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took place in las vegas. the atlantic council will look at some of the issues discussed and what is ahead in cyber security. live coverage starts at 4:00 eastern here on c-span and online at c-span.org. or you can listen with the free c-span radio app. >> i was hoping to get transportation in 2001. my whole background is in trade and transportation. i was a transportation banker for a number of years for both citicorp and bank of america. i had worked for transportation companies. my hope background was actually in transportation. it is nice now to be able to return to a field in which i had worked previously. it is nice to be able to be back in a department i'm familiar with. >> what our interview with elaine chao, secretary of transportation in the trump administration. friday at 8:00 eastern on c-span, c-span radio, and c-span.org.
mitch landrieu, spoke with reporters in washington at a breakfast hosted by the christian science monitor. he was joined by the mayors of trials in, south atlanta and rochester hills, michigan. they talked about sanctuary cities, president trump's suggestion that police be tough with suspects, and other issues facing the nation's's cities. >> here we go. maybe not. >> thank you. >> while they are micing mayor benjamin, i will start to keep us on schedule. thank you for coming. our guests are leaders of the u.s. conference of mayors. president mitch landrieu of new giles of mesa, arizona. he is standing in for mayor brian barnett of rochester hills, michigan whose airplane was delayed.
also is tom cochrane, the german next -- gentleman next to my colleague. executive director. the conference of mayors is a nonpartisan organization of cities of 30,000 are more. told.are 1408 i am all the guest speakers are making their first visit. father spoke to our breakfast one to 1975 when he was mayor of new orleans, and once in 1979 as secretary of housing and urban development. so much for monitor breakfast trivia. good for you, good for you. i was not, obviously. >> i was 12. >> the mayor is a graduate of catholic university. previously served in the
louisiana house of representatives and served as louisiana's governor. mayor benjamin has been in office since 2010. his law degrees are from the university of south carolina. 's previous government service includes appointment at the age of 29 to the governor's cabinet as director of the department of probation and parole and pardon services. mayor giles, like his counterparts here is a republican. he was the 40th mayor of mesa. reelected last august. he is a degree in clinical science from brigham young university and earned his law degree from arizona state. all, and thus and endeth the biographical portion. now the ground rules. please, know live blogging or tweeting or filing of any kind on the breakfast is underway to give us time to listen to what
our guests are saying. there is no embargo in the session ends. we will email several pictures of the session to all reporters and other officials here today as soon as the breakfast ends. if you would like to ask a question, please send me a subtle nonthreatening signal and i will happily call on one and all. we will offer our guests the opportunity to make opening comments in the mood to questions around the table. it will be david about her, linda feldman, phil douglas, alan ferguson, and sammy snowing to start. thank you again for doing this. >> thank all of you for welcoming me and mayor benjamin and may or giles. on behalf of the united states conference of mayors. we come to washington for a number of different reasons. one to highlight the fact the political back-and-forth in washington is not an abstract problem for the mayors of
america. each and every one of us governs in real time, not in theory and philosophy. we are compelled every day to get the job done and solve problems, to find an answer. if we can't find an answer, we make one. that is the life we live every day. d.c.,come to washington, become a powerful message. we are problem solvers. we are a bipartisan organization. the presence of mayor giles is the next formation point on that -- an explanation point on that. we have a large group of individuals that work with us in real-time to make sure the conference of mayors knows all the different viewpoints. represent 85% of the people in america that live in cities. the second thing i would like to highlight is we are not just and don't just have an urban agenda. as was stated earlier, with 1408
cities that are are a part of the umbrella of the conference of mayors, and the cities and mayors understand rural and urban america need each other independent each other and have to talk to each other all the time. began to talk about how we solve problems, we do so when everybody is at the table. on behalf of the u.s. conference of mayors, we are heartened by what we have heard in washington, d.c. about republicans and democrats actually going back to regular honor so we can have a robust discussion of solutions to some of the most difficult problems in america. we understand we can't talk about everything all the time. the mayors of america is interested in public safety and homeland security, infrastructure, health care. we are certainly interested in weighing in on tax reform. and to be able to identify concerns of the people of america through the eyes of mayors who have to get stuff done. that is why we are here in washington today, to speak to
those issues as we talk about senators -- as we talk to senators in congress and. turned it over to mayor benjamin. thank you. mayor benjamin: thank you all for taking time to sit down with us today. we look forward to your questions, i think. we are representing america's cities and mayors. bipartisan, nonpartisan. men and women all across this country, from big cities, massive metropolitan areas, down to small towns and hamlets who are all focused on getting the job done. there are exciting things happening all across this country. 85% of our citizens live in cities. 88% of jobs are in cities. '91% of americas gdp is an
metropolitan economies. cities and become the incubators of innovation find ways to direct capital to our communities and create jobs for our folks. i'm excited to tell the story of columbia, south carolina. some of the great successes we have achieved over the last several years. to promote in d.c. the mayors' agenda for the future. about the change in the town we have seen -- change in tone we have seen. we have engaged with our federal legislators. makinginue to spend time sure they understand we represent the same citizens, the constituents. health care, how we approach tax reform. we are working together to fundamentally improve the
quality of life. we look forward to chatting with you and telling the story of america's cities. thank you. >> i'm excited to be here as well. some people might ask why mayors are in washington talking about issues like health care and tax reform. to me, it seems strange. why anyone watc -- washington talking about local issues? why are you messing around with our business? let us take care of things. thatnk it was tip o'neill said all politics are local. we are here to say amen to that. we are street level politicians. we have the luxury of occasionally riding along with public safety personnel, police and fire, and seeing what health care and tax reform and infrastructure mean. i am proud of the fact we are
here to model the behavior to our congressional colleagues. i am registered as a republican, but i was elected in a nonpartisan election. that the environment in which i govern. when i was in law school i served as an intern for then congressman john mccain. that was 30 years ago. he had a big impact on my life back then. i have never been as proud of him as i was a week ago when he gave that stirring speech reminding us that we are here to model good behavior and we need adults in the room and her minor cells we are here to solve problems, not to promote agendas and to win at all costs. and proud to be a mayor remind some of my congressional colleagues that is what prompted us to go into public service. i am proud to be with the cinnamon and look forward to your questions. >> that was a model of
self-control by all three. we had opening statements from three people in six minutes. that may be a monitor breakfast land speed record. matt, would you call? our photographer is supposed to be here to take pictures. he would be nice of that happened. you never know. i will ask one question and a little go today to start. -- two dave to start. with difference has the trumpet administration made to the american mayors in the city you represent? >> unfortunately, when president trump took office we saw the need to make comments about cities that i think most mayors were out of order, out of context and were not particularly inviting or reflective. he did not understand the role that cities in america play. >> saying, for those watching at home on c-span, our cities are a disaster.
you get shot walking to the store. they had no education. they have no jobs. >> as you mentioned, there are 1408 cities that are a part of our organization. is not reflective of cities throughout america. as a matter of fact, as mere benjamin alluded to, some of the most forward leaning things happening in america are happening in cities. it is not an accident. that is because mayors, republican and democrat, urban and rural, are doing innovative things. they are becoming the laboratories of innovation and change. we can spend all day giving you thousands of examples of the great things mayors are doing throughout america. that kind and communicated to the mayors of america the president was perhaps uninformed at best. one of the things we wanted to but tonot to resist, educate and let folks know how you actually solve problem's in a way that is not ideologically
based. all of you who cover washington for the startled if he came to our meetings. he would be refreshed i it. nobody asks who is a republican and who was a democrat. ideas are tested based on whether they succeeded or failed. if there is a good thing that happened in columbia, the good people of new orleans borrow that gently and use that. same thing is true about louisville. we share information. as a matter of consequence then, we have created national the accumulation of a lot of actions on mayors on the ground as opposed to necessarily federal imposition. that has been really good. we want to communicate, educated president and his team. would want to educate congress and model good for hader -- behavior for how you get solutions on the ground. >> as an elected official in a statement public policy, iowa's
believed town was important -- i always believed tone was important. the importance of leadership in setting the proper town. the challenge is when the tone makes its way into policy. about rocketing attacks policy -- wrong-headed tax policy, for changes to the epa and the department of justice. those have a major perspective impact, the stabilizing even -- destabilizing even. obviously there is a lot to be done. thank god we have three branches of government. we are here today to effectively interface with the legislative branch.
answer, and i tried to answer the question i asked, i think some of the president's rhetoric has been destabilizing. but i will tell you, on the ground mayors continue to get the job done. cdbg is working well in columbia, not just creating jobs but as a leader to bring additional private sector capital investment. we have to keep telling that story so we continue to push our congress to make sure that we continue to see the positive developments we're seeing here. they have to understand the importance of tax reform, and if in fact we go in that direction, with the preservation of the ande and local tax preservation of the tax and municipal bonds really means to delivering on infrastructure to help us get the job done. as of right now it is a rhetoric issue.
seep its ways to into policy making. so far it has not been positive. >> i agree. the rhetoric has been challenging. at the same time it is given us as mayors the opportunity to defend a lot of the things we do in our cities and re-examining why cdbg is important. coming to washington and reevaluating our relationship of the federal government and why that is important. from a republican perspective, change is good. for nude emphasis on things like infrastructure and -- renewed emphasis on things that infrastructure in tax reform. i think that is a healthy thing for our communities and nation. the rhetoric, i cannot defend that. that has been nonproductive and damaging, but i think some of the changes associated with a regime change in the federal
government has been a positive thing for us. it has been an opportunity to re-examine some important things like cdbg and working with the federal government that has not been entirely negative. >> i want to at this point as a message to the president. he will find the mayors are really tough and really resilient. we don't mind scrapping it up a little bit. we are not here to resist. we're here to construct. we are builders, not destroyers. you will find great partners if we are engaged in a constructive and thoughtful way. we actually find answers to really complicated problems. that is why the rhetoric -- we wanted town down. the want to help solve the problems of america. most of the problems being solved are in cities. >> david lowder from the l.a. times? >> i want to ask you about a speech he gave a while back that
got a bit of attention. ofm curious about what sort -- what the reaction has been what -- whether -- whether itn has been unexpected in terms of what you have heard from people and how they react to what you have to say. >> i was very surprised that the speech "went viral." a lot of the smears give a lot of good speeches all the time that are mostly received locally and not nationally. that speech caught wind nationally i think because the country is coming to the realization that we are not in a post-racial america. race is a significant part of what we do. this notion of being able to see each other as people and not
judging based on race, creed, color, sexual orientation or national origin is something the nation is interested in and continues to have to talk about. it is not -- it is an unfinished issue that i think we have to speak through. it was surprising to me that people were as taken by it. the narrow issue of the confederacy is one that has been with the south for a long time. it has been with the country. i felt the need to speak clearly and directly to the issue, which i tried to do in the comments i made on that particular day. >> rick klein of abc? >> thank you guys for doing this. the president may comments last week about local law enforcement, for two local law-enforcement agencies talking about going rougher on suspects are not protecting her heads. -- their heads.
i'm curious from her you guys sit how they were received. did you hear blowback? interaction with unions or police agencies? to give you those comments as a joke? >> we will let mayor benjamin go. have david mentioned, i the privilege of serving as director of the second largest law enforcement in the state. helped that agency during a major transition to le-1 law-enforcement status. we were going out in the night serving warrants for parolees and probationers. of law and women enforcement who run towards danger when everyone else is running in the other direction are true heroes. that is something that mayors will take -- tell you every day and evidence and are supportive law enforcement. is important to realize we can
never accept the false choice of being pro-public safety mean your antisocial justice. we believe they are inextricably intertwined. if in fact you want to have safe cities -- i will tell you across this country the crime rates are from the time the president probably refers to, 1980's new york city when i was growing up nowhe reality is you have incredible law enforcement officers who are working every single day to build significant community trust and public trust. that is essential. have 400ty you sworn officers. it is impossible to have that without strong community ties and additional eyes in the community. that type of rhetoric, that type
of dialogue is certainly not constructive to the body politic. it is important we continue to innovate. we move forward with an initiative just a few years ago called justice for all and our city. this will be our third year. we paid for without doj resources body cameras for each and every one of our officers. ofput in place a number training modules for authors. everything from not just unconscious bias recognition but the ability to recognize when someone has mental illness, the importance of understanding verbal judo and talking down situations. we put in place some significant data-driven policies as well. if you come to our city and determine exactly how many citizen contacted had last year,
144,000 citizen contacts. 7700 arrests. 200 use of force complaints. just a handful of deadly force encounters. you are able to go and see was or who the officer the race of the person that may have been engaged in a encounter, happened was independently investigated and the disposition of that. using data to build up trust. we are making strong moves in the right direction. we have got to make sure we keep pushing even in spite of that rhetoric. mayor i am think there is anything he said that could have been more disturbing. he has said a lot of things that disagree with over the course of his tenure, but that has to be close to the top. as mayor benjamin alluded to,
one of our main responsibilities andayors is public safety, working in community engagement and outreach to try to calm respond toars and suspicions about how we police our communities. for the president to say what he said, it could not have been more counter to what we work for a daily basis. i was extremely disappointed in those comments. i think you have seen mayors and police chief's lineup since those comments to try to repair the damage that was done. >> let me use this as an example to demonstrate that mayors don't want to resist for the constructive. first of all, the number one issue on the agenda is public safety and homeland security because mayors, each of us vendors in chief of our own police departments. 800,000 strong across america. makingay on the streets
sure our law enforcement men and women of the tools they need because they do heroic work. simultaneously trying to keep our streets safe not only for citizens but homeland security threats and potential terrorist threats. they are new and immigrant and ever-increasing. would notat mayors said he the streets of america safe is to condemn american city -- condemnities american cities as holes, an tell police officers the way to peace is to better suspects. that is not a prescription for success of anyone that understands law enforcement, for war and peace. us,ou want to engage, help work with us to fulfill a common obligation to keep the streets of america safe, when you can do is make sure the resources and the homeland security department are directly focused, that you
actually help us find more law enforcement through the dea, atf , better trained, better supervised, understand constitutional pleasing, and fully understands local law enforcement is the tip of the spear. they are at the scene first irrespective of what the impetus of the cause is. if it is a terrorist threat, like in boston or new york, maybe what you saw in orlando or not, if it's a public safety threat were homeland security threat, you know who is their first? local law enforcement, local trauma centers. as opposed to making hostile relationship with cities, do you have an 800,000 strong force trying to figure out a way and then help congress understand how you actually make the streets of america safe. the funding for these programs that help law enforcement have been cut by 88% since 1996. that number continues to go down.
if president trump wants to secure the streets of america and work with cities, there are a lot of ways to do that that are constructed and forward leaning that allow us to engage in appropriate law enforcement techniques and simultaneously make the community safe. you cannot do that if you do not treat people based just on behavior, 20 treat them based on race, creed, color or national origin. secondly, if you erode trust between police departments and the communities, all of us can say with almost complete meat in we would ask them -- re-think the language and engages constructively soaking -- so we can make the streets of america safe. >> john from newsmax. >> thank you for having
breakfast today. i would like to take a bullet mayor landrieu said about services being cut. relieforcement aside, for people and helping the homeless problem. have they been hurt by cuts? more importantly, our private sector charities, the salvation army, united way, catholic charities picking up the slack in any way in your cities? >> i will take the first crack. we are always better, always when we are together. we are always better when the state, federal, local government, faith-based community, all the people of the table arsenic responsibility and doing their part. that is always better. each one of the models in our cities relies on all those different community organizations. when one of us does not show up, someone has to pick up the slack. for somebody who was given an
opportunity is not going to have it. is absolutely true the federal government has over time continued to walk away from the table on these issues. the budget this year is stable, for the proposed budget going forward cuts across government. it will have a significant impact. mayor benjamin talked about community block grants. housing veterans who are homeless. we worked on this together. the country found something in common that was important, which was to make sure every veteran was given a home. we work significantly towards that. even of the funding has gone up for veterans affairs, both of those departments who used to actually provide the basis to provide the resources to take veterans off the streets of america. one of the concerns we have that we can testify to his of the
budget is implemented as recommended by the president, we can tell you with fair certainty that the resources we used to help veterans get off the streets are going to go away. it is more likely you will put veterans back on the streets. that is why mayors' practical view of the world is not theoretical. the federal government pulls back and some analysis got to fill the gap, and that is generally private or not-for-profit concerns like catholic charities on the ground. we had an opportunity to affect the afford will housing crisis in our community. we decided we would use cdg -- cdbg fund for a couple of years. we decided we would sequester the funds and work with the private sector and also nonprofit partners who do
homebuyer training. we six thanks -- banks provide 6% of the mortgage, and we would use the cdbg fund to provide 20%. because of the structure of the loan they stepped in with an interest rate that was lower than some of the ones that bank of america. pmi.pmi -- no it is a fantastic program. a 120 $5 million loan portfolio of citizens who are in housing it would not have been able to be in the housing. .01% default rate. our focus is there are some he missed opportunities.
as you continue to cut critical programs in deployed innovatively in every city represented in this room right now. that is the most central point ont mayors want to stress the hill and stressed each and everyone of you. i encourage you to reach out to the mayors and individuals and identify two or three different programs that are working so well that if in fact we're able to develop a wonderful, strong partnership and washington, d.c. at the white house and on the hill, we can solve a lot of problems. let's identify the best programs. let's find them and scale them up. to pursue steve's points, one of the programs i am proud of in mesa, arizona, we had a medicare grant to study how to better serve or provide medical care. the old model -- you make a low
acuity call, a 911 call on a health issue in a fire truck with four firemen shows up to respond, is obvious to every mayor in the country. we were the point of the sphere on that issue. we are sending honors practitioners with a firefighter rather, and the goal is to not transfer that person to an already crowded emergency room but provide medical treatment. when you do that, might reveal of the senate bill to medicare, medicaid or private insurance company and recoup some of the cost involved in that? this was done as an innovative way for a city to respond to the affordable care act. to say what is the new normal and how to me lower health care --ts and the letter partner? be a better partner? we think we have come a long way, but and we have a new administration and the affordable care act is old news and we will start from scratch.
that is a little frustrating as a local official. time when i was in d.c. was right after the skinny budget came out. cdbg was going to be abolished. we went to the health and talk to senators and congressmen and try to these find them how life-threatening that was going to be in our communities. thankfully they are reassuring. they say presidents come and go, we get the purse strings and understand what important. and a house and senate have come out. it has been in some ways heartening to see washington to some extent working and preserving some of the things that are important to cities. it has also been somewhat frustrating in terms of the possibility of having to restart all over again issues like veterans housing and medicaid, things that are critically important to our cities.
that is part of the reason we are here, to advocate for the continuation of those programs. >> we have about 20 minutes left. we had six. i will just throw that out for your edification. >> i have a couple of questions. we will be meeting with senators today. i wonder how you can get beyond the feeling of the hill that mayors are in washington with her hands out given the federal budget woes we have. mayor landrieu, after you leave office sin, what are your plans? there are stories of the possibility for higher office. >> while video first? >> the first thing i will do is take a nap. [laughter] secondly, i don't have any plans.
1 days inout 26 office. the city's planning or 300 anniversary, which will hopefully be a great spectacular. not only a historical rendition of where the city was before katrina but that great successes we made after it. the answer to your second question is mayors always communicate to our congressmen and senators, both individually and collectively. the mayors are the one that assault and was consultative problems in america. we are not a special interest. we communicate to them about ways in which we use taxpayer dollars, to leverage private sector dollars to make a dollar go a lot further. we make government work. i say this not because we are in this room. if you want to see animated, wonderful things going on in america, drugs are most any american city related to any particular subject matter. mayor benjamin just took cdbg
dollars and leveraged that to put 150 people in a home and get on the american dream. we innovate around those things. one thing we have to do is educate our senators and congressmen about what happens to federal dollars was they vote on the appropriations bill. they forget about it after that. that dollar goes on the ground and manifest itself in a person, like this is jones who got the house. misses smith that the job training program. all those things are formed by revenue. streams we are trying to come back and say, listen, look at what you created. if you take away the financial underpinning, a small part of what you are contributing, look how much weaker the country is going to be. we have constructive discussions like that as senators. i think we are beginning to see congress and the senate is
beginning to listen us. 85% of the people live in the cities we represent. cities are intricately linked to the rural areas. when i first started off -- >> rc finished the last seven years with a burgett surplus -- budget surplus. by standard &ed poor's and moody's twice over the last several years. we have created an environment with $1.6 billion in capital investment in the urban core. year withished every a balanced budget. i would love if the federal government and many state governments could also model that same type of behavior. realize the money we do come up and advocate actually comes from our cities.
federal dollars are not man a manna from -- not heaven. the dollarsee repatriated back home. i think that is important. as a move forward with the budget and tax reform and other issues, is important that we asked the federal government to continue to be a partner and not shift some federal burdens onto our state and local governments. obviously around the issue of infrastructure and preservation, we've had bonds for the major issues. we want to make sure they remain part of the voice. >> at the local level money is money. it is not just ammunition used when clinical battles -- used to win political battles. dollar, likeh a
the parents of a large family. we figure out how to get things done with what we have. -- we areback to my here to model the behavior. money is a precious commodity and it is best spent at the local level. oftentimes, and i'm sure the settlement have the same experience, i've had cub scouts and girl scouts come up to my office. i try to find there is a state government, federal government, and local government. if you need an aircraft. , it is good to have the federal government. the government provides for you come from the city. when he to occasionally be here to remind our federal government that is where the money ought to be best spent and is best spent. so much with our hands out, but just remind people of the obvious.
>> build on this? >> two questions. trump has talked about taking action against sanctuary cities. colombia has said it will not provide information on immigrants. have you seen any impact on century cities and will you seek reelection? >> i am seeking reelection. i am not taking a nap yet. [laughter] we can probably work that out. we met with the attorney general -- twothree months ago or three months ago. endeavored over the course of
to get atings, trying clear message from the white house, homeland security, and of justice, is think today, we still do not have the clarity. our local governments going to work to apprehend those who violate the law, our cities, states, and country, absolutely. we will always work in the interest of preserving safe communities. when the administration is able to come and tell us exactly what it means, it means we will treat people with a new and respect -- with dignity and respect and have all the resources to do the job that they are supposed to be doing every day. is taking the most violent criminals off the street. we need to do that. >> from cq roll call.
>> we appreciate you being here. i have a question about trade and nafta. the first round of negotiations on after will be held here. i want to get a sense of how much effect that would have on her city. -- your city. to get a feel for what they will be watching for. and a broader sense of how much trade will contribute to your economy. >> nafta is a big deal in a border state and the economy. trade delegations to new ,exico and try to bolster that
to the contrary of talking trash about new mexico and making it difficult. we're hoping we could spin that in a positive way. it will hopefully create an appetite for wanting to shine a .ositive light we are on the cusp of announcing to tradengs relative with mexico. which is to look at it as an opportunity to highlight how in theings are going very positive economic impact new mexico has on border states like arizona. >> i would echo that. orleans,city of new from the mouth of newer -- of the river to norlin's, one of the biggest sports in the world.
trade is important to us. new orleans is an international city. we are watching that carefully. i think the president has his rhetoric might have gotten in front of constructive negotiations. shouldall of us recognize the country is doing a better job making sure things are fair. do a better job of reconnecting people who may be trainingbs with job but you do not have to throw the baby out with the best -- with the bathwater. there is a way for smart and constructive people are sharp elbows to get at the table and make a deal that works for everybody. trade is the lifeblood of a lot of jobs and we hope the administration is open-minded about it.
official positions in favor of the ttp and nafta p or not was not here at the time. five jobs in south carolina are attributed will to the port of -- direct investment in the country. our city. 200 different countries speak 90 different languages in addition to playing basketball and football and baseball. school of business has the number one business program. interested in all issues regarding international trade and we will continue to be a on these issues. >> the oldest person in the room just call them youngest person
in the room. >> thank you. i want to go to the topic of sanctuary cities. a white house press briefing was set up and some agencies failed to honor -- serious offenders undermine isis hoss's ability to protect public safety and carry a commission. don'tork with us and many and that is where criminals flourish. what is your reaction to the statement? >> first of all, just wrong about that. not aware of any police department that releases violent criminals on the streets of america. irrespective of the immigration status, they're out there aggressively making sure the streets of america are safe. we actually had two very long meetings.
i think the german was in the the when we were asking department of justice and homeland security to give us so we couldion police constitutionally. there is a due process clause and things called warrants. our police chiefs have been engaging with them and that rhetoric is not helpful podium.ly from that we are here and present. , as longue to dialogue as it is constitutional and we do not rip the community apart. the number one priority is taking violent criminals, especially those in gangs, off of the streets. numbers, itat the is in our community as well. we keep it safe for it -- irrespective of the immigration status.
as a technical matter in the when a new orleans, , iton goes into the jail gets communicated immediately. everyone i know in the country says if you have a warrant to do that, you should come. towant to continue constructively communicate but they have been vague about what they want. we are here and we continue to want to talk. as we have said, the heightened rhetoric does not help constructive solutions to problems. >> three questions in five minutes. i will let the mayor answer colleagues on that. we will go to jeff today -- from the usa today. >> the debate heating up over
the national flood insurance programs, big particularly in the leave anna, nec how that plays out and what it might mean consecutively, the argument over flags, can use beak to how that plays out? >> flood insurance is really important and having access to it is necessary if people survive in all areas and not just new orleans. people realize we are not the other one -- the only ones. i think every community has got to make the sit -- this decision for themselves. i made my thoughts well known. on a known take that basis. there has to be a discussion. there has to be a resolution. >> we enjoyed a major flood today's goes well.
us focus intently and we will continue to do that. >> i watched the treasury secretary yesterday or the day before meet up with americans for prosperity, they are partnering with it to close what they said were special interest loopholes in the only one they identified was getting rid of reductions for state and local taxes. i wondered what effect that do youave on cities and guys think of yourselves as a special interest that needs to be taken care of? as in getting rid of reductions? >> we believe that would represent double taxation on the citizens already paying taxes
locally and that would be a huge mistake. was that short enough? >> that was wonderful. that may be a record. >> totally opposed. taxpayers are not a special interest. cities are not a special interest. they are the pillars in the way in which we do taxation in america. our citizens are not a special interests. it is so important we continue that message. we have got two minutes. last question. >> what is your stance on abortion being used as a litmus test for democrats? a bad mistake. >> thank you.
>> on issues like that, both parties should be big 10 parties and no party should have a litmus test relating to that or another issue. made parties have a myriad of opinions on a lot of issues. party is closed off, a litmus test is just a bad idea and they are not politically smart. weigh in onnt to that before we stop? thank you for doing this. for pressing on the time. thank you and we hope you come back. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> are welcome. thank you for having us. collected is nice to see you. nice to see you. [indiscernible]
>> coming up in about an hour and 45 minutes, we will have today's white house briefing live with incoming press secretary sarah huckabee sanders starting at 2:30 p.m. eastern here on c-span. todayive coverage later at 4:00 eastern with a conversation about what is ahead on cyber security, plus a review of what happened with a convention of hackers and i.t. professionals known as deaf con in las vegas last week. you can watch it here on c-span, online at c-span.org, or listen on the free c-span radio app. takes tv cities tour in american history tv to
washington as we explore its rich history and literary culture. located 60 miles northwest of mount rainier, tacoma was chosen in the 19th century as the terminus of the northern pacific railroad. saturday at noon eastern on book tv, we will travel the city and speak with local officer -- one who willuding show the history of faith-based programs and the role that religion plays in the persian sit -- in the prison system. >> a big organization has done this work started by chuck. he worked in the nixon white house. he went to present for watergate related crimes and became born-again. it was all of the same issues. you get your own tv in the cell.
you get access to parole this way. americans united for the separation of church and state sued them in the organization lost and they have to repay the state of violent. they kept making the argument that they are not partisan peer their faith -- faith-based. >> he recounts his role in the civil rights movement in the pacific northwest. >> you are not going to get anywhere doing that. i got that and so, i had to change my attitude. you on the other side of the bench makes a law. >> visiting the bridge to hear about a collapse november 7,
1940. it is used as a case study for civil engineers, the study of rich design. >> anywhere in the pacific northwest. there was an unfamiliarity with how the big thing like this was posted behave. a kind of gracefulness about a bridge like this. to thinkeople wanted it was not anything wrong. saturday and noon eastern on c-span two's's book tv. sunday at 2:00 p.m. on american history tv on c-span3. visiting cities across the country.