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bonnie in ohio. this.: my comment is trump cano think that change and turn america around. i would urge people to see hillary's america. i don't want to give a commercial. it's a wonderful movie that really shows us not just hillary and bill clinton but how the democratic party from way back when really impacted some terrible things in our country including slavery. toould just urge people please go see that movie. i know people in hillary's corner probably won't.
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it's just incredible and it is based on facts that can be checked. it's based on what happened in congress 150 years ago. host: david is in new york. independent. go ahead. caller: good morning. i've got to say i'm an independent and i can go either way. obamacare came through for me. i have a daughter who at the time was under 26 years old. she lost her insurance and we were able to get her on our insurance which was a fantastic help. the candidates we are voting for, it's going to be the lesser of two evils. there is a book out about donald trump having 3500 lawsuits against him by contractors who have worked for him over the years. they all had to settle. that's not a really good portfolio to go into office
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with. on the other hand we have hillary clinton. everybody talks about how liberal the clintons were. if we rewind and look at the three strikes minimum mandatory sentencing, signing of the financial freedom act, signing of nafta -- those are the things sinking the ship. it's a really tough decision. that's how i'm thinking about it. anyhow, thank you c-span. host: wendy in ohio. independent. good morning. caller: hello? thinklling about -- i what's going on is really just a smokescreen for nobody's talking how soon our economy is going to be crashing worse than the last time.
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the world bank is failing. addressing how bad the next collapse is going to be. nobody's talking about it. host: what's the main cause of that you think? bank's justworld keep trading fake money. ok.: larry in connecticut. independent. good morning. caller: yes. good morning. i've been trying to get through for weeks. i'm glad for c-span. i just recently retired. 67-year-old. i have been following politics because i can't find much to do
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with myself. from the first day i watched donald trump come down with his wife on the elevator i read he hired 200 actors to come in and clap for him. i have watched so many opinions. he flip-flops on everything. he lies constantly. he disrespects the highest office in the land. i love history and i can't believe politics have come to this. i just wanted to make those comments. i appreciate your program. host: david in north carolina. independent. good morning. caller: good morning. almostson i'm calling, everyone is calling hillary a liar about what happened in benghazi. but what i'm trying to say is what's the difference between thathappened in benghazi
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happened in south carolina? what happened in florida? what's the difference between? who is responsible for those deaths? one death doesn't overshadow another death. that is my concern. everybody calling this lady a liar. but what's the difference? death is death regardless of who does it. what's the difference between benghazi, florida, south carolina, colorado? they all are the same. who is responsible? host: our last caller on today's program. we will now take our viewers to the national press club where green party presidential candidate jill stein is holding a news conference. she will be touching on the flooding in louisiana, climate
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change, and the rules for the upcoming presidential debate. you can watch that here on c-span. we will be back tomorrow morning at 7:00 a.m. eastern here on washington journal.
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>> hello everyone and welcome to the press conference this morning. eroa.me is melissa figu we will be starting in just a moment. are there any quick questions before we begin in terms of
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press or logistics? no? ok great. with no further ado, fresh from baton rouge, louisiana, here is green party presidential nominee jill stein. thanks very much. and thank you all so much for being here today. i really appreciate your attention to these very critical issues that are converging in aren rouge, louisiana which really symptomatic of a crisis across the country. just want to say a quick word about baton rouge and in particular denim springs where we have just returned from and we had the honor of being escorted through some of the
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most tragically struck areas of baton rouge where essentially there has been no recovery and almost nothing in the way of services. from the point of view of the residents in denham springs, at least in the neighborhood we were able to see, this is another case of very unequal recovery. in fact one of the residence of the shelter that we visited was actually a displaced person from katrina and from new orleans who had never been able to return to new orleans because the recovery there was also a case of unequal recovery. ir feeling was the services on the part of fema and the nonprofits were not coming to their neighborhood whether you are talking about help gutting their homes, food toief, services with laundry
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be able to wash their filthy materials. just help trying to salvage their precious memories and lifetime possessions. we saw out on the street not only furniture, bedding, cabinets, walls and so on but the mementos of their lives and of their children. including sports trophies and photos and things of that sort. this was clearly a very wrenching moment for them. they felt incredible strength and courage from the generosity of the community. one of the women we spoke to had been stapled in a neighbor's house -- staying in a neighbor's house who had taken 22 people that were displaced on their street. we were hosted by the louisiana green party and their
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connections to some of the impacted people and many of the nonprofit groups including together baton rouge, north baton rouge disaster relief, the mutual aid disaster relief, and springs which is a gofundme effort to support the neighbors trying to salvage their homes. those were the main groups we were working with. their resilience and strength and optimism was really incredible. it is of interest that the shelter we visited, was not an official shelter because there are not enough official shelters to go around. this community center was housing 12 families including some who had previously been displaced in katrina.
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it is also of interest that one of the people who helped get that shelter going was general in charge of the , the stateief effort or federal military who had come in and finally brought order to the new orleans relief effort. here he was kind of doing the same thing on a smaller scale in baton rouge. know, there are something like 100,000 people who have filed for federal relief. think were people i not covered by insurance because this was not a flood zone. larger senseat the of this, we have a climate emergency that is really taking headlines all over
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the country right now. both the floods which are not limited only to louisiana but we have seen the recent floods in arizona, west virginia, texas. somee seeing 500 year, people called in 1000 year flood floods them 1000 year that are undoubtedly related to climate change. any storm cannot be definitively pegged to climate change but there issee so many, no question that this is a consequence of warmer air that holds more water. it's not just the floods. it's also the drought, the heat waves we have seen across much of the country, and the fires on the west coast which at last
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82,000ad displaced some people have been evacuated as of last week. in addition there are growing warnings about sea level rise. according to the foremost climate scientist, he is worth, manyards yards worth of sea level rise as soon as 50 years from now. that would be an absolutely devastating sea level rise that would essentially wipe out coastal population centers including the likes of manhattan and florida and so on. world, the entire country of bangladesh.
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this is not something we want to continue charging headlong towards. even under the so-called all of the above climate plan of the obama administration, greenhouse gases have not just been rising, but the rate has been accelerating. why we call for essentially declaring a climate state of emergency. recognizing that we are facing civilization threatening events now. and the time window to prevent them is closing rapidly. t something that can wait 15 years. there is a long delay in the impact of those greenhouse gases. i will talk about our solution very briefly in a moment. i just want to point out early
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that this underscores why we think an open debate is absolutely critical in this election. there will otherwise not be a candidate who is not taking money from the lobbyists, preparations, super pac's -- corporations, super pacs. ones note only compromised by the fossil fuel giants, war profiteers. we are the only clean people powered campaign in this election. we have a unique ability to tell the truth. not only about climate change but the endless and expanding wars making us less secure while they cost us over half of our discretionary budget and about half of your income taxes yet we only make the terrorist threat bigger with each cycle of violence. there are a number of issues
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where we have the unique ability to tell the truth in an election where we are seeing unprecedented realignment with the republican party essentially unraveling at the seams. many prominent republicans now supporting hillary clinton. hillary clinton appealing to the republicans to come into her big tent. with her transition director being one of the lobbyists' lobbyists who supports the keystone pipeline and the tpp etc. there is a clear signal of the democratic party continuing to move to the right. leaving not only the bernie sanders supporters out in the cold but so much of the american public at a time when polls tell us that over half of americans are very dissatisfied with their choices. a recent poll about a month ago
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found that 13% of the american public was satisfied with the two party approach to the presidential election. we think at a time when we are facing really critical issues in an election where we are not just deciding what kind of world we will have but whether we will have a world or not going forward, we think it's really critical that we have open debate and put more choices in front of the american people who are clamoring for those choices. word about a solution to this crisis. essentially we are saying we have to declare the state of emergency that we have. that emergency is compounded by existing racial disparities and economic disparities that put the most vulnerable on the front lines of the climate crisis as well as on the frontline of the economic crisis. we call for a joint solution
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that solves these problems. economic recovery has come to those on the top but not most americans. particularly younger americans who have essentially been hung out to dry in a system in which they are held hostage by staggering levels of debt that are unpayable in the current economy. and the climate crisis essentially exploding on their watch. here thatr a solution addresses both the economic and the climate crisis. we call it a green new deal. it's not a hypothetical. it's based on something we actually did in the great depression that helped us get out of it. that is an emergency jobs program that would create 20 million jobs, ensuring that every american who can work and wants to work has a decent job asjob, a living wage
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part of this emergency mobilization. which we also call a wartime scale mobilization. when pearl harbor was bombed at the outset of the second world months took us six massively mobilize our economy. we went from 0% on a wartime gdp in the25% of course of six months. clearly we can do this. we can mobilize and we are calling for 100% clean renewable energy by 2030 which is what the science tells us is exactly what we need if we are to hold temperature rise to the low 1.5 degrees centigrade. and essentially turn the tide on climate change. we would be creating jobs in the area of clean renewable energy.
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of healthy anda sustainable local food production. that's a major component of greenhouse gases. also public transportation that is energy-efficient, renewable powered, and dovetails with recreational transit. this is itws about not only restarts the economy, it turns the tide on climate change and makes the wars for oil obsolete. when you have 100% clean renewable energy for the foreseeable future. is how it pays for itself.
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beenirst mechanism has articulated in very detailed engineering studies. andwe get so much healthier i can say this under authority of a medical doctor. we get so much healthier when we andway with air pollution when we do away with fossil fuel exposure, which caused 200,000 premature deaths in this country and make major contributions to the epidemic of asthma, heart attacks, strokes, and cancer. when you do the numbers and look at the contribution of fossil fuels to this public health burden, we get so much healthier when we zero out fossil fuel. in health care expenditures is enough to pay the cost of the transition over
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approximately a decade and a half according to one of the prominent studies here. it pays for itself in terms of health benefits. you factor in the reductions in our military expenditures, our bloated and dangerous military which is not making us safer, if we cut that military budget, that puts hundreds of millions of dollars into the money we need in order to undertake this green new deal. n-win for ouri economy, climate, health and another one for peace and international security. a couple of quick mentions. justso call for a transition that ensures workers in the industry and communities like in coal country, that they will not lose jobs until those
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jobs are replaced. or there will be transition support. as the state of new york adopted recently in their phasing out of their coal plants. they assure their workers of comparable financial support and benefit coverage for two years. we would be looking at a longer period. that and opent at it up to your questions. just underscoring we are really at a critical moment of transition on the climate as well as on related issues including global conflict which very often are related in fact to access to fossil fuels and their roots of transportation. hail mary moment. we very critically need to change course.
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we need to have an open and honest discussion about what we are actually facing, particularly our younger generation which has been held hostage not only by a predatory economy and system of student loans and public higher education, but by the full weight of the climate crisis falling on their heads. the number of young people who are locked into student loan debt which is essentially unpayable for most people, and it is not just young people, that's 43 million people trapped by student loan debt. that is enough to win a three-way presidential race. because 43 million is a plurality in the presidential vote. that's a lot of people who could be mobilized. when i am asked, aren't you just going to spoil the election? i make the point that we are looking at some pretty serious stuff here. the american people are at a
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unique moment in history. we have never had such a majority support for truly transformative change. unhappy,can people are distrust and dislike the two major party presidential candidates. this is not a time for the political pundits and party operatives to be telling the american people to be good little boys and girls and keep voting for the same parties that have grown people under the bus. we think it's really important to have that open conversation. and for my campaign and gary johnson's campaign to be on the ballot. i'm sorry, to be in the debates. there are four candidates in this election that will be on the ballot. in america we have a right not only to our vote, have a right to know who it is we can vote for. i will open it up. thank you very much. you are taking public
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financing. what would you say the green party is entitled to public financing? because it has not gotten that much support in previous elections? would you support expanding the matching limit? could bounce that question to the american people. do they think we should just have the same two? and we arereaming no seeing the republican party unravel and the democratic party moved to the right. we have one big corporate party right now and the american people are sick of a rigged economy and political system that delivers it. expandingr not simply the ceiling for public funding, we are talking about publicly funded elections. our democracy is too important
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to be privatized and put in the hands of big money donors or candidates. one should not be able to buy influence in our democracy at a time -- ever, but especially now when we are really looking our mortality in the face. we are looking at the consequences of blowback from catastrophic wars, the climate meltdown, the next meltdown of our economy which continues to and just the brink, look at the new nuclear arms race. $1ack obama basically said trillion on a whole new generation of nuclear weapons. we should be in the process of rapidly retiring all nuclear weapons and joining what looks to be coming out of the united call to which is a new ban nuclear weapons.
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the other nations of the world are beginning to move outside of the nuclear nations who have neglected their responsibility to move towards disarmament for too long. that's the bandwagon we need to get on. what do you make of a presidential campaign that has a many ways devolved into contest of personalities as opposed to a discussion of the issues? >> i think it speaks volumes about what has happened to our political system. this didn't just happen overnight. this is where we have been going. we see it in a new horrifying extreme where the news becomes the transition inside of the trump campaign. really? is that we are talking about in this election? changes of staff? our future is imperiled right now.
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there are more important things to be talking about. personally as someone who has struggled with this system for many years first as a physician and then recognizing that we were not going to cure what ails us inside of this very sick political system, that if we want to fix the things that are literally threatening life, limb, and survival, we need to heal our very topological -- pathological political system. in this election we are seeing that political system reach its logical conclusion. it is bought and paid for by big interests. we saw it in the sanders campaign. they could raise up a principled agenda but it was sabotaged like every other principled rebel in the democratic party over the past many decades. they are allowed to be seen and heard for a little while and
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then they get taken down and disappeared, out of the democratic convention. bernie sanders was relegated to a footnote and we saw the e-mails about how the dnc had been working in collusion with hillary's staff and members of the media to tilt the playing field in that direction. this is a systemic problem. i think the discussed the american people -- disgust the american people are feeling right now has reached a breaking point. people are looking for a new voice that is not part of this compromised demo-republican party. there is a critical conversation waiting to be held. >> if what you say is true, why aren't you doing better? >> it may have something to do with the fact that according to the new york times, donald trump
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had gotten $2 billion worth of free media. hillary clinton had gotten $1 billion worth of free media. bernie sanders had about half as much. we have had essentially zero up until this past week when we have five minutes here and there with the exception of the cnn town hall where we were trending number one on twitter. every indication is people are really hungry for more. polls show that very few people have even heard of our campaign. and they have no idea what it represents. think that our uninteresting to the american public, try us. let us have that exposure. bring us into a debate and let's see what happens. >> two questions in terms of
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your practical hurdles. the commission on presidential debates and their 15% criteria based on corporate polls. isn't part of the that some people who agree with you are effectively driving down your numbers? noam chomsky is people,lly telling you've got to vote for clinton in so-called swing states. how do you get past that hurdle when people who presumably agree with you on the issues are effectively driving down your numbers? let me take that in two pieces.
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the league of women voters when they quit, and the commission came in and took over, they quit because they said this is a fraud being perpetrated on the american public. because of the inordinate power of the commission which is essentially representatives of the democratic and republican parties. if the parties controlling the debates in order to silence political opposition. this is not what democracy looks like in the first place. saying the commission has essentially granted themselves the power to control the questioning because of their control over the questioner. control over the candidates who are eligible. and control over the audience so they could create the illusion that there is popular support for things like more corporate tax breaks for the transpacific partnership or expanding wars. they can basically create the
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movie to make it look like there is popular support. we consider the commission illegitimate. it is not a public commission and its name is very deceptive. we think 15% is a disservice to the american public. especially at a time when people are saying that they are extremely unhappy with the two choices and the political parties in the presidential election. we think there should be another basis for inclusion and that is the right of voters to know about who their choices are. and that any candidate who is on the ballot in enough states that they could numerically when the election, voters have a right to know about those candidates. we have challenged in the court of law without great expectations that that was going to go anywhere and it hasn't, there is still the court of public opinion.
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in my home state of massachusetts we have been able to fight our way into debates in which i did very well and the public had enormous resonance with what they heard. yanked out of the debates because a public interest point of view is a great threat to the establishment. thousands of people are signing up and i encourage anyone who is interested to go to jill 2016.com and sign up to be part of the debates. in the last election my running mate and i were arrested simply for trying to get into the grounds of a college where a debate was being held. i think in the future we won't be going alone. >> in terms of people driving down your numbers? >> ok. yes. tellslitics of fear that
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you you have to vote against what you are afraid of rather than for what you truly believe. noam chomsky has supported me in my home state when he felt safe to do so. i think my agenda is far closer to his than hillary clinton but he subscribes to the politics of fear. growing up today do not see the democratic party as the party of the new deal. they don't see it as the party that is going to say us. they see it as the party of fracking, of opening up the arctic, that pushed for the transpacific pipeline until they were forced by the grassroots to stop, the party of expanding assassination, the party of immigrant deportations and detentions and night raids. donald trump says terrifying things.
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hillary clinton has an extremely troubling record from leading the charge into the catastrophe send themo saying, home to the children fleeing violence in latin america which she herself had a hand in by giving the thumbs-up to the coup in honduras, ushering in incredible violence from which tens of thousands of are fleeing. hillary has been a major proponent of fracking around the world and has just appointed ken salazar, the best friend of fracking, to her transition team. the climate is not looking so good under a hillary clinton administration. is terrible but the signs on fracking says it is probably just as bad. it's not ok to open up an entirely new generation of infrastructure now that is going anothers to fracking to
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40 years. it is basically curtains the minute we do that. there are many people who take a different point of view and recognize that the politics of fear delivered everything we were afraid of. to the reasons you were told vote for the lesser evil because you didn't want the meltdown of the climate, expanding wars, off shoring jobs. that is exactly what we have gotten. democracy needs a moral compass. it's not enough to vote against. we need an affirmative agenda. especially at a time when there are enough people that we can actually drive that agenda forward. we could potentially win this race. i'm not holding my breath but i'm not ruling it out. this is a crazy election. it's not over until it's over. i want to get your thoughts -- you have mentioned access of
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money and accessing politicians. what are your thoughts on the latest batch of hillary clinton e-mails from the state department? >> exactly. i think it's not a coincidence that hillary has the numbers that she has as one of the most ntrusted presidential candidates ever. the more of a we see went on in the secretary of state's office which hillary attempted to cover up. to sort of take off the record by using her private server. this is sort of the elephant in the room around the private server. why did she put national security information and the names of cia secret agent? why were they put at risk? she was clear about this in the expect or general's report -- inspector general's report makes the point that this was not a mistake. us was by intention and taylor he told her staff -- this was by
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intention and hillary told her staff she did not want her information to be accessible to foia. where did her personal financial and whereiness end did the official business of the state begin? the mere fact that half of the volume in the number of her e-mails she classified as private, if someone is on the job and half of their e-mails are for their private affairs, there is something wrong here. either the private is leaking over into the public or someone is doing their private business on company time. my mind the continuing revelation about the influence of the clinton campaign donors,
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a special deals they got, lucrative favors, weapons deals to saudi arabia, just looking at yemen alone, the incredible war crimes being committed by saudi arabia with our weapons not to mention our assistance, this is really a national scandal. the fact that money was flowing to the clinton foundation as these very regrettable and harmful decisions were being made, i think regardless of the legality this just raises serious questions about judgment and character that in my view are just not compatible with someone you want to trust as the leader of the country. ank you. >> dana milbank with the washington post segment of the corporate media. i have a conundrum i want to
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present to you. anduld write about today others could report here about what an important issue climate change is. and we would publish it or broadcast it. the fact is very few people will read it. they will go read or view stories about trump's staff machinations or clinton's e-mails. i'm not sure the issue is necessarily a corporate media but what people are demanding. why is that? what is the way around that if there is one? >> let me say we have seen this problem get worse and worse. i think it's a multi factor problem. is when we had greater diversity of candidates opinion, there is an opportunity to have a more diverse discussion. right now so many people are tuned out the election and out of the political system in
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general because they are accustomed to being ignored by that system. and because not only ignored by the discussion but ignored by the agenda. was bernie sanders tuned out? i don't think so. i think he had more attention from the american public than just about anyone at least from my point of view. was the to me like he guy saying that the emperor had no clothes and everyone was agreeing with him. even trump supporters were agreeing with him. majoritywed that the of trump supporters are not motivated by supporting trump. they are motivated by not liking hillary clinton. let's give them another choice besides donald trump as an alternative to hillary clinton. let's have a more diverse discussion. i think the more we have diverse media outlets the better. the more media has been consolidated the harder it has
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been to have a truly diverse and open discussion. those are some of the things i would fix going forward. i think it's not rocket science. we did have a very open discussion just a few months ago. we had a candidate who was engaging a whole other body of voters and even that was very early in the campaign. as we get closer i think the power of advocating for jobs, for canceling student debt, that's going to spread like wildfire. 4-7% inrunning between the polls prior to any big media coverage. why is that happening? in my view it is because there is a generation which is really desperate for another way forward. they are networked on the internet and that word is getting out. if we could get there without any coverage i think all caps are off as to what will happen -- bets are off as to what will happen in the debate.
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there are going to be a lot of people voting who have you at the top of the ticket but do not have a green candidate for congress. would you recommend they vote for one party in particular? >> i would say to look carefully at the candidate. don't just look at what they say. if you look at what they say there is very little difference between according to some online candidate informational site. there's not much difference between hillary clinton and myself. that's if you take what hillary clinton said as what hillary clinton will do rather than looking at her record. it's really important to look at the record of the candidate and who is funding them. the usual. you would be surprised how many green candidates there are running for congress, senate, state offices, city councils.
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we have a lot of down ballot candidates. say if the black swan event were to happen and we wound up in the white house, i think we would find a lot of people ready to move with this agenda inside the democratic party who feel like they have been held hostage by prevailing politics. after we saw the internal process both in the democratic , whichublican party suggests internal crisis in both parties, don't you think that would be a good thing for to look moreyours appealing to american voters? that doesn't seem to be the case. how do you explain this
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irrational scenario? >> i think it has a lot to do with the fact that people haven't heard about our campaigns and we don't know who we are. the new york times did a study to were three months ago which i may have mentioned before you came in. it bears repeating. ago, donald months trump had received $2 billion worth of free coverage. hillary clinton $1 billion. bernie sanders half as much. and we had received essentially zip. yet we are still running in the polls without any coverage which is pretty unprecedented. belowe had our first peek the curtain on cnn for a full hour town hall meeting last week , we were trending number one on twitter. we were number two on nielsen
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ratings. there was every indication that people really hungering for more. what would you think --? >> we are hoping to begin more town hall meetings on primetime tv and hold more townhall forums with myself and possibly with my running mate. so that we can actually be seen and heard by the american public. right now they don't have a clue who we are or even that we exist. game is allthe about empowering the american voter for what they are demanding right now. which is more voices and more choices. i think just by empowering the american voter to be the driver in our democracy and in our elections that's what we have to do. fall where chips they may. we have to start with an inclusive and open democratic discussion. well wen't have it now
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are looking our mortality in the face and the american people are saying this stinks, if we cannot change the discussion now, when in heaven's name are we going to change it? it's got to be now. >> two more questions and then we will go to closing remarks. >> you mentioned how racial disparities play a role in who ends up on the front lines of the climate crisis. could you expand on that in relation to your experience in louisiana? >> sure. what we saw was kind of like instant replay in katrina. where so many of those hit hardest were poor people in communities of color. butonly they were hit hard,
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the relief didn't come. even years later the relief didn't come. when i was there in new orleans for the 10 year anniversary, the numbers at that time reflected that about half of the african-american population had not been able to return even 10 years later because that's not where the rebuilding happened. it's not where the salvage happened. we could see that in the neighborhood we were walking and driving through. these were largely families of color that were just helping each other. and volunteers were coming in. the green party was mobilizing from around the state to help people out. because the needed relief just wasn't coming. worried. were very we were seeing refugees from katrina that were there in the shelter. and the shelter was not even an official shelter so it is not receiving report from fema.
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it's not getting drop-offs of supplies and food because it's not a recognized shelter. it wasn't just katrina. it was also superstorm sandy were poor communities and african-american and latino communities that are really the t and theget hi last to get help. we see a compounding of the crisis of racial justice together with the crisis of the environment. we need attention to both. i want to mention briefly in north dakotath the sioux. in northing rock sioux dakota who are trying to protect their land as another disenfranchised group. whoother people of color are trying to save their water supply, their traditional lands,
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as well as the climate. we have always relied on indigenous people to be the caretakers of our climate and of our ecosystem. and they are basically resisting pipelineer very toxic of the worst kind of fuel that's going to run over their water supply and put their lands very much at risk. i want to stand in solidarity with them. there are about 1000 native americans that have gathered at their tribal lands in an effort to resist the pipeline. what they are doing is trying to katrina,ent the next the next superstorm sandy, the next louisiana floods down the line. because they are only getting worse and more frequent and more devastating. they exemplify the kind of
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courage and foresight that we need and the kind of community spirit that we need in order to stop this crisis from barreling down on us. which it is right now. thank you. when we spoke yesterday you talked about the need for a truth and reconciliation commission. could you expand on that? >> thank you. i think this pertains not only to the issue of environmental racism, to the issue of police violence and xenophobia. we are a country that is armed and ready to shoot. and we are the most violent country in the world with the most shootings and violent deaths at the hands of police and beyond the hands of police as well. we have a violent problem which goes hand in hand with our
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problem of fear and mistrust and hate. unfortunately we are seeing fanned rightbeing now in this election. the flames of hate and fear are being intensified where we need to be moving in the opposite direction. we need to be having a facilitated discussion. we need to be able to have a frank discussion about race, the legacy of racism. in particular, many people say, slavery ended. it ended but then it became lynching. and then it became jim crow. and then it became redlining. and then it became segregation, the war on drugs, mass incarceration, and police violence, which is really just the tip of an iceberg. there is a deep underlying problem here.
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and it's not only the culture of policing and the broken windows policing that creates very aggressive policing. the culture of that has to be changed and the training of police has to be changed. communities need to be in charge of their police instead of police in charge of their communities. we need citizen review panels with the power of subpoena. we need to hold perpetrators accountable through investigations of every death at the hands of police. there are things we need to do about that violence. we also need a truth and reconciliation commission. we also need reparations to address this historic and compounded burden of economic disparity. so that violence is not only at the hands of an occupying police force. violence is also taking place economically right now. we know that just living while black confers a seven year loss of life. if you compound that with poor
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education which also tends to run in communities of color, it's another seven-year loss of life. there are real consequences to the cumulative historic burden. it's not just african-americans. we need to look at the burden of discrimination fear and hate against people of color, muslims,s, latinos, native americans and so on. we need to facilitate a discussion at the community level that includes art and music and storytelling and the things that enable us to humanize each other to each other. this isn't rocket science. there's a whole method for doing this. for helping us build trust and make friends and become a common community which we must do if we are to solve any of the problems we are currently struggling with. thank you very much. >> we are just about at 11:00. i thank you all for coming. if you have not gotten a card
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from me, please see me. >> thank you very much. i really appreciate your attention. >> our live coverage of the green party nominee jill stein talking about what she saw
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during her recent tour of baton rouge. also talked about recovery efforts underway. touching on climate issues and her candidacy for president. she is a third-party candidate and we are opening the phone lines to get your take on the impact of third-party candidates in this race. what is your likelihood of for ag -- of voting third-party candidate? the phone numbers are on your screen. we have a separate line for members of the green party.
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again, receiving your phone calls on candidate jill stein's presidency. cook from the national journal is running a story looking at the likelihood -- the likely turn out, that is of the election and he said this race seems to have stabilized to the probability of hillary clinton beating donald trump is very high but the margin is tough to predict as is the rate of voter demographically, donald trump has painted himself into a corner. that doesn't mean there is no way for him to escape but it will require agility to pull it off. storyn read that entire written by charlie cook from the national journal.
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any of what jill stein had to say, we will show it to you again shortly after we finish with your phone calls. cnn reporting that donald trump is postponing a major immigration speech he was set to deliver thursday in colorado as his campaign continues to fine tune the immigration policy. the decision came after mr. trump, whose hard-line policies appeal to many republican voters, met with the hispanic advisory board. he said he wanted to come up with a fair but firm immigration policy. to your calls now. the first call is from cedar hill, texas. on the others line. caller: hello?
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host: go ahead. you are jc? caller: correct. thank you for taking my call. --arding chill time regarding jill stein, i think she did a good job speaking. supporting gary johnson. as i am a libertarian but jill stein, she is definitely the second-best cannot in the race. issuesth her on social and that.
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conservative values. host: sorry to cut you off. now to arkansas on the democrats line. caller: hello? i was like to thank you for taking my call. stein. in late on jill i will not be voting for a third-party candidate because i want my vote to count and i a third-party -- they don't have the money or the funds or anything. so i will be voting for hillary clinton. thank you very much for taking my call. two christian in lexington, kentucky calling on the green party line. caller: good morning. i think jill was fantastic as
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always. -- she is moving steadily in the polls. a question on the sugar and slavery -- i neared bond. question was on restitution to people of all communities. [indiscernible] to help fund education and community development -- government bonds issued. [indiscernible] of bondsn worth available for education. just a thought. in daytona, is florida on the republican line. caller: hi, thank you for
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c-span. i have to say, if it were not for c-span, i don't know what we would do with the media, in general. and i don't just mean the liberal media. even fox news, they go so far right. i am a diehard donald trump supporter. and i am proud of it. but this lady is truly impressive. were wish that the media willing to give her and gary johnson and other candidates more airtime. why can't we see all the candidates? 15% in the popular voting polls, that is arbitrary. everybody's polls are all over the map. all four of these candidates get on the stage together and then let us shop as consumers.
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let us hire the person we want to hire. again, thank you for c-span. god bless you. host: another green party caller. ed is calling in from michigan. fromr: hello, i am calling greater grand rapids. i have been a longtime blue collar supporter of the democrats. but this year i will vote for the green party because i think the democratic party has deserted me in the labor. good general motor plants in the grand rapid area. they are gone. we have a private large company. of theve taken away all
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good benefits for their employees. , i feel that -- we are not going to come back with this economy. just like ross perot said, the good jobs are being sucked out of this country. and i voted for bernie sanders. i worked for bernie sanders. michigan but hillary clinton got 20 more delegate votes in the convention. superdelegatesat -- the senators i voted for are not going to receive my vote no longer. thank you very much. host: taking your calls on the impact of third-party
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candidates. dele from new york. caller: thank you so much for c-span to speak on behalf of the third-party candidates. jill stein's remarks. i am a strong supporter of hillary clinton. we know that the third-party candidates usually hurt the democratic candidate. this with ralph nader's campaign and ross perot's campaign. and we saw it repeatedly so it is not a new issue. it is not something that is going to change. because the system is functioning and has been functioning for 200 years. who hope that the people are serious about having a woman president wilson word mrs. clinton. dr. stein the best.
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i hope we can learn more about her background, training, education and political activism in the past. she is an impressive individual and i think c-span for giving us beautiful coverage of the political candidates. the conventions and everything. the public needs the information that your network is giving us on the road to the white house. i applaud you. host: we will say on the east coast and hear from chris in somers point, new jersey on the green party line. caller: hello. i support jill stein. i'm tired of people saying third-party candidates. it is the green party. the libertarian party. of 50% are outrageous because they are controlled by the democrats and republicans. as jill stein policies,
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everyone says her policies are too bankrupt america. no. we start taking the money to the subsidies that we pay to the pharmaceutical companies and to israel and we keep the money here. we reduce the military budget by half and we would still have the strongest military. we need to stop fighting everybody in the world. anyway, we take all of those people who are manufacturing and wed warlike weapons put them into green technologies. so we can help the whole planet and help our country and get people into working. so people will not be losing their jobs. thank you for taking my call. you go, have you voted in support of the green party in the past? caller: i have always been independent. host: catherine in michigan on the independent line. caller: hi.
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i want the democratic party to know that i was a democrat for over 40 years. bernie sanders went out, i was amazed. he was saying all of the things i have been thinking for years. then we have so much election fraud that has not been discussed by the mainstream media. people that were taken off the voter rolls. in california put where they had to do a provisional ballot. who is discussing this? stein is who i am voting for. the democratic party. i left them because i decided i am no longer going to vote for the lesser of two evils. -- when sheill says says hillary clinton does those things -- they are worried about trump saying he is going to do
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things, she is right. to think so frustrated we will be involved in more wars and training more people to hate us. all we have become is some kind , acorporate -- i don't know corporate state. we are no longer a democracy. the two-party system -- i have looked at other systems. is our-party system democracy. they are keeping it tight but both parties are so into corporations that they have forgotten about all of us out here who live a normal life. i am outacher and there. i see these kids that come to school and the haves and have-nots are a big divide that is getting bigger. have kids you have everything and kids who don't have very much. to see that change.
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i believe strongly in jill stein. the guy who came from grand rapids who said he is no longer voting for the senators the kos -- senators because they put their votes -- i am with him, one hundred percent. i am not going to back those people. i am no longer to give money to the dnc because i am no longer a democrat. i will look for green party candidates wherever they are. host: how long have you been a teacher? i have been at this school for 23 years but i have been a teacher for 27 years. host: what do you teach? caller: i am an art teacher. alabama onto mike in the democrat line. caller: thank you for taking my call. i have been a democrat all my want i definitely don't
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trump. thank you for taking my call. , she isanda is in texas a republican. caller: i have been a republican my whole life. think you for taking my call. the year that this is the citizens will be able to voice their opinion and make it count because we now have mediar and all of these channels that are not the television. and paid for by the television. i believe that it is time for us to take a good look at the house, the senate -- make sure that we have term limits put in. career politicians should not be allowed anymore. it is not what the founders originally intended. you are supposed to have a job. if you did well with what you
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did, you say ok, it is time to give back. you go to washington to do something and then you get out and go back to your life. supposed to just ride and ride and ride. voting to start affirmative's. -- ig the affirmative's will be voting for kerry johnson. johnson.ry i need to learn more about jill stein but i have read a lot .bout gary johnson i believe they should all be at the debate. ctvtwo-party system is like for the united states. paralysis -- thank you so much. are crossingd you
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party lines. you are going to vote for jill stein -- i'm sorry, terry johnson -- gary johnson. have you ever crossed party lines before? caller: i have. i have written in ralph nair several times. i also understand that right now if youk at my family and really want to make a change, don't hold your nose. don't hold your nose and vote. actually take a good look and vote for who you want to actually represent you. host: our final call will be from california on the independent line. aaron is calling from california. hi, thank you for taking my call. opinion -- i try to vote for
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the person. however. i think we spent too much time and energy worrying about the president,, even though he is head of the country, has no real power. we need some kind of way to put a term limit on our congressman. those are the guys who sit there and make the decisions. the president can go in there with good ideas but if you can't get congress to follow him, it doesn't do much good. i know right now, they have to be the one to do it. and we probably won't ever get that to happen. until they get that to happen, it will be the same thing because i think both parties tell us one thing on tv and they probably go out to dinner together. so until we can do something about our president, put those
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in their who want to go in and do something. host: we appreciate your call and all of the calls. we will show you jill stein's remarks again from the national press club from a few moments ago. we will lead to it with pictures of president obama and first lady michelle obama as they left toittle bit earlier today tour the damage in louisiana. we will have live coverage of the president this afternoon around noon, eastern. after the president, we will show you jill stein.
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jill stein: thank you all so much for being here today. i really appreciate your attention to these very critical issues that are converging in baton rouge, louisiana which are really symptomatic of a crisis across the country. first, i just want to say a quick word about baton rouge and in particular denim springs , where we have just returned from. we had the honor of being escorted through some of the most tragically struck areas of baton rouge where essentially there has been no recovery and almost nothing in the way of services. from the point of view of the residents in denham springs, at least in the neighborhood we were able to see, this is another case of very unequal recovery. offact, one of the residents
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the shelter that we visited was actually a displaced person from katrina and from new orleans who had never been able to return to new orleans because the recovery there was also a case of unequal recovery. their feeling was the services on the part of fema and the nonprofits were not coming to their neighborhood whether you are talking about help gutting their homes, food relief, services with laundry to be able to wash their filthy materials. just help trying to salvage their precious memories and their precious memories and lifetime possessions. we saw out on the street not only furniture, bedding, cabinets, walls and so on but the mementos of their lives and of their children.
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including sports trophies and photos and things of that sort. this was clearly a very wrenching moment for them. they felt incredible strength and courage from the generosity of the community. one of the women we spoke to had been staying in a neighbor's house who had taken 22 people that were displaced on their street. we were hosted by the louisiana green party and their connections to some of the impacted people and many of the nonprofit groups. batoning "together rouge," north baton rouge disaster relief, the mutual aid disaster relief, and 510 denham springs which is a gofundme effort to support the neighbors trying to salvage their homes.
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those were the main groups we were working with. their resilience and strength and optimism was really incredible. it is of interest that the shelter we visited, the lockhart center, was not an official shelter because there are not enough official shelters to go around. this community center was housing 12 families including some who had previously been displaced in katrina. it is also of interest that one of the people who helped get that shelter going was general honore, who was in charge of the federal relief effort, the state or federal military who had come in and finally brought order to the new orleans relief effort.
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and here he was, kind of doing the same thing on a smaller scale in baton rouge. as you probably know, there are something like 100,000 people who have filed for federal relief. most of the people i think were not covered by insurance because this was not a flood zone. just looking at the larger sense of this, we have a climate emergency that is really taking place in the headlines all over the country right now. both the floods, which are not limited only to louisiana but we have seen the recent floods in arizona, west virginia, texas. we are seeing 500 year, some people call them 1000 year
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floods from these rains that are undoubtedly related to climate change. anyone storm cannot be definitively pegged to climate change but when you see so many, to set extreme levels, there is no question according to the scientists that this is a consequence of warmer air that holds more water. it's not just the floods. it's also the drought, the heat waves we have seen across much of the country, and the fires on the west coast -- which, at last count, had displaced some 82,000 people have been evacuated as of last week. in addition, there are these growing warnings about sea level rise. according to the foremost climate scientist, he is
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predicting yards worth, many yards worth of sea level rise as soon as 50 years from now. that would be an absolutely devastating sea level rise that would essentially wipe out coastal population centers including the likes of manhattan and florida and so on. all over the world, the entire country of bangladesh. this is not something we want to continue charging headlong towards. we know that even under the so-called all of the above climate plan of the obama administration, greenhouse gases have not just been rising, but the rate has been accelerating. this is why we call for essentially declaring a climate state of emergency. recognizing that we are facing
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civilization threatening events now. and the time window to prevent them is closing rapidly. this isn't something that can wait 15 years. if we are going to stop it, we need to stop it now because there is a long delay in the impact of those greenhouse gases. even the ones that are already there. i will talk about our solution very briefly in a moment. i just want to point out early that this underscores why we think an open debate is absolutely critical in this election. there will otherwise not be a candidate who is not taking money from the lobbyists, corporations, super pacs. we are the only such campaign that is not compromised by the banks,f big money, big
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fossil fuel giants, war profiteers. we are the only clean people powered campaign in this election. we have a unique ability to tell the truth. not only about climate change but the endless and expanding wars making us less secure while they cost us over half of our discretionary budget and about half of your income taxes yet we only make the terrorist threat bigger with each cycle of violence. there are a number of interrelated issues where we have the unique ability to tell the truth. in an election where we are seeing unprecedented realignment with the republican party unraveling at the seams with many prominent republicans now supporting hillary clinton. with hillary clinton appealing to the republicans to come into her big tent with her transition director being one of the
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lobbyists' lobbyists who is very close to the fossil fuel industry, who is close to the keystone pipeline and supports the transpacific partnership. we see party continuing to move to the right. leaving not only the bernie sanders supporters out in the cold but so much of the american public at a time when polls tell us that over half of americans , something like 57%, are very dissatisfied with their choices. a recent poll about a month ago found that 13% of the american public was satisfied with the two party approach to the presidential election. 13% are satisfied. wewe think at a time when are facing really critical issues in an election where we are not just deciding what kind of a work we will have, but whether we will have a world or
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not going forward, we think it is really critical, now more than ever that we have an open debate and put more choices in front of the american people who are clamoring for those choices. just a quick word about a solution here to this crisis. saying thatwe are we have to declare the state of emergency that we have. that emergency is compounded by existing racial disparities and economic disparities that put the most vulnerable on the front lines of the climate crisis as well as on the frontline of the economic crisis. we call for a joint solution that solves these problems. economic recovery has come to those on the top but not most americans. particularly younger americans who have essentially been hung out to dry in a system in which they are held hostage by staggering levels of debt that are unpayable in the current economy. and the climate crisis
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essentially exploding on their watch. so we call for a solution that addresses both the economic and climate crisis. deal soit a green new it is not a hypothetical, it is something based on something that we did in the great depression that helped us get out of it. that is an emergency jobs program that would create 20 million jobs, ensuring that every american who can work and wants to work has a decent paying job, a living wage job as part of this emergency mobilization, which we also call a wartime scale mobilization. atn pearl harbor was bombed the outset of the second world war, it took us six months, all of six months to massively mobilize our economy. we went from 0% on a wartime
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of gdp in the, course of six months. this, we cann do mobilize and we are calling for 100% clean renewable energy by 2030, which is what the science tells us is exactly what we need if we are to hold temperature rise to below 1.5 degrees centigrade. at essentially turn the tide on climate change. we would be creating jobs, particularly in the area of clean renewable energy, conservation, and efficient but also in the area of sustainable local food production because that is a major component of greenhouse gases, and also public transportation that is energy efficient, renewable he y powered-- renewable
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and what does tales -- dovetails with recreational transportation like sidewalks and bike paths. the good news about this is that it not only restarts the economy. it turns the tide on climate change. it also makes the war for oil obsolete when you have 100% clean, renewable energy for the foreseeable future. so they are in is how it pays for itself, through two mechanisms. the first i will mention has actually been articulated in very detailed engineering studies how we get so much healthier, and i can say this under authority as a medical doctor, we get so much healthier when we do away with the air pollutionand water and someone. when we do away with those
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exposures, which by the way cause 200,000 premature deaths in this country every year, 200,000, and make major contributions to the epidemic of asthma, heart attacks, stroke, and cancer. when you do the numbers and look at the contribution of fossil fuels to this public help burden -- health burden, we get so much healthier when we zero out insil fuels at our savings health care expenditure is enough to pay the cost of the transition over approximately a decade and a half, according to one of the prominent studies. itself in terms of health benefits but also if you then factor in the reduction in our military expenditures, our bloated and dangerous military which is not making us safer but demonstrably less safe, if we
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cut that military budget that puts hundreds of billions of dollars into the money that we need in order to undertake this green new deal. essentially it is a win win win for our economy, our climate, our health, and peace and international security. a couple of other real quick mentions, we also call for a just transition that ensures those workers in the industry and communities like in coal country, for example, that they will not lose jobs until those jobs are replaced or there will be transition support as the state of new york, for example adopted recently in their phasing out of their coal plants. they assured their workers of comparable financial support and benefit coverage for a period of two years. we would be looking for longer than two years.
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i will leave it at that. i will open it up to your questions, just underscoring that we are at a critical moment of transition on the climate as well as on related issues including global conflicts, which very often are related in fact to asset -- access to fossil fuel and their route to transportation. we are at a kind of a hail mary moment here where we very critically need to change course. we need to have an open and honest discussion about what we are actually facing, particularly our younger generation which has been held hostage not only by a predatory loansy, system of student and higher education, but by the full weight of the climate crisis that is falling on their head. the number of young people who
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are locked into student loan debt, which is essentially unpayable for most people, and it is not just young people, that is 43 million people trapped by student loan debt. that is enough to win a three-way presidential race because 43 million is a plurality in the presidential vote. that is a lot of people who could be mobilized. when i am asked, aren't you just going to spoil the election i make the point that we are looking at some pretty serious stuff. the american people are at a unique moment in history. we have never had such a majority support for truly transitional change. the american people are unhappy, distrust, and dislike the two major party presidential candidate. this is not a time for the political pundits and party operatives to be telling the american people to be good boys and girls and keep voting for
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the same parties that have demonstrably thrown people under the bus. we think it is important to have that conversation and for my came and for -- campaign and for gary johnson to be in the debate. there are four candidates in this election that will be on the ballot for just about every american voter. in america, we have a right not only to our vote and a right to know who it is we can vote for. i will open it up. thank you very much. taking public financing. every other major candidate has pulled out of that system. what would you say the green party is entitled to public financing because it has not gotten that much support? would you pay for expanding the limit? ms. stein: i think you could bounce that question to the
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american people. do they think we should have the same two? and we arereaming no seeing the republican party unravel and the democratic party moved to the right. we have one big corporate party and the american people are tired of being thrown under the bus. they are sick of the rigged economy and the rigged political system that delivers it. what we call for is not simply expanding the ceiling for public funding. we are talking about publicly funded elections. our democracy is too important to be privatized and put into the hands of big money, either big-money donors or candidate. one should not be able to buy influence in our democracy at a time -- ever, but especially now when we are looking our mortality in the face. whether you are looking at the consequences of blowback from these catastrophic wars, the
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the nexteltdown, meltdown of our economy which continues to teeter on the bank -- on the brink. the banks are bigger than ever and more prone to fail. look at the nuclear arms race where barack obama basically said a trillion dollars on a whole generation of nuclear weapons. we should be in the process of rapidly disbanding, retiring all nuclear weapons and joining what looks to be coming out of the united nations, which is a new call essentially to ban nuclear weapons. the other nations of the world are beginning to move outside the nuclear nations who have neglected their responsibility to move toward disarmament for too long. that is the bandwagon we need to get on. what do you make of a presidential campaign that has
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in many ways devolved into a contest of personalities as opposed to a discussion of the issues? speaksin: i think it volumes about what has happened to our political system, and this did not just happen overnight. this is where we have been going and we are seeing it in a horrifying extreme where the news becomes the transition inside the trump campaign. really? is that what we are talking about in this election, changes of staff? our future is imperiled right now and there are more important things for us to be talking about. i think personally as someone who has struggled with the system for many years, first as a physician and then as a physician recognizing that we were not going to cure what ails us inside the sick political system, that if we want to fix the things that are literally threatening life, limb, and ourival, we need to heal
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very pathological political system. election wein this are seeing that political system reach its logical conclusion. it is bought and paid for by big interest. we saw it in the sanders campaign. they could raise up a principled agenda but it was sabotaged like every other principled rebel in the democratic party over the past many decades. they are allowed to be seen and heard for little while and eventually get taken down and disappeared. bernie sanders was relegated to a foot note at the democratic national convention and then we saw how they had been working in collusion with hillary's staff and some members of the big media to tilt the playing field in that direction. this is a systemic problem and i
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think the discussed the american people are feeling -- the disgust the american people are they are looking for a new political voice that is not part of this compromise party and i say hold onto your hat. there is a critical conversation that is waiting to be held and once it against, i think all bets are off. >> if what you say is true, why aren't you doing better? ms. stein: it may have something to do with the fact that according to the new york times, donald trump had gotten $2 billion worth of free media, hillary clinton had gotten $1 billion worth of free media, and hillary clinton had about half as much. we have had zero until now when we have five minutes from here townhere except for the hall where we were trending number one on twitter.
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every indication is that people are hungry for more. polls show that very few people have even heard of our campaign and if they have heard of it, they have no idea what it represents. i would say to those who think to anur campaign is interesting to the american public, try us. let us have that exposure out there. bring us into a debate and let's see what happens. two questions in terms of your practical hurdles. one is the commission on presidential debates and their 15% criteria based on corporate goals. isn't part of the that some people who agree with you are effectively driving
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down your numbers? they are basically telling people that climate change, trump is a climate denier. you have got to vote for clinton in so-called swing states. how do you get past that hurdle when people who presumably agree with you on the issues are effectively driving down your numbers? let me take that in two pieces. first about the commission on presidential debates, the league of women voters when they quit and the commission took over, the league of women voters quit because they said this is a fraud being perpetrated on the american public because of the inordinate power of the commission, which is essentially representatives of the democratic and republican parties, the two parties
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controlling the debates in order to silence political opposition. this is not what democracy looks like. the league quit, saying the commission had essentially granted themselves the power to control the questioning because of their control over the questioner, control over the candidates who are eligible, and control over the audience so that they could create the illusion there is popular support for things like more corporate tax breaks or the transpacific partnership or these expanding wars. they can basically create the movie to make it look like there is popular support. we consider the commission illegitimate. it is not a public commission and its name is very deceptive. we think that 15% is a disservice to the american public, especially at a time when people are saying that they are extremely unhappy with the two choices and with the two
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political parties in the presidential election. we think there should be another basis for inclusion, and that is the right of voters to know about who their choices are. any candidate who is on the ballot in enough states that they could numerically win the election, voters have a right to know about those candidates. we have challenged in the court of law but did not create expectations that that would go anywhere, and it hasn't. but there is still the court of public opinion. in massachusetts we have been able to fight our way into debates where i did very well in the public had enormous resonance, and i was yanked out of the debate because the public interest point of view was a great threat to the political establishment. there are tools and strategies we will be using, thousands of people are signing up and i
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encourage anyone who is interesting to go to jill201 6.com and be part of the campaign to open the debates. i do not think the american people will take this sitting down. arrestedtion we were for trying to get into the grounds where the debate was held. in the future, we will not be going alone. >> in terms of people driving down your numbers? feartein: this politics of that tells you you have to vote against what you are afraid of verses for what you truly they have supported me in my home state when they felt safe to do so. i think it is fair to say my agenda is far closer to his then hillary clinton, but he subscribed to the politics of fear. maybe there is a generational think youngbut i
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people growing up today do not see the democratic party as the party of the new deal and do not see it as the party that is going to save us. they see it as the party of fracking, of opening up the arctic, that pushed for the transpacific heart and mine -- pipeline, the party of expanding wars and drone assassination. they see it as the party of immigrant deportation and detention and night raids. donald trump says terrifying things. hillary clinton actually has an extremely troubling record from leading the charge into the catastrophe of libya, to saying send them home to the children fleeing the violence in latin america, which she herself had a hand in. by giving the thumbs-up to the crew in honduras by ushering in that incredible violence with an influx of refugees.
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hillary has been a major proponent of fracking around the world and now has just appointed ken salazar, the best friend of fracking, to her transition team. the climate is not looking so good under a hillary clinton administration. but the science on fracking says that it is probably just as bad. open up ank to entirely new generation of infrastructure now that is going us to fracking for another 20 to 30 to 40 years. i think there are many people now who take a different point of view and who recognize that the politics of fear delivered everything we were afraid of. all of the reasons you were told to vote for the lesser evil is because they did not want the meltdown of the climate, all of the jobs offshore, that is
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exactly what we have gotten democracy needs a more compass. it is not enough to vote against. there are enough people that we could drive that agenda forward and potentially win this race. i am not holding my breath but i am not ruling it out. it is not over until it is over. >> i want to get your thoughts on, you mentioned access of money and accessing politicians. what are your thoughts on the mate -- latest batch of hillary e-mails from the state department? what should americans be thinking about that? ms. stein: it is not a coincidence that hillary has the number she has as one of the most un-trusted presidential candidates ever. the more we see of what went on in the secretary of state's
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office which hillary attempted , to sort of take off the record by using her private server, this is sort of the elephant in the room around the private server. why did she put national security information and the names of cia secret agents, why were they put at risk? she was clear about this in the inspector general's report. this was not a mistake, this was intention, and hillary told her staff she did not want her personal business to be example.e to intention, and for this is the disturbing thing -- where did her personal family business and and the official be -- business of the state begin? to me, the mere fact that half
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of her e-mails, half of the volume and number of her e-mails she classified as private, if someone is on the job and half of their e-mails are for their private affairs, there is something wrong here. is leakingprivate over into the public, or someone is doing their own private business on company time. to my mind, the continuing revelations about the influence of the clinton campaign donors, the special deals they got, the lucrative favors, the weapons deals with saudi arabia who we are now seeing, all else aside thebeing at yemen alone, war crimes being committed by saudi arabia with our weapons and assistance. this is really a national scandal. the fact that money was flowing to the clinton foundation as
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these very regrettable and harmful decisions were being made, i think regardless of the legality, this just raises serious questions about judgment and error that in my view are just not compatible with someone that you want to trust as the leader of the country. thank you. milbank with the washington post segment of the corporate media. i have a conundrum i want to present to you. anduld write about today report about what an important issue climate change is. we would publish it or broadcast it and the fact that very few people will read it, they will go read or view stories about trump's staff machinations or clinton's e-mails. i am not sure the issue is
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corporate media but what people are demanding. what -- why is that and what is the way around that if there is one? ms. stein: we have seen this problem get worse and worse. i think it is a multifactor problem. what we do know is that when we had greater diversity of candidate opinion, there is an opportunity to have a more diverse discussion. right now, so many people are tuned out of the election and out of the political system in general because they are accustomed to being ignored by their system, and because not only ignored by the discussion but ignored by the agenda. with -- was bernie sanders tuned out? i do not think so. i think he had more attention from the american public than anyone, from my point of view.
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it looked like he was the guy saying that the emperor had no clothes, and everyone was agreeing with him, even trump supporters. showed that polls the majority of trump supporters are not motivated by supporting trump, they are motivated by not liking hillary clinton. let's give them another choice besides donald trump as an alternative. what's have a more diverse discussion. the more we have diverse media outlets, the more that media has been consolidated the harder it has been to have a diverse and open discussion. those are some of the things i would fix going forward, but it is not rocket science. we had a very open discussion a few months ago because we had a candidate who was engaging another body of voters and that was early in the campaign. as we get closer, i think the power of advocating for jobs,
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for the right to a job, for canceling student debt, that is going to spread like a wildfire. we are running between 4% and 6% in the polls. prior to media coverage, that does not usually happen. in my view, because there is a generation that is really desperate for another way forward. that word is getting out. if we could get to 4% or 5% or 6% without any coverage, i think all bets are off when we get into the debate. >> there are going to be a lot of people voting that have you at the top of the ballot. would you recommend they vote for one party in particular, who would advance the goals you are working on? ms. stein: i was a look at the
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candidate and do not just look at what they say because if you look at what they say, there is very little difference according to some online candidate s'informational sites, there's not much difference between hillary clinton and myself. that is if you take what she says as what she will do rather than looking for her -- looking at her record. you would be surprised how many green candidates there are actually running for congress, for senate, for state offices, city council, etc.. we have a lot of candidates and i would say that if the black swan event were to happen in this age of black swans and we wound up in the white house, i think we would find a lot of people ready to move with this agenda inside the democratic party who feel they have been held hostage by prevailing
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politics. after what we saw in the would suggestss an eternal crisis in both parties -- internal crisis in both parties. do you think that would be a good thing for minor parties to look more appealing to american voters? that does not seem to be the case. how do you explain this, the feelings?- irrational ms. stein: a lot of people have not heard of our campaign and do not know who we are. the new york times did a study about two or three months ago. the --s repeating, that at the time, months ago donald
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trump received $2 billion worth of free coverage, hillary clinton $1 billion, and we had received essentially zip yet we are still running for the 6% in the poll without any coverage, which is pretty unprecedented. peak below our first the curtain -- peek below the curtain with the cnn town hall meeting, we were trending number one on twitter, number two on nielsen ratings. there was indication that people were hungering for more. >> what would you think would be necessary to gain more? ms. stein: we are hoping to begin some more town hall meetings on prime time tv, to hold more townhall forums with myself and possibly with my running mates so we can actually
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be seen and heard by the american public. right now, they do not have a clue who we are or that we exist. the name of the game is empowering the american voter for what they are demanding, which is more voices and more choices. they do not like they have got so just empowering the american voter to be the driver of our democracy and our election, that is what we have to do. let the chips fall where they may, but we have got to start with an inclusive and open democratic discussion. if we cannot have it now while we are looking our mortality in the face and the american people are saying, this stinks, if we cannot change the discussion now, when in heaven's name are we going to change it? it has got to be now.

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