Presidential Nominees Participate in Debate at Hofstra University CSPAN September 26, 2016 9:00pm-11:31pm EDT
clinton. this debate is sponsored by the presidential debates, a nonpartial nonpartisan organization. commissioner has drafted the format and the rules have been agreed to. dividedminute debate is into six segments, each 15 minutes long. topic areasre three tonight: achieving prosperity, america's direction, and securing america. start of each segment, i will ask the same lead-off question to both candidates, have up to ll each two minutes to respond. from that point until the end have an egment, we'll open discussion. the questions are mine, and have not been shared with the campaign's.or the the audience here in the room has agreed to remain silent so that we can focus on what the are saying. i will invite you to applaud, however, at this moment as we candidates, democratic nominee for president of the united states,
hillary clinton, and republican nominee for president of the donald j. trump. [cheering and applause] to ald trump: good luck you. lester holt: well, i don't us to cover all the issues of this campaign tonight there areind everyone two more presidential debates scheduled. we will focus on the issues voters tell us are most important. i am honored to have this role but this evening belongs to the and just as important to the american people, candidates, we look forward to hearing you policies and ur your positions as well as your visions and your values. let's begin. we're calling this opening segment "achieving prosperity"
central to that is jobs. there are two economic realities in america today. been a record six straight years of job growth and new census numbers show incomes have increased at a record rate after years of stagnation. inequality come remains significant and nearly half of americans are living paycheck. to beginning with you, secretary clinton, why are you a better to ice than your opponent create the kinds of jobs that will put more money into the pockets of american workers? hillary clinton: thank you, lester, and thanks to hofstra hosting us. the central question in this election is really what kind of country we want to be and what kind of future we'll build together. granddaughter's second birthday, so i think about this a lot. first, we have to build an that works for everyone, not just those at the top. jobs, eans we need new good jobs, with rising incomes. i want us to invest in you. invest in your
future. that means jobs in infrastructure, in advanced manufacturing, innovation and technology, clean renewable and small business, because most of the new jobs will come from small business. make the ave to economy fairer. that starts with raising the wage and also um guarantee finally equal pay for womens' work. i also want to see more companies do profit sharing. the profits,create you should be able to share in them, not just the executives at the top. do more to us to support people who are to balance family and work. i've heard from so many of you youut the difficult choices face and the stresses that you're under. have paid family leave, earned sick days. let's be sure we have affordable child care and debt-free college. how are we going to do it? we're going to do it by having their fair pay
share and close the corporate loopholes. tonight are on the stage together, donald trump and i. to be with s good you. we're going to have a debate we are talking about the important issues facing our country. you have to judge us. who can shoulder the immense awesome responsibilities of the presidency? can put into action the plans that will make your life better? will be able to earn your vote on november 8th. lester holt: secretary clinton, thank you. mr. trump, the same question to you. about putting more money into american workers. you have two minutes. donald trump: thank you, lester. our jobs are fleeing the country. they're going to mexico. they're going to many other countries. at what china is doing to our country in terms of making our product. devaluing their currency and there's nobody in our government to fight them and we have a very good fight
winning fight, because they're using our country as a piggybank to and many other countries are doing the same thing. good jobs, sing our so many of them. when you look at what's happening in mexico, a friend of mine who builds plants said it's the eighth wonder of the world. building some of the biggest plants anywhere in the world, some of the most sophisticated and best plants. with the united states, as you said, not so much. so ford is leaving. see that there's division, leaving. thousands of jobs, leaving michigan, leaving ohio. they're all leaving and we can't allow it to happen anymore. childcare is concerned and so many other things, i think hillary and i agree on that. disagree a little bit as to numbers and amounts and what we're going to do, but be talking about that later. but we have to stop our jobs from us.ng stolen we have to stop our companies
leaving the united states and with it, firing all of their people. you have to do is take a look at carrier air indianapolis.in they fired 1400 people. they're going to mexico. so many hundreds and hundreds doing this.s are we cannot let it happen. under my plan, i will be reducing taxes tremendously 15% for companies, small and big businesses. that's going to be a job creator like we haven't seen since ronald reagan. it's going to be a beautiful watch.to companies will come. they will build. they will expand. will start, and i look very, very much forward to doing it. we have to renegotiate our and we have to stop these countries from stealing our jobs.nies and lester holt: secretary clinton, would you like to respond? hillary clinton: i think that is an important issue. of course, we are 5% of the world's population. we have to trade with the other
and we need to have smart, fair trade deals. need to have ah, tax system that rewards work and not just financial transactions. and the kind of plan that donald has put forth would be economics all over again. in fact, it would be the most extreme version, the biggest tax cuts for the top percent of the people in this country than we've ever had. i call it trumped-up trickle down, because that's exactly what it would be. that is not how we grow the economy. we just have a different view what's best for growing the economy, how we make investments that will actually and rising s incomes. i think we come at it from somewhat different perspectives. i understand that. you know, donald was very and unate in his life, that's all to his benefit. with arted his business $14 million, borrowed from his father, and he really believes you help wealthy
people, the better off we'll be, and that everything will work out from there. buy that. i have a different experience. my father was a small businessman. worked really hard. he printed drapery fabrics on out tables where you pull those fabrics and he went down with the silk screen and dumped the paint in and took squeegee and kept going. so what i believe is the more we can do for the middle class, we can invest in you, your education, your skills, the better we will be off and the better we'll grow. that's the kind of economy i again. to see lester holt: let me follow up with mr. trump, if i can. you talked about creating 25 promised obs and you to bring back millions of jobs for americans. how are we going to bring back the industries that have left this country for cheaper labor overseas? how specifically are you going american manufacturers that you have to come back? donald trump: well, for one thing, and before we start on that, my father gave me a very small loan in 1975 and i built worth o a company that's
many, many billions of dollars with some of the greatest say ts in the world, and i that only because that's the kind of thinking our country needs. our country is in deep trouble. know what we're doing when it comes to devaluations and all of these countries all over the world, especially they're the best, the best ever at it. what they're doing to us is a very, very sad thing. so we have to do that. we have to renegotiate our trade deals. lester, they are taking our jobs. they're giving incentives. they're doing things that frankly we don't do. let me give you the example of mexico. they have a vat tax. we're on a different system. where we sell into mexico is a tax. where they sell an automatic 16% approximately. when they sell into us, there's tax. it's a defective agreement. a long en defective time, many years, but the politicians haven't done anything about it. now, in all fairness to secretary clinton, yes -- is that okay? good. very happy.to be
[laughter] it's very important to me. to secretary ss clinton, when she started talking about this, it was really very recently, she's years, oing this for 30 and why hasn't she made the agreements better? the nafta agreement is of the ve just because tax and many other reasons, but just because of the tax interrupt t: let me just a moment. donald trump: secretary clinton and others, as politicians, should have been doing this for now, because ight of the fact that we've created a movement. they should have been doing this for years. to our jobs and our country and our economy look, we owe $20 trillion. it any longer, lester. lester holt: back to the question, though. how do you specifically bring jobs, american manufacturers, how do you make them bring the jobs back? donald trump: the first thing let the jobs 't leave. the companies are leaving. i could name -- there are thousands of them. leaving. and they're leaving in bigger numbers than ever. and what you do is you say,
you want to go to mexico or some other country, good luck. we wish you a lot of luck. going you think you're to make your air conditioners or your cars or your cookies or you make and bring them into our country without a tax, you're wrong and once you tax you're going to have to them coming in -- and our politicians never do this, special they have interests and the special interests want those companies to leave because in many cases companies.the so what i'm saying is we can stop them from leaving. we have to stop them from that's a big, big factor. lester holt: let me let in. etary clinton hillary clinton: well, let's stop for a second and remember ago.re we were eight years we had the worst financial crisis, the great recession, the worst since the 1930s. that was, in large part, because of tax policies that wealthy, axes on the failed to invest in the middle took their eyes off of wall street and created a
perfect storm. fact, donald was one of the people who rooted for the housing crisis. back in 2006: gee, i hope it does collapse because then i can go in and buy some and make some money. well, it did collapse. donald trump: that's called way. ness, by the hillary clinton: 9 million people lost their jobs. 5 million people lost their trillion dollars in family wealth was wiped out. come back from that abyss, and it has not been on the o we're now precipice of having a potentially much better but the last thing we need to do is to go back to the policies that failed us in the first place. independent experts have looked at what i've proposed and what donald's proposed, and basically they've that if his tax plan -- which would blow up the over $5 trillion, and instances some
disadvantage middle class families compared to the into hy, were to go effect, we would lose 3.5 million jobs and maybe have recession. they've looked at my plan and said, okay, if we can do to get it d i intend done -- we will have 10 million more new jobs, because we will investments where we can grow the economy. take clean energy. thee country is going to be clean energy super power of the 21st century. donald thinks that climate change is a hoax perpetrated by the chinese. real. nk it's donald trump: i did not, i do not say that. hillary clinton: and i think it's important that we grip and deal with it, both at home and abroad. and here's what we can do. a billion loy a half more solar panels. we can have enough clean energy to power every home. a new modern electric grid. that's a lot of jobs. that's a lot of new economic activity. so i've tried to be very specific about what we can and
do, and i am determined that we're going to get the economy really moving again, building on the progress we've made over the last eight years, back to what ng got us in trouble in the first place. lester holt: mr. trump? she talks about solar panels. solar ested in the company, our country, that was a disaster on that one. now, look, i'm a great big believer in all forms of energy but we're putting a lot of people out of work. our energy policies are a disaster. our country is losing so much in terms of energy, in terms of paying off our debt. what you're trillion o do with 20 in debt. the obama administration, from the time they've come in, is 230 years' worth of debt and he's topped it. he's doubled it in the course eight years, 7.5 years to be semiexact. you this. tell we have to do a much better job jobs, and we ur
have to do a much better job at giving companies incentive to companies or to expand, because they're not doing it. and all you have to do is look and look at ohio and look at all of these places of their jobs and their companies are just the ng leaving, they're gone. and hillary, i ask you this, you've been doing this for 30 years. why are you just thinking about these solutions right now? 30 years you've been doing it and now you're just starting to think about solutions. me, i will bring back jobs. you can't bring back jobs. hillary clinton: well, actually, i have thought about bit. quite a donald trump: yeah, for 30 years? [laughter] hillary clinton: well, not quite that long. i think my husband did a pretty good job in the 1990s. i think a lot about what worked make it work n again. donald trump: well, he approved nafta. trade deal worst ever approved. hillary clinton: incomes went up for everybody. manufacturing jobs also went up
1990s, if we're actually going to look at the facts. when i was in the senate, i had of trade deals that came before me. and i held them all to the same test. will they create jobs in america? will they raise incomes in america? for our they good national security? some of them i voted for. a e biggest one, multinational one known as against.i voted and because i hold the same standards as i look at all of these trade deals. but let's not assume that trade is the only challenge we have economy. i think it is a part of it, and i've said what i'm going to do. special g to have a prosecutor. we're going to enforce the trade deals we have, and we're going to hold people accountable. when i was secretary of state, we actually increased american globally 30%. them to china 50%. so i know how to really work to get new jobs and to get exports
help to create more new jo jobs. donald trump: but you haven't done it in 30 years or 26 years. hillary clinton: i've been a senator. donald trump: you haven't done it. hillary clinton: and i have secretary of state and i have done it. donald trump: your husband signed nafta which was one of ever orst things that happened to the manufacturing industry. hillary clinton: that is your opinion. donald trump: you go to new england, ohio, pennsylvania, go anywhere you want, secretary clinton,
and you will see devastation, where manufacturing is down 30, 40, sometimes 50%. worst trade deal maybe ever signed anywhere but certainly ever signed in this country and now you want to approve transpacific partnership. you were totally in favor of it. then you heard what i was is, and you bad it said i can't win that debate. but you know that if did you approve that, and that would be almost as bad as nafta. nothing will ever top nafta. hillary clinton: well, that is just not accurate. it once it was finally negotiated and the terms were laid out. i wrote about that in -- theald trump: you called it
gold standard. you called it the gold standard of trade deals. it's the finest deal you've ever seen. hillary clinton: no. donald trump: and then you heard what i said about it and all of a sudden you were it. inst
hillary clinton: well, donald, i know you live in your own reality [laughter] that is not the fact. the facts are, i did say i hoped it would be a good deal it was negotiated which i was not responsible for, i included it wasn't. i wrote about that is it trump: so president obama's fault? is it president obama's fault. hillary clinton: i wrote that you even announced. donald trump: is it president obama's fault? because he's pushing it. hillary clinton: there are views about what's good for our country, our in nomy, and our leadership the world. and i think it's important to look at what we need to do to going again.omy that's why i've said new jobs with rising incomes, in more tax not cuts that would add 5 trillion debt. rs to the donald trump: but you have no plan. hillary clinton: oh, i do. donald trump: secretary, you have no plan.
hillary clinton: i have written about it. it's called "stronger together." you can pick it up tomorrow at or an airport near you. but it's because i see this. growth, to have strong fair growth, sustained growth. we also have to look at how we families balance their responsibilities at home and the responsibilities of business. so we have a very robust set of plans, and people have looked plans, have our concluded that mine would create 10 million jobs and lose us 3.5 million us -- nd expose you are going to approve one of the biggest tax cuts in history. you are going to approve one of the biggest tax increases in history. you are going to drive business out. your regulations are a disaster, and you're going to increase regulations all over the place. by the way, my tax cut is the biggest since ronald reagan. it.m very proud of it will create tremendous numbers of new jobs. but regulations, you are going businesses these
out of existence. when i go around -- lester, i tell you this. i've been all over. and when i go around, despite things that the business that people like the most is the fact that i'm cutting regulation. have regulations on top of regulations, and new companies and old companies are going out of business, and you want to increase the regulations and make them even worse. i'm going to cut regulations. i'm going to cut taxes, big-league, and you are going to raise taxes big-league, end of story. lester holt: let me get you to pause right there because we're going to move into the next segment. hillary clinton: that can't -- i kind of assumed that there would be a lot of these claims, and so -- donald trump: facts. page have taken the home of my web site, hillaryclinton.com and turned checker. a fact so if you want to see in real time what the facts are, please go and take a look.
take a look : and at mine also. hillary clinton: it will not and a penny to the debt your plans would add $5 trillion to the debt. proposed would cut regulations and streamlined them for small businesses. would be ve proposed paid for by raising taxes on wealthy because they have made all the gains in the it's time d i think that the wealthy incorporations paid their fair share to support this. opened holt: you just the next segment. donald trump: could i just finish? our web site. take a look at our web site. she's going to raise taxes 1.3 trillion dollars. and look at her web site. you know what, it's no different than this. telling us how to fight isis. go to her web site. telling us how to fight isis. i don't think general douglas macarthur would like that too much. hillary clinton: at least i have a plan to fight isis. donald trump: no, no. telling the economy
everything you're wanting to do. hillary clinton: no we're not. donald trump: you're telling the economy everything you want to do. no wonder you've been fighting isis your entire adult life. that's a -- gon: to the fact checkers. go to work. are unpacking we a lot here and we're still on the issue of achieving prosperity and i want to talk taxes, the fundamental difference between the two of you concerns the wealthy. secretary clinton, you're tax increase on the wealthiest americans. i'd like you to further defend that and mr. trump, you're tax cuts for the wealthy. i'd like you to defend that in this next two minute answer to you, mr. trump. donald trump: well, i'm really calling for major jobs because wealthy are going to create tremendous jobs. they're going to expand their companys and do a tremendous job. getting rid of the carried interest provision and if you really look, it's really not a thing for the wealthy. it's a great thing for middle class and it's a great thing and companies to expand when these companies are going to put billions and billions of dollars into companies and when
they're going to bring 2.5 trillion dollars back from overseas, they can't bring the money back because politicians like secretary clinton won't allow them to bring the money taxes are so the and the bureaucrat red tape is so bad, so what they're doing is leaving our company, and they're believe it or not because taxes are too high and because some of them have lots of money outside of our country and instead of bringing it back and putting the money to work because they can't work out a deal it -- and agrees it should be brought back, instead of that, they're leaving our country to get their money because they can't bring their money back into our country because of bureaucrat red tape because they can't get together. because we have a president that can't sit them around a table and get them to approve something and here's the thing, democrats agree that this should be done. 2.5 trillion. it's double think that. it's probably $5 trillion that we can't bring into our
country, lester and with a little leadership, you'd get it in here very quickly and it put to use on the inner cities and lots of other things and it would be beautiful, but we have no leadership. and honestly, that starts with secretary clinton. lester holt: you have two same question to defend tax increases on the wealthiest americans, secretary clinton. hillary clinton: i have a by the end of this evening i'm going to be blamed for everything that's ever happened. not? ld trump: why [laughter] hillary clinton: yeah, why not? debate w, just join the by saying more crazy things. donald trump: there's nothing crazy about not letting our companies bring their money into this country. lester holt: this is secretary clinton's two minutes, please. hillary clinton: let's start again, lester. we've looked at your tax proposals. changes in the corporate tax rates or the kinds of proposals you're to that would cause a repatriation, bringing back of
stranded overseas. i happen to support that. a happen to support that in way that will actually work to our benefit. but when i look at what you proposed, you have what is called now the trump loophole, because it would so advantage you and the business you do. proposed an approach -- donald trump: who give gave it that. hillary clinton: -- you've presented a $4 billion tax benefit for your family. donald trump: how much for my family? hillary clinton: as i said, lester, it is trumped up trickle down. trickle down did not work. into the mess we were in in 2008 and 2009. slashing taxes on the wealthy hasn't worked and a lot of really smart, wealthy people they are saying, hey, we need to do more to make the contributions we should be making to rebuild the middle class. i don't think top-down works in america.
the middle lding class, investing in the middle debt-freeaking college so more young people can get their education, helping people tax, their debt from college at a lower rate. those are the kinds of things boost the really economy. broad-based, inclusive growth america, notneed in more advantages for people at the very top. lester holt: mr. trump. donald trump: typical politician, all talk, no sounds good, doesn't work, never going to happen. is suffering because people like secretary bad ton have made such decisions in terms of our jobs and in terms of what's going on. now, look, we have the
worst revival of an economy since the depression, and believe me, we're in a bubble right now, and the only thing that looks good is the stock market. but if you raise interest rates even a little bit, that's going to come crashing down.
released.it will be you will learn more about donald trump by going down to the federal elections where i 104-page, essentially, financial statement of sorts, have.forms that they it shows income -- in fact, the income, i just looked today, is filed at $694 year.on for this past
$694 million. you would have told me i was going to make that 15 or 20 i would have been very surprised. but that's the kind of thinking that our country needs. when we have a country that's badly, that's being ripped off by every single world, it's the kind of thinking that our country needs, because -- lester, we have a trade deficit with all of the countries that we do business with of almost $800 billion a year. know what that is? that means who's negotiating these trade deals? that are eople political hacks negotiating our trade deals. has an holt: the i.r.s.
audit of your taxes. you're perfectly free to taxes during an audit. does the public's right to know outweigh your personal -- release rump: i will them as soon as the audit -- i've been under audit almost 15 years. know a lot of wealthy people that have never been audited. i said, do you get audited? i get audited almost every year. in a way, i should be complaining. complain, in a way -- a lot of people don't get audited. i will say this. we have a situation in this country that has to be taken care of. release my tax returns against my lawyers' wishes. releases her 33,000 e-mails that have been deleted, releases them, i will release -- i will release returns. and that's against my lawyers -- they say, don't do it. no, in tell you this -- fact, watching shows and reading the papers, almost
says, you don't release your returns until the audit is complete. when the audit is complete, i'll do it. but i would go against them if she releases her e-mails. lester holt: so it's negotiable? donald trump: it's not negotiable, no. let her release the e-mails. 13,000. she delete lester holt: i'll let her answer that but i want to audience, we agreed on silence. secretary clinton. hillary clinton: i think you've seen another example of bait and switch here. for 40 years, everyone running released dent has their tax returns. you can go and see nearly i of our tax 0 years returns. but everyone has done it. we know the i.r.s. has made no prohibition on releasing it when you're under audit. ask yourself to why won't he release his tax returns? and i think there may be a reasons.of as rich aybe he's not as he says he is. secretary, maybe he's not as charitable as he claims to be.
third, we don't know all of his business dealings, but we have been told through investigative reporting that he owes about street andon to wall foreign banks. or maybe he doesn't want the people, all of you watching tonight, to know that he's paid nothing in federal only years use the that anybody's ever seen were a to ple of years when he had turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license and didn't pay any federal income tax. donald trump: that makes me smart. paid ry clinton: so he zero, that means zero for forops, zero for vets, zero schools or health, and i think probably he's not all that enthusiastic about having the rest of our country see what are, because sons it must be something really that tant, even terrible, he's trying to hide, and the financial disclosure statement, the tax 't give you
rate. they don't give you all the details that tax returns would. seems to me that this is something that the american people deserve to see i have no reason to believe that he's ever going to release returns, because there's something he's hiding. and we'll guess. guessing at what it might be that he's hiding, but i think the question is, were ever to get near the white house, what would be those conflicts? owe money to? well, he owes you the answers and he should provide them. lester holt: he also raised the issue of your e-mails. do you want to respond to that? hillary clinton: i do. you know, i made a mistake e-mail. private donald trump: that's for sure. hillary clinton: and if i had to do it over again, i would obviously do it differently. but i'm not going to make any excuses. it was a mistake. for i take responsibility that. lester holt: mr. trump. donald trump: that was more than a mistake.
that was done purposely. okay, that was not a mistake. that was done purposely. you have your staff taking the fifth amendment -- taking the fifth so they're not prosecuted, when you have the man that set up the illegal taking the fifth, i think it's disgraceful. and believe me, this country disgrace -- really thinks it's disgraceful also. returns, you tax don't learn that much from tax returns. that i can tell you. financial a lot from disclosure, and you should go down and take a look at that. extremely thing, i'm under-leveraged. the report that said 650 -- which by the way, a lot mine that know my business said boy, that's money.y not a lot of that's really not a lot of money relative to what i have. the buildings in question, they said in the same -- actually, it wasn't even a bad story to be honest with you but the buildings are $3.9 billion and the 650 isn't even of that. but it's not 650. that.much less than
but i could give you a list of banks, if that would help you, you a list of banks, very fine institutions and fine banks i could do that quickly. i am under leveraged, i have a have a ompany and tremendous income. i'm not saying that in a bragodocious way. it's about time somebody running this country has an idea about money. when we have $20 trillion in debt and our country is in debt -- it's one thing to have $20 trillion in debt and our roads and bridges are good, and everything is in great shape, are like from a third-world country. landland at laguardia, you at kennedy, lax, new a, and you dubai , china, you see these incredible airports land, we've become a third-world country. so the worst of all things has happened. owe $20 trillion and we're a mass.
started.'t even we've spent $6 trillion in the middle east according to a saw, whether i just it's 6 or 5, but it looks like it's 6. $6 trillion. in the middle east we could country twice,ur and it's really a shame. it's politicians like secretary clinton that have caused this problem. our country has tremendous problems. we're a debtor nation, serious debtor nation, and we have a country that needs new tunnels, new bridges, new airports, new schools, new hospitals, and we don't have the money because squandered on so many of your ideas. hillary clinton: and you haven't paid any federal income tax for a lot of years. [cheering] and the other n: thing that's important -- donald trump: it would be squandered too, believe me. hillary clinton: if your main to be president of the united states is your business, then i think we should talk about that. you know, your campaign manager a lot of you built
businesses on the backs of little guys. and, indeed, i have met a lot people who were stiffed by you and your businesses, donald. dishwashers, painters, installers, glass marble installers, drapery dad was, s, like my who you refused to pay when they finished the work that you to do.them in the an architect audience who designed one of your clubhouses at one of your golf courses. facility.autiful it immediately was put to use. what the ouldn't pay man needed to be paid, what he was charging you to do. donald trump: maybe he didn't good job and i was unsatisfied with his work, do ch our country should too. hillary clinton: to the thousands of people that you have stiffed over the course of do they not s, deserve some kind of apology from someone who has taken
their labor, taken the goods that they've produced and then them? ed to pay i can only say that i'm certainly relieved that my late father never did business with you. he provided a good middle class life for us, but the people he for, he expected the bargain to be kept on both sides. and when we talk about your business, you've taken bankruptcy six times. there are a lot of great have nevereople that taken bankruptcy once. you call yourself the king of debt. you talk about leverage. you even at one time suggested to negotiateld try down the -- donald trump: wrong. hillary clinton: -- national of the united states. well, sometimes there's not a direct transfer of skills from to government. but sometimes what happened in business would be really bad for government. and we need to be very clear about that. donald trump: look.
words.all it's all sound bytes. i've built an unbelievable company. some of the greatest assets anywhere in the world, real estate assets anywhere in the states,beyond the united europe, lots of different places. it's an unbelievable company. occasion, four times, we that are ain laws there. and when secretary clinton didn't bout people that get paid, first of all, they taking paid a lot, but advantage of the laws of the nation. if you want to change the laws, you've been there a long time, change the laws. but i take advantage of the laws of the nation, because i'm running the company. my obligation right now is to do well for myself, my family, my employees, for my companies and that's what i do. is what she doesn't say that tens of thousands of people that are unbelievably happy and that love me. i'll give you an example. we're just opening up on
next ylvania avenue right to the white house, so if i don't get there one way, i'm pennsylvania to avenue another. but we're opening the old post office. under budget, ahead of schedule, save tremendous money. i'm a year ahead of schedule. and that's what this country should be doing. we build roads and because two or three or four times what they're supposed to cost, we products for our military and they come at costs that are so far above what they were supposed to be because we don't that know what they're doing. when we look at the budget, the bad to a large extent because we have people that have no idea as to what to do to buy. the trump international is way budget and way ahead of schedule, and we should be able to do that for our country. well r holt: well, we're behind schedule so i want to move to our next segment. segment into our next talking about america's direction and let's start talking about race. the share of americans who say
relations are bad in this country is the highest it's been in decades. much of it amplified by shootings of african-americans by police, as we've seen in charlotte and tulsa. race has been a big issue in this campaign and one of you is very to have to bridge a wide and bitter gap. so how do you heal the divide? secretary clinton, you get two on this. hillary clinton: well, you're right. remains a significant our country. unfortunately, race still determines too much, often live, ines where people determines what kind of education in their public they can get and, yes, it determines how they're treated in the criminal justice system. those two seen tragic examples in both tulsa and charlotte. to do several things at the same time. we have to restore trust and the communities
police. we have to work to make sure are using the e best training, the best techniques, that they're well prepared to use force only when necessary. everyone should be respected by law, and everyone should respect the law. right now, that's not the case neighborhoods.r so i have -- ever since the first day of my called for criminal justice reform. that iaid out a platform think would begin to remedy some of the problems that have criminal justice system. but we also have to recognize in addition to the challenges we face with policing, there are so many good, brave equally fficers who want reform. so we have to bring communities together in order to begin working on that as a mutual goal, and we've got to get guns
hands of people who should not have them. the gun epidemic is the leading cause of death of young african-american men, more than nine causes put together. so we have to do two things, as we have to restore trust, we have to work with the police, we have to make sure communities the and the communities respect them, and we have to tackle the plague of gun violence, which to a lot contributor of the problems that we're seeing today. lester holt: mr. trump, you have two minutes. divide? ou heal the donald trump: first of all, want tary clinton doesn't to use a couple of words, and "order." aw" and we need law and order. if we don't have it, we're not going to have a country, and going on ok at what's in charlotte, a city i love, a city where i have investments, when i look at what's going on throughout various parts of our keep naming can them all day long. we need law and order in our country. got today the -- as
you know, the endorsement of police.aternal order of which just came in. endorsements from i think almost every police group, very -- a large percentage
of them in the united states. we have a situation where we inner cities, african-americans, hispanics, because it'sn hell so dangerous. you walk down the street, you get shot. had hicago, they've thousands of shootings, 1st.sands, since january thousands of shootings. i say, where is this? war-torn country? what are we doing? and we have to stop the violence. we have to bring back law and order. a place like chicago where thousands of people have been killed. thousands over the last number years. in fact, almost 4,000 have been killed since barack obama
president. over four -- almost 4,000 people in chicago have been killed. back law and ing order. now, whether or not in a place like chicago you do stop and worked very well. mayor giuliani is here. it worked very well in new york. brought the crime rate way down. but you take the gun away from criminals that shouldn't be it.ving we have to gangs roaming the streets. and in many cases, they're illegally here. illegal immigrants. and they have guns and they shoot people. and we have to be very strong. we have to be very vigilant. we have to be -- we have to know what we're doing. our police, in many cases, are afraid to do anything. inner e to protect our cities, because african-american
communities decimated by crime. your two minutes have expired to follow up. stop and frisk was ruled unconstitutional in new york singled out argely black and hispanic young men. wrong.d trump: no, you're
it went before a judge, who was against police job. it was taken away from her, and mayor, our new mayor, refused to go forward with the
case. they would have won on appeal. at it throughout the country there are many places. is ter holt: the argument it's a form of racial profile. donald trump: no, the argument is we have to take the guns away from people that are bad people that shouldn't have them. these are felons and these are people -- when you have 3,000 shootings in chicago from you have st, when 4,000 people killed in chicago from the beginning of the presidency of barack obama, you have to have stop and frisk. you need more police. better community, you know, relation. you don't have good community relations in chicago. it's terrible. i have property there. it's terrible what's going on
in chicago. look -- and chicago is not the only one. you go to ferguson. you go to so many different places. you need better relationships. i agree with secretary clinton on this. need better relationships between the communities and the police, because in some cases it's not good. where u look at dallas the relationships were really studied. really ationships were beautiful thing. and then five police officers killed. one night very violently. so there's some bad things some really bad things. but we need -- lester, we need law and order and we need and order in the inner cities because the people that are what's fected by happening are african-american and hispanic people, and it's unfair to them what our politicians are allowing to happen. lester holt: secretary clinton. hillary clinton: well, i've donald say this at his rallies, and it's really
unfortunate that he'd paint such a dire negative picture of black communities in our country. you know, the vibrancy of the black church, the businesses that employ so many people, the opportunities that families are working to there's for their kids, a lot that we should be proud of and we should be supporting lifting up. but we do always have to make sure that we keep people safe. right ways of and then there are ways that are ineffective. stop and frisk was found to be unconstitutional. and, in part, because it was ineffective. and then there ar ways it did not do what it needed to do. now, i believe in community policing. and, in fact, violent crime is it was in f what 1991. property crime is down 40%. we just don't want to see it creep back up. years of very good
cooperation, but there were problems, some unintended consequences. too many young latino -americans and men ended up in jail for and it's nt offenses, just a fact that if you're a young african-american man and as a o the same thing young white man, you are more likely to be arrested, charged, convicted, and incarcerated. the e've got to address systemic racism in our criminal justice system. "law and just say order." we have to say -- we have to a plan that with is going to divert people from criminal justice system, deal with mandatory minimum sentences which have put too away for too long for doing too little. we need to have more second-chance programs. i'm glad that we're ending private prisons in the federal
system. i want to see them ended in the state system. you shouldn't have a profit motivation to fill prison cells with young americans. so there are some positive ways this, and i on common strongly that sense gun safety measures would assist us. right now -- and this is donald has supported, along with the gun we've got ight now, too many military style weapons on the streets. a lot of places, our police are out-gunned. we need comprehensive and we need hecks, to keep guns out of the hands of those who will do harm, and finally need to pass a prohibition on anyone who's on the terrorist watch list from to buy a gun in our country. if you're too dangerous to fly, a u are too dangerous to buy gun. so there are things we can do, and we ought to do it in a bipartisan way. lester holt: secretary clinton, last week, you said we've got to do everything possible to improve policing to
at implicit bias. do you believe that police are implicitly biased against black people? hillary clinton: lester, i think implicit bias is a problem for everyone, not just police. i think unfortunately, too many jumps in our great country to conclusions about each other. therefore, i think we need all of us to be asking hard questions about, you know, why am i feeling this way? but when it comes to policing, literally, n have, fatal consequences, i have said in my first budget, we would money into that budget to implicit biaswith by retraining a lot of our police officers. i've met with a group of very distinguished, experienced police chiefs a few weeks ago. they admit it's an issue. a lot of concerns. mental health is one of the biggest concerns, because now to handle a aving lot of really difficult mental health problems on the street.
they want support. they want more training. they want more assistance. and i think the federal government could be in a position where we would offer and provide that. donald trump: i'd like to respond. first of all, i agree, and a within my ple even own party want to give certain rights to people on watch lists lists.o-fly i agree with you. when a person is on a watch and i r a no-fly list have the endorsement of the n.r.a., which i'm very proud of. people and ery good they are protecting the second amendment, but i think we have to look very strongly at no-fly and watch lists and when people are on there, even if they shouldn't be on there, help help them, we'll them legally get off, but i tend to agree with that, quite strongly. bring up the fact that you were the one that brought up the word "super predator" about young, black youth and that's a term that i think was a term that's been horribly met, as you know, and i think you've apologized for it, but i think it was a
to say.e thing and when it comes to stop and frisk, you're talking about guns away. i'm talking about taking guns away from gangs and people that use them and i don't think -- i really don't think you disagree with me on this, if you want to know the truth. there's a ybe political reason why you can't say it, but i really don't believe. in new york city, stop and frisk -- we had 2200 murders and stop and frisk there's a brought it eason why down to 500 murders. 500 murders is a lot of murders. 500 is like eve supposed to be good. 500 we went from 2200 to
and it was continued on by mayor bloomberg and it was current mayor the but stop and frisk had a tremendous impact on the safety of new york city, tremendous beyond belief. so when you say it has no impact, it really did. really big impact. hillary clinton: well, it's also fair to say if we're going that underout mayors the current mayor, crime has continued to drop, including
trump: you're wrong. no, i'm not. on: donald trump: murders are up. all right, you check it. hillary clinton: new york has job, and i cellent give credit. i give credit across the board mayors, two two chiefs and it has worked because other communities need to come together to do what will work as well. one murder is too many. but it is important that we about what has been effective and not go to things didt sound good that really not have the kind of impact that we would want. disagrees with keeping neighborhoods safe? one let's also add, no should disagree about respecting the rights of young who live in those neighborhoods. and so we need to do a better job again of working with the communities, face communities, business communities, as well
this lice to deal with problem. lester holt: this issue is about race. so mr. trump. may i respond? lester holt: please respond follow-up. have a donald trump: the african-american community has been let down by our politicians. they talk good around election like right now and after the election, they said, see you later. years.see you in four the african-american community -- look, the community within the inner cities has been so badly treated, they've been abused in order to get votes by democrat politicians because that's what it is. they've controlled these communities for up to 100 years. lester holt: mr. trump. donald trump: it's broken. and i will tell you, you look at the inner cities, and i just and i just left philadelphia. you've seen me. i've been all over the place. home, and ed to stay that's okay. [laughter] donald trump: but i will tell you, i've been all over and some of the greatest people i'll ever meet within these communities and they are what very upset with
their politicians have told them and what their politicians done. hillary clinton: i think that -- i think donald just criticized me for preparing for debate. and, yes, i did. and you know what else i for? red i've prepared to be president, and i think that's a good thing. [applause]. lester holt: mr. trump for five years, you've perpetuated false claim that the president's first black president was not a natural born citizen. questioned his legitimacy. the last couple of weeks you most wledged what americans have accepted for years, that the president was born in the united states. well, it's very simple to say. sydney bloomenthal works for campaign and a very close friend of secretary clinton, campaign manager, patty went to the campaign, her campaign against president
a, fought very hard, you can go look it up and you can check it out, and if you week, at cnn this past patty doyle was on wolf blitzer that this happened, sent mcclathchy, a highly respected president, to question the president very hard about it, she failed to get the birth certificate. when i got involved, i didn't fail. give the birth certificate so i'm satisfied with it and i'll tell you why i'm satisfied with it, because on to defeating isis, because i want to get on creating jobs, because i want having a strong border, because i want to get on to things that are very and that are me very important to the country. lester holt: i'll let you respond, but i just want to get here.nswer the birth certificate was produced in 2011. you've continued to tell the questioned the president's legitimacy in 2012, recently as 5, as
january. so the question is, what changed your mind? donald trump: well, nobody was pressing it. nobody was caring much about it. i figured you'd ask the question tonight, of course, but nobody was caring much about t but i was the one that the birth produce certificate and i think i did a good job. secretary clinton also fought it. mean, you know, now, everybody will say oh, it's not true. it's true. sydney bloomenthal sent the reporter. you just have to take a look at cnn, last week, the interview with your former campaign involved.and she was but just like she can't bring back jobs, she can't produce. sorry.r holt: i'm i'm going to follow up but i will let you respond to that. there's a lot there. we're talking about racial healing in this segment. what do you say to americans of color. i say nothing because i was able to get him to produce it. he should have been produced it a long time before. i say nothing. but let me just tell you, when you talk about healing, i think
very, very good relationships over the last little while with the community.erican i think you can see that. and i feel that they really wanted me to come to that conclusion, and i think i did a great job and a great service not only for the country, but even for the president in his ing him to produce birth certificate. lester holt: secretary clinton. hillary clinton: well, just listen to what you heard. [laughter] hillary clinton: and clearly, as donald just admitted, he stand e was going to be ing ing on this debate stage and lester just asked the question, and he would put this whole it ist thing to bed but can't be dismissed that easily. he has really started his based on activity this racist lie that our first was not an dent american citizen. there was absolutely no
evidence for it. persisted. he persisted year after year some of his supporters, trying to t he was bring into his fold apparently believed it or wanted to believe it. but remember, donald started 1973 being back in sued by the justice department discrimination, because he would not rent apartments in one of his developments to african-americans and he made sure that the people who worked that was therstood policy. he actually was sued twice by justice department. of he has a long record engaging in racist behavior. birther lie was a very hurtful one. of great ama is a man dignity, and i could tell how much it bothered him and
annoyed him that this was being used against him, but i'd like to remember what michelle obama said in her speech at our democratic national convention. go low, we go high, and barack obama went high donald trump's best efforts to bring him down. lester holt: mr. trump, you on. respond and we'll move donald trump: i'd love to respond. first of all, i got to watch in preparing for some of your debates against obama. treated him with terrible disrespect. and i watched how you talk about how lovely everything is wonderful you are. doesn't work that way. you were after him. send out, oring to your campaign sent out pictures of him in a certain garb, very pictures. i don't think you can deny that. but last week, your campaign manager said it was true. try to act holier than thou, it really doesn't work. it really doesn't.
now, as far as the lawsuit, yes, when i was very young, i went into my father's company, he had a real estate company in brooklyn, in queens, and we, many other countries, by federal lawsuit, were sued, and we settled without guilt.ion of it was easy to do. i notice you bring that up a lot and i notice the nasty commercials doing on me in so many different ways, which i don't do on you, maybe i'm trying to the money. but frankly, i look at that and i say, isn't that amazing? settled that lawsuit of guilt.dmission but that was a lawsuit brought against many real estate firms. one of those things. i'll go one step further. florida, a ach, brilliant community, probably the wealthiest community there opened the orld, i club, and really got great
for it. no discrimination against african-americans, against muslims, against anybodi, and a tremendously successful club and i'm so glad i did it, i have been given great credit for what i did, and i'm very, very proud of it. and that's the way i feel. that's the true way i feel. segment olt: our next is called securing america. we want to start with a 21st century war happening every day in this country. our institutions are under cyber attack, and our secrets are being stolen. is, who's behind it, and how do we fight it? secretary clinton, this answer to you. hillary clinton: well, i think cyber security, cyber warfare of the biggest challenges facing the next president because clearly, two e facing at this point different kinds of adversaries. there are the independent hacking groups that do it
reasons or commercial to try to steal information that they then can use to make money. increasingly, we are seeing cyber attacks coming from states, organs of states. the most recent troubling of these has been russia. there's no doubt now that attacks as used cyber against all kinds of organizations in our country and i am deeply concerned about this and i know donald is very praiseworthy of vladimir putin tough tin is playing a long game here and one of the things he's done is to let cyber attackers to hack into government files, to hack into personal files, hack the democratic national committee. and we recently have learned that this is one of their methods of trying to wreak havoc and collect information. we need to make it very clear,
whether it's russia, china, iran, or anybody else, the united states has much greater capacity, and we are not going sit idly by and permit state to go after our information, our private sector information or our public information. makewe're going to have to it clear that we don't want to use the kind of tools that we have, we don't want to engage kind of warfare, but we will defend the citizens of this country, and the russians need to understand that. i think they've been treating it as almost a probing, how far would we go? how much would we do? and that's why i was so shocked invited ald publicly putin to hack into americans. that is just unacceptable. of the reasons why 50 national security officials who
serve in public information has said that donald is unfit to be the commander in chief. like that that really worry people who understand the threats that we face. lester holt: mr. trump, you minutes on the same question. donald trump: and i do want to say that i was just endorsed more are coming next week. it will be over 200 admirals. here. of them are admirals and generals endorsed country.ad this that just happened and many are coming. i'm very proud of it. in addition, i was just endorsed by ice. never endorsed anybody before, on immigration. i was just endorsed by ice. endorsed t recently 16,500 border patrol agents. secretary clinton talks about this, i'll take the admirals and i'll take the generals any day over the hacks that i see that have led our country so brilliantly over the last 10 knowledge, their okay, because look at the mess that we're in. look at the mess we're in. as far as the cyber, i agree,
to parts of what secretary clinton said. should be better than anybody else and perhaps we're not. i don't think anybody knows that it was russia that broke dnc.o the she's saying russia, russia, russia. maybe it was. but it couldrussia be china. it could be lots of other people. somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds, okay. you don't know who broke into dnc. but what did we learn with dnc? we learned that bernie sanders of by your dvantage people, by debbie wasserman schultz. look what happened to her. taken sanders was advantage of. now, whether that was russia, whether it was china, whether it was another country, we know, because the truth is another president obama we've lost control of things that we used to have control over. we came in with the internet, we came up with the internet and i think secretary clinton
agree very would much when you look at what isis is doing with the internet, at our own ting us game, isis. so we have to get very tough on warfare.nd cyber problem. huge i have a son. he's 10 years old. he has computers. he is so good with these computers. it's unbelievable. the security aspect of cyber is it's tough and maybe hardly doable. but i will say, we are not we should be doing but that's true throughout our whole governmental society. we have so many things we have to do better lester and cyber is one of them. secretary t: clinton. hillary clinton: i think there are a number of issues that we should be addressing. a plan to forth defeat isis. it does involve going after online. i think we need to do much more companies to prevent isis and their able to es from being
radicalize ernet to people radicalize people directly in our country and europe and elsewhere, but we have to intensify our air strikes against isis and arab andly support our kurdish partners to be able to take out isis in rocca icaica icaica icaical ng aical caliphate. we're making progress with iraq hoping to within a year make progress out of iraq and really squeeze them in syria but we have to be cognizant of the fact that we've had foreign fighters coming to volunteer for the foreign money, foreign weapons, make this the top priority and i would also do take outng possible to their leadership. i was involved in a number of take out al-qaida
leadership when i was secretary of state, including of course out bin laden and we baghdady as fter well, make it one of our principles because we have to have to do and everything we can to disrupt their propaganda efforts online. when you mention isis, we think of isis over there. but there have been american who have been inspired to commit acts of terror on of course, the and st attacks in new york knife attacks, and san bernardino and orlando. how would ou both, you prevent home-grown attacks by american citizens? donald trump: first, you have thing, very important. secretary clinton is talking about taking out isis. out isis.ake president obama and secretary a vacuum the ed way they got out of iraq,
they got out what they shouldn't have been in. way once they got in, the they got out was a disaster and isis was formed. she talks about taking them out. she's been doing it a long time. she's been trying to take them out a long time. wouldn't even have been formed if they left some troops behind, like 10,000 or that,e something more than and then you wouldn't have had them. or as i've been saying for a time and i think you'll agree because i said it to you once. i believe taking the oil -- and we should have taken the oil -- isis would not have been able to form either because the ofl was their primary source income. and now they have the oil all a lot he place including of the oil in libya, which was another one of her disasters. lester holt: secretary clinton. hillary clinton: well, i hope the fact checkers are turning up the volume and really working hard. invasion pported the of iraq. donald trump: wrong. hillary clinton: that is proved over and over again.
donald trump: wrong. actually linton: he advocated for the actions we libya and urged out after taken doing business with them. he says this constantly, is george w. bush made the agreement about when american iraq, not ld leave obama. and the only way that american troops could have stayed in iraq is to get an agreement from the then iraqi government that would have protected our troops, and the iraqi government would not give that. but let's talk about the lester.on you asked, the question you asked is what do we do here in the united states? that's the most important part of this. do we prevent attacks? how do we protect our people? we've got to have an intelligence surge where we scrap of ng for every information. i was so proud of law enforcement in new york, in
minnesota, in new jersey. you know, they responded so quickly, so professionally to that occurred by rahami , and they brought him find out more ay information because he is still to be anhich may prove intelligence benefit. so we've got to do everything to vacuum up intelligence from europe, from the middle east, that means closely t to work more with our allies. that hat's something donald has been very dismissive of. we are working with nato, the longest military alliance in the history of the world, to really turn our attention to terrorism. working with our friends in the middle east, many of muslim s you know are majority nations. consistently insulted muslims abroad and at we need to be cooperating with muslim nations and the muslim american
community. they're on the front lines. they can provide information to us that we may not get anywhere else. to have close working operation with law enforcement in these communities, not be pushed away as some of donald's rhetoric has led to.ly respond. olt: please donald trump: the secretary said very strongly about been ng with -- we've working with them for many years, and we have the greatest mess anyone's ever seen. east.look at the middle it's a total mess. under your direction, to a large extent. but you look at the middle east. you started the iran deal. yout's another beauty where have a country ready to fall, badly.ere doing so they were choking on the sanctions and they're going to be a major power at some point the way they're going. but when you look at nato -- i show, sking on a major what do you think of nato. i'm a businessman. but i have common sense.
tell you, i , i'll haven't given lots of thought to nato but two things. number 1, the 28 countries of nato, many of them aren't paying their fair share. me, er 2, that bothers because we're defending them and they should be at least paying us what they're supposed and e paying by treaty contract, and, number 2, i said and very strongly, nato could obsolete because -- and i was very strong on this, and it was actually covered very in the new york times which is unusual for the new york times, to be honest. said they do not focus on
terror, and i was very strong. times.said it numerous and about four months ago i read on the front page of the nato street journal that is opening up a major terror division and i think that's great. and i think we should get -- because we pay approximately 73% of the cost of nato, it's a lot of money to people, but i'm all for nato, but i said they have to focus on terror also.
that.hey're going to do and that was, believe me, not going to get credit
for it, but of t was largely because what i was saying and my criticism of nato. i think we have to get nato to go into the middle east with us, in addition to surrounding we have to knock the hell out of isis and we have to do it fast. vacuumsis formed in this created by barack obama and secretary clinton, believe me, you were the ones that took out the troops -- not only that, you couldn't day -- they believe it. they sat back and said probably -- wait a minute. when they formed -- this is something that never should have happened. happened. have never you're talking about taking out isis, but you were there and you were secretary of state it was a little infant. now it's in over 30 countries. them? ou're going to stop i don't think so. lester holt: mr. trump, a lot of these are judgment questions. war in e supported the iraq before the invasion. what makes your judgment.
donald trump: i did not support war in iraq. that is a mainstream media nonsense put out by her because frankly,
i think the best person in her campaign is main media. wait a minute. i was against the war in iraq. lester holt: the record shows otherwise. not show ump: it does that. the record shows that i'm right. interview with howard stern, very lightly, first time anyone's asked me very lightly, i don't know, maybe, who knows, essentially. an interview with neil cavuto. we talked about the economy is more important. hanity.spoke to sean i had numerous conversations hanity at fox spshgs he called me the other day and i spoke to him about it, he said you were totally against it, excuse me, it was before
started. sean hanity said strongly, to me and other people and he's to say but nobody wants to call him. he said i was against the war. fights with me because sean was in favor of the war. and i understand that side also, not very much because we shouldn't have been there. nobody calls sean hanity and an article in the major magazine shortly after the war started i think in '04, an article which had me totally against the war your aq, and one of compatriates said you know, whether it was before or right was r, trump definitely -- if you read this article, there was no doubt. would call up sean hanity -- this was before the war started, he and i used to war. arguments about the i said it's a terrible and a stupid thing. destabilize the middle east, and that's exactly what it's done. lester holt: my reference is what you had said in 2002, is my question was, why
your judgment any different than mrs. clinton. donald trump: i have much she does.dgment than there's no question about that. i also have much better temperament than she has, you know. i have much better -- let me tell you. she spent hundreds of millions dollars on advertising uber kn know, they get madison avenue into a room. i think my strongest asset far is by temperament. i have a winning temperament. i know how to win. does not. the other day, behind the blue screen, i don't know who you were talking to, secretary clinton, but you were totally out of control. there's a person with a temperament that's got a problem. lester holt: secretary clinton. hillary clinton: well, okay. [laughter] let's talk about two important
issues that were briefly mentioned by donald. first, nato. nato as a military alliance let's talk about has something called article 5 and this: an y it says attack on one is an attack on all. and do you know the only time been invoked after 9/11, when the 28 nations of that they would go to afghanistan with us to fight terrorism, something that they our side, doing by with respect to iran, when i iranme secretary of state, was weeks away from having enough nuclear material to form a bomb. they had mastered the nuclear stopped le, they had them with center fuges that were whirling away, and we had sanctioned them. voted for every sanction against iran when i was in the senate but it wasn't enough. spent a year and-a-half putting together a coalition
included russia and china to impose the toughest we did ns on iran and drive them to the negotiating table, and my successor, john kerry, and president obama knot a deal that put a lid on the iran nuclear problem without firing a single shot. that's that's diplomacy, coalition building and working with other nations. the other day, i saw donald iranian here were some sailors off the shores of iran taunting american sailors on a nearby ship. he said you know if they blow ed our sailors, i'd them out of the water and start another war. that is not good judgment. that is not the right commander in o be chief, to be taunted. part i heard donald say has been about nuclear weapons.
repeatedly that he didn't care if other nations japan, lear weapons, south korea, even saudi arabia, it has been the policy of the united states, democrats and republicans, to do everything we could to reduce the nuclear ation of weapons. he even said if there were asia well, in east you know, that's fine, you know, have a good time, folks. fact, his cavalier attitude about nuclear weapons deeply troubling, that is the number 1 threat we face in it becomes and particularly threatening if terrorists ever get their hands nuclear material. so a man who can be provoked by not have his d fingers anywhere near the i think codes as far as anyone with any sense about this should be concerned donald trump: that is getting a old, i must say. hillary clinton: it's a good one though. well describes the problem.
not an trump: it's accurate one
at all. not an accurate one. i just wanted to give a lot of things to respond. i agree with her on one thing. the single greatest problem the nuclear armament, nuclear weapons. like you l warming think and your president thinks. is the single greatest threat. just to go down the list, we japan.d we defend germany. we defend south korea. we defend saudi arabia. countries. they do not pay us what they should be paying us because we are providing tremendous and we are losing a fortune. that's why we're losing. everything. who makes these -- we lose on everything. all i said, that it's very that if they don't pay a fair share -- because this 40 years ago where we could do what we're doing -- we can't defend japan, a behemmoth, selling us cars by the millions. lester holt: we need to move
on. very d trump: wait, it's important. they may have to defend themselves or they may have to a country that owes $20 trillion. they have to help us out. as far as the nuclear is concerned, i agree. greatest single threat that this country has. lester holt: my next question segment,ad to the last on the subject of securing weapons, nuclear president obama reportedly nation's long standing policy. do you support the current policy? nation's long standing policy. do you support the current policy? mr. trump, you have two minutes on that. donald trump: i have to say that for what secretary clinton was saying about nuclear with russia, she's very cavalier in talks about various countries, but russia has been much nding -- they have a newer capability than we do. we have not been updating from new standpoint. i looked the other night. i was seeing b-52s. they were old enough that your father and grandfather could be flying them. we are not keeping up with other countries.
like everybody to end it, just get rid of it, but not first strike. i think that once the nuclear over.native happens, it's at the same time, we have to be prepared. i can't take anything off the somee, because you look at of these countries, you look at north korea. we're doing nothing there. should solve that problem for us. china should go into north korea. china is totally powerful as it relates to north korea. by the way, another one i werful is the worst deal ever seen negotiated is the iran deal. iran has power over north korea. when they made that horrible deal with iran, it should have that they do fact something with respect to north korea. should have been something with respect to yemen and all these other places. to secretary d that? why didn't do you
why didn't you add other things into the deal? one of the great give aways of time, me, of all including $400 million in cash, nobody has ever seen that before, that turned out to be wrong. it was actually $1.7 billion in obviously, i guess for the hostages, it certainly looks that way. so you say to yourself, why didn't they make the right deal? worst deals of the ever made by any country in history. problems.ad to nuclear all we have to do is set back 10 years and they don't have to do much. i met with netanyahu the other day. he is not a happy camper. secretary t: clinton. hillary clinton: they really matter when you run for when you are president and i want to reassure our allies in japan
elsewhere korea and that we have mutual defense treaties, and we will honor them. it is essential that america's word be good. that this now campaign has caused some questioning and some worries on of many leaders across the globe. i have talked with a number of them. but i want to, on behalf of myself, and i think on behalf of the across the globe. majority of the amen people say that, you know, our good. is that we o important look at the entire global situation. there's no doubt that we have problems with iran, but rather deal i'd rather deal s with problems having put that lid on the nuclear program than still to be facing that and donald never tells you what he
would do. would he have started a war? would he have bombed iran? if he's going to criticize a deal that has been very giving us access to iranian facilities that we before, then he should tell us what his alternative would be. like his plan to defeat isis. he says it's a secret plan but the only secret is that he has no plan. so we need to be more precise we talk about these issues. people around the world follow campaigns so ial closely trying to get hints do.ut what we will can they rely on us? are we going to lead the world strengths and in accordance with our values? what i entend to do. i intend to be a leader of our country that people can count here at home and around the world to make decisions that will further prosperity, but also stand up to bullies, whether they're abroad or at home. we cannot let those who would toy to destabilize the world
interfere with american interests and security, and opportunities at all. lester holt: your two minutes have expired. donald trump: i'd like to say something really quickly. lester holt: really quickly. donald trump: i will tell you tell you to will go to her web site and read about how to defeat isis, which could have been defeated by not having it get going in the first place. it's getting tougher and they're in more and more places, more and more states and more and more nations and it's a big problem as far as japan is concerned i want to help all of are losing but we billions and billions of dollars. the policemen of the world. we cannot protect countries all the world when they're not paying us what we need. few final t: just a questions. donald trump: she doesn't say that because she has no business ability. and a lot of things but you have to have some business ability.
have that.t a lot of the things she's talking about could have been 10 en care of in the last years when she had great power but they weren't taken care of and if she wins this presidency, they won't be taken care of. clintonholt: secretary is the first woman nominated by party. you said she doesn't have the look. what did you mean by that. donald trump: she doesn't have nachlt sher the stam doesn't have the stamina. to be president of this tremendous u need stam nachlt wait a minute, lester, you asked me a question. did you ask me a question? you you have to be able to negotiate trade deals. able to to be negotiate test sites with arabia. with saudi can you imagine with this with arabia, with all the money defending them and them you have so many
things you have to be able to do and i believe hillary has the stamina. lester holt: let's let her respond. hillary clinton: as soon as he travels to 112 countries and negotiates a peace deal, a fire, a release of opening of new opportunities and nations around the world or even spends of hours bit testifying in front of a congressional committee, he can stamina.me about [applause]. donald trump: well, let me tell you. hillary has experience, but it's bad experience. many bad deals during the last. [cheering and applause] so she's got experience, i bad k, but it's bad, experience. whether it's the iran deal that you're so in love with where $150 billion back. whether it's the iran deal. anything -- you almost can't name a good deal.
i agree she's got experience but it's bad experience and this country can't afford to have another four years of that type of experience. [cheering] lester holt: we are at the final question. hillary clinton: one thing quickly. to switch from looks to stamina. this is a man who has called slobs, and dogs. someone who has said pregnancy is an inconvenience to employers. i never said that. hillary clinton: who has said they don't deserve equal pay a job ashey do as good men and one of the worst things he said was about a woman in a beauty contest. contests, beauty supporting them and hanging around them. "miss called this woman piggy." then he called
her "miss housekeeping" because she was la tina. she has a name. donald trump: where did she
this. hillary clinton: she had become a u.s. citizen and you can bet she's going to vote this november. good.d trump: okay, [cheering] donald trump: let me just tell you. seconds and 10 the final question. donald trump: hillary has hit commercials.endous some of it's entertainment. some of it said somebody who to be near me, rosie o'd o'donnell , i think you would agree she deserved it and her.dy feels sorry for but i was going to say to and i y, to her family, it.id to myself, i can't do i just can't do it. it's inappropriate. it's not nice. but she spent hundreds of dollars on negative ads on me, many of which are absolutely untrue. and they're ue misrepresentations and i will tell you this lester, it is not
and i don't deserve that, but it's certainly not a nice
done.g that she's it's hundreds of millions of ads and the only gratifying is i saw the polls come in today, and with all of that million spent 00 and either winning or tied and practically nothing. lester holt: one of you will not win this election so my final question to you tonight you willing to accept the outcome as the will of the voters? secretary clinton. hillary clinton: i support our dachshu democracy. you win and sometimes you lose but i certainly will support the outcome of this and i know donald is trying very hard to plant doubtit but i hope the people out there understand, this election is up to you. so much as itt us is about you as the families and the kinds of futures that i certainly hope you will get out and vote as though your future depended on does. ause i think it lester holt: mr. trump,
very quickly, will you accept the
outcome of the voters? to make rump: i want america great again. we are a nation that is seriously troubled. jobs.e losing our people are pouring into our country. the other day, we were 800 people and perhaps they passed the wrong button, pressed the wrong button or perhaps worse than that, it was corruption. but these people that we were going to deport for good reason ended up becoming citizens, ended up becoming citizens. and now it turns out it might
be 1800 and they don't even know. lester holt: will you accept the outcome of the election? donald trump: i want to make america great again. it. going to be able to do i don't believe hillary will. the answer is, if she wins, i will absolutely support her. right.r holt: all that is going to do it for us. that concludes our debate for this evening. one.was a spirited we covered a lot of ground. expected thing as we it would be. the income scheduled debate is october 9 at washington st. louis and october 19 at the university of nevada las vegas.
>> the first presidential debate of the 2016 cycle is now in history books and lots going filing center, also known as the spin room. we'll be showing you some of as our reaction program progresses. but most importantly, we want to hear from you. our phone lines divided by those of you clinton ng secretary 202-748-8920. 202-748-8921. if you are supporting another candidate or are undecided, 202-748-8922. other ways you can be involved our reaction to the debate is by twitter using our @cspan , our address, #debate. hashtag text us at 202-839-7089. like to hear from you. did tonight's debate change the race? what are you hearing, peter? >> if do you send a text, that is not for phone calls but if
you send a text, we want to hear from you 202-839-7089 is number. please include your first name and your city so we can identify you that way. now, there's going to be all sorts of fact checking going on for the past 90 minutes. start with a tweet that we found here at that n, one of the issues came up was global warming and this was a tweet that donald 6, 2012.ent on november the concept of global warming and for the by chinese in order to make u.s. non-competitive. again, that's from 2012. we checked some members of see what they were tweeting out about the debates so we're going to show you some of those. this is representative jeff duncan, the republican of south carolina. hiding said trump was something. where are the e-mails, hillary? secret private server and fifth amendment testimonies? who is hiding something? rand paul live
tweeted the debate as well. say she is for jobs when she has stated she will put kentucky coal miners of business and representative earl bloomenhouer of oregon live tweeted the debate: i totally believe that trump did no formal debate preparation and finally this tweet from an boyle nearrend philadelphia: to all people of respectfully request you please not watch this debate. please look away. thank you. >> and i'll be reading some of your tweets from the general public. to us at c-span, #daybreebates.ag one: lester did better. and let's hear from miriam in eat knowtown, new jersey who supported donald trump. race change the
race, i think. caller: i'm not sure. firmly in the but camp of donald trump. i think we saw the difference a seasoned politician like hillary who's been in the for all these years and donald trump who didn't spend all the time preparing message across. host: okay, thanks. next up is elsa. us in new portng ritchie, florida, also a trump supporter. elsa, you're on c-span. yes, i firmly agree with everything that trump had to say. last agree with that caller. i don't think, you know, he has all the experience of hillary has been think that he involving kground politics. he just hasn't been in the and i think he is
very prepared to be president, and he will make this country prepare to be nd a great america again. host: elsa, thanks so much. honey on twitter says unsatisfied with lester holt's moderation considering who he was up against. richie, florida, supporter of secretary clinton. did tonight change anything, do you think? caller: i'm actually supporting clinton all the way because i feel that actually trump is enemies thane more he will actually keep world peace. is bonnie d my name blake. i believe he has no politics stent. b believe she's in the business. this is her business, and she is a fine and upstanding our america.on for
host: thanks for your call, folks. philadelphiauke in supporting donald trump. caller: hi. so i am a trump supporter. i've been a trump supporter through the primaries. must say i'm a little trump's message tonight and i think it was for the taking because you could see hillary the ton dressed in red has blood of the -- host: all right, sir, let's rochelle in capital heights, maryland, supporting hillary clinton. hi.ler: [choppy audio] host: apologies but your phone not transmitting well. please call us back. kerry in kentucky. you're on. caller: yes. i was undecided until this debate, it's obvious to me that -- that donald trump
really is -- he doesn't have temperament. he was sniffing all the time. time.s yelling all the he seemed extremely volatile i just don't believe that to has -- he'd be too close the nuclear weapons, in my view. he doesn't seem to be able to negotiate. he doesn't seem to be able to stay r the questions and on track in anything that he's saying. tell him ator had to repeatedly that is not the question. you have to not answered the question. this is the question. can't stay on d the question and can only brag endorsements he's got and his company, it seems in e he's more interested his company and his business than he is in running the
country. host: and had you been undecided before this debate? i was.: yes, and there's no way that i would man, not after seeing this debate. thank you for the call. peter, what do you have? 90 minutes ng the they were on the stage, we left the twitter counter on here and debate and htags debates 2016, over 10,000 into our feed just on those two sites. some other ere tweets we wanted to share with you. this is darruous mensa. there, a fact checker just decide of a fierce empathetic rebound. read some more after we listen to donald trump in the room. enjoyed that i and i very much enjoyed tonight. you know that. it's about making america great
again and i think we're going to be well on our way to doing it, and we've seen the votes and as a matter of fact, this morning, the votes came out on show. i think we have to do a lot in our country. and you know what came up to me more than anything else, she talks about all the things she's going to do. where has she been for 26 years? much.hank you very good luck. >> i really think it's about making america great again. working on things and nothing ever gets done. [indistinct chatter]
what do you think the role of the media is at this point? the ld trump: i wish media -- i just want them to be fair. that includes you. [indistinct chatter] at and we continue to look your e-mails, texts, tweets and phone calls. from duane in north texas. he said one candidate didn't enough s material well and the other thinks voters are stupid. then will third parties get earned spot light and, in fact, stein of n, dr. jill the green party was escorted off hofstra university campus debate.f the we had an interview with ms nbc not have the proper credentials so they took her off. a couple of more tweets that have come in.
this is abbey, least envied job in america right now is fact checker. kate says, i hoped that the trumped up trickle-down catch phrase sticks. that was my favorite play on finally, here is senator corey booker. hrc is calling trump out degrading comments about women. it's not about stamina but decency to be president. host: let's go back to rene. rene.e on did tonight change anything? caller: no. because i , it did my -- he really wasn't talking about trying to americans and trying to change the country and he was targeted in chicago, only chicago.
host: thank you for your call. donald trump is continuing to work the spin room. going l for a candidate in to talk directly to the media after the debate. we're going to be listening to next is a call from watching us in batavia, ohio. a supporter of donald trump. your opinionchange of the candidate or the campaign? caller: i think what it did for withas confirm my decision trump. a lot of stuff tonight was based on facts with both candidates. i think the issue that needs to be resolved for the whole entire world is that we are middle g very poor class. even our schools are not supported. challenged with common core. we have the heart to rebuild ameri america. hillary.een bullying he is not using the things he could use. he's not demeaning
he will bring our jobs back. i want everybody to put your trust and faith in this man because he is for the people, by the people. that has really made me kind of discuss it with hillary because she has had so many experiences and opportunities to do all the things she is saying she can do now. it is too late. we need to get somebody in there who can get it done. pence will help support america and i thank you guys for letting me be part of this. i thank you so much. >> thank you deirdre for watching.
up next is a comment from bridget in tallahassee. you are on c-span. welcome. >> i am a registered democrat. not necessarily a voting democrat. my statement, or my opinion, is ast the moderator was not strong as he should have been. that is what my view is. can somebody comment on that? >> well, what would you have liked to see from him? coming aggressive, in sas the moderator. they moderator is somebody who, when the conversation between the candidates is going back and forth, then he, as a moderator, should come in and this and let's stop let's get to the issues." i feel like, he was not doing
his job as well as he should have been. >> thank you, bridget. up next is dan, it was in watching us from gladwin, michigan, and he is supporting donald trump. >> how can we support hillary clinton when all she does is sell out our country? donald trump is trying to climb his way to the top one hillary clinton has already been on the drop. she is backed by our president who has been lying and conniving and deceiving our whole country the whole eight years he has been in there. host: dan, let me move you to the debate. what was the moment for you that was the best? onler: the whole thing donald trump and hillary clinton, you can see the smug look on her face, like, "i'm gonna win, i have connections all of the world and i'm blah, blah this."
people wrote, clinton looked at trump like a preschool teacher waiting for a drunk toddler to finally lie down for a nap. >> the debate has now come to a close. my opinions remain unchanged. why did i even watch? here is what amy has to say. well, at least this debate was interesting and lively. my ears only glazed over three times. nancy puts out, unscientific tiem me poll 62%, think hillary won. new york nbc has this tweet. they misspelled hillary's name on the debate 2016 ticket. they only used one "l" in her first name. a supporter of donald trump. caller: i feel that hillary has
been in politics for 30 years. she has been secretary of state and senator. she did first went in, not know anything, but she learned when she went on. the only thing is, as secretary of state, why did she see four americans killed and not go over there and send help? everybody is forgetting about libya. she was in charge. and we want her in charge of our country after all the americans died, she crashed her e-mails, she got rid of them? this is the person we are going to trust? and yet, she has got guts to talk about donald trump. he is coming in. he is not an experience d politician. i would rather have somebody who is not a politician come in
and clean up washington. i think donald trump did very well. hillary, yes. she went on and on and on. donald trump is just coming in as an outsider. and he was very respectful to hillary. he could've really got on her, but he looked at her daughter and he showed respect, but hillary does not show respect to anybody and this is the person she is. she does not respect anybody. host: rita, thanks so much. on twitter, luis writes, trump is not fit for the position of the president of the usa, maybe for walmart, safeway, or walgreens. next is helen, supporting hillary clinton. hi, helen. caller: hi. i just want to say i am very proud with hillary clinton with a classic representation. with our needs for america. her smile is most welcome at this time when we need it more than ever.
thank you. host: thank you for your call. dave is up next. he is watching us in michigan. who are you supporting question mark he called in on our other line. caller: i am not sure who i am supporting and the debate did not help one way or the other. i think this is a good example as to why we need to include third-party candidates after the fiasco we just watched. host: how do you think the moderation went? did it help you? would you offer suggestions about how a future debate might be better informative? caller: i feel everything they discussed was what we have seen on all the news channels for the past year, and nothing new was brought to the table. i can understand -- i was a bernie sanders supporter before all of this. i see the appeal from trump. from supporters, i can see why they like him. and i can see what people like hillary, but hillary has got an uphill battle to climb with third parties against her and
other bernie supporters who are against her. so, i just think she maybe needs to do more to accommodate his supporters to bring them in. otherwise, they will stick with the third-party candidates. they should've definitely included them on the stage. host: jacob tweets to us, eight years ago, people complained obama had no experience. it is a good thing now when it pertains to trump. next up is stephanie, supporting hillary clinton. you are on. host: my mind is boggled by these people who think freedom o leader of the free will is an entry-level position. saying he has no experience is basically an argument against their support. if we watch two -- did we watch two different debates? i am curious, really. i am amazed that anyone who calls on your other line can fail to see the difference between these two candidates and
their appropriateness for the samee if they watched the debate tonight, unless they are predisposed to a third party to begin with, which the previous caller sounded like. i don't think either candidate is perfect, but for heaven sake, an overt, over -- no, explicit, i'm sorry,a --display of somebody who is not ready to have their finger on the nuclear code. he lost his cool pretty much 10 minutes into the debate. he tried to defer to hillary clinton bya ski asking if he cod call her "secretary" and came up as if he were addressing an administrative assistant. i am truly boggled that anybody has difficulty deciding for whom to vote in this election. if you ware buying what he is
selling, believe me, you won't get paid just like the people who contracted to do work for him. host: thank you stephanie from arnold, marilyn. the debate will re-air in 20 minutes. after that, we will have another time for you to comment. we especially look forward to west coast viewers at that point. another tweet, both candidates made fools of themselves. hillary is trying to start another cold war and trump lied numerous times. peter: a reminder you can text 202839.ll at here are a couple of texts. this is from rita. disappointed that hillary seems to be a little bit repetitive, versus lacking real answers. raising minimum wage again harms middle-class business owners. this is from nancy in
indianapolis. it was telling to see that donald cannot answer a question. he used classic diversion tactics. thanks, hillary, for answering all the questions. very quickly, a couple more tweets. three things i was certain of after the debate. i have no clue i just witnessed. number two, i was scared. number three, i wanted my mom. and christina tweets in, still looking for the "how to defeat isis" tab on hillary clinton's website. host: getting a reaction to tonight's first presidential debate. supporting, who? who is your candidate? caller: gary johnson. host: did you learn anything tonight about the two major party candidates?
they were pretty much bickering back and forth. said shealler earlier does not see how we can't see the difference between them. difference.o see a they are so similar in many ways that i could never imagine the day when he will be president. is hard to see him up on that stage. i still believe gary should be on stage in the next debate. we should get to see somebody discuss the issues and give straight answers and that is what america needs so badly right now. host: thank you, just in from
alabama. becky on twitter writes, hillary won this one. trump couldot -- not keep track of questions. mary is from ma marlborough, maryland. caller: i am a big supporter of hillary. i will be voting for her. but it also proved to me, what i have been saying all along. donald trump is really a businessman. he should just keep building hotels and running them. he had too many bankruptcies. with regards to how much money he may have loaned hillary, obviously he can't be such a good businessman if he can give somebody that much money and then have to file bankruptcy. i havthink many of the questions were never answered.
on and on, they were not answering the questions. with the lady who called in reference to the moderator, i think what she was asking for is the moderator should not just, you know, as the question, tell them they have not two minutes, that when they are going further than two minutes, and refusing to stop because they want to add on more, which is mostly what donald trump was doing, is he needed to also be strong enough authority so he can stop it at the appropriate time. they were further questions to ask, it could have been done. host: mary, one of our viewers tweeted us an idea along that line, writing in future debates, the moderator should the a cut off line for microphone. caller: i think that would be excellent. as long as trump does not running, or if we don't have something like an running, because even with the mic off,
he would irritate the person beside him by saying what he needs to say. host: teresa is up next. she is from north carolina. she supporting donald trump. did tonight change the campaign, do you think? caller: it made me more sure that trump is who i'm going to vote for. host: in what way? caller: even though he is not a politician, he does have good common sense. he has got a good amount of confidence. he has got a brain that is capable of thinking. i think i saw a lot of compassion for him in the lower and middle class people, who are right now, purdu well retty well struggling. host: thank you for your call. looking at a picture of the clinton family leaving the arena now and going back to the hotel for the evening. next up is a call from elijah in
tennessee. this color also supports donald trump. what did you think about tonight's debate? caller: am i on? host: you are on. caller: i just thought when hillary said he had called women wrong things, i think it was unfair because if the women ar doing something wrong, he should be able to call them something. doesn't matter about the gender. that is basically my thought. host: thank you. peter, what do you have? peter: a couple more texts. this is from nigel in new york. the debate was irritating for both parties. neither have the qualifications to be the next president. and cheney in texas says, still undecided. i think the tax returns might be the deciding factor. a couple of articles in relation to what has happened tonight, this is from the "financial times" regarding the federal reserve. some experts say the fed is honorable and that the populist
attacks fuel demands by politicians for tighter constraints on his policy freedoms. mr. trump "is tossing a lot of fuel on the fire," says srah binder, a professional political science at george washington university. it intensifies the partisan criticism of the fed. hill" is reporting that mark cuban sent out a tweet that said, "i am not in the front row at the debate." he says he will not have a front row seat to the presidential debate. first of all, when i tweeted that, i was going to sit in the front row. i did not have a first proceed, he took reporters before the event. this was according to bloomberg politics. second, i got tickets because it wanted to bring my 13-year-old daughter, whose birthday was yesterday. the dallas mavericks owner is an outspoken trump critic. . i knew it would drive him crazy. mission accomplished.
unfortunately, he went on to say, we have been getting death threats and trumpians have been trying to hack everything we have. so, i have had to spend too much time on security and protecting my family. i do not blame that on donald, that is part of the game. host: now, we are watching donald trump's family leaving hofstra university. who are you supporting, william? caller: actually, good evening and thank you for bringing the broadcast forward for the american people. i am not supporting anyone. hear not see, nor did i anything but the same commercialized tabloid issues that have been repeated over and over and over again, by both candidates. we need to do something about our political debate system. as has been recognized with many individuals regarding the commentator and or the mediator,
lester. i believe he did the best he could. however, we need to do better. america is a better country. we do not need this type of harsh reality to be brought to the american people of the ugliness of the political parties. we don't need it. we are better than that. i agree, however, we do have problems in our country. law enforcement issues, schools, we can'tcture, but if get our own political debate system resolved, how can we get the american people to extend the time and effort into supporting anyone? i appreciate your time, letting me speak my piece, thank you. host: thank you for making the call, william. tweet, it was a two against one debate and mr. trump stood his ground like a true leader.
the next color is also supporting -- the next caller is also supporting donald trump. you are on. caller: thank you for taking my call. host: you bet. what do you have to say about tonight's debate. i called on the trump support line, but to be honest, mr. trump rambled quite a bit. i was a little displeased with some of the answers -- or i could come of the non-answers regarding the cyber security issue. i think it would have been a great opportunity to point out that secretary clinton does you know, in speech, support security initiatives, but inaction, does not support the servers and things like that. it goes counterintuitive to cyber security. you know, the experience question. clinton wasary
asked what her experience meant. they did not really provide details or answers or facts regarding the reset button. i mean, youi know, things like that. when it comes to the moderator, it almost looked like, we dig in, we dig in, we dig in to mr. trump with regards to his tax returns, and he should just release them. but when it came to the other side of the argument that trump said, what about the missing e-mails? we did not really dig into that. that is a national security issue. so, definitely a poor performance on mr. trump's part because he did ramble. but you know, i guess, they can only get better from here. it is making a case for the american people that we need solutions. we don't just need talking
points. host: thank you. idea about the debates, the american people need to ask the questions. next up is shannon, watching in georgia, supporting hillary clinton. what did you think of tonight? did it change the campaign in any way? , i have to say, as not only a clinton supporter now, but also in 2008, i do think tonight she showed a more relatable side to people. i think that a major problem i have, not only with the fact both hillary and trump had a trouble just listening to each other, which actually, coming from my perspective, trump being a businessman, i have learned coming from a family who works in business, it is not always that does the best, but listening. i fear, as a hillary supporter, in line totrump
become president, that with international relations, but are not going to be working with that support is not only economically, but also in a lot of other issues, such as with the middle east. thank you, and let's return to peter for some more comments. peter: i have more tweets. it is a travesty that neither candidater the other were on the stage. watching governor chris christie defend performance of the real donald trump aesthetic, is what he says. this is mac on twitter. this presidential race is more reason.oa"roast" the third the
debater?" the game of two on one saw lester holt asked no questions about hillary's e-mails, benghazi, or the clinton foundation. while ignoring these issues, he grilled trump on stop and frisk, his many bankruptcies, why he is not released his tax returns, and a host of other issues the media sees as unfriendly. int: next up is bob northport, new york. who are you supporting, bob? caller: i am actually supporting gary johnson. i think that with the debate, he confirmed with me once again, we are dealing with two career elitists. i think it is interesting that you know, we are seeking a lot of people who are supporters of bernie sanders switching to gary
johnson though you know, any political gauge are on opposite sides of the aisle, but there is a level of honesty and credibility there that people don't see in these two candidates. personally, i would like to see a lot more of that. with gary, i think there is more sense there that is important. i think the divisiveness we have in this country now, regardless with which of the candidates get divisiveness is not going to go away. host: if you were advising her candidate, what would you advise your candidate and you running mate to make points in thi s election? guest: either clinton or trump? host: no, gary johnson. caller: oh, i'm sorry. i think every johnson, he has embraced being socially liberal.
he does have conservative views from a fiscal point of view. i think when, i mean, as a great example, i think it is admirable when he was presented with the case of black lives matter, he said, "i have had my head in the sand." as what i think the other two, from a credibility and elitist perspective, they think they know best. infillhink gary johnson ill wells would be open in their administration and listen to other people. i am just not convinced these candidates would do that. host: on twitter, somebody who goes by the name -- actually, it is said, the billionaire who waited to do something criticizes somebody who has been at least trying for 30 years.
next up, samuel watching us from kentucky, supporting donald trump. thouggo ahead. caller: yes, ma'am. i was wanting to talk about the cyber security segment. host: please go ahead. theer: ok, so based on talking, and it went to hillary. she brought up russia, russia, russia. she does not know where the hcakacks came from. i came into this debate wanting trump to win. i am a little more open-minded than most trump supporters are. i like to think i am an intelligent guy. when watching this debate, i did not know where i would go. but maybe not. i decided, weber uses the word whoever-- i decided, uses the word "china" first
during the cyber security segment gets my vote, and donald trump did that. what another tweet, i get about the poor and the working poor? i hear a lot of talk about the wealthy and middle-class. poor people vote too! jason, did tonight change the race? caller: yes, ma'am. host: how did it do that? i am supporting her 100%. i watched the debate and she did a great job. host: did you have a moment you liked the best? caller: hm? host: did you have a moment in the debate that you liked the best. caller: hold on. host: ok. caller: hello? host: good evening. caller: i am calling with regards to the presidential debate. i live in louisiana and i am a
supporter of ms. hillary clinton and i think she did an outstanding job tonight. host: what did you like about her performance. caller: everything. host: thank you, both of you, for making the call. next up is george from kalamazoo, michigan, supporting another candidate. who is your candidate? caller: i did not know who i was going to vote for. many people, including myself, are upset. we think the media, not including you guys, we think they are hiding things in the election. trump brought up hacking the democratic party. we don't know if hillary ha cked it. trump slammednald her when he went after her on her e-mails that disappeared.
because, i don't know -- unless donald trump is something so bad in his income tax like cheating and i am sure he did not go to jail for that. there is no bomb in there like that where he is going to get slammed. he really slammed her back on that and i think people -- some of the people the that as a win for donald trump. he really took her down a few times. they were sometimes when it was kind of so-so and he kind of interrupted her a few times, which was kind of upsetting. that did not look so good. but i think he is very presidential when it comes down to all the dirty politics on the advertising she is doing. he brought that up, which is definitely true. he is being very, you know, nice about it and not saying any really bad things about her and trying to make a clean race, which is definitely presidential. , george.nk you
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