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as posted on their blog a few years ago, dr. friedman once said the purpose of vouchers is to enable parents to have free choice and the purpose is to allow the educational industry to get out of the 17th century and get into the 21st century. he went on to say why not let parents pardon the voucher for math and one place in english and science somewhere else. functionally different from vouchers and providing more choices for education and scholarship, they do just that. the program is growing in arizona, having doubled in size every year since inception. in the coming year, participation will be close to double once again. let's go back to kenya and what was significant.
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it is widely acknowledged kenya is the world leader in mobile money. more people are using mobile money there than anywhere else in the world. 20 million kenyans use this service. across the country, with 60 minutes calls a giant grade of human atm's. the u.s. here, we have been slow to respond to the growth in mobile banking. for the sake of time, we will run. apple of reasons why. for more information, please see information available there. it is available on my twitter page. on facebook, it is there as well. if you do not use any of those, there is no hope for you. in the u.s., there is not enough payment terminals at merchants. we simply do not have enough hardware. banks are largely skeptical of the new technology and have been slow to adopt it into their practices. we need a sizable threshold of users for mobile banking in order for larger companies like
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banks to take advantage of the way technology is changing. we are a highly banked population in the united states. kenya -- a solution to help what is, what was largely in on banked population. this flexibility and access forever -- provided to families around the country, and in these five stations mentioned earlier, they are moving us closer to a day when a child reaches a school age, instead of being assigned to a local school district, getting a letter in the mail saying what school you are assigned to, we are getting close to the day where you hand the family and account from which they can choose a public school or private school service, pay for online classes, all the things mentioned before, even pay for massive online courses, a tremendous discount. from the u.s. federal reserve,
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this is the next graph that demonstrates how kenya is in fact a leading the world in global payment technology. this chart was similar to something done by the economist several years ago. data was not available but you can see kenya is outpacing even china. so why now and why does it matter for us today? data from the u.s. federal reserve indicates the millennial generation, read about age 18 to somewhere around mid 30's, that he does groups on your left here, they are the generation most pared for such a transition from the old school method to a new method of using account based technology to provide a learning experience for their child. these data come from a fourth installment looking at using mobile devices for financial
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services. the current and future generation of parents and workers are more likely to own a smartphone as you see appear in the chart, far more like the in many cases. they are also more likely to use the smartphone for mobile banking, here in the past 12 months. you can see the green bars. also making mobile payments with a smartphone. obviously, still outnumbered, but you can see in the graph that the younger generation, we are likely using mobile technology already to make transactions. we are actually not so far away from these convenient mobile payment systems as it may make the united states same. arkansas has partnered with a company that specializes in designing applications for public services call the national information consortium,
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the company that created a mobile app that allows for personal property and real estate tax payments, so residents can use the app to pay their taxes. in missouri, the state enables child-support deposits and payments to democrats through a partnership with visa. there are the education savings accounts i described earlier in arizona. in nevada, where the program has been suspended in court due to a lawsuit from the aclu, lawmakers are planning to take the next step, even further, with a savings account. benefit while it to manage education financing. a health savings account company, they are a subsidiary of xerox. 2 million around the country, they have $1.74 billion in assets. the point being this was an established company taking interest in the movement in the education space.
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in an interview for my report, the nevada treasure staff explained there were deaths the saving system has key differences from those in another state. in arizona, parents report the spending quarterly or they reported to the state department of education, which then reviews the expenses to make sure they are in line with the law. families will only receive the next education savings account deposit to use for their children. once officials have confirmed all of the families purchases. arizona can protect against fraudulent uses of the account and keep them from shredding every quarter. it is good but it does not stop bad transactions from happening. arizona's agency conducts audits for parents and students after they use the account, after the fiscal quarter.
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in nevada, educational vendors first -- must first register. to initiate a payment, a mobile app on a device or a computer. or by visiting a learning provider. benefit wallets, check to make sure the merchant has registered to participate. benefit while it then directly from the state for the transaction. all of this is happening in the mobile banking behind the scenes and parents will never have to see it. furthermore, nevada's multistep processes is meant to prevent them from occurring in the first place. this is potentially an improvement over arizona's methods. it does not prevent account holders for making the mistake in the first place.
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notably, in the first ever audit performed by the state general, they recommended that arizona's department of education do more to put the reporting process, put it online and have invention tools online, like an online forum to prevent misuse, for example. the auditor was pushing arizona's agency into the future and then checking thousands of expenses by hand. for now, a combination of checking by hand and expenses with online register that america created for arizona. nevada is just beginning to benefit this partnership, the potential for seamless mobile -- mobile payments and education is notably closer. last year, i met a gentleman, a phd living and working in reno, nevada, and he operates a service in the state, and we
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were attending -- the process i explained earlier about how educators will need to register with the state, it is interesting. it turns out his company is part of a network of tutors that he has a colleague in, of all places, phoenix, arizona. his affiliate there provides services using the education savings account. you can see vendors dividing the service's two are operating in states all over the country. when the partners wanted to make it easier for the canyons to transfer money, they had no choice but to be creative. we had no roadmap but created solutions we went on a pilot slated to take several months took almost two years. state lawmakers have enacted or are considering an education
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savings account and uptake in himmler ambitious steps. such courage has already benefited thousands of students around the country. we had to take the great ideas from dr. friedman and others who had been around for many years, and create a whole new concept for parents have multiple choices and can make multiple visions at one time. policymakers should integrate solutions into payment platforms for the education savings account lawmakers should take advantage of the existing relationship with financial institutions like benefit while it to expedite the availability of mobile payment systems like other services so that consumers and parents of school-aged children can take advantage of them. the effect of such policies can only multiply. as the economist explains, having an established base of initial users, they then benefited from the court -- network effects. the more people who used it, more people sign up for it.
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educational service providers can benefit from these effects that helped kenya's program benefit so quickly. the future of learning is an exciting and hopeful place for people of all walks of life. every child should have access to an education savings account in the same way every child has access to a public school. the future is full of opportunity and we cannot get there fast enough. thank you. [applause] >> thank you all. i want to say a few quick words because we are here in d.c. on what we can do on the federal level. we've heard about the research, we have heard real life stories, we have heard about innovative options like education savings accounts, but can we advance these ideas at the federal level, particularly if we recall what known friedman said about what happens when you put the federal and got -- the federal
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government in charge of anything. if you put the feds in charge of the sahara desert, in five years, there would be a shortage of sand. that isshould we, as with something as important as school choice programs, put it in the hands of federal programmers? if we think about education financing, the vast majority of that financing comes from state and local taxpayers. 40% of that comes from the state level, roughly. maybe 30 from the localities. and then there is that me -- remaining 10% from the federal level. on the whole we got 90% coming from state and local taxpayers and 10% from washington.
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this is a practical matter if we want to enhance choice options. it has to come from states and localities. beyond that, of course there are concerns, rightfully, about federalism issues, public schools, private schools, charters and the impact of regulation as a result of federal options expanding. having said that, there are quite a few options that are entirely appropriate to consider. i want to really quickly walk through five of those. the d.c. opportunity scholarship program, the voucher program that virginia talked so elegantly about a few moments ago and how life-changing it has been, i will talk a little bit more about it. the obama administration has tried to phase out that program almost every single year, but it is still here and going strong and fighting. thinking about transitioning the district of columbia in its entirety in the jurisdiction of congress to an all education
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savings account district. instead of funding as we have in d.c., making that funding entirely student centered and portable in the form of an education savings account. bureau education schools, providing education savings accounts to those children. title i affordability, which i will talk about in the second, and portability for children with special needs. the d.c. voucher program, some between $8,000 to $12,000 depending on whether there and elementary or high school student. there are approximately 12,000 444 kids benefiting and we have for every applicants
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available scholarship. high demand. the average household condemn in washington, d.c., is $21,000 per year. these are low income children in a fitting. the obama administration has .ried to phase out this program we see it happen almost every year when the budget comes out that the d c.o.p. is zeroed out in the budget. that has been a travesty with the full choice option in the president's backyard that we see singled out every year and jeopardize. this is a student in the program, we ran some advertisements when it was being jeopardized a few years ago in a was successful on the buses and blanketing the system. there is an important reason to think about not only retaining the d.c. lsp but expanding it.
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dr. wolf went through all of this about the impact. graduationase in rate. keep that in mind and think structured,nding is it is difficult to justify our -- one of our colleagues at the foundation for excellence in education talked about how easy it should be for us to justify education finance in the district if we think about the fact that the system and by that he means the washington, d.c., school system routinely spends 21,000 -- 29,004 hundred dollars income -- rep. farr: for high income students. forrovides $14,000 per year high income students to attend public charter schools, but only a maximum of $8,000-$12,000 for
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low income students who would like to attend a private school system using an opportunity scholarship program that increases their chance of edgewood high school by 21 percentage points. is a financing system that should be incredibly difficult for us to justify so if we think about and remember the fact your are under the district of congress, transitioning it to a funding funding are student-centered and portable in the form of a savings account like jonathan described earlier. you can use it for private schools, online learning, or a host of other providers and services. if we thinkd option about the bureau of indian affairs schools, i don't know if anyone saw this article in politico that came out six
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months ago, the title says it all. washington has created some of the worst schools in america. in the article said the network of schools for native american children run by an obscure agency of the interior department remains arguably the worst school system in the united states. eight disgrace the government has known about 48 decades and never reformed. 48 -- has known about decades. it has the lowest education rights even as the education they're getting is among the nations most expensive. that is a wreck toward from the litter cow if you get a chance onread and it is an expose the bureau of indian affairs schools. readingook at the scores for native american
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children who attend bureau of indian affairs schools, they score 182 on the fourth grade reading exam. you put it in perspective, their native american peers who go to public school score 207 on average in reading. to grade levels of learning in reading for these kids. attendlf of children who euro of indian affairs schools graduate. a low graduation rate. in juneau humphrey graduating high school is. entirelys almost through the school. -- the federal government spends 830 million dollars per 40,000 children who attend the schools. about $16,000 per child. lastly, i would note title i and
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idea portability, i lumped them together. title i, we spent about 15 billion dollars a year on title i. it is all federal funding at the level for federal funding districts. there may be seven experts across the country to the italian title one works and whether or not funding will make it to a child in poverty. states the options and that is critical to give states the options to make the dollars affordable in the form of an .ducation account the same thing could be said for individuals with disabilities, that is about 11 point $5 million a year giving states a portability option. theve already mentioned doctor with the best ideas next
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to pat wilson. another thought, he says that you think about the traditional school voucher model, a great model. we can think of it sort of like the rotary fun. business technology is done really well but this one technology gives you the ability to give you a single school choice and it is a lifeline for students to get a bite and depends on where your flexibility is. not only do they do that technology very well like the rotary phone does. if you compared to an iphone it's like facetime, but they do these other things, all of these other applications on your iphone think about the savings account, you can hire a private tutor. edges online learning services. textbooks, curricula, and a five in school tuition and rollover s year-over-year.
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and we don't say school choice anymore, it is education choice. so the d.c. program expansion, converting to an all in esa ram. of euro of indian affairs schools, giving them savings account and ideate funding. we could think about working to advance to achieve some of the goals. thank you. [applause] >> thank you so much. we have a few minutes for questions if anyone has questions. razor hand and we will be happy to answer them. hello. >> hello. my friend jason russell sitting next to me recently wrote about
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some of the prospects for the next prospects for the education secretary and we know that there were some flattering things said about the teachers union. and i wanted to ask maybe how you see her essential victory getting nominated and in flowing -- influencing what the fight could look like. >> i will speak to the policy and not any of the other very interesting parts of your country -- question you brought up. policy perspective, moving forward, no matter what happens in the next few months seeill be frustrating to the types of progress in the states not continue to advance for whatever reason in my he whether it is continuing union
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stranglehold's or anything else that might come our way, seeing the progress mary claire talked about earlier. it advanced choice options, innovative options, i think it would be a real travesty to see that progress rewarded. tippingwe are at a point. every year heritage puts out an index of cultural opportunity and we rely heavily on the school options across the country and every year the data looks better. i think we are almost at a tipping point when it comes to choice. i think no matter what happens moving forward, that tsunami of choice will overwhelm us. most states will be able to look around and say,
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hey why don't i have access to choice. if i'm in texas and oklahoma is why can't i? it is optimistic but i do think we are at a tipping point. >> washington deals with an enormous amount of money but the kids live in the states. so to the extent that states can determine their on destiny and provide grounds like education savings account, there are states without charter school options. there is still a place for lawmakers to be aware of what is out there in what they need to do to give children quality opportunities said that will be really important to note regardless of the shifting sand in washington. it is important for state leaders. like ednk organizations do biggerare going to
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and better things. we're going to make sure things happen and set of whatever happens. we're going to keep moving forward because children and parents are demanding that. whipping every student succeeds act reauthorization replacing no job left behind, there is a strong political and policy movement toward decentralization of education as jonathan method. aaditionally it has been state and local policy and no child left behind was a bit of an aberration or movement away from that. there is a strong pushback towards decentralizing and delegating and no delegation is in the education field than placing decisions in the hands of parents, so i think it would be if a called to take that away from so many families and so many states across the
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country. >> i wanted to thank you for talking about creating a community for the students. the american federation for meeting attended yesterday called america's underdog, students and crisis. it is about the horrible thattion in the commission we are sick on in the schools i encourage everyone to watch the video and understand a is a crisis. when you first started talking washington, d.c., parents, they did not realize that they could have a voice in this area and i wondered if maybe the parents stuck in the schools maybe feel that way.
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what would you suggest? how do you start encouraging families that they can have a voice to start talking more about getting involved. >> thank you. we first started parents held back and said they never realized they could complain and speak out and be advocates for their children. we will encourage them to do that. you have to be advocates for your parents. but there are a whole lot of other issues that go beyond parents in d.c. who are african-americans for the most part. and i haveng with had some expensive native american families, so i think spending time talking to parents from a parent saying to them, you have every opportunity, every right to speak out on behalf of your children as
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americans. that is what we constantly told them over and over again until they realized that they do have rights. i think we have to go back to the fundamental way of dealing with parents that we started in the 90's, telling parents they can do this. most parents we dealt with early on was never told we could speak out. to the contrary, people told us to get away. and so once parents understood , we organizednce a many parents and washington, d.c., because these are your children you can tell them you can tell people what you want has to be done. -- i am fromtances arkansas and close enough to
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oklahoma. i have seen really bad situations. >> will time for one more question. >> one type of school choice everybody talks about is a program funded by an individual corporate tax credit. i am wondering, i am not aware of milton friedman ever talked about that before his death. if not, what you think he would've thought. one of the me like things but the program as they take money away from public schools where is that is not really the case with the scholarship programs funded funding.from open >> i would say bring it all on, whatever it is. sculptors, charter schools, whatever it might be.
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there are huge benefits for tax credit scholarships and some limitations like there are with that wantsout there to maybe phase out your income tax for example so it is important for states to be like us, all of the above, willing to advance school choice and 700kly to give you the level course on school choice, we can get to the point where we have a tax credit funded account. if you are in a state that has a amendment orive support clause or something to be said for moving the tax credit scholarship esa around. >> i will add to that, in our ofe a, we have enough cases government run bachelor programs and privately run scholarship programs and when we looked at the results separately, the test
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score impacts were somewhat higher for the government culture programs that you and we think the reason is funding was significantly higher. so i do not think there is any problem with the mechanism, the funding mechanism of tax scholarship, it is just they tend to be a smaller resource for families and therefore do not deliver as much in terms of test score gains for kids. so a fully funded full value tax scholarship i think lucy would see the same results we see with voucher programs. critiquentioned the for funding from the public system. funding follows the kid as we would say. but i think that is a feature milton friedman would have said is a feature, right? it is a competitive charlie public system that allows all of this to rise. can't speak for freedom but i would imagine he would be supportive of the tax credit scholarship model as well.
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why would you go to school once the child had left? >> thank you so much for coming here today and for your great insightful questions. these join me and thinking our panelists. [applause] [indiscernible chatter]
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>> air force lieutenant general joseph was recently confirmed by the senate as national guard euro chief. this morning there will be a handover ceremony at the pentagon. live coverage at 11 a.m. on c-span. and an update on the international aids conference thisin south africa summer. we'll hear about advancements in funding for hiv aids research. live noon eastern also here on c-span. >> a c-span's washington journal, live every day with news and policy issues that impact you. coming up this morning, houseorse -- white correspondent will discuss president obama's plans to move ahead with the partnership trade
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deal despite opposition. and kevin mattson, ohio university professor of contemporary history will currentdonald trump's presidential campaign without a former president richard nixon in 1968. professor mattson will focus on campaign themes, messaging, advertising, as well as compare 1968 andonment of 2016. he sure to watch beginning live this morning. during the discussion. >> up next, a conversation on pursuing war crime charges against syrian resident bashar al-assad who is accused of committing atrocities against citizens during the ongoing civil war. we will hear from the former u.s. ambassador in charge of pursuing war crimes. the washington institute hosted this event.
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>> good afternoon. welcome to the washington institute. fellow in thehe institutes program on politics. i would like to thank all of you for taking the time to attend will be one of the institute's important policy forums of this year. forces tighten the noose is around the largest city of aleppo, the secretary of state and the united states are trying to negotiate a treaty to combat terrorism and strengthen the agreements and syria. at the same time, i'll of regime mass atrocities continue to hang of the battlefield and complicate efforts to reach a
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settlement. remain about the legal implication of the assad regimes response to the uprising. the nature of russian and iranian involvement in war and the manner in which the united states and the international community will handle war crimes but in the -- under a new american president. to discuss what is known of the assad regime's complicity in mass torture, the targeting and other issues, the washington institute is pleased to host some of america's best minds working and writing on the crisis and the international issues surrounding it. eightleft is ben taub, contributing writer at the new yorker. a ane has recently written masslent article on the
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killings as well as shadow doctors some more recent regime targeting of doctors and hospitals. the reporting on the asset files was facilitated by the pulitzer center for crisis reporting here in washington. a great outset that i have noted in the past through my work with the institute of current world affairs and i encourage you to check them out. second, stephen rapp, the former u.s. ambassador at large for global criminal justice. he currently serves for the prevention of genocide and is a distinguished fellow at the hague school for criminal justice. last but not least, is wales i is wa'el, i think
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he is one of the most knowledgeable persons in the government who knows about the region as a whole. without further do, i will turn ben.s over to comments here today are on the record and less and shocked it otherwise and second, for those of you speaking, please speak directly into the microphone's because not only are we being carried on network television but also we are streaming this live so in order to get your point across you are going to have to focus it towards the microphone. ok. ben, the floor is yours. i am going to focus on presenting the assad files.
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talking to doctors and hospitals while the pattern evidence is very clear and systematic. the internal regime documentation collected that i wrote about focuses on detention crimes which have affected hundreds of thousands of syrians, millions when it comes to family members. in the past four years a group of four kinds of investigators who formed a commission called commission for international justice and accountability have smuggled over 600,000 syrian government documents out of the country. these came from security intelligence facilities captured by rebels and those rebel commanders knew that these had an investigator's on the ground ready to receive documents and to so when these facilities were overrun, they would call up one of the operatives who would go when, box everything up, get the
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evidence together so it could later be sifted through by lawyers in europe. buried in the ground or in caves or hidden then abandoned homes until it was possible to move documents across international borders. through very complex negotiations, they have amassed this enormous quantity of evidence which then a large team of international lawyers and translators and analysts have gone through and built the case against the syrian government. the first of several cases which focus on crimes and detention. using these documents which come from those security committees, as well as cities and provinces, they have been able to trace a end rebuild the chain of command and use the chain of command to link the systematic torture in murder of tens of thousands of people in detention facilities
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to a policy crafted by the committee approved by the president assad himself a end returned through mid and low level security agents. so this committee i am talking about is called the central crisis management staff and it was formed by assad in march 2011 in response to the ongoing protests. the meeting minutes, the document that references the earliest meeting, says it was marched on -- formed on march 27. i get appointed to this committee by his brother. forppointed the heads security agencies. military intelligence, air force intelligence, political security. the head of the national security bureau which is the body that coordinated these four intelligence bodies
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historically also appointed the minister of the interior. and, the each of these men and a minister of defense. few other ad hoc members, each of these men presided over his own chain of command and coordinated the responsibilities and shared information down. passing the orders and the policies they crafted were then approved by assad and sent back as orders through multiple parallel chains of commands into the distant provinces so that everyone had the same information and was working toward the same coordinated goals. there was a succession of -- there was an obsession with coordination. each of the 14 provinces had its own security committee which was made up of roughly the equivalent in each province and these men would then pass their meetings and reports directly up the chain and there would be meetings and reports from the district and it was to the extent that a document link you find in one of the documents
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while working on that story, directly from the heads get the report from 350 miles outside of damascus to secure roads between provinces and it is a report from a -- an intelligent agent that says they found a piece of graffiti that said down with bush are on a water pipe near the road 300 miles from damascus and one of the members of the crisis cell sent back instructions to find the perpetrator of the crime and they spent a month looking for him and then sent a note back saying, we tried but we could not find him. so this is all linked in and how well-informed the guys on the top word to the crimes happening ground.
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the crimes -- you know, the crackdown at first -- i am not going to go through the history of the crack downs. we all know the system of oppression that followed in the early months. targeting the protesters, arresting or detention. it did not just focus on what width detention but the actual policy that target certain categories of people who were tortured and murdered in facilities. this policy came from a meeting of the crisis on august 5, 2011,
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for which they had a meeting and had them referenced in other documents as they were sent down the chain of command to the provinces for orders of implementation. this policy was -- targeted certain categories of people. targeted at just organizers. a direct quote, those who tarnish the image of syria in foreign media. and so, you have then the crimes against humanity that then follow our -- that in the course of the implementation is repressive but not necessarily criminal plan, the crimes occur more about will talk the control and responsibility. international criminal law takes into account the fact that a lot highest level of the traders are not at the -- highest level perpetrators are not at the scene but they are responsible for the highest atrocities committed by their subordinates. once there was a great system of pressures. the last line is the targeting policy. in instructed mid-level security agents to supply to the head of the national security bureau a
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list of names of security agents who appeared irresolute or unenthusiastic in performing their duties. when you find when you interview thousands of detainees who have survived and been interviewed by the u.n., i focused on the narrative of one detainee who suffered immeasurably. whose testimony happens to connect the database is not only with the regime documents but also to files which you will hear more about soon from hospital 601 where he was detained and tortured further. and because of these interrogations, detainees were kept for months and sometimes years in absolutely inhumane conditions. conditions with 10 or 11 or 12
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or 13 people held in a single solitary confinement cell for weeks at a time. conditions where a 10 meter by three meter broom there might be more than 100 people living together for months and months. people would die from various sickness is going around the facility. people would die when guards would arbitrarily abuse them into their wounds would not heal and they would get infected. they would eventually after however long be taken to a room specifically for interrogation and the interrogation would be part of the plan as well. once an interrogation started, they would be interrogated over the various questions listed in the targeting policy of the crisis cell itself. and when people would not admit to committing various crimes they had not done, for instance, one was an organizer, he a admitted to being an organizer, he admitted to sending out videos of protests
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to al jazeera after being tortured. but that was insufficient, the system of pressure for larger results. they needed to be able to create this veneer of a traditional process which meant a system with much more serious crime so he was tortured in ways that i do not think i should describe here but are in the article if you want to read it. to the point where he admitted to terrorism and crime said not done and this happened to hundreds of thousands of detainees across the country. because if the intelligence agents doing the interrogations did not get results they themselves ended up in the
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cells. that happened. there were numerous witnesses who were also tortured in detention. for having not carried out your duties with enough force. i will close with just saying that the next step in the process was once they had been coerced into confessing to these crimes, after a few more months of detention, they would be forced to some print right up there confession often people worth i'm printing these documents while they were wereere the imprinting -- thumbprinting these documents while they were blindfolded. they had no chance to read what their confessing to and those who were released became sympathetic judges. that was the case with one who showed the judge these signs of torture all over his body, his broken ribs. his emaciated torso. and the judge took pity. other judges would then send them to prisons where they would be no because they had confessed
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to these crimes, the judicial process for which they could be detained legally for however many years. so this is the sort of cases they built from internal regime documents and from hundreds of witnesses. the key things in terms of prosecution is explaining these crimes on individual criminal responsibility which they can trace through the documents straight up to the very top. open -- [applause] >> thank you, ben. stephen rappssador
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to take the stage next. ambassador rap: thank you to the washington institute for holding this program and for bringing us back to the issue of the massive trustees and the ways in which we can bill for the day when those responsible are held to account. war going on since began.flict hundreds of thousands, millions and road. to the seas have left home and hearth were they were secure and seeking refuge elsewhere. it is not just the conflict.
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industryicts cause it to the civilian formulation. this is a conference five with the commission of mass atrocities. in a way that has made life ends life intolerable. taking indoor- miss risks to escape those horrors. salute ben taub's work on these two stories in the new yorker i worked closely with him. i remember visiting the office in brussels. i think he was there for two weeks poring over documents. if you ever wants to end his career as a journalist and become a prosecutor i think you would be a great asset on any team. meticulously putting together the information there. as i said, it is frankly so much
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more overwhelming the and the kind of evidence we had on those who were responsible for evidence and rwanda. acrossther crime scenes the world. the biggest evidence of a and when i continue to have contact with is evidence from the so-called caesar file. i went to sam recently and he is 44good shape but he gave a page statement to a magistrate in a european country that he is continuing to cooperate. appreciate his bravery and the bravery of all people that have brought out the documentation. , militaryareer please police investigator who investigated crime scenes and in
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-- until hein the defected in aust 2013, he was hist with himself and family. his group took more then 50,000 photos many of you have seen some of them on public display. they are incredible. in ones that are shown people of all ages, move most of , starved. not just a start. isaac gouged. bones broken. -- eyes galveston. bones broken. chemical burns.
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people if is rated. removed. the number system was set whole is used. medical personnel came down and held cards in front of each of and caesarhe number when in every night and put all of these in. they had the name the person had died. during that time, more than 11,000 people were tortured to death in these facilities in the damascus area. institutions like to 35, the palestinian branch. 2 16 color associated with military intelligence.
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since that time some 760 of them have been identified and their families have come forth. i met some of the families and they described not knowing anything about what had happened to their son or nephew. i touches some businessmen now in the is temple area who are in the construction business. he was bringing supplies to a job site and he was picked out because he came from an area by the domestics -- damascus suburbs. the next time his parents see him is as an emaciated, torn, broken individual. , i rememberhy talking to these guys, they
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said, keep doing our business till 2013. eventually cannot a functional to live which is why people of take into the road. the people who ended up getting , ben taub talked about .ur friend to manage to survive he is one of the few people who once to put himself forward publicly. he was working with a documentary crew. still so thin and broken, it almost seems like his arms are on backwards to be frank. he continues to talk about his experiences and he explained how and he wasmes oil company and became a secular protester on his way to deliver milk for to the deceased people in the
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area at the time he was arrested. bad situations and the facilities and periodically amnesty. the way in which they are conducting it is also through a form of siege warfare. it is a crime to the seizure a civilian area, to cut off food and medical supplies and certainly beyond cutting of medical supplies, intentionally targeting medical ambulances.
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these are state facilities. because there is such great notice of what is going on in them, these would be among the cases ever prosecuted. cases involving bombardment are more difficult because we know in a conflict civilians are presence among civilians and there will be civilian casualties. the approach the syrians have andn has been sowed direct so targeted towards civilian objects and humanitarian objects that that case is also very strong. article, ben taub friends from physicians from human rights, very pleased to be on their board.
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they documented the number of medical professionals killed which is now reach more than 700s by the regime. hand, 27.e other even if she wanted to me more visible to us, this represents the proportion of the crimes and serial. syria. you can see on your website, for some of these killings the doctors or the people in the photos, people like dr. susan went toic allah vote to help and ended up murdered by the regime and found >> in the bombings there have been attacks by syrian government forces and 45 bombingans and syrian
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raids together. 24 by the opposition. one has been documented to be a coalition strike i am sure they would argue unintentionally hit a medical facility. the way in which they are conducting it is also through a form of siege warfare. it is a crime to the seizure a civilian area, to cut off food and medical supplies and certainly beyond cutting of medical supplies, intentionally targeting medical ambulances. just to show their red cross. now they go around and muddy vehicles because they know if they are in a white vehicle and is known as humanitarian mission, they are going to be a monk those targeted. it is so much more dangerous, frankly, to be a civilian and humanitarian actor than it is to be a soldier or rubble.
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-- a soldier or a rebel. now we have a report from someone who one a report -- someone who won an award of reporting on bosnia, he wrote on sunday about what he read and threat by vladimir putin and russian to employ the grocery in regard torule aleppo. a declaration, get out or you are all dead. this is part of why they have announced with humanitarian fanfare that they were opening up these four corridor's for people to leave. but we know the history of the corridor's. the dangers of people being pulled away from those that may be leaving families. separated. the absence of a safe place to go even at the end of the wrote.
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-- the end of the route. it doesn't make any difference even if it was a highway lined with forces. and dormitories at the other end to make that kind of declaration. to make that kind of declaration and turn around and target everyone who does not leave with indiscriminate bombing or unleashing killers on the ground is murder. it is a war crime. also, extermination is a crime against humanity and as we saw in grossman, the large presence of chesney and -- chechnya and, it does not destroy them. it creates them. it is criminal conduct. it is unthinkable that anyone would think the vladimir putin government was playing a constructive role in syria. they made common cause with vladimir putin and assad to go against the group. commanders are now in danger of


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