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tv   Washington Journal Representative Tom Garrett R-VA  CSPAN  March 16, 2017 8:15am-8:40am EDT

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sunday night on "afterwords." the history and science behind body fat in the book "the secret life of fat." she is interviewed by the medical reporter for "the new york times." >> your brain sets what your weight is. does it change as you get older? >> it is almost a force of nature that we seem to accumulate more fat, a great many of us. , the fat busting hormones decline with age. testosterone levels decline with age. in both women and men, we have less of it as we age. you can't really eat what you did when you were 22. that big plate of food will make you fat as you get older. it is not just the level, it is
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a distribution affected, as well. >> sunday night at 9:00 p.m. eastern on after words." >> "washington journal" continues. host: our first guest of the morning, representative tom garrett from virginia. he is a member of the freedom caucus. good morning to you. guest: good morning. and also a member of the educational workforce committee. host: on top of the things, a freshman. tell us how you got here. guest: the reason i'm on three we areees is because trying to find the best opportunity we can find to give back with whatever talent and opportunities present themselves. host: a little bit about your background? guest: military veteran. after that, went to law school, served as a prosecutor, state, federal, local. host: according to "the
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washington post," one of the things you are encountering is the repeal and replacement bill from the republicans, "the washington post" saying that you are one of the republicans who have questions about this. guest: at least for off the top of my head. there are some good things. the fact that we can drop the deficit by a third of $1 trillion. the fact that we are starting to expand opportunities toward hsa's. two reservations are that we are withding bad behavior medicaid expansion and penalizing 19 states that stand firm. the second thing is that the with the tax credits are structured, this would be the largest entitlement program ever passed under a republican president or republican congress. our gdp does not equal our national debt, so we need to be looking at long-term sustainability in relation to spending habits.
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we criticized speaker pelosi saying, how can you pass a bill without the length of it? right now, the timeline has us doing the exact same thing. the goal is not to get this done, the goal is to get this done right. host: we heard president trump say it and the house speaker saying that changes can be made and could be tailored to satis skeptics, do you think that might happen? guest: i'm sure it will happen. we are hearing particularly good messages from the white house. trump isresident trying to ensure that the changes we make our good changes that drive toward affordability, market-based solutions, allow individuals freedom of choice will not breaking the bank. i've never started a negotiation or your opening was where you finish. if it were all about scoring political points, the easy place
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republicanslet the continue to let the wheels come off the obamacare disaster. we want to get this done right. we want to get it done in a way that is fiscally sustainable. host: what do you have to see to get your support? guest: i want to see something that does not the states that want more federal largess. i want to see something not done on incentivizing good behavior. we cannot treat health care like if your marketplace. it is not sneakers. it is a need, not a want. to the extent we can let the market work, we need to do that. we've passed a stand-alone bill, a small bill, the health care accessibility act. that came out last week. to repeal thel mccarran ferguson trust exemption. that is a good idea. these sorts of things will drive prices down.
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specificallybill to cover the pre-existing pools, how do we do that? not just fors are republicans, they are for america and sometimes those solutions take time. host: representative tom garrett, republican from virginia. he is here to talk to you. (202) 748-8000, democrats. (202) 748-8001, republicans. (202) 748-8002, independents. our first collar. james. caller: good morning sir. i wanted to make a little tape -- statement about the obamacare. it took him seven years to nibble around the edges and chew like little rat until they came up with it. you do every little nitpicky
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thing, just like picking on scabs, but that is typically republican, federalist. y'all, you are 1200 lawyers, eight years, you pick and you pick and you pick and you find every little thing you your smiling face. you feel guilty in your heart, don't you? guest: is that a question? host: you can respond as you wish. i don't feel guilty. the beauty of america is that you cannot know how many members of congress that you are, but you can get on the phone and call and criticize members of congress. god bless this man for being engaged in the process. i think that is awesome. we reached different conclusions with the same information. host: houston, texas, republican line. al, you are on. aller: hi, i'm not
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republican, sorry, but just one quick thing. i would like to know why the word entitlement keeps being used for health care. it is not entitlement to want good health. preventative health care is not entitlement. people are not getting the sick and cosmetic surgery, that is not what we are talking about. we are talking about peace of mind to get health care when you walk into a hospital and not getting treated poorly because you don't have the right card or the right insurance and it is just ridiculous that the republicans with jason chaffetz saying it is about an iphone and then this other guy, he was talking about in 2009, we had the best health care in the world until obamacare came a while. back in 2009, people were saying , you can always go to the emergency room and i've heard
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people say that now. the problem is the emergency room is not health care. health care is cradle-to-grave health. and promoting preventative health. guest: actually, there is a lot of agreement here. the word entitlement is used based on how the care is delivered. in senting good behavior and that are subsidizing it on the nackground, it is not a entitlement. health care is also about preventative health care. ultimately, what we are looking insofar asa farce what obamacare does. we talk about the affordable care. the paradigm should be coverage. we see deductibles skyrocket, premiums skyrocket, if you need
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care and you can't pay your deductible, you have coverage, but you don't have care, so if we don't bend the cost curve down, you will have it to paper that says you are insured, but you will not have access to care. we need to bend the cost curve down some people can take advantage of the health care that exists. i think he makes good points about what health care is. if you get something regardless of whether you use it or on the basis of what you do so that you may use it. it is a cart-horse, horse-cart argument. host: here is bob in massachusetts on the independent line. caller: hello. how are you guys doing today? guest: doing well, bob. caller: what i would like to say is that our health care system, because doctors can charge so much, the model used to be do not harm. what is the model now? we've done nothing.
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you cannot charge a person an entire year's income for a five minute visit. .he epipen whose unscrupulous idea was it to jack up that price? can get any price you want for a drug if you make a drug, you can charge a stupid amount and say that it costs you all this in research when it doesn't. if you chase the money down to where it ends up coming you find out who is making all the cash and how they are making it. those questions i would be happy to hear about. guest: i think bob is spot on. we understand there is a research and development period. the epipen is a wonderful example on cost. it is really a pox upon both houses. i will be held accountable as time goes by and we should be. as we look at things like mccarran-ferguson which creates monopolies and oligarchies in
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health care, if you look at the voting history, it was thatlicans and democrats did not want to lose the support of big health care. when you see the repeal of mccarran, ferguson, that was a bill we were vocal on early on, that is something that is getting bipartisan support. it was something we championed we took some flak for and ond to turn our backs corporate interested money and do what is right to turn the cost -- cost curve down. fda drug reform is a great example and i think you are seeing a lot of that in the made byve puzzles republicans, which you did not see with the aca, where president obama essentially co-opted big insurance by guaranteeing ever increasingly large slices of the pie. that did not work and is not going to work. we need to break that market
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subsidy down. in then analysis piece "new york times" that takes a look at the aca. this -- rs add several recent analyses argue that the recent increase was a market correction and that a smoother market will follow in the years ahead. guest: if the market keeps correcting like this, somebody -- we will not have a market. someone needs to send that editorial to arizona weather will be no providers if the market keeps correcting. it is an analysis piece. guest: ultimately, it depends upon who is doing the analysis, doesn't it? that all sounds well and good in
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the encapsulated bubble that is the "new york times." when you get out to arizona, the reality on the ground is different. we will have locality after locality where there are no providers. i was speaking to a doctor the other day who said we can't get rid of the aca, we have to keep the aca. ike where it hurt us to whether or not she to patients on the aca. , the reimbursements are not good enough. that is hypocrisy writ large. , there are a lot of people with coverage of can't get care because they can't pay the deductible. host: this is representative tom garrett joining us, freshman, first time on this program, the michigan -- carol in michigan on the democrats line. caller: my name is carol williams. i'm a democrat, republican, and independent. all in want to say is how can
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filthy rich people in the white house, how can they even feel the pain of the poor person at the bottom? you can't feel the pain. you don't care because your kids are being taken care of, you are being taken care of, but nobody cares about the person -- how can you make decisions about poor people when you are not here? let everybody have health insurance. please. it is a man i know went to the doctor, had not been to the when they15 years, had the aca, he went to the doctor, he got his teeth cleaned, he got things done, guess what? he felt more better. all i'm saying, all of you all, , whatever is dri right. guest: i'm going to adopt
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carroll's platform. i think she makes some good points. i do think that the white house tends to attract successful people. i think president obama's net worth when he entered the white house was $3.4 million, it was over $12 million when he left. i think it has probably doubled in two more months. he is a successful, intelligent individual ran good races and convinced the public that he knew what was best. having said that, there is a broad swath of experience across the house, at least, as it relates to socioeconomic background and who got warehouse. -- where how. i'm sure there are people that have not experienced it a want in their lives, but there are others who have scratched and clawed for everything they've gotten. i like what carol says.
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the question is, as you provide this universal coverage, how do you pay for it in a manner that is long-term sustainable for the nation? the gdp right now is outstripped by our current debt. every single american, if every single enterprise were to stop paying mortgages and work solely toward paying off the debt, it would take well over a year to do that. in the meantime, we would starve, etc. i think we agree on the ends, it is a path to the ends. how do you do it in a sustainable manner? that is why this is not easy. host: as house leadership reached out to you specifically? guest: sure. host: what is the conversation like? guest: i undstand what they are tryingo do. maybe i is naïveté and don't have layers of cynicism heaped on. it is the art of the possible, what can we get down? i'll bless them because i do think we need to change the paradigm to have something that
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is long-term sustainable to serve the american people well. having said that, i think we can do it better. we understand where you are coming from, we agree in principle. we can control what we send to the senate. that is for the hangup is. i don't have anything but respect for the tough job those folks in leadership have. i came here after telling the voters in the fifth district of virginia what it was i believed then and i'm sticking to those lines. host: this is george on the republican line in florida. noter: number one, we may be able to do the impossible, but we have certainly did the improbable in building western civilization. you sir seem to be playing in the middle of the field as a typical politician. either answer something yes or no war don't answer it at all. listen, this health care thing is a dictate. i don't want a dictate.
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i'm one of the few victims of progressive taxation. this is a good comparison to women stay. leave us alone with abortion, it is our body. what wet obama dictated do with our entire body, everyone, man, woman, and child. my son's blue cross blue shield tripled. where is that money going? don't get it. socialized medicine, there we go. socialized medicine, v.a., medicare, medicaid, every other grant sucking activist program, we would encompass everything is put together. guest: leadership would be happy to know i'm playing in the middle of the field. host: a couple things before you leave because of the various committees you serve on. the president's budget out, large increases for homeland
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security and defense. guest: we need to spend money wisely. i really want to see a shift in paradigm in foreign policy. we should never support any regime change anywhere where the chief executive can't articulate what would happen after the regime change to make it better than before. you saw a horrible dictator in moammar gadhafi deposed and now we have a worse situation with people being behd on the beach. we have seen the same thing across northfrica and the middle east. sisi in egypt was dumb luck. leading from behind has failed. don't arm or supply people who will turn those very weapons on you or your allies next. that is why we are joining together to stop arming terrorists bill.
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we literally needed bill to stop sending u.s. aid to al qaeda, al-nusra, isis, and syria. in some but he explained to me why we were doing that? there is room to cut. there were priorities that need to be had at home. having said that come of the real hangup i have with president trump's budget would just be the net increase in spending. we talked about sustainability a lot. i know there are two ways to spend more. you can generate revenue by taxation or run the economy. one thing very encouraging of the job numbers we are seeing. we have now increased interest rates two thirds as much in the trump administration as we previously did in the nine years. saysnk when the media there is a new normal with president obama and we saw 2% , we aregain and again breaking 4% quarterly gdp growth
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again, there should be revenue generation, but we need to be more frugal in how we spend. host: we saw the second block of the president's refugee band. is this a good effort to continue by the white house? guest: if you look at federal code, everything he is doing he can do. the argument was that there is discrimitory intent, from the judge by hawaii. ere has to be a rational basis . i would submit that there is to overcome that. they said we will look at the president's rhetoric on the campaign trail. if that were the standard, then the affordable care act would fail when president obama said this is not a tax. says it isce roberts ok because it is taxed. if the courts were going to hold that standard, we would have no aca post-roberts ruling. it is funny to watch the machinations ideologically of a group of thought that one particular thing might be perfectly fine after they had who now recoil
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against it when they lost, but that is america and human nature . it is what it is. host: representative tom garrett, republican from virginia. he is a member of the freedom caucus. think you for your time today. guest: taking a right on the middle. thank you for your time. [laughter] host: coming up, we will get a democratic perspective from marco can. pocan. can -- reserve announced an increase in the interest rate. we will be joined by a reporter from reuters. "washington journal" continues after this. ♪ >> this weekend, c-span cities tour will explore the literary
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scene and history of wilmington, north carolina. saturday at noon eastern on book tv, author philip gerard discusses his book "cape fear rising." >> wilmington was one of the largest cities in north carolina. over the 17,000 citizens, two thirds of them were black. they had achieved a numb a thing , they-- an amazing thing had achieved a status of middle-class, they had achieved political leadership and power, they had achieved social standing and economic wealth in large degrees. >> then we will travel to fort anderson to talk about wilmington's role in the civil war and what happened at this place from the book "to forge a thunderbolt." >> wilmington's importance was so great that it became known as lee's lifeline and the lifeline
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of the confederacy. >> sunday at 2:00 p.m. eastern on american history tv, visit what remains of fort fisher. was the largest amphibious operation undertaken by the united states up until june 6 of 1944, the invasion of france. >> and tour the missile defenses on the uss north carolina. >> the uss north carolina is the official memorial to the veterans of north carolina from world war ii. i am just awestruck with what was accomplished in 1940 in terms of technology, training, , theation to the mission last war everybody agreed on. ofwatched c-span's city tour wilmington, north carolina. that is on saturday on book tv and s

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