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  Presidential Nominees Debate at Washington University  CSPAN  October 9, 2016 9:00pm-12:01am EDT

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martha: approximate good evening. i'm martha raddatz from abc news. anderson: and i'm anderson cooper from cnn. we want to welcome you to
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washington university in st. louis for the second debate between hillary clinton and donald trump. tonight's debate is a town hall format which gives people a chance to directly ask questions. the night really belongs to the people in this room and these cross the country who have submitted questions. martha: the people here were chosen by the gallup organization. they are all from the st. louis area and each has not committed to a candidate. they submitted questions and we saw them this morning for the first time. anderson and i and our team from cnn are the only ones who have seen them. both candidates is -- will have a chance to answer both these and online questions. we have asked the audience not to slow things down with any applause. except for now. ladies and gentlemen, the republican nominee for
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president, donald j. trump, and the democratic nominee, hillary clinton. [applause] secretary clinton: hello. hello. hello. hello. anderson: thank you very much for being here. we're going to begin with a question from one of the members in our town hall. each of you will have two minutes to respond to this. secretary clinton, you won the coin toss and will go first. the first question from patrice. >> thank you and good evening. the last presidential debate could have been rated m.a., mature audiences. knowing teachers assign presidential debates as
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homework, do you think you are modeling appropriate behavior for today's youth? secretary clinton: well, thank you. are you a teacher? that's a very good question. i've heard from lots of teachers and parents about their concerns about some of the things that are being said add done in this campaign and i think it is very important for us to make clear to our children that our country really is great because we're good. and we are going to respect one another, lift each other up, we are going to be looking for ways to celebrate our diversity and we are going to try to reach out to every boy and girl as well as every adult to bring them in to working on behalf of our country. have a very positive and optimistic view about what we can do together. that's why the slogan of my
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campaign is stronger together because i think if we work together and overcome the divisiveness that sometimes sets americans against one another and instead we make some big goals and i've set forth some big goals, getting the economy to work for everyone, not just those at the top, making sure we have the best education system from preschool through college and making it affordable and somp else. if we set those goals and we go together to try to achieve them, there is nothing in my opinion that america can't do. so that's why i hope that we will come together in this campaign, obviously i'm hoping to earn your vote. i'm hoping to be elected in november and i can promise you i will work with every american. i want to be the president for all americans regardless of your political beliefs, where you come from, what you look like, your religion. i want us to heal our country and bring it together because that's, i think, the best way to get the future that our
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children and grandchildren deserve. anderson: thank you. mr. trump, two minutes. mr. trump: well, i actually agree with that. i agree with everything she said. i began this campaign because i was so tired of seeing such foolish things happen to our country. this is a great country, a great land. i've gotten to know the people of the country over the last year and a half that i've been doing this as a politician. i cannot believe i'm saying that about myself but i guess i have been a politician. and my whole concept was to make america great again. when i watch the deals being made, when i watch what's happening with some horrible things like obama care where your health insurance and health care is going up by numbers that are astro nomibical, 68%, 79%, 71%, whether i look at the iran deal and how bad it is for us is, it's a one-sided transaction
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where we're give back $150 billion to a terrorist state, really the number one terrorist state, we've made them a strong country from a very weak country just three years ago, when i look at all the things i see and all the potential our country has, we have such tremendous potential, whether it's in business and trade, where we're doing so baddy. last year we had an almost $800 billion trade deficit. in other words, trading with other countries we had an $800 billion doifments it's hard to combleeve -- are believe. inconceivable. we're going to make trade dearblingss have a strong border. bring back law and order the just yesterday, police men were shot, two killed. this is happening on a weekly basis. we have to bring back respect to law enforcement. at the same time we have to take care of people on all sides. we need justice. but i want to do things that
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haven't been done including fix our inner cities and making things better for the african-american citizen who are so great and the latino americans, the hispanics. it's called make america great again. uconn thank you, mr. trump. the question was are you both modeling positive and appropriate behaviors for today's youth. we've received a lot of questions online about the tapes released friday. you described it it as locker room banter. you bragged about grabbing their genitals. that is sexual assault the mr. trump: no, i don't think you understand what was sasmede this was locker room talk. i apologize to my family and to the american people. certainly i'm not proud of it. this is locker room talk and when you have a world where isis is chopping off heads, drowning people in steel caurgess where you have wars and horrible, horrible sights
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all over, where you have so many bad things happening this is like medieval times. we haven't seen anything like this, the carnage all over the world. and they look and see -- can you imagine the people that are frankly doing so well against us with isis and they look at our country and see what's going on? yes, i'm very embarrassed by it, i hate it but it's locker room talk and one of those things. i will knock the hell out of isis. we're going to defeat isis. isis happened a number of years ago in a vacuum that was left because of bad judgment and i will tell you i will take care of isis -- anderson: mr. trump -- mr. trump: and get on to much more important and bigger things. anderson: just for the record are you saying that what you said on that bus 11 years ago, that you did not actually kiss or grope women without consent? mr. trump: i have great respect for women. nobody has more -- anderson: so for the record you
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are saying you never about -- did that? mr. trump: frankly, you hear these things -- anderson: have you ever done -- mr. trump: i have tremendous respect for women and no, i have not. i will tell you i'm going to make the country safe, we will have borders which we don't have now. people are pouring into our country, and coming from the middle east and other places. we're going to make america safe again and great again and make america wealthy again because if you don't do that, it just -- it sounds harsh to say but we have to build up the wealth of our nation. right now other nations are take our jobs and wealth -- anderson: thank you, mr. trump. are secretary clinton, do you want to respond? secretary clinton: well, like everyone else i've spent a lot of time thinking over the last 48 hours about what we heard and saw. with prior republican nominees for president, i disagreed with them, politics, policies,
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principles, but i never questioned their fitness to serve. donald trump is different. i said starting back in june that he was not fit to be president and commander in chief. and many republicans and independents have said the same thing. what we all saw and heard on riday was donald talking about women, what he thinks about women, what he does to women, what, and he has said that the video doesn't represent who he is. but i think it's clear to anyone who heard it that it represents exactly who he is because we've seen this throughout the campaign. have seen him insult women, we've seen him rate women on their appearance, rank them from 1 to 10, we've seen him
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embarrass women on tv and on twitter, we saw him after the first debate spend nearly a week denigrating a former miss universe be in the harshest, most personal terms. so yes, this is who donald trump is. but it's not only women and it's not only this video that raises questions about his fitness to be our president. because he has also targeted imgrant, african-americans, latinos, people with disabilities, p.o.w.'s, muslims, and so many others. so this is who donald trump is and the question for us, the question our country must not who s if this is we are. that's why, to go back to your question, i want to send a message, we all should, to every boy and girl and indeed
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to the entire world that america already is great but we are great because we are good. p and we will respect one another and we will work with one another and we will celebrate our diversity. these are very important values to me because this is the america that i know and love. and i can pledge to you tonight that this is the america that i will serve if i'm so fortunate enough to become your president. martha: and we want to get to some questions online -- mr. trump: am i allowed to respond to that? i assume i am. martha: yes. mr. trump: it's just words, folks. just words. those words i've been hearing them for many years. i heard them when they were running for senate in new york when hillary was going to bring back jobs to upstate new york and she fafmentde i've heard them when hillary is constantly talking about the inner cities
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of our country, which are a disaster education-wise, job-wise, safety-wise, every way possible. i'm going to help the african-americans, i'm going to help the latinos, hispanics, i am going to help the inner cities. she's done a terrible job for the african-americans. she wants their vote and she does nothing. then she comes back four years later. we saw that first hand when she was the united states senator. she campaigned -- martha: mr. trump, mr. trunks i want to get to audience questions and online questions. mr. trump: so she's allowed to do that and i'm not allowed to respond? sounds fair. martha: this tape is generating intensin. in just 48 hours it's buccaneers the most did, single most talked-about story of the election on facebook, with millions and millions of people discussing it on the social network. as we said a moment ago we do want to bring in questions from voters around the quite via social media and our first on
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this topic from ohio asked on facebook, trump says the campaign has changed him. when did that happen? mr. trump, let me add to that, when you walked off that bus at age 59, were you a different man or did that continue until just recently. mr. trump: as i told you, that was locker room talk. i'm not proud of it. i am a person who has great respect for people, for my family, for the people of this country and certainly i'm not proud of it. but that was something that happened, if you look at bill clinton, mine are words and his were action. his was what he's done to women. there's never been anybody in the history of politics in this nation that's been so abusive to women. so you can say it any way you want to say it, bill clinton was abusive to women. hillary clinton attacked those
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same women and attacked them viciously. four of them are here tonight. one of the women who is a wonderful woman at 12 years old was raped at 12. her client, she represented, got him off and she's seen laughing on two separate occasions laughing at the girl who was raped. cathy shelton, that young woman, is here with us tonight. so don't tell me about words. i am absolutely, i apologize for those words. but it is things that people say. but what president clinton did, he was impeached, lost his license to practice law, he had to pay an $850,000 fine to one of the women, paula jones, who is also here tonight, and i will tell you that when hillary brings up a point like that and she talks about words that i said 11 years ago, i think it's disgraceful and i think she
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should be ashamed of herself if you want to know the truth. [applause] martha: please hold the applause. secretary clinton, you have two minutes. secretary clinton: secretary clinton, you have two minutes. first let me start by saying that so much of what he's said is not right but he gets to run his campaign any way he choosed. he gets to talk about our agenda, laying out the plans we have that we think can make a better life and a better country. that's his choice. when i hear something like that, i am reminded of what my friend michelle obama, advised us all. when they go low, you go high. [applause] but if this were just about one video, maybe what he's saying tonight would be understandable.
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but everyone can draw their own conclusions at this point about whether or not the man in the video or the man on the stage respects women. but he never apologizes for anything to anyone. he never apologized to mr. and mrs. kahn, the gold star family whose son died in the line of dutyney iraq, and donald insulted and attacked them for weeks over their religion. he never apologized to the distinguished federal judge who as born in indiana, but donald said he couldn't be trusted to be a judge because his parents were, quote, mexican. he never apologized to the reporter that he mimicked and mocked on national television and our children were watching, and he never apologized for the racist lie that president obama
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was not born in the united states. he owes the president an apology, he owes our country an apology, and he needs to take responsibility for his actions and his words. mr. trump: well, you owe the president an apology because as you know very well, your campaign, sidney blumenthal, he's another real winner that you have, he's the one that got this started along with your campaign manager. they were on television just two weeks ago, she was, saying exactly that. so you really owe him an apology. you're the one that sent the pictures around, your campaign sent the pictures around with president obama in a certain garb. that was long before i was ever involved. so you actually owe an jifment number two, michelle obama. i've gotten to see the commercials that they did on you and i got to see some of the most vicious commercials i've ever seen of michelle obama talking but, hillary. so you talk about friend?
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go back and take a look at those commercials. a race where you lost, fair and square, unlike the bernie sanders race where you won but not fair and square in my opinion. and all you have to do is take a look at wikileaks and see what they said about bernie sanders and see what deborah wasserman schultz -- schultz had in mind because between her and super delegates, berner sanders never had a chance. i was so surprised to see him sign on with the devil. when you talk about apologizing the thing you should be jigse for are the 33,000 emails that you deleted and that you acid-washed and then the two boxes of emails and other things last week that were taken from an office and are now missing and i'll tell you what, i think -- i didn't think i'd say this but i'm going to say it and i hate to say it but if i win, i am going to
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instruct my attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation because there has never been so many lies, so many deception, there has never been anything like it and we're going to have a special prosecutor. when i speak, i go out and speak, the people of this country are furious. in my opinion, the people that have been long-term workers at the f.b.i. are furious. there has never been anything like this where emails and you get eau subpoena, you get a subpoena and after getting the subpoena you delete 33,000 emails. and then you acid wash them or bleach them as you would say, a very expensive process. so we're going to get a special prosecutor and we're going to look into it because you know what? people have been, their lives have been destroyed for doing one fifth of what you have done and it's a disgrace. honestly you ought to be ashamed of yourself. martha: secretary clinton --
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secretary clinton: everything he just said is absolutely false but i'm not surprised. in the first debate -- martha: and the audience needs -- secretary clinton: i told people it would be impossible to be fact-checking donald all the time because i'd never get to talk about what we're going to do and how we're going to make lives better for people. once again, go to hillaryclinton.com. you can fact check him in real time. last time at the first teebt we had millions of people fact checking. i expect we'll have millions more fact checking because, you know, it's, it's just awfully good that someone with the temperament of donald trump is not in charge of the daw -- law in owe country. mr. trump: because you would be in jail. anderson: we want to remind the wannstedt -- audience to please not talk out loud, please do not applaud. you are just wasting time.
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martha: secretary clinton, i do want to follow up on the emails. you said your handling was a mistake. handling your -- director comey called your handling of classified information "extremely careless," they said there were 110 emails exchanged eight top secret and that it was possible hostile actors did gain access to those emails. you don't call that extremely careless? secretary clinton: i've said it before but i'll repeat because i want everyone to hear it. that was a mistake and i'll take responsibility for using a personal email account. obviously if i were to do it over again i would not the i'm not making excuses. it was a mistake and i'm very sorry about that. but i think it's also important to point out where there are ome misleading accusations from critics and others. after a year-long investigation
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there is no evidence that anyone hacked the server i was using and there is no evidence that anyone can point to at all , anyone who says otherwise has no basis, that any classified material ended up in the wrong hands. i take classified material very seriously and always have. when i was on the senate armed services committee i was privy to a lot of classified material. obviously as secretary of state, i had some of the most important secrets that we possess such as going after bin laden. so i am very committed to taking classified information seriously and as i said, there is no evidence that any classified information ended up in the wrong hands. martha: we're going to move on. mr. trump: and yet she didn't know the letter c on a document, right? she didn't even know what that letter meant? you know, it's amazing.
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i'm watching hillary go over facts and she's going fact after fact and she's lying again because shee -- she said sherks what she did with the emails was fine. you think it was fine to delete 33,000 emails? i don't think so. she said the 33,000 had to do with your daughter's wedding, number one and a yoga class. maybe we'll give three or four or five. 33,000 deleted and now she's saying there wasn't anything wrong. more importantly, that was after getting a subpoena. not about. she got it from the united states congress and i'll be honest, i am so disappointed in congressmen, including republicans, for allowing this to happen. our justice department where her husband goes onto the back of an airplane 39 minutes, talks to the attorney general, days before a ruling is going to be made on her case. but for you to say that there was nothing wrong with you deleting 39,000 i mails are,
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again you should be ashamed of yourself. what eduardo: and this is after getting a subpoena from the united states congress -- anderson: we have to move on. martha: we want to give the audience a chance here. mr. trump: let alone after getting a subpoena from the congress. anderson: be you can move on but we want to move on -- secretary clinton: it's just not true -- mr. trump: you didn't delete them? 33,000? secretary clinton: well, we turned over -- anderson: please allow her to respond. she didn't talk while you talked. secretary clinton: that's true. i didn't. i didn't in the first debate and i'm going to try not to in 24 debate. . i want to get to the questions the people brouts here to talk to tonight mr. trump: and get off this question. secretary clinton: ok, donald, i know you are into big diversion tonight, the way your
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campaign is exploding and people are leaving you. but let's get to the issues people care about tonight. anderson: a question from ken. mr. trump: i'd like to know, anderson, why aren't you bring up the emails? anderson: they brought up the emails. mr. trump: no, it hasn't. not at all. nice, one on three. >> accordable care act, known as obama care, is not affordable. premiums have gone up, co-pays have gown, prescriptions have gone up and the coverage has gone down. what are will you do to bring the cost down and make coverage better? anderson: that goes to secretary clinton. you started out with the last one to the audience. go ahead, donnellald. mr. trump: no, i'm a gentleman. go ahead, hillary. secretary clinton: i think donnell -- donald was about to
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say he's going to solve it by repealing it gunned -- and getting rid of the affordable care act. i agree, premiums have gotten too high, deductibles and prescription drug costs. i've laid out a series of ways to get costs down. but what i don't want people to forget, when we're talking about reining in the costs, which has to be the highest priority of the next president, when the affordable care act passed it wasn't just that 20 million people got insurance that didn't have it b. and that was a good thing. i meet these people all the time and they tell me what having that insurance meant to think. agent doctor and their families but every one of he is -- us, the 70 million of us who get health care through our employers, got big benefits. number one, companies can't deny you coverage because of a preexisting condition. number two, no lifetime limits,
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which is a big deal if you have serious health problems 78 number three, women can't be charged more than men for our health insurance, which is the way it used to be before the affordable care act. number four, if you are under 26 and your parents have a loils -- policy, you can be on that policy until age 26, something that didn't happen about. so i want very much to save what works and it ssh is good about the affordable care act but we've got to get costs down, provide additional help to small businesses so they can afford to provide health insurance. but if we repeal it as donald has proposed and start over again all of those benefits i just mentioned are lost to everybody, not just people who get their health insurance on the exchange. then we would have to start all over again. right fow -- now we're at 90% health insurance coverage. that's the highest we've ever been in our country. anderson: secretary cloirks the
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time is up. clikes want to get to 100% but keep costs down and quality up. anderson: mr. trump. two minutes. mr. trump: it's just -- such a great question and the question i get almost more than anything else outside of defense. obama care is a disaster. you all know it. we know it. it's going up at numbers nobody has even worldwide. it's only getting worse. in 17 it implodes by itself. their method of fixing it is to go back and ask congress for more and more money. right now we're almost $20 trillion dollars in debt. obama care will never work. it's verks very bad health insurance, far too expensive and not only for the person who has it, unbelievably expensive for our country. it's going to be one of the biggest line items very shortly. we have to repeal it and pre -- replace it with something
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absolutely much less expensive and something that works where your plan can actually be tailored. we have to get rirved the be lines around the starktse artificial lines where we stop insurance companies from coming in and competing because president obama and whoever was working on it wants to leave those because that gives the insurance companies essentially monopolies. we want competition. you will have the finest health care plan there is. she wants to go to single payer, which would be a disaster. something sthroor canada. if you ever noticed canadians -- canadians, when they need a big operation or something happens, they come into the united states in many cases because their system is so slow, it's catastrophic in many ways. she wants to go to single payer which means the government basically rules everything. hillary clinton has been after this for years. obama care was the first step. it's a total disaster and not
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only are your rates going up by numbers that nobody's ever believed, but your deductibles are going up so that unless you get hit by a truck, you are never going to be able to use it. it's a disastrous plan and has to be repealed and replaced. anderson: secretary clinton, your husband called observe ack -- obama care the crazy lest thing in the world, with premium yummings getting doubled and -- was he mistaken or telling the truth? secretary clinton: no, he clarified what he meant. we're in a situation in our country where if we were to start all over again we might come up with a different system about. -- but we have an employer-based system. that's qur the vast majority of people get their health care and the affordable care act was meant to try to fill the gap between people who were too poor and couldn't put together any resources to afford health care, namely people on medicaid, obviously medicare,
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which is a single payer system and takes care of our elderly and does a great job doing it, by the way, and all the people who were employed but were work and didn't have the money to afford insurance and didn't have an employer or anybody else to help them. that was the slot that the obama care approach was to take. like i say, 20 million people now have health insurance. if we just rip it up and throw it away, what donald is not telling you is we just turn it back to the insurance companies the way it used to be and that means the insurance companies get to do pretty much whatever they want, including saying look, i'm sorry, you have diabetes, cancer, your child has asthma, you may not be able to have insurance because you can't afford it. so let's fix what's broken about it but let's not throw at that way and give it all back to the insurance companies. anderson: mr. trump, let me -- mr. trump: one thing.
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first of alling severing broken about it. bernie sanders said hillary clinton has very bad jum. this is a perfect example of it, trying to save observe a.m.ah -- obama care. anderson: you have aid you want to end obama care but also to make care accessible and fordable for people with preexisting conditions. what does that mean? mr. trump: i'll tell you what it means. you're going to have plans that are so good, because once we have competition in the insurance industry -- yukes going to have a mandate that americans have health ibc? mr. trump: excuse me. president obama by keeping those boundary lines around each starktse and it was almost gone until just right toward the end of 69 passage of obama care which by the way was a fraud, you know that. jonathan gruber, the architect of obama care, he said it was a great like, a big lie. president obama said you keep
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your doctor, keep your plan. the whole thing was a fraud and doesn't work but when you get rid of those lines you keep competition, we will be able to keep preexisting and we will be able to help people that can't get, don't have money. republicans feel this way and believe it or not, strongly this way we're going to block grant into the states, into micked aide into the states so we will be able to take care of people without the necessary funds to take care of themselves 78 anderson: at the -- thank you, mr. trump. martha: now a question for both candidates. >> hi. there are 3.3 million muslims in the united states and i am one of them. you have mentioned working with muslim nations but with islam phobia on the rise how will you help people like me deal with the skenss -- sequences -- skenses of being labeled a threat to the country after the election is over. martha: mr. trump, you are first.
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mr. trump: well, you are right about islamo phobe yea and that's a shape. but we have to make sure, there is a problem. who we like it or not, there is a problem and we have to be sure that muslims come in and report when they see something going on. when they see hatred going on, they have to report it. as an example, in san bernardinoo, many people saw the bombs all over the aport -- apartment of the two people who killed and wounded so many people. muslims have to report the problems when they see them. there is always a reason for everything the if they don't do that, it's a very difficult situation for our country because you look at orlando, and you look at san bernardino and at the world trade center, go outside, look at paris, that horrible -- these are radical islamic terrorists and she won't even mention the word nor
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will president obama. he won't use the term radical islamic terrorism. now, to solve a problem, you have to be able to state what the problem is or at least say the name. she won't say the name and president obama won't say the name. but the name is there. it's radical islamic terror. and before you solve it you have to say the name. martha: secretary clinton? secretary clinton: well, thank you for asking your question and i've heard this question from a lot of muslim americans across our country. because unfortunately there's divisive, f very dark things said about muslims and even someone like captain khan, the young man who sacrificed himself defending our country in the united states army has been subject to attack by donald. i want to say just a couple of things. first, we've had muslims in america since george washington
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and we've had many successful muslims. we just lost a particularly well known one with muhammad ali. my vision of america is an america where everyone has a place if you are willing to work hard, you do your part, you contribute to the community. that's what america is. that's what we want america to be for our children and our grandchildren. it's also very short-sighted and even dangerous to be engaging in the kind of dema goingic rhetoric donald has about muss minimums -- muslims. we need american muslims to be our eyes and ears on the front lines. i've worked and met with a lot of different groups and i've heard how important it is for them to feel they are wanted, included and part of our country, part of our homeland security and that's what i want to see. it's also important, i intend
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to defeat isis, to do so in a coalition with majority muslim nations. right now a lot of those nations are hearing what donald says and wondering, why should we cooperate with the americans? this is a gift to isis and the terrorists. jile -- violent jihadists terrorist. western as war with islam and it is a mistake and plays into the hands of the terrorist to act as though we are. i want a country where citizens like you and your family are just as welcome as anyone else. martha: thank you, secretary clinton. mr. trump, in december you said this -- donald j. trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on. we have no choice. we have no choice. your running mate said this week that the muslim ban is no longer your position. is that correct? and if it is, was it a mistake
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to have a religious test? is mr. trump: first of all, captain khan is an american hero and if i were president at that time he would be alive today because unlike her, who voted for the war without knowing what she was doing, i would not have had our people in iraq. iraq was a disaster. so he would have been alive today. the muslim ban is something that in some form has morphed into extreme vetting from certain areas of the wompltd hillary clinton wants to aslow -- martha: and why did it morech into that? no, answer the question. do you still -- mr. trump: you you interrupt me all the time. why don't you interrupt her? martha: will you please explain whether or not the muslim ban still stands? mr. trump: it's called extreme vetting. we are going to areas like syria where they're coming in by the tens of thousands
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because of barack obama and hillary clinton wants to allow a 550% increase over obama, people are coming into our country, like we have no idea who they are, where they're from, what their feelings about our country is and she wants 550% more. this is going to be the great trojan horse of all time. we have enough problems in this country. i believe in building safe zones. i believe in having other people pay for them. as an example, the gulf states who are not carrying their weight but they have nothing but money and take care of people. but i don't want to have with all the problems this country has and all of the problems you see going on, hundreds of thousands of people coming in from syria when we know nothing about them, we know nothing about their values and nothing about their love for our country. martha: secretary clinton, let me ask you about that because you have asked for an inkress from 10 to 65,000 syrian
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refugees. we know you want tougher vetting. that's not a perfect system so why take the risk of having those refugees come into the try -- country? secretary clinton: first of all i will not let anyone into our country that i think poses a risk to us but there are a lot of refugees, women and children, think of that picture we all saw, that 4-year-old boy with the blood on his forehead because he's been bombed bit russian and syrian air forces. there are children suffering in this catastrophic war largely i believe because of russian aggression. and we need to do our part. we by no means are carrying anywhere near the load that europe and others are. but we will have vetting that is as tough as it needs to be from our intelligence experts
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and others. but it is important for us as a policy not to say as donald has said we're going to ban people based on a religion. how do you do that? we are a country founded on religious freedom and little bit. how -- liberty. how do we do what he has advocated without causing great distress within our own country? are we going to have religious tested when people fly into our country? and how do we expect to be able to implement those? so i thought that what he said was extremely unwise and even dangerous. and indeed you can look at the propaganda on a lot of the terrorists sites and what donald trump said about muslims is used to recruit fighters. because they want to create a war between us. and the final things i would say, this is the 10th or 12th
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time that he's denied being for the war in iraq. we have it on tape, the interspsh entire press corps has looked at it. it's been debunked and that never stops him. mr. trump: has not been debunked. and you voted for it and you shouldn't have. martha: there's been lots of fact checking on that. i'd like to move to an on line question. mr. trump: she just went about 235 seconds over her time. martha: she did not. mr. trump: could you shall i just respond to this please? hillary clinton -- we have many criminals come into the country. we want to accepted them back to their country and many cases they say we don't want them. hillary clinton as secretary of state said we cant -- can't force them right back into
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their countries. let me tell you, i'm going to force them right back. and when bernie sanders says she has bad judgment, she has really bad judgment. she's letting people in, letting drugs pour through our southern border at a record clip and it shouldn't be allowed to happen. c. -- i.c.e. just endorsed meche the border patrol agents. 16,000 of them recently endorsed me and they did it because i understand the border. she doesn't. she wants amnesty for everybody. come right in, come on over. it's a horrible thing and she's got bad judgment and so bad that she should never be president of the united states. martha: mr. trump, i want to move on. this comes from the public. to the online forum where americans submitted questions that generated millions of
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votes. this involves the wikileaks -- ase of purported exi-n-t excerpts of hillary clinton's paid speeches which she has not released. one line in particular is you need a public and private position on certain issues. a person asks is it ok for politicians to be two-faced, acceptable for a politician to have a private stance on issues? secretary clinton, your two minutes. secretary clinton: right. well, as i recall that was something i said about abraham lincoln after having seen the wonderful steven spielberg movie called "lincoln," it was a master class watching president lincoln get the congress to approve the 13th amendment. it was principled and strategic. and i was make the point that
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it is hard sometimes to get the congress to do what you want to do and you have to keep work at it and yes, president lincoln was trying to convince some people, he used some arguments, convincing other people he used other arguments. that was a great, i thought, a great display of presidential leadership but you know, let's talk about what's really going on here martha because our intelligence community just came out and said in the last few days that the kremlin, meaning putin and the russian overnment, are directing the hacks shall the attacks on american accounts to influence our election and wiki leakeds is part of that as are other sites where the russians hack information. we don't even know if it's accurate information. and then they put it out. we have never in the history of our country been in a situation
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where an adversary, a foreign power, is working so hard to influence the outcome of the election and believe me, they're not doing it to get me elected. they're doing it to try to influence the election for donald trump. now, maybe because he has praised putin. maybe because he says he agrees with a lot of what putin wants to do, maybe because he wants to do business in moss coufment i don't know the reasons but we deserve answers and we should demand donald release all of his tax returns so that people can say what are the entanglements and the relationships -- martha: we're going to get to that later. secretary clinton, you are out of time. mr. trump: i think i should respond because it's so ridiculous. look, now she's blaming -- she got caught in a total lie. her papers went out to all her friends at the banks, goldman sachs and everybody else and said things, wikileaks just
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came out and she lied and now she's blaming the lie on the late, great abraham link on. [laughter] that's one i have -- ok. honest abe never lied. that's the big difference between lincoln and up. big, big difference. we're talking about some difference. but as far as other elements of what she's saying, i don't know putin. i think it would be great if we got along with russia because we could fight icy together as an example but i don't know putin. but i notice any time anything wrong happens they like to say it's the russianed. they don't know but they always blame russia because they think they're trying to tarnish me with russia. i know nothing about russia -- i know about russia but i don't know about the inner workings of russia. i have no business there, no loans from russia. i have a very, very grease balance sheet, so great that when i did the old post office
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building on pennsylvania avenue, the united states golf chose me to do the old post office between the white house and congress. one of the primary things, in fact the primary thing was balance sheet. but i have no loans with russia. you could go to the united states government and they would probably tell you that because they know my sheet very well in order to get that development i had to have. the taxes are a very simple thing. first of all, i pay hundreds of millions of dollars in taxed. any of her friends took bigger deductions. warren buff -- buffett took a massive deduction. or os. many of the people give her all this money so she can do many more commercials than me, gave her -- they took massive deductions. soon as my routine audit is
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done, i'll be proud to release my returns. anderson: we have a question from spencer moss. spencer? >> good evening. my question is what specific tax provisions would you change to make sure the wealthiest americans pay their fair shave taxes? dan: -- mr. trump: one thing is for people like me, give up the carried interest provisions. she could have done this years ago. she was a united states senator. she complains that donald trump took slang -- advantage nch the tax code. well, why didn't you change it when you were a senator? the reason you didn't all your friends take the same deductions i do. you wouldn't change it because all these people given money to take negative ada on donald trump.
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i have heard hillary complaining about so many things over the years, but she's been there 30 years. she never changes it and she never will change. we're getting rid of carried interest provisions. i'm lowering taxes actually because i think it's so important for corporations because we have corporations leaving, massive and little ones. little ones can't form. we're getting rid of regulations, which goes hand in hand with lowering the taxes but we're bring the tax rate down from 35% to 15%. we are cutting taxes for the middle class and i'll tell you we are cutting them bigly for the middle class. hillary clinton is raising your taxed really high and what's that's going to do is a disaster for the country but she is raising your taxes, i'm lowering your taxes. that is in isself a big difference. we are going to be thriving again. if china has g.d.p. of 7% it's
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like a national catastrophe. we're down at 1% and that's like no growth and we're going lower, in my opinion and a lot of it has to do with the fact our taxes are so high, just about the highest in the world and i'm bringing them down to one of the lower in the world and i think it's so important. one of the most important things we can do but sheps raising everybody's taxes massively the anderson: secretary clinton, you have two minutes. secretary clinton: well, everything you have heard just now from donald is not true. i'm sorry i have to keep saying this but he lives in an alternative reality and it is sort of amusing to hear somebody who hasn't paid federal taxes in maybe 20 years talking about what he's going to do but i'll tell you what he's going to do. his plan will give the wealthy and corporations the biggest tax cuts they've ever had. more than the bush tax cuts by at least a factor of two.
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donald -- donald always takes care of donald and people like donald and this would be a massive gifment and indeed the way that he talks about his tax cuts would end up raising taxes on middle class families. millions of middle class families. here's what i want to do. i have said nobody who makes less than $250,000 a year, and that's the vast majority of americans, as you know, will have their taxes raised because i think we've the good to go where the money is. the money is with people who have taken advantage of every single break in the tax code. yes, when i was a senator i did vote to close corporate loopholes. i voted to close i think one of the loopholes he took advantage of when he claimed a billion-dollar loss that a -- enabled him to avoid paying taxes. i want to have a tax on people who are making $1 million. it's called the buffett rule. warren buffest is the one who
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has gone out and said somebody like him should not be paying a lower tax rate than his secretary. we have to make up for lost time because i want to invest in you, invest in hard-working families and i think it's been unfortunate but it's happened that since the great recession the gains have all gone to the to. and we need to reverse that. people like donald who paid zero in taxes, zero for our vets, for our military, for health and education, that is wrong. and we're going to make sure that nobody, no corporation and no individual can get away without paying his fair share. anderson: thank you. mr. trump i want to ginch a chance to respond. i want to tell our viewers what she's investor -- referring to. last month on facebook the axes were the biggest issue. the "new york times" published three pavenlgs your return
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which showed a $990 million loss and it meant you could have use that'd to avoid paying -- did you use that to avoid paying federal income taxes? darryl: -- mr. trump: of course i do. so do many of her doanors. a lot of my writeoff was depreciations that hillary as a senator allowed and will always allow because the people that give her all this money want it. hillary clinton, the tax code is extremely complex. hillary clinton has friends that want all these provisions, including the carried interest provision, very important to wall street people but they really want the carried interest provision which i believe hillary is leaving, very interesting why she's leaving it. but i will tell you number one i pay tremendous numbers of
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taxes. i absolutely use to do so did warren buffest george soros and many of the other people that shirl getting money from. i won't mention their names because they're rich but not famous so we won't make them famous. anderson: can you say monmouth -- how many years you have avoid paying federal income taxes? mr. trump: no. p but i pay taxes. the writeoff is a wonderful thing. she's given it to us. if she hay problem, for 30 years she's been doing this. i say that all the time. she's been talk about health care, why didn't she do anything about it? she doesn't do anything about anything 0 other than taufpblgt with her ats all talk, no action. and again, bernie sanders, it's really bad judgment. she has made bad judgment not only on taxes, bad judgments on libya, syria, on iraq. her and observe ama, whether you like it or not.
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the way they got out of iraq, the vacuum they left that's why isis formed in the first place. they started from that little area and now they're in 32 different nations. hillary. congratulations. great job. anderson: want you to be able to respond, secretary clinton. secretary clinton: well, here we go again. i've been in favor of getting rid of carried interest for years, starting when i was a senator from new york but that's not the point here. mr. trump: why didn't you do it? secretary clinton: because i was a senator with a republican president. secretary clinton: -- mr. trump: oh, really? if you were an effective eisenhower could have done it but you were not an effective senator. anderson: please allow her to respond. she didn't interrupt you. secretary clinton: you know, under our constitution, presidents have something called veto power. he has now said repeatedly 30 years this and 30 years that. so let me talk about my 30 years in public service.
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i'm very glad to do so. eight million kids every year have health insurance because when i was first lady i ask worked with democrats and republicans to create the children's health program. hundreds of thousands of kids now have a chance to be adopted because i worked to change our adoption and foster care system. after 9/11 i went to work with republican mayor, governor and president to rebuild new york and to get health care for our first responders who were suffering because they had run toward danger and gotten sickened by it. hundreds of thousands of national guard and reserve members have health care because of work that i did and children have safer medicines because i was able to pass a law that required the dosing to be more carefully done. when i was secretary of state i went around the world advocating for our country but also vobalingting for women's ights. to make sure that women had a
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decent chance to have a better life and negotiated a treaty with rurving -- russia to lower nuclear weapons. 400 pieces of legislation have my name on it as a sponsor or co-responseor when i was a senator for eight years. i worked very hard and wats very proud to be re-elected by an even bigger margin in narc -- new york than i was the first time. i tyke -- you have to be able to get along with people to get things done in waushtd and i've proven that i can and i'm proud of the 30 years. martha: we're going to move ton syria -- mr. trump: she said a lot of things -- martha: no. tr -- mr. trump, we're going to move on. the heartbreaking view of a 4-year-old boy sitting in an
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ambulance after being pulled from an air strike in aleppo focused the world's attention on the horrors of war in syria with 130 million views on facebook alone but there are ch worse views coming out of aleppo, just days ago the state department called for a war crimes vesks the syrian regime of bashar al-assad and russia for their bombardment of aleppo. this next comes from associate media through foofpblgt diane from pennsylvania asks if you were president, what would you do about syria and the humanitarian crisis in aleppo? isn't it a lot like the hawk: -- like the high school caust when the united states waited too long? secretary cloirks we'll begin with you, two minutes. secretary clinton: the situation in syria is
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catastrophic and every day that goes by we see the results of the regime by assad in partnership with the iranians on the ground and russians in the air bomb barding places, in particular aleppo where there are runs of -- hundreds of thousands of -- thousands of people, probably 250,000 left and there is a determined effort by the russian air force to destroy aleppo in order to eliminate the last of the syrian rebels who are really holding out against the assad regime. russia hasn't paid any attention to isis. they're interested in keeping ats -- assad in power. so i when i was secretary of state advocated and i advocate today a no-fly zone and safe zones. we need some leverage with the russians because they're not going to come to the negotiating table for a diplomatic resolution unless there is some leverage over them. and we have to work more
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closely with our partners and allies on the ground. but i want to emphasize that what is at stake sheer the ambitions and the ggressiveness of russia. russia has stided that it's all in in syria and they also have decide who they want to be president of the united states and it's not me. i've stood up to putin and others and i would do that as president. wherever we can cooperate with russia, that's fine and i did. that's how we got the sanctions on iran that put a lid on the iranian nuclear program without firing a single shot so i would go to the negotiating table with more leverage than we have now but i do support the effort to investigate for war crimes committed by the syrians and the russians and try to hold them accountable the
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martha: thank you secretary clinton the mr. trump? mr. trump: she was there with the so-called line in the sand -- secretary clinton: no, i wasn't. hate to interrupt but i was gone. at some point we need to do fact checking the mr. trump: sadly, president obama probably listened to you. i don't think he would be any more. the line in the sand was laughed at all over the world with what happened. that being said, she talks tough against russia but our nuclear program has fallen way behind and they've gone wild with their nuclear program. not good. our government shouldn't have allowed that to happen. russia is new in terms of nuclear. we're old, tired, exhausted in terms of nuclear. a very bad thing. now, she talks tough. she talks really tough against putin. and against assad. she talks in favor of the rebels. she doesn't even know who the rebels are the you know, every
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time we take rebels, whether it's in iran -- iraq or anywhere else we're arming people and you know what happens? they end up being worse on the -- than the people. look what happened in libya. it's a mess. and isis has a good chunk of their oil. you have probably heard that. it was a disaster because almost everything she's demun foreign policy has bain mistake and i disaster. but if you look at russia and look at what they did this weeking where i agree, she wasn't there but possibly she's consulted. we sign a peace treaty. everyone is all excited but what russia did, with assad and by the way with iran, who you made very powerful with the dumbest deal i have ever seen in the history of deal making, the iran deal with the $1.7 million in cash, enough to fill up this room, but look at that deal. the iran now and russia are now against us. so she wants to fight.
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she wants to fight for rernls -- rebels. there is only one problem. you don't even know who the rebels are the martha: mr. trump, your two minutes is up. mr. trump: i don't like assad at all but russia is killing isis, assad is killing isis and iran and those three have now lined up because of our weak foreign policy. martha: mr. trump, let me repeat the question. if you were president, what would you do about syria and the humanitarian crisis in alepo. i want to remind you what your running mate said. he said provocations by russia need to be met with american strength and if russia continues to be involved in air strikes along with the sirian -- syrian government forces of assad, the united states should be pre-- prepared to use military force to strike the military targets of the regime. mr. trump: ok.
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he and i haven't spoken and i disagree. you have to knock out isis. we have people who want to fight both at the same time by longer ria is not any she alt it's iran, which and the deal made into a very powerful nation very quickly we have to get ice, we have to before we get too much more involved she had a chance to do something with syria. that because the line. martha: what do you think will map if aleppo falls? mr. trump: i think it basically has fallen, ok? let me tell you something. take a look at mosul. the biggest problem i have with the stupidity of our foreign policy, we have mosul, they think a lot of the isis leaders are there. so we have announcements coming out, we will be attacking mosul in three or four weeks and all
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these bad leaders from isis are leaving mosul. why can't they do it quietly, make it a sneak attack and after the attack is made inform the american public that we've knocked out leaders, had a tremendous success? why do thofe say we're going to be attacking mosul in the next four to six weeks? how stupid our country? martha: there are sometimes reasons the military does that. psychological war faverplet it might be to help p get civilians out. mr. trump: look, i have 20ogens and admirals who endorsed me. 21 congressional medal of honor recipients endorse me. we talk about it all the time. they understand, why can't they do something secretively where they go in and they knock out the leadership? why would these people stay there? martha: tell me what your strategy is -- mr. trump: i've been reading
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about mosul that it's the harbor where, this is where they think the isis leaders are. why would be -- they be staying there any senator they're gone. everybody is talking about how iraq, which is us with our leadership, goes in to fight mosul. now, with these 200 add mirals and generals, they can't believe it. all i say is this, general patton and general douglas macarthur are spinning in their grieve -- grave with the stupidity of what we're doing in the middle 5e6789 martha: secretary clinton, you talk about arming ebb rebels but it looks like that may be too late for aleppo. cease fires have failed. would you introduce the threat of u.s. military force beyond a no-fly zone against the assad regime to back up diplomacy? secretary clinton: i would not use american ground forces in
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syria. i think that would be a very serious mistake. i don't think american troops should be holding territory which is what they would have to do as an occupying force. i don't think that is a smart strategy. the i do think the use of special forces, which we're using, the use of enablers and train -- trainers in iraq, which has had some positive effects, are very much in our interests so i do support what is happening the martha: what would you do differently than president obama is doing? secretary clinton: martha, i hope by the time i am president that we will have pushed isis out of iraq. i do think that there is a good chance we can take mosul and, you know, donald says he knows more about isis than the generals. no, he doesn't. there are a lot of very important planning going on and some of it is to signal to the sunnis in the area as well as
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kurdish pesh managera fighters that we all -- peshmerga fighters that we all need to be in this and that takes prepareation. would go after baghdaddy -- baghdadi. i think the targeting made a ifference and that would help. i would also consider arming the kurds. they've been our pest -- best narns syria as well as iraq. there is a lot of concern about that in some circles but i think they should have the equipment they need so the kurdish fighters on the ground, who are the principal fighters, take -- are mr. trump: she goes one minute over and you don't stop her. i go one second over and you stop me.
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martha: you had many -- anderson: question from mr. james carter. >> my question is, do you you can be a devoted president to all the people in the united states? mr. trump: absolutely. she calls our people deplorable. a large group. and irredeemable. i will be a president for all of our people and i'll be a president that will turn our inner cities around and will give strength to people and will give economics to people and will bring jobs back because nasta, signed by her husband, is perhaps the greatest disaster trade deal in the history of the world. not of this country. it stripped us of manufacturing jobs. we lost our jobs. we lost our money. we lost our plants. it is a zafment and now she wants to sign t.p.p. even
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though now she says, she's for it, called it the gold standard. at the last debate she lied, said she didn't say it's the gold standard. she lied but she's lied bay lot of things. i would be a president for all of the people. african-americans, the inner cities. devastating what's happening to our inner cities. she's been talking about it for years. as usual, she talks about it, knowledge happens. she doesn't get it done. same with the latino americans, the hispanic americans, the same exact thing. they talk. they don't get it done. you go into the inner cities and you see it's 45% poverty. african-americans now 45% poverty in the inner cities. the education is a zafment jobs are essentially nonexistent. i mean it's, you know, and i've been saying it, big speeches where i have 20,000 and 30,000
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people, what do you have to lose? it can't get any worse. she's been talking about the inner cities for 25 years. nothing is going to ever happen. let me tell you, if she's president of the united states, nothing is going to happen. just talk and all her friends, the taxed we were talking about, i would get it by osmosis. she's not doing me favors but by doing all the others favors, she's doing me favors. but i will tell you she's all taufpblgt it doesn't get done. take a look at her senate run and upstate new york. it turned out to be a disaster anderson: you have two minutes, secretary clinton. secretary clinton: well, 67% of the people voted to re-elect me when i ran for my second term and i was very proud and very humbled by that. mr. carter, i have tried my entire life to do what i can to support children and families. you know, right out of law school i went to work for the children's defense fund and
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donald talks a lot about, you know, the 30 years i've been in public service. i'm proud of that. you know, i started off as a young lawyer work against discrimination against african-american children in schools and in the criminal justice system i worked to make sure that kids with disabilities could get a public education, something that i care very much about. i have worked with latinos. one of my first jobs in politics was down in south texas registering latino citizens to be able to vote. so i have a deep devorks to use your absolutely correct word, to making sure that every american feels like he or she has a place in this country. when you look at the letters i get, a lot of people are worried that maybe they wouldn't have a place in donald trump's america. they write me. one woman wrote me about her
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son felix. she adopted him from ethiopia when he was a toddler. he's 10 years old now. this is the only country he's ever 2340e7b89 he listens to donald on tv and he said to his mother one day, will he send me back to ethiopia if he gets elected? you know, children listen to what is being said. to go back to the very first question, there is a lot of fear. teachers and parents are calling it the trump effect. bullying it up -- is up. a lot of people are feeling uneasy, a lot of kids are expressing their concerns. so first and foremost i will do everything i can to reach out to democrats, republicans, independents, people cross our country. if you don't vote for me i still want to be your president. i want to be the best president i can be for everyone -- every american. anderson: i want to follow up said. thing donald trump
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last month you said half his up -- supporters are racist, sexist, and deploreables. how can you be the president if you write off everyone? secretary clinton: well, within hours i said i was sorry i said that because my argument is not with his supporters, it's with him and the hateful, divisive campaign he has run and insighting at rallies and he very brutal kinds of comments about not just women but all kinds of americans. and what he has said about african-americans and latinos, about muslims, about p.o.w.'s, about immigrants, about people with disabilities, he's never apologized for. and so i do think that a lot of the tone and tenor that he has said -- i'm proud of the campaign that bernie sanders and i rafpblet we ran a campaign based on issues, not
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insults and he is supporting me 100% because we talked about what we wanted to do. we might have had some -- anderson: they, madame secretary. mr. trump: we have a divide nation. we have a very divided nation. you look at charlotte, boorges the violence taking place in the inner cities. chicago. you take a look at washington, d.c., we have an increase in murder within our cities much the biggest in 45 years. we have a divided nation because people like herm: and believe me, she has tremendous hate in her heart. and when she said deplorables, she meant it and when she said irredeemable, they're irredeemable -- you didn't mention that but when she said irredeemable, that might have been even worse. anderson: she said some of them are.
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mr. trump: and this country cannot take another four years of barack obama and that's what you are getting with her. anderson: in 2008 you wrote in one of your books that the most important cakestick of a lead r is -- characteristic of a leader is displain. you but he sent out a series of tweets that said check how the a sex tape -- mr. trump: no. it wasn't check out a sex tape. it was so see take a look -- by the way, when she said 3:00 in the morning, take a look at benghazi. she said who is going to take the call at 3:00 in the morning? she didn't answer it. ambassador stevens, 600 times -- she said she was awake at 3:00 in the morning and i -- she sent a tweet out at 3:00. but the famous thing, who is going to answer at 3:00 in the morning? guess what happened?
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ambassador stevens sent 600 requests for help and the only one she talked to as sidney blumenthal, who's her friend and not a good guy, by the way. so you know, she shouldn't be talking about that. now, tweeting happens to be a modern-day form of communication. ub -- communication. you can like it or not like it. between facebook and twitter i have almost 25 million people. it's a very effective way of communication. you can put it down but it's a very effective form be communication. i'm not unproud of it to be honest with you. anderson: secretary clinton, does mr. trump have the discipline to be a good leader? secretary clinton: no. mr. trump: i'm shocked to hear that. [laughter] secretary clinton: it's not only my opinion, it's the again -- opinion of many others. national security experts, republican, former republican members of congress. but it's in part because those of us who have had the great privilege of seeing this job up
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close and know how difficult it is, and it's not just because i watched my lose -- husband take a $300 billion deficit around turn into a $300 million surplus and incomes went up for everybody, everybody. african-american incomes went up 33%, and it's not northwest -- just because i worked with george w. bush after 9/11 and i was very proud that when i told him what the city needed, what we needed to recover, he said you've got it and he never wavered. he stuck with me and i have worked with and i admire president obama. he inherited the worst financial crisis since the great depression. that was a terrible time for our country the anderson: we have to move along. secretary clinton: millions of homes were lost and $13 trillion in family wealth wiped out. we are back on the right track. he would send us back into recession with his tax plan --
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martha: we're moving to an audience question. we're almost out of time. mr. trump: the lowest growth since 1929. martha: mr. trump, secretary clinton, we want to get to the audience. thank you very much, both of you. [laughter] another audience question. beth miller has a question for both candidates the >> good evening. perhaps the most important aspect of this election is the supreme court justice. what would you prioritize as the most important aspect of selecting a supreme court justice? secretary clinton: thank you. you are right, this is one of the most important issues in this election. i want to appoint supreme court justices who understand the way the world really works, who have real-life experience, who would not -- have not just been in a big law firm and maybe clerked for a judge and then gotten on the bench but maybe they tried more cases, they
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actually understand what people are up against because i think the current court has gone in the wrong direction. so i would want to see the supreme court reverse citizens united and get dark, unaccountable money out of our politics. donald doesn't agree with that. i would like the supreme court to understand that voting rights are still a big problem in many parts of our country, that we don't always do everything we can to make it possible for people of color and older people and young people to be able to exercise their franchise. i want a supreme court that will stick with roe v. wade and a woman's right to choose and a supreme court that will stick with marriage equality. donald has put forth names of people he would consider and among those are people who would reverse roe v. wade and marriage equality. that would be a terrible
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mistake and would take us backwards. i want a supreme court that doesn't always side with corporate interests. a court that understands that because you are wealthy and can give more money to something doesn't mean you should have any more rights than anybody else so i have very clear views about what i want to see to change the balance on the supreme court and i regret deeply that the senate has not done its job and they have not permitted a vote on the person that president obama, a highly qualified person, they've not given him a vote to be able to have the full complement of nine supreme court justices. i think that ways der elix of duty. -- der i will ection of duty. if i am so fornt as to be president i am immediately move to be sure we fill that. martha: thank you, you are out of time. mr. trump? mr. trump: justice scalia, great judge, d-day recently.
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and we have -- died recently and we've a vacancy. i am looking to appoint judges very much in the mold of justice skalia. i'm looking for judges and i have actually picked 20 of them so that people would see. highly respected. highly thought of and actually very beautifully reviewed by just about everybody. but people that will respect the constitution of the united states. and i think that this is so important, also the second amendment which is totally under siege by people like hillary clinton. they'll respect the second amendment and what is stands for, what it represents. so important to me. hillary mentioned something about contributions. just so you understand, so i will have in my race more than 1 -- $100 million of my money, meaning i'm not taking all this big money from all these
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different corporations like she's doing. i'm putting in more by the time it's finished, more than $100 million invested. pretty much self funded. we're raising money for the republican party and doing tremendously on the small donations, $61 average or so. i asked hillary why doesn't she she -- how why does -- made $250 million by being in office. why don't you put $10 million or $30 million in your own campaign in it's barry zito -- $30 million less for special interests that will tell you exactly what to do and it would be a nice sign for the american public. you have a lot of it because of the fact that you've been in office. you made a lot of it while you were secretary of state actually. so why aren't you putting money into your own campaign? just curious? martha: thank you very much. we're going ton one more question -- secretary clinton: the question
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about the supreme court, i want to combickly say i respect the second amendment but i believe there should be comprehensive background checks and we should close the gun show loophole and -- martha: we have one more question, mr. clinton. anderson: one more question, about -- from ken bone about energy policy. ken? >> what steps will your energy policy take to meet our energy nidse -- needs while at the same time remaining environmentally friendly and minimizing job loss for fossil fuel power plant workers? mr. trump: such a great question. energy is under siege by the obama administration. absolute siege the e.p. parvings is killing these -- e.p.a. is killing these energy companies and foreign companies are now coming in, buying so many of our different plants and then rejiggering the plants so that they can take care of their oil. we are killing, absolutely killing our energy business in this country.
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now, i'm all for alternative forms of energy, including wind, solar, etc., but we need much more than wind and solar and you look at our miners. hillary clinton wants to put all the miners out of business. there say thing called clean coal lasts 4000 years in this country. we have so many things -- because of technology, we have unbelievable -- of the last seven years, we have found tremendous wealth right under our feet. so much wealth. especially when you have $20 million in debt -- $20 billion in debt. i will bring our companies back. they will make money. they will pay off our tremendous budget deficits which are tremendous. but we are putting our energy companies out of business. we have to bring back our workers. you take a look at what is
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happening to steal and -- happening to steel and china is killingel, which our workers. we have to guard our energy companies. we have to make it possible. theypa is so restrict it, are putting our energy companies out of business. all you have to do is go to a great place like west virginia or ohio, which is phenomenal, or places like pennsylvania, and you see what they are doing to and others,- miners in the energy business and it's a disgrace. it's an absolute disgrace. anderson: two minutes. verylinton: that was interesting. first of all, china is illegally dumping steel in the united states and donald is buying it to build his buildings. that is something i fought i wouldas a senator and
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have a trade prosecutor to make sure we don't get taken advantage of by china, on steel or anything else. you know, because it sounds like you are in the business or are aware of people in the business, you know that we are now for the first time ever energy independent. we are not dependent on the middle east. but the middle east still controls a lot of the prices. the price of oil has been way down and that has had a damaging effect on a lot of the oil companies, right? we are, however, producing a lot of natural gas, which serves as a bridge to more renewable fuels. i think that is an important transition. remain in energy independent. it gives us much more power and freedom than to be worried about what goes on in the middle east. we have enough worries about what goes on over there than having to worry about that. so i have a comprehensive energy policy, but it really does include fighting climate change,
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because i think that is a serious problem. and i support moving toward more clean, renewable energy as quickly as we can, because i century can be the 21st clean energy superpower and create millions of new jobs and businesses. i also want to make sure we do not leave people behind. that is why i am the only candidate, from the very beginning of this campaign, who had a plan to help us revitalize coal country. because those coal miners and their grandfathers , they dug thatcoal out. died, wereem injured. i don't want to walk away from them. the power -- the price of coal is down worldwide. we have to walk away. i hope you will go to and see theon.com entire policy. martha: we have think then one
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more question and it comes from carl becker. carl: good evening. my question to both of you is -- regardless of the current rhetoric -- would either of you name one positive thing that you respect in one another? [applause] mr. trump, would you like to go first? well, i certainly will. because i think that's a very fair and important question. i respect his children. his children are incredibly able and devoted, and i think that says a lot about donald. i don't agree with nearly anything else he says or does, but i do respect that, and i think that is something that as a mother and her grandmother, is very important to me. electionieve that this
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so conflictn part oriented, so intense because there's a lot at stake. this is not an ordinary time. this is not an ordinary election. we are going to be choosing a president who will set policy four or eightt years, but because of some of the important decisions we have to make here at home and around the world, from the supreme court to energy and so much else -- so there is a lot at stake. it's one of the most consequential elections we have had. and that is why i have tried to put forth specific policies and plans, trying to get it off of the personal and put it on to what it is i want to do as president. and that is why i hope people will check on that for themselves so they can see, yes, i have spent 30 years --
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actually may little more, working to help kids and families and i want to take that experience to the white house and do that every single day. --tha: mr. trump? mr. trump: mr. trump: i consider her statement about my children a very nice government. i don't know if it was meant to be a competent. i'm very proud of my children. they have been wonderful, wonderful kids. i consider that a compliment. i will say this about hillary. she doesn't quit. she doesn't give up. i respect that. i tell it like it is. she is a fighter. i disagree with much of what she is fighting for. i do disagree with her judgment in many cases, but she does fight hard and she doesn't quit and she doesn't give up and i consider that to be a very good trait. martha: thanks to both of you. to thank both of
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the candidates. we want to thank the university here. this concludes the townhall commission. thank you to everyone who watched. turn on october 19 for the final presidential debate that will take place at the university of nevada, las vegas. [applause]
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coverage of the 2016 -- the second presidential debate -- second presidential debate for the 2016 season. that one will probably go in the history books for the amount of personal invective between the two candidates. we would like to know what your thoughts are. --l if you are undecided, our number 748-8922. you can also send us a tweet. @cspan #debates. mr. trump is headed over to the
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media room. he did that in the first debate, went into the filing room and talk directly with reporters and we are anticipating he will do that again and we will listen and to hear his perspective on how things went tonight. until then, peter, what have you found for us? a lot of people were live tweeting this 90 minute debate. kellyanne conway, the trump how do younager -- know donald trump won the debate -- one, you watched it, and two, hillary and media -- the spin will be about him standing behind her #yawn. -- the second to last tweet after a decent first debate, hillary clinton is back to form: pedantic, lawyerly, technocratic, willfully untruthful responses. here is a tweet hillary clinton's campaign sent out.
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"i will be a president for all of the people." -- donald trump. except women, people tell, lgbt people, muslims. and donald trump sent out -- hypocrite i want to show you this tweet, and there is bad language in it, outit was sent it -- sent expert forign policy ms. clinton -- he is a foreign policy expert for mrs. clinton. this call from elizabeth city, north carolina supporting donald trump. caller: hello. host: what is your reaction?
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ms. clinton is proved she is all talk and no action, except for fundraising. [laughter] i think mr. trump is very down-to-earth. the united states needs his expertise, not more political correctness. we can't stand for more years of what we have had, which is what we would have to put up with if we chose a hillary. very bad choice. that is my statement. monee int up is auburn, washington supporting secretary clinton. caller: that's me. host: you are on. taking myank you for call. she was cool, calm, poised. he nailed him to the cross. just want to say i did not appreciate donald trump walking around her, intimidating or.
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you are darn right, kellyanne conway. he should not have done that. and the sniffles issues he had in the other debate big-time -- what is going on there? so, rock on, hillary. we got you here in seattle. we got you. logan, west is in virginia on our other line. i mean,yes, sir -- ma'am. i made up my mind. donald trump is going to be who i am going to vote or and campaign for and represent because the man told it right. hillary clinton just got a national tv and lied about the coal mining jobs here in west virginia. she come down here -- we would not even let her in logan county because she said she was going to cut down all the mines, shut them down, and we have the technology now for clean coal. we have the technology to turn
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coal into gasoline. we have so much technology now and so much gas and oil right here in west virginia that this country could run over 500 years on it. get us out of debt, get our country back in shape, and with hillary clinton, it would be the same old, same old of barack obama with the epa and put all in ohio,miners kentucky, pennsylvania out of jobs, out of work, and created this vacuum of nothing but violence and drug selling and stuff like that. we need a wall to stop all the drugs from coming across into this country, all of the heroine and stuff. host: thank you, scott. let me jump into this point. bill clinton laughed at coal people. she will, too. that is a tweet from one of our
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viewers tonight. we are asking you to tweak and #debate.pan and we have walter from munro, new jersey on our other line. do you have a candidate now? yes, i do. i am leaning toward trump actually. i think this campaign has become overly nasty. it's unnecessary. stick to the facts. this character hashing is just dividing us even further. and is very disturbing. the thing about the locker room talk, that was very disturbing to me, to appear yesterday i said i would never cast a vote for him because of that. but in retrospect, i have been thinking more and more about it, and jimmy carter even had lost in his heart of his own admission. so, i think i'm still going to go for trump. host: thanks for calling in
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tonight, walter. next up is honest, who is watching us in santa rosa, california, and you are a supporter of mr. trump. outage or candidate do tonight? caller: i really like to the fact that trump was in command of himself and i like the way he hillary and after obama care. i have a son that is perfectly healthy, and the obamacare fined him hundred $50 one year for not having and the second year was like two thousand dollars. young people do not need that. it's us old guys. in semi for years old. i certainly need health insurance, but i have the medicare. i thought donald trump was forceful. he shows great signs of leadership. i like him and i am going to vote for him. thank you. host: next up is steve. steve is in lafayette hill, pennsylvania. a supporter of hillary clinton. outage or candidate do tonight,
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steve? think secretary clinton did fantastic. donald trump does not pay taxes. he does not know what the inner cities are -- if you can just fathom that. trump tower.y in it's ridiculous. the man does not know about aleppo. i think hillary clinton was on point, she answered questions, and she did not give into donald --mp felt crazy attitude donald trump's crazy attitude and his nonsense -- students, benefits on the affordable care act. i am 25. i don't know what i would do without it. the man he was just talking. i'm a young person. i need health insurance. is absolutely absurd. i am voting for senator ilich clinton. amazing. every sane, intelligent american should as well. host: ok, back to my colleague
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steve. steve: no question who won tonight -- donald focused on hillary, hillary focused on the mac and people. this is mike pence's tweet -- i also want to show you some of the national newspaper headlines that have come out on this debate. here is the new york times. clinton wage and nasty fight from first to last. "the wall street journal" says debate bristles with unprecedented rancor. and finally "the washington post" -- clinton-trump battle bitterly in st. louis. host: and back to twitter for us for comments from the audience. trump has a lot of
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nerve talking about chinese steel putting american workers out of jobs. georgia,een from supporting trump. >> yes, i am. i support from 100%. i am spanish. ideas. he has great hardly wait could to support hillary, to be honest. from then on, i could not be happy. my choice was not a choice. when they know, elected obama, america wanted a change. now they have it. so, it is time for america to wake up and choose the right person. from thank you alex,
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georgia. on twitter, k asked the question -- do we really need a third debate? alabama,s martha from a clinton supporter. you are on the air. hillary won i think tonight. and when you got to talk about the insurance and support forth, the medicaid, i think that is a good idea. because there are kids that need medicaid. .nd you know, we can use it even though sometimes people think we can't. but, hillary, you are dead on point. thank you. host: thank you, martha. next is randy and not still, alabama. welcome to our discussion. what did you think. caller: i liked it. i really liked it. i of been undecided. i had not voted in the last election. i was leaning to the democrat side, but now i am voting for donald trump.
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host: what swayed you tonight? know.: i don't just -- the man has got plans. person with heart problems. i have had cancer. and you know, i'm worried about this health care system. but more than that, i'm worried about america. and if we don't have a change, worry about his future. i worry about my grandkids' they willd i think not have a future. host: all right, thank you. next up, barbara from ohio. how did secretary clinton do tonight? caller: i thought she did fine. i got tired of watching donald. [laughter] barbara, what did you
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think of the overall tone of the debate? caller: the whole election has been the same way. ,e walks around, condemns spouts off stuff, that's about it. host: so tonight was more of the same for you? caller: more of the same. but i did want to let hillary no, when he talked about obamacare and how terrible it is, well, i have had cancer twice. the first time it was a 45-pound tumor because i was too scared to use my health care. i was paying almost a hundred dollars a week as a food worker for dental and stuff. and i could not even get my teeth pulled because i needed a heart valve, too. in 2013. and i would have owed everybody. in fact, i just straightened out
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everything i owed when i worked and had health insurance. the way it is now, they are going to pay for everything, and some of hissibly supporters would call me a bomb for being on disability, but i don't see anybody coming from that type of thing. i had colon cancer second time. host: all right, thank you for your call. next goal is nick. support of donald trump. how did your candidate do tonight? caller: he did good. i am tired of the same old, same old. hillary is the same old, same old. she is not good for the country. forink trump will be better the country because he is not the same old, same old. were you concerned about the videotape everybody is talking about? caller: you know what?
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that is just typical male -- typical male. i mean, they are in the locker room, yeah. the fact of the matter is, nobody is going to say -- but when you are rich and famous, people are going to throw themselves at you. they are going to let you do what you want to do. it happens. it's life. i want trump. host: all right. trump is a bully with his persistent pacing behind hrc to intimidate her. candidate should remain seated. on our other line -- do you have a candidate? caller: i am still undecided actually. host: what did you think about tonight's debate? caller: i think it was three
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against one. they were really tough on trump, were not giving him as much time , were not interrupting him -- will not interrupting her as much as him. what did you think about the questions from the audience? caller: i thought they were cherry picked to not get to the real issues like the fact that this is basically -- i'm sorry. i'm a little worked up. it's a world war. and they are talking about nothing that really matters. i'm sorry. what would you have asked tonight? asked, whatuld have are you going to do for the next four years to make sure there is no nuclear attack? because that is going to happen. host: brandon, thanks. let's watch as the clintons leave.
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host: current president and secretary clinton leaving the debate site. our information that trump was going to go to these spend room appears to have been misguided. he is off. the spend room is active.
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let's go back to your calls and to twitter. voting a tweet -- i'm for hillary. trump is heartless and rude and he should not be our potus. the -- trump on strays away from the issues and questions. next caller. clinton supporter. i am from columbus, ohio. i'm a clinton supporter. i have three things to say. trump does avoid the questions. he never answered. for him to say he likes women, i don't believe. has been married three times. his dad was a pimp. he did not allow his children to acknowledge their birth mother at his nomination or no time thereafter. he does not believe in no kids left behind because all his
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children went to boarding schools. is not sticking to the issues. he is worried about china -- someone who makes all of his company's.his so if we don't want a civil war, i advise the united states of america to vote for hillary clinton. thank you.host: peter slen? tweet --hillary clinton spoke 39 minutes , five seconds. donald trump spoke for 40 minutes and 10 seconds. and professor at cuny brooklyn tweeted out -- i'm a muslim and i would like to report a crazy man threatening a woman on the stage in missouri. the hill newspaper is reporting geraldo rivera is saying "i have
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embarrassing tapes of trump." he, too, has embarrassing interview footage with donald trump. he started going over past interviews with trump. "i have interviewed him many times and been with them many times, and i have tapes." and i have started going through the tapes. there are statements that, in the context of the current climate, would be embarrassing." he did say he had never heard , as he didhe p-word in the 2005 access hollywood footage and never saw him come onto women on the program. host: joshua on twitter says my vote.andidate has from bullies while clinton is two-faced. jill stein has my vote. that is the green party candidate. your reaction to the number two presidential debate.
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the third one is on october 19 and monica is watching us in kentucky, supporting donald trump. what did you think of tonight's i think donald trump did a great job. i want everyone to know here in l community.re a coa there are several coal miners, including my son, that were laid off. they could not afford obamacare because the cost had gone up for the co-pay, so all of that to say is, go, donald trump. up, abigail, houston, texas on our other line. do you have a candidate, abigail? was first a huge money sanders supporter, which i still am. however, after the first and second debate, i am for sure voting for hillary clinton, and my husband is, too. i also wanted to touch base on the fact that many people have attacked obamacare. i know there are living
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expenses. i can understand that. what people do not seem to understand are the benefits many other people get. my husband -- she is 25 years old. he has a pre-existing heart condition and if it was not for obamacare, he would not have get health insurance that he means. and that is what a lot of people don't seem to understand. not only that, but after watching the debate, i noticed that donald trump was constantly just personally attacking clinton. focusing on the real issues that the american people are wanting to hear. that is why my vote and my husband will vote is going for clinton. thanks, abigail, watching in houston. joshua fielder on twitter said -- hillary sounded like a career politician, telling lies to defend failed policies.
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she was just saying words. i'm an independent. from california, supporting secretary clinton. hello, i'm from watsonville, california. i'm hispanic. i definitely support hillary clinton. donald trump did a great job avoiding the questions he was asked. he was only concentrated on talking on hillary clinton and doing some gestures behind her to make her look bad. i support her and me and my family are all going to vote on the eighth and we're all voting for hillary clinton. host: thank you for your call, sir. up, donna in pittsburgh, supporting donald trump. how the donald trump do tonight, donna? at truck supporter, and as far as the debate went, i would like to have seen it be antagonistic.
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when you compare the candidates, you have to think for the come from. donald trump is a real estate mogul. he is used to being a shark. he is used to being a ball in a china closet, and that is kind of how he conducts himself in the debate. hillary clinton is a seasoned politician, maybe thinks a little faster on her feet. i don't believe a word she says. and just because donald trump, maybe his debate skills aren't quite as polished as hillary's it does not mean he would not be a good president. use the same tactics and processes when he was making decisions for the country. what has the story of the party -- of the past 48 hours involving the "access hollywood" tape meant to you? be ar: i always seem to
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couple days behind in the news so i can't speak to that. that's all right. we appreciate you calling in. next is dan in lexington, virginia supporting secretary clinton. you are on. caller: i think with the previous caller and what you keep asking is awesome. i think hillary clinton is so prepared and proven over so many years to answer things and get out things, and people say like thisat you think about access hollywood tape? i mean, it's brilliant, dropping that thing in the midst of all the stuff that comes out on her -- the e-mails in the stuff about trump. it's awesome. she has got some terrible history herself with her husband. crediblesome pretty allegations against him. and they are like teflon.
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i think it's brilliant. i like to support people that are so able to dodge infants. right, stand from lexington. next from bloomington, illinois, supporting donald trump. hi, you are on. caller: donald trump is what our country needs. hillary is not held accountable for benghazi or her e-mails. after 30 years of being in politics, she should have known better. in the rugged sector, you would be in trouble. you would be talk to. clinton stepped down from being secretary of state. i'm sure she is getting a pension for that. she has gotten rich off the people. i lost two jobs to foreign countries. our jobs keep going to foreign countries.
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we need jobs for everyone to come to america. you. thank jamie supporting hillary clinton. i am definitely in support of hillary clinton. the reasons are beyond anyone who has sat down and listen to this man -- i am flabbergasted to listen to all of these people calling, all the things they love about him and what comes down to the comments of the past 48 hours, are you kidding me? oh, it's just meant talking. no, men do not sit and talk such vulgar sexual assault on women. and to bring up the clinton. donald fors forgive something 11 years ago, but let's bring a bill clinton and him getting a blow job -- i'm sorry.
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it's absolutely absurd that anyone can find this man even remotely capable of running the united states of america is absolutely absurd. amy from north carolina on twitter -- peter slen, what do you have? group before the debate, eight supporting our clinton, nine supporting donald trump. afterward he found for supporting billy clinton and 18 supporting donald trump. laura ingraham tweeted this out -- he is a radio talkshow host -- all the republicans who backed away from donald trump look really, really stupid right now. formerhael steele, the chairman of the republican national committee tweeted this out -- this picture of a nuclear
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bomb going off. i did not do that very well, susan, but he says this is the gop at this moment. get the idea that mr. steele was trying to convey, peter. thanks. let's go back to your phone calls and tweets. here is one that says, donald prosecute int to jail his political opponent is undemocratic and very dangerous. tonight'sou think of debate? we would like to share your calls. on until 9:00 on the west coast with your reaction to a very momentous 48 hours in politics for both campaigns. we would like to hear how you think they did. next is happier in montclair, new jersey. go ahead, javier. caller: hi, how are you?
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host: do you have a candidate? caller: i don't have a candidate. i wanted to address the fact that the debate started about sexual assault, the tapes that came out about "access hollywood" regarding donald trump and the things that he said. first off, i would just like to say that is totally not ok. that behavior is unacceptable. that sexualto say inassment was not addressed a substantive way. i wish it had been dressed in a more substantive way. it is systemic. that is not been dealt with. it was a perfect time to discuss it in a substantive way -- sexual assault, sexual
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assault on college campuses. that left me a little empty. also immigration and immigration reform for the 11 million illegal immigrants in this country who are living in the shadows was not addressed in any .ay right, we are going to go to the media file, the spin called.it is kellyanne conway is speaking to major garrett of cbs. let's listen in. religious freedom from a founding going forward. i think those are things that people want to latch onto about a candidate who understands the policy side and will bring forth the values that make us great.
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susan: a little bit difficult -- so many people are in that room -- a lot of space. a lot of cameras. kelly and moved on just as we got to her. in's go back to the calls the interim. next is bob and henderson, north carolina on our other line. bob, what did you think about the debate? caller: i usually watch is bestes who i think for office. i cannot pick either one of them if they cannot stand topic. they always seem to bleed off into other ideas and information than staying with the topic of the question. susan: what issues are most important to you this year? caller: pardon me? susan: what issues are most important to you this year? caller: i'm retired military.
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i would be more in line with what they are when to do for the defense of this country. get the military backup where it belongs. thank you. rudy giuliani was making the round of the sunday talk shows to support the donald trump campaign and crisis management after the last 48 hours. he was just in the spin room. let's listen to what he had to say. >> these women have been victimized for years by both hillary and bill clinton. they have been called names. it has been suggested there's something wrong with them. they wanted to be heard. they wanted to be heard. >> d think it will make a difference in the race? >> no. [indiscernible]
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she just wandered on and on and on. shabbat [indiscernible] -- >> [indiscernible] still going on and on and on. mr. drum made it clear why he would do about taxes. woulde it clear what it do about isis. he made it clear what he would do about immigration. top secreth information being revealed. she never answered for destroyed 33,000 emails. >> [indiscernible] other side, you saw a
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person who has been a failure as secretary of state. that whole story about everyone can. give me a break, hillary. i was a prosecutor. she said sometimes you have to say something different in public than you do in private. called lying. i think the momentum is when to switch like that. >> [indiscernible] >> that's not a distraction. these women want to be heard. they have a right to be heard. thats going to attack like -- she has to take responsibility for attacking those women. if you listen to them, they said
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it was not just that bill clinton raped them and assaulted them, hillary clinton attacked them. one of them was a 12-year-old girl. clinton got the rapist acquitted and laughed about it. >> [indiscernible] >> she danced around it, talked around it. destroyed her emails. be a prosecutor. you could go to jail for that, folks. that is more new york mayor rudy giuliani in the getting aspin room,
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sense of how chaotic the scene is in that room after one of these debates. the final debate is in las vegas. i mentioned earlier it is on october 19. a back to the panel, the two candidates at the podiums -- peter slen, what you have for me? john a cost of -- bill clinton accusers working the spin room right now. scorched earth. erik erikson tweeted out -- donald trump improved. hillary clinton was defensive. america is screwed. we will go back to your phone calls and tweets in your reaction. on twitter -- i'm supporting governor johnson because hillary
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felt policies are anti-capitalist and trumpets is flip-flopped on almost everything. supportingco, hillary clinton. go ahead. want to start by saying i actually supported bernie sanders at the beginning of this whole election season and i have since moved on to support secretary clinton. i just feel like donald trump substance. his business ventures have not been as successful as he tells. his own clothing line is manufactured outside the u.s. -- if he cannot start with his own company's grading jobs in the u.s., i don't know how we will do that for the rest of the country. as treatment and justification of women is disgusting and the fact that people chop this up to locker .oom talk is pretty terrifying and this country was founded as an inclusive nation and his rhetoric is the exact opposite.
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itifactcheck out pol scorecard, his mostly false and statements are pretty ridiculous. i just encourage people to check out the facts. you are a bernie sanders supporter, i'm sure you heard the story about the wikileaks leak of hillary clinton's speeches to wall street and perhaps having a different set of policy positions for wall street then she would be espousing on the campaign trail. those are themes that bernie sanders brought up on the campaign trail. did you have a reaction when you were hearing that story unfold? , your: yeah, i think that know, the release of those documents are obviously really .nflattering to her
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in terms of the economy and he was going to be able to make the economy work for the vast majority of americans is hillary clinton in my opinion. so, i feel like she deftly has to answer for some of those in the speeches and that's where i stand. thanks much for calling it. next up, patricia in ohio, supporting donald trump. good evening. good evening to you, too. first, i want to say i'm a senior citizen now. but since i was 21 years old and given the right to vote at that time, i have voted democratic. but i cannot vote for hillary , so i havea democrat switched over to donald trump. i do not see hillary clinton as a truthful, honest person. she is hiding too much. allow donald trump is not
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that honest either, but there is somewhat of a sincerity with him more than i see with hillary clinton. that is why i switched over. 48 hours agopened was offensive, i am offended by that, but i am not shaken by that. i am more shaken having bill white house in the with his history of womanizing. and i can say that because i have been sexually assaulted myself. with those four women on the debate, i feel more for them on what bill clinton did then trump's comments.
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hillary clinton has been deemed a felon by the head of the fbi, even though there is no prosecution against her at this time. i think what she did in benghazi was bad and how she treated the families of the victims of -- i just don't see any positive changes with hillary clinton in the next four years as i see with donald trump. host: i have no idea how this has come down to this. ims so terrified tonight to be an american. you are on the air, supporting secretary clinton. want to say how are people calling it a clinton a hypocrite, and he is going to ?uild a wall i thought america was the land of the free.
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he said that she has hate in the heart, but he is the home with a lot of hate. he acts like he likes like people and mexicans, and yet, he wants to builde a wall to keep all illegal immigrants out of this country, and yet, it does not make any sense because he is supposed to be a man to represent our country. hillary clinton may not be the best person on this earth for the job, that i think she will do a better job than he has because he is not the man for the job. susan: thank you. can i ask how old you are? caller: 17 years old. susan: you will not be able to vote this time around? caller: no, i won't. if i do chance to vote, i would vote for hillary. susan: have you ever been this interested in politics before? caller: no, ma'am. i am into it right now because
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that man is a disgrace and i cannot believe -- i cannot believe we have people in my school that want to vote for him. susan: thank you for watching c-span at age 17 and calling us tonight. good to hear from you. next we will go back to the spin room, as it is called. next we will hear from joel benenson, the chief strategist for the clinton campaign. let's hear what he had to say to the media. >> [indiscernible] it's not about an isolated quote here or there. what we're focused on is the majority of the american people. [indiscernible] threats in them world like those from russia. and he is going to create the jobs --
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>> [indiscernible] >> this is the biggest country we get energy from. it was a ? energy. >> [indiscernible] >> and the e-mail that was released -- [indiscernible] she talked about this issue when she was secretary of state -- you can go find it -- she spoke
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about energy. it's what we are doing already. her getting a lot of energy from both of those countries and being able to do it more freely will help the entire country. >> [indiscernible] >> entirely, and she set it as secretary of state. you go look up a record. susan: that is what it is like in the media center. , the chiefl benenson strategist for the clinton campaign. tom writes -- bernie supported, a basement dweller and a bucket of losers. i am in a bucket of deplorables now. will create jobs. is 1 -- trump does not pay taxes, but his supporters think that hillary is not held accountable? good lord. knowhis 1 -- how can we
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trump or clinton would not change their plans for america? i'm not sure of credibility just yet. from twitter -- trump is an outsider the establishment fears. hillary is a corrupt career politician. slen.o peter the trump facebook page -- once again the media shows its true colors. i was supposed to be debating crooked hillary. league. 1 -- big former representative gabrielle giffords, who was shot and tucson several years ago, democrat from arizona -- hillary clinton showed tonight she is the only candidate in this race who is prepared to be commander-in-chief. this is cheryl atkinson's tweet, longtime cbs journalist and author -- her
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go to mytatus quo, website to fact check his lies. his themes -- she lies, we need big change. hi, you are on. caller: unfortunately, i have to award this to donald trump. i was not even born in the united states. i came from russia. [indiscernible] i came here completely legally -- it actuallyy save my life. it's not just me who was saved.
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that is why i can agree with donald -- [indiscernible] make changes and not just be a political person, who learns from her husband how to speak. and that would be my position about tonight's debate. all right, ethan, also from orlando on our other line. do you have a candidate? caller: at the moment, i do not. i do believe trump would be a detriment to this country. i do not believe he represents working class as he has not paid taxes. he has no basis to speak on
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roads, failing infrastructure. he is not part of the working class. if i had to choose a candidate, i would probably choose clinton. as a youngfortable man that i would have to grow up in this country run by donald trump. jessica isks, and next with her reaction. a trump supporter in hanover, pennsylvania. you are on, jessica. you foryes, thank giving me time to speak. i support donald trump to rid not because i agree with what he says all the time as far as -- [indiscernible] it is donen race, quite often, we are blinded by the race issues and by the ,-mails and by his tax evasions and the american people are completely blinded by what is going on. and they can't see because they
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are being played by both sides. the reason i want to vote for trump is because clinton will lie to your face and stab you in the back. she has done it before. she will do it again. i think trump is the best thing ever -- no, i do not. but when it comes to picking the lesser of tw, i will pick trump. that is where i stand. i do not think every clinton will make any changes in our country, and the ones that she does i think will be very detrimental to our nation. susan: let me ask you a question. who was just on, he asked a question, when they asked was the one thing you respect her like about each other, what did you think about that exchange? caller: it was very interesting. i commend trump for saying
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something nice to someone he and not havingor to spend it at the end of again like hillary clinton did. hillary clinton gave him a compliment about his children, which is great, and she decided to talk about resulting again. donald trump gave a complement directly to her and he was nice. it does not change the fact that i think she is horrible and a horrible person for our presidency, but at least he can and not havement to make it all about himself again at the end. susan: thank you for participating in our program tonight. it's 36 minutes past the hour. we will be here until the top of the hour. next we are returning to the spin room. you will hear from kellyanne conway, who is the trump campaign manager. >> kelly and, you know that trump is not comfortable in all
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respects with this part of the campaign conversation. [indiscernible] why? was not a it counterpoint. i agree what tiller clinton said in a tweet in november 2015 -- and she said it publicly at the same time -- all victims of sexual assault deserve to be heard and believed. i think that hillary clinton is right. but there are sexual assault victims that have names like running a project -- that have names. that is hillary clinton andnding rapists aboutbragging an --d bragging about her great ability. that woman is here tonight. about hillary clinton's fitness to be
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president of the united states sheamerica should know -- blames and shames when they are involved with her husband. "the new york times" turned around and said they give a great story about how hillary created a story with the private investigator, the plainly, the shaming of the women. so, if hillary clinton is going to bring up this woman or that speech, it's perfectly all right to introduce america to her past. go.r: we will let you the republican defections over the weekend. what effect do you think this debate will have? : i appreciate you admitting that this was a great debate for donald trump. major: i didn't actually say
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that -- it would have to be. i think that was premature. do you really want to hand the next three or four judicial nominations for the united states of bring court to hillary clinton? do you really want her to raise taxes? do you really want her to be commander-in-chief when she failed in syria with a ridiculous russia reset and benghazi? major: will you welcome them back? e: i will always welcome them back. and i will welcome back those who have never come around. susan: that is kellyanne conway speaking with major garrett from cbs news. let's look at some more of between we have gotten in -- more of the tweets we have gotten in.
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deplorablenavywife says -- as an a.b. spells, hillary clinton presidency scares me. i am worried we have officially become a one-party system. republican party needs to get their act together. here is one more. i care most about the economy and foreign policies. even if i cared about what clinton supporters care about, and hill wouldn't help. supporter, teresa, you're on. go ahead. i just want to say something to donald trump supporters. really, when he says those comments about as being poor blacks in the inner cities, it's appalling and defensive and he's not talking to us. that does not reflect me. he has not pay taxes for 20 years. he plans to give people like themselves a bigger tax break. you talk about closing loopholes, he is going to create some more. he is going to rip the top off of it.
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he plans to give those people at the top a tax break. they are going to buy bigger cars, bigger houses and other about the billions they have. in any case, it's really appalling, and i just -- i can't speak enough to the american people that don't be fold by that "we are going to make a comment. we have a person, governor snyder, in the state of michigan, promised that same change. make a change, making it great, making it better. this is a businessman, came in, and to save $6 million switched flint water around. now it is costing not just michiganders, but it is causing -- costing the american people. businessman do not care about anything but the bottom line. they do not have a concept of human people and the human
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aspect that needs to be put into the equation. they won't. and we are going to be held in handbasket if we don't wake up and you may not like hillary, if you want to talk lesser of the evils, he is the epitome of evil. there is no lesser to him. susan: ok, that was from detroit. next, lakeland, florida on our other line. do you have a candidate, jack? caller: i do not. i tried to stay as independent as possible. what i try to focus on with debates, especially with the individuals we do have, i try to focus on the facts. hillary clinton for 1 -- i have worked for the federal government. of the degradation of e-mails like that is a federal crime. even classified documents or documents that could be considered very sensitive could be criminal in order to misuse or misjudge any of them.
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benghazi -- multiple americans killed. more than 600 requests for help. on the other side, we have donald trump -- a job creator who says, yes, he supports inner cities, and you know what, he has proved it over times. supporting those areas. not just jobs for women and men, but multiple minorities. they are all graded on what they can do not who they are or what .ex they are hillary clinton says that she supports him. we are looking at a huge decrease in our nation's
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knowledge from common core, which she supported by the way. we do have to look at certain facts. withinre many problems the united states, but the administration -- supported by the president and the former secretary of state -- have not put their foot down and started supporting our police who are trying their best to prevent all of these things from happening. we really need to look at what they have done in the past in order to look at what america can be in the future. from: thank you, jeff lakeland, florida. peter slen, what do you have? peter: we saw kellyanne conway in the spin room. to others -- here is the headline. i would talk to some of the
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members of congress out there. i remember when i was younger and prettier, then rubbing up against girls, sticking their tongues down women's throats. chris true." conway told matthews during a postdebate interview. some on the list of people who want support donald trump because they ride around on a high horse, conway said. that is an politico. prior to the debate in a preshow to a correspondent with "u.s. news and world report" and he tweeted this out -- from michaelet hirsch of politico magazine. "amazing the trump video comments have not been more of an issue tonight." here's another journalist. she has written for "the week,"ton post," "the
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and some other places. i keep wanting to turn up the tv and then i think, if she can deal with this, i can do it, too. emily holden writes for "climate wire." i have never heard so many publicyell the f word in mdc, she writes. huffington post politics -- most americans do not think that hillary clinton should be attacked for her husband fell past. we also want to share this -- two more. debate -- calm, focused, substantive. trump one, hillary lost. , foreign policy magazine -- hillary clinton for president of the united states. this is the first time in their hasory "foreign policy" endorsed a candidate. host: we have 14 minutes left to go. number two.
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next up is a call from axel and tacoma, washington. do you have a candidate, axel? caller: currently i'm considering voting for jill stein. susan: what did you think of tonight's debate? caller: overall i was disappointed in how the moderators handled the debate. too much emphasis was put on the personal problems with each other instead of follow-up questions on policy positions. for example, trump said something along the line of tax es on the wealthy -- he said, oh, we are going to lower taxes because that would help with that, i guess. no follow-up question. clinton said having safe zones and mandating a no-fly zone in syria -- which could argue leave the misconstrued as an act of war and might require a military might in the region to be increased -- no follow-up question on that either. thank you for your call.
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back to the spin room. we will hear from brian fallon, a clinton campaign spokesperson. >> [indiscernible] >> she has been spending at fighting for women and families. [indiscernible] >> [indiscernible]
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>> he could not control himself, could not sit down. he was pacing throughout the evening. invading her personal space, meandering around her when she was answering questions. he was menacing. rambling and incoherent, everything from health care to syria. i think he was the one trying to unnerve her and put her on her heels and she seems like the only one you could picture in the oval office making the decisions the president needs to make. [indiscernible] >> complacency is the one thing we need to guard against. despite all of the turmoil in the trump campaign, it will still be a close race. susan: that is the clinton campaign perspective in the spin
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room tonight. back to twitter -- next is a call. linda, georgia, supporting hillary clinton. hi, linda. caller: hi. i want to say that i am 66 years old and i have never registered to vote for a presidential election. but if the lord lets me live to in the morning, i am going to be voting for hillary. i think she will do a better job for trump -- then trump because trump does not know how the middle class and lower class people have to live. and i believe she does. linda, what about this election is motivating you to register to vote for the first time?
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trump first said he was going to run, he came out and i thought he might be a good one. everything is derogatory against, you know, something that he don't like. and hillary is not responsible lor what build on -- what bil done. bill is the one who will have to answer to the world. and there's no telling what donald has to answer to. susan: thank you, linda. hillary clinton cannot be held accountable for crimes against the country, then trump can't be for regrettable words as a citizen. next up, a call from kenny, trump supporter. hi, kenny, you're on.
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caller: thank you. i often been a trump supporter since day one. he is not a polished politician like clinton. he is a person that is truly for the united states. she never tells the truth of our leaving and i know this personally because i have been to politics. i don't want to get into it. what about the war with isis? she has taken money from every middle east country over there. but yet, she wants to run for president or she wants to be
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president, but yet, here is our young people that is over there fighting and they come back in time boxes. -- one young man, stumps, no arms, just and here recently he just got arms put on that someone donated. their son died. anyhow, it's going to take him a year to get feeling in his fingertips any asked to work -- to jump in.got we are running out of time. we've got lots of folks wanting to get an a comment. peter slen, what do you have? peter: this is from twitter government. they say hillary clinton gained 25,000 followers during the debate and donald trump gained 16,000 followers. they also have the top retreated tweet during this presidential
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election -- and is one we have already seen. this was the author and cuny i'm ayn professor -- muslim, and i would like to report a crazy man threatening a woman on a stage in missouri. lls have comepo out already. 57 percent say hillary clinton one, 34% say donald trump one. then you go to drudge and vote yourself. here is a tweet by newt gingrich. doing so well no republican should ever again mentioning getting a new candidate. trump is more than holding his own. khanhe statement that the family just put out, regarding
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donald trump's comments that their son gave the ultimate sacrifice -- "we know that our son is an american hero. we also know that donald trump is not telling the truth when he says he was against the iraq war. our son served this country with honor and distinction. and gave the ultimate sacrifice. the only thing that donald trump sacrifices is the truth." susan: we only have about five minutes, so i think that will be it for you, peter. thanks for finding those interesting tweets. let me turn to the public on twitter. trump's behavior shows a lot of skill to govern. he must focus on hillary, et al. she performed with a usual focus on issues. california, supporter of hillary clinton. i want to say i don't understand what people see and trump. i know personally someone who was a cocktail waitress years
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ago in one of his casinos. groped justnally about every cocktail waitress there because he thought they were his property. that is what he thinks of women. he outsources all of his jobs. going -- whates jobs are he going to create in this country? this man is out for himself and only himself. i don't understand why people don't see that. a similar comment from twitter -- richard up next in fort lauderdale, florida. a big night for florida colors. -- for florida callers. caller: thank you for taking my
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call. i'm really annoyed at the conduct tonight, the media's refusal to vet hillary clinton on her e-mails, honor speeches for wall street, -- also the press will conduct in totally supporting hillary and not vetting her at all, not asking her questions about substance and issues that have come up. this country is about to go off the cliff in actuality. our debt situation, our standing paste world -- for the eight years, we have been leading from behind. president obama started off his eight-year term by his apology tour. i knew that was the beginning of the end.
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the supreme court upcoming appointments will affect this nation for generations. abortion is killing the unborn, not a woman's right to choose. it's killing the unborn. i'm fully for conservative judges on the supreme court. it would change that situation. and i have seen factories and plants being built in mexico, taking thousands of american jobs. i see it on a regular basis. susan: i've got to jump in, richard. we're running out of time. think trump -- i handled this better than expected, trump one. hi, carl. caller: hi, susan. think for taking my call. i was when to say a couple of other things, but a couple other
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people said it -- especially jamie earlier, as far as this con man being a legitimate candidate of a major party. lincoln was invoked earlier tonight. people fool some of the all the time. thank you. as we wrap up, let me tell you about the candidates and where they will be over the next couple days over the campaign trail and what we will see on this network. hillary clinton tomorrow to 45 easterntime -- 2:45 time will be in detroit. we will have live coverage. donald trump will be at a campaign rally in average, pennsylvania. you will see that live at 3:30 ..m. eastern time governor pence is on the campaign trail. he will be visiting states like north carolina and ohio. that is it for our coverage of tonight from all presidential
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candidate debate live, but right now we will be bringing it to you in its entirety as a rear air -- as a rear and think you for being with us. a re-air and thank you for being with us.