tv Washington Journal Congress Members on Budget CSPAN January 9, 2018 11:33am-12:00pm EST
>> the house coming back in today. gaveling in at noon eastern time. less than a half-hour away from now and working on a resolution on the protestors in iran. they started the day earlier with speeches and legislative work this afternoon including 15 bills under consideration. dealing with homeland security and foreign affairs. and in the senate today, working on judicial nominations for the u.s. district court in tennessee. you can watch the senate live on c-span2 and the house here on c-span when they gavel back in at noon. for now we'll take a look at some of today's "washington journal." " continues.
host: for the remainder of the "washington journal" today, we will be talking with senators and congressmen on the house and senate budget committees about budget priorities as we hear from viewers about your budget by ortiz. we begin with the senator from sheldonland, whitehouse. as we are asking about these priorities, what are your try ortiz and how are they shaping your role here and your thoughts on this looming budget deadline coming in about 10 days? sen. whitehouse: i think the overarching thing we are looking for is some the glee -- degree of parity between nondefense and defense spending increases. that enables the appropriators to go back and fix the individual accounts at those known levels. very keen to see the promised second chunk of opioid spending come through. we have been promised that. around washington, promises sometimes aren't quite as strong
as they are elsewhere in the world. the big issue i think we want in a bipartisan fashion to resolve that could fall apart. we need to the children's health insurance program, fund the community health centers, reauthorize funding the national health insurance -- we need to get the denser -- disaster relief and solve the daca dreamers issue. a lot at stake in these negotiations. i think there are republicans who want all of that to happen. it's a question of trying to avoid -- host: can you do all of that in one deal or to you think specific issues will have to be broken out separately -- daca being one of them there is discussion that it might come little bit later passed this spending deal. sen. whitehouse: i think it's important the agreement be .eached -- be reached if you leave something out of the stray, that enables republicans never to bring it up
again. ansaw that with basically accounting error that republicans made on renewable energy tax extenders and they admitted they had made a mistake in the language. they promised they would fix it and here it is well over a year later and the haven't even bothered to try. our experience, if you leave orphans out, is that they get ignored. it, but youage would have to have an overall agreement for the whole staging of all of these issues. host: how do you do that? what is the mechanism for doing that? >> agreement between -- guest: agreement between the leaders in the senate and the speaker and the leader in the house and a strong, clear signal from the president that he will accept what congress works out. host: i know one of the issues you speak often about on the senate floor is this issue of climate change. how do you ensure funding for
the epa and efforts to fight climate change amid all the other issues coming up in this debate, what are you doing and what are you looking for from a spending agreement on that front? guest: if we achieve rough parity between defense and nondefense spending, then the appropriators get together and they push that money down into the various accounts. what we have seen is strong bipartisan support for the epa budget, particularly in the senate and some republicans may complain, but they don't have the votes to undo it. if we get the parity number, a lot of that falls into place. host: one of tweet from the president on this issue i know you reacted to was that the end of vast year -- last year, i --ted to get the thoughts your thoughts again. "in the east it's the coldest ever new year's eve, perhaps we could use some of that global warming that our country, but
not other countries, was going to pay trillions of dollars to protect against. bundle up." have you brought that up with any of your colleagues sen. whitehouse: guest: i think he is -- with any of your colleagues? guest: i think he is obviously having fun with that. thatact of the matter is essentially every single one of our 50 state universities, all of our national labs, our military, every american major scientific society agrees this is happening and is real. for people like me who represent coastal states, what this pretends for coastal -- portends for coastal states is deadly serious. for the president to mock this issue is consistent with the general mockery of all things scientific by the trump administration and consistent with their more or less ritualized obedience to the fossil fuel industry. i think it makes us look pretty stupid in the eyes of the world
and the eyes of people who understand this issue. host: what happens on this issue and the rest of the 115 congress as the second session gets underway? what are you hoping to happen in the next couple months? guest: we will have to see what the republicans tell us they are interested in is trying to solve this problem not through regulation, but through the market and through fixing the pricing of the -- fossil fuel is paying -- paying its true cost of all the harm it's causing. we had a hearing in the public works committee which republicans brought in witnesses who supported a gas tax to pay for infrastructure and that would have a beneficial environmental effect and virtually every republican who has fought the problem of climate change to its solution comes to a place on carbon in the marketplace. of, ok republicans, if that's the way you want to go, let's start talking.
that seems to be the republican way, to fix the price on carbon. host: we would be happy to talk about it more in another longer interview, but we appreciate your time. guest: good to be with you. host: have a good day. we will continue to talk to members of the house and senate budget committee throughout the last two hours of the "washington journal" today. as we do that, we want to hear from you, viewers about budget priorities. phone lines, democrats, 202-748-8000. republicans, 202-748-8001. independents, 202-748-8002. having this conversation as the headline in usa today notes "time is running out for a spending bill." the government shutdown looms again on january 19. the reason that shutdown is looming is because the latest continuing resolution from the end of december pushed funding for the government deadline
through january 19. if there is not a bill to continue the funding of the government passed that day, the lights would go off, the government would be shut down. we want to hear from you as these negotiations are happening ahead of that deadline about your budget priority. jim is up first, leesburg, virginia, independent. caller: thank you for c-span. to all my democrat comrades that want the government to take care of them from cradle to grave, my idea would be -- andnt fully funding of -- e-verify and these daca kids, we can take care of them for 20 years until they get citizenship. is american government definitely dropping the ball on this immigration thing. i don't want my government to be mother teresa to noncitizens of this country. thank you for your time. host: those are jim's
priorities. jim mentions salvatori and's -- dorians in this country. president trump will end temporary protections -- those who currently have temporary protected status must retune to their -- return to their homeland or become undocumented immigrants. the administration has terminated temporary protected status for four sentries prate el salvador, haiti, nicaragua, and sudan. 10 nations were in the program when president trump took office a year ago. salvadorans were first granted .ps in 2001 john is in cincinnati, ohio, an independent. what are your budget priorities? caller: good morning and thanks for taking my call. i want to talk about the budget
and one of the things is i live in ohio's first congressional district and the way a congressman -- once you get voted out over tire, they still receive pay for like ever. i believe our district is paying for five congressman. i do not want to get into term limits, but i would say that once they leave or are voted out of office, they should maybe only get pension for like three years and go back and get a regular job like anybody else. than the other thing is that the elected congressman -- they elect a congressman and then they go and make rules about how much money i should get. they have cut my social security by 60% because i stopped working in social security and got a state-sponsored pension. toy vote on how much money take away from me, but i cannot
vote on how much money to take away from them. that's like taxation without representation and i would like to hear your comments, thank you. host: we would like to hear your comments on that if you would like to respond to what john had to say or if you have your own thoughts. democrats, 202-748-8000. republicans, 202-748-8001. independents, 202-748-8002. doug, indiana, line for democrats. caller: yes, sir. i was calling about the budget they are putting in there and it looks like what they've done has -- is taken half $1 billion out of the social security function of the actual system, the money that pays for social security people to run the system. i believe that's the way republicans are going at the back tour to destroy social security -- backdoor to destroy social security. i wonder if democrats have ever
brought that up. i don't hear anybody talking about it but a few independent people that have gone through that. host: democrats certainly bringing up their concerns about the future of social security and other programs during the tax debate. were you a supporter of the tax reform legislation that is now law? we lost doug. kathleen is in los angeles, california, a republican. go ahead. caller: hello, my name is kathleen. i am from california. a lot of people that call in and talk pro-immigration, it immigration. we never say it's illegal aliens. they do not live in border states. i'm in los angeles. i'm in los angeles. more than 75% -- more than 75% of the jobs in construction are held by illegal aliens. california and los angeles has increased by 25%
. all of these people that call in and talk about -- the budget priority is the wall. people that don't live in border states have no idea of the ripple effect and repercussions of illegal aliens in los angeles. we have over one million illegal aliens, hit and run accident have increased tremendously. just last week a woman was killed up the street from my house and a mother was killed in front of her 14-year-old son because of a hit and run accident. the other thing -- host: was an illegal immigrant involved in that accident, kathleen? caller: i will put it this way. hit and run immigrants -- accidents have increased because of illegal immigration. -- thatat's classically kathleen in california. on this taxation, what
is happening is last year we had multiple weather conditions, you know, hurricanes, floods, fires, and so on and so forth. the insurance companies -- i got my bill this morning and my house is -- insurance went up by 10%. because the insurance companies thetrying to spread expenditures they had, but the tax bill included that as part of the tax bill. they are reducing taxes on the one hand, but on the other hand, they are going to be increasing my bill went up by 10% on the insurance end of it. why aren't the democrats doing something about that? clint, in texas, line for
republicans. caller: i just wanted to make the point that you can't look at immigration and the budget as uniquely independent. they are uniquely -- they are related. with the aging population in the united eights, social security spending is a major expenditure and we need to look at bringing in, you can be concerned about illegal immigration, but we need to bring in immigrants into this country so they can continue to pay taxes more into the social security so we can actually pay for our aging population and you also can't distinguish the impact illegal immigration has on health care because i work in health care. i have for 20 years. there's a direct impact on state constitutions that require they pay or cover health care. if you go to the hospital, they cannot turn you away. a lot of illegal immigrants are
going to the er, which is the most expensive way to access health care and someone is going to have to pay for that and it gets passed on to consumers elsewhere and passed on in taxes. you cannot look at these things independently. you have to look at them holistic way and you have to address it -- both issues. host: clint in texas, we want to on yourring from you budget priorities as we talk with members of the house and senate budget committees about their priorities. we are joined from statuary hall on capitol hill by congressman bill johnson, republican and -- of ohio. as we have been asking viewers about their priorities, what are yours and how are they shaping how you are coming to this discussion about a spending bill and this looming government shutdown? guest: obviously, john, we are not trying to shut down the government. that is certainly not the intent. our conference is coming back.
congress is back in session this week after the holiday break and that is something we will be focused on, getting consensus about what our spending and budgeting priorities are and i have a great deal of confidence that we will resolve the issue and come to a solution by the 19th when the current cr expires. i am not too worried about that. as far as the priorities go, we've got a lot of things that need addressing. the president once and infrastructure bill. we've also got the opioid crisis. we've got a number of priorities that we've got to address in order to move america forward and we will do that in due time. the president is going to beginning his state of the union speech in a couple of weeks and we will hear directly from him about what his priorities are as well. if any kind of spending plan we
come up with, is going to have to have white house support as well. know, weour viewers are focusing on house and senate budget committee members. congressman johnson, hearing panel will be deciding the next chairman of the budget committee in the wake of diane black stepping down from that post. how does that process work? i know you are somebody who is very keen on watching what comes from that. guest: i am going to be standing before that panel today, making the case that i am the guy that should take the budget chair. my life experiences and professional experiences have given me a unique blend of experiences budgeting and resorts management have been a part of my -- resource management have been a part of my life from the very beginning having been raised on a two wheel wagon mill farm where every day was a survival. budgetid not manage and resources, we did not eat and it would get awfully cold in the
middle time if -- wintertime if we didn't have the fuel for the potbelly stoves we used to eat and cook on. in the military career, i managed budgets and programs with large budgets, commanded organizations that work struggling to perform and bringing them up to a high standard of excellence. in my last job in the military down at u.s. special operations command where i provided input to the president's budget on special operations programs and i can tell you that i lived day in and day out with the frustration that exists when our military has to live under continuing resolution after continuing resolution and programs are canceled or postponed. that is wasting taxpayer dollars and it certainly does not provide for our common defense, which is our most basic fundamental responsibility as members of congress.
i am going to be meeting with that panel today and we should know later this evening about who the new budget chair is and regardless of who that person is, i am going to be supporting the decision one hundred 10% to move us forward. host: what is the vote on that process? guest: the steering committee is comprised of members of our conference that have been elected by our conference. they bring back a recommendation to our conference and of course, it has been voted on as a resolution by our conference. -- it's kind of an election within an election, if you will. the speaker sits on that panel, as do members of leadership and regional representatives from around the country that have been elected by representatives from the various states. it's a very transparent and open process. host: congressman rob woodall,
congressman steve womack also up for leadership of the budget committee. what would you do different from chairman black to fix the budget process? actually --ryan speaker ryan began the process of budget reform when he took 2011.he chairmanship in tom price and diane black continued that effort. one of the things i have been saying and i have been trying to make the case for that -- we need a budget sharon -- chairman that will stay in the seat long enough to get conference consensus and drive solutions. that's an area i am going to be focused on. we have had numerous legit chairs over recent years -- budget chairs over recent years and it has been sort of a revolving door, no fault of anyone. came't think tom price into the job thinking he was going to be leaving.
certainly diane black did not come into the job thinking she was going to be leaving. that is where we are today. we need some consistency, stability, and focus in that position to get us to the solutions that -- and address the budget reforms needed that paul ryan began back in 2011. host: diane black of course stepping aside to focus on her run for governor. you are saying you would commit to serving out -- at this point it is still 6 years you can be chairman of a house committee, that is correct? guest: that is correct. ist: before you go, and appreciate the time, reconciliation was a process used to pass tax reform, summing the budget committee chair is very much involved in, but it is . once a year bite at the apple what do you think republicans should use the budget reconciliation process for in 2019 coming up? what should they focus their efforts on? guest: i think that is something
our conference will decide and get consensus around, but you make a very, very good point. the reconciliation process -- the budget reconciliation process is a very powerful legislative tool. it only requires 51 votes in the senate, a simple majority am a but it has very, very strict compliance rules to fit within the parliamentarians oversight over in the senate. it has got to deal with spending, taxes, revenue, so it is a very meticulous process. you cannot put a lot of policy issues inside of a budget reconciliation measure. that is something we will be talking about, but it is something that is always -- was always used effectively to move tax reform across the finish line. at the end of last year.
i am confident you will see republicans use it again this year. congressman from ohio up for possibly the top spot in the budget committee. thank you for your time this morning. guest: good to be with you. host: we will keep talking to members of the house and senate budget committees as we continue to take calls from viewers on the budget priorities. democrats, 202-748-8000. republicans, 202-748-8001. independents, 202-748-8002. give us a call as we show you the shot of a very foggy morning on capitol hill. indianapolis, line for republicans. go ahead. i wanted to call on the -- common sense can realize the whole immigration problem is hiring illegals. if this this is would quit
hiring illegals, the illegals would quit coming. ,ost: all right, to al missouri, line for democrats. caller: if you go back and look 1977, 1986, they didn't want to pay $1.5 billion in the social security. medicaid come if they paid the five point million dollars they owed social security and stop trying to support themselves in retiring like they are, they are not going to win in 2018 because they cut medicaid again and you know this. the k-09 -- people had to pay tax when they retired because they were not paying into social security and
medicaid in 1982. they did not take it out of their paychecks and you can look it up, sir. host: from missouri to florida, nathaniel is in think petersburg, florida, republican. go ahead. caller: you know, i always say i am a colin powell republican. mandatory line is the registration being lifted where people do not have to -- for the affordable care act, they do not have to pay into that, but yet, the budget will give somewhere and $250000 -- $1500 as far as being able to get something back, it makes no sense to me. late --go into the tour amula >> you can watch more "washington jol.