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rights like the right to vote in a trump administration. this is just over two hours. >> praise the lord. know as an that we people and i think the mic can just a out. we did write that. -- leave it right there. we are think for everybody's patience as we were that our sound issues. we will get right to the program because we are already behind schedule. i am mark thompson. a project but i am the host of make it plain on serious xm. we are broadcasting live right now i'm serious xm progress. this is being heard.
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the 1972 plaque political convention in gary, indiana. candidate for president himself in 1990 two. he managed the campaign of jesse jackson in 1984 and 1988. he was a distant was professor in your college in the city of new york. he is the president and founder of the institute of the black world. please give a rat of applause to dr. ron bender. >> we have certain viruses running through the system so it must be had by the typography. it is ok. we will prevail.
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introduce thekly panel. to my left, she owes us to be on america'is black leading political economist. dr. julianne. give it up for her. also following in the footsteps. dr. williams. i skipped over the amazing one who has the largest network of black professionals in the world. there are over 60,000 black professionals around the world. this is joe frazier.
and of course, he has been here for a long time. people's organization for progress, chairman larry hamm. a brilliant sister who is emerging and is a bit later -- faith leader. she is now the associate dean of the andrew rankin memorial chapel. hundred in milton. and also for the center for media and justice. please welcome jerry. [applause] watchedother who have
grow over the years. he was always on the case. lenny. reverend [applause] and people who have organized the black vote. melanie beloved friend campbell. please welcome her. [applause] back to the stage. my dear beloved friends. he helped raise me. he is my dad. he is a great guy. would you please welcome mark thompson? [applause] mark: thank you dr. daniels.
your greatte all of work. we will get right into our conversation. we will begin with the first question and as dr. daniels said, rather than just ask general questions, what is your reaction to the election? we want to have a more guided discussion. any panel is welcome to answer each question. have to write. -- left to right. what role did voter suppression playing these election results? ulianne: race played a big role. the white people did it for mr. khan. -- mr. trump.
if we look at it, the only african-american women were the stronger supporters of hillary rodham clinton at 93%. 13% of african-american men went for mr. trump. 30% of latinos and asians went for mr. trump. we see that race played a role. white people came together. class and culture. hillary clinton counted on college educated white women as her face. they went 51% clinton but 45% trump. the other 6% to whomever. basically, while non-educated went for trump as expected, she expected a big slide in her base.
she did not get it, she got a 6% bump. not the 20% bump to need it. the $50 million she has left belongs to you. it belongs to the national coalition of black participation. but that is absolutely played a role. we have never seen why people act with this reaction is to the presidency of barack obama. i went to north carolina. i want to high point, north carolina. . did three churches iran of my brother who said he did not do early voting. he said in high point, north carolina, there were eight voting places. in 2016, there was one. where was the one? it was at the courthouse.
he said that i have warrants. he said i wasn't going to the courthouse, i have warrants. hasolunteered that he unpaid parking tickets. i said i hope that he paid child support two. in any case, the bottom line was you had 800 fewer voting places nationally in general. for early voting, you had about 2000 fewer voting places. north carolina had serious voter suppression. in durham, north carolina, the heavily black area, the polling places were not working for the first two hours. people had to go to court to get them extended and they were extended for an hour. theine in morning, you weren't necessarily coming back in the afternoon. ,n the key states that we now no.
north carolina, philadelphia, michigan, people literally were taken off of the roles. we did have 45% of registered voters voting. but we'll also had people who were registered who voted who were taken up of the roles but did not take the time to do provisional ballots. when mr. trump said this was right, it was. they redid the whole time. i'm going to skip to melanie because she has to leave. did race and voter suppression play? major part in a this system.
we want to illustrate the race, trump gender. oneother thing, the other that i want to take a close look at is trump's age. if you look at who voted. melanie: black people voted for hillary clinton. white -- 18-29 gave trump 40% of their votes. 30-44, 57% of their votes went to trump. 45-64,nt to trial. number, ik at that spent a lot of time in florida, a lot of time in florida. kkk country.om,
it is a stone's throw away from scott's more and oak hill and all these other places. when my mother passed away in june, i saw it. in the last couple weeks i was in florida, in all my years, i never pause about getting into a car and running up to the drugstore. walgreens or anyway. my brother stopped me and said you need to do that tonight. i said i was running to the store. he said he might want to take my 38. i didn't. but when i got there, i wish i had. youngnever seen that many
, not granddaddy's, not great granddaddy's but the great-great-grandson's. in thiss has unleashed great united states of america is a time i have never lived through. we are at a place where we had to figure out that the numbers are the numbers. the reality is that white women decided that race mattered more than their own gender. at the end of the day, who would have benefited more than white women? there is a lot of blame to go around. i told him people that you will find out later. this is a fight is going to go for the next 20 or 30 years. those of us who have been around a while the to grab a hold of our young people.
i have never seen a kind of racism overtly. people in my community, my hometown were worried about whether or not they would -- what would happen to them it hillary clinton one. what was going to be the backlash? two days before the election, this pastor who had a white woman get behind her in her car who tried to run her of the road. i don't know what would have happened to her. before that month she needs a ride from here. all you see is trump. racism that isrt going on in middle schools and high schools and everywhere, we need to unify. it is about resistance.
that is all to say. larry is going to go next. that: i just wanted to say i agree with the previous statements. i would say that race was a key factor and that voter suppression was the modus operandi. the depth of the election in 2016. this election was stolen and it was stolen through voter suppression. as many as 6 million black people were kept from going to the polls. this didn't start on election day. this started years ago. their plan was to get control of the supreme court. cut the voting rights act. discontinue preclearance. theyay after the decision, introduced voter id bills in state legislature across the country. they not only used voter id to
suppress the vote, they use polling place reduction, they use roller urging. it wasn't just in the south in the battleground states. it was all over the nation. it was a nationwide theft. what we need to do, we need to look to the future. although we had one of the highest voting turnouts of any demographic, we need to start a national voter registration drive that could last for the and doubled the number of black voters in the united states. i appreciate everybody's conciseness. i want to remind everybody that we want to keep our remarks to two minutes. i want to get back on sequential order so we can get to everybody fairly.
george frazer, ladies and gentlemen. george: the answer to your question is yes and yes. it is also -- it has always been. always been between black folks and white folks. it has always been that and it will always be that. for the next 100 years. black folks and white folks. race will always play a part in every major decision that has anything to do with the upper nobility of black people. race will always play a part. we are grown as people. we know this. now use this, this means that we have a clean slate with the democratic party. with the republican party. competition is the lifeblood of
our american heritage. isn't it interesting that we can now for the republican party to come eat with the democratic party for our votes going forward if in fact the democratic party and on-demand deliver on the process he made to black people. -- trumppublican party said things and made promises to that if barack hussein obama had said those things while he was on it for president, he would have never made it to the presidency. he made promises to us. will he to fill those promises? will the republican party allow him to the villas promises? theust hold his feet to ine and our black pundits
holding trump's feet to the fire in regard to what he promised us for our votes, we're nothing to lose, he said that. we will see. now the republican party hopefully will deliver. andill be a wonderful party we will have trouble deciding if we want to vote democrat or republican. the insane decision that hispanics have to. no one knows how they have to vote. katy --ties have to cater to them and put a plank in their platform. the other opportunity we have is our own party. how about coalescing around our own political strength? that door could be opened again in some way. that is my story and i'm sticking to it. mark: george frazer everybody.
dr. ife williams. dr. ife williams: thank you everybody. i want to complement my sisters for knowing what they wanted and going after it. we are indeed be targets because for the person we thought would be doing the most for us. although we were not promised a i read her up as myself and i had a similar experience. i know in my own heart that i did when but because my opponent was a white republican male, he was given the credit for it. when the boat came in, i've thought about my own race. i don't for one moment believe was thet man whose name
election. the election was stolen because , it was believed that hillary clinton was the candidate of black people and people of color. therefore she had to be defeated. it was also understood that the other person was the candidate of white people. played a huge part. it was the main thing. it was done through voter suppression. my white sisters and i've asked them what i have supposed to say because i have spent so much of my life working for my rights as a black person but also my right as i woman. we are not in the constitution so i have traveled all over the world working for women's writes. wet they said to me was betrayed you. that we knew already.
i have it in writing for some -- from so many white women leaders to say we betrayed you. let me say what else we said. every position that comes open, ,hether it is corporations those positions should go to black women. black women are smart, they have proven they can sit together, the matter what people have said cooperate.e can't we approved we can cooperate. now it doesn't mean that we are against you. as black women, we work not only for ourselves but our entire family. we will be demanded that kind of respect. expandan that, we to ourselves and people with similar issues to others.
i'm not talking about white people. i don't work for white people, i don't have to answer to them. they don't do anything for me. i don't even have a job. there are is that people were discriminated against. we need to find them. we need to see where we can conversion were together. despite the fact that it was somebody else, we are stronger when we are together. give her another round of applause. again on the question of what role race and voter suppression was. this is reverend middleton. : voterd middleton suppression is an issue that
impacted the election. several of our students travel to north carolina. some of the things that they witnessed in d.c. alone, some in line foro stand hours in order to vote. in ohio, there was a student who moved a couple of times. she was removed from the ballot. she was one of the disciplined and patient wants the weighted to get a provisional ballot. i also want to talk about the exploitation of race or other selection. in addition to the limitation of our choices, he told that we only had two anointed chosen ones. also the explanation of our narrative, how painful it is for charleston,hter of one of my relatives was the person killed.
it tracks across this country. they are having their narratives exploited. i wonder now what happened to those mothers. narrativened to the of those family members who have been exploited. an issue in is terms of race. . also, what happens now when we talk about flint michigan and the water crisis? what happens when we are talking about standing rock. where do we go now, postelection? i think the candidates who did a really good job of being convenient and addressing some of these issues, now that we have been exploited now that the election is over, what have is to those narratives? i want to say as a person
engaged in the movement of black lives and black lives matter important to understand that these young people helped to bring forth at this topic of issues -- topic of race. important to if it wasn't for black lives matter, i would wonder if we would have any discussion at all in this candidacy. also, the impact of the election. >> give her another round of applause. mark: speaking of young people from oakland and the center of media justice. collective, give her a round of applause. >> i would discover the two things, i am taking notes on my
phone. it is a little road. it is to be typing, that is what that is. would to say thank you for inviting me here today. it is really exciting to be here on this panel amongst all of the. thinking about race and the role it has played in the election, we can spend a lot of time wondering who voted for them. that, the rhetoric of donald trump being a candidate because of the way in which he vilified and went after president obama. that is the only reason he was -- that is how he got where he has. it started with race and it will continue to be around race. he continued to use language without his campaign. you have people who are screaming build a wall that is really explicitly around
mexicans and mexican immigrants. about black communities. he continues to talk about black communities in the inner cities like they are synonymous. aftertinued and went white people by using racialized language. we live in a country where the media was letting it go. we allowed that kind of language to continue on and on. that is what is galvanizing people throughout the country. i will say that they are scared but they are a little shaken up and wheree they are the country is. i think it has been about race. it is around the backlash of obama's election. it has a lot to do with the backlash of the current iteration of black liberation struggles. people who have been
continuously on the streets. black people who have had continued to fight for our rights and continued to look at policing communities. the worken't doing that we were doing and to be honest, if we weren't making strides and winning anyway that we work, whether that was changing the conversation or bringing people together, he would not have one. i don't think that is a good thing but i am saying that it is about race and it always has been. it is about the reaction to the word that black people have done. mark: give her another round of applause. last but not least, before we move on to our next question. this is my brother here. the president of the hip-hop caucus. my comrade in arms. please go ahead and give them a round of applause if you would.
howard as well. >> he said that i wanted him. in that spirit, let me say to the mayor of this great city, thank you. that is important because that is what we want to build on the local level. we want to elect more black mayors like yourselves. that is one of our models that we should look at. thank you for what you have done for our generation. think that our generation understands your genius.
it gives us a blueprint. that is important regarding race. were let me say that there some positives about race in this election. he will be in the u.s. senate from the state of california. that is amazing. our first latina woman senator from nevada and human organ, some hallmarks. lgbtq governory in oregon. there were some power things -- powerful things that happened in this election. and in that was said was right in line toward race. elections being stolen, voting voter id thosed,
being put in place. all those things that we have heard. i kind of want to state this. ,f this was an election mark this was a repeat election. we have done this. for those who have been around long enough, i was not born around this time but for those who have been around, this is what it looks like every day when it comes to race. when we and richard nixon in 68, hubert humphrey, what he did, how they used race then, after dr. king was assassinated, how the peace movement was upset because humphrey was not radical enough. looking at him, they said that he was too much mainstream, coming in as vice president. nation was saying that he was the law and order candidate at the time and 68. was playing the
role and the movement came forth and said the same, this is the lesser of two evils. people did not vote. that in one. well, they can begin supporting -- they soon began to wage war. i will come back to this. while obama is still in office. i digress. humphrey was there, in that , theys, what he lost came. that is important because we dealt with race then. this was the rest of the black caucus. dylan with things of race. onceould ask ourselves they came, it was a bernie moment. they put forward george
mcgovern. george mcgovern got lambasted. nixon got almost 5000 votes. he won everything in 72. he was a car. -- a crook. are we in the same place that we were then? how can we be having this same argument in 72? be having less power? blackn we have more caucuses, more like governors, more black mayors and still not have power in this race? i think our conversation should why do we have impotence as a
people in the 21st century? peopleot holding our about race accountable. doing what they need to do. when they get our vote and people see them boating, they get in office, they don't do anything they need to do. they turned the big money and other companies and tobacco companies and all of those things. they take money for conferences, when we see that, when young people see that, they don't want to be a part of that game. i would draw a line in the sand. how weid in 72 and ask can truly build black political power in the 21st century? mark: on the issue of race, donald trump was not elected by
the people. inwe had direct democracy the united states, hillary clinton one by 2 million votes. she would be the president. the electoral college is a vestige of the system of enslavement of black people in this country. it was put together to give the slaveholding colonies in the south more power. it should be a balance -- a balance, the electoral college. but have direct democracy, direct election in the united states. usedery president has race. there is a brilliant photos written in the early 90's called nixon's piano. how everybout president has dug whispered or use the bullhorn suddenly.
bill clinton, when he went to a rainbow push conference, this soldier signal to what people that he was not close to reverend jackson. he used that to disrespect as a soldier. we can look at other candidates. my sister and reagan chapel was listing for black lives. we had never heard the word's preparation come out of a president. they confronted bernie and hillary as a reparations made a difference. while we can go back and look at 1972, they said, but we have to look at is how we, but people have been used as a pun on the chessboard from the beginning of time to deal with these electoral issues and how we have failed quite frankly to take some of their power.
indeed -- ralph nader has talked about a 50 state strategy. that is where we need to be. hillary clinton did not go to wisconsin. that was lost by less than 1%. .ilwaukee a big group of black voters. she got about 70,000 fewer than president obama day. and she just shown herself there one time, she might have done better. to look at all of these battleground states. 2018, there are going to be more democratic senatorial seat up. we have to be clear about what our role is. in terms of the whole third, fourth, fifth party, we want to have voting where you can do preferential voting.
first choice, second choice, third choice. if you need to express yourself , i would in that way never get over that. in any case, if you had to do that ranking, you could do that. why are wething is not starting now in terms of looking at who is there? is, -- i'veing never met you what you are good. some of the other young brothers. we need to run them in posses. we need to run them in tens and
20's. we can't afford to get into this. i have never met you before. forgive me, i'm not making fun of you. do and, we have work to i hope that -- i know you're running the show. i own all. i am old and i am cold. i enjoy every moment of it. >> i think is important for us. you are right. what i am saying, to be clear, before we look at any party, let us figure out our electoral
revolution for ourselves. what we need to do, this work. i was told long i was told long ago, he who funds you is he who controls you. before we go out asking people for money, we need to figure out ways that we ourselves can make sure we understand how important the electoral activism is, go out and get resources to do that kind of work, and then go out and do it. because if we can't -- that is why we gravitate towards battleground states. we are chess pieces. because we are not playing the players. we are on the board. when we do have a kamala harris or barack obama, we should be in
a position to have a different conversation about political activism in the 21st century. [applause] >> the challenge is this -- voting is not the most you can do. voting is literally the least you can do. we do this every two years, this get out the vote. no. the take away from the obama administration was this. you don't get fed if you don't bring your plate to the table. we did not ask president obama for much, so we did not get much. if hillary had gotten in, there is a long list of stuff we were supposed to ask her for. trump is in there. he claims he cares about us, ha ha. what did you call him? pineapple head? >> orange man. >> though, i call him high-level head. pineappleall him
head. anyway, i don't think he is going to keep his promises. we need to hold him to those. but it's not that the top, it is at the bottom half. we need to be in those local areas. holding a local brother accountable. holding anyone who has gotten our vote accountable, so that we are able to build. >> you were shaking your head. did you want to chime in? feel free. >> yes. i'm trying to figure out the best way to say what i want to say. the conversation is back and forth, and i think the electoral politics are really important, but it is important to an end. if we, collectively as black people, either in our communities, in larger cities or even out of states, not to mention a national strategy. but if we don't understand what
that end is, it does not make sense. we can continue to vote people in and think we are going to have different results, and we can look back to when we had black governors and black mayors all over the place and the conditions for black people did not change. in a lot of those cities, they got worse. there are a lot of external reasons for why that happened, but if we understand that and we understand the external pressures on those who are elected, we have to do different. we cannot continue to vote people in and expect them to represent us and give us the same thing. if we did not learn that from obama, then we did not learn anything else. to me, i think that having an electoral strategy makes sense, but it is only one strategy. it only works in you have a community process that has community goals that is then pushing a community strategy, that election and the person who gets elected is responsible for. but until we start that process and continue to elect people, and register people to vote, it
is going to continue to give us the exact same result over and over again. [applause] >> yes. just want to reset for those who are listening. the 2016 presidential election, the implications for black americans and the pan african world. george, you wanted to chime in, please? >> yeah, let me say this and still be loved. [laughter] >> yes, i am black, in case you are not entirely sure. that is the beauty of our culture and race. we come in all shapes and sizes and skin tones. lots of options. no need to stray. but that is another story. we are the only culture to put political empowerment before economic empowerment. last year, we elected nine
black public officials, but we are still at the bottom of the educational and economic heap. that means you cannot do it by politics alone. how dare we put that kind of pressure on our political leadership? again, we are not fools. we were not born last night. we understand we are all impacted by public policy and the politics of inclusion. so yes, we must continue to use our vote, the power of our vote to empower those who empower us. much of the action is on the down ballot. a president can make a difference. we know that, but we cannot get where we are going by politics alone. that is a small percentage of it. the bigger percentage of it, and
it has been suggested and touched on in this panel appeared, the bigger piece of the equation is what we do for self. that is really what is going to come down to at the end of the day. because we are the icing -- not we, but we are the cake, and whoever is in the political position is the icing on the cake. but we are the cake. wherever we are going, it is because we are going to take ourselves there. let me say this a different way. white folks will not be saving black people, i am sorry. [applause] >> it has been 400 years, and we ain't saved. [applause] >> we will be saving black people. so we need to bless and release this. move on. do what we know has to be done
by us, and then let the chips fall where they may. >> all right. [applause] >> all right, ladies and gentlemen, that was george fraser. dr. daniels, i think, wanted to say something, and then we are going to shift gears. dr. daniels, please. >> we're getting ready to hear from our mayor, for one thing. time is tight. but i wanted to say a couple of things about this election that have not been said. first and foremost, the biggest political party in america today is not democrats and isand republicans, it nonvoters. we have the lowest voter participation of any western democracy. 100 million people did not vote in this most recent election. 100 million.
in a low participation environment, hear me now, in a low participation environment, if you are talking about strategy, those who register and vote in high numbers win. i'm saying that because, no matter what -- i know there is suppression, but when they suppress, we have to break to the barriers. polls, they are not turning us around. we need to get to the polls. we have had a lot of discussion about this and that. "they are flawed." they were both flawed candidates. but when you talk about being flawed, you have to do a scorecard. what would fraud candidate one do on the supreme court versus fraud candidate two. that's the labour relations
board, the environment protection agency, the consumer protection agency. these things -- i don't know much about this, but the difference between the democrats and republicans is not fundamental, it is not revolutionary, but it is not inconsequential. your vote matters. the supreme court will be in one election cycle. and there is a lot we need to do. i agree with my sister from the movement for black lives. we need to build the political process. that's what we were talking about. we've abandoned it. we need to get back to it. but in the interim, we have tactical decisions we need to make. the supreme court is lost for almost 20 years. it is like a plessy versus ferguson decision that has been made. while we've been sitting around, some of us -- well, i don't like -- i did not ask you to like her. no permanent friends, no permanent enemies, but a permanent black interest, that
is what we have to deal with. we are getting ready to have a civic lesson like we have not had for a lot of people who do not understand how this works. it matters, it really does matter in terms of the affordable care act, all of these things, and the lives of people really matter. it is not a question of, is it like simplicity versus complexity? it is simplistic to say, well, lesser evils. that's true on one level, but no. it is complex. we have be able to deal with the complexities, because we are mature people. mature people make complex decisions. we have to begin to do that. i did not want to say that too much. i did not want to go off, but i am passionate about this. i want to return, because we do want to hear from our mayor. he is our host, and he has a lot to say about things that we should not be -- that we should be passionate about, so i turn it back over to him. >> give dr. daniels a round of
applause. [applause] >> i just want to say that some of us were talking on the air earlier. i hope history ultimately is forgiving of us, because a lot of us follow personalities and folks on tv. he is not on tv every day, but we should have followed more and listen more to the guidance and wisdom of dr. ron daniels. i hope history will not judge us too harshly for not doing that. dr. ron walters was our preeminent scientist. dr. daniels has been not only only our scientist, but our organizer, as well. i can think back on countless occasions when he gave good counsel. but what do we do? egos get in the way, this is my organization, this is my thing, all that stuff. i don't want to be the leader of the movement, all that kind of crap in a barrel stuff. i just want to mention that i had a white listener, a woman, and she said black people don't have crab in a barrel.
i did not know why folks knew what crab in a barrel was. she said white people have it in terms of hillary clinton. we saw evidence of that. we're going to shift around, because the next question was about policy, but because we lost time earlier, the radio broadcast will go off at the top of the hour. but i want our national audience to hear my brother first, and then we will get back to the panel. i want the people around the world to hear our brother. let me just say this about this brother. we've known each other for well over 30 years. the thing is, we met in 1989 when i was at udc. i went over to support the howard student movement. in 1990 when we had udc protest, the howard students came over. in between, all of you black lives matter millennials and whatnot, i know some of us look old. but we did this back then.
students used to go to virginia beach every year. some of you remember that. and party. well, in 1989, the police beat us. we've been dealing with this for a long time. we organized in 1990 the student boycott against virginia. nobody went to virginia beach again after that. this is nothing new. please welcome, and we honor his father -- i have to say this, the poem that his father wrote about george bush. i was honored to have your dad read that on the air. i will never forget. it was one of my greatest moments to spend that time with him. we lift up his spirit and his son who is continuing in his father's name. the mayor of newark, new jersey, ras baraka. [applause]
mayor baraka: it is an absolute pleasure to be here this evening. i know the sister said i am good. thank you, i am good, this is my city. because i am the mayor, everybody in here is good. you do not have to worry about nobody beating you on the way out, that is for sure. i try to take as many notes as possible, but i think there is a lot of confusion. and a lot of things that we think have been said that young people pick up. isot of it is historical. a lot of it is ahistorical.
it gives us a false start in terms of how we should be and how we should be organizing. we are a lot further ahead than we actually are. most of it is because we spent a lot of time attacking each other rather than our enemies. our enemies get away, and we spend most of our energy beating on one another. i do want to say, that there were times when we would say, elected black officials do not matter. i think that is absolutely ahistorical. before reconstruction was probably the most important part for black people during slavery. that is how you got the 13th and 14th and 15th amendment. those things were outright attacked and betrayed by the democratic and republican party, who made a deal as larry alluded to with the electoral college. the hayes-tilden compromise.
it allowed troops from the south to outright attack black people. we went through over 100 years of lynching. men, women, and children were lynched. it was called the solid south. it was naked aggression on african-american families when that period happened. the other period is probably the 1960's, when we began to elect black mayors of major cities across america. it benefited, for the most part, the black middle class. there was a huge black middle class that began to grow, because these elected officials began to steer dollars, projects, and money towards black folks with businesses who had these businesses and were making money. unfortunately, the folks who begin to enrich themselves during this. of time did not -- during this period of time did not have a social and political context and did not use wealth to fund a movement to do other things to
get us further along. when those things happened, the conditions of our community remained. they turned into what we call a 5% nation. the 85% against the leaders. some of those cities still have white mayors today because of the black backlash. we have to be clear about the things we are saying. even if you take david dinkins in new york as an example, people were not completely satisfied with him. it is funny we talk about the system, and how flawed the system is, but we focus on individuals more than the system itself. when he could not defeat the system by himself in a way we thought he should defeat it, people turned against him and told him to leave. so he left, and as a result you got giuliani and bloomberg. 20 years of repression in that community, because we were not sophisticated enough to argue with the david dinkins but support him at the same time. [applause]
mayor baraka: because we don't -- because we are not that sophisticated, this is where we are today. i agree with the reverend, we need to build our agenda. that is probably the foremost thing we need to do. we did that, but we need to do it again and stick to it and begin to understand we have to argue with each other. that is part of it. we do have conflicts, but that should not be deal breakers. because we argue does not mean we should walk away. the list, things on we don't agree with the first three, it does not mean we throw the whole thing in the garbage. we unite behind the things we do agree upon. because we have not been as sophisticated to do that is congress, these people together, , they know they got cheated, but they will unite around the unity of this country. and your disenfranchisement. we have not been sophisticated enough to unite behind the things that bring us together.
we should have a compact to stay together always. that is fundamentally important. for me, i think there are a lot of issues with race. i think part of it was that race played a huge part of it. so did gender, in my mind, and so did class. all of these things played a huge part into why hillary clinton is not the president. what bothers me is that -- after the fact -- people are still talking about the candidates. i'm glad this panel did not go that way. we never talk about the system. we talk about the candidates, and not the system. we talk about the electoral college that has disenfranchised us. nobody is saying, look, get rid of this, so i am glad it was said straight out that it needs to go away. that is exactly what needs to happen. none of these people on the tv
have been talking about the voter rights act. nobody has been talking about the disenfranchisement -- 300,000 people in wisconsin who did not vote because of voter id's. you take wisconsin, pennsylvania and north carolina -- hillary lost by less than 300,000 votes in those states combined. nobody is talking about how this was a plan to disenfranchise black people, brown people, working people around the country. another piece is, we have to have a united front against fascism. that is clear. [applause] mayor baraka: that is clear. we have to understand who our enemy is. hitler was elected. he was elected. what is troubling to me -- i had a conversation with another elected official who doesn't look like me, who said he doesn't think it is fair we characterize all of the people who voted for donald trump as racist.
i said, if they are not racist, they are racist sympathizers. [applause] mayor baraka: it would be intriguing to figure out, if we characterize all of the germans who voted for hitler if they were fascist or fascist sympathizers. it does not matter who they were. it matters what the outcome was. they were willing to ignore his racism and misogyny and barbarism for the sake of their own interests. they did that. it means they are comfortable with outright and physical attacks on our community as long as it serves white supremecy. [applause] mayor baraka: that is really what the problem is. what we have to understand is even when we get together as black folks in this country and
we have an agenda -- we have to unite with other people to win. the object is to win. we do not just want to struggle for struggle's sake. there are thousands in our community that are jailed have -- jailed, have been beat, dad. dead. we are not activists and revolutionaries because it is fun. my mother and father did not participate in the movement for medals or to be praised. it because it wasn't necessary. my mother missed a lot of birthdays, a lot of different things. we did not have a soccer mom because she was fighting for the people. at the end of the day, we romanticize that stuff too much. ultimately, our job is to unite with others who have common interests.
there are brown people who have common interests, poor folks who have common interests, that don't understand that, so they voted against their own interests because trump right now is consolidating the wealth in america. wall street has never had a free pass in the united states government this easy than the 1920's. the dodd frank regulations are being overturned as we speak right now. he's going to appoint people to the fed, to all of these financial institutions that will make it difficult for us to do anything. the last thing i want to say is that we have to recognize our privilege. some of us in here are privileged. when i say that, obama was black and was the president, but he had more privileged than most americans. we have to recognize our privilege. some of us are saying we can afford to lose this election, you might can afford to lose the election, but there are thousands of people who can't
afford to lose. they are already moving away from public housing in a democratic administration. when you start taking money from public housing, it is terrible for people who live in public housing. you don't live there. when they start taking money from folks who don't have health care and they pull health care away from people, stop funding federal health care centers, stop funding the reduction of pharmaceutical costs, all of these things people benefit from in the community you don't have to deal with because you are privileged. there are a whole class of people in our community that these things are going to hurt immediately. when they start affecting planned parenthood, when they start putting justices in there who wipe out voting rights and make it difficult for women to get access to health care, make it difficult for women to have representation, these things are real life issues for americans, for black people and brown people in these cities who do not have certain privileges we
have to come to these meetings all the time and do the things we do. we have to understand our privilege and make an analysis based on the fact that we do have privilege. there are folks in my neighborhood who say, you can not have a supermarket in your neighborhood because it will bring gentrification, you can get in your car and drive to another city and go to a supermarket and my grandmother has to shop at the corner store. your analysis has to be based -- you have to think about your own privilege. lastly, how many pta meetings have the people in here been to? how many churches have we visited? how many senior citizen events and places have we gone to where our people are? we have to go to where the people at. we cannot have an elitist mentality that lets us believe we are so revolutionary we are pacifists.
we are so revolutionary, we don't want to get involved in anything because everything is counterrevolutionary, and we have this hard cultural line that does not even allow us to talk to organize the people we are talking about in our community. [applause] mayor baraka: we're talking about organizing the people in our community, but we won't go to the churches where they are because the churches are counterrevolutionary. you have to go to the schools where your kids are at. you go to the outside and complain about the people who get elected, because the people in the community will not even listen to you. that, my friends, is the ultimate problem, because he -- we organize in the community and not with the community. and that's a problem. [applause] mayor baraka: right? and so we walk around, we have this really revolutionary line,
and we are smarter and tougher, but we are not clear and our people are not clear because we have not politicized them. we may have to check the books we are reading, as well. i saw this thing coming a long way. i was surprised, as most people were, but i saw the dysfunction in the left and the moderate and progressive elements of our community, in the party itself. the dysfunction, the disorganization, the attacking, the individual worshiping, all of the things going on. people were telling me, this person is flawed. who ran for nobody president ever that has not been flawed. i don't know nobody who ran for president that has been malcolm x.. we have not ran revolutionary leaders. this is american democracy we are talking about. you are running individuals for office, not for your individual organization.
we have to understand that politically and begin to unite around the things that we have in common. if we don't do that, we will lose in the midterms, and in 2020 we will lose again. so we have to put our pride away and began to organize, and then organize ourselves. thing i have is that people come to our community at the last hour and ask us to support them. at the last hour. they ask you to do something for them at the last hour, and when you don't do it, they say something is wrong with you and beat up on you for not having a progressive line. you just showed up. i don't even know you. [applause] : you came here yesterday. how do you expect my people to you? gung ho about the idea is, if you want to organize black folks, you have to come into our community today.
all these liberal organizations, you can't come into our community without black leadership in those organizations. you have to have particularly black women leadership in these unions, in these other organizations that are in our community because, as was said, black women did what they were supposed to do in this election and tried to save us all. despite everything that was said and all of the stuff that was going on, they tried to save everybody. 90% strong. they tried to come and save, as usual, save us all from ourselves. save white women, black women, black men, everybody from themselves. they tried, but were not successful. in closing, when i was in city hall, a kid came up to me, a student, and said, mayor, can the election.ter h
make hillaryyou clinton the president? i said, i tried that yesterday. i was honest. it did not work. because in this country, the popular vote does not mean you become the president. and that is how we have to start explaining it. we do not have a democracy in america. [applause] mayor baraka: we do not have one person, one vote in america. republicans are clear, they call it a republic. it is not a democracy. we have to continue the fight for a democracy. all of us have to fight together in our individual organizations. if you are not in an organization, you have a problem. you have to be organized.
once you get into an organization, you have to unite your organizations together around a common interest and you fight with other people who may not think exactly like you to begin to push the country further to become more progressive, more democratic, more inclusive for more of us so we can get power for people, not just power for individuals. thank you. [applause] mark: mayor ras baraka of newark, new jersey. [applause] mark: that is an example of the black elected leadership we were talking about. give him a round of applause, ladies and gentlemen. [applause] mark: now, are we circulating index cards for questions and answers?
some of you should be getting index cards so we can take questions from some of you. i think that between dr. daniels and mayor baraka, the other category that i wanted to bring up worthy policy implications. kind ofmayor baraka laid that out. this is going to affect everyone, including those white folks who voted against their own interests. and everybody should listen to dr. king's speech at the montgomery state capital. it blows white folks' minds. he's talking about it then. he says, you were taught to vote against your own interests for racism. a minister said that black
people were given the rival and -- bible and white folks were given jim crow. even though some of these issues arise, that mayor baraka laid out, black people start to hate -- white people are instigated to hate us for it, and then they are broke and poor and don't have social security no more, but it's our fault. dr. king talked about that. i would encourage everybody to hear what he had to say. we want to get questions. i want to say first of all, i was glad we could get the mayor on. appalud our radio audience. they are about to leave. thank you to the sirius xm listenership. [applause] mark: with that, as we get questions in, i want to briefly go around and have our panelists share what is next. what are the next steps that we need to be about?
i think lennox alluded to some of them. this is real. what julianna said, even for democrats in the establishment, they pretty much conceded that 2018 is going to be rough on the senate. we may be set back even more. so what is it that we can do, how will we organize, and what will we do? anybody want to take that on? >> actually, i mean, i think one of the most important things after up, particularly the amazing, prophetic speech that the mayor of this great city -- give it up one more time s baraka.araka -- ra [applause] rev. yearwood: i know in 2017, there will be two governor races
in this country, one in virginia and one right here in new jersey. i could not think of anybody who would be greater to move up the ros baraka becoming governor of this state, as a next step. we can push him him and prod on him and work on him, and we can begin to have those. one of the things that is important is that we cannot confuse voting with policy and legislation. that is very important. the endgame is policy and legislation. we have to realize that a billionaire is leaving his company to not take a salary, i think it will be one dollar, maybe not even live in the white house, to really be able to
create policy as was said. that is the end game. what i would tell all of my folks who are listening and watching, demonstrating is important. and i get the power of demonstrating, but demonstration without legislation leads to frustration. we have to understand the end game. begin to look at how we can shape policy. that is our most immediate next step. the issues around the epa. i have to say this, around the gutting of that, the people of flint, today is right around four years from superstorm stanley -- superstorm sandy hitting new jersey. i am from louisiana, we went through katrina, what is going withw in flint, and standing rock, this is real and people will die because of these policy decisions.
so we have to fight in a very vigilant fashion to ensure these things don't happen. we are going to have a lot of things that will be said, but i want to say that we still have a president who is still in office. donald trump does not take office until january 20, and we have the powerful women's on march january 21 to greet him. what is important now, and i've got to say this because i know they are watching, and what ros mentioned about us coming together, we have to come together as a black and brown and red people, all people. we must come together. right now, who is watching, maybe some of them have been tweeting, standing rock is the next step. right now in north dakota, there is an amazing, peaceful resistance going on. if black people come together
100% to support and stand with standing rock, i could not think of a better next step than that. [applause] rev. yearwood: we must demand that this president stand with standing rock. we must demand that this president stand with standing rock, cancel that pipeline, first and foremost, and free those people and free the land. we must be with them as an immediate next step. mark: yes? ms. malveaux: one of the things that we need to look at is local legislation. the fight for $15 has got national attention, but it started with local areas talking about a living wage. washington state, san francisco, severalral -- d.c., other cities have talked about a higher minimum wage than the federal minimum wage. we need to look at local legislation.
stuff is not going to come from the top down now, it has to come from the bottom up. talk about the senate, and the senate is important, i think we also have to talk about what cities can do. some cities have looked at eldercare issues, some cities have looked at environmental and climate change issues. mr. trump does not believe that there is climate change despite seeingo antarctica and pieces of it falling apart. some cities have begun to talk about taxing emissions and things like that. i would urge people to look at what you can do at the city level. we have lots of city councils that are very progressive. we can look at, especially our urban areas still, despite gentrification, tend to be majority-minority. we can look at local legislation we can deal with. we can look at issues, especially, i believe mr. trump
will probably do some things to remove discrimination laws, and we want to solidify them at the local level. state legislatures are also important. i think what we're seeing and what we have been seeing since about the mid-1990's is that state legislatures have paved the way for federal legislation, but now 33 states are majority republican. and while a lot of people poo-poo state legislatures, i think we need to look at running people. i've heard a little bit of pushback about the political system, that is not the only way, but it is a way and an important way. we cannot say either-or. i would lift up marion berry.
weektwo years as of next since he passed. first of all, he created a whole bunch of millionaires and he even created himself as one. but he created a whole lot of other black folks as millionaires. he empowered a lot of young people, and he had a system that empowered a lot of young people, youth mayors, etc. opened up thee civil service, which was primarily caucasian, so that more african-americans had employment in the city service. this was one man with a dream and a vision, a flawed man as everybody is. since he is not here, rob daniels, i would just quote reverend barber, who asked people to take a blood test. let's just take a blood test and talk about who you support.
if you take a blood test and it is 0%, that ain't none of your kinfolks. if you take it and it is 99.9%, take out your checkbook because that is your child. if your blood comes out 70%, you are related some kind of way. when we look at politicians, we don't want to look at whether they are perfect, are they our child, but are they are kinfolk? are kinfolk don't have to be are got to, but our kinfolk focus on the same things we stand for, and we've got to broaden our focus. one of the things the profoundly disappointed me about these debates was the absence of conversation about k-12 education. it did not come up at all. college came up, but you cannot go to college if you've not been to k-12.
i have done that, too, as a college president. some people had not been to k-12, but they had been to my college and wanted to go. that is another place where we need to talk about how we get involved. there are books in texas that talk about happy slaves. textbooks in texas, because we have ignored school boards. that is another profound place for activism. so -- we talk about next steps, take it local. all politics is local. it is as close as the water you drink, the water you bathe in, the water you flush, and where the flush goes, and where your children go to school. mark: thank you. with the reverend like to go next? is her mic up? >> hello? ok, there we go. as a minister who is also an activist, i want to say it is
important that we return to our prophetic voice in exposing the strange fruit in our society and upholding the moral authority. one example of that is reverend jeremiah a. wright was abandoned by our president of the united states for challenging the moral authority. now in america, and challenges the moral authority of its president-elect. was told to be quiet for speaking out against islamophobia and racism, now america has elected president who perpetuates these acts of hatred and is unapologetic in his divisive rhetoric. reverend wright was told he was an embarrassment to the nation and now our nation is a joke to the world. the prophetic voice of one who dared to speak to the reality of a thriving and robust state of racism in america was mocked and reduced to jokes calling him the crazy uncle. now an america has come to
realize that the wisdom of the sage has been redeemed and the roosters have come home to roost. i only ask that if reverend wright was the proverbial bewildered uncle, then who is donald trump? [applause] >> our moral authority is quite critical, and i think also, to echo my brother here, in addition to the role in the local community, we must also be prophetic in the diaspora. we have to be involved in palestine, we have to be involved in brazil, we have to be involved in haiti, we have to be involved in cuba, we have to be concerned about our sisters and brothers in the diaspora and make sure that as we are looking at legislation and laws the we are also concerned about how these legislation and laws impact the global community. thank you. [applause] >> i've got to do one thing real .uick we said it on the air earlier.
for dr.d have prayer wright, who has suffered a stroke. i was not aware of that. . just wanted to repeat everyone, please keep him and your family in our prayers. you are absolutely right. the sister was actually next, write? ron needs to come up and do a quick commercial, and then we will get to everybody else. >> the question was, what's next? i think a lot of things have been said, and most of it i definitely agree with. think for us who are active in lives, onet of black study, i have been in lots of different spaces over the last week, and people are overwhelmingly thrown off by what happened. and i was one of them. were not means we really paying attention if we
were able to be that the welder i what was going on. -- bewildered by what was going on. that's number one. two, it is understanding that capitalism will not save us. if we are thinking about black and uplifting our communities, as we continue to try to get closer and closer to white folks and to whiteness, and getting closer and closer to capitalist empowerment and capitalist means of success, we are leaving hundreds of thousands of us behind, and we will continue to do that in order to do it. one of the things that has been set a couple of times which i actually disagree with is that voters vote against their interest. that's not true. they voted for their interest 100%, because saving white supremacy is their interest, and it's been proven over and over,
and i think we need to take he -- take heed, listen, understand it, and not expect them to do anything different. the last one is really organized. we have to listen to people, knock on doors, talk to folks, and organize with our communities. i say that as a young girl person. that means enter generationally as well. how are we using different tools and techniques, whether it is online or going to churches to talk to folks, but that work is important. the last thing i would say is for all of you all in here who have or haven't, i would really invite you to look at the vision for black lives released this summer. it's a policy platform created through a collaborative process of about 50 different organizations that put out six larger demands. each one has about another 10-15
specific policy requests that go from anywhere to ending mass incarceration to reparation to housing policies to thinking about, what do we need as a black community? that's some of the work that i will be strategizing around pushing. we still have a current president and there are things he can do. we need to push him to do it, because this may be the last opportunity that we get for a while. one of them, he needs to release all political prisoners. we need to push for it. it can happen now. these are executive mandates. all he has to do is sign a piece of paper, and he can do it. he can actually end all student debt. push for him to do it. that crisis in this country it is significant for any young person who has gone to college
in the last 25 years. being able to end that. and definitely, the dakota pipeline. and to health push for reparations, right? those are things as black people we can push the first two. he can push those as an executive order. the last one is something a president in that position can say and make a difference. >> dr. ron daniels needs to come forward for a few minutes. please welcome him again, dr. ron daniels. [applause] >> we are going to have our question-and-answer period. be patient. we want to thank sirius xm for covering this program. we also want to thank c-span for covering this program. it's been a great discussion. we really, really appreciate the mayor coming all the way back from the municipal leagues and atlantic city to come here to be with us again tomorrow night.
he really shared some real clarity in terms of his perspective. [applause] now i want to say is, when we advertise these programs, there is a registration fee that we pay, but we also have sessions that are -- we always have sessions that are free and open to the public. always. last night, our session was free and open to the public. we said that this national town hall meeting we said was free and would be open to the public , but we said something else. come prepared to make a tax deductible donation to help the institute, because we have to rely on the people to do that, right? sunday morning is the last session, and that will be with the honorable minister louis farrakhan. that session is also free and open to the public.
before we go to our question-and-answer period, if we are going to do that expeditiously, everybody who came and got an envelope that was put in your bag, ok? region there and pick them up. you have your envelopes, right? we need you to help the organization that did the organizing. again, you do not have to pay a registration fee, but we ask you if you can, and i'm not going to pitch it hard. if you can, make a serious contribution to help with the work of the institute. i am not going to nickel and dime it, because there are some people out there who can actually put a $100 bill. there are some who can write a check. it is a tax-deductible donation. some people can write a check for $100. some for $50. some for $25. or you may have cash. whatever you can do, we really
appreciate it and need it. if we did not need it, we would not ask for it. the principles we operate from, someone hit me with an emailed today, saying, why are you charging? again, these things cost. freedom is not free. old slogan from the naacp days, right? even five dollars would be too much for some people. anybody who wanted to come tonight, the doors were wide open. we just ask you to make whatever kind of donation you can. we are not going to just stop the program like we normally do, but if you can make a donation, the ushers will be moving around picking up envelopes, and then we will continue with our question-and-answer. thing for another 15 minutes so that your questions can be answered for some of the panels.
how it getsy knows done. he has already started it along. he started it off with $100. i like that. give it up for the people's organization project. i like that kind of progress. but again, we are not going to make a hard sell. mr. moderator, come back and take the question and answer time. moderator: before you take the first question, i wanted to say a word about next steps here in jersey. yesterday, hundreds of students marched out of colleges and universities all over the state of new jersey and all over the nation. i think the worst thing we could do is let this situation normalize. they trying to normalize trump already. we need to join those students in the streets that are marching all over this country. i would propose we have a march
on saturday, december 3, to oppose donald trump. the next thing is, next year as my reverend brother mentioned we have a gubernatorial election. we need a black agenda for new jersey. we need a black agenda for new jersey. all these candidates coming through. they already have three declared for governor. there may be more. when they come to us, we need to pull our agendas out and say what are your positions on our agenda? that we would propose convention for a black agenda in new jersey saturday, march the bring fourth. everybody together, saturday, march 4, this gives us time to get the word out about it and we could bring together everybody throughout the state. the issue of reparations was
raised. for the most part, an issue of the black intelligentsia. and an issue of activists. we have to begin to show there is widespread support in our community for reparation. the people's organization for progress is calling for a national march for reparations for african people saturday, june 24. i ask that you return to newark, and let us return in large numbers, and show there is widespread support in our community for reparation. finally, i am here caught up in the vortex of history. i'm sitting between a picture of mayor baraka and his son. and i am sitting adjacent to ron
daniels. ron daniels and i were delegates at the national black political conviction -- convention in gary, indiana in 1972. ron, i would say we need another national black assembly to bring people together to put together a national agenda for the black community. i believe there are brothers and sisters trying to put it together now. they have something called the freedom manifesto. maybe we should hook up with them and put it all together for a national movement. but brothers and sisters, again, i go back to the point i made when i first spoke. we need to do massive voter registration. we lost ground, but we did not lose new jersey. the people of new jersey voted the right way on november 8. but, like when obama got elected
in 2008, who was elected the next year? it could happen again. we cannot go to sleep. we need to register and come out in massive numbers for the gubernatorial election in 2017, for the congressional elections in 2018, and we need to start planning now our black agenda for the presidential election in 2020. that is my next step. moderator: let me do this quickly. in fairness, two people had their hands up. i am going to get as many questions in as possible. you wanted to say something? >> many of us talk about what we want to do, but we need to start walking the walk and doing the work. i look across the country, and i see so many activists who can barely make it.
when they believe in a cause and they are out there. we go to church and we tithe. we need to tithe to help the activists out there working for us every day. [applause] >> i have been blessed. i have been able to go to palestine, haiti, many places around the country. i am a dick gregory disciple. i see people picketing and i say, what are you picketing for? i get out of my car and ticket picket with them because i believe in their cause. but we need to start paying activists who make it a full-time job without pay to be for us. so let's take about a fund. i know we don't like to talk about money a lot, but we spend a lot of it with other people who are our oppressors. anybody who is comfortable with our oppressors are our
oppressors, and we need to begin to understand that and pay the people who are helping us. i am a lawyer. i never get a penny for being a lawyer. and there are many other lawyers around this country who help our people whenever they can, after they have spent all their money with other people. they come to we need to pay activists. making theming of rich. we need to pay them a living wage. as we talk about all of these , we have to about how we spend our money. >> a lot of talk with all of you at some point.
we may need to go back on january 20. stay tuned to most of that. the cayenne one of the questions, and this is a question that came from the audience, what do you believe to be the greatest economic development for our people. last year on the front page of was a storyere below the full about black baby boomers and their money.
the black baby boomers would be the first generation to raise another generation of african-americans that do not do better than them. we are the only generation to raise another generation that would be more soft. our ancestors must be rolling in their graves. we must save our children. we must save our children. there are a number of ways to do that. i will expand on that tomorrow. there is one habit that no other people in america have. it is a bad habit and we need to fix this habit tomorrow morning.
a report came out in may of last year. it was on television viewership by rates. and the conclusion of the report, african-americans watch 72 hours of-- watch television per week. in thean any other group world. that is 10 hours of television per day. anyone watching 10 hours of television per day needs there ass kicked. if you are watching 10 hours of television per day and really enjoyed reality television, you were totally entertained by trump. stop it.
use the time to organize. organize. all things considered, the minimal we can do is black people for our children, the we have a moral and spiritual responsibility to get our children in and out of high school with a diploma, reading levelmprehending at grade andout a criminal record without a child. if you do those three things for our children you will lay the foundation for the rest of their life. that is the minimum we can do. i don't know what the graduation a -- graduation rate is for
black people here in newark. in cleveland it is 49%. can you imagine a young brother in the 21st century without a high school diploma. where is that brother going? to jail. and of sentence. you go the next thing turn off the television, focus on your children, organize. it is going to be a bloodbath. >> maybe you want to take this one. how will black lives matter look on and advocacy federal level in a trump administration? what is next for blm?
>> i will try to answer that. the first one is i think as an organization or network they are in the process of figuring that out. as a broader movement i think people are in the process of figuring that out. what i can say from the isversations we have had that people aren't going down easy. there is a level of conversation i'm going to have here but i am also very aware we are on c-span and there is a level of conversation i will not have. what i will say of same amount of pressure people were putting current and the administration, i think people were ready to vote harder. there was a lot of consolidating. i had friends of mine who are not organizers, who are not
activists. there is a conversation about following young people in the streets. young people in the streets all over the country in reaction to this current administration. one of the organizations i run, we do training. i'm excited about the ways in which we are not just going to use actions and protest to be able to apply pressure, but also apply pressure that is in connection with organizing and different policy with norms on a local level. intoi think it goes continuing to shift the national conversation. one of the most successful has been able to shift the national conversation. i think that will continue, as
well as conversations in all communities across the country. really what does it look like to be in a part of a movement that lets all black people? what can we do so we continue to show up for each other. real specifically about understanding a system. i cannot blame you for not having jobs. we can look at what does that mean in our system? i was a youth organizer for about a decade. i understand how young people are being pushed out of school. that, do we understand acknowledge that, not blame our
people, but help organize and solve those conditions? that is one of the things we're going to continue to do. i want to commend the young people in the black lives matter movement. they help draw attention to the oure of policeman tally people are still being shot at my dogs in this -- dogs in the streets. this year almost 1000 have been killed by the police. and in our prisons people talk about the brutality there. killedsoners have been in our prisons in the united states. every 28 hours a black person is
killed. right here in new jersey we have some high profile cases. did you see the video of a young man who had his hands up when he was shot and killed? his mother and father, with a standup. give them a hand. mourn theot just death of their son got involved his mother said he was unconscious when they shot him in the head. his grandmother and mother, with a standup? -- had a cell phone in his hand when he wish shot 15 times by black and latino police.
and 14 years old, shot seven times in the back by trenton police. we have been demonstrating every monday for 42 consecutive ,ondays at the federal building calling on the u.s. attorney for new jersey to launch a civil rights investigation into the , and -- jerome read we need people all around the country to chime in for michael brown and eric garner. all of these cases are our cases. yet we must 100% stand with are fightingo
against the dakota access pipeline, when we have issues in our community that people need to be taking a stand on and fighting again. i have been talking and putting we see 12 to 15 people in front of the federal building. it can't the that way. we get back out in the streets. >> we are short on time, unfortunately. i want to affirm, with all due respect as well, i want to ourrm that the struggles of sisters and brothers is our
struggle to. you have to be careful of any type of language that makes it appear one struggle is greater than the other. as enslaved in people seeking liberation. it has been run through our own bloodline. the water crisis they are experiencing is the same one crisis we saw in flint michigan and the catholic. it is important that we change the narrative and make it very that we are united and we are fighting this fight together. as i look at what is happening with the federal building your, larry was talking about what is happening here, it strikes me we have these injustices.
it's systemic. and the response would have to be systemic. we can call the role and call the list. the pain is going to keep coming. the response test before more systemic. from a public policy perspective, we have to look at how police officers are held accountable. we have to look at public policy around policing. a coalition of ministers had said they wanted to be able to interview the incoming police chief, but the community needs
to have that opportunity. not disrespecting any struggle. it is too often tempting to say why this and not act. we systemically stand up to predatory capitalistic oppression? that makes our lives a return on investment, the lack of lives, incarceration, a profit center for somebody. that is a question we have to take at look at more broadly. they are not people standing in solidarity still around those issues and with our brothers and sisters that have suffered. i think there are more than one ways to occupy and be present in solidarity. people are creatively finding ways to do just that through social media and the like.
you, it should not be centered on any one particular person, but we have to be careful, the election points that we are stronger united, we have greater risks and challenges. importance -- it is important we lift of solidarity among our communities of color, and we have a danger when we a form -- we affirm our solidarity. >> you cannot #your way to freedom. >> i don't think there is disagreement in that. i think there are these individual incidents that people stand with around. i think the doctor is right. we have to come up with a systemwide approach to this and to confront police
violence and advocate for community control and oversight of the police. and that has to be across the board as opposed to one city one way. that's what they are doing. we are divided in terms of resources because of that. we have to wrap up, i apologize. i'm going to turn it over back to dr. daniels. there will be many activities throughout the weekend. thank you for the opportunity to be here. ask thelike to panelists and mayor to remain. once again please welcome ron daniels. >> let's give a big round of applause.
we have people that have to get the last shuttle back to the doubletree. that is one of the constraints we are facing. to say tomorrow, for those of you who are registered, we have a series of sessions taking place tomorrow morning. we do have a major assessment george fraser is going to be a part of. then we have a major session on the black family. all of the sessions, it is not just about expressing grievances. you look at george fraser, you look at somebody who has built a serious network. have other economic agendas and programs we are going to be exposed to, the issue of police accountability.
and also talking about innovative programs that are happening around the country. many are happening because of and struggle in the streets that are forcing those changes. of thatyou to be aware in terms of the participation you bring today. give a big round of applause to and being for coming patient. vendors who have come. one of the most beautiful african-american marketplaces you can see. we want to continue to raise that flag and also get a t-shirt as well. what i'm going to ask is that we all stand.