tv House Speaker Paul Ryan Discusses Economic Mobility CSPAN December 16, 2016 1:53am-2:32am EST
this job, as a career prosecutor, somebody who has been around this work for a long time about the top job, what's been the most surprising thing? atty. gen. lynch: i'm not so sure you -- jake: expected it all, right? atty. gen. lynch: there is no way you can anticipate everything that happens in the day of the life of an attorney general. people ask me to describe my day. every day is so different. but every day is so incredibly rewarding. the people that i get to work with. if the intelligence communities, from law enforcement agencies that we work with so closely, so what -- i wouldn't say it's a surprise, but what's been most gratifying is to see, even though i was a u.s. attorney in the field but to see the larger role of the department in the lives of the american eople. that's been tremendously gratifying to be able to go out to the west coast and talk to local law enforcement officers ho are on a task force and here -- a human trafficking task force with the fbi and talk to them about what a different this is made in the human trafficking victims they
have been able to rescue. to hear that and see that has been wonderful. o talk to prosecutors from across the country from different offices and who have different issues and priorities maybe from my old office and see that same data vacation -- same dedication has just been incredibly gratifying. o be able to talk to local law enforcement agencies and provide them with body cameras, for example, and hear them say what a difference it's made in policing on the streets. and how they interact with civilians. and watch them interact with young people. to talk to the police department about setting up a youth advisory council and then come back to them several months later and they say we did that and it has changed the way in which we police and we now know the kid and have a positive relationship with more f the youth.
to see that kind of work going on gives me tremendous faith in this country, in the american people and people who care about these issues, and as the attorney general to be able to see the results of the policies that are put in place has been outstanding. anna: obviously focusing on the last remaining days of your enure, but what's next for you? will you be staying in washington, can you give us a preview about where you will be? taking a vacation, turning her phone off? tty. gen. lynch: so, at this point, we're committed to running through the tape as the president has asked us, as you can see, we still have a host of things that we are working on to resolve in the weeks ahead and we're confident that we can do that. and continuing raising the important issues we've been working on. like so many people i'll be decompressing for a while, after the administration is over, and then deciding where o go and what to do.
but one of the benefits of being the attorney general is seeing the tremendous variety of commitment out there in the field and knowing that i'll be able to continue working on these issues that are important to me. anna: what is the single thing, the decompression, are you going to turn off your blackberry and not answer? jake: are you going to throw it into an ocean somewhere, like i feel like doing some days? atty. gen. lynch: i won't encourage the destruction of roperty. jake: especially company roperty. atty. gen. lynch: not before january 20. so i can't encourage that sort of thing. i'll just be decompressing and having some quiet time and then deciding what to do next. but, you know, when -- when i left the administration before, before i ended up staying in new york, i was able to work on a number of things that were of great importance to me in terms of public service. nd there are so many wonderful things that people can do. and i'm looking forward to exploring that as well. anna: great, thank you so much,
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>> ever since his days working with the late jack kemp at power america, paul ryan has been sounding this alarm on our failing anti-poverty system and offering bold ideas to empower americans to overcome the economic challenges they face. he spoke passionately about solving poverty while on the republican ticket in 2012. two years later he revealed a
plan at the american enterprise institute to tern federal anti-poverty spending over to the states. and earlier this year he did it again releasing a proposal from house task force to assemble on poverty opportunity and upward mobile. speaker ryan understands that our anti-poverty programs often do more to trap people in poverty than to lift them out of it. these are complex problems that require thoughtful solutions. that means there's no easy route, there's no shortcut. and while many in washington run from these problem, speaker ryan has run towards them. you can always know he will be the guy that he will pay more attention to the difficult details. his anti-poverty proposals have broken new ground and helps
reinvigorate the bipartisan conversation about economic mobility. now, speaker ryan is in a historic position to turn ideas nto reality. i know all of us here stand ready to help. the u.s. chamber is committed to advance the cause of greater opportunity and economic mobility. we will do it because it's the right thing to do. and we will do it because it is critical to our nation's overall economic health. business cannot succeed and our economy and our citizens cannot prosper if our people cannot reach their potential. fortunately, speaker ryan has proven that he has the courage and the intellect to tackle our nation's biggest challenges. in addition to championing
efforts to help people out of poverty, he's been fighting for physical responsibility, tax reform, regulatory reform and so many other pro-growth policies for his entire career. we're going to need him to keep it up and keep this fight going like never before. there are few people in this country with more on their shoulders today than speaker ryan. but he is well equipped to take on the challenges. after his remarks today the speaker will sit down veteran wall street reporter jerry side for further discussion. please join me in welcoming and encouraging speaker paul ryan. [applause]
speaker ryan:. so in other words, no pressure. thanks. first of all, it's really nice to be here. tamar and robert -- where is jimmy? is jimmy in the room somewhere? give him a hard time for this, will you. i want to thank everybody on this placard for being involved. what is this? what is this? where coming to a consensus on how to fight poverty and restore upper mobility in america. number one, re--- we agree this these before. we agree far too many people are slipping to the crack spirit we agree that
opportunity is lacking. we agree to this beautiful notion, the american idea that the condition of your birth doesn't determine the outcome of your life. it is an idea a lot of people do not leave it anymore. if some people do not believe in it is not true universally at all. it is our job to restore this. this is what conservatives have been working on for years and this is what is exciting. e have been spending so much time trying to figure out how we can better solve these problems, how we can take our principles, plight into problems to offer really good innovative solutions that are effective. i would just say a few things on that, other than to say you have in front of you a very willing and a very engaged congress ready to tackle this issue. we have spent years on this, in particular the last year we spent putting together a very specific and coherent blueprint on providing upward mobility and fighting poverty. number one works. we have got to do more to make it easier for people to join the workforce. cap to do more to make it asier for people to transition to the workforce. we have to remove the -- what
is preventing people from getting on the workforce. e have innovative solutions to do that. number to put -- displacing local poverty fighters. we cannot keep thinking that washington knows best. we have to stop the commodification of the bore. we have to stop fighting this dea of poverty as if it is some sterile concept we do not ike them crates and program in ashington, then parachute into communities and push them aside and say we know what is best. we have to stop doing that. if you had to describe the war on poverty, as noble as it was, this war is a stalemate. what we learn what we go into communities is there are people who are doing tremendous work were fighting poverty eye to eye, soul to soul, person to erson, who we all need to work
from. instead of displacing that work we do to back it up. the government has a very important role to play. manning the supply lines but not dictating the front lines. that, to me, is one of the really important acknowledgments that we have to express. stop displacing civil society. stop pushing aside local, homegrown, proven poverty fighters. et their stories told to their success can be replicated. cross pollinate across the country. get everything and everyone working hand in hand on the same page in the same direction. civil society. faith-based charity. secular charities. everybody in between. right now fighting at odds with each other. right now we has conservatives want to do his make sure everyone is working on the same page with the right ncentives.
number three, test results. his is not partisan. patty murray and i wrote a bill, passed into law a year ago, creating a policy commission. some of the numbers are probably here. so that we can better measure the success of our efforts, better measure the success of programs that we test results in we judge success in the war on party and the -- an upper mobility not based on effort, not on how many programs they are creating or dollars sending, but based on results. we getting people out of poverty? are we creating upper obility? does it work? let's focus on the results. if we do those fundamental things, make sure that we smooth it have to work, make sure it always pays, remove barriers, stop taxing people $.80 only dollar from taking a step into the workforce. make sure we do not display civil society, that we work with civil society and local poverty fighters and as our results. ith respect to providing upper
mobility on all levels of the scale of the income scale, we have got to close the skill gap and get economic growth. that is a big, full agenda. it involves things like tax reform, making america more competitive. making our industrial base more vibrant. it involves closing the skills gap. people need to get the skills they need and getting employers involved in the pursuit of doing this. it involves getting government to respect his limits in removing the barriers and then putting policies in place that it is the growth we need to give us the jobs and opportunities. closing the school gaps and going after, fighting the heart persistent problems with persistent property. that is why we think -- persistent poverty. that is why we think this conversation is right. want to take this conversation, moving in the right direction and then start putting results out there.
getting bills passed. this is what we're serious about doing. it is a moment that i think should not be a partisan moment. this is one where we see the evidence in front of us and go with that works. ll i want to do is say thank you for doing this. i see a lot of familiar faces here. we are very excited about this. we're very excited about having the opportunity to tackle one of the more persistent and stubborn problems that we have enjoyed with as a country and we are excited about learning from the people on the ground let me to difference and making sure that we can see more of that. removing these barriers and getting everyone on the same page. thank you very much for being here and look for to the conversation. thank you so much. i appreciate it. [applause] >> thank you, mr. speaker. i think a speak for all of us when i say thank you for bringing some of that janesville whether to us. [laughter] speaker ryan: it is going to be 19 below zero.
> packers weather. i appreciate the chance. it is hard for me to start a conversation like this without talking about jack kemp. i wrote about him, you work for him. his name is up there, as you noted. if he were there todaye -- here today, still preaching the optimistic, happy, big tent brand of conservatism that he liked to talk about, what would e be pleased about and displeased about in terms of where we are right now? speaker ryan: i remember we would have conservative meetings about fighting poverty and he -- and you could sit everyone around one table at his office. it was like, six people. this is exciting just to see this effort. i think he would be really excited. if jack were here or if his son ere on time --
remind him i said that. he would be excited that the battle of ideas has really matured to the point where we have so many more people engaged in this fight. my mentor, in addition to jack kemp, is bob woodson. i met bob through jack rack in he early 1990's. bob and i spent a lot of time over the years traveling the country. i just asked for a tutor. teach me. i want to learn. i have these principles and a good opinion on what they look like and how they work. i learned that from jack emp. let's see how it works in reality. what i'm excited about is more and more and more people. i haven't getting house your public is to do this -- getting out and communities to do this. i think what jack would be excited about is the engagement
and the participation of so many people in the senate right on this issue. when he would be really upset about is the polarization of ur politics. he is a happy warrior. we think of ourselves as happy warriors. the glass of life is half-full, not empty. you appeal to the better angels of people. you have rigorous debates on ideas but it is done in an inclusive way. i think you'd be upset about the polarization of politics today. >> there was a related agenda that i think really emerged in this election and with the election of donald trump. just the concerns of the working class, for lack of a better term. let me ask you this philosophical question. as a free-market conservative, someone who believes in the power of free markets and the privacy of markets, how do you then address the concerns of people in this working-class, poor segment was -- which
issued a primal scream that markets do not work for them. how'd you do with that concern? speaker ryan: you are pretending we have an upright with free-market economic policies and we have not. what we have our policies that have produced slower economic growth and more disparity of income and less opportunity. i think a lot of our own policies, our own government domestic policies have been a big cause for that. whether it is the poverty trap because of the way the welfare program works or does not work. whether it is a regulatory state which is really hurting jobs, especially small businesses, manufacturers. whether it is our tax policy which makes us extremely uncompetitive. i live in wisconsin, live on the block i grew up on. the people i went to high school with, most of them either went to the gm plant or something like that in janesville. our big employer since 2009 was -- until 2009 was general otors. you could get a really good job there and have a very nice life
and your kids can do the same. that just went. we lost the plant like that. now they are all made in texas. there really was not anything to replace those jobs. the guys want to high school with, they either moved because they had seniority so they went to st. louis or indiana in a couple other places, arlington, or they did something else. a buddy of mine who i worked with on an adoption case, he is a nice guy at a convenience store. he would from a good, skilled job with great benefits, six-figure income at gm to the manager at basically a 7-eleven. >> i actually worked there when i grew up in kansas. i didn't know it went that far est.
speaker ryan: there is a perfect example -- his name, john --of the anxiety and the lack of opportunity. i can give you stories. wisconsin is like that. huge anxiety. what do we do about it? i see johnson controls, biggest company in wisconsin, now is an irish company. they are moving to ireland. they have a 12 and a half percent tax rate. we are a big miller town. we brew the beer there but the headquarters is now overseas. we are losing our base. we're losing our companies. we're losing our competitiveness. then you take a look at all of he buried regulations that are making it really hard for better just to replace those jobs. then the skill gap is a huge issue. we are beginning to grow local businesses, local manufacturers, people with 52 150 jobs. but now with all this atrophy we have experienced how they on't have the skills to line
up with it. we cannot find welders in wisconsin. you can make a very good income as a custom high skilled welder. employers are now just taking orever -- taking up themselves to train people. we have got a situation where i think this election uncovered this -- there are a lot of working-class people who were doing well and are doing much, much worse, who do not see good rospects in front of them, and we do not have an education system that can help them were -- help them acquire the system -- the skills they need to get a better job. hat is why this issue of upper mobility should not be a segment -- we should not be talking to people as if they are stuck in class. we believe in class mobility. we have a policy where we will have ideas to deal with economic growth, american competitiveness, restoring
jobs, manufacturing, closing the skills gap, and doing with the welfare poverty trap so we can get people unstuck from a trapped therein. that, to me, is one of the biggest messages we should get rom this election. >> you are defining in the extremely broad agenda. in the prioritizing that you're going to have to do, where is the property program fit n? speaker ryan: it is among the highest. i do not see these as mutually exclusive. i think what most of us -- because of where we come from, we are very familiar with the working-class economic anxiety issues. that is where i am from. a lot of us had to go and spend time in the persistent work communities in rural and urban america. go to appalachia.
i can list the name of places. that, i think come is the more ersistent problem that requires emergency surgery. hat, to me, is about the stuff that everyone on this placard are talking about. we did a break summit in south carolina. we have been talking about these ideas, now we want to execute them. i believe the multigenerational poverty, the persistent poverty is what we need to go at right away. hat, to me, is who is voting -- hurting the most. if we can crack that code, all the other problems will be easier to solve. >> where are you going to get cooperation from democrats? speaker ryan: we're going to test it everywhere. i would like fixing the poverty cliff is something we can all gree on.
take someone's benefits, they will have benefit cut offs that dis-incentivize -- taking the next step into the workforce. and the challenge is you can't create a ington and universal formula to make and created or formula to make sure that work always -- we are a bigger, diverse country with more states, it is harder to do that here. i really do believe that we need to get more local control involved so that we can customize benefits to a person's particular needs. we think we can come up with a better mousetrap on the way benefits need to be structured but everyone has a slightly different problem, a slightly different benefit mix. i think you need to go more for benefit customization. i would like to think we can get consensus on breaking up the poverty monopoly. >> is there consensus this trap exists? speaker ryan: yes. i think a lot of us agree on
this. it is a good way of helping pull people into the workforce and smoothing the benefit cliff. i would like to think we can get consensus from moving it from an end of the year lump some to getting a embedded in the paycheck. there are a lot of details involved in that but that is something i think we can get consensus on. i would also like to think because if you look at success and our communities, where we have broken up the poverty monopoly, not just being the welfare agency distributing benefits, seeing people as a line item on a spreadsheet, but involving and empowering other groups, whether salvation army, catholic charities, america works, social services, whoever -- to be the actual distributor of benefits and the ones to have the navigator -- fort worth has a really good program on this where they actually -- they caught rep. brown:, they tried to come up with a benefit customization to work with a person to get them from where they are and where they need to
be and where they want to go. you have to break up the welfare monopoly to get that ynamic writ large. >> essentially you are talking about energizing civil society and creating a way for government to work with that. how does that happen? speaker ryan: right now it is in spite of each other. the whole concept of wraparound benefits that the civil society sector is working on -- government is kind of doing this in its separate and distinct and counterproductive, so we need to wraparound and try to fix this. imagine if we did not have to think like that. >> how do you not think like that? speaker ryan: we have a specific solution for growth
which means getting things back o the states, but not -- i know everyone hates the word -- it is not a crude spending cut exercise, it is making sure these resources can be tailor-made and they must go to the purpose, they cannot be used to pad a budget or build a road. they must go towards their intended purpose. and we have to measure and test results. itzise a good program. we did these programs with the bush administration. beta tests of these ideas. i really think that is the solution here, which is give local officials the ability to consolidate, to combine, to test, allow multiple providers to compete for the person's business and treat them like a client will not like -- client, not some commodity, and test results.
>> by and large does this connective tissue exist in most places? speaker ryan: it is in lieu of it. civil society exists. in many places government pushes aside and ignores it. in some cases, this allows it to brief -- dis-allows it to reath. you have to have a growing economy. you have to have a growing economy to produce opportunities that you can help people recognize. >> if used it back from this and try to figure out what has and has not worked -- speaker ryan: it did work. it lowered child poverty rates more than any other reform we ad seen. 10-f is a $16.5 billion program. it's one program. there are 72 other programs that spend about $800 billion a
year. so, that reform, which was more local control, work requirements, time limits, which the work requirements ind of atrophied but it was one program that never got those reforms. that never got thoir principles injected into them. the system sort of took over those ideas and those principles and it's time for a new round of welfare reform. elfare reform 2.0. this should be seen as a civil society, expertise, you know, respecting exercise. and that to me is where this all ought to go. so you're saying the centrality is true of tanif. it's true now. >> but it has been displaced by
other programs. we call it the poverty track by stacking all these benefits on top of one another. u know, the highest tax rate is not warren buffet. it's the single mom who is getting $24,000 and lose 20 cents on the door. it would pay not to work. how do you get at that without -- it's hard to do that from shington with some new formula. i think those things can help. you need to be able to get results. we don't have all the ideas. there are people throughout who do have good ideas. let's see them. learn from them. push them. pest them. let's go get this -- i love the evidence based mindset is here. and the evidence based policy
notion is a 21st century creation based on data, based on evidence that is here to stay and let's see it through. and that to me is sort of the pper of all of this and test result and go with evidence and go with what works. we're not able to do that because of government. er is there some tension between, again, the working class poor so the traditional nonworking poor because it -- you sense some of that in the electorate this year that there was certain amount of resentment. you're basically driping a situation where things ought to be working on the same teacher. is there intentions. no one should try to try to explode it no matter who plays it it. and it's just wrong.
unfortunately, we have seen identity product as lot unfortunately in the last four years. this is not a zero-something game. some person's gain does not come out of growing that. and so i certainly don't see it that way. people may see it that way and we have to labor to make sure that that is not really sit. . and encouraging work and upper mobility is good for everyone and it's good for all of society. and the notion that i think we have to attack which i'm xcited of seeing and other things in the conference table. i think indirectly. as in society as reinforce
the governmenter's poll sficks. don't get involved. you're busy. it's two income earners in the household. they reinforce your ideas. if you pay your problem government will fix this. we need everybody's ideas and talent. we need to reintegrate the poor. all forms of poverty. there have been books written by this. bob writes how we're seg gating ourselves into various classes and groups. and if our politics trying to exploit that we're going in the wrong direction. our politics need to break down those barriers and seek policies that stop this gratification of society. and get back to this beautiful
idea of the melting poltpom. and the opportunity that's in front of us. >> i think it's fair to say that you and the house republican caucus are going feed this because of the work you dit over the last couple of years. >> what yires sense? >> i brought this up to me a deverage of times and he as well as unprompted. i think there's sbee -- use enthusiasm and flyers. to re she's meap and desire get on on this so i do believe that there is a big desire and a lot of guseyax for them. . >> well, congress, all bills start in the house and run through congress.
>> there's this other thing called the senate. just what i was going to ask about. so yeah, this is something that we -- i don't know if least are the right word. and we all planned on working on this. so as you move down that path, you know, i wornede how you deal with the -- there's a high term of getting this right. there's also the short turm. how do you reconcile those? >> transitions are heard. >> it's a good question. the sooner you can ack it, the better your going to be? . >> i think if we can get growth the economy that's important. growth to me is the initial shock that the system needs. i think the fastest for