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prejudge these cases and be an independent spirit when i get on the high court. host: we hope you two into our phone conversation with leonard leo from the federalist society. because of the nga coverage today, as special time for newsmakers. 12:00 p.m. eastern time. airing later today on c-span radio. antle's politics editor for the washington examiner. we heard the comment from kellyanne conway that cpac is now tpac. is it? been: it's really fascinating to watch the evolution of donald trump's relationship with cpac. in 2011, cpacr was the scene of one of his first major political speeches.
as as really his debut political figure and he mentioned that as president in his speech at cpac this week. didn't do very well in the cpac straw poll last year. he was unpopular with a lot of conservative activists. ted cruz really was the guy for a lot of these people. this year very much a different story. president trump was very well received at cpac. the ballroom was packed when he spoke. it was really packed to the rafters. the crowd was very energized. his speech went over pretty well. he saw a sea of red have everywhere-- hats throughout the event. that wasn't always something that looked like it was necessary going to be the case. you wrote this past week, the right was supposed to be a three-legged stool of economic,
social and national security conservatism. president trump appeared to be sawing off the first two legs. how so? really have a't history of social conservative activism. he had nothing in his past. he's not a particularly devout man. obviously he has his own personal history. he has been a tabloid celebrity, a reality tv star. nothing in his past indicated he was much of a social conservative. in terms of economics, his driving issue was trade, on which he is more protectionist than the post-reagan conservative free trade consensus. he has never really been a limited government guy. think one of the reasons he did go over well at cpac is that as president he has in many ways in a fairly conventionally conservative president including
a lot of these social and economic issues. every time he has had to engage on these things his executive orders, his appointments have been fairly conservative. obviously vice president mike pence is very much a creature of the conservative movement even if president trump is not. pleased really conservatives who were a little skeptical of trump and it has made people who were more conservative and already supportive of the president feel little bit vindicated that he didn't turn out the way they never trump conservatives said he would. host: this is a cover story. the speech tuesday evening before a joint session of congress. the president's first address promises to be dramatic theater for all involved. what do you think his reception will be among congressional democrats and what will congressional republicans be looking for? guest: congressional democrats
there may be a little bit of a competition to see who can do the most effective thing to stand out and protest president trump. granted i think they will want to be careful to not appear to disrespect the office. surprised if there is a joe wilson of the left who shouts something. i think he will see vast theions of the speech for democrats aren't standing up and applauding. i think the democratic base really is looking for democrats to stand up to the president. i think many congressional democrats are going to try to use this as an opportunity to do so. host: we will have live coverage of the president's speech tuesday evening. also live on c-span radio and
streamed on the web at c-span.org. check out the free c-span radio app. market is joining us from withornia, republican line james antle of the washington examiner. good morning. good morning c-span and thank you for all of your work as always. --there such a thing in anymore as an fdr republican? someone who might be pro-life but is also for all the things that fdr was? is that around anymore? guest: i think yes. were prettye voters key in the states that put president trump over the top. still have it in michigan, wisconsin. some people who
would identify as republicans. others who still identify as democrats or independents who may not be especially economically conservative but they are socially conservative. they are pro-life. they are pro-gun. they still believe in a generous social safety net. to some extent president trump was more successful in reaching those kinds of voters that mitt romney and john mccain. even george w. bush. host: let me ask you about hollywood. what do you expect tonight with the oscars? guest: i think even more so than with congressional democrats it will be a competition to needle trump. to protest the president. i think with congressional democrats it will be somewhat constrained by the need to
maintain a certain decorum. hollywood is going to feel no such constraint. it's because the president clearly watches a lot of this type of programming. president bush was probably in bed by the time all of this stuff was on the air. the president will see these things. he may react to them via twitter. i think you are going to see a lot of protesting. you are going to see a lot of jokes at the president's expense. you are going to see some winners. resistancewith the they believe the president is persecuting. if a more political than normal program. host: bruce is joining us from baltimore. caller: good morning. i just cannot get over the kind of hate the democrats and
progressives -- i used to be a democrat for decades. registered independent. now i'm a republican because the democrats have become the party misinformation, of lies, of hate. it's just unbelievable. and hollywood, my goodness gracious. i live in baltimore. one of the river -- main reasons i voted for donald trump besides being called a deplorable racist or sexist because i would support donald trump, the main issue in baltimore is illegal immigration. they tend to use the word thatrant or the assumption he hates immigrants are muslims. he doesn't. it's about following the law. it's ridiculous what's going on in baltimore. the representation. some of the council members. we had a councilmember that is always referring to everybody as
-- this is unbelievable. white privilege, mr. dorsey. he's completely out of control. host: let's get a response. guest: immigration, border security, clearly key issues for trunk during the campaign. hasink the president succeeded in creating a certain amount of solidarity among his supporters. a lot of his supporters feel they are marginalized in the press, and pop culture, in entertainment and maybe even in politics. president trump has identified himself as someone who stands with them and he has been very , when they are saying negative things about me they are also sing the if things about you. our guest, james antle, is
the politics editor of the washington examiner. is this conservativism's future? ago theew years conventional wisdom was that conservatives were living in what you called a libertarian moment well trump is less of a proponent of constitutionally limited government many conservatives have embraced trump because he won. that does not mean they have embraced his more distinctly compassed fuse. trumpist views. half toe did creative electoral votes that is viable for republicans without solving the parties problems with minority and millennial voters. because he succeeded in that area it is something potentially other republicans will be able to replicate. it's going to be a model that
some people are going to try to follow. politics winning is everything and a lot of republicans have been drawn to trump because he has been successful politically. time, thee president's desire to make the republican party a worker's party. some of his views on trade, immigration. these are things on which republicans are divided. the president is taking a stance on the issues that on the opposite side of that republican divide of what the last republican president did. on the republican line. good morning. caller: good morning. the democratic party in my opinion is anti-america. they want to let everyone into this country, but america is not a human land bill. it's a sovereign nation. republicans follow the
constitution and democrats want to destroy it. and that's all i have to say. guest: i think an interesting comment made by one of president , stephenenior aides miller. something that had been lost in american political discourse is the idea of america as a homeland. as a place where people live as their home. i think if you are going to talk about where the president is a little bit of an innovator, his conservatism is much less totract and much more tied concrete living nationalism than what we have seen in the recent past in the post-reagan republican party. 's next from massachusetts. caller: good morning. i'm calling to say that the one good thing that has come out of
all of this is that we are actually seeing how our government works with it the checks and balances. so happy. i think it's wonderful for young people to see that. donald trump the presidency seriously. i don't think he's a horrible man, but i think it's just another one of his like building a casino. i think we are in trouble with that. i think we will succeed with our democrat, independents and republicans that are on the side of our -- the way our constitution works. the way that checks and balances have been working. i've been watching it. i'm proud of my country. i think we will overcome this. really good a education how our government does work. thank you. host: what would you say to janice? hast: the president
encouraged a lot of civic engagement both among the people who support him and the people who oppose him. i noticed a lot of people, my friends growing up who are talking a lot about politics on facebook and other places who never really seriously followed politics before. they wouldn't have been so outspoken about what their political views are in mixed company. now they are very engaged. there are very active. unfortunately they are very angry in a way that may not make the civic engagement as productive as it could be. , it's there.ime president trump has elicited quite a response from people who oppose him. host: i want to follow up on a story we read in the first half hour. isgressman darrell issa
calling for an independent saying we need to find out if russia had any role in the election directly or indirectly. he added that senator jeff sessions is a friend of mine, he cannot be that person investigating russia's ties to the u.s. election last year. guest: congressman issa had a hey difficult reelection at is likely to face a difficult one in 2018. that has a big issue the potential to drive a wedge in the republican party depending on how bad the facts get. right now we don't have a lot of facts. at least with regard to what degree of connection there might have been between any russian agents in the trunk campaign. a lot of it is still speculation and innuendo. get bad enough,
there are enough republicans who are concerned about it that i think it could become a real political problem. host: mike in harrisburg, pennsylvania. independent line. we are talking with james antle of the washington examiner. caller: good morning. i don't know where to start. why aren't trump supporters up in arms about consumers and taxpayers paying for this wall instead of mexico paying for this wall? number two, on the immigration front. i saw in interview with four farmers from southern california yesterday all wringing their hands and worried about who with trump getting rid of all these so-called -- i don't know illegal immigrants, they were worried to death that they don't have anybody to work in their field and pick their strawberries. host: thank you, mike. guest: the wall was obviously a
really big part of the president's campaign. it is clear they are going to construct one. the idea of mexico paying for the wall was always controversial. it's going to be interesting to argue they are delivering on that. one idea that is on the table is taxing remittances. they are sent from the united states back to mexico. that is indirectly a way of getting mexico to pay for the wall. because the mexican economy is so dependent on those remittances perhaps they can create some kind of negotiating leverage. obviously politically in mexico it would be very difficult to get the mexican government to want to be seen as knuckling under president trump on that issue. the question is, there are some trump supporters upu wall as more of a metaphorical concept.
it really is more of a symbol of the president's commitment to the idea that we have a border and border integrity is essential to being a country, to being a nationstate. there are some trump voters who really wanted that to be a literal campaign promise that he fulfilled and others just view it as a symbol to his commitment to enforcing the border. is the author of the book devouring freedom: can big government ever be stopped? theident trump speaking at cpac conference on friday. here is a portion. onthe gop will be from now the party also of the american worker. [applause]
we haven't been as a group given credit for this. if you look at how much bigger our party has gotten during this , during the early days when we had 17 people running. millions and millions of people were joining. i want to say it was because of me but it was. [laughter] [applause] have an amazing, strong powerful party. that truly does want to see america be great again and it will see it and it's going to see it a lot sooner than you think. a lot sooner than you think. [applause] to donors ornswer lobbyists or special interests. we will serve the citizens of the united states of america. believe me. [applause]
global cooperation, dealing with other countries, getting along with other countries is good. it's very important. there is no such thing as a global anthem. or a globalurrency flag. this is the united states of america that i'm representing. i'm not representing the globe. [applause] i'm representing your country. host: james antle of the washington examiner. you were inside the room in national harbor. when people were leaving what were they talking about? guest: people were talking about -- they were excited to have a republican in the white house again. and they were excited because a lot of the initial moves president trump has made did really satisfy the conservative base. think the one thing people thought was a real omission from the speech was he didn't talk about neil gorsuch.
the nomination of a solid conservative to succeed antonin scalia on the supreme court is something conservatives are very happy about. he didn't really talk about it. the president is a very discursive speaker, obviously. one of his talents as a speaker is establishing an emotional connection with the audience especially when he speaks to a friendly audience. he really feeds off of the energy of friendly crowds. host: leonard leo is our guest on newsmakers. we will talk about the nomination of neil gorsuch. cincinnati, democrats line. good morning. caller: good morning. i was just sitting here thinking about the president. there are two things i'm a little surprised you're just has not set up -- your guest has not
said a word about. there is and a public hospital in all of northern kentucky. public hospital to us and you should know this because you went to osu, is university of louisville. they depend on cincinnati. one of the things i know john , ohio isld mr. trump not going to pay for kentucky. how do you replace things that are not there? i want to thank mr. trump for of hasslinge gift the son of muhammad ali jr.. he has awakened a monster. i'm just a little surprised, young man, you haven't even talked about it. it's one of the things a lot of congressional republicans want to hear from the president when he speaks. they want a little bit more direction on what his vision is
for repealing and replacing obamacare. the republicans are finally in a political position to do that. they are realizing some of the difficulties involved in doing that. obamacare has created both winners and losers. because it has created losers there has remained a constituency for repeal that has been very strong. realhat repeal is a political possibility and not simply symbolic gesture, you are hearing more from people who are the winners under obamacare. you have to think more about what's going to happen. will there be coverage disruptions? what are you going to do about the medicaid expansion which has benefited a lot of people in historically republican states. ohio governor john kasich ended up being a pretty big component of medicaid expansion over the objection of conservatives even in the ohio state legislature it's a really dicey political
issue. it has united republicans. when you get down to the details there are still a lot of disagreements about what a replacement would look like. host: we get more details this week from house eager paul ryan. joining us from manchester, england. watching on bbc parliament channel. go ahead. promisedhe president to fight radical islam. main issues is to declare the muslim brotherhood who is the spearhead of radical islam in the world which is well-established in the united states, why not declare them as a terrorist organization? guest: there has actually been some talk of doing that. there is an element of the trump administration that is very concerned about that >.
the broader focus has been on their travel ban and their immigration executive order which i think they were perhaps surprised at the political backlash that elicited. it was something they probably -- they definitely rammed through a little too quickly without offering a rationale to the public. going to really shape some of their approach going forward. i don't think the president is afraid of the perceived as being politically incorrect. i do think they may tread a little bit more gingerly when they try to engage on these issues based on the reaction they got. ask: i just want to quickly you about new jersey and virginia governors races. there's also going to be a specialf house elections including in new
jersey. with the new party chair elected yesterday, tom perez, but are you seeing this year for both parties? guest: virginia is obviously going to be a real fight. virginia is going to be a real fight. that is going to be the more competitive gubernatorial election. republicans hope they can retake it. when you look at some of these special elections, for tom price, is district. when you look at the gubernatorial elections, a lot of times will read a lot into those results about what will happen in 2018 and beyond. apart from just wanted to windows races, it would be good for democrats to windows races races to-- win those frame this as retaking the country, donald trump. if republicans win, it will be seen as an endorsement of president trump. in those cases there will be a lot of local issues that will be more important in why the races
go the way they do. host: the political editor for the washington examiner. thank you for stopping by. of treatsing a couple on our sets. we are working on our normal sets. we will be back this week. worry. it is a temporary set of today and tomorrow. we're back in a midweek upstairs. we have got a lot of tweets in the last hour or so. you are watching "washington journal." alternative programs for underachieving students. heather vogell of propublica will be joining us. countryman, not from the state department, let go from the -- diplomat from the state .epartment, let go how foreign policy is shipping up under the trump
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