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men in uniform support and resources they need. the work of our diplomats is very different, but it's critical to our national security. these dedicated public servants help to project stability and diffuse crises before they start. the dollars and cents perspective it makes more sense to prevent crises than to stop them after they are burning out of control. we need diplomacy to succeed so using military is the last resort in our foreign policy. this legislation will ensure that our diplomacy does succeed. i hope this bill gets across the finish line soon and i hope the senate does its job and make the state department authorization a yearly priority for the congress and for the american people. i urge a yes vote on this bill. and i yield back.
the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the gentleman from california is ecognized. mr. royce: i want to yield, mr. speaker, two minutes to the gentleman from texas, mr. gohmert. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas is recognized. mr. gohmert: thank you. and thank you, mr. chairman. i am a big fan of your work and i appreciate all the work of the committee in these difficult areas. sometimes in trying to bring together the big authorization bill like this, language gets inserted that can be problematic and on page 105, for example, section 713, recruitment and retention of individuals who have lived, worked, or studied in predominantly muslim
countries or communities, we know that one of our problems when we were trying to deal with radical islam is, number one, our president doesn't recognize radical islam, although some of the best experts who are radical islamists say, yes, it exists. and muslim friends like esident acee see -- like president el-sisi acknowledges it's a problem. but this says, the president shall make every effort to recruit and retain individuals who have lived, worked or studied in muslim couldn't res, including those who have studied at muslim institutions of higher learning. i know this was not submitted by muslim, far from it, but although we desperately need people that have lived and tudied in this area, to tell
the secretary of state that the secretary shall make every effort to get people like this is the way our enemies take advantage of us. we should not be telling the secretary to make every effort as a former chief justice that's the kind of thing you have to say, well he didn't make every effort, she didn't make every effort. we should not be coercing the state department to hire people appropriate re not or have muslim ties, they should not -- they shouldn't be pushed into the state department. mr. royce: let me say in response, mr. speaker, that we should hire in the state department people who do have some experience. we should have some people there
with some experience with muslim culture and and muslim countries. with that kind of background. but that said, we want to work with the gentleman from texas on implementation of this bill to make certain that these concerns are handled and if i should take this moment to close, are there any other speakers, i might inquire, on the other side of the aisle? the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from kale has the only ime remaining. mr. royce: i yield two minutes to the gentlewoman from florida, ms. fran tell. - frankle.
-- ms. frankel. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady is recognized. ms. frankel: i want to tell you a story one of our ambassadors told, i won't say her name or where she was but she told me she was overseas and the security that they hired was so or that they actually had to hire criminals and that her security guard not only robbed her and her family, but killed their dog. and that is just an example of some of the quality of security that we had for our ambassadors who deserve absolutely our utmost protection. so i just want to thank both the chair and the ranking member for working with me to get this provision in this bill that now is going to let our state
department get well-qualified security for our embassies, which they deserve to have. with that, i yield back. thank you. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california is recognized. mr. royce: i yield myself such time as i may consume, mr. speaker. and i want to thank the gentlelady from florida for her contribution to this legislation. and speaker, as chairman i also want to thank our ranking member, mr. engel. i want to thank all my committee colleagues, for their contributions to this bill. but i think we should take the opportunity to thank our counterparts, senator corker and senator cardin in the senate for working with us to bring the first state authorization bill to the president's desk in over 15 years. today, the department is considering how to deploy diplomats in high threat, high risk places like south sudan.
like the central african republic. yemen. libya. it is our responsibility to make sure that u.s. personnel at these posts have every available means of protection, and this bill authorizes the department to make critical upgrades in embassy security this bill also mandates that the department use its leverage at the united nations to make improvements that have been ignored for too long. in just the last year, we have heard horrific stories of peace keepers sexually abusing and exploiting those they are sent to protect. sadly, these are not the first instances of such predatory behavior, but the united nations has failed to take steps to stop t. oversight is necessary at any agency. it took five years for the
department's position to be filled and this makes sure the department has all the tools it needs to perform its mandate. this bill deserves our support. the other body should move quickly so these reforms can be signed into law by the president. and i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the question is, will the house suspend the rules and pass s. 1635 as amended? those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, 2/3 -- then the affirmative, gentleman is recognize. mr. gohmert: i ask for the yeas and nays. the speaker pro tempore: the yeas and nays are requested. those in favor of taking this vote by the yeas and nays will rise and remain standing until counted. a sufficient number having risen, the yeas and nays are ordered. pursuant to clause of rule 20, further proceedings on this uestion will be postponed.
pursuant to clause 12-a of rule 1, the chair declares the house in recess until approximately 6:30 p.m. today. >> washington journal continues. joining us, mike lillis, a senior reporter for the hill that covers congress extensively. what does it mean to be a house democratic these days? guest: it means you are in a position that you do not think
you would be in a month ago. there has been some turmoil. they have been in disarray since the election. they came in. they thought that was going to be a bone to them down ballot. they thought they were going to pick up a significant number of seats. they thought they were going to take the senate. none of those things happened. they are in this position of "what went wrong?" they are going to do an autopsy. set of the commission and say what went wrong and how did we miss these voters? how can we energize our base? we did not do it this time around. to be a democrat is to be questioning the future of the party. host: there is a lot of talk of unity. is that the case? guest: we saw a lot of this unity in the wake of this election.
there was enormous call for the leadership to be overthrown. nancy pelosi has been there for 14 years. there is a younger crop of people who are frustrated that they have not been able to move up the ladder. frustrated that this is the fourth election cycle that they have not been able to take the majority saying we have to go back to square one. we have got to go back to winning. anti-pelosi raises a lot of money and yes she has experience. -- nancy pelosi raises a lot of money and yes, she has experience. after fourying cycles where to do something to win. tim ryan came in and challenged her. he lost. pelosi will be there. her authority is unquestioned. going forward, there is this movement that is growing as the years go by, these people are getting younger and younger. you are seeing this happen in real time.
host: he talked about tim ryan and his loss. talk about how many votes he got. is that significant that he got the number he did? asked.depends on who he if you ask nancy pelosi, she got two thirds of the vote. it was 134 to 63. she is saying yes, i still command this enormous amount of the very liberal leading caucus. question.is not in tim ryan comes in and says wait a minute, the last time you were challenged, that was after they got wiped out. they lost 63 seats and they have not rebounded since. heath shuler was a blue dog democrat from north carolina, not very senior. he challenged her. it was more of a symbolic challenge. it is a secret ballot.
he got 43 votes. it was a little more than people thought he was going to get. there was that since that with the secret ballot, i can cast this protest vote and say, because we get wiped out, we snap with the same person in. it was that kind of message. he got 43 and line comes in and gets 63. again, you see this growing. the wave is growing. younger people coming in. host: the role of the house democrats postelection. if you want to ask him questions about that, what it means for policymaking -- you can post on twitter and our facebook page.
let's hear from nancy pelosi just after her reelection, how she talks about going forward and mike lillis will get you to comment. , workinggo forward very closely together as the opposition which is a different role. our unity is very important. will be strategic, unifying and unwavering in our support. that is what joins us together. everything else is part of who we are. what unifies us is our values and those values -- said mike lillis, she america's working families twice. what goes on from here? unity.she is calling for they have been unified all along. they are scratching their head this month.
pushing,s they're been economics did not pull very well. they support gun reform. all of these polled in the 80% to 90% percentiles. figure out why they whenosing based on this -- she is saying unity, she is stressing that they are on the same page. tim ryan believes in all of those issues. when she says unity, she is talking about issues and the need to figure out how to convince voters they are on the same page. i think what you are going to see them do long into the future is hone that message, helped convince people that we are for them and how do we translate
wage,olls -- minimum social security -- how do we translate that into sibling which they can go on a bumper sticker? here tim ryan will be wednesday to share his thoughts on the democratic party and its future. mike lillis, our current guest to talk about these things. you can go to the hill.com to see his writing. nicholas from pikesville, maryland. republican line. go ahead caller:. just go ahead. caller: i have a question in a comment. the implication was with schuyler, there was a secret ballot but with a, there wasn't? -- guest: the secret ballot was for both of those elections.
because of the secret ballot, someone can vote in or against policy without suffering any political repercussions. inosi has done very good uniting the party. she can keep -- she can kick people off committees. she can demote them. she raises tons of money. she cannot give that to certain campaigns. she has ways of keeping democrats in line. the secret ballot just allows somebody, maybe a freshman member, to go in there and vote for the other candidate without nancy pelosi ever knowing. it gives you anonymity and there is no repercussions. i am sorry for the confusion. wisconsin, independent line. pedro. yes, great show,
i was going to say, the reason i am independent is because i think the republicans and democrats, neither one of them follow the constitution. the democrats have basically been the same for the last 45 -- 44 years. the mcgovern i took over the party. media covering them now not exposing their radical agenda. the public is catching on, pretty much so in the midwest where i live. -- i see theo say media keeps on beating up on trump. i was not a big trump fan at all. i was wondering, do you think the democrats in the future here are going to bring more people in, like heath shuler or tim ryan. or do you think it is good to
stay like a coastal party? host: great question. that is the composition they're having. at the top, it is going to stay a coastal party. they try to topple policy. -- try to topple pelosi. california after that. what they have done is to carve out new leadership positions that are not going to go to does that are going to go to more junior members -- that are going to go to more junior members. this was tim ryan's argument all along. out -- he is the youngstown, ohio, blue-collar manufacturing district. trump won the district. he says i am the guy who can go to fish fries. i can talk to these voters. we can get these voters back to
the democratic fold. pelosi recognizing this and realizing she has to do something, which she did not do in 2010. the challenge was not strong enough. this year is very different. she has carved out a number of new leadership posts. if you ask the critics, they say they are cosmetic things to cover her -- for her to save face. if you ask of those who are being placed in those positions, they are appreciative that they are going to have a spot at the table. they will be in those weekly leadership meetings as they steer message and policy. that is the type of thing you are going to see pete we had some elections on friday. we are going to have some elections this afternoon when congress returns. those names will be unrolled. host: what happens this
afternoon? guest: they are going to vote on the campaign arm. pelosi used to appoint the head of the test the head of the democratic -- he was appointed two years ago. people have said that is getting too much power to one person. part of this conversation in revolt postelection is need to spread that power around. now that role is going to be elected. here was a thought that would be challenged. sean patrick maloney suggested that he might challenge him. not going to happen. lujan will run unchallenged. he will be the chair for the next two years. there is a committee called the democratic policy and taken into effect aas
couple of years ago. nancy pelosi carved a position out. it was appointed, but now it will be elected. it will be divided among three different vice-chairman. so, they are trying to spread power and make it more to microsoft -- democracized. so, spreading the power around regionally and generationally. allowing these people to vote. host: a democrat from springfield, virginia, erica, you are on. caller: good morning. what i see on the democratic side of the party -- it seems that they have walked away from the grassroots. vocation, but we do not need charity. we want a $15 minimum wage raise. debt reduction
to be much more aggressive, so students can go back and invest in the economy. we do not need little things. we need to walk away from corporations. that is very, very important. say, some people respect nancy pelosi, and i understand. the new generation means new democratic leaders coming along. progressive, and it really want to make change. they want to move away from corporate influence. that is what we need to fight against. host: erica, we will let our guest response. you have put a lot out there.
guest: a great comment. part of the discussion they are having right now is how are we going to defend president obama's legacy from donald trump and congressional majorities in both chambers. there is a lot of disagreement on what to do on that front. a lot of people agree with you that the reason the democrats lost was that the message did not resonate. that they did not get there liberal base out because they went to soft. they did not fight hard enough for court, liberal values. values.liberal i should mention, they have strong checking in congress in bernie sanders and senator elizabeth moran. nancy pelosi is in a different spot because she is a leader, and she has to negotiate with the other republican leaders. think shef policy, i is 100% on the same page as bernie sanders and elizabeth warren.
policy wise, you have that sector. it is a very liberal heavy democratic caucus. so a lot of people agree with exec or what you have said. shifting gears, there is also recognition that they will have to compromise if they want to get anything done. when obamanell -- was elected, mitch mcconnell was the senate minority leader at the time. he said that his primary goal was not going to be to allow obama to do anything at all. he wanted him to be a one term president, so they blocked everything. he was criticized soundly for that. eight years later, politically, it seemed to have worked out for republicans. so, some democrats are saying we need to make donald trump a one term president. that was set in no uncertain terms last week. so, there's kind of a mixed message on whether or not we should work with donald trump.
democrats have always been a party that wants to govern and believe in government. they are at this crossroads where they do not -- they cannot burn the house down just to defeat donald trump and block everything he wants to do. there is a sense they have to work with him. a the same time, there is group of liberals that feel they need to fight for their values and block everything that would undo them. host: from pennsylvania for our llis, this isi john. go ahead. caller: pelosi is 76 years old. democrats are in the upper 70's. they are part of the new -- the neoliberal switch that can be attached to the clintons. clinton in 1996 when neoliberal
which is a corporate stance. that has not worked. it split the democratic party between the black caucus in the neoliberal's. -- and the neoliberal's. bernie sanders was popular because he was a democrat. he was not taken in by all the money. the neoliberal's work. liberals were.eo that is one of the problems. they need to learn from republicans. they are really the organization that runs the republican party. guest: i think this goes back to the previous question. as the democrats try to locate a strategy to get them back on the
winning track, do they stick with their liberal values or compromise? you mentioned alex, but the -- alec, but the democrats have id of support, t -- plenty of support, too. with the demise of labor unions over the years, a lot of their support base has eroded. so, the trick is to appeal to a lot of those workers left behind by the great recession. everything is economics these days. that is what this election said. that is almost what all of these elections said. 2010 was a little different, because obamacare made a difference. however, economics is the way.
democrats need to find a weird appeal in this way, otherwise it will not work. have a twitter message sent in. going into 2018 and 2020, what do democrats face as far as elections? aret: midterm elections always difficult for the incumbent party. nancy pelosi's argument was that she has done this before, and she knows what it takes. in 2004, we wiped out the republicans in the midterm elections. her or is it right now is she experienced and she can do it again. that's her argument. 2018 will be a very different cycle for republicans. a lot of people that were thought to be wiped out this year were not, but they will be very vulnerable in two years. historically, it is a tough
cycle for the incumbent party. so, nancy pelosi is saying that with all of those actors combined we could make enormous -- those factors combined, we can make an enormous difference. give me a chance, and i will make it happen. that is her message. nancy pelosi thinks she can do it, and we will not know until two years from now. that is her argument. host: sun city, california. on the democrats line should write, go ahead -- on the democrats line, roy, go ahead. caller: can you hear me? guest: -- host: yes, you are on. caller: first, i wish the democrats would be more obstructionist like the republicans were. we as democrats always want to
govern and look out for the people. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] >> all of today's washington journal on cspan.org. now live to the house floor for a series of votes on bills debated earlier. rules previously postponed. votes will be taken in the following order. h.r. 5015 by the yeas and nays. h.r. 6427 by the yeas and nays. and s. 1635 by the yeas and nays. the first electronic vote will be conducted as a 15-minute vote. the remaining electronic votes will be conducted as five-minute votes. the unfinished business is the vote on the motion of the gentleman from texas, mr. brady, to suspend the rules and pass h.r. 5015 as amended. which the yeas and nays are ordered. the clerk will report the title of the bill. the clerk: h.r. 5015 a bill to restore amounts improperly
withheld for tax purposes from severance pay for individuals who retired or separated from service in the armed forces for combat related injuries and for other purposes. the speaker pro tempore: the question is will the house splules and pass the bill as amended? members will record their votes by electronic device. this is a 15-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]
this vote the yeas are 392, the nays are zero. recorded as presented 2/3 of those voting having responded in the affirmative, the rules are suspended, the bill ises passed. without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid on the table. the unfinished business is the vote on the motion of the gentleman from new jersey, mr. garrett, to suspend the rules and pass h.r. 6427 on which the yeas and nays are ordered. the clerk will report the title of the bill. the clerk: h.r. 6427, a bill to improve the operation of the united states capital market it's and for other purposes. -- markets and for other purposes. the speaker pro tempore: the question is, will the house suspend the rules and pass the bill. members will record their votes by electronic device. this is a five-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the