Speaker Paul Ryan Discusses the Congressional Agenda CSPAN January 27, 2017 3:03pm-3:46pm EST
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we take you now to a liaison on a discussionfor with house speaker paul ryan. he will be taking part in this politico playbook discussion. now here to say a few words is nikki kristof, head of federal affairs at uber. thank you for joining us. >> thanks so much. next for having me. i lead government relations here for uber -- for uber here in washington. ande has been a parlor game d.c. of comparing the 2009 inauguration to this year's inauguration. i will not leave you in suspense. there were more uber rides this time. 2010. not exist until in the first five and a half years of our company's existence, we talked about a billion rides. we clocked our second aliens ride after the first month of 2016. today there are 700,000
americans driving on the uber platform. those drivers earned the united states $9 billion last year, and 5000 of those drivers are from the great state of wisconsin, from which ails our 54th speaker of the house, paul ryan. as he tells me, there is only one uber driver in janesville. so i have been given a task. thank you so much for having us. there is a lot to disagree about now, but one right thing we can agree about is it is a humdinger of a time to be here. we are thrilled to be a part of this conversation. thank you, anna and jake. [applause] without further at duke, we have the speaker of the house, paul ryan. thank you for joining us. [applause] jake: also chief fashion critic.
anna: before we get started, we just want to remind everyone to tweak your questions using hashtag #playbookinterview. we will track them on stage. i got back from philadelphia last night, where republicans were holding their annual retreat. you are pretty much fresh off. you had the vice president, you had peyton manning. we thought we were going to be busy. headline outbanner of the retreat? speaker ryan: we had a plan and agenda, and we are going to be big, we are going to be bold, and we are going to get it done. we asked the country for permission to solve big problems. we ran on a coherent agenda. now we have been given the trust by the country to get on with
solving those problems, and that's what this is about. we had lively conversations about how to fix these problems. where we come out of this is unity. unity among senate republicans of the white house. and not just a commitment to work together, but demonstrating we are working together to make sure we get this right. anna: you guys have a good story to tell. you have polls shows in trump's message is resonating, you are working well together. but then there are things like , the top aide to president trump, and he said, " the media should be embarrassed and humiliated and keep its mouth shut." spendwe are not going to too much time on this. speaker ryan: where did he say that, by the way? jake: to a media outlet, actually. [laughter] the media is the
opposition party. they still do not understand why donald trump is the president. represents theho american government. do you think it is appropriate? speaker ryan: i am not going to get into the tit-for-tat wage. i do believe as a conservative that, generally speaking, the media has over time had a bias against conservatism. usedhat's just what we are to dealing with. i'm used to it. all i really care about our results and getting things done. i'm not going to comment on these things. we want to get results and get things done. we have big problems in this country, but they are solvable problems. we think we've got very good solutions, and we have to perform. , congressy needs it has not been working like it should have. we have a broken government. we now have an opportunity to fix it. i am not interested in getting pulled off into distractions,
which will take us off our job of solving problems for the people who just sent us into congress and the white house. anna: but does it make your job harder when things like this, up? speaker ryan: not if i don't let it. [laughter] element ofnteresting the trump presidency is he has you pegged pretty well, i think. instances, he's in crowds of people and says, where is paul ryan? he's out writing legislation. he has you typecast. what is something you have trump took office that you did not know about him during the election? speaker ryan: i did not really know him before, so i am just more recently getting to know him. i think i met him once for 30 seconds in 2012. i shook his hand briefly after he got the nomination for maybe an hour or so in reince's office during the campaign, and that was it. we have gotten to know each
other quite well. he is a sincere man, a very smart, capable guy. he has a different style, we all know that. he is definitely going to be unconditional. but what i have enjoyed the past few weeks is he takes this very seriously. the awesomeealizes responsibility. i think he understands how big a deal it is. what i love about it is that he is convinced that he can be transformative, and he wants to deliver. the guy never stops working. he is just endless. you guys talk on the phone all the time. it's endless energy, and it's always about getting things done. this plan, about that plan, this policy proposal. his mind is always fixed on fixing the problems, delivering on his promises. heo really believe that appreciates the awesome responsibility, and i can tell he is so focused on getting big
results. i find that endearing and i find it encouraging. you talk about the awesome responsibility. some people brought up the fact that maybe he does not the awesome responsibility. after the election, he is calling the national park service and complaining about the crowd images. that gives a sign that maybe he does not understand -- thiser ryan: like i said, is going to be an unconditional presidency. he obviously has opinions on things, but is enthusiasm for getting things done -- what i have always disliked are people who are timid, who believe in something, but don't follow through. he is not that. he is not afraid of taking on big challenges in getting things done. the fact that we laid out --ically a 200 day plan mitch, kevin, the president, laidpence, and i basically
out this plan. we put out a 200 a agenda of the things we are trying to accomplish. it is ambitious because we have big problems to solve. the fact that we are so coordinated in getting this going is very exciting. and: talk about mike pence his role, something we talk a lot about. a former house member, you know him well. how integral do you think he is going to be? is you more in touch with you guys than trump? will he play that broker in terms of when the deals get done yeah cap speaker ryan: i have -- when the deals get done? speaker ryan: i have spent more time with these two that i have in the last eight years. i find them extremely engaging. mike is going to be a very strong vice president. strong, too, and so was dick cheney, but mike will be in that echelon of strong vice presidents. he is someone everybody knows, likes, and trusts.
he also understands the system, he understands the house extremely well. he was a governor. for instance, we are talking about how to do medicaid reform. brings a lote, he of expertise. i see mike pence as going to be -- aely impactful and vice hugely impactful vice president. you gave him in office, too. i will ask you later if you took it away from him. let's talk about this 200 day agenda. brought a presentation to the president of the white house, and you showed him what you wanted to do, and he presented it to the house and senate in philadelphia. tell us what the next 200 days are going to look like. speaker ryan: as you know, we have dates that matter, deadlines. obviously have april 28, the expiration of the current cr. that dictates something has to be done. we have to finish appropriations
there. i put in this plan with the dates of things we have to do, when we need to do them. we are putting to reconciliations in one fiscal year. that has never been done before. that will consume a lot of this time. and we have to respect the fact that the senate has a lot more to do with all the confirmations . we are anticipating the supreme think, thursday. jake: do you know who it is? speaker ryan: i don't. anna: have you given any recommendations? speaker ryan: we like the list, and from what i understand, that is what the is going to select from. of supreme a list court's, judges on lower courts. we have budgets that will tell you what the 200 days are going to look like and what your
priorities are. is tax reform. we see that coming out of the second budget. anna: you have a lot of things you are trying to do. talk real with us in terms of, withwould you be ok slipping into 2018? speaker ryan: the items in the two budgets cannot slip into 2018, because that's the way the system works. that means obamacare, we have to repeal this broken system and replace it with a better law. that has to get done. we see the same thing with tax reforms. that has to get done. in the budget, we want to repair the defense of sequester. .e call that the dca caps that has got to get done. those things all have deadlines. they cannot slip. other things that do not have such time sensitivity can slip, but we hope to get it all done. a januarypped out
through august strategy with the knowledge that we can fall back. say that they -- in thenomic issues early part of this year, we expected something from the white house on the border. that will be tended to early on. are going to see border security, beginning to rebuild our military, health care, and tax reform with the budget itself as the thing that cannot slip, because of the way the deadlines work area -- the way the deadlines work. jake: let's dig into the details. obamacare. you talked to many more members and we do, but from our conversations with the members on capitol hill, you guys have been beating the drum on obamacare for a long time, and now you've got the keys to the
car. i think people are beginning to feel like, oh my god. speaker ryan: it's a sobering moment, absolutely, because we get itresponsibility to right. we have to move quickly, but not at the expense of getting it right. we have to move quickly because we are at risk of a collapse. what i think people need to do is put this in perspective. doing the numbers off the top of my head, about 4% of the country are on the exchanges. those are collapsing. if those exchanges collapse, all of them .5 million people have nowhere to go -- if those millions collapse, 11.5 people have nowhere to go. obamacare did a lot of damage to the rest of the individual market. the individual market is in real trouble. we have to step in and basically -- we see this as a rescue operation, to bring relief in 2017 before a collapse occurs,
before we have more pullouts and premium increases. we anticipate, if we did not do anything, the five states with only one plan and the third of the counties that only have one plan, many of them would see no plans if we did nothing. we believe we should move with haste, but we also want to get it right. that's why we are talking about tax credits and health savings accounts, making sure those fit together and work right jake:. -- and work right. jake: do you think this could get done in 2017? speaker ryan: it has to get done in 2017. so i don't confuse people, the legislating has to get done in 2017, putting the policy in place will take time. jake: how long active speaker ryan: that's really -- how long? speaker ryan: that's really an hhs question. the have not confirmed brilliant young woman from indiana who is a medicaid specialist. i think the reforms can happen quickly.
i think we can subsidize the non-subsidy market quickly. that how long does it take to swap out the collapsing system for a better one? it is really a market question. it's not one we know the answer to, but if we delayed even more, it would be a bigger collapse. that's why we want to move quickly so the policy can be executed as quickly as possible. there is a lot of among house republicans. how's majority leader kevin mccarthy yesterday said he wants to repair obamacare. put it in context for us. speaker ryan: we want to repair the health care system. anna: he said repair obamacare. speaker ryan: he said the word repair, which raised a lot of eyebrows. we had a messaging session after that. people are being led to believe,
just because of frederick, that we are going to have a vote on people and on wednesday won't have health insurance. that's not the way it will happen. we will pass legislation to replace obamacare with a better system. we believe that we have to act very quickly because we have a collapse under way. yes, it is nerve-racking, because what is happening right now is nerve-racking. aamacare has become spectacular failure, and it will not work. if we did not in the election, win the presidency, -- election or presidency, hillary clinton and chuck schumer would be desperately trying to fix the mess in front of them. we are trying to fix it with something much better. if we get this right, which i ll, when there
is more competition, that brings down prices. that fixes a lot of problems. it fixes paycheck problems, workplace problems, the 40 hour workweek, fiscal problems. at the root cause of health inflation, you are reducing the debt in the out years. getting this right fixes a lot of problems in our families, communities, and fiscal balance sheets. that's why there is so much at stake. yesterday,cclintock i don't know if you saw this, but in the last six hours, several news outlets got a leaked recording of your -- speaker ryan: someone told me something about that. jake: we now know what happened. though, we had better be sure that we are prepared to live with the market we create with repeal. it is going to be called trump care. republicans will loan that lock stock and barrel, and they will be judged in the election.
if you remember, democrats took a long time, it won't against an election, and they got in the minority. how you talk about this for months and months, and all of a sudden you are at an election with a big political issue on your hands? speaker ryan: we have the responsibility to work for the people who put us in office. the people of wisconsin did not ask me to come to d.c. to point fingers and watch things blow up and say the democrats did it. we have a moral obligation to fix this problem. that's the oath we take. the constitution, to fight for the people we represent. this is a fiasco that needs to be fixed. we had a plan, we ran on all of 2016. that is what we are working on as we implement the solutions. that's why i keep saying concurrently, everybody has a different language, we plan on moving these things together so it is not just repeal land down the road we get to replace, it is repeal and replace at the
same time. been some divide among republicans, including trump, on how they talk about health care law and whether it should ensure everyone. you want to provide universal access. donald trump says you will you cover everyone? speaker ryan: universal access -- donald trump says he will cover everyone. you will cover everyone. speaker ryan: universal access is how we see it. we don't believe in the mandate. believe all, i don't the mandate is constitutional, but we don't believe in mandating this. we believe in giving everybody the resources for buying affordable health care coverage. if you choose not to do that, we are not going to have the government make you do something. we see it differently, and we want to make sure that everybody has the choice and the resources to make the choice to buy affordable coverage.
let's move onto another thing you guys say you are going to do, tax reform, which you wednesdayur speech on that tax reform means a broader base, lower rates, and upset lobbyists. speaker ryan: so that links, too. -- leaked, too. anna: basically an open meeting. speaker ryan: that is right. jake: this is going to impact people across the country. people want to know, is their mortgage debt reduction going away -- mortgage deduction going away? any tax plan is going to have lower rates, a broader base, and an upset lobby. i was a chairman of the ways and means committee. i watched the system. they put in specific provisions that benefit a narrow group of interests. you have toans is raise taxes on everybody else
more to make up for that. we have a tax code that basically says to all those people in america, send your money to washington, and if you engage in behavior that we specifically approved, we will let you keep some of it. that is killing our economy, strangling growth, putting us in the back of the pack internationally. we have to fix this. the people who lose a narrow part of specialized interest are going to fight hard to keep that. but it is at the expense of the general welfare of this country that we have these things. that's why i keep telling her members, you've got to put the chin strap on, the shoulder pads, and we've got to do this for the people we represent. anna: you said you want to pay her tax reform with infrastructure. is that still the plan? speaker ryan: that is what we were working on before. our thinking is to put the physical space, meaning, how do we pay for infrastructure in that fiscal budget?
i would have infrastructure bill that would not be in the tax reform bill. that's something we did before when we worked on the highway bill with chuck and went a different route. yesterday -- what we are seeing in washington these days must be difficult for you, because yesterday started with donald trump saying it your border, seeming to back adjustment, which means the government taxes imports instead , essentially how it hours,up. within several his press secretary reversed that and said, well, that's just one way. speaker ryan: i can't remember the exact words he used. our blueprint off which we wrote last year and we are perfecting in the house.
this is among the options we are looking at. we are having lots of conversations on tax reform. but just to clear up what is a border tax and what is border adjustability, remember one thing. worst tax code in the industrialized world with respect to businesses in job growth. this tax code basically incentivizes businesses to go overseas, to make things overseas or to become foreign companies, because of how bad our tax code is. countries because they have consumption-based taxes, border and just their taxes. if they make something in their country and they are going to export it, let's say this coffee making this in wisconsin, i won't tax it. if they import something, a coffee mug, they tax it. 160 countries do this. we don't. we do the opposite. if we make something in america
and send it overseas, we tax it here, and and it goes into their country they tax it again. -- we tax it again. mug, say we make a coffee we tax it here, and it goes to japan. it is taxed twice. they may game of, they send it mug,erica -- they make a we don't tax it, and it competes against our cups domestically. twice, taxed twice. we are backwards. it's not a trade policy, it is a tax policy. because we have a big trade deficit -- i know you want me to shut up jake:. jake: no, i'm waiting. speaker ryan: the trade deficit gives us a trillion dollars, give or take, to lower our taxes. deficits we had a trade with will help us finance. systemhelp get our tax on par with the rest of the world so we are not shooting
ourselves in the foot area -- shooting ourselves in the foot. it is basically a tax on america that we are removing. jake: i could not keep track. it's like the ball under the cup thing. toterday, donald trump tried position this as him going after mexico. that's not true? speaker ryan: it's an elegant solution to, if you want money coming in from mexico to pay for anything, like a wall -- jake: we will get to that. speaker ryan: because we have a trade deficit with a mortar attacks, you will get revenues coming in from mexico, coming in from every country we have a trade deficit, because imports exceed exports. that means revenues come into this country from that, and that goes into our tax plan. doesn't this just mean everyone raises prices? speaker ryan: i can go into an exchange rate argument. jake: let's not, actually. speaker ryan: but i think
currency is adjusted. we have always seen this. by the way, a reporter's sell and other countries, walmart, for example, all over the world, they are not losing, because they are another border adjustable countries. putting tariffs on the top of the country. after we do this, there is no reason to leave this country as a manufacturer. there is no reason to invert. there is no reason to be taken over by a foreign country -- company. there is no reason to outsource their manufacturing, and you get the same touch, better tax code, where our tax code be better than the rest of the world. in 1986, we started tax reform, and it triggered a great economic growth in this country, in this world. the rest of the world reformed their tax codes. now we have the worst tax code, and we think this leapfrogs the rest of the world to put us in a superior tax system which will
give us faster economic growth, or manufacturing, more jobs. anna: one of the things i wanted to ask you about, you bring up walmart and other companies who are talking to donald trump, how youth picking winners and losers . that has not been the policy of going after individual companies and where their manufacturing and jobs are doing. is that -- how do you respond to that? speaker ryan: i don't. [laughter] ? na: are you concerned i, every day, here from people concerned about the fact that your stock price of lockheed martin is down 5%. heardr ryan: i have not from companies. i have focused on results. the way i see this and the way most republicans see it is our job is to maximize conditions for economic growth, make america the best possible place to work, save, and grow a company. if we get more jobs, economic growth and economic activity,
that is a lot more successful and effective than doing one offs and individuals. the president feels strongly about making a difference wherever he can whenever he can. he has got a lot of energy and he is doing it. our job is legislators is to deliver the results people sent us here to achieve. jake: let's talk about this wall for a second. you and republicans going back to 2009, 2010 have insisted on offsetting all sorts of spending. we don't know if mexico is going to pay. we don't know what that is going to look like. how are you comfortable spending $14 billion in unpaid for spending without some sort of mechanism to ensure it gets offset? speaker ryan: we see this as a national security priority, crisis proportions with respect to opioids, drugs, this poor border. this is a national security issue. we see this supplemental coming
from the administration defense and border. with respect to that, mulvaney has to get in office and start working on office. i am hoping sooner than later. maybe in the first quarter we can get this done. it is getting them up and running so this is supplemental. this is something we want to get on right away. we do believe this is urgent. we do believe this is one of the most urgent promises the president made running process office. it is a promise he will keep, and we will help them keep it. anna: how are you sure mexico will pay? speaker ryan: that is what yesterday was all about. there are a medley of options on getting revenue from another country to offset things like this. jake: should mexico pay? speaker ryan: that is not the point. anna: it kind of is. jake: why should mexico pay for it? [laughter] [speaking simultaneously] but should mexico
favorite? why should mexico pay for a wall that we build? speaker ryan: look, i am not -- no offense, but i don't want to get in the wedges. i will try and get things done, and i do believe we should have this. i voted for this in 2006 i think you are did, chuck schumer booted for this. it never got done. this is why pr upset. we -- why we are upset. we say things that don't get them done. this congress is about getting things done, restoring the trust with the country. i will not get into quickly about whether they should or should not pay for it. we set we would do it, now we have to deliver. anna: one of the things there has not been much about is criminal justice reform. toublicans and democrats try make that happened last year. do you think that is something you could get done in 2017? speaker ryan: yes, it is my
goal. i spoke with the chairman, a number of democrats, he had 11 build out of the committee. out.put a load those bills are pretty much ready to go. they will have to remark up and send them through the floor again. jeff sessions was on this. i think we have got to get darker and the justice department for this. i think booker and the lead guys in the senate, this is something i think is a long time in coming, something we should do, one of the things i want to get done in 2017. jake: does the renewed torture talk alarm you? speaker ryan: the president says things like this. the president says things like this, and i think you and i and everyone has got to get used to that. jake: but these are like -- speaker ryan: he we said we will
not change the law on torture. it is illegal and remain being illegal. another issue that popped up today, john mccain said, if the president lists sanctions on russia, he will make sure the congress codifies those things into law. sanctionsan: i think are overdue. obama was late putting them in place, that they should stay. jake: i am trying to be equitable. go ahead. anna: i want to ask you -- jake: you can talk about border tax. [speaking simultaneously] [laughter] anna: not speaking about russia, but i do want to ask you about hollins -- foreign policy stuff. your colleague, a democrat from hawaii, she went to syria and met with assad. is that right? speaker ryan: i would not advise it. it was not a sanctioned trip. i did not know about it until
after it happened. anna: normally you are informed. speaker ryan: yes, and if it is a coda, we have to sign off on it. if it is an approved trip, you have to get approval you and for foundation trips, so that was not an official trip or a sanctioned trip. bashar al-assad is a butcher. the man is committing genocide against his own people. he should go. period. anna: should there be retribution against -- speaker ryan: i don't know about that. i am going to reserve judgment on those things. jake: is she a friend of yours? speaker ryan: yes. but just because she is a friend -- jake: i know. i think we can take one out of the danger. we will open questions to the audience. there are 500 people, but we will have two questions. yes, sir. anna: she will come get a microphone for you.
just identify yourself. kami bert.is i am from pakistan. my question is about our president signing so many executive orders. i am sure that when newt gingrich became speaker, he didn't want to see anything that was not relevant with his agenda, but people believed newt gingrich because he is a brilliant man. people don't believe that our current president -- he is a kind of joke. what would you say that make people to believe that trump means business? jake: thank you. speaker ryan: yes, newt gingrich is a brainy man. [laughter] speaker ryan: he will let you know. he is on doing a lot of damage that has been done by the lost -- last administration. we believe president obama
exceeded his powers in many directions and put in place bad policies. what is happening here is, he is undoing. last year he said i have got a phone and a pen. that works with ways. now it is the other way. this president is on doing harmful, damaging regulations and executive orders done by the last administration. the purpose of doing these things is to restore law and order. it is to make sure we can enforce our borders. we know that we have people trying to infiltrate the refugee population among isis. that is a real problem. we have to deal with that. we have got a real regulatory roadblock on business and job creation. so he is cleaning up a lot about that. this is a lot about jobs and national security. the phone and the pen is being used to put it back in the proper place. anna: i want to ask you a follow-up on that. in terms of talking to business say people can go
either way, obama went too far, others not. do you think this is a moment for serious regulatory reform? speaker ryan: that is part of the 200 day plan, fixing the administrative procedures act with the chevron deference. one of our smarter legal guys is a congressman from texas, u.s. attorney, has a bill we are using to change chevron, which is actually giving agencies so much power. we are trying to get that back so that when he is asking about is, let's get rid of all of the excessive rulemaking, abuse of the executive orders. that is what president trump is doing now. we want to follow that up with resuscitation of the article one hours so your elected representatives as the constitution calls for are the ones writing the law, not unelected bureaucrats. that is the next wave of reform
after we are done with this batch. legislatively it means congressional reviews. we start wednesday. we have got a number in the qs. that is also a calendar issue. there are only so many days you can do these we will do our site of that, which is congress, while the president rescinds what he can. and we go back to a regulatory reform platform to restore article one platforms. jake: you have a lot of stuff to do and not a lot of time. but on task. you were at the health all the dinner. the president may or may not be, we don't know. what are those events -- you like these events? speaker ryan: only when i do. my family is here. we are going because of the retreat. it is actually a funny dinner. it is just a big comedy thing. but i don't go to any of these other dinners. jake: your love for janesville
is well-documented. speaker ryan, we are out of time. thank you for taking the time in joining us for what has been a very busy week. thank you to cooper -- to uber for making this possible, and all of you in the audience and livestream, please follow politico live and on social media for updates on future playbook events. have a great evening. speaker ryan: thanks, you two. ♪ [applause] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org]
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