don't know what happened to him. lyin' ted. what a liar. lyin' ted. did you ever see -- he walks into a room with his bible held high. lyin' ted, folks. then hen the bible, and lies. remember what he did to ben carson? ben carson who endorsed me. and chris christie who endorsed me. but, ben carson during the election in iowa -- during the election, he spread the word that ben carson had left the race any told everybody's come -- and told everybody to come vote for him. right after the election, he apologized and said he did not know anything about it. he is lyin' ted, but he is going like this.
he is dropping like a rock in the polls. you know, when he goes back in the polls, he is like a basket case. watch what happens. watch how badly we beat him and we are going to have a lot of fun doing it, folks. here's the story -- i love being with you. i have lived in this state and i know this date and i have some of the greatest friends from the state. a lot of great people in hartford. except insurance companies charge me too much money which i hate. here is the story. our country does not win anymore. we don't win with military, on the borders, health care, we don't win with our second amendment which by the way will be 100% protected by me. [cheering]
you know what? we are going to start winning. when you cast your vote in a short period of time -- you have to promise me. does everybody promise? we are going to vote for trump. and if you are not going to vote for trump, don't bother going. we are going to turn our country around. you are going to look back in two years, four years, 20 years -- we will look at your family and friends and say that was the greatest vote i have ever cast. that is when america became great again. that is when we started winning again. that is when we won with our military. we are going to take down isis fast. that is when we started winning on trade. that is when we ended common core and brought our education back.
>> democratic presidential candidate bernie sanders holds a rally in brooklyn. is dannyng with him devito and justin long. we have live coverage at 4:00 eastern. newsmakers, ohio congressman jim jordan, chairman of the freedom congress talks about the role of the congress from blocking the april 15 budget program and a conservative approach to spending. newsmakers at 6:00 on c-span. >> he had a couple of meals and a steam shovel. it is one of the other ironies to be so rabidly anti-government and owe your fortune to the
government. tonight on q&a, author and investigative journalist talks about her book "the profiteers." it will look at one of the largest engineering and construction companies in the world. >> who else with the united states government get to build these projects throughout the world? ithink that it is fine for if the american taxpayer is paying for it, it would seem the american taxpayer should have some access to information about the contracts, the amount of , the, the worker safety political relationships. >> tonight at 8:00 easternn c-span's q and a. republican presidential candidate john kasich brought his campaign to a synagogue in great neck, long island, where he spoke to members of the
congregation. cameras were not permitted inside. but afterward, the governor talked to reporters about what he said. new york old its presidential primary on tuesday. governor kasich: i am currently working on a secret plan, to delay the primary so that i can spend more time eating in new york. and we have not been -- we are going to reveal the secret plan soon. because, listen, yesterday we were in watertown. the last time that a president for candidate had been in watertown, i was informed, it was teddy roosevelt. it was fantastic. the only problem was that i did not get an opportunity to see the lake.
which is -- or the island. i do not know if you know, but a chef from new york city ripped off thousand island dressing. that is not right. we went to utica yesterday. we had a beautiful effort. today, in the city and the neighborhoods, this has been so great. i am back to syracuse -- syracuse, i should say. on monday, i had a great time with the legislature up in albany. it has just been a wonderful, wonderful time. and then, there is no question that the opportunity that i was given today, to be in this great synagogue, given an opportunity to speak to the congregation, it will go down as one of the great
moments in my lifetime. and what a privilege. so, questions? >> are you in the process of examining a potential vice president nominee yet? governor kasich: i am not, not today. >> has the process started? governor kasich: somebody said to me that we need to begin to think about it. i said it seems a little early. so, this was just mentioned to me. i don't want to mislead you. i will get back to you on that then. >> governor, your speech about faith and the world, why did you decide to come here today and deliver that? governor kasich: i really do not know what i was going to say when i got here.
this was my speech. [laughter] ok, this was it. i wrote it about five minutes before i got here. not out of disrespect to the people i was going to speak to, but i had a lot of things that i wanted to say. now i did not want to make a political talk. i was just not interested. you go into a synagogue to talk about faith, i think. well, i do not know other than to say that i felt that i had to follow my instincts. and on two separate occasions during that talk, i reminded everyone that surely goodness and love will follow me all the days of my life. and i will dwell in the house of the lord forever. you see, that is about hope. it is also about why sometimes when i said things on the
campaign trail about this is not the only thing that matters to me, people have questioned my resolve. it is not my resolve the need to be questioned. it is the fact that i believe life is more important than a political campaign. because we are here, and then we are gone. that is why i think it is so important that we live a life beyond ourselves that i do not minimize the critical importance of leadership like teddy roosevelt, dwight eisenhower, ronald reagan, harry truman. leadership does matter. winston churchill, leadership matters. that is why i run for this office. but at the end, you know, and needs to be kept in perspective. and so, i tried to work to develop my faith as best as i can.
but as i told them, sometimes you do not know how strong your faith is until the storm enters your life. and you hope that with faith, it also puts into perspective your successes. so, i cannot tell you anything other than i got moved by the spirit at a moment like this. probably some wished i had talked more about policy or what ever. but that is all i have today. >> governor, you give everybody help. >> if you are president, we had the candidates talking about being a neutral broker. governor kasich: i am not a neutral broker when it comes to israel. the one thing i said is that the israelites had entered the promised land. and they always will be in the promised land, forever, until the end of human history.
they will be there. i am not neutral when it comes to israel. i consider them to be one of the greatest allies, the only democracy in the middle east, under constant attack. both above the ground and beneath the ground, with people walking in and trying to kill jews, just because they happen to live in israel. i mean, it is a terrible situation. we would all love to see some sort of two-state solution. that is up to the parties. i will not tell the israelis how to run their security. how to run all their foreign-policy. if i have something i want to tell them, i will tell them without any cameras being around. but they are undergoing tremendous pressure today because of the stabbings that has occurred. it seems that is one thing after
another. i stand with them. i am not a neutral party with israel. you count me as a force in their corner. [applause]with regard to that, e they need to constantly have military superiority. with the fact that even when i was in congress we began the early days of the iron dome and it has become have come the attacks in every single way and what i also am concerned about is the rise of anti-semitism in this world. i will tell you this, it will not be tolerated on our college campuses. >> he said that a two state solution would be able to achieve that. what role do you see?
senator -- governor kasich: the united states has always been .oncerned as a mediator i have done this at times in my life to bring parties together who have searched for stability and some level of peace. but you have to have:. that's why presidents don't run around the world having meetings without having an opportunity to achieve something. you have to have willing partners. right now i don't think that the israelis have a willing partner for peace. the moment that the willing partner would appear to see if they can stabilize the situation , i would be the first one there to help. believe me, i would do that. i have to go, everybody. sorry. i have to go. [many reporters asking questions at once]
>> and we are live now in brooklyn, new york. this is prospect park. a rally is just underway, a get out the vote rally for bernie .anders sally cohen, offering an endorsement of the senator. : i want the next president to be a democrat, but democratict president who supports reckless wars, make -- racist criminal justice laws.
[cheers and applause] i do not want a democratic president who pals around with wall street and the walmart family. i do not want them credit president who relies on broken system to billionaire her way into the white house. and then promises to change the broken system when she's at the top of it. i want a presidential candidate who changes the broken system now. [cheers and applause] folks, bernie sanders is making the road by walking it. making the road by walking it. he wants to transform america for the better as president and his campaign is already becoming -- transforming politics for the better.
[applause] that is change the we can believe in. [cheers and applause] listen, folks. it's really wonderful you all are here. don't forget, it's not enough showing up. you have to also hit the streets. this doesn't happen unless you turn out people to vote on thursday -- tuesday. go to the website and sign up to help. sign up to volunteer. folks around here with volunteer, get on the streets, do your part. this is already a great nation.
we, as progressives have always worked to make this country better. comes to our political candidates, we cannot do better than a combination of centrism, but we can do better. can have political candidates and the system that reflects our thiss the majority of country. we can vote our aspirations and not just our fears. we can transform this country for the better. we can elect bernie sanders is the next president of the united states of america. [cheers and applause] thank you. [cheers and applause]
than those who have experienced and seen war firsthand. and war veteran, i know the real cost of war. during my first deployment i served in a medical unit where every single day that cost stared me back in the face. as veterans we know what it means to have a commander-in-chief who has the mindset and judgment to know whether we should use military power. just as importantly, when not to use that power. that's why i have endorsed bernie sanders to be our next commander in chief confident he has the intelligence, the foresight, the good judgment to make sound decisions when it
comes to that most important question of war or peace. [applause] so, we have a clear choice before us. new york, this is an important one that you will be voting on soon. a clear choice between bernie sanders and, on the other hand, secretary clinton, who has shown time and again what kind of judgment she has. through her vote for the iraq leaving the military overflow of gadhafi in libya, which resulted in a failed nation, chaos, and a tremendous loss of life, as well as her promise to escalate the counter production of war to overthrow another government in syria. these are decisions that have cost trillions of dollars and countless lives. underminedhat have
our national security, strengthening groups like isis and al qaeda, whose terrorist actions continue around the world. bernie sanders on the other hand has made it clear, made it clear that he will end these unnecessary interventionist wars and instead use our resources to rebuild our own country, our own communities right here at home. [applause] this is the choice before us, new york. in your hands, and your vote you have incredible power. aboutible power to bring a new kind of leadership for our nation and our future. i have to say, the stakes are very high. now is the time to act. with me. choose bernie sanders to be our next president and commander in
chief. choose bernie sanders to be our next president. aloha. [cheers and applause] ♪ again, by willie nelson] ♪ welcomes and gentlemen, [indiscernible] williams. mr. williams: what's up, brooklyn. what's up, prospect park? i'm in new york city council member here in brooklyn. the daily news they endorsed another candidate. was they said about bernie
that he was at war with reality. i thought to myself, you are goddam right. [cheers and applause] the reality of too many people , toois borough, this city many people's reality is struggle. maybe if you are not at war with reality, you are not focused enough. being an elected official, i understand the need to make a deal. the art of politics. sometimes it's ok to shoot for the political revolutionary moonshot. [cheers and applause] only good things that have come in this country have come because of political revolutionary moonshot's. from an eight day -- from an eight hour workday to no child
labor. from lg bt rights to woman's suffrage. from the civil rights movement the fleet -- freeing the slaves, they were all revolutionary moonshot. [cheers and applause] nation is fromis a revolutionary moonshot. [cheers and applause] -- theare asking is people who say that it cannot be done, please move out of the way of the people who are doing it. [cheers and applause] in a few years from now when our children ask -- what were you doing when the birth of this revolution came? i'm here to say that we want to look at them in the eye and say -- we felt the burn, baby. [cheers and applause]
any occupy wall street in the house? mike check, mike check, mike check? believe in the revolutionary moonshot. [crowd calls back] i promise today to endorse the next president of the united states of america, senator bernie sanders. revolutionary moonshot, baby. [chanting bernie"] gentlemen, given the new york welcome to the stage mr. danny devito.
[applause] i am so happy to be here today you the man who is beholden to no one except the people. [cheers and applause] and put this man on pennsylvania avenue with our votes. [cheers and applause] gentlemen, we are here for a hometown boy. [cheers and applause] brooklyn, new york. i want to hear it. bernie. bernie"]anting " he's coming, baby.
kellen,ong, sally , somesswoman gabbard , and one of the great actors in america, danny devito -- a slip -- assemblyman williams, and one of the great actors in america, danny devito. [cheers and applause] welcome to the political revolution. you know, when i was a kid growing up in flat rush -- -- flatbush -- [cheers and applause] our parents would take us to prospect park. they still have the fields in the elephants? all right.
but i was never hears speaking to 20,000 people. so, thank you all very much for being here. [cheers and applause] this is a campaign that's on the move. [cheers and applause] that one yearaign ago was considered a fringe candidacy. 70 points behind secretary clinton. well, they don't consider us fringe anymore. [cheers and applause] this is a campaign that has one eight out of the last nine caucuses and primaries. [cheers and applause] and with your help on tuesday, we are going to win right here
in new york state. [cheers and applause] this is a campaign that will defeat donald trump. mr. trump will not become president of the united states. [cheers and applause] this is a campaign that is bringing millions of people into the political process. working people and young people who are sick and tired of establishment politics and establishment economics. they want, we want a government which represents all of us, not
just the 1%. [cheers and applause] this is a movement of people who are prepared to think big, not small. people who want to elect not just the new president, but to transform america. [applause] this is a movement where people understand why it is that we are not addressing the real issues facing our country. and that is that we have a corrupt campaign finance system.
there is a simple truth which everybody understands, whether you are progressive or conservative. cannot have aou super pac raise many millions of dollars from wall street or special interests and then tell the american people with a straight face that you are going to stand up to the big money interests. not true. let me say a few words about some of the differences between secretary clinton and myself. when we began this campaign we had to make an important decision. that decision was -- should we do like every other campaign, democrat and republican, and establish a super pac?
[crowd says no] we said no. [cheers and applause] we do not represent the , theests of wall street billionaire class, or corporate we do not want their money. we're going to do it a different way. [cheers and applause] what we said was so revolutionary. the americanto people, the working-class, the families, if you want candidate that will stay with you, -- stand with you, stand with us. in the last year we have million individual campaign contributions.
[applause] that is more campaign that any candidate in the history of the united states of america. [cheers and applause] anybody here know what the average contribution is? [cheers and applause] $27.s right, that is what the political revolution is about. how we are going to win this thing without being dependent on wall street or the big-money interests. [cheers and applause]
clinton has chosen to raise the money of different way. she has not just one, but a .umber of super pac's last reported, they listed 25 million from special interest. 15 million from wall street alone. but it is not just super pac's receiving -- giving her substantial sums of money. fact that today she has reported that she has given speeches before wall street for $225,000 per speech.
now, if you give a speech for $225,000, must be a pretty dam good speech. [cheers and applause] must be a brilliant and insightful speech analyzing all of the worlds problems. must be a speech written in shakespearean prose. thatis why i believe secretary clinton should share that speech with all of us. [cheers and applause] it is not just how we raise our money. it is the major first policy issue of our time in which we disagree. in 2002, secretary clinton was
in the senate and i was in the house. we heard the same evidence from george bush and dick cheney about whether or not we should go to war in iraq. carefully.very, very i didn't believe what they were saying. i voted against that war. [cheers and applause] clinton heard the same evidence cited. she voted for that disastrous war. boos] the worst foreign-policy blunder in the modern history of america. but it was not just, as congress were often -- congresswoman , sherd often reminds us
was active in overthrowing the government of libya without thinking about what happens the day after. [crowd boos] she wants a new -- a no-fly zone in syria, which in my view will get us sucked into a never-ending war in that area. something that i vigorously approach -- vigorously oppose. [cheers and applause] secretary clinton and i disagree vigorously on trade policy. she has supported virtually every disastrous trade agreement , from nafta to permanent normal trade relations, to china. agreements that have cost us .illions of decent paying jobs
if corporations shut down here and throw american workers out on the street and moved to china and other low-wage countries. [crowd boos] these tradeppose agreements, i lead the opposition to all of them. [cheers and applause] and if elected president, we are going to transform our trade policy. corporate america will start investing in this country, not just in china. [cheers and applause] secretary clinton and i disagree on minimum wage policy. the federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour is a starvation wage.
[cheers and applause] she believes we should raise the minimum wage to $12 per hour. not bad, but not good enough. we need to raise it to 15 box ucks an hour. b [cheers and applause] i am proud of the fast food .orkers who went out on strike who had the guts -- and i've been on the picket line with them -- [cheers and applause] to tell youguts american people that if you are worth 40 hours per week, you should not be living in poverty. thank you, fast food workers. [cheers and applause] secretary clinton and i disagree on a major, major environmental
issue. one of the great environmental crises of our time is the need to preserve clean water. going to do that with fracking. we have got to get rid of fracking. [cheers and applause] [crowd chanting "bernie"] the people of our country and the people of this world need to know that there will be clean drinking water for them and their kids in the years to come. up -- standto send up to the fossil fuel industry and tell them that fracking is
eliminated across this country. [cheers and applause] related, i'm a member of the u.s. senate committee on the environment. anyone who comes before you and tells you that climate change is not real, is not caused by human a committee, is not already causing massive problems in our country and around the world, that person is lying to you. [cheers and applause] we have got to understand that leaving this planet healthy and habitable for our children and grandchildren is a moral issue.
[cheers and applause] we have got to tell the fossil fuel industry that their short-term profits are not more important than the future of this planet. we have got to listen to the scientific community that tells ,s that we have got to be bold got to be progressive now in transforming our energy system. i have introduced the most comprehensive climate change legislation in the history of the united states senate. [cheers and applause] includes a taxn on carbon. [cheers and applause] clinton does not
support a tax on carbon. . am right she is wrong on this issue. [cheers and applause] everybody here knows that it is a result of the greed and the recklessness and the illegal behavior of wall street. this country was plunged into the worst economic downturn since the 1930's. millions of people lost their homes, their jobs, their life savings. ,he united states congress against my vote, voted to bail out wall street. [crowd boos] and they bailed out wall street because the major banks were considered too big to fail.
out that three out of the four largest banks today are bigger than they were when we bailed them out because they were too big to fail. turns out that five banks recently could not even produce documents as to a living will and how in a financial emergency they would break themselves up. i believe that when you have a handful of financial institutions in which the top six have assets equivalent to ,8% of the gdp of this country when they issue two thirds of the credit cards and one third of the mortgages, the time is now to break them up.
[cheers and applause] you know that last week goldman sachs formalized the settlements with the united states government for $5 billion. other banks reached even larger settlements. the reason these guys are paying , as everyone knows, they were producing millions of packages of worthless subprime loans the precipitated a great financial crisis of 2008, 2009. is that somemazing kid today in brooklyn is going to get arrested for possession of marijuana.
that kid will have a criminal record for the rest of his life. you can be an executive on wall street and your illegal actions can impact the lives of millions of people. but you get no criminal record. not you. you get an increase in your compensation. i will tell you what we're going to do. we are going to bring justice back to a criminal justice system. [cheers and applause] secretary clinton and i disagree on social security. here's the facts. today in new york city, vermont, and all over this country millions of people are struggling, struggling to get their heads above water on 11,000, $12,000 per year social
security. disabled veterans. security.h social not able to buy the medicine they need, keep the homes warm in the winter or able to buy the food that they need. my republican colleagues in the senate have a brilliant idea. they think the response to that crisis is to cut social security. [crowd boos] i've got bad news for them. we're not going to cut social security. we going to expand social security. i have outlined a very specific way to do that right now. somebody makes $5 billion per year, they are both contributing the same amount into the social security trust fund.
start at 250,000. we can expand significantly for seniors getting less than 15,000. [cheers and applause] and extend the life of social security for 58 years. i have challenged her and challenged her and she still refuses to come on board and system andp into the expand social security benefits for the elderly and disabled that's. [applause] vetseason -- disabled
[applause] . the reason our campaign is doing so well is that we are doing something radical in contemporary american politics. we are telling the truth. here is the truth. when a handful of billionaires, like the koch brothers and a few are able to put more money into the political process in order to elect candidates who represent the interests of the wealthy and the powerful -- when the koch brothers and a few money on ad more campaign than either the democratic or republican party, that is not democracy. that is oligarchy. and we will not accept that. [applause] and we will not accept republican governors trying to suppress the vote.
[cheers and applause] cowardly go-getters who are afraid of free and open elections. if you are too afraid of a fair election, get out of politics. get another job. [cheers and applause] this campaign is going to win because we are talking about a rigged economy. sisters, the united states is not supposed to be about an economy in which the top 1/10 of 1% now owns almost asthma 12 as the bottom 90%. [crowd boos] much -- almost as much wealth as the bottom 90%.
it is not about an economy where , areamily, the waltons more wealthy than the bottom 40% of the american people. together we are going to create an economy that works for working people. for the elderly, the children, the sick and the poor. all of us, not just the 1%. [cheers and applause] is gaining campaign momentum. because we understand that our criminal justice system is broken. it is an international disgrace that we have more people in jail
than any other country on earth. [crowd boos] we are spending $80 billion per year to lock up 2.2 million americans. together we are going to end that. right now. right now in this country youth unemployment is off the charts. and 20e kids between 17 if they are white 33% are underemployed or unemployed. latino, 36%. african kids, 51%. [crowd boos] we are going to inest in our young people
jobs and education. jobs and education, not jails or incarceration. [crowd boos] -- [cheers and applause] i want these kids to be working. i want them in school, not hanging out on street corners. about realg to bring police department reform. i am tired and you are tired of seeing unarmed people being shot and killed by police. [cheers and applause] i was the mayor of burlington, vermont for eight years and i worked hard with the police department and i worked with my community all over the state. it is the truth, the
overwhelming majority of police officers are honest, very,orking, ed ewing very difficult jobs. but the other truth is that just ,ike any other public official if a police officer breaks the law that officer must be held accountable. [cheers and applause] we need to do militarize the police departments all over this country. we need to make the local police departments reflect the diversity of the community they represent. we need to create a culture in is the last force response, not the first response.
we need to end private corporate of prisons and detention centers. the so-called war on drugs. [cheers and applause] over the last 30 years millions of americans have received police records for possession of marijuana. lives have been ruined. if you are a kid and you are out looking for a job and your prospective employer asks you if you have ever been arrested and you say yeah, i was, someone else may get that job. right now under the federal ,ontrolled substance act marijuana is listed as a schedule one drug right next to heroine. [crowd boos]
andink that that is crazy it is why i have legislation in and will make happen as president removing marijuana from the federal controlled substance act. legalizing marijuana is a state issue, but it should not be a federal crime. drugs, talk about everyone here on the fence, we have a terrific -- horrific epidemic of heroin and opium addiction. people are dying every single day from overdose. we need a radical change in how we treat drug addiction and substance abuse. [cheers and applause]
clearly the sensible approach is understanding that these are health-related issues, not criminal issues. [cheers and applause] and that is why we need a revolution in mental health treatment in this country. [cheers and applause] people should be able to get the treatment they need when they need it, not six months from when they need it. [cheers and applause] is going to win because we listen torn area people, not just wealthy campaign contributors. a few hours ago i was here in brooklyn in brownsville.
and i visited with housing in .rownsville what i learned is that in this city all over this state we have backlog inon construction needed. centers forunity kids that are closing down. we have kids who don't have a the job.etting unfortunately they do have hopes of getting it done. jobs, not to give guns.
that is why together we are going to transform our national .riorities we are going to rebuild inner cities in this country, rather than waste trillions on wars we never ever should have gotten into. [applause] this campaign is listening to our african-american brothers and sisters. [cheers and applause] they want their kids in good, effective public schools. not in schools that are crumbling. [applause] they want their families to have access to health care. they want the environment in their neighborhoods to be clean so that the kids are not coming
down with asthma. [cheers and applause] i was in flint, michigan a few months ago. what i saw there was literally hard to believe in terms of it inurring here in america 2016. children being poisoned by lead in the water. together we are going to rebuild our public infrastructure. [cheers and applause] when we do that, we create jobs.ns of decent paying [cheers and applause] listening to is our brothers and sisters in the latino community.
[cheers and applause] millione 11 undocumented people in this country. many of them are being exploited. many are living in the shadows. i agree with the latino community. we need comprehensive aggravation reform and a path towards citizenship. [cheers and applause] and if congress does not do its the executivee powers of the presidency to do everything i can. [crowd chanting "bernie"] this campaign is listening to people who get almost no hearings at all. that is the native american
community. [applause] we go the native american people more than we can ever repay. from day one, before we became a country, they were lied to and cheated in treaties that have been negotiated or broken. there will be a new relationship with the native americans if i elected president. this campaign [cheers and applause] is listening to women. and women, women are telling me they are sick and tired of dollar $.79 on the compared to men.
they want the whole dam dollar. [cheers and applause] know that every man here is going to stand with the women in the fight for pay equity. [applause] you know, as we speak we have got republican candidates running all over this country talking about family values. let us be clear with a mean. what they mean is that no woman here today or in this state or this country has the right to control her own body. i disagree. what they believe is a family values that are gay brothers and sisters do not have the right be married. i disagree.
[cheers and applause] jane and i have been married for 27 years. we have four kids and seven beautiful grandchildren. [cheers and applause] believe in family values. but those values are a little the than republican values. we believe that it is an international embarrassment that we are the only major country on earth that doesn't guarantee paid family and medical leave. [applause] i have been criticized for saying this, so let me say it again.
it is i very strongly held view that health care is a right of all people. [cheers and applause] and not a privilege. it is my view that there is something wrong when every major country honor, everyone -- the u.k., france, germany, holland, scandinavia -- i live 50 miles away from canada -- all of these countries have managed to provide health care to all people as a light. we are the only ones who have not accomplished that. [crowd boos] now, today as a result of the
affordable care act, we have done -- we have made some good progress. we've done away with pre-existing conditions. we've added 17 million to the ranks of the uninsured. we've done away with discrimination against women for the price that they pay for the health care that they receive. but despite those gains, 29 million americans still have no health insurance. of you are underinsured with high deductibles and high copayment. and every day all of us are getting ripped. by the greed of the drug companies that charge us the highest prices in the world. [crowd boos] and on top of all of that, we forup paying far, far more
f health care is in the people of any other entry. that is why, in my view -- other country. that is why in my view we need to move towards a medicare single payer program. [cheers and applause] and that program will save the average middle-class family a year inof dollars their health care costs. brothers and sisters, all of you know that we'll change never takes ice from the top on down. it always takes place from the bottom on up.
that is the history of america. that really is the history of america. ago, workers were forced to work seven days a week 14 hours a day,. they had no rights. they could be fired at the whim of the employer. workers said, i enough is enough. we will be treated as human beings with respect and dignity. we will form unions and engage in collective bargaining. [applause] forward of workers came , and in doing so, helped create the american middle class. hundreds of years ago, when slavery was rampant in this country, african americans and their allies said, we will not accept this abomination.
we will not accept segregation. he will not accept racism. we will not accept bigotry, and millions of people came together and said, in america, racism will not be part of what this country is about. [applause] 100 years ago, which from an historical perspective is no ago,at all, 100 years women in america did not have the right to vote, to get the education they wanted, or to do the work they wanted 100 years ago. women stood up. women fought back. women went to jail. women went on hunger strike.
[cheers] women and their male allies said, in america, women will not be second-class citizens. [applause] if we were here 10 years ago, and somebody jumped up and said, bernie, i think that gay marriage will be legal in 50 states of this country by 2015, the person next to her would have said, you are nuts. that is exactly what happened. it happened not because of the decision of a conservative supreme court. it happened because millions of people stood up with the gay .ommunity the gay community and their straight allies said, in america, people will have the
right to love whoever they want, regardless of your gender. [applause] that is how change comes about. people are looking at the status quo and saying, in this great country, how does it happened that we have more wealth and inequality than any other major country on earth? that we haveappen a proliferation of millionaires and we have the highest rate of childhood poverty on earth? how does it happen that our infrastructure, our water systems, our roads, our bridges, our airports are crumbling in
this great country? how does it happen that we are the only country, major country, that doesn't guarantee paid family and medical leave or health care to all? how does it happen that we campaignwith a corrupt finance system? , people this country this is not what the status quo should be. we are going to change the status quo. people understand a very profound historical lesson, and
that is that no president, not bernie sanders or anyone else, can do it alone. the only way we make real change is when we stand together. if anybody here thinks, we are bernie, he will do it all, you are mistaken. it can't be done. wall street, the corporate media, the wealthy campaign donors are so powerful. no president alone can do what has to be done, and what has to be done is that millions of people have got to stand up and bernie, he will do it all, you are mistaken. it can't be done. demand that we have a government that represents all of us, not the 1%. [applause] donald trump will not be elected
president of the united states. he will not be elected president because the american people will not support a candidate who insults mexicans and latinos. who insults muslims and people all over the world. who insults women, who insults of veterans, who insults the african-american community. let us not forget that before trump was a candidate for president, he was one of the leaders of the so-called birther toement, which tried delegitimize the presidency of the first african-american president in history.
donald trump will not become president, because at the end of the day, what the american people understand is that our strength as a people is in our diversity. [applause] we are strong and black and white and latino and asian and native american. when all of our people come together, and they are coming together, it's always more important and always trumps dividing us up. when i'm there for your family and you are there for my family,
supporting each other always trumps selfishness. the american people understand, maybe most profoundly, the lesson of every major religion on earth, whether it's christianity or judaism or islam or buddhism or whatever it may end of that is at the the day, love trumps hatred. [applause] on tuesday, in two days, there's going to be an enormously important democratic primary here in new york.
what this campaign has taught me is that we win caucuses and primaries where the voter turnout is high. we lose them when the voter turnout is low. let's have a record-breaking turnout on tuesday. [applause] new york state, help lead this country into the political revolution. thank you all! [applause]
york. coverage right here on c-span tuesday evening. washington heights being north of harlem. up down in new york this afternoon, former secretary clinton holding a campaign event, a block party with representative charlie wrangle in washington heights where secretary clinton danced to latin heights with a group of politicians. donald trump will be in buffalo, new york. his last public event before tuesday's primary. we will have live coverage on c-span3 starting at 7:00 eastern. of thelive coverage presidential race continues tuesday night with the new york state primary. for us at 9:00 p.m. eastern candidate speeches and viewer reaction, taking you on the road to the white house on c-span and c-span.org.
>> another candidate drops his name into the white house race. the constitution party nominated its presidential and vice presidential candidates this weekend in salt lake city. scott bradley will be the vp nominee. [applause] >> i appreciate that, folks, and i accept your nomination. [applause] i'm compelled to use a couple minutes of my time to thank you
people. you can't hear? how about that? is that better? how about now? joan for thank my wife standing by me for 38 years and my daughter joanna for flying from l.a. to be with me when she could be doing so many other things. today, i want to speak to you in defense of liberty. -- how aboutiberty now? is that better? that's good. i speak of liberty today and against tyranny. i speak for the republic and against the fascism that seems to be enveloping us. what it is, folks, this united
states government -- the general government, which would be a better term -- was created by the sovereign states for a specific purpose. that purpose was to protect our god-given rights. that was the purpose of the government. anything that runs followed that purpose is therefore illegal and unconstitutional. since virtually everything this government does runs afoul of that purpose, virtually everything it does is it illegal and unconstitutional, but there seem to be a lot of people who want it that way. this purpose, to protect our god-given rights, has been surrendered to a new government, a new global order that has enveloped us. these people are people like us. they get up every day and put their clothes on.
them, you might even like them. they even have principles. they are just not the same principles as yours. let's look at what some of their principles are. there are six principles these principles that what isssed on me coming. most of it is already here. we don't see it. has told us he would build a wall on our southern border. he said he would make mexico pay for it to prevent illegal immigrants from crossing the border. at the same time he is saying that and perhaps doing that, the u.s. government is building a fence around the entire world. here are some of the principles of the people who are doing
this. number one, world money. what do i mean by that? that probably doesn't include you and me. about what the international monetary about to issue. this world money would be money , oil,ternational commerce what traffic between nations. number two, world taxation. very close to being upon us. what is the vehicle for world taxation? global problems need global solutions, and what is a better global solution than a climate catastrophe? everything is caused by climate
change, from the destruction of the coral off australia's coast to the polar bears in greenland and alaska. .verything is global warming it's going to require global taxation. you can do a lot with trillions of dollars a year. it's what's coming. it is upon us. this climate change agreement that was passed a couple years ago. notice they call it an agreement. that's because they don't want it to be cemented to the senate for ratification. it's just an agreement. it's going to involve trillions in a global tax. a world government -- you have to have a world government to administer the world tax and world money. we actually have the beginnings .f this now the international monetary fund is the de facto world bank. the international monetary fund, the imf, and the world bank are the world's money source, and
the g 20 nations are basically a world board of directors. right now, the united nations, it is what it is, but it is becoming a debating club with the g20 running things. number four, cashless money. cashless society, i should say. that's where we come in. cash means privacy. no more privacy. this is upon us. many countries have gone totally cashless, making statements that this has to be done. say,f all money, bankers is held outside the banking system. every penny you spend, every recorded. make,
negative interest rates. you have to have negative interest rates because you have to confiscate wealth. inflation makes your money worth less. deflation makes it worth more. you pay them to keep your money. since it's all digital, how convenient. everything with a fee to the banks, of course. finally, the sixth thing, debt monetization. all that means is the banks create the money to pay the debt. are you wondering what happened to this $20 trillion of debt? here is how it works. the government issues bonds. central banks by the bonds. they store the bonds on their balance sheet forever. that's a pretty good solution to a debt problem.
in other words, they print the money to buy their own debt. that is coming, and that is what is going to save us from this debt catastrophe, this avalanche of debt that is engulfing the world. china's economy is slowing down. people who buy stuff from china are in trouble. germany,states, even all slowing now. what's the solution? there are things we can do. if i were elected president. there are things i would do. one, get out of the supranational authority. obviously, get out of the united nations.
the lady from al jazeera it asked me about nato, and i told her, it has outlived its usefulness, if it ever had usefulness. i think it did, at one point. we probably thought russian tanks were going to come rolling across the german border. the germans to look eastward every once in a while when they hear some traffic, but there are 28 nations in nato. we are only one of them, but we fund it. that allows the other 27 nations to use their gdp to fund their welfare programs. it's time that ended. that's my view, anyway. number two, and the federal reserve -- end the federal reserve. [applause] mean no more going to
the king's table for his scraps. no more crying and begging for an audit of this bank. please tell us what you have done with our money, that kind of thing. my view is that the federal reserve act should be repealed and the central banking system should be ended. you a plot that here in this party, but you need to think about the fact that would create a new america. all of a sudden, we would have to start asking how we are going to pay for things. as sam ervin said in the nixon years, sooner or later, that's back to real money. real money would be real money. number three, something has to be done about the debt problem. solving the debt problem is no small thing. unless we do, we are always
going to be slaves to our creditors. it's right in the bible, folks. it says, the borrower becomes the lender slave. there are many people out there to whom this government is beholden, creditor nations like china and so forth. i don't want to portray china as the bad guy. i'm just saying we've got to do something about the debt, most of it owed to the central banking world. constitution -- the sovereign states delegated 17 powers to the general government, only 17, and it is the failure of the 50 sovereign .tates to keep this government this led to america's decline,
in my view. it's the failure of the states to emphasize to the federal they are theat creatures, and the federal government is the created. government wouldand that is chg policy, change our monetary system. but if we really followed a constitutional tax, set out in article one, section nine, paragraph four, the states of the responsible for collecting taxes, and they would be out of the hands of those in washington. in other words, washington would go to the states of the money, rather than the other way around, and the states would not have to worry about saying how will we fund the budget? if you went into a trade budget like we have now, if you have 10% of the country plus population, it would be $400 billion, and the states would
collect that however they saw fit. as the gentleman pointed out yesterday, it might be attacks on the natural resources, of their petroleum industry or whatever. hawaii might be tourism, florida might be tourism. in tennessee, i don't know what it would be. [laughter] >> we have some things in tennessee we could tax for sure. we could start charging the 6 million people that come this will give national park $10 each or something like that. but the fact is the states could collect the money as they see fit, however washington would be greatly diminished and people would be free. no more scrounging for dollars to give the irs, no more call saying if you don't pay up we will padlock your business, things like that. [laughter] [applause] >> it's appropriate for us to take a minute and look at some of the other candidates, some of
the democratic and republican candidates, to see where they stand in the school system as compared to our constitutional world. clinton, have hillary mrs. clinton, telling us where she stands on the constitution just a few days ago. she made a statement and said "unborn persons have no constitutional rights." that's which he said, "unborn persons." i beg to differ. the constitution says nothing about the right to abortion, but it says that in two different places in the bill of rights. so obviously madame clinton is wrong about that. [applause]
>> i hope that haunts her for the rest of her life, and certainly during this campaign. now, bernie sanders, mr. sanders, says he is a democratic socialist, but there is nowhere in the constitution where the general government is authorized to own the means of production, and to allocate that production, and to take from producers their property and give to others. that's not constitutional. the road to hell is paved with these ideas. on the republican side, we have mr. cruz, who says some things . he says some things we might agree with, when all is said and done, more is said than done. he worries me. he worries me because he builds himself as anti-establishment, and the senate seems to despise
him, and they conspired to keep him from being nominated. he's being used as a hammer against mr. trump, and when mr. trump is hammered into submission, the nomination will be handed to someone besides mr. crispin. uz. that's just my guess from being a political observer. that he is very close to thinks that i am leery about. he's very close to the council on foreign relations; in fact, he's married to it. he's very close to goldman sachs; he's married to it. that worries me. how can you say your 're anti-establishment winter weather is only from goldman sachs? mr. trump also says some things i agree with. in fact, he seems to actually care about the american people and works to do what he thinks
is right by them. he wants to do what he thinks is right. in other words, he has no principle that guides him. he's not a person, as i am, that would say my constitution is my personal limit. it tells me the limits of my powers as president; what i can do and what i can't. it is the guide, the charter of liberty, the rule of law. he doesn't have anything like that. [applause] >> what he thinks is right is what he would do, and what we really need is a principal to guide us. ple is what i would live by. this supernatural authority i mentioned earlier, that transcends nations, it is very powerful and very scary. and it is upon us; it is coming. was, it is like a
meteor hurtling toward the earth and it will definitely get us. but what i am encouraging you today is don't be afraid. there is no reason to fear them. we have to go out and boldly confront these people. there are two reasons why we don't have to fear them. reason number one, god controls the civil affairs of men. [applause] god may not favor us; we have to face that. god may not lift me up and make the president. wickedhe decides that a rulers to rule over america, he must have some reason for that. if he resigns that hillary clinton will be president of t united states, he must have decided that though we deserve. so we don't have to fear it either way. we can take the view -- what is our job here, to be faithful. [applause]
>> just be faithful and understand that the bible is full of stories where he used wicked rulers to deal with his own people. and let's face it, we deserve it. we should be praying that he will spare us this judgment. number two, we are not descended from cowards. we are descended from great warriors. [applause] >> i am not talking about our fathers and grandfathers, although they were warriors in their own right. go back further. many of you know, if you are some of my podcast sufferers, that i tend to lapse into history from time to time. but if you go to the nation of scotland right now and you go up to the northern part of that island, you will see monuments to where people thought vikings.
the vikings raided all along the british coast and across northern germany and into the baltic countries. these people were vicious warriors. but our relatives fought these people, and when they heard that the vikings were coming, they didn't cower in their houses in fear; they didn't say, oh, i'm too weak, because it was white or die. these people were vicious, just as our enemies are today. naked,estors strip painted their bodies, got their swords and spears, and went down to the beach is to wait for the vikings, and when it was over with, the ones that survived went back and drink their mead from the skulls of their enemies. those are our ancestors. now, they're many and we are few, is what we are told.
the enemy as many; how can we face them? we are so few. did you know that less than 1000 young men saved the british empire from conquest by the knot sees? -- by the nazis? not than 1000 men did it, by cowering in their homes, not by saying i am to youngo, although many of them were, i'm too weak, too sick, too broke. they did it by getting up every day, every day, and climbing in those hurricanes and going out into the sky to face 10 times the number. one out of six of them died in the effort, but they saved england, and they saved all of civilization. you's what can be done if
have inspiration and you have leadership. s.e enemy is many, but u. marine corps general james mattis is credited with saying, "the war is not over until the enemy says it is. we can declare it over; we can say it is over, but he gets a vote." well, we need to tell our enemies today that this war is not over until we say it is. [applause] >> our enemies declared victory over us. they say we are defeated. science has decided -- they want to put us in jail if we disagree about climate change now. but nevertheless, this war is not over. i heard an interview the other day; you can find it on youtube.
it was a young man, 20 years old aring the war, shot down whole bunch of german airplanes. he was being interviewed today, still alive. they were asking about this, the fact that so many people died in the struggle. he said it was easy; it wasn't hard, it was easy for us to do it. we were fighting for our neighborhoods. think about that. they were fighting for their neighborhoods. well, we are fighting for our neighborhoods, are weak? he is in our homes, our churches, everywhere, and that is why we are fighting. we don't live in history. those flyers, they all fall back into history. is the only time over which we have dominion. it's the only time the matters, because we have power over them. now is the time. is it too late?
situation is desperate -- is it too late? i don't think it is; as my position. i don't think it's too late. [applause] he has been given this chance. i'm not a person who tells you, if i'm not elected the world is going straight to hell in a handbasket, although it is. [applause] [laughter] >> i am a person who says we are running out of time. this global system i was telling you about is on the verge of enveloping us. you can't walk down the street in a city of america without seeing on camera, facial recognition, which will follow you around the earth. big brother may not be interested in you but he could be if you want to be. and that's fine, unless you decide to go off the reservation sunday. sunday we may not be able to have some -- some day we may not
be able to have this meeting. and that we are is a good bid that the american dream is still there. [applause] >> soon, this meeting might not be possible. some of us are getting a little long in the tooth. there is a lot of gray hair out there. it's important that we strike now; it's important that you help me in this cause. i'll promise you this; i'll give you two promises. i'm a politician so i can make promises. [laughter] e number one is on that every time some poor grandmother gives me $20, i'll treated like the precious commodity that it is. [applause] >> number two, if god raised me
>> thank you. thank you for being there with him. i'm afraid anything i say at this point will be a distraction from the good message that we just had. to -- the next item in our business is to proceed with the nomination for vice president. i know you are barely situated, but would you come up and share with us once again? of vice president of candidate? -- vice presidential candidate?
>> i appreciate that. thank you very much. for at least like one of the other candidates whose opinion i respect and covet to say a few words about my choice of scott. anded scott on the ticket, could dear friend and i tell you will the political reasons what i would like to that, i, but other than know him as a men of honor and integrity, who understands the foundations of this country that i have tried to articulate myself, and i have every confidence in him, so i will turn it over to him. [applause]
>> yes, i think it's -- -- i didn'twill say know of i would do this before the speech are not. it's not appropriate for motion at this time. our standing rules require that the choice the presidential nominee be put to an up or down vote. so we're going to hear from our vice president, the joyce first, and then we will take care of that. methose of you that know know that rarely am i speechless. [laughter] >> this is one of those times, not really. -- ieeply humbled, and i respect and honor all these principles, in it overwhelms me.
the fact that i may be able to be an instrument in trying to close those and bring them forth throughout the nation is an awesome task that i relish. i've dedicated my life to the proposition that these principles be re-instill in the heart of american. people ask me how long ago i got started in this program, and i tell them before i was born. i really believe that. ago, your member 46+ years i took an oath when i went into the military to uphold and sustain these principles the nation was founded on. that's not an oath that has an expiration date on it. it's something i believe we must stand with for the remainder of all existence. and i'm committed to that. little bitll you a about myself so that you guys will have a chance to may kelly something of an informed decision.
tamara, med to camer y, wife in ou wife, in our 42ndf marriage. [applause] >> i have to say that, that's a pretty short time, and i hope if she will keep me, i will be able to be with her forever, because she is precious to me. she is the best thing that is ever happened to me. we have been blessed with five children, would have loved to have more, but we are getting grandchildren now. we have 11 of those and we are mad we don't have more. [laughter] >> grandchildren are your reward for having children, they truly are. and as i have studied the founding fathers, their words, their actions, for probably close to 50 years, i have devoted my life to that. there's a lot of things i have
learned from that, in one of those things that what they did, they did largely for their posterity. they incorporated that into the preamble of the united states constitution. and he would be shocked how often in their speeches they spoke of their prosperity. they wereose men knew not going to live to see the great listings of liberty they hoped they were bringing forth clear to fruition. they prayed that their children and grandchildren will live under it. so what i do, i do for your grandchildren, too. because many of them are not able to stand in the gap. we that know must stand in that gap now. we cannot allow it to be breached. the challenges are great. and we -- some of u have a
fairly good idea about those things. the understanding of the solution is so rarely known, and we need to be what the savior spoke of, that goes throughout the world and brings to the whole loaf that good that levin does. all of us need to be engaged in that. this cannot be something we go home to our homes after we are done and weight for him to be a light did -- and wait for him to be elected. this is something you have to build in your own hometowns in counties and states. links arms with those that love these principles like you do, because we're few i numbern, number, but i truly,
believe that the heavenly hosts -- this cause of liberty, the freedom of mankind -- is truly ordained by god. the founding fathers absolutely believed that. and we're their inheritors. we have a duty to perform. the cannot rest on the laurels of anyone else. just a few things -- whatever happens here today, i'm on a path and have been for years. is focuseds degree on political science; my master's degrees in public administration; my phd is in constitutional law. trying toated my life make popular the sound principles that we were granted under the inspiration of god by a wise man that he raceised up. regardless of what happens, i will be on the trail.
the trail of liberty. my license plate is freeman. i'm a free man gathering freemen, in the generic sense, all mankind. i'm of free man gathering freemen to the cause of liberty, and i am committed to that. to join with me and with us together. let us pledge again our lives, fortunes, and sacred honors, as the founding fathers did. who stood on those the shoreline and watch the enemy, or someone who stood at the pulpit and preached the gospel, we need to participate intermeshed lives with this. i think darrell for this honor; there are others i could do a better job than me, i'm certain,
but nobody could do a better job. i would love to meet with people like you. this is what america is about. americans that really care, that will give what they need to give in order to be able to preserve the blessings of liberty for their posterity. thank you again, and trust me, i'm overwhelmed. maybe i will say more when i get a couple thoughts. thank you. [applause]
>> i be -- the way i heard it is that those matters which should be rightfully taxed in accordance with the powers delegated to the national government, that the state should be the ones that collects that through an process.ed. this welfare stop has got to stop; we cannot continue. it's not only not sustainable,
it's an abomination before god that we steal from our fellow man in order to redistribute that which you have earned through your heart labors. this may not be as directed answer is you might want, and if i going to be a politician i will be more clarified, but the fact of the matter is that i don't believe darrell intended that. i believe he intended that we should limit the powers of the national government to gather money for those power designated within the constitution. am i correct, darrell? [applause] >> mr. chairman, point of inquiry? the great state of utah requests our chairman to make a motion with regard to scott bradley. >> accepted.
does the chairman of the state of utah wish to make a motion? >> i move that darrell castle and scott bradley be accepted as our vice presidential nominee. >> ok. seconded?e >> seconded. young, wyoming, seconded. too many hands up; had to pick somebody. movement's second that scott bradley be accepted as a vice presidential nominee of the constitutional party. all those in favor signify by saying aye. >> aye. >> opposed tno. motion carried. according to our standing rules, that's what is required. we have our team. [cheers and applause]
[captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] >> welcome to c-span's "newsmakers." the house of representatives is once again in budget battles and our guest this week is in the middle of that. congressman jim jordan, republican of ohio representing the fourth district in that state and he is the chairman of freedom caucus fiscal conservatives in the house of representatives. thanks for being with us. rep. jordan: good to be with you all. ms. swain: questioning him this week is erica werner of the associated press, the chief congressional reporter, and susan ferrechio comes back to our set, chief correspondent for the washington examiner. thanks for being here, both of you. >> great to be here. ms. werner: wonderful. mr. jordan, thank you. friday as you know is the budget deadline will be blowing through it. you will be missing the deadline for the first time in six years largely because of opposition from the freedom caucus. how do you justify and explain that, and does it matter? rep.or