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american values, on truman , or will we abandon what makes us great? we have a republican candidate who accidentally reminds us of what we stand for because of what he is against and what we are against because of what he stands for. he favors a nuclear arms race and abandoning our allies. he ignores the bill of rights and denies climate change. torture in -- and the random killing of families of those who oppose us. strange, quirky crush on dictators and those who wish us harm. the choice of a leader who is unfit and on table and on-call that, as opposed to hillary has the experience, intelligence, and character to
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leave. it is critically important this year for all of you to engage. too many of our american citizens feel left behind. they are drawn to anger and hostility and fear. it is our responsibility, we visione tools to pain a of greatness and strength constrained byes our base hope rather than our base fears. no one has that rather than our sullivan.r, jake the architect of the iran nuclear deal, and incredibly overqualified public servant who has dedicated his life to public service here the iran nuclear deal, classic application of factand soft power, of over fiction, and hope over fear. jake, my only advice to you is that you take harry truman's
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campaign advice and remember, as harry truman said, carry the battle to them, don't let them bring it to you. put them on the defensive and don't ever apologize for anything. jake sullivan! [applause] >> thank you for that incredibly kind introduction. to the truman community, it's remarkable to stand here in 2016 at the truman conference and see how the organization has grown. i remember when rachel klein feld and matt spence were just first thinking of it back in the early 2000's and to see how it's evolved over time, spread across the entire country, covering every sector of our national security community, making a difference in the national conversation and individually so many of you contributing in ways
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big and small to national security, it really is just an incredible honor to be able to be here tonight to speak to you. i have been part of the truman family, the truman community, basically since the start. i helped in little ways when rachel and matt and others were getting it off the ground and really, i keep using the term, "truman family" or "truman community" because it is a community of people who, while we may not see eye-to-eye on every issue, we share a few fundamental things, a passion for the idea that the united states of america has to lead in the world with strength and purpose, a view that we need strong and smart national security policy to be able to keep our country safe and advance our interests and values around the world, and perhaps
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most importantly, a shared intellectual commitment to finding the best, most durable ideas to the very hard national security questions we confront every day and they are hard. if you look around the world right now, there are difficult problem and there are wicked problems. and the thing that i've always found so compelling about this organization and about the people who make it up is that nobody turns their face away from it. nobody tries to take the easy way out. people are willing to actually grapple with and struggle with the difficulties of operating in the challenging international environment that we find and face in 2016. and especially to the people outside of the acela corridor. once upon a time i lived in a far-away place called minnesota and have spent the last several years basically up and down the east coast but to all of you carrying the message and ideas and vision of this community
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across the country, that is one of the most ingenuous parts of this organization. i want to say thank you and bless you for expanding the scope, circle and perspectives of the organization. one more just sort of broad reflection before i make some comments about the challenges ahead of us, is that truman -- the truman organization started during the bush administration as a vehicle for setting out a strong and smart progressive foreign policy alternative and that basically mission is an enduring vision, an evergreen vision but at this point where we stand today in the national political debate about foreign policy, it's an incomplete mission because donald trump is challenging some of the most basically precepts of american foreign policy, on allies, on nuclear weapons, on american values, on what makes our country great in the first place.
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so, whereas in 2002, it was a debate that sort of accepted a certain level of parameters for what the conversation would look like, today, i would just urge all of us to think about going back to basics. we have to be able to effectively articulate and aggressive defend first principles. the very idea of american leadership, the simple proposition that to be strong at home we also have to be strong abroad and vice versa. that is now our charge. i believe deeply that americans -- the american people are not isolationists but we have to acknowledge, all of us, that they are looking around the world right now and asking, what should we make of all of this? we need to take their questions and concerns seriously and we need credible answers. now, i'll come on to donald trump in a minute but i want to take a little while to reflect
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upon the moment we are in in our national security. everyone who works in foreign policy or national security at any time in government or who writes about it likes to pick the moment they're in to say it's the most complicated, the most challenging, the most difficult national security moment we've ever seen but in our case it's really actually true. there have been periods in our history, of course, where we've seen geopolitical competition. there are periods in our history where we've had the strategic threat of terrorism. today we're facing both of these, geopolitical competition from china and the threat of isis and terror networks and dealing with technology creating new threats, cyber and pandemics, loose nukes. the global turbulence we are facing now along with domestic issues at home, these are contributing to the pervasive sense that the american people
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are sitting there saying can someone explain to me what is happening in the world? and if you think about what they have seen over the past 10 or 15 years, you can understand a certain level of puzzlement. two costly, protracted wars with unsatisfying outcomes, a painful financial crisis, the rise of ambitious new powers like china and the return of old powers like putin's russia, the persistence, the malignance of terrorist threats flowing out of an islamic world struggling with
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collapsing state structures and stifled hopes and a healthy dose of domestic political dysfunction in washington so we have to be fair and say these have dented, for some people, a sense of confidence in our capacity to shape the world but they shouldn't dent our confidence. we should be confident. we should be believe we are capable of stepping up and doing our part to make our people strong and safe and to lead the world to a future of greater peace and prosperity because for all of our flaws, for all of our self inflicted wounds, the united states is still the only country that can step up and get the job done. secretary clinton gave a speech in san diego a couple of weeks ago that i'm sure many of you saw. it was a satisfying opportunity to really lay out the choice in this election and in that speech she consciously used the term "american exceptionalism" because she believes we are exceptional and we have exceptional capacities to go about building that better future for our people and for all people. the question then is, ok, those are some nice big words but
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what's the agenda? what are we actually going to do? how do we actually advance america's foreign policy and national security around the world? this is what i want to spend a little bit of time talking about today and pardon me if at various points in this i get a little bit wonky. i need a break from the campaign trail and i see a few fellow wonk travelers here so i'm going to talk seriously about what i think the basic project of american foreign policy has to look like. at its core i believe that the project of american foreign policy is to update the global order to reflect current realities in the world while at the same time fundamentally continuing to protect our interests and values. we have to do both at once.
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we have to acknowledge the changing realities in the world, the new voices, the new forces, the new trends. but we also have to hold on to the basically precepts and proposition that have existed since after the second world war. that is no easy task, to at once be updating the order according to new realities and at the same time making sure that the order that emerges at the end of that effort continues to reflect, protect and respect our core interests and core values but i think that is in a nutshell what stands before us as the challenge and the opportunity of american foreign policy. and i believe that the next decade offers a crucial opportunity for getting this right. for putting that basic organizing principle into practice because if we do not act decisively in the period ahead, if we let things drift, then events will shape us rather
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than the other way around. so let's get them right and here, i think, it all comes down to three basic steps -- reinforce, rebalance, reshape. reinforce the foundations of american power and prestige. that means reinforcing our economic foundation and secretary clinton has talked a lot about the investments we need to make in infrastructure and education and innovation in order to effectively do that. reinforce our political foundation. i'll come back to this at the end, state of our politics today requires quite a bit of -- reinforcement might be a nice word. total fixing up is another way to put it. reinforce the foundation of our values. many of you know better than i do that the reservoirs of american credibility and the degree to which young people in the rest of the world look to the united states and see a moral beacon have been depleted over time. that's partly because an entire
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generation of people around the world have grown up seeing as emblems of american foreign policy things like guantanamo and abu ghraib and have not learned about all of the things that the united states did for decades in the cold war to stand up for freedom and opportunity. so we have work to do around the world to recommit ourselves and to spread the message of how the united states does stand for a set of core, universal values and principles, does want to fight for women's rights and internet freedom and religious liberty and democracy and all of the things that have laid at the core of a progressive foreign policy agenda and so many of you work on every day and then of course we need to reinforce the foundation of our alliances. almost refer where you -- everywhere you look on the geopolitical compass, our oldest and most important allies in europe are hard pressed.
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now we have brexit from theour t allies in europe are hard-pressed. brexit from the west. we have a massive migration from more from the east, and hillary clinton believes passionately and powerfully, as do i, that reinforcing the transatlantic partnership, reinforcing the special relationship we have with united kingdom, are absolutely crucial in the days ahead. this is a fundamental difference of opinion between her and donald trump, who basically things we should walk away from our alliances, give up on our national balance sheet. hillary clinton could not see it more different. strengthening the alliances across the pacific, with japan, south korea, australia, the crucial to, it is so be able to project the kind of leadership we need to do to keep our people safe and prosperous
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here at home. rebalance. a lot of you guys have term -- heard the term of rebalance, and i want to take a second to talk about that. i basically believe we need three different kinds of s, with our greatest growth and opportunity and with the single most consequential geopolitical event in our time, the rise of china, is unfolding before our eyes. member going with secretary clinton to china in 2011 or 2012 and meeting with the state counselor, who had become familiar with the term rebalance, which was one of the terms of the obama administration, and he said, i do like the term rebalance. i think you might want to consider rebalancing out rather than rebalance in. of course, we have a different concept with what we want to accomplish. the united states has to be a
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resident tower in asia. we have to be fully deployed and engaged, and i know many of you work on this set of issues. the second is a rebalance of a different kind in the middle east and i want to explain what i mean. as we contend with the threat of isis and its safe haven across the iraq-syria border, as we work to enforce the iran nuclear deal, something that i obviously care deep about, we also have to look at the bigger context. in addition to a vicious and perverted ideology that is fueling a lot of the extremist networks and movements in the region, in addition to the fraying and collapse of state structures and institutions, we concede that the proxy conflict between iran and the sunni states of the region is helping to fuel the instability in the region and from my perspective, , a rebalance is needed in order to set the table for a more effective american strategy in the middle east and it goes like this.
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we need to be raising the costs on iran for its destabilizing behavior and we need to be raising the confidence of our sunni partners that the united states is going to be there and so -- and in so doing, in raising their confidence, begin to try and draw down some of their more dangerous hedging behavior. so raise the costs on iran, raise the confidence of our sunni partners and set the table for a more effective enforcement of both the iran nuclear deal and our capacity to fight isis. this is something that has to be played out with something more than simple terms like that. it's something i would love to engage with many of you as we go forward because if there's one thing we all know, it's that this set of challenges from nigeria in west africa all the way across to south asia, across a broad arc of instability, is something that is such a complicated and difficult set of questions that we need to
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grapple with and we certainly haven't gotten all the answers right today and it's going to take as many good minds as we can possibly muster working with our partners in the region and around the world to try to do better as we go forward. and then finally, a third kind of rebalance. the third kind of rebalance from my perspective is thinking about rebalancing our own tools and capabilities. you see, for those of you who've spent time in government, our adversaries are getting faster, more adaptable and using increasingly asymmetric means to advance their objectives, many of which are in direct conflict with ours. propaganda. the use of corruption as a national security tool to insidiously influence neighbors and destabilize them. the use of cyber tools and avoiding attribution. we saw the democratic national committee hacked a couple of weeks ago and we could ask
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ourselves who the progenitor of that particular asymmetric act was. as we watch our adversaries, whether they are state or non-state actors, get more effective, more nimble, more adaptable and frankly, just faster. we have to confess that we haven't been able to fully keep up with the speed and the flexibility that is required to deal with these asymmetric threats and so i believe we need a rebalance of capabilities where we are really lifting up our ability to compete and win in the cyber domain, our ability to compete and win against corruption, our ability to push back against and break down the vertically integrated propaganda and horizontally integrated propaganda from state and non-state actors around the world.
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this is another big piece of business that goes beyond managing geopolitical relationships or dealing with a terror group. this goes to understanding what the evolving threats are in the world and being able to take after them in a smart, sound, and ultimately sustainable way. finally, reshape. i won't spend a lot of time on this but i think you can go down the list of the major sets of rules governing behavior in our world today -- whether cyber or nuclear proliferation or trade and investment or climate, and see that the world's bargaining tables, the world's decision making forums are messy, they're complicated, they're difficult but there is no constitute for the united states stepping up and saying we are going to refurbish, we are going to more effectively shaped rules of the road that govern each of these major areas of conduct.
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just tell a quick story that i've told some of you. in december of 2009, i was with secretary clinton in copenhagen for the global climate change conference, one of the conference that is led to the paris deal in 2015. and there were 40 heads of state gathered in a small windowless room on the second floor of a shopping center in copenhagen. you had prime minister singh of india, president zuma of south africa, president wen of china , president sarkozy, etc. and , secretary clinton was representing president obama. they were going back and forth and making very little progress and at about 3:00 a.m. it broke up and everybody came downstairs into a big atrium. and the problem was there was a blizzard outside and they could only bring out one motorcade at a time, so you had 40 world
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leaders snaking through this atrium in what could only be described as the world's weirdest taxicab line, and like 29 deep towards the back of the pack is nicolas sarkozy and after about 15 minutes of one motorcade after another going out, he steps out, and he looks up in the ceiling and shouts out in english, "i want to die!" [laughter] mr. sullivan: and everyone starts applauding. [laughter] mr. sullivan and the question is : why am i telling this story? this is it. this is what we are dealing with. gone are the days where small group of powers goes into a room, people shake hands, you write a full agreement, top to bottom, you send it out, everybody signs on. we have ushered in an era where the rowdiness of negotiating tables, the difficulties of
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getting to to credible results, is so immense, even the paris deal represents some strange amalgam of binding and non-binding, formal and non-formal because that's what the shape of the rules of future governance will look like. now on the campaign trail, allobal governance -- this sounds kind of highfalutin, why should this matter? but at the end of the day when you're talking about the w.t.o. or rules to govern the cyber domain and there's a major attack in the united states and we need to figure out how to attribute, how do we respond, how do we deter, it becomes real for people very quickly. just to to take an example on the w.t.o., we are 15 years beyond the accession of china to the w.t.o. and a lot of the basic practices that threaten a fair international trading system today aren't covered by the w.t.o., whether it's currency manipulation or state owned enterprises or barriers
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behind borders that are hard to pin down. we've got to do something about those things but there's going to be a lot of really weird taxicab lines and window less rooms in the middle of the night with a lot of voices and a lot of competing perspectives and interests in there and it's going to take strong and principled american leadership to pull it all together so reshaping the rules of the road will have to be a fundamental project of american foreign policy, and it is not just for the classroom, not just for international relations scholars. this will matter fundamentally in the lives of everyday americans and we have got to get it right. we have got to be pursuing an affirmative, aggressive agenda on this. so then the question comes, what do we have to watch out for? what are the big alligators that are swimming close to the boat that can throw us off of pursuing this affirmative agenda
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that i've just laid out? well first, there is the , challenge of disruptive forces. disruptive forces, including aggressive actions like russia invading ukraine, disruptive forces like the potential for another global finance crisis. i don't believe that's what produce, butng to it's clear from the economic uncertainty generated in the last 24 hours, that decisions taken in countries far away with -- can end up having an impact on american family members' pocketbooks at home and we have to pay due attention to that going forward. many of the tools that we had at our disposal to respond to the last financial crisis have been -- have already been deployed and our tool kit doesn't have quite as many tools in it for the next one that comes around and then, of course, the possibility of major terrorist events. now, just say one more word about russia in terms of the
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potential for disruption to this effort that i'm talking about. it's easy to dismiss russia for some of us as a declining power with a one-dimensional economy, shrinking population but declining powers can be just as disruptive as rising powers and we cannot afford to underestimate that is likely to be a long-term challenge from a russia that is at once aggrieved, aggressive and insecure. now, secretary clinton has talked about the bizarre fascination that donald trump seems to have with strong men around the world, starting with vladimir putin. i don't think he gets this. i don't think he fundamentally understands what russia represents or on the flipside of the coin, what the affirmative foreign policy project of the united states is that russia could end up being a disruptor to and i think that is one of the things that we are going to have to see play out in the
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foreign policy debate over the next few months. another major impediment to getting through this affirmative agenda i've laid out, what i call the tyranny of the in-box. for all of you who have worked in government, you realize quickly that laying out a nice affirmative strategy rarely meets first contact with the morning news headlines and whatever's happening in the world and that there is a little bit of a function of the 8-year-old soccer game where everybody runs to the ball of the thing that's happening this week. and i think a big part of what the next administration has to be thinking about is how do you set up mission oriented teams to escape and overcome the tyranny of the inbox and that's something i have given a lot of thought to, how do we make sure we're staying on the front foot, we deal with crises when they arrive but we don't take our eye off the long game about the kind of country and world we're trying to create.
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and then finally, the third impediment is the impediment of politics in national security. a year or two ago when i talked about politics and national security, i talked about the more ordinary -- and sad to say it's become ordinary -- dysfunction between democrats and republicans on national security issues, things like the letter that tom cotton sent to the ayatollahs of iran saying don't bother dealing with this guy by the name of barack obama. pretty unusual stuff but it turns out that was j.v. compared to the kinds of things that donald trump is bringing forward with his propositions about national security. this is not a typical democrat versus republican year. this is something else entirely. this is hillary clinton, secretary of state, somebody with the strength and experience
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and leadership to be commander-in-chief, against somebody who is truly temperamentally unfit and unqualified to lead this country, someone who should not have their finger on the nuclear button. and i think today in scotland, donald trump proved that once again in spades. every time there is a significant national or global event, he proves once again that basic proposition that he's temperamentally unfit for the job and my observation based on what he did today -- for those of you who haven't seen his press conference, i would recommend taking a look at it. we are seeing an emerging donald trump playbook in reaction to a crisis. the first step is, rather than respond with any sense of strength or leadership, he engages in what can only be called pathological self congratulation. rather than think about how he
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can lead or reassure or talk about what we're going to do, he just literally pats himself on the back. we saw that in orlando. we saw that in scotland today. second, rather than consult with people who might actually know something about the particular event, he consults only with himself. some of you have heard what he said about isis, that he doesn't need to consult with anyone on isis because he has a quote, very good brain, and that he, quote, knows more about isis than the generals do, believe me. today, from the donald trump playbook, he got a question at his press conference, had he spoken to his advisers, foreign policy or economic advisers about brexit. he said, no, because, quote, there wasn't anything to talk about. third, rather than get the facts, he just asserts falsehoods, makes things up, has basic factual errors. today he tweeted that scotland was, quote, going wild over the vote. even though scotland voted
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overwhelmingly against leaving the european union. fourth, rather than talk or think about what's good for americans, he talks and thinks about only what's good for himself and then he always says something that shows he doesn't have a clue what it means to be commander-in-chief. in this case, in his press conference today, he said that running a golf course is a lot like running a country. [laughter] mr. sullivan: look, i suppose in retrospect all of this was utterly predictable. but i have to say that it never ceases to be astonishing and it should not ever cease to be astonishing. one of the things that concerns me is that as time goes on, people are going to treat this bizarre and dangerous behavior as normal, or to talk about it purely through the political
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lens, was that a smart move or not a smart move, and i really urge all of you and everybody out there who cares deeply about this country to think about what it would mean to have donald trump in the oval office in the situation room making decisions of life and death. many people in the truman community are either veterans or are active members of the u.s. military or our reserves. you guys know so much better than i do what it actually takes at the end of the day to protect this country and keep us safe of -- and the sad fact is that donald trump has consistently displayed a sort of contempt for what it actually takes to support our military, to support our veterans and to support the things that makes america the greatest country in the world. and so in particular to the members of the truman community,
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who have relationships with war or are part of the broader veterans and military community, i would just ask all of you to join us in working to show the people out there who are standing on the front lines and defending our country that we're behind them, secretary clinton has spent a career supporting veterans and military families and active duty service members and that we can collectively stop donald trump and have to do so because we believe -- i believe that he represents a real danger. there is a bizarreness to it. there are things that make you actually want to chuckle but at the end of the day this really isn't a laughing matter because the stakes are just so high. so, let me close by saying that it's not enough to just scoff at or reject this person.
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all of us can get trapped. i can get trapped into saying, can you believe he said that? can you believe he said that? that is neither going to win this election nor is it going to advance an effective foreign policy agenda for this country. we've got to do more and better than that. we need an affirmative vision of the kind i laid out today. i have enough humility to say that's a start, that's the first draft, the thoughts that i have. but together we have to come up with a sound, smart, sustainable strategy for advancing our interests and values in the world and keeping our people safe and above all, we have to maintain a basic sense of humility. if you just think about the past few years, the arab spring, the speed and ferocity with which isis spread, brexit. what's next? we cannot accurately predict the trends or events that will unfold or how they're going to unfold and we have to understand that we don't have all the answers, that we need to be
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reaching out broadly in the democratic community but beyond, independents and republicans, to try to restitch a basically bipartisan fabric that returns to the first principles i talked about at the outset of my remarks. still though, let's not confuse being humble with hanging back. we have to be out there and be engaged. the world is looking to us and the constant to all of this has to be strong and sustained american leadership. and i would just leave you with this thought. donald trump's slogan is make america great again but it's apparent every day that he doesn't actually have the first clue about what it takes, what made america great in the first place. and there is a kind of pattern, over 30 years of relentless down talking of this country, calling our military a disaster, saying just the other day, bizarrely, america's not going to make it. he's wrong. and hillary clinton believes
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deeply that the united states has the capacity to be the greatest force for good the world has ever known and at our best days, we are. and she also believes that we have all the tools we need to do able to do that. our military is the strongest in the history of the world. our economy is on the rebound. still, the biggest, most resilient and most innovative in the world even as too many families are struggling. energy is a massive advantage, with our capacity to become the clean energy super power of the world. geography gives us two liquid assets, the pacific and atlantic oceans that help insulate us to some extent from the kinds of security threats that afflict so many other states. demography is an enormous strength. compared to other major nations in the world today, our population is younger and more mobile and if we get immigration reform right, we can help ensure that advantage for generations.
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we have an unrivaled capacity to build coalitions, to spread values with more allies and potential partners than anyone else out there and greater scope for diplomatic problem solving , so i'm confident that our best days are ahead of us and i will just say that for all of you who have had the opportunity to travel with a cabinet member or president or vice president, and to see the blue and white planes land with united states of america emblazoned on the side -- i did that for four years with secretary clinton, two years with vice president bryden, traveled well more than a million miles to more than 115 countries around the world and i never got tired of seeing that plane because i knew what it could represent. and i think that that, at the end of the day, is what this election's about but the world doesn't stop on november 8. the work only really begins on november 9 for us to take this all forward and i'm just looking forward to working with all of you in that effort over the next few months to think about what
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we can do together to win this election, but then going forward, to win a better, smarter, sounder strategy for the united states in the years ahead that carries forward that basic project of american foreign policy i talked about today. so thank you, guys. let's all go out and do this together and truly, deeply let's make the truman community proud. let's make this country proud and, you know what? let's just win this thing. thank you. [applause] driscoll: jake, before you escape, before we allow you to escape and return to the endless work that you've been taking on, thank you for that masterful , masterful discussion. we have a few things to offer
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you, the very least important of which is a framed copy of the inaugural program from harry truman's inauguration but much more importantly -- yeah. [laughter] driscoll: that's for your, i'm sure, cavernous office in brooklyn. but much more importantly, you spoke of the truman family. that is a family brought together by commitment to service, commitment to work. above all, we're brought together by an unshakeable faith in the potential of america to be a force for good in the world and a belief that the greatness of this country must be re-earned every day and in every generation. we know that you spoke of first principles. we know that the first principles that bring not only define america's role in the world and who we are but define this family are at stake this
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year, and so, we are proud, all of us, that the fight is being led by one of our own, by you. but you have our iron clad commitment that this community will fight with all of our strength and without fear for what defines us as a family. thanks. [applause] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org]
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hillary clinton to speak to the u.s. conference of mayors. they hold their annual meeting there. also scheduled to speak this afternoon, orlando mayor buddy as we get theon signal from minneapolis, we will have to live coverage for you on c-span. democratic and republican party platforms were the focus of two of the sunday news shows. bernietic candidate sanders talked about the changes he wants to see on the platform, and we would hear from him in a minute, but we will start with "this week with george stephanopoulos," where senate majority leader mitch mcconnell was asked if there would be the funding of presumptive nominee donald trump. mr. mcconnell: if you look at the platform that will be written at our convention, we are not changing the basic. our nominee may not agree with every single one of those, but the republican party will remain
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america's conservative party. george: so are you saying, the ban of muslim immigration into the platform, you are not going to write that in? in are not going to write mass deportation? and he talks about social security and medicare. will you maintain the traditional republican policy? be acconnell: it will traditional platform, not all that much different than the one we had four years ago. george: so it will not be mr. latform?p mcconnell: it will be the republican platform, pretty much similar to the one we had before. i think you are right, jake. we want some very important victory in our effort to try to make it clear to the american the democratic party
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stands with the middle class comes stands with working families, and is prepared to take on wall street and the big money interests, but we lost some very important fights. we are going to take that fight to orlando, where the entire andittee meet in two weeks, we will certainly take a to the floor of the democratic convention, and that is what did discussion in st. louis not include, as you indicated, the need to deal in a very strong way with the crisis of climate change. we need a tax on carbon. we need to end fracking. we need to be very, very clear that the minimum wage must be raised to $15 an hour. in my view, we need a medicare single-payer program, so we have made some good games, and i want to thank all of the people who participated in the process. we have more to do. we areer: then again, waiting for the arrival of hillary clinton at the annual
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conference of mayors. they are having their conference in minneapolis. when she gets there, we will have it live on c-span. until then, a conversation about the british exit of the european union and what that will mean for world financial markets. >> the washington post talks about the platform that the democrats will vote on in the july convention in philadelphia. ,"is morning in "the post heavily influenced by senator sanders. " article, about a bruising primary season that technically has not moved the democratic party to the left on issues, the issues highlighted, saying that the draft approved after several weeks of hearings will have democrats take steps towards the federal records of some large wall street banks.
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it advocates more of the glass-steagall law, and it advocates a $15 an hour wage but does not go as far as senator sanders wanted in making it explicit. host: it goes on record opposing the death penalty which candidate clinton has said she supports in some instances. that's in the "washington post" this morning. a recent piece taking a look at the hill talks about -- and this is the headline. "bernie fights for relevance." it was on friday that the pollster and clinton loyalist tweeted an excerpt of remarks that senator clinton made behind president obama after he defeated her in the 2008 primary. this is what doing everything to defeat trump looks like, guerin rote --
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host: again for the question this morning in our first 45 minutes, went to get from you about the role that senator sanders should play in the remainder of campaign 2016. still formally in the race expressed he probably will not become a candidate and he will probably vote for former secretary of state clinton. but we want to get from you, senator sanders what his role should be. call us at 202-748-8000. for those of you who still support senator sanders. and 202-748-8001 for all others. senator sanders did talk about a wide range of issues concerning campaign 2016. you can see that interview two times tonight at 6:35 this
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evening and at 9:35 this evening. it was in the course of the interview that senator sanders spoke about the campaign and went he first expressed doubts about him becoming president. bernie sanders: i'm not going to be determining the scope of the convention. as you know a couple of weeks ago, i had a meeting with secretary clinton. >> how did that go? bernie sanders: it was very good. i have known secretary clinton for 25 years. we serve in the senate together. where we are right now is what we are trying to do, which is no secret to anybody is, a, to create the most progressive platform that we possibly can reflecting the needs of working families and students and the environment and health care and so forth. and secondly, we're trying to do nothing less than to transform the democratic money.
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host: that interview if you want to see, the total interview, you can see it twice this evening on c-span, look for it at 6:this evening. and catch it again at 9:30. what role should senator sanders play in campaign 2016? we'll start with joe from jacksonville, florida, a supporter of senator sanders. joe, good morning. what do you think the role should be? caller: good morning, pedro. only 400 delegates voted for hillary clinton and i know people support hillary clinton just the same. he needs to stay and hopefully, it happens like obama. bernie sanders has baggage between five and 10 pounds. hillary clinton, she has a baggage of a jumbo jet.
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and donald trump has a baggage of the astrodome of houston, texas. but he needs to stay out of the way. if hillary clinton is my second choice. i vote for her, but she has a lot of baggage, more than bernie. host: from allen, in atlanta, georgia, you're up next, a bernie sanders supporter. what do you think the role should be? caller: thank you, pedro, i will be very specific. number one, the process does not end until the delegates have voted. so he should continue until the delegates have voted. number two, those who support bernie sanders are supporting a movement and not just a political campaign. and the substance of the campaign has got to be a major art of the platform.
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i'm very disturbed by the fact that the super delegate issue including -- and i say this as an african-american, including the position that the congressional black congress has taken on the issue of the over abundance of super delegates influence in the campaign process. so bernie needs to stay. host: do you think there are some chance that he could still become the candidate or if you resolve yourself that he's not going to become the candidate? caller: well, i'm a pragmatist. i will have to be a pragmatist as an educator to opportunities that that the likelihood of it happening is slim to little. i have resolved myself and my emotions on that fragile, but i have not resolve myself to whether i could vote for secretary clinton. that, i have not reached that
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point yet. host: connecticut up next and here is robert. robert, good morning, also identifies himself as a bernie sanders supporter. robert, go ahead. caller: yes, i don't think bernie should get out. a lot can happen between now and november. but bernie, he has the right message. and ones that are supporting his opponent all get the same money from the same place as she's getting it from, wall street. is taking over again and it's time for a change and i do not want bernie to get out and i will not support hillary clinton. thank you. host: that's robert from connecticut.
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bernie sanders is still a presidential candidate and expressed he will vote for hillary clinton and expressed tchoits will become the nominee. with all that in mind, what role do you think he should play? 202-748-8000 for those of you who support senator sanders. or all others, 202-748-8001. zuckerman for u.s. news and world report talked about how there is potential discourse might be happening amongst democrats. he writes one might say was a bridge too far. he was proposing to dismantle our financial structure. he games the financial world which he thinks is a wicked wall street for causing the decline f an entire economy --
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host: again, divided party is the piece of "u.s. news" by morty zuckerman. johnny, from albany, georgia, a line for others. hello. caller: hello. i don't think senators should have a role in the democratic process. i mean, in the -- because he is not a democrat. refuse to raise money for the democratic party. he refuse to change as a democrat. all he wanted is a free ride and what he wanted is to raise his retirement check and as soon as he could get four years done and get a bigger retirement check,
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that's all he was after. bernie not fooling anyone. and anybody who say they're supporting bernie not fooling anyone. they know what bernie wants. thank you. host: las vegas, nevada. leslie up next. good morning. you're on. caller: hi. i'm not going to support hillary. it's just ridiculous. it's just too much against her. i would love to see a woman but the right type of woman in the white house someday, perhaps. and i think that my vote would go to trump right now. i'll try the thank you guy rather than have hillary in there. thank you. host: talk about the role that senator sanders should play from here on out through election day. caller: well, he seems to want to promote his agenda, which, you know, he has his ideas which are pretty good, you know, the free colleges and this and that. i doubt seriously whether it will make any impact on that group. host: why do you say that? caller: i just don't think so.
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i don't think there's the willingness for them to really change anything that much. host: when you say that group, do you mean democrats overall? caller: yes. host: even with his campaign and his influence, he can't make widespread changes within the party? caller: no, because there's too much corruption. and the people just too paid up by all these corporations. and that's who runs the politicians, mostly. host: on our line for others, carol from ohio. go ahead. you're on. caller: yes. i had to completely disagree with that lady that just called. i'll make my comment in a minute. but for someone that wanted -- went to the far left socialist to be the president, now she's going to go for far, far right. idiot trump. anyway, i don't think he should have a whole lot of role. i mean, he lost the election. and i think -- i'm like that
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first caller that called on the others line. i never considered him a democrat because i watched him during -- in the senate and he was always a very angry old man that just wanted everything. no way in this world that we're going to get everything. so his policies was too far left for me. i'm a moderate democrat. and i will be voting through hillary. host: hillary clinton's campaign is a subject in "the washington post" today, talks about her belt to win the rust states saying donald trump is a wakening raging democrats. white who is crossed over for ronald reagan in the 1990's. -- 1980's. --
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host: of the three states, pennsylvania appears most competitive according to a poll last week showed a virtual tie. host: the role that senator sanders should play in 2016. edinson, new jersey, on the line for all others. anthony, good morning. caller: good morning. i think it's time for him to just get out of the way, mr. sanders. he's like a nowhere man. he came from nowhere. he has nothing in his resume as far as accomplishment and he's on his way to nowhere. and besides that, he's leading younger generations. our children, these millennials
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that are growing up are being totally misled. they're turning into total mushheads. they say that they want all kinds of education. what? are we turning into socialists and communists? you're lying to our children, promising them free college and all these things. what's the sense to empower them to be successful and in a capitalist nation where they have the greatest chance and opportunities. all our generations are soldiers that died to fight
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greg mrs. clinton should define this role. sanders,n is that mr. there is a solid percentage of the democratic vote. unity,aking for party and as the victor in this election, she should embrace it. some types and offer of position. integrate them into the platform.
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host: are you talking about the platform? going to leave that alone. i think she will marginalize it and move forward. what i would like to see is something practical about this, because he has a lot of clout, thatt is foolish to think she can manage this on her own without, what, 40% of the democratic vote? : do you think you will see him speak at the convention in july? r: ultimately, i would like to see them embrace, if nothing else works, in terms of inclusiveness, and i think it is important for democratic party unity, and i will vote for mrs. clinton with my eyes open, and
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willingly. , andody has got to give you got my drift? host: got you. audrey, macon, georgia. caller: bernie sanders is not a democrat. he is telling kids they are going to get free college, unless they turn to 62 and can go to college. i did. i went after i turned 62, but he and donald trump, donald trump is filled with hate and racism, bitterness. they should go off in the sunset. i've read an article that bernie was diagnosed with early dementia. he needs to go home and sit down, and for those who say about hillary supporters and getting money from wall street, i have never gotten a single dime from wall street. never got a welfare check. never got a food stamp, so i am
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supporting hillary, but i did not get anything from wall street, and to take money from people who do not have money, i would rather she get it from wall street. host: that is audrey from georgia. donny tweeting -- it is best that he get out. and michael said, bernie sanders should help push for the issues. has aks like the platform fray around the edges. and a tweet on our facebook page again, aok.com/c-span, long-range interview with bernie sanders to lace last week on c-span, and you can watch it twice a day. you can see it at 6:30 this evening and also at 9:30, senator sanders talking about to campaign, his role, become the nominee, and other topics in there, as well. again, look for it on our webpage. whenp.m. and 9:30 pm is you can watch it.
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and from california, a senator sanders supporter. hello there. caller: like that woman from georgia, they will continue to exploit it. i have been a democrat most of my life. however, i have been supporting bernie sanders, because i think he has a progressive platform. , and my parents who have passed on would remember, when college was very inexpensive, and it was only in the last few years that it skyrocketed. many support bernie because they know he is telling the truth, and if the woman at once to get
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money from wall street, she is as corrupt, but wall street is not going to give her any money because she does not count, as far as they are concerned. the black caucus is corrupt. they get money from wall street, and the was a very good article from "the new york times" about that. this is why i am supporting him. i would have voted independent. i supported barack obama, and i supported hillary clinton's husband, but one of bill clinton was ms. cabinet members, robert rice, a top economist is supporting bernie, because he knows what this country is headed toward, and people should listen to dick van dyke. he has been around a long time. he has been around longer than most. a new deal democrat. if we do not do something about
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this division of wealth, the stairstep to the top is getting more and more narrow every day. : ok, let's hear from petersburg, virginia. : hello, c-span and the world. i think bernie should be spending his time right now supporting clinton. all of these bernie supporters, a lot of you have never been active in politics and do not know how the delicate system because they were working on getting delegates many, many years ago. she has liaisons. doing.w what she was she knew the rules of the game and how the game worked, and you have got sanders, who was not concerned about the delegates. he is like a kid when you take .he kid to the shoe store
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i think the supporters need to get behind mrs. clinton, because i spent a lot of time on social , and there are people to vote for truck. trump: host:for huntington beach, california. : i think bernie sanders should stay in the race, because i think there is a chance that hillary clinton will be indicted over her private server, where she did not know how to keep it secure. she is saying that donald trump would be dangerous with his finger on the trigger with the codes. : you are saying bernie
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sanders -- : i think if she got indicted, he would win in the election. when going against donald trump. : hillary clinton will be giving a speech before a mayors conference in indianapolis, and you can hear that speech live this afternoon, and look for more information on c-span.org. on the hill newspaper, you will remember last week, democrats sat down and did 24 hours or so talking about gun control issues. a follow-up is planned, according to the hill newspaper, a day of action, as it is being described, democrats saying it is june 29. suggested tactic? almost anything. whether it is a press conference
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or roundtable or town hall, we encourage you to keep up the fight against gun violence, the lawmakers wrote. law includes survivors and enforcement. they can be excellent partners to help carry our message even further. there was a sit in, unprecedented, a direct response to the refusal of republican leaders to look at tougher gun laws in wake of the june 12 massacre at the a nightclub in orlando, where there were 49 killed, three injured by a single gunman. some issues, including expanding background checks on prospective buyers, and another day of action being suggested to legislature. until july 5.t election day activities still continue, and came 2016 -- campaign 2016 is what we are talking about, the role of bernie sanders and world he
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should play from now on to election day. some are saying that he would not become the nominee, but we are looking to you to see what his role might be between now and election day. off of twitter, one man saying this morning that he should be he adds thend phrase, stay in, bernie. bernie twitter, all wanted to do is make his mark on history, a lump in congress with no accomplishments. in california on our line for all others, josh, go ahead. caller: thank you for having me. bernie is just what that last caller said. he is definitely not a democrat.
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he supports the gun lobbies. he has not been vetted. if bernie was vetted, i guarantee you the polls would not be what they are right now because of the fact that bernie by the trying to get -- same token, he is trying to get a good retirement. from the taxpayers, $40,000 per day. per day. have not donated anything to the and other party candidates and things like those, so bernie is in for , and there are people calling it in, especially from , but you hade bernielook out, because
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is for bernie. thank you much. host: bernie from florida, go ahead. simple memes a very that i wanted to suggest. you guys mentioned to counteract ng was to take america back, and to counter that would be to take america forward, because there is a different thing. take america forward is complex. there is a real dichotomy between forward and back. that is a mindset. we are the most social creatures on the planet. if you look into this guy at stanford, he actually shows that former two different types of societies. there is a forward-looking and a backward looking. a forward-looking has an expectation of abundance, and the backward looking is preparing for scarcity. on thethe most social
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planet, even more than baboons. : so with all of that, with the role of sen. sanders: what role should he have now? host: two to indicate deep concepts, such as what i was just me indicating, and bring it down to the local level. i work on a diversity issue in florida, and we have an issue, which you guys were just talking about. mr. sanders, on the democratic platform, could push -- we would like to push this around the meets thelorida, federal thing and applied directly for approval to the beds f --e feds, and not have the mid-level florida people insert their scarcity negative outlook so we can protect our children, because that is really what is at stake here when we talk about taking america forward. host: got me.
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up next, a bernie would like to see bernie keep doing what he is doing. trump is the one that alter have the d. and you get through the bs listen to hillary, hillary as more of a war hawk. hillary uses me, my, mine. you did not hear that out of bernie. , thisds us, all of us nation. it's not my ideas are the best. like themebody
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gentleman before about a visionary. you have to look forward. you have to dream big. we don't need a grandma a running the nation that does not want to do anything but baked cookies. towant somebody who wants bake the pies, do the roasted, do the potatoes, and go out and dig in the garden. who isant somebody that isto do all of it, my -- i hope bernie stays in there. i believe he is the only true democrat running. have a good day. perhaps you are just waking up. the role that senator sanders should play between now and election day.
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a story in the washington post takes a look at the flooding in the state of west virginia, the president approving federal aid -- and to theill take you live conference of mayors. live coverage now on c-span. buddy dyer has shown strength, leadership, and the compassion. this will be a long and painful process, but the mayor knows that we stand with him and his city as they mourn, as they heal , and as they grow even stronger. please welcome our friend orlando mayor buddy dyer. [applause]
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[captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] thank you so much. that means a lot. 12,weeks ago today on june that was the most difficult day in the history of the city of today i could not be more proud of our community and how it responded. by the not been defined hate filled ask of a radical killer, but rather by our collective response of love, compassion, and unity.
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we are orlando united. on behalf of everybody in , iando, residents, families want to say thank you to all of you. thank you to all of my fellow mayors. thank you to the residence of each of your cities. everyone knows that orlando is the place where america goes to ite fun, but when we needed most, your cities came to orlando's aid. you had our back. these have unequivocally been the worst two weeks in orlando's history, and i can't tell you how much it meant to us to feel afterove and your support this unimaginable tragedy, and i can't tell you how much it meant to see your landmarks, bridges, and buildings lit up in the colors of the rainbow to let as know that we weren't alone in orlando. i cannotonal level, thank you enough for the
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resources you sent, the vigils that you lead, the phone calls and text messages and e-mails made to offerou either advise, help, or just to say that your thoughts and prayers are with us. , and iehalf of everyone will return some of those calls at some point, on behalf of everyone that calls orlando home , please allow me to thank you. [applause] mayor dyer: i struggled with whether or not to leave orlando and come to the conference. it has been exactly two weeks since an act of violence terrorized and crippled our city, and i know that we will eventually get through this, but every day brings unexpected challenges, and every day i talked to victims, families,
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residents who remain in a state of shock, so it is still so hard for us to comprehend how and why this could possibly happen in orlando, but i am here with you after what happened in orlando because it is clear to me that we live in a new world, a world in which any one of our cities this kindhe site of of intentional mass casualty event, a world in which each one of our cities needs to be better prepared to respond to this type of incident, and i am not talking about a hurricane or tornado, i am talking about an intentional act of violence that takes the lives of residents and wreaks havoc on our city, so that is the reason i feel it is important to talk to you today. it is important that we as mayors begin a larger discourse about how we prepare for and respond to these types of events. i want to stay away from
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politics and heated topics that are discussed on the national news. there are a lot of politics in this country that might go towards preventing these sorts attacks, guns, terrorism, big, difficult issues, and overcoming those challenges will take a willingness to forge partnerships and a willingness to stub vilifying other americans who don't agree with you, something that our country does not seem to be able to do very well lately. others take the lead on that conversation, but what i want to focus on our mayors and our responsibilities. i want to talk about what we can do to be ready and what we can do to foster the kinds of communities that help prevent incidents and that are prepared to respond to them. respondedat orlando to this tragedy probably has not been perfect, but i am
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extraordinarily proud of the way we did respond, and i am proud of the way our residents and city staff -- our city staff stepped up under extraordinary circumstances. proud ofver been more our police officers, firefighters, first responders, the doctors who treated the victims that night, and then our city employees. i believe that there are lessons to be learned from orlando, just we sought counsel from responders in boston and san .ernardino, in charleston i talked to mayor riley on his way out today. our long-term vision is to work mayors, and fellow their staffs to put together a comprehensive formal examination of best practices, and that examination will be shared with the u.s. conference of mayors for all of our cities.
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here is obviously knows sing as an all-purpose emergency manual, but by showing what we have learned, we can help all of our cities be better prepared, so that is our long-term goal. today, i want to offer a few basic insights into how our city team manage the incident with the hope that it serves as a first step towards larger preparation, so what i want to do right now is take you back to the night of june 12. i am asleep. it is about 3:00 a.m. in the morning and i get a phone call. i get the phone call that everyone of you dreads getting, and it is my deputy chief. he says, mayor, i need to inform you that there is an active shooter in the pulse nightclub, multiple casualties, and now hostages. what any other parent would do, i called my 26 are old son to see where he was. fortunately he had his phone charged up and was able to
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answer and told me that he was asleep in bed, which gave me peace of mind to go do what i needed to do. my police liaison officer was on the way, picked me up, and we picked up my deputy chief of staff in charge of communications in our city and we arrived at the mobile command center, which was already occupied by the chief of police and his deputies. ,he sheriffs of three counties fdle, and the fbi. i was sitting next to the chief and i thought, what are my goals here? my first goal was to not get in the way. not undermine to the chief's command, and the third was together as much information as i possibly could for communication later on. speedy brought me up to on what had occurred between 3:45 a.m.and
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officer working there was occupied in the parking lot with another incident when the gunfire started, so he ran to the front door of the club and engaged in a gunfight with the shooter. the shooter went back into the club. minutes, we had four swat officers and officers from different agencies respond and not through a window for entry, and the shooter retreated into a back bathroom, where there were hostages located and there was a second bathroom across the hallway from him, so we secure the site in terms of having the shooter secured and one bathroom. that gave us the opportunity for additional officers and
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firefighters to help the victims that were still living, the wounded, get them out, and fortunately had a level one trauma center a quarter of a mile down the road, and we ask he transported about half the victims there in the back of a a police officer's pickup truck. we were under the impression that there were between 25-30 dead from the officers. they had all been rescued at that point. received a 911 call from the shooter, who declared his allegiance to the state of islam . he also made a couple of additional calls to our crisis negotiators, or actually it was the other way around. for the next hour or so we were in communication with the shooter.
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time, not know it at that but he was also in communication with a tv station, on social media, so he was pretty active in his communications. we also have the hostages in both bathrooms who were either directly in communication with 911 or were texting to someone else on the outside and giving information, so we were getting real-time information from the people that were located in the bathrooms. at one point, the shooter says that he is going to put on an explosive vest. he has talked about bombs throughout the course of this. vest on four of the hostages in the bathroom and send them to the four corners of the nightclub. it also indicated that there were explosives in his car parked in the parking lot. the chief made the decision at that point to breach the
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building, and swat had responded and had a perimeter secured, and they put an explosive device on bathroom thate did not have the shooter in it. it did not totally breached the .all, so we had a bearcat it is basically an armored battering ram, and they were able to punch four holes in the hostages came streaming out with the shooter quickly behind them. he engaged our officers and shot one in the kevlar helmet that if that shot had been two inches lower, that officer would have lost his life. then they took the shooter down. at that point, the fbi determined that that was an act of terrorism and they took charge of the investigation to follow. detail,going to go into but there was still the issue of
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whether the club was it took aped, so while to secure the crime scene based on trying to make sure that we did not end up with an explosion. they began clearing and we turned our attention to communication strategy. i knew going in that communicating with the public was going to be my most important job. a couple of hurricanes come through, the reaction, and 2004, and that was a lesson re, communication is the mayor's most important job. first press conferences were the most important that we had, and it was no question that as amir i needed to lead out at the -- as mayor, that i needed to lead out at the press conference. it was important in our estimation amid this tragedy to
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immediately hear from someone that they knew and someone that they trusted. there were three things that we wanted to communicate, or three ways we wanted to communicate. we wanted to communicate very concise repetition of facts. we wanted to communicate that we had this under control and we wanted to communicate that the ,esidence of orlando were safe that there was not another incident that was going to occur , the gunmen had acted alone in this instance. in the very first press conference, we were able to set the tone for the day and bring some call month to the disorder -- calm to the disorder. at the end of the press conference, a police chief was asked a question by a reporter. the reporter said that we understand there are 20 dead.
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the chief said, yes, there are 20 dead. well, we knew that there were more than 20 dead at that point. i turned around and said the next time we talk, i have to tell them how many dead there are. one of my deputy chiefs, our deputy communications director, chief of staff, walked up and she had just been informed that the total was in fact 50, not 20, so when we went out to the second press conference, that was the hardest moment i had during the whole process. i had to take a very deep breath ulp and say it is 50, not 20. you could hear a collective gasp from the reporters at that point, so we set the tone and there was a continuum of different things that happened, but the most important thing that we did, we cleared the
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scene by 4:00 p.m. in the afternoon. i had a nice conversation with the medical examiner and stressed on important it was for us to get the victims identified and make notification, and i care rocked. he was a superstar. by 7:00 am the next morning when i returned to the scene and he got the last of the victims at 11:00, he had identified 48 of 49 victims, and by mid afternoon we had been able to notify the families of all of those victims as well, and i can tell you that it would have been a much different scenario if we had been spending 2-3 days identifying people. kind of a narrative that i want you to have in mind as i give you what i think are a couple of lessons learned. i recall on sunday morning how unfortunate we were to be able to call on our partners in the every conceivable
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sort, the relationships that we that is these partners hard work for a mayor to do. our islamic community, faith-based leaders, business leaders, they immediately got funding in place to help the victims. our law enforcement agencies, and the ones that i mentioned, i have never seen a more seamless operation. they knew each other. they worked directly together. there was no ego involved. they all did their job. i did not have to go through any onermediaries, because benefit is that i have been mayor 14 years now, so the contacts are pretty much in my phone. as mayors, i think it shows the value of doing the daily work of being mayor and touching the people, touching everybody. sometimes it is tiresome to participate in all these community events, and sometimes it is overwhelming, but i can take that every law enforcement
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convention, neighborhood meeting, volunteer dinner, every gay pride parade, and every u.s. conference of mayors meeting i have attended over the years has helped me and help our city forge relationships that we were immediately able to tap into in our response. you can't create those relationships on the fly. you have to build those over time. investing, investing in preparation. another realization we have had is the tools and technology and training of our police and fire departments and training jointly together with all of the surrounding agencies, and particularly in this post recession world. there have been times where our local governments were overly scrutinized or criticized for some of the investments with the have made in police and fire and some of the militarized types of weapons and vehicles that we have.
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because of these investments, we have done mash casualty exercises and first responders were ready to go. we ensure that they were equipped with virtually everything to respond. i have to tell you, i caught a bunch of flak when we bought the bearcat. you can imagine that, right? if we had not had that bearcat that night, we would not have gotten into that building when we did, and i am quite certain that there would have been additional victims. financial readiness is also important. a lot of us took drastic cuts the last several years, and having a tragedy like this shows why having contingency funding available is important. and finally, i'm going to detail you one that you would never have thought of. ,e were fortunate in the city we asked of us a 501(c)(3) to handle on art program we have in a neighborhood so that we could
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through ands not-for-profit, and it turns out that the day after, so on monday, disney wanted to give us a $1 million check, and we actually had somewhere that we didd take that check and not have to rely on an outside organization that may or may not have been the type of means that we wanted to do. we have almost $10 million in that fun and lesson 12 -- less than 12 days. the community and national response to that has just been incredible. that is another area, new york, boston, we borrowed from you guys. we got the gentleman who did those funds. i believe he has done seven of those funds. that is the lesson. and use them,ple don't try to make it up on the run.
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finally the last thing i want to talk about in the last two weeks is the value of having really great people in your organization. i can't stress how important that is, because there are so many people from the city of orlando driving so far out of their lane that i'm not sure they can see the centerline, and when you are making hires within viable toalley, it is hire those who have a desire to serve and go above and beyond with customer service, and as mayor, you set that tone. i am a delegator. some are in the lead, i am a delegator. you have to have good people, and then you have to turn them loose and let them perform. i think we have a culture here that 95% of the time any decision-maker would make the same decision i would make how but the other 5% of the time, i have your back and i will not second-guess that decision. so hundreds of those employees stepped into roles that they did not anticipate, did it with
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professionalism and grace, and others put their heads down and did their job and covered for them. they did better than they had ever done before. , it just want to close with is strange to turn on a tv and a that like indianapolis still have orlando as one of the lead news stories. it almost does not feel real care and we know that at some point the cameras will leave, and when that happens, our pain will remain in the work of picking up the pieces will remain, and that work was made easier, i want you to know, because of the love and support that orlando and its residents have received from so many cities around this country. thank you for that love and support. [applause]
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>> i want to take a moment to again thank mayor dyer and to each and every one of the mayors who reached out with a message of love and support for mayor dyer. as the president of this organization, i just want to say thank you. you can look around this room and know that there have been different times in our lives when we needed each other to itw up for each other, and
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is at every point we have. so i want to thank you for being you for being great and for having compassion. we will be joined in a few moments by a special guest, so just a tuned. thank you very much. [applause] ♪
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>> as you heard, we are standing by for hillary clinton to make a remarks to the u.s. annual conference of mayors in indianapolis. out live coverage is continuing. we just heard from mayor dyer and the president of the u.s. conference of mayors. our live coverage is continuing here on c-span. ♪
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>> ladies and gentlemen, please
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welcome stephanie rawlings-blake . [applause] ms. rawlings-blake: thank you. genuine honor to introduce a very special guest. throughout her public life, hillary clinton has been a friend to mayors and cities across our country. as senator, hillary clinton securitya homeland block grant, a grant that mayors and specifically requested. she understood how important it was to provide resources directly to america cities in the fight against terrorism. state, hillary clinton promoted america's bodies around the world. she brought clear and passionate leadership to her role. hillary clinton recognizes that while our cities are the economic engines to our nations,
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they face a number of economic challenges, including crumbling infrastructure, climate change, and income inequality. she has proposed a number of ways to address these issues and promote the well-being of our cities. i am also pleased that she is with us in indianapolis, as she was last year during our annual meeting in san francisco. that is a commitment. ladies and gentlemen, please join me in welcoming back to the u.s. conference of mayors the presumptive democratic party nominee for president hillary clinton. ♪ [applause]
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mrs. clinton: good afternoon, everyone. [applause] mrs. clinton: thank you so much. i am absolutely delighted to be here with all of you among so many friends. a lot of the mayors here have been laboring in the vineyards
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of your cities and your states, and working to provide better lives for the people you and only america's mayors could find a way to put lady gaga and the dalai lama on the same program. [applause] mrs. clinton: i am really impressed by that. i want to thank your president, mayor stephanie rawlings-blake, for her leadership of this organization. [applause] is always great being a woman serving as president. [laughter] [applause] mrs. clinton: and i want to -- [laughter] [applause] i want to add a special word of greeting. stephanie told me that her , is here,. rawlings and i am kind of partial to evenr showing up to see
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their grown-up sons and daughters of form functions with such grace and dignity, so dr. rawlings, congratulations to you as well. [applause] mrs. clinton: and i want to acknowledged her next president. i have followed with great interest your creative ideas in oklahoma city, and i really look for it to your leadership of this organization, mayor. and thanks to a longtime friend, the mayor of indianapolis hosting us here. thank you so much. [laughter] [applause] mrs. clinton: as i'm sure you have already realize, he comes in with so much energy and new ideas, and i thank you for your leadership of this great american city.
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begin addressing some of our common issues and i want to say a few words about what we have seen happening in britain. a lot of americans woke up on friday to alarming headlines from across the atlantic. and they are wondering what this decision in britain means for us. i am sure that everyone in this room with retirement savings asks the same questions. in the day after the vote, billion fromt $100 our 401(k)s. now we are resilient and we will bounce back from this and from all of the other shocks that are a the system, but it is reminder that what happens around the world has
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consequences that can hit home quickly and affect our lives and our livelihood. our priority now must be to protect american families and businesses from the negative effects of this kind of tomorrow uncertainty. that's why experienced leadership is so important at times like these. we need leaders like yourselves at the local, state, and federal level who understand how to work with other leaders, to manage risks, who understand that bombastic comments in turbulent times can actually cause more , and who put the interest of the american people ahead of their personal business interests. [applause]
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mrs. clinton: we need leaders who recognize that our alliances and partnerships are among our greatest national assets, now more than ever. working with our allies has been a cornerstone of american foreign-policy under democrats because itcans alike makes america safer and more prosperous, and it should continue to guide us now. we have got to be clear about this, no one should be confused about america's commitment to europe, not an autocrat in the kremlin, not a presidential candidate on a scottish golf course. we have to reaffirm that the united states and the united kingdom are different countries
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in many important ways, economically, politically, demographically, but we still have a lot of common interests and values. just if we have seen that there are many frustrated people in britain, we know there are frustrated people here at home, too. i have seen it. i have heard it. i know it. have worked hard to find solutions to the economic challenges we face. it is why i have put forward real plans to create good paying jobs, raise wages, reduce student debt, bring down costs for college and prescription drugs, and so much else. knowle across america that they don't want inti promises. they want solutions. and that is what i hope working can offer them.
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[applause] mrs. clinton: a big reason why our economy is not working for everyone the way it should is because of political dysfunction. we have got to get washington working again. [applause] as iclinton: just have heard many mayors say there is not a democratic a republican way to plow snow or create more economic opportunities, we do what works. we do what we need to to serve our people. that means the work you are doing and the solutions you are pioneering in america's cities are even more important. we are all, and especially me, counting on you, our mayors, to get stuff done. that is one of the reasons why i wanted to be here today.
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honora special personal to follow to the podium a man who has shown extraordinary leadership in recent weeks, orlando mayor buddy dyer. [applause] like so many of you, i watched those press conferences coming from orlando, and i watch the mayor being very about whatvery clear was happening, what he knew and what he didn't know, but with the overriding message that his city, the city he loves and serves, will persevere. r, know that our hearts are with you, the people of your
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city. the attack and orlando was the worst mass shooting in american history. sadly several mayors here today have had to respond to similar tragedies that included mass , aotings or, in your case horrific bomb explosion. when i was last with the mayors , ithe conference last year was just days after the massacre and charleston. there are more mass shootings in the united states than in any other country in the world. it is not even close. are not think americans more violent, worse human beings . i believe that we cannot accept this, not now and not ever.
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as congressman john lewis said a few days ago, how many more more fathers,any need to shed tears of grief before we do something? downrson should be gunned while learning, teaching, praying, or dancing. to comeme for us together to strengthen our gun laws and keep dangerous weapons out of the hands of dangerous people. [applause] mrs. clinton: and here is what i
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we can respect the second amendment and make common sense reforms. paralyzed, not a filibuster in the senate, not a sit in in the house, could convince the leadership to move forward. i really believe the american people deserve better. in fact, every survey i have looked at shows that there is a very big majority of americans , and aor this path considerable majority of gun owners who agree. of course, it is not just about guns. leaders in congress refused to act on a wide range of issues that really matter to american working families.
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last week's split supreme court ruling on immigration could lead to the tearing apart and the deporting -- millions of people, breaking up families. happened, i have believe, if congress had done its job and task a prince of immigration reform. remember, we had a bipartisan bill that passed the senate. the house leadership would not let it come to the floor for a vote. i think it is fair to say that they did not because they were playing to the loudest voices instead of the most people, because i believe it would have passed of the house if there had been a chance to vote on it. senate,know that in the
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senators have not done their job and held a hearing for judge merrick garland, president obama's nominee for the supreme court. [applause] mrs. clinton: and i have no way judge garland, who is qualified, respected on both sides of the aisle -- i have no way of knowing how he would have voted. i would not pretend to presume that. but, we have never had a situation like this. , where we lose a justice of the supreme court, where the president in my view is obligated under our constitution , andminate a successor where these senate flat-out refuses even to hold a hearing to consider it. they could vote down judge garland, but instead they refuse
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to act. of what ist is part driving the frustration on the part of so many americans. let's have a vote. we are a democracy. either vote somebody out for vote somebody down, either vote up guns or both and down [applause] . [applause] . [applause] mrs. clinton: contrast that with what you do every day, show up. we should expect nothing less from the united states congress, and i am sure that many of you -- [applause] - regardless of party affiliation, some are republicans, some are democrats, and some in your systems are nonpartisan, nonaffiliated. i'm sure that many of you are
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running out of patience. when you look to washington for predictability for decisions, may be smart investments in affordable housing, schools, and transportation, you don't get the help you seek. instead, like other americans, uc grandstanding -- you see hearstanding, you hea threats to shut down our government. instead of solving our problems, washington is too often making them worse. make no mistake, there are still , committednate people in congress fighting the good fight every day on both sides of the aisle. i was privileged to serve in the senate for eight years. some of that time i was in the majority, and some of that time i was in the minority, but i got up every day looking for ways to work with my colleagues to make something happen for the people
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i represented, and that was ,specially important after 9/11 where i needed to make the case about rebuilding new york, lovedg the families whose ones had been murdered on that terrible day. that we can build relationships and find common ground. i take inspiration from those who get up every day in the congress and keep working to solve problems. they don't get cynical, and they don't give up. just like you, you are on the front lines every day as well. the people you serve are more than just your voters. they are your neighbors. you see them in the supermarket. you see them when you worship. you see them at your kids games. you see them. their problems and ideas, and they count on you to
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help move your city forward. you can't respond with a snarky tweet. you have actually got to deliver results because you know you will see them at the supermarket and ettrick kids ballgames, and everywhere else in the city. -- and at your kids ballgames, and everywhere else in the city. [applause] mrs. clinton: that is why it cities are where things are happening and getting done. i want to thank you. you're taking the lead in investing in early childhood curbing carbon admissions, ending veterans homelessness. [applause] implementing innovative transportation projects that connect affordable housing to job opportunities, and so much more. some experts have actually said that this could be the decade of , because our urban
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areas are growing twice as fast as they were in the last decade. cities are the major reason why our country has come back from the worst financial crisis since the great depression with more than 14 million private sector jobs created over the last six and a half years, said you know what we have accomplished, and you know how much more we have to do. your constituents are already working harder and longer just to keep their heads above water. our urbanf neighborhoods are plagued by poverty that persists from generation to generation. communities of color still face barriers of systemic racism, wages are still too low and inequality is too great. jobs in many parts of our country are booming, and in
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other parts, they are still too hard to come by. so these challenges are serious, but you give me hope that together we can overcome them. thatieve with all my heart our nation is at our best when we are rising together, when those who have been left out and left behind get a fair chance to lift themselves up, and that's and communities, cities, regions grow stronger, and our entire country is better off. carolina, i north laid out a five step plan to build an economy that works for everyone, not just those at the top. first, within my first 100 days as president, i will work with both parties to pass the biggest investment and job creation since world war ii. this will be particularly important for america's cities. let's make college debt
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free for all and transform the way we prepare americans for the jobs of the future. third, let's rewrite the rules so more companies share profits with employees and fewer ship profits and jobs overseas. fourth, let's make sure that wall street corporations and the superrich pay their fair share of taxes. and fifth, let's put families first and match our policies to how families actually live and work in the 21st century. , iusing for a minute on jobs have this old-fashioned belief that anyone willing to work hard in america should be able to find a good job that pays enough to support a middle-class life and a job that provides dignity and pride. the heart of my plan will be a
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big commitment to infrastructure , aided by -- [applause] mrs. clinton: and the public investment will be aided by a new national infrastructure bank that will bring private sector dollars off the sidelines and be put to work in rebuilding america. we will set some big, ambitious goals. i have to say that when i was growing up, one of the things just drilled and me was not only loving my country, but that we could do anything that we set our minds to, anything, because we were americans.
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well, let's set some goals again and hold each other accountable for achieving them, like connecting every household to broadband by the year 2020. [applause] mrs. clinton: if you have like i our traveled across country, you know there is a digital divide. you know that there is even a cell telephone divide. you know there are kids going to school and small businesses struggling to succeed who do not have a fast connection to they are being shut out of the global marketplace. let's set a goal to build a cleaner, more resilient power grid with enough renewable energy to power every home in america, and i feel strongly countryis because some will be the 21st century clean energy superpower.
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we invent most of the technologies and products, but if we don't have a plan and set these goals, it is more likely to be china or germany than us. that is intolerable. it needs to be us. we need to have a public-private partnership to succeed. we are also going to invest in public transit, fix failing water systems like the one that poisoned children in flint. renovate our public schools so that every child in every community has access to safe, high-tech classrooms, laboratories, and libraries. the chelsea test when i was the first lady of arkansas and then when i was first lady of the united states. i would go into his goals around our country and the first thing i would think is this a school by looking at it and meeting the staff that i would send chelsea two.
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o. i am asking the same questions, is this a school that i would send -- and you know that a lot of public schools, the answer was a resounding yes, and a lot of them no. schools literally falling down, filled with mold, no books in the library, which i actually saw myself, so when we want to live up to what we all say about ournext generation, children are the treasure of our country, we need to pay attention to where they spend most of their waking hours and what kind of message that sends to them and their families. investments like these will help your cities unlock more economic compete in the increasingly competitive global marketplace, so our goal should be full employment in a full
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thattial economy, and means that we have to make sure that good, new jobs of the future reach the neighborhoods that need them the most, from areas.ities to rural we are going to have to target billions of dollars to help young people in underserved communities find a job, maybe a first job, because in the absence of that first job, getting them into the workplace is really difficult. they need the attitudes of what ass with a good work ethic well as the skills in preparation so that they can start to build financial stability, gain those skills, the confidence and experience, to build and pursue their own career. we need to direct billions of dollars to support small businesses in hard-hit communities where investment is scarce so that entrepreneurs
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have a real chance to turn their ideas into growing enterprises that will put people to work. the new jobs,t of two thirds of them, will come , and rightbusinesses now we are falling backward in the creation of small businesses because we don't have the credit, the access to credit, that we used to. it has not come back after the great recession. to helpeed to do more people start those businesses and his exceed. focus on second chance reentry programs so that people returning from prison have a fair chance to reestablish their lives and strengthen their communities. [applause] mrs. clinton: now there are some programs that i will shamelessly borrow from. for example, we need to push for initiatives like an expanded new markets tax credit program, something that my husband
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introduced on a bipartisan basis towards the end of his second term. across thei go country, icy projects, i see revitalization, because of the new market tax credits. i want us to explore congressman jim clyburn's plan to direct more federal investment into underserved areas, those neighborhoods where we have generational poverty that need extra help to be able to get themselves up and going. and i want as to be measured by how much incomes rise for hard-working families, not how much higher ceo bonuses can go. we have been on that path. , and now we need to move towards really investing on everybody. i want to see how many children climb out of poverty, how many communities can get their residence a better future. i think that's what it means to
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have an economy that works for everyone, not just those at the top. , there's no happen question that we have to get washington to work better, and that includes getting money out of our politics. [applause] to take onn: we have citizens united and get rid of the secret money that is rigging the system. now i think it is fair to say that many of you in city and state elections run under tighter regulations or at least disclosures than we now do on the federal side. i say this, not as a democrat, but as an american. i think we are skating on thin ice. it is getting to the point that we have no idea where we are coming from. it is not being disclosed.
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money?l cartel you don't have to say. we will never know. this is about how we make government work and restore confidence and trust in it. tonk it will clear the way get something done. if you look at the people here, both sides of the political divide came together to create the bipartisan mayor compact for a better america plan. imagine that some of our republican friends here today may have questions about whether you can work with a democrat, or work with me personally. we will disagree. i disagree with some of my democratic friends. i think there is much more that we can agree on. for me, as someone who worked
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across the aisle, as senator, as secretary of state, i know we cannot get big things done unless we work together. [applause] for an agendash that i think would really help the people of this country, our cities, and create economic opportunity and bring a spec together. . will also always listen i think that is an lost art. together gather people and figure out how we will solve problems. the healtheate insurance program when i was first lady. working with senators and members of congress from both sides. with republicans
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and democrats and independents, i knew and said, no political party has a monopoly on ideas. the federal government doesn't either. i want to give you the tools that you need to get things done. at last year's conference i talked about an approach we are calling flexible federalism. recognizing that the needs and opportunities in each city differ from others. there is no one size fits all solution. we need to listen and respect one another. that is why i will never planned for you. i hope that we will plan with you to respond to your priorities to get more funding whether it is infrastructure or housing or second chance programs. so we can make the most use, as you see it, of these dollars.
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i have an old-fashioned idea. we work better when we are listening and cooperating. we work better when we have the local level helping to lead the way. when we get a partnership, not only between federal, state, and local governments, but between the private and not-for-profit sectors. that is my hope. that is what i am in tent upon doing. but i will talk about it during this election. whene more effective federal and local governments see each other as allies and not adversaries. just askingi am not to be your president i am asking to be your partner. i've heard there is a running joke in this organization that
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my husband took office as a president, but left as a mayor because he spent so much time with your predecessors and some of you were there then. i am here to tell you that i will build on that. just like you have the backs of the people that you serve, i will have your backs everyday. i intend to be calling you and asking you for advice, working with you nonstop, visiting to see what you have done that scalethat we can bring to and make available for others around the country. i want us always to have an open line of communication. i am excited by what we can do together. despite the cracking and -- the griping and the gridlock, i am excited. i think the time is right. people are tired of this extremeship, the scapegoating and
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finger-pointing. i think we all entered public service because we want to get things done. that is my hope and that is my promise to you. who sees our city as proof that america's best days are ahead of us. there is the challenge too-us to overcome together. thank you very much. [applause] ♪
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>> coming up tomorrow, hillary clinton campaigns with massachusetts senator elizabeth warren. this will be the first time that
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they are appearing together on .he campaign trail our leverage begins right here on c-span -- our coverage begins right here on c-span. e libertarian presidential candidate gary johnson spoke at the annual conference of the national association of latino, elected, and appointed officials. he talked about the libertarian philosophy and offered his views andealth care, tax policy, the u.s. role in global security. this is 20 minutes. [applause] johnson: wow. i get to make a pitch on what it
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is to be a libertarian. as strange as this whole election is going, i might just be the next president of the united states. i will let you be the judge of that. what is a libertarian? with a broad brush stroke, libertarians are fiscally conservative and socially liberal. or socially conservative. we don't care what you are as long as you don't force that on anyone else. i think that fits the description of most people in america. i think most are libertarian, but they don't know it. adding at hi third leg to that e the military interventions. libertarians are not isolationists, we are non--interventionists. why are we getting involved in other country's affairs?
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by getting involved, are we making the world less safe as opposed to more safe? fiscally conservative. let's go into that. if there is one suggestion i -- if thereveryone itany suggestion for anyone, is to be an entrepreneur. the rewards are unbelievable. as difficult as it will be to become an entrepreneur, to apply what you do tomorrow, as difficult as that would be, it will never be easier than to do that tomorrow. crony capitalism is alive and
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well in this country. i do believe in free markets. i think free markets oftentimes take the brunt of what is crony capitalism. .overnment is for sale those with money are able to buy influence. havevernmental leaders, we an opportunity to step in and say no to that. i think that government spends too much. i think that it tries to accomplish too much. by doing that, that taxes too much. when it taxes too much, that is money out of my pocket that i could spin on my life as opposed to government spending tha tmon -- that money. we have financial train wrecks in front of us. that is entitlements and spending. medicaid and medicare.
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i think they need to devolve to the states. to fit the laboratories of innovation and best practice. if we do that, i think will have fabulous success that will be emulated by other states. in that model, we will have horrible failure also, but that will get avoided. the notion of washington and one size it's all wo -- fits all works, it doesn't. social security. it is eminently fixable, but there are some reforms that need to take place. you could have a very fair means testing, should you get back more money than you paid in given a certain level of income. the notion of being able to self direct funds when you self direct social security. a percentage of that to be all to direct those funds to lower
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income or middle income individuals. you would be able to pass on the inheritance of social security as opposed to the government taking that back should you end up dying and not reaping any benefits from social security. taxes in this country. i think taxes are too high. i'm looking to be elected president of the united states so count on me to sign any legislation that reduces the burden of taxes. that reduces making it easier to file taxes. getting rid of loopholes. i will sign on to those initiatives. wand atld wave a magic taxes, i would eliminate income tax. i would eliminate corporate tax because, if we did that, we could abolish the irs.
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imagine life without the irs and replace all of it in revenue neutral. this is not designed to cut taxes or raise taxes, what i am promoting -- promoting here is revenue neutral but it would be one federal consumption tax. i think our lives would be a lot simpler the more money you make the more consumption, the more of it people consume. i suggest that you look at the fair tax. i believe 80 congressmen and women have signed onto it but look at it as a template for how to dot the eyes and across the tease when it comes to implementing one federal consumption tax. if we had zero corporate tax in this country, tens of millions of jobs would get created for no other reason. why would you create a job
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anywhere in the world other than the united states given a zero corporate tax rate. if we had a zero corporate tax rate, i think you would issue pink slips to 80% of washington lobbyists because that is why they are there. to garner tax paper. to garner some upper hand when it comes to the economy. we should embrace immigration in this country. it is a wonderful thing. we should make it as easy as possible for someone that would like to come to this country and work to be able to get a work visa. i'm not talking about a green workor citizenship, but a visa. a work visa should entail a background check and a social security card.
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i reject the notion that we should deport 11 million undocumented workers. that's incendiary. that is a misunderstanding of this issue in a big way. in building a fence across the border is misunderstanding this issue in a big way. these are hard-working men and women, hardest working that see jobs that exist in the united u.s. citizens, we are not taking these jobs. not taking jobs that swiss citizens want. make it easy. make the line moving to come across the border and that is exactly what people will do. rapists coming across the border? give me a break. law-abiding citizens more
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law-abiding than u.s. citizens. crackdown of 11 million undocumented workers going to work in new mexico where the population is 48% hispanic. i guess it will be a knock on the door by federal authorities will come to my door and say, you were the former governor. i guess you are ok but statistically, the next one they knock on will be hispanic and that will be a production of papers and this is not what america is about. about.ot what america is [applause] i do embrace free markets. there is a magic to free markets. more jobs will remote -- result for americans in a free market society than any other society.
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if we have millions of new jobs for free markets we will need tens of millions of immigrants. let me give you examples of free markets when it comes to health care for example. health care is about as far removed from the free market as it could be. if we had a free market for health care, we would not have insurance to cover ourselves for ongoing medical need. we would have insurance for catastrophic illness and we would pay as you go in a system that would be very affordable. how affordable? 1/5 of whats around it currently costs. we would have stitches r us. gallbladder's r us. for hundreds of dollars instead
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of thousands of dollars. we would have advertised outcomes. when we go to the doctor today, we have no idea what it will cost. then you get a bill and you know that nobody will pay that bill. how about advertised pricing? how about advertised outcomes? this is, pay-as-you-go for ongoing medical need. so much innovation that could occur that is not occurring. i said that the rotarians who -- iiscally responsible don't care what you do with your life as long as it does not adversely affect mine. if it adversely affects mine am a government has a role and we as elected officials -- i say we -- former elected officials have a role in protecting individuals and groups from corporations, individuals, foreign governments who would do us harm.
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supporting marriage equality, believing it is constitutional. is there a more difficult issue in this country outside of abortion and the choice of whether or not to have an abortion? i don't think there is, but i think that choice lies with the woman involved. i believe that the war on drugs has been incredibly destructive on america. we have tens of millions of americans who are convicted felons, but for the war on drugs, would otherwise be law-abiding citizens. the war on drugs is disproportionate when it comes to those of color. should legalize marijuana. i think it is happening now and i think there is a real
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education going along with it. you want to denounce the use of marijuana come a fine but understand you have friends, family and coworkers who do use marijuana. a lot of people think it is a choice, but are they criminal? no, they are not criminal endlessly become impaired, get behind the wheel of a car, or somehow do harm to someone else. you and i as human beings, don't we always with a choice in everything that we have? as long as we have competition, isn't that a good thing? we should rally behind school choice. the ability to bring competition the public education. something i think would have dramatic effects on education. the death penalty.
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right now, there is a debate on guns. i think it is a wonderful debate to have. i think that we are educating ourselves. government makes mistakes. philosophically, i believe in the death penalty. an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. there is an ever rate on the death penalty estimated to be as high as 4%. i don't want to put four people to death out of 100. innocent people. you and i is government. whenever the government makes lists, to make mistakes. i am opposed to the death penalty. it is bad public policy. we are having a debate on guns. we should do everything we can to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill. another is a debate right now
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with regard to lists and terror lists in the no-fly lists. those lists are prone to mistakes. as president of the united states i would like for you to count on me to look at these issues. if we can make government more efficient, i will sign on to these things. prudent.t to be we want to improve our lives. then the military interventions occuring across the world. i happen to think that boots on the ground, dropping bombs, flying drones and killing people isof innocent having the unintended consequence of making the world less safe, not more safe. we need congress involved in a declaration of war, something they have abdicated to the executive and to the military.
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we need a path forward. if the united states is attacked, we should attack back. isolationists, no. yes.terventionists, we need to be engaged in world affairs. that is free-trade, starting out. the biggest threat in the world now is north korea. at some point, these intercontinental ballistic missiles will actually work. i think that kim is a nut. we should be joining hands with china because they have to recognize this firsthand. this is not a good thing for china to have north korea next door. --'s join hands with korea with china to deal with north korea, because they recognize this. we have 40,000 troops in south korea. the chances of north korea
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invading south korea conventionally are zero. if you talk about nuclear weapons, they are covered with our nuclear umbrella. imagine if china stationed 40,000 troops in central america. what would we think of that? that would not be a good thing, but that is what we do constantly. we get involved in other country's affairs and we push the limits. we are responsible for a lot of the uncertainty that exists in the world today. let's be smart about this. i appreciate the opportunity to come and speak with you here this afternoon. you have all sorts of choices. new mexico has a rich heritage and naleo. it is a rich heritage that i am proud of. i think my mayor, javier is here somewhere. maybe not.
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he had to cut out. " i don't want anything to do with that guy." [laughter] he has been a great mayor of santa fe. my hat goes off to all of you. you are providing leadership, your neighbors, your friends, your family. they look to leadership to you because you have provided it. there is not a higher calling outside of public service and you all have taken that on. i appreciate you allowing me to make my case for my election here this afternoon. thank you very much. [applause]
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>> i would like to interview you . >> some of the time. i have to head out soon. >> you believe nuclear north korea is the bigger threat? >> i do believe that. >> to you think we should pull back the troops from south korea and japan? >> i think that is a real possibility that working with china we might be able to achieve that. owner, what is your reaction to the supreme court ruling? >> that congress does need to embrace this and how about a president that will get in there and pressure republicans to do this that it is the right thing. -- ieforms that are needed happen to agree with obama -- though obama and you all know
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has broken up 2 million families. i don't want to know -- i don't want to make the statistical error of 2 million or 3 million, but it's something that i would not be doing as president of the united states. do have something to say about the supreme court? >> basically that president obama's executive orders are not to be applied. what obama has done, though i -- breaking upto would not want to have done but the executive orders he's made i agree with. it doesn't involve the deportation of undocumented workers.
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>> would you support merrick garland the named question mark >> i support president obama and him having made the nomination and i think congress has an obligation to hold hearings on it. he deserves a vote? >> that is what i think. something i'm asked about in new mexico all the time is how did you get the new mexico vote that is 40 it percent hispanic? nothing. it's the same message regardless of the audience. >> there will be more questions in about 10 to 15 minutes. if anyone would like to get on the press bus give me your card.

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