Discussion Focuses on the Civil Rights in the Trump Administration CSPAN November 26, 2016 8:00pm-10:09pm EST
all current justices with links to see their appearances on c-span, as well as other supreme court videos available on demand. although the supreme court at c-span.org. -- follow the supreme court at c-span.org. >> tonight, the discussion of the state of civil rights after the 2016 election. senator ben sasse of nebraska shares his thoughts on how american values are affecting entitlement reform, education, and economic prosperity in the u.s. with the recent death of former cuban president fidel castro, we will show you an address he gave to the cuban national assembly in 2010 just a few years after officially stepping down from power. earlier this month, several leaders and scholars gathered to discuss 2016 election results and the state of civil rights, including the right to vote.
this conference took place in a new work, new jersey, hosted by the institute of the black world 21st century. this is two hours. salama like him -- praise the lord. and every greeting that we know as a people. i think the mic can just stay up . we are thankful for everyone's patience as we work out our sound issues. get right to the program because we're behind schedule. am also known as mark thompson. i am the protege of dr. ron daniels, but the host of "make it plain" on sirius xm satellite radio. we are broadcasting live right
now on sirius xm progress. the media here at c-span is here. i will you know at the outset, we unfortunately have commercial breaks. if we take a break and come back and one of the speakers is in the middle of speaking, and io may need to jump in and reset you and reintroduce your name. [laughter] julie,know with hopefully everyone knows her voice and others. the man who envisioned not only , but envisioned our first state of the race conference in 1984 and conference since then, as a clearinghouse to bring us all together for the sake of unity
and self determination. he was one of the organizers we saw of the black political convention film. he was the candidate for president himself and 1992. he managed the campaigns of jesse jackson in 1984 in 1988, distinguished professor at york college right here in the city and the president and founder of the institute of the black world, please give a round of applause. [applause] thank you. thank you. we have some difficult days. we have some certain violences running through the system. we must have been hit by the
trumpocrisy. but we are going to prevail. it is nation time, right? it is nation time. alright. say wef all, we want to are honored that our host is with us tonight. hereonorable ras baraka is to post this meeting. [applause] we are delighted to be here honoring one of the great political activist, cultural icons, we are here honoring him also. obviously a critical moment in history. we want to get into the discussion. the whole world is washing and waiting to see and hear what it is we have to say. we want to thank c-span for doing this and other media.
particularly we want to thank inius xm, where i get to sit for my beloved friend reverend mark thompson. i want to get right into the discussion. to my left, and she always likes to be on the left -- the leading political economist, dr. julian malveaux.ulianne give it up for her. attorney williams, president of the national congress of black women. [applause] i skipped over the amazing one, who has the largest network of black professionals in the world. professionalsack all over the world, george
frasier. [applause] right here from newark, he ,as been here for a long time the people's organization for progress, chairman larry hamm. [applause] brilliant sister, who is an emerging faith leader, she is the coordinator of political action and the dean of the indirect and memorial chapel at howard university, reverend middleton. [applause] for the center for collective justice in oakland, california, and movement with black lights, chinyere
tutashinda. [applause] and a brother we have watched develop over the years throughout stuff with katrina. and the person, who over the where's this helped mobilize and organize the black vote to be relevant, nonpartisan, but not frelevant, our dear beloved iend for the national coalition on black civic participation, melanie campbell. [applause] our friend for many years from howard university. basicallyically -- my dad.
please welcome back mark thousand. [applause] mark: thank you dr. daniels. we are going to get right into our conversation and begin with the first question. as dr. daniels said, rather than ask general questions, what is your reaction to the election? we wanted to have a more guided discussion. the first question each panelist is welcome to answer from left to right, what role did raise -- suppression voter play in these election results? race played a major role. can you all hear me? white folks did it for mr. trump.
did you say chump? julianne: yes. it runs with trump. -- rhymes with trump. african-american women were the strong supporters of hillary rodham clinton. 13% african american men. -- african-american men went for mr. trump. 13% latinos and asians went for mr. trump. role, that race played a white folks can together, but it was also class and culture. hillary clinton counted on solid educated white women as a base. 45% went 51% clinton, trump, and the other 6% to whomever side. i can't find aleppo. [laughter] while nine educated white women -- not educated white women went
for trump is expected, she took a big slide in her base. she got a 6% bump, not the 20% bump that she needed. the $50 million that she has in the bank melanie, belongs to you, belongs to the national coalition of black civic participation. that is who came through for her. [applause] race absolutely played a role. we have never seen why people act in this kind of solidarity. this is in reaction to the presidency of barack obama. carolina to stop for hillary -- stump for hillary. on a brother who said he did not do early voting. i asked, why not? he said in high point north carolina, there were eight open floating places in 2012.
in 2016, there was one. where was the one? it is a courthouse. the brothers said, i've got warrants. i'm not going to the courthouse. pry into his business. he had a parking ticket. i hope that he pays child support too. in any case, the bottom line is that you have 800 fewer voting places nationally in general. and for early voting, you have about 2000 fewer voting places. north carolina was one of those where you saw serious voter suppression. in durham, north carolina, the heavily black areas, the polling places were not working for the first two hours. people had to go to court to get them extended. if you stood in line in the were notyou necessarily coming back in the
afternoon. in some key states, there was a democratic loss of tens of thousands of votes. you had hundreds of thousands of voters taken off of the roles. north carolina, philadelphia, michigan, people literally taken off the rolls. we did have 45% of registered voters not voting, and that is a problem. but we also have people who were registered that were taken off the rolls that did not take time to do provisional ballots. said this was rigged, it was rigged. they had been raking it the whole time. whole time.t the mark: if we can, i want to skip over to melanie campbell. what role did voters suppression play in the race? race played a major
role in this. julian talked about this. the other thing i want to take a close look at his that race also trumped age. when you look at who voted, yes black folks voted for hillary clinton, but i want to run this done for you. old gaveto 29 years trump 40% of their vote. whites 40 to 74, went to trump. older, 58% of their votes. , andyou look at the number i spent a lot of time in florida
bigd i am from the great cities of florida. kkk country. throw away from oak hill and all those other places. july, i saw it. the last couple of weeks i was in florida, in all of my years, i never pause in getting in the car to go to the drugstore to get anything. my brother stopped and said, you don't need to do that tonight. know, you might want to take my .38. i didn't, that when i got there, i wish i had it.
i had never seen that many militias, that many young -- not granddaddy, not great granddaddy, but the great-great-grandson's. in this greatshed united states of america a time that i have never lived through. we are at a place where we have to figure out, the numbers are the numbers, but white women decided that race mattered more than their own gender. at the end of the day, who would have benefited more than white women? there is a lot of blame to go around. we have to figure it out. i told our young people, you are going to find out what you are made of. this is a fight for the next 20 to 30 years. those of us that have been
around a while have to grab a hold of our young people and say look -- i have gone through a little bit of this growing up, but i have never seen the kind of overt racism. my hometown community is worried whether about what will happen won,em if hillary clinton what would be a backlash? who two in pennsylvania days before the election, she is an ame pastor who had a white woman who tried to run her off the road. if it wasn't for police officer, i would know what has happened to her. they tell me, you don't need to drive through here, he goes all you see is trump trump trump. the kind of racism in our middle schools and high schools and everywhere else. we have to unify in a way that we have not before.
because this is about resistance. [applause] that is all in going to say. mark: melanie campbell. [applause] larry: i just want to say i agree with the previous statements. race was the key factor. voter suppression was the modus theandi of the theft of election of 2016. this election was stolen, and it was stolen through voter suppression. as many as 6 million black people were kept from going to the polls. and that this did not start on election day. this started years ago. their plan was to get control of the supreme court, gut the voting rights act, discontinue preclearance. the day after the shelby decision, they introduced a
voter id bills in state legislatures across the country. they not only used voter id to suppress the vote, they used polling place reduction, they used roll purging. and it wasn't just in the south and states, it was all over the nation. it was a nationwide theft. and what we need to do, we need to look to the future. although we have one of the highest voting turnouts in any demographic, we need to start a national voter registration drive that will last for the and doubled the number of black voters in the united states. mark: i appreciate everyone's conciseness so far. since we have lost time, we want to keep remarks to two minutes.
we appreciate everyone's time. i want to get back to sequential order so we can get to everyone fairly. george frazier everyone. [applause] george: the answer to your question is yes and yes. it has always been between black folks and white folks. it has always been that. it will always be that for the next 100 years. black folks and white folks. race will always play a part in every major decision that has anything to do with the upward mobility of black people. race will always play a part. grown-ass people. we know this. [laughter] we must now use this. slatens we have a clean with the democratic party, with the republican party. think about this -- competition
is the lifeblood of our american heritage. isn't it interesting that we can now forced the republican party to compete with the democratic party for our votes going forward, if in fact the democratic party and orange man deliver on the promises he made to black people? if the republican party -- now trump said things and made promises to black people, that if barack hussein obama had said those things while running for president, he would have never made it to the presidency. but he made promises to us. will he fulfill those promises? will the republican party allow him to fulfill those promises? we must hold his feet to the fire. and our black pendants who roasted -- pundits who roasted
our president, i hope you will be as diligent in holding trump's feet to the fire in regards to what he promised for our vote. we had nothing to lose, he said that. [laughter] so we will see. now the republican party hopefully will deliver. and there will be a wonderful party, and now we will have trouble deciding -- do we want to vote democrat or republican? that is the same decision hispanics have to make. no one knows how they are going to vote, so both parties have to cater to them and put up like in their platform. the other opportunity we have is, how about our own party? how about coalescing around our own political strife? [applause] that could also be opened in some way.
that is my story and i'm sticking to it. mark: george fraser everybody. >> good evening to everybody. it is wonderful being here. i want to begin complementing my syria -- my sisters for knowing what they want to go after. we indeed are the targets. votingthe targets for for the person we thought would be doing the most for us, although she did not promise a lot of things. i had a similar experience, where everyone thought that i would win. and i know in my heart that i did win, but because my opponent was a white republican male, he was given the credit for it. so when the vote came in, i thought about my own race. i don't for one moment believe
that batman, who -- that that man, whose name i won't call, won the election. the race was stolen because of race. it was believed that hillary clinton was the candidate of what people into color, therefore she had to be defeated. it is also understood that the other person was the candidate of white people. yes, race played a huge part in this election. in fact, it was the main theme. as my brother next to me said, it was done through voter suppression. i have polled my white sisters. i have asked them, what am i supposed to say? i have spent so much of my life working not only for my right as a black person, but my rights as a woman. and as you know, we are not in the constitution. i have traveled all over this world working for a women's rights. what they said to me was, we
betrayed you. that we knew already. inave it in trice -- writing for so many white women leaders, that we betrayed you. let me tell you what else they said. they said every position that comes open, whether it's corporations or in the government, but that they should go to black women, because black women are smart, they have proven they can stick together no matter what people have said about us. we prove that we can cooperate. now it does not mean we are against you. it means that as black women we work not just for ourselves, we work for our entire family. and we will be demanding that kind of respect. but more than that, we need to expand ourselves and people who
have issues similar to ours. there are others out there who are not black -- i am not talking about white people. i don't have to work or answer to why people. white people don't do anything for me. there are many other people who have issues, who are discriminated against, to have similar problems. we've got to find them. we have to see where they converge, and where we can work together. despite the fact that it was somebody else's theme, we are stronger when we are together. faye williams, please give her up rose -- and was. the founding coordinator for cleveland action and associate dean of my alma mater. reverend middleton, please. >> i echo the sentiments already
expressed. voter suppression is an issue that impacted the election. several of our students traveled to north carolina and ohio and throughout washington dc. some in washington dc alone had to stand in line for six hours in order to vote. in ohio, there was a student who moved a couple times. she was removed from the ballot. one that had to wait for a provisional ballot. i want to talk about the exploitation of race throughout this election. being told that we only had two candidates, we only have two anointed chosen ones. but also the exploitation of our narrative. how painful it is to me as a daughter of charleston, one of my relatives was one of the person killed in a mother
emanuel -- and to see in addition to families with narratives similar to mine traipsed across this country and having their narratives exploited in order to support the ballot for someone to become elected. and so i wonder what happens to these mothers? what happens to the narratives of those families who have been exploited? that is an issue that is concerned in terms of race, and the exploitation of our people, the exploitation of our narrative. and what happens now in terms of talking about flint, michigan and the water crisis? what folks -- what happens now about standing rock and the black hills? where do we go now postelection? the candidates that did a really good job of being convenient in addressing these issues that's my concern is that now that we have been exploited and the election is over, what happens
to those narratives? i want to say as a person engaged in the movement for black lives matter, it is important to understand these young people help bring forth , when thesef race candidates wanted to ignore it. if it wasn't for black lives matter, i would wonder if we would have any discussion at all about race in this candidacy. [applause] i wanted knowledge and a from the role of our people in this movement and its impact on the election. mark: reverend waltrina middleton of howard university. we will focus on the role that reason voters version played in the election, speaking for the center of media justice and "blackout" collective, ms. tutashinda: thank you.
i am taking notes on my phone, it is a little rude i don't have a pen endpaper. also, thank you for inviting me here today and i'm excited be here amongst all of you all to join in this conversation. when thinking about race and the role it played in the election, i think we can think a lot about who voted for whom, and i think that is a good analysis to get an idea for the country is, but before that, the rhetoric of that donald trump is a candidate because he vilified president obama -- that is the only reason he even got to where he is. it started about race and it will continue to be about race. he continued to use that throughout his campaign.
build the wall is very explicit around mexicans and mexican immigrants. alk aboutued to to blacks and the inner cities as if they were synonymous you'd he went after white folks by using racialized language. the media just would let it go. we allowed that kind of language to continue on and on, and that is what has galvanized the people throughout the country, and white folks throughout the country who -- i won't say scared, but they are a little shaken up over where the country is. i think it has been about race, and the idea that it is the backlash from obama's election,
but also the liberation of black struggles. black people who have continued to fight for our rights and continued to look at policing and policing communities. wewe were not doing the work are doing, and to be honest, if we were not making strides and winning in the way we work, whether or not that is changing the conversation or bringing people together, he would not on.e w i'm not saying that is a good thing, but i am saying it was always about race and always a reaction to the work black people have done. >> thank you. give her a round of applause. [applause] >> i mentioned howard is my, myern, my undergrad was brother here, president of the
hip-hop caucus. give him a round of applause. [applause] and howard, too. i am older than he is, so i get to say that. >> in the spirit, let me say to the mayor, thank you. this is what we want to do, we want to elect more black mayors like yourself, that is one of the models we should look at. thank you for what you have done , and a thinkation
sometimes our generation does not understand your genius and model, from, your the black political convention, jesse jackson and others, it gives us a blueprint. that is important in conversations regarding race. first, let me say there were some positives about race in this election. let me give it up for another grad, kemaled, -- amala harris, from california. also, the first openly lgbtq governor in oregon. what has been said, it is right
in line with race, the voting being stolen, suppression, all of those things that we have ,eard, but i want to state this this was a repeat election. this was a repeat election. we have done this. for those of us who have been around long enough, i was not born, and for those who have been around, it will seem like deja vu when it comes to race. if you look back at richard nixon in 1958 and hubert humphrey and what he did, how they used race then after dr. king was assassinated. how the peace movement was upset because humphrey was not radical enough. they said he was too mainstream, humming in his vice president -- coming in as a vice president. nixon said he was the law and
order candidate. hubert humphrey came in and was playing with the vote him and the movement came forth and said, listen, he is the lesser of two evils. people did not vote and nixon won. nixon began to put folks in the fbi, he began to wage war on peoples across the land, and i will come back to this, but we need to free up many of our jailners who are still in while obama is still in office. lost inrocess, when he is important because we doubled the race then, creating the congressional black caucus, dealing with race.
moment.ind of a bernie mcgovern got lambasted. i think nixon got almost like 5000 votes. i think he won one state, massachusetts and that was it. next in was a crook him and he left. because we are repeating something, how are we fortysomething years later, in the same place that we were then? in can we be having this 1972, dealing with humphrey and mcgovern, having deja vu with the clinton and sanders, and in some cases having less power? how can we have more members of the black caucus, more black governors, more black mayors, and still not have power in discussing race? i think our conversation should
impotentre our people in the 21st century? peoplenot holding our accountable for doing what they need to do from the congressional black caucus, a black mayors, so that when they get our vote in they get in office and they don't do anything, and they turn to big-money and corporations and tobacco companies and all of those things, and take money for young folks-- when see that, they don't want to be part of that game. we have to draw a line in the sand as we did in 1972 and begin to say, how can we truly be a black lyrical power in the 21st century? [applause] >> all right.
>> on the issue of race, donald trump was not elected by the people. if we had direct democracy in the united dates, hillary won 2 million votes. the electoral college was put together to get the slaveholding colonies in the south more power and it should be abolished. abolished the electoral college. let's have direct democracy and direct elections. hamm.t was larry >> quickly. every president has used race. there was a brilliant book written in the early 1990's called "nixon's piano." it talked about how every
candidate has used a bullhorn to talk about race. bill clinton went to a conference and signaled to white people that he was not that close to reverend jackson. you remember that. he's that place to disrespect. we can look at other candidate. to my sister at the reagan movementooking at the for black lives, we've never heard the words reparations come out of a candidate's lips until the young people from black lives confronted ernie and bernie and hillary. we have to look at the way our people have been used as a on on a chessboard on the beginning of
time to deal with these electoral issues, and why what we have has failed to take some of that power. ralph nader has talked about a 50 state strategy. hillary clinton did not go to wisconsin. it was lost by less than 1%. milwaukee, a big group of black voters, she got about 70,000 fewer than president obama. had she shown herself there one time, she might have done better. but we have to look at every state, not these battleground states. in 2018, they're going to be more democratic senatorial seats up, we have to be clear about what our role is in dealing with these states and taking them back. in terms of the whole third, fourth, fifth party whatever, i
would rather have preferential voting, ranked voting, and let those votes roll over. so if you want to express yourself by voting for jill stein or gary johnson, where is aleppo -- i will never get over that. [laughter] ms. malveaux: never. but you can do that and have your ranking. the second thing is, why are we not starting now in terms of looking at who is there? , someone saidg mayor baraka is here, where is he? always that you. cool beans. some of the other young brothers, we need to start
running people in posses. there is a cult of personality in a posses. run them in tens and 20's. we cannot afford to get into this cold and personality -- called the personality. not met youi have before. do, and ihave work to know you are running the show, but i'm not cannot you say that you raised me, i raced you. i own old. i am old and cold and i enjoy every moment of it. please go ahead.
>> and think before you begin to look at any party, let us look at our elect world revolution for ourselves. we need to do this work. i was told long ago, he who finds you is he who controls you -- funds you is he who controls you. before we go out asking people for money, we need to figure out ways that we ourselves can make sure we understand how important the electoral activism is, go out and get resources to do that kind of work, and then go out and do it. , that is why can't we graduate to these states. we are chess pieces. because we are not playing aeckers, when we do have
obama,harris or barack we should be in a position to have a different conversation about political activism in the 21st century. [applause] boating is not the most you can do, voting is literally the least you can do. we do this every two years, this get out the vote, no -- that take away from the obama administration was this. you don't get fed if you don't bring your plate to the table. we did not ask president obama for much, so we did not get much. if hillary had gotten in, there is a long list of stuff we were supposed to ask her for. hemp is in there, he claims cares -- what did you call him, applecial head -- pinep
head? anyway, i don't think he is going to keep his promises. we need to hold him to those. the bottom half. we need to be in those local areas. holding a local brother accountable. holding anyone who is gotten our vote accountable so that we are able to build. do you want to chime in on this? ms. tutashinda: i'm trying to figure out the best way to say what i want to say. the conversation is back and forth and i think the electoral college is important, but it is important to an end. if we collectively as black people either in our communities, in larger cities or
ton out of states, not mention a national strategy. we can continue to vote people in and think we are going to have different results, and we can look back to when we had black governors and black mayors all over the place and conditions did not change for black people. a lot of those cities got worse. are a lot of external reasons for why that happened, and we understand that and we understand the external pressures, and we have to do different. we cannot continue to vote people in and expect them to represent us and give us the same thing. learn that from obama, we did not learn anything else. i think having an electron strategy makes sense, but it is one strategy. it only works in you have a community process that has community goals that is then pushing a community strategy, that election and the person who
is elected is responsible for. until we have that process and continue to elect people, and register people to vote, it is going to give us the facts same result over and over again. >> yes. want to reset for those who are listening to the 2016 presidential election, the implications for the pan african world. let me say this and still be loved. [laughter] >> yes i am black, in case you are not entirely sure. that is the beauty of our culture and race. we have lots of options. story. another we are the only culture to put
political empowerment over -- we all of these officials and we are still at the bottom of the heap. that means you cannot do it by politics alone. how dare we put that kind of pressure on our political leadership? we are no full's. we were not born last night. we are all impacted by the politics of inclusion, so yes, we must continue to use our vote, the power of our vote to empower those who empower us. action is onof the the lower parts of the ballot. a president can make a difference, we know that. but we cannot get where we are going like politics alone. [no audio] : that is a small part
of it. the bigger piece of the equation is what we do for self. that is really what is going to come down to at the end of the day. cake, and are the whoever is in the clinical position is the icing on the cake. but we are the cake. , it isr we are going because we are going to take ourselves there. let me say this a different way. white folks will not be saving black people, i am sorry. it has been 400 years and we are not saved. [applause] so we need to bless
and release this, moveon, do what we need to do by us and let the chips fall where they may. >> ladies and gentlemen, that was george fraser. wanted tos, i think, say something, and we are going to shift gears. dr. daniels: time is tight. but i wanted to say a couple of things about election that have not been said. first and foremost, the biggest political party in america today is not democrats and republicans, it is not voters. we have the lowest per
dissipation of any western democracy. did not voteeople in this most recent election. 100 million. in a low participation environment, hear me now, in a low participation environment, if you are talking about strategies, those who register and vote in high numbers win. i'm saying that because, no matter what -- i know there is suppression, that they suppress, we have to break to the barriers. when they moved the polls, we should not let anyone turn us around. we had a lot of discussion about this and that. they were both flawed candidates. but when you talk about being flawed, you have to do a scorecard. what would candidate one do on the supreme court versus
candidate two. the consumer protection agency, the environmental protection agency. i don't know much about this, but the difference between the is notts and republicans inconsequential. your votes matter. be in onee court will election cycle. i agree with my sister from the movement for black lives. we need to build the political process. we need to get back to it. in the interim, we have tactical decisions we need to make. the supreme court is lost from us 20 years, it is like a plessy versus ferguson decision that has been made. while we've been sitting around, some of us, well, i don't like her. i didn't ask you to like her.
interest,anent black that is what we have to deal with. we are getting ready to have a civic lesson we have not had for a lot of people who don't understand how this works. it matters, it really does matter in terms of the affordable care act, all of these things, and the lives of people really matter. -- isnot a question of like a simplicity versus complexity. it is simple, it is simplistic to say, the lesser evil. but no, it is complex. we have be able to deal with the complexities because we are mature people, and mature people make complex decisions. we have to begin to do that. i did not want to go off, but i am passionate about this. i want to return because we want to hear from our mayor. he has a lot to say about things.
give dr. daniels a round of applause. [applause] >> some of us were talking earlier. i hope history ultimately is forgiving of us because a lot of us follow personalities and folks on tv. day, but on tv every should have been listening to dr. ron daniels. onlyaniels has been not our scientists but our organizer, as well. i can think back on calais occasions when he gave good counsel. what do we do? don't want to be the leader of the movement, all that kind of crowd in a barrel stuff.
i had a woman, the other day who said, mark, black people don't barrel . in a we're going to shift around question wasext about policy, but because we time earlier, the radio broadcast will go off, and i want our people around the world to hear my brother. we've known each other for many years. in 1989g is, we met when i was at udc. i went over to support the howard student movement. udcthen when we had protest, the howard students
came over. in between, all of you millennials and whatnot, i know some of us look old. we did this back then. students used to go to virginia beach every year. some of you remember that. us.989, the police beat we've been dealing with this for a long time. we organized in 1990 the student voice cut against virginia. nobody went to virginia beach again after that. this is nothing new. please welcome, and we honor his father -- i have to say this, the pollen that his father wrote -- poem that his father wrote about george bush, it was one of my greatest moments when he read that on my show. we left of his spirit and his son who is continuing in his father's name. the mayor of a newark, new jersey.
mayor baraka. [applause] mayor baraka: thank you. it is an absolute pleasure to be here this evening. i know the sister said i am good. thank you, i am good, this is my city. because i am the mayor, everybody in here is good. anybody to worry about beating you on the way out, that is for sure. i try to take as many notes as possible, but i think there is a a lot ofnfusion and things that we think have been said, the young people pick up, a lot of it is a historical, and it gives us a false start in terms of how we should be and
how we should be organizing. a lot further ahead to me actually are. most of it is because we spent a lot of time attacking each other rather than our enemies. our enemies get away and we spend most of our energy beating on one another. i do want to say that there were electeden we would say, black officials didn't matter, i think that is absolutely ahis torical. reconstruction was probably the most important part for black people in history. that is have you got the 13th and 14th and 15th amendment. they were outright attacks, and they were betrayed by the democratic and republican , thees, they made a deal
s-tilden compromise. so many people were lynched. it was naked aggression on african-american families when that period happened. the other period is probably the 1960's, when we began to elect black mayors of major cities across america. the black middle class, for the most part. there was a huge black middle class the begin to grow because black folks with businesses who are making money. unfortunately, the folks who work in enriching themselves during this time it did not have
a social and political context and did not use wealth to fund a movement to do other things to get us further along. when those things happened, the conditions of our community remained. we call it a 5% nation. the 85% went to the leaders. and some of those cities still have white leaders today because of the black backlash. even if you think of david dinkins in new york. people were not completely satisfied it is funny we talk how flawedystem, and the system is, but we focus on individuals more than the system of health. when he could not defeat the system by himself in a way we thought he should defeated, people turned against him and told him to leave, and so he left, and as a result you got giuliani and bloomberg. 20 years of repression and that
community because we were not sophisticated enough to argue with the david dinkins but support him at the same time. [applause] mayor baraka: because we don't because we are not that sophisticated, this is where we are today. i agree with you, we need to build our agenda. that is probably the foremost thing we need to do. we need to do it again and stick to it and begin to understand we have to argue with each other. that is part of it. we have conflicts but it should not be deal breakers. just because we argue does not mean we walk away. if there are 10 things on the list, just because we don't agree with the first three, we don't throw the whole thing in the garbage. we unite behind the things we do agree upon. there are people coming together, they know they got unite around will
the unity of this country. , we have notement been sophisticated enough to unite behind the things that bring us together. we should have a compact to stay together always. that is fundamentally important. for me, i think there are a lot of issues with race. racenk part of it was that played a huge part, so did gender, in my mind, and so did class you'd all of these things played a huge part into why hillary clinton is not the president. after,thers me is that black people are still talking about the candidates. i'm glad this panel did not go thiat way. we talk about the candidates, and not the system. we talk about the electoral college that has disenfranchised us. i am glad it is been said straight out that it needs to go
away. that is exactly what needs to happen. some of these people on the tv have been talking about the voter rights act. no one has been talking about 300,000 people in wisconsin who did not vote to the voter ids. you take wisconsin, pennsylvania and north carolina, hillary lost by less than 300,000 votes in those states combined. thisy is talking about how was a plan to disenfranchised black people, brown people, working people around the country. another piece is, we have to have a united front against fascism. [applause] mayor baraka: that is clear. we cannot -- we have to understand who our enemy is. hitler was elected. , i got troubling to me
into a conversation with another elected official who doesn't look like me, who said he doesn't the gets fair we characterize all of the people who produce for donald trump as racist. i said, if they are not racist, they are racist sympathizers. [applause] mayor baraka: it would be intriguing to figure out, if we characterize all of the germans hitler if they were fascist or fascist sympathizers. they are willing to ignore his racism and misogyny and barbarism for the sake of their own interests. that means they are comfortable with an outright and physical attack on our community as long as it serves white supp premecy. [applause] mayor baraka: that is really what the problem is.
we have to understand that even will we get together as black folks in this country in we have an agenda, you have to understand we also have to unite with other people to win. the object is to win. we don't want just to struggle. there hundred of thousands in our community that have been jailed, eat, all kinds of things , we are not activists and revolutionaries because it is fun. my mother and father did not participate in the movement for edals, they did it because it wasn't necessary. mother missed a lot of birthdays, a lot of different things. we did not have a soccer mom because she was fighting for the people. at the end of the day, we romanticize sf two months -- romanticize that stuff too much.
we need unite people who have common interests. we are brown people who have common interests, poor people who have common interests, who don't understand they have voted against their own interests because trump right now is consolidating the wealth in america. wall street has never had a free pass in the united states government this easy then the 1920's. the. frank regulations are being overturned as we speak right now. he's going to appoint people to the fed, to all of these financial institutions that will make it difficult for us to do anything. the last thing i want to say is that we have to recognize our privilege. some of us in here are privileged. was black that, obama and was the president, and he had more privilege the most americans. we have to recognize our privileges. we can us are saying
afford to lose this election, maybe you can, but there are a lot of people who cannot. if they take housing. when you start taking money from public housing, it is terrible for people who live in of accounting -- in public housing. you don't live there. when they pull health care from people, stop funding the reduction of pharmaceutical costs, all of these things people benefit from in the community you don't have to deal with because you are privileged, because it you have a job and benefits. there are a whole class of people in our community that these things are going to hurt immediately. when they start affecting planned parenthood, when they start putting justices in there who wipeout voting rights and make it difficult for women to get access to health care, make it difficult for women to have representation, these things are
real life issues for americans, for black people and brown people in the cities who do not have certain privileges we have to come to these meetings all the time and do the things we do. we have to understand our privilege and make an analysis they some fact that we do have privilege. there are folks in my neighborhood who say, you can have a supermarket in your neighborhood because it will bring gentrification, you can get in your car and drive to another city and go to a supermarket and my grandmother has to shop at the corner store. your analysis has to be aced on your own privilege. meetingsow many pta have the people in here been to? how many churches have revisited? -- have we visited? how many citizens have been in places where our people are? we have to go to where the people are at, and then we have to go where the people are at. we cannot have an elitist
mentality that lets us believe we are so revolutionary we are pacifist. we do want to get involved in anything because everything is counterrevolutionary and we have is hard line that doesn't allow us to talk to or organize the people we are talking about in our community. [applause] mayor baraka: we're talking about organizing the people in our community, but we won't go to the churches where they are because the churches are counterrevolutionary. schools to go to the and churches were you people are at. you have to complain about the people who get elected, because the people in the community will not even listen to you. that my friends is the ultimate problem, because he organize in the community and not with the community. [applause] mayor baraka: right?
around, we have this really revolutionary line, and we are smarter and tougher, but we are not clear and our people are not clear because we have not politicize them. we may have to check the books we are reading, as well. thing coming along way. i was surprised, as most people were, but i saw the dysfunction in the left and the moderate and progressive elements of our community, in the party itself. thedysfunction, disorganization, the attacking, the individual worshiping, all of the things going on. everyone telling me, this person is flawed. i do not know anyone who has run for president ever that is not flawed. we have not ran revolutionary leaders. this is american democracy we are talking about.
you are running individuals for office, not for your individual organization. we have to understand that politically and begin to unite around the things that we have in common. if we don't do that, we will lose in the midterms, and in 2020 we will lose again. so we have to put our pride away and begin to organize, to organize ourselves. the trouble something i have is that people come to our community at the last hour and ask us to support them. at the last hour. they ask you to do something for them at the last hour, and when you don't do it, they say something is wrong with you and beat up on you for not having a progressive line. you just showed up. . you.'t even know you can hear yesterday. -- came here yesterday. how do you expect my people to become so about you? the idea is, if you want to
black folks, you have to come into our community today. all these liberal organizations, you can't come into our community without black leadership in those organizations. you have to have particularly black women leadership, in these unions, in these other organizations that are in our said,ity because, as was black women did what they were supposed to do in this election and tried to save us all. despite everything that was said and all of the stuff that was going on, they tried to save everybody. 90% strong. as usual, they tried to save us all from ourselves. women, black women, black men from themselves. in closing, when i was in city
hall, a kid came up to me, a mayor, cand said, you make hillary clinton the president? this was after the election. i said, i tried that yesterday. i was honest. it did not work. because in this country, the popular vote does not mean you become the president. and that is how we have to start explaining it. we do not have a democracy in america. [applause] mayor baraka: we do not have one person, one vote in america. they call it the republic. it is not a democracy. we have to continue the fight for a democracy. all of us have to fight together in our individual organizations. if you are not in an organization, you have a
problem. you have to be organized. when she get into an organization, you have to unite your organizations together around a common interest and you fight with other people who may not think exactly like you to begin to push the country further to become more aggressive, more democratic, more inclusive for more of us so we can get powerful people, -- power for people, not just individuals. [applause] mayor baraka: thank you. [applause] mayor baraka of newark, new jersey. [applause] example of then black elected leadership we were talking about. give him around of applause, ladies and gentlemen. [applause] now, are we circulating
index cards for questions and answers? some of you should be getting index cards to we can take questions from some of you. i think that between dr. daniels mayoryor brock a, -- baraka -- everybody should listen to dr. king's speech at the montgomery state capital. it blows white folks'minds. says, you were taught to vote against your own interests
because of racism. he said that black people were given the rival and white folks were given jim crow. even though some of these issues arise, that mayor baraka laid , black people start to hate us for that. dr. king talked about that. i would encourage everybody to hear what he had to say. i want to say first of all, i was glad we could get the mayor on. a plot our radio audience. they are about to leave. thank you to the serious xm was the ship -- sirius xm listenership. [applause] mark: i want to briefly go around and have our panelists share what is next.
what are the next steps that we need to be about. i think lennox alluded to some of them. as is real. even for democrats in the establishment, they conceded that 2018 is going to be rough on the senate. we may be set back even more. do,hat is it that we can how can we organize, and what will we do? i think one of the most important things coming up, the amazing, prophetic speech that the mayor of this great city -- give it up one more time for mayor baraka. [applause] yearwood: i know in 2017,
there will be two governor races in this country, one in virginia and one right here in new jersey. i cannot think of anybody who would be greater to move up the as ar then ross baraka next step. we can push him him and prod on him and work on him, and we can begin to have those. one of the things that is important is that we cannot voting with policy and legislation. that is very important. the endgame is policy and legislation. we have to realize that a billionaire is leaving his salary, i not take a , tok it will be one dollar
really be able to create policy as was said. that is the in game. game.dd demonstrating is important and i get the power of demonstrating, that demonstrating without legislation leads to frustration. endave to understand the game. that is our most immediate next step would the issues around the epa. i have to say this, around the gutting of that, the people of flint, it is right around four years since hurricane sandy. i am from louisiana, we went through katrina, what is going on with flint right now, and
then standing rock, this is real and people will die because of these policy decisions. we have to fight in a very vigilant fashion to ensure these things don't happen. we are going to have a lot of things that will be said, but i want to say that we still have a president who is still in office. donald trump does not take office until january 20, and we have the women's march on january 21 to greet him. i have to say this and i know they are watching, what was mentioned about us coming together, we must come together as a black and brown and red people, all people. we must come together. right now, who is watching, maybe some of them have been tweaking, standing rock is the next step. right now in north dakota, there is an amazing, peaceful
resistance going on. if black people come together 100% to support and stand with standing rock, i cannot think of a better next up than that. [applause] yearwood: we must demand that this president stand with standing rock. that they canceled the pipeline, first and foremost, and free those people and free the land. we must do with them as an immediate next step. mark: yes? ms. malveaux: one of the things we have to look at his local legislation. d.c., several cities have talked about a
higher minimum wage than the federal minimum wage. we need to look at local legislation. it is not a come from the top down now, it has to come from the bottom up. you never we talk about the senate, and that is important, we also have to talk about what cities can do. some cities have looked at eldercare issues, some cities have looked at environmental and climate change issues. mr. trump is not believe that there is climate change despite that you go to antarctica and see pieces of it falling apart. some cities have begun to talk about taxing emissions and things like that. i would urge people to look at what you can do at the city level. we have a lot of city councils that are very progressive. we can look at especially our urban areas still, despite gentrification, majority minority.
we can look at local legislation we can deal with. we can look at issues, especially, i believe mr. trump will do some things to remove discrimination laws and we want to solidify them at the local level. state legislatures also. i think what we're seeing and what we have been seeing since the mid-1990's is that state legislatures have paved the way for federal legislation, that but now 33 states are majority republican. while a lot of people poo-poo state legislatures, think we need to look at running people. i've heard a little bit of pushback about the political system, that is not the only way, but it is a way and an important way.
we cannot say either-or. i want to lift up mary and very -- marion berry. it will be two years next week since he passed. he created a whole bunch of millionaires and he even created himself as one. but he created a whole lot of other black folks as millionaires. he empowered a lot of young people, and he had a system that empowered a lot of young people, mayors.th he opened up the civil service so that more african-americans had employment in the city service. he was a flawed man with a vision, as everyone is. barber,quote reverend
who asked everyone to take a blood test will me talk about who you support. is 99.9%,e it and it take out your checkbook because that is your child. if your blood comes out 70%, you are related some kind of way. when we look at politicians, we don't want to look at whether they are perfect, are they our child, are they our kinfolk? and it doesn't have to be our skin folk, because not everybody who is brown is down. we have to broaden our focus. one of the things the profoundly disappointed me about these absence of the conversation about k-12 education. it did not come up at all.
college came up, but you cannot go to college if you've not been to k-12. i have done that, too, as a college president. that is another place where we need to talk about how we get involved. there are folks in texas who talk about having slaves -- textbooks in texas, because we have ignored school boards. that is another profound place for activism. we talk about next steps, take it local. all politics is local. it is as close as the water you ,rink, the water you bathe in the water you flush, and where the flesh goes, and where your children go to school. mark: thank you. is your mic up?
minister who is also an activist, i want to say it is important that we return to our prophetic voice exposing the strange fruit in our society and upholding the moral authority. one example of that is reverend jeremiah a wright was abandoned by the president of the united states for challenging the moral authority. now america challenges the moral authority of its president-elect. he was told to be quiet for speaking out against islamophobia. now america has elected president who is unapologetic in his divisive rhetoric. reverend wright was told he was an embarrassment to the nation and now our nation is a joke to the world. the prophetic voice of one who dared to speak to the reality of a thriving and robust state of racism in america was mocked and
reduced to jokes calling him the crazy uncle. now america has come to realize that the wisdom of the sage has been redeemed and the roosters have come home to roost. reverend wright was the proverbial bewildered uncle, then who is donald trump? our moral authority is quite critical and i think also, to echo my brother here, in addition to the role in the local community, we must also be prophetic in the diaspora. we have to be involved in palestine, we have to be involved in brazil, we have to be involved in haiti, we have to be involved in cuba, we have to be concerned about our sisters andbrothers in the diaspora ensure that as we are looking at legislation and laws the we are also concerned about how these legislation and laws impact the global community. thank you. [applause] mark: i have to one thing really
quick. -- because he said it on air earlier. we should have prayer for dr. wright who has suffered a stroke. we were on the radio earlier. him and, please keep our prayers. you are right in terms of everything you have said. sister, you were next. then, ron will come up into a commercial. then everybody else. >> the question was, what is next? i think a lot of things has been set. most of it i agree with. and i say as as in the broader people who are active in the movement for black lives. one, steady. have been in life are different places over the past months. people are overwhelmingly thrown off by what happened.
i was one of them. it means we were not paying attention. we were able to be that bill -- be will thereby what was going on. two, is understanding that capitalism will not save us. there is no way that if we are thinking about black people -- .nd i am imposing my opinion thinking about black people and uplifting our communities as we continue to try to get closer and closer to white folks and and getting closer and closer to capitalist empowerment. we are leaving hundreds and thousands of us behind. we will continue to do that in order to do it. one of the things that has been set up. couple of times, which i disagree with, is that voters and white people in particular voting against their interest. that is not true. they voted for their interest
because saving white supremacy is their interest. it has been proven over and over. i think we need to take heed. , understand and not expect them to do anything different. the last one is to organize. to listen to people, go knock on doors, talk to folks and organize with our community. i see that as a young person. i will consider myself young, but younger person. how are we using different tools and techniques, whether online or into churches to talk. that work is really important. is,last thing i would say for all of y'all in here who have or who have not, i would invite you to look at the vision for black lives that was released this summer. it is a plat -- a policy platform that was created through a collaborative process of about 50 different
put out sixs, that larger demands. each one has about another 10 to 15 policies, specific policy request. they go from anywhere to ending mass incarceration to reparations, to looking at housing policies and what can we do and what do we need as a black community. that is some of the work i will be strategizing about, about how to push that. we also realizing that, still have our current president and that we need to push them to do it. this may be the last opportunity we had. he needs to release all political prisoners. we can push for it. it can happen now. these are executive mandates. all he has to do is sign a paper. he can and all student debt. push for him to do it. crisis in at the debt
this country, it is significant for any young person who has gone to college in the last 25 years. being able to and that. that. definitely the dakota pipeline. and to help push for reparation. those are things that as black people, we can push the first two, he can do as executive orders and the last when he gets that as a precedent. someone in that position can make a difference. mark: we are going to hear from others of you. these come forward for a few moments. dr. ron daniels. our question and answer. . -- answer period. ron: we want to think
c-span. we appreciate the mayor for coming. he came all the way back from atlantic city to came here. he will be with us tomorrow night again. he really shared some clarity in terms of his perspective. [applause] dr. ron: there is a registration fleet -- fee that we pay. we always have senses that are free and open to the public. always. last night, when we had our session, it was free and open to the public. we said that this national town hall meeting would be free and open to the public. we said something else. a tax-deductible donation to help the work of the institution of the black will of the 21st century. we have to allow the people to do that. [applause] dr. ron: sunday morning is the last session.
mayor -- the mayor will be right here on sunday. that session is free and open to the public. click question and answer. just before we go to the quick question and answer. , you have an envelope that was put in your bag. we need you to help the organization that does the organizing. you did not have to pay a registration fee, but we asked you if you have. make a serious contribution to help with the work of the institution of the black will 21st century. it,ll not nickel and dime some people can actually put a hundred dollar bill in this envelope. there are some who can write a check to the institute of the black world. it is a tax-deductible donation. some people can write a check for 100 dollars. some people can write a check for $50, some for $25.
or you may have cash. , we reallyu can do appreciate it, and we need it. woulddid not need it, we not ask for it. again, the principle we have operated from. somebody hit me within emailed today. they said why are you charging? these things cost. freedom is not free. bring thent to conference to the people. even five dollars would be too much for some people. anybody who wanted to come, it is free and open to the public. we ask you to make whatever kind of donation you can. we are not going to stop the program and do it like we normally do. if you can make a serious contribution, $100 or whatever, the usher will move around and pick up the envelopes. we will continue with our question and answer period so
that many of your questions can be answered. there has been many people who have not had questions exposed. i see brother larry, he knows how it gets done. with $100.off give it up for the people's organization project. [applause] i like that ron: kind of progress. take theome back in questions and answers. >> i just want to say a word about next steps here in jersey. yesterday, hundreds of students marched out of colleges and universities all over the state of new jersey and all over the nation. i think the worst thing that we can do is let this situation normalize. they tried to normalize trump already.
to join those students in the streets that are marching all over this country. [applause] >> i would propose that we have a march here on saturday, december 3 two up. trump. the next thing is -- donald trump. an election.have we need a black agenda for new jersey. we need a black agenda for new jersey. only candidates coming through our pre-declared for governor. there may be more. when they come to us, we need to pull our agenda out and say what are your positions on our agenda. i propose that we have a statewide convention for a black agenda in new jersey saturday, march the fourth. bring everybody together. saturday, march 4.
this gives us time to get the word out about it. we can bring together everybody throughout the state. the issue of reparations was raise. the issue of preparations for the most part has been an issue of the black intelligentsia and the issue of blackness. we have to begin to show that there is widespread support in our communities for reparation spirit -- reparations. are calling for a national march for reparation for african people, saturday, june the 24th. us return in large numbers and show that there is widespread support in our community for reparations. finally, i him here caught up in the vortex of history. a pictureng between
, andyor baraka and his son i am sitting adjacent to ron daniels. ron daniels and i were delegates at the national black political convention in 1972. ron i would say that we need another national black assembly to bring people together to put together a national agenda for the black community. i believe there are brothers and sisters who are trying to put it together now. they have something called the freedom manifesto. maybe we can meet up with them, put it together and have a national movement. backers and sisters, i go to the point i made when i first spoke. we need to do massive voter registration. we lost ground, but we did not lose new jersey. the people in new jersey voted the right way on november the
eighth. obama got elected in 2008, we went to sleep and who was elected the next year? it can happen again. we cannot go to sleep. we need to register, and we need to come out in mass numbers. the governor -- the gubernatorial on election, for the congressional elections, and we need to start planning now our black agenda for the presidential election in 2020. that is my next step. mark: let me do this quickly and in fairness. two other people had their hands up. you still want to say something? national congress of black women. i know many of us top about what we want to do, but i think a more of us need to commit to walking the walk and doing the work i look across the country
and i see so many activists who can barely make it, but the believe in a cause. we go to church and we tithe. we need to learn to do that to help those activists out there who are working for us every day. i have been blessed. i have been able to go to palestine and stand up for the people. on to haiti and many people around the country. i keep picket signs in my car. i see people out picketing and i ask what are they picketing about. i go hit it with them because i believe in their cause. we need to start finding funds to pay activists who make it their lives. it is a full-time job for them to speak for us. i know we don't like to talk about money a lot, but we spend awful lot about of it with
people who are oppressive. anybody who is comfortable with being our oppressor is our oppressor. we need to begin to understand that and pay the people who are helping us. i am a lawyer, i never get a penny for being a lawyer. there are many other lawyers run this country who help our people , after the spend all their money with other people, they come to us. that is the same thing we do with our activists. we need to pay them. i'm not talking about making them rich, but we need to make sure we pay their living wage. as we talk about all of these things that we think about, economics. i think somebody, maybe my sister mentioned it earlier. we have to think about how we spend our money. we are supporting our own oppression. gok: george, before you next, let me mention for the people to think about. was speaking about
something with dr. larry. in 2000, we had our own inauguration. it caused a little problem for bush. we may need to go back to d.c. on january 20 and have a people's an operation. stay tuned for that. that is a conversation we will have in the coming days. we will talk about that. george, i want you to speak now. this is a question that came from the audience. believe to be the greatest economic development program for our people? eorge: actually, i am going to cover that tomorrow. believe is the greatest economic development, and saving our children. let me just give you context. page ofr on the front usa today, there was a story
below the fold about black baby boomers and their money. said,sence of the story the black baby boomers would be the first generation of african-americans to raise another generation of african-americans who will not do better than them. history of our people, we are the only generation to raise another generation that will be worse off. our ancestors and forefathers must be rolling over in their graves. what is next? we must save our children. [applause] george: we must save our children. there are a number of ways to do that. i will expand on that tomorrow. but, there is one habit that black people have, that no other people in america have. habit. bad ass
we need to begin fixing this habit tomorrow morning. report came out with a in may of last year. i hope you saw this report. it was report on television viewership by race. here was the conclusion of the report. african americans watch 72 hours of television a week. 40% more television than any other cultural group in the history of the world. that is 10 hours of television a day. o watching 10 hours of television a day, it needs there ass kicked. if you are watching 10 hours of television in a day, you have been made into a consumer class. if you are watching 10 hours of television a day, you really enjoy reality television,
therefore you were totally entertained by trump. stop it! organize,me to organize, organize. use the time to focus on your child. all things considered, the minimal we can do as black people from our children, the minimal, all things considered in these times. we have a moral and spiritual responsibility to get our children in and out of high school with a diploma, reading and comprehending at grade level without a criminal record, and without a child. notice i did not say anything about college. if you do those three things for our children, you will lay the foundation for the rest of their lives. that is the minimum we can do.
i do not know what the graduation rate is for black children is here in new york, but i know it is in cleveland. it is 49%. 59% of our children in cleveland are dropping out of high school. can you imagine a net -- a young brother in the 21st century without a high school diploma? where is that brother going? to jail. period. end of sentence. what is the next big thing? turn off the television, focus on your family, focus on your children. organize, organize, get ready for 2018 because it will be a bloodbath. [applause] mark: next question maybe want to take this one. matterl lack lives protest and advocacy -- i sit say look on -- i should say look
on a federal lead of -- level in a trumpet ministration? -- from administration? the first one i think is dealing as an organization, as a global network because it is just one organization. as a broader movement for black lives matter movement, i think people are in the process of figuring that out. what i can say and from the conversations that we have had is that people are not going down easy. of conversation i will have here but i am aware we are on the stand. it is a conversation i will not have. is that the same amount of pressure that people were putting on obama and on the current administration, i think people were ready to go harder.
there is a lot of consolidating. i have people and friends of mine who are not organizers and activists and are asking what are we going to do? a conversation about following young people in the streets. you have young people in the streets all over the country in reaction to the current administration and the thought of a trump presidency. i think that will continue. run,f the organizations i we do direct action training. we have gone a lot of calls. i am excited about the ways in which we are going to comment not just use action and protest to apply pressure, but also apply pressure in connection with organizing and in connection with different policy reforms on a local, state and federal level. i think it goes into continuing to shift the national conversation. one of the things i think that has been the most successful things that has come out of the movement for black lives has
been being able to shift the national conversation around policing and security. i think that will continue, as well as have conversation about what anti-blackness like in all communities and across the country. leastk the last thing, at what we will do is continue to model and want to in body what it looks like to be any part of a movement that loves all-black people. we can we do so that continue to show up for each other, and show up for all of us? if we are talking real wasifically as mr. baraka talking about understanding the system. systems in play, i cannot blame you for not having jobs. what does that mean in our system? i was a youth organizer for a decade before i moved into what i currently do. i understand how our young people are being pushed out of school.
sleeprstand the system i in. how do we understand and acknowledge that, not blame our people, but help organize. that is one of the things we will continue to do. [applause] to commend the young people in the black lives matter movement because they have helped to draw a lot of attention to the issue of police brutality in this country. [applause] our people, regardless of who sits in the white house, are still being shot down like dogs in the street. since the murder of michael brown, more than 2500 people have been killed by police. in 2015, 1136 people were killed by the police. 1000 have beenst killed by the police. in our prisons, people are not talking about the brutality there. 800 prisoners have been killed prisons are at
every 28 hours, a black person is killed by the police. right here in new jersey, we have high profile cases. did you see the video of the young man that had his hands up when he was shot and killed by an officer. his mother and stepfather can you stand up. give them a hand. [applause] they did not just mourn the death of their son, they got involved in the struggle. he was killed, his mother said he was unconscious when they shot him in the head four times. his grandmother and mother are here. are they still here? with a standup please? [applause] mother ofther and rishaad. in irvington, new jersey had a cell phone in his hand
when he was shot 15 times by black and latino police. 14 years old and he was shot seven times in the back. we have been remonstrated every monday for 42 consecutive mondays, at the federal building rk, calling on the attorney to launch civil rights investigations into the death of jerome, the shot, of dual -- kashad, abdul. onneed people to chime in the struggles, like these people have done for michael brown, , and the rest. they are all our cases. 100% with the
people who are fighting against the dakota access pipeline. we had issues right here in our community. people need to be taking a stand on, and fighting against. [applause] putting the word out for our activist brothers and sisters. we need 12 to 15 people out there in front of the federal building. it should not be that way. it should be more people than that. we can come together when big-name people and high-profile people come together. we have to get back out in the streets brothers and sisters. we are short on time, unfortunately. you want to say something quickly? >> i just want to affirm that, with all due respect, i agree with everything you said. i also want to affirm that, the struggle of our sisters and
brothers, those are our struggles to. we have to be very careful about any type of language that makes it appear as if one struggle is greater than the other. the issue that our native american brothers and sisters, many who took us in as slave people seeking liberation. through our own bloodlines. the water crisis that they are experiencing, that is the same crisis we experience in flint, michigan. i think it is important that we change the narrative in our fight for our freedom. we also make it very clear that we aren't united black, brown, red and we are fighting this fight together. as i listen to larry hancock about what is happening to the federal building here. i listen to larry talk about the building, it strikes me that we
have these killings and these injustices. it is systemic. the response to it has to be systemic. respectfully to the folks standing outside of that federal building, there is nobody castillofor philando or in ferguson. we can do a rollcall of lists. i'm not disrespecting any struggle, but the pain is going to keep coming, keep coming, keep coming. the response has to be far more systemic been this one thing happening. from a public policy perspective, we have to look at how police officers are not held accountable. we have to look at local public policy around policing. i think it might've been atlanta where they were. the point is that a coalition of ministers have said they want to
be able to interview the incoming police chiefs. the community needs to have that opportunity. those are the things that need to happen. not disrespecting any struggle. people get struggle we re-it is around a person. it is too tempting to say why this and not that. what we have to say is, how do we systemically stand up to predatory capitalistic oppression? predatory capitalistic oppression that makes our lives a return on investment. the lack of our lives, the profit center. that is the oppression we have to take a look at more broadly. i would disagree that there are not people standing in solidarity still around those issues and with our brothers and sisters that have suffered. there are more than one ways to occupy and to be present and in solidarity.
people are creatively finding ways to do that through social media. it should with you, not be centered on any one particular person. i also think that we have to be very careful. this election alone to do that truth that we are stronger united. we have greater risks and challenges that are provided. it is important that we lift up the importance of solidarity across our communities of color. --hink that we have a danger important is very that we affirm our solidarity across. with social media you cannot #your way to freedom. mark: i do not think there is disagreement in that. incidentsindividual that people stand with and around. but i think the doctor is right. we have to come up with a system -- system wide approach and a
formula to confront police violence in every single community. and to advocate for community control and oversight of police. that has to be across the board, as opposed to one city one way. that is what they are doing. we are divided in terms of resources because of that. everybody is trying to be in one city. it will be somebody else tomorrow, then we have to run there. we have to wrap up, i apologize. i will turn it back over to dr. daniels. it has been a pleasure being with you. there are many activities. participate. thank you for the opportunity to be here. i would ask all of the panelist and the mayor to remain. we want to take a group photograph. once again, please welcome dr. ron daniels. [applause] it's give mark thompson
a big round of applause. [applause] dr. ron: one of the realities is that we have people that are not staying at this hotel and they have to get the last shuttle acted the doubletree. if we don't do that, that will be a problem. that is a constraint we are facing. want to say that, tomorrow, for those of you that are registered, we had a series of sessions that will be taking place. it is about the criminal justice system. we have a session that george frazier will be a part of in terms of economic development. then we have a session on the black family. in all of these sessions, it is not just about expressing grievances. when you look at george fraser, you are talking about somebody who has built a serious network. agendasother economic that we will be exposed to. the issues about police , talking about
how to take control of the beliefs. also talking about innovative programs that are taking place around the country. like the law enforcement development program from seattle. many of these things are happening because of the movement and struggle in the streets that are forcing those changes. we can seek concretely what is being done. we want to to be aware of that in terms of the participation that you bring today. give all of yourselves a big round of applause for coming and being patient. [applause] we leave, we want to get a chance with the folks. we have vendors who have come. one of the most beautiful african marketplaces you can see. red, blackourself a and green flag. we want to continue to bring that flag. also get you a t-shirt. i see those red, black and green shirts. that is what we are talking about. [applause] dr. ron: i am going to ask you
all to stand. us to be together. means, let's all pulled together. the last one we want to hold it real long and strong. the other thing that i think larry was right about, we can debate all of these issues. there should be more people in the streets. we should not have to be baking people to be in the streets. what happens is, we are in the streets when it affects me. what -- when i hurt, you heard. we are all together. when one is hurting, we all hurt your it we have to rumble together. we should not be baking and pleading with people. that is where we are now, because we are going to have to become ungovernable. we will have to do with martin luther king said.
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i can ditch this. in 2020 and 2021, we play again. nebraska and oklahoma started a home and away and 2020 and 2021. those of you who are not from nebraska and oklahoma, you should learn why football centers. been here in the summer, i was quite nervous that the goofy photo you have of me shouting across cap this. we had lots of moments where the college i used to lead almost went bankrupt between 2009 when i got there in 2014. i do note -- i do not know what i him screaming about. i learned to ski in steamboat. and980, i went to ski here i cannot imagine how hideous that footage must be. [laughter] mentioned: jennifer the work ethic. that is not what i normally want to talk about that.
my kids are here. it does not look like they have showed. i want to tell a story because we will talk about a modest -- a lot of pessimistic step. .- stuff when i decided to run for senate we were worried about where to raise our kids. i live in a small town in our outside of omaha. it is a town i grew up in. when i was a kid, everybody in d out in thebuffe summer to walk beings. how many people know what that is? how many people know what d castling corn is? i will not explain, i am not a geneticist nor biologically equipped to explain how colonization is advanced. on twitter trying to explain what deta