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moral, ethical, honest f.b.i. agents, that you dent look at the top of the f.b.i. as it's been here since i've been here in congress both under the bush administration followed by the obama administration, there have been problems at the top of the f.b.i. the first time i had the opportunity to question mueller after getting to congress in 2005, i was not aware of all of the problems that director mueller was creating within the f.b.i. and so i paid deference and in effect, to his service this the military in vietnam. felt like he was deserving of that. but then, as i have said about other individuals, no matter how
grueling someone's service may have been, vietnam or elsewhere, it still doesn't give them a right to harm my country, either through negligence or intentional misconduct. this policy, people didn't realize what i was understanding nd realizing from around the country, it was doing massive damage to the feed bureau of investigation. and i kept wondering. why would he do this? i understand here in washington, it wouldn't be a bad policy, if you are in a supervisory position here in washington, maybe you ought to be bounced ut into the real united states outside the surreal district of
columbia for government service, its paradise for bureaucrats. that would have been a far better policy for the f.b.i., for problemly any bureaucracy here, many of the departments and agency in washington, that wouldn't be a bad idea. if you are in a supervisory position, at the end of the five years, you have to go out to the real world, go out to the united states itself in one of the offices out there and deal with al people ap real situations rather than this l this h this bubble in washington, d.c., inside the beltway. that might have been a good policy, but that's not the one that rob irrelevant mueller
utilized. and as i wrestle with that, now why would someone implement a policy that forced some of the best people in law enforcement, happened to be in the f.b.i. in a supervisory position, forced them out? hy would an f.b.i. director do that? t became clear and i believe n.p.r. had an article, i believe was, about this policy of mueller's and how -- i think it was in part of 2007, mueller's soicy ran off, ran off 10 or supervisors in our f.b.i. officers and from the f.b.i. agents i knew that were in supervisory positions around the
country, some had up to 30 years of experience. so when thinks about 140 f.b.i. agents were absolutely priceless invaluable experience in law enforcement around the country and mueller runs them off, not because they are unethical, all indications, they were ethical and good law enforcement officers. and for those who have been in halmt, whether federal, state or local, i think most would agree with this comment that it takes probably five years before someone in law enforcement can gain the respect of other law enforcement officers and especially if that officer, that
agent, is with the f.b.i. because there are too many local havete law enforcement who dealt with local f.b.i. agents that came in and wanted to make a name of themselves and the local officers would do the research, they would do the real police work, talking to witnesses and only to have their work when they finally find the culprit, that i have heard local law enforcement talk about the local f.b.i. swooping in and take the credit for the local work. so that is a reputation, fair or unfair, that local law enforcement often look at when they see a new f.b.i. agent come
into town and they are watching to see if this person is going to be a player, strictly in the ursuit of law and order and/or use the name. d over five years or so, the f.b.i. agent would gain respect. i have seen it, read about it and i know that's too often been the case. it takes a while to build that kind of respect and also to build that kind of respect in the criminal community so that -- know this is a no-none nonsense person. and yet here, robert mueller comes in as f.b.i. director and
he is putting in place a policy that is getting rid of the best of the best that we have in the federal bureau of investigation. and some say, well, you may not realize that he was a bush appointee. i know he was. and he took office as director of the f.b.i. shortly before 9/11. to blame robert mueller for failing to see what was coming on 9/11, because he had just simply not been in office that long. but director mueller implemented this policy and as i struggle, why would he do this? he is running thousands of years of experience. mean just in that three life
4s and 140 supervisory agents hat mueller ran off, not for unethical conduct, and not for inefficiency, no. n he ran them off because they perhaps had too much experience and anybody that has concern self-image and perhaps -- i was wrestling, why would someone run off thousands of experience within the f.b.i. d what i kept coming bang to perhaps there is some kind of insecurity that would cause a director to be concerned that there would be people within the
f.b.i. that might not be complete yes, sirmen that might have more experience and because they have been there 20, 0 years and be able to say, director mueller, i know this appears to be a good idea, this is what we thought 15 years ago and we trade it. and it was failing. and perhaps i could suggest a better policy or a better approach to this criminal case or this type of cases because when you start running off thousands of years of experience within the f.b.i., you are creating a great vacuum for experience within the f.b.i. so that could create situations and did, where you could have people who was a special agent in charge in the supervisory
possession, four, five years and because of mueller's policy and not take their family to washington d.c. and sit at some desk, via a yes man, they wanted to be law officers and so, in many cases, in which i have heard, f.b.i. agents said i'm not go to go sit in a cubic call for mueller, i'm a law officer and enforcing the law. i'm going to get out and make more money where i'm going and would rather state in the f.b.i., that's where i wanted to be, mueller is forcing me out. i'll have better hours, but i'm not going to washington. i want to be here in real america making a difference here. those are the kind of people
that mueller ran off. maybe it was his insecurity. maybe have some said it was a god complex. i don't know. i believe that robert mueller did more damage to the f.b.i. than all of the f.b.i. directors put together since j. edgar hoover. and it's dangerous when one person runs off so many people. and when we came to find out and this was during the second bush administration, alberto gone zell ezz was the attorney eneral and we ar aproved because it was abused baugh called the n.s.l. ey were like a subpoena,
except without the for malts. so under this law that created what we call the national security letters, someone in the justice department could simply write a letter to an individual, say,company, to a bank and i'm writing this under federal law regarding nuret letters, that allows me to simply send a letter to you, sign the letter and direct you to deliver to me all of the documents you have regarding this person or this company, whatever the case might be. and they would also put in the letter what the law said that if
the recipient of the letter aks or tells anybody about that letter, then they have violated the criminal law of the nited states and they can be put in prison for leaking, for saying that they had received a letter from the f.b.i. or justice department, asking for documents. hat is a powerful weapon for the u.s. congress to hand over to the justice department and by cially if it is utilized one lone f.b.i. agent. well, we have been told in judiciary committee that f.b.i. director -- we have been told
informally talking about the the national security letters, there are no known abuses of the national security letters. . and there was an investigation just to see whether there had been any abuse of these nuret letters. and the report came back from the inspector general that there were potentially thousands of abuses of the national security agents, ere f.b.i. where an agent just sent the letter and under the fourth amendment, under our constitution, there was no probable cause that a crime was chitted and no evidence that this individual committed a crime sm the f.b.i. agent just wanted to find out more about his person, maybe do a fishing
exercise to see if there is something that the f.b.i. agent might investigate. . maybe the f.b.i. didn't like somebody in the community, see if there's anything out there, maybe in his banking records or in his deal wgs other companies. so he sends a national security letter, give me all the documents you have on this person. in my mind that's a violation of every american's constitutional rights. it was a gross deviation from propriety. it violated what f.b.i. director ueller told us about how the n.s.l.'s were being used as an investigatory tool. and a lot of us got very upset. i think to a large degree that is why the attorney general ended up stepping down.
in retrospect, it really should have been robert muler that stepped down. they were his f.b.i. agents. he failed to control. he failed to provide proper supervision. and i can't help but think perhaps a contributing factor maybe the contributing factor, to all the widespread abuses of this power that congress gave the justice department, could well have been, probably was, because f.b.i. director robert mueller decided to get rid of thousands of years of experience. these are the agents, the supervisors, the people with the most experience that could have told a younger, inexperienced f.b.i. agent, you may be tempted to do this but that would be an abuse, don't even try it, don't even go there. but because mueller had stripped
the f.b.i. of thousands of years of experience, there were not the gray hairs or the no-hairs that were out there to men for younger f.b.i. agents. sure there were some around but not like there would have been had there been such insecurity or whatever it was that caused f.b.i. director robert mueller to do such terrible damage to the ranks of the f.b.i. this is a guy that we were told, oh, he will be an absolutely perfect special counsel. well, i knew as soon as i heard that he was being appointed that this was a mistake. that this is a guy that did such horrendous damage to the f.b.i.'s ranks, to their
experience level, and in fact, as i mentioned to f.b.i. director mueller on one of the occasions where i was given a chance to ask questions during our judiciary committee hearing, said, director, in essence i said, do you realize that if you really applied your five-year up or out policy to everyone in the f.b.i., in a supervisory position, since you think it's such a good idea, you, director muellering would have had to have left before september of 2006. because instead of being consistent in the way he treated himself as he treated such invaluable f.b.i. agents when he ran them off for no reason other than possibly insecurity, not
only did he serve 10 years as f.b.i. director, which was an insult to all of those he ran off after five years, but then president obama said, hey, i'm going to extend you two years. and eth -- an ethical, fair man, i believe would have said i'm sorry, president obama, but i was so vicious in the way i implemented this five-year up or out policy and ran so many good agents off, it would be inpreept not only for me to have served 10 years, but to add two years on top of that. 12 years. but robert mueller did not do that. he was not fair across the board. he was not consistent. that brings me back to, here's a npr,t, march 15 of 2012 by
the headline is, report: prosecutors hid evidence in the ted stevens case. ted stevens, as i recall, was the longest serving -- serving republican in the senate back in 008, senator stevens was running for re-election. and he was considered by many to e one of the most ethical, upright senators out of the hundred that were in the u.s. senate. f.b.i. decided pparently to take out this patriotic, honest, honorable u.s. senator by what i consider
to be abuse of the justice system. this article from npr says, starts with this. a blistering report released thursday found that the government team concealed documents that would have helped the late stevens, a longtime republican senator from alaska, defend himself against false tatements, charges, in 2008. stevens lost his senate seat as the scandal played out and died in a plane crash two years later. the 500-page report by nvestigator henry schulke iii, shook the legal community as law professor december scribed it as a milestone in the history of prosecutorial misconduct. investigators weren't talking
thursday but sullivan, who defended the senator, had plenty to say. quote, the extent of the corruption is shocking. unquote. quote, it's the worst misconduct we've seen in a generation by prosecutors at the department of justice. but it is important to note, mr. speaker, that this was an f.b.i. case. and it is doiflt believe that the director of the f.b.i. would have not been personally monitoring if not personally dictating instructions in such a politically sensitive case as a sitting -- long-term sitting u.s. senator. that if you're going to use and manipulate the department of justice to take out a u.s. nator, you should be
extraordinarily sure that you have a legitimate case. but i don't have the information that would indicate what briefings fib director mueller had over the investigation, but i would humbly submit, mr. speaker, either director mueller got regular briefings on the investigation and development of a case against senator ted stevens or he was incompetent in not even bothering to keep abreast of developments in a case that would be so politically sensitive. but this article says, report, by the inspector general, was based on a review of 128,000 document, interviews with prosecutors and f.b.i. agents on the hot seat. the f.b.i. under
mueller pushed this case, investigation to a head so that it was capable of being tried before the 2008 election in november and in fact stevens was convicted just days before the election and then i believe he only lost the race for senate by a couple thousand votes or so. but the report says prosecutors should have shared information that might have obliterated the witnesses' credibility against stevens and they had evidence that their key witness had told the same story 55 different imes but that the f.b.i. got
evidence that their key witness had had a sexual relationship with a 15-year-old girl and then asked the girl to lie about it under oath, and so it's easy to see how he would have been manipulated, but after telling e same story that would have acquitted ted stevens, as he should have been acquitted, we now know from all the evidence, actually they were able to push the witness into changing his ory immediately before trial in order to testify against stevens. like i said, we do not know exactly what mueller knew, didn't know. t he surely had to know when the f.b.i. agent who was
assisting his supervisor in the case, when he did an affidavit, signed it under penalty of perjury, indicating the improprieties of the agent in charge of the case which is mueller er, director had to have known that one of s agents said, i cannot live with this prosecutorial misconduct, this is figuratively what he said. the agent in charge, the f.b.i. agent in charge, hid evidence that would have proved, i believe beyond a reasonable doubt, ted stevens was not guilty. not just raised a reasonable doubt. would have proved he was not guilty. and as the alaska dispatch news
asked in their headline from their article in september, 2017 , 2016, actually, june 6 20, 12, then updated, september, 2016. their headline asked, why is lead f.b.i. agent in botched ted stevens case still employed? so we do know under mueller's f.b.i. that he did such horrific damage running off thousands of years of experience, years later, after one f.b.i. agent had such pangs of conscience that an innocent man, ted stevens, was convicted when he s 100% not guilty, the agent that was the whistleblower had been run off from the f.b.i., that had to have been with mueller's consent. he was removed from every
criminal case, which means you need to get out because you're thegoing to have a job, yet agent kepner, who was in charge of the investigation, manufactured evidence, hid ed, according to these reports, she was still working in the criminal division of the f.b.i. so when anybody talks to me about how fair and ethical and upright robert mueller is, i don't buy it. i've seen the damage he did to the f.b.i. i've seen the damage he created by not allowing his f.b.i. agents to be trained to recognize radical islamists. oh, sure, after the f.b.i. got otice under mueller that tsarnaev, the boston bomber, had been radicalized and he was a threat to lives and u.s.
security, oh, yeah, they sent out an f.b.i. agent to talk to him. and apearntly he said, oh, no, i'm not a terrorist. and then they went the extra step to talk to his mother who said, oh, no, he's a good boy, he's not a terrorist. but because of robert mueller placating the council on america-islamic relations a named party, co-conspirator, supporting terrorism, he placated cair and he had the training materials for our f.b.i. agents -- the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. mr. gohmert: so they didn't know what to look and and that's the reason the boston bombers were on the loose. he needs to resign and go home. yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the chair recognizes the gentleman om florida, mr. soto, for 30
minutes. r. soto: mr. soto: thank you, mr. speaker. i would like to discuss helping veterans exposed to burn pits act, h.r. 1279 and i would like to talk a minute about one of my own constituents, brian, who is facing this very dangerous condition. rom the summer of 2004 through 2009, my constituent, brian, was deployed a total of six times in . mbat
as a junior march e.p.a., he would haul trash daily and helped burn the unit's trash and helped the security watch which bases. hed near wrkers' smoke.ould smell the and he would wear ration and reduce the foul smell and filter the smoke. after some time, brian developed breathing troubles and the base him al center helped temporarily. when he was home in between deployments, he had breathing treatments and diagnosed with
on white is on multiis occasions. developed a serious case of pneumonia and an and cease in the lower lobby. killing the lobby. the doctors removed a portion of his left lung to save his-. . e surgery kept him alive was n 2016, he was offered offered to retire. they reviewed his case ap termined a 100% disability rating. and elevated blood level count for his blood cells. and he is still being treated for lung problems.
to this day, brian reports aving nimb damage from the surgery. he is not the only service member whose health is deteriorated from burning of waste. while he we are glad to see 2018, we en for fmp y need a more permanent solution that cow sponsor and would create a center of slebling within the department veteran afares to ubs the effects. and i encourage our united states military to provide proper breathing safetyy
apparatuses and reconsider of burn pits. i urge my colleagues to support this legislation and these reforms because we have an obligation to care for our eterans. in orn of honor of women's is ory month i dr. mune serves as an director in the the's division at the university f central florida. as chair of the his preponderanceic task force rgs she facilitates collaboration within the community to strengthen the his papic serving
efforts. dr. mune ulty and ease has been the proposaling. with grant support from the federation, she accomplished the mentoring programming. the following year she planned the graduation ceremony. [speaking spanish] >> she supports the community and the fund. and noz is reguarded advocates for the success at the national level and in partnership with the and serving
at the u.c.f. within the association of colleges and universities and co-leads the relief team at u.c.f. helping to help students in their transition to central florida. she takes full advantage of full opportunities and underrepresented communities. degree atst john's yuste and educational leadership. most recently she was selected as the the fell oof. mmp unoz ands a --
for that we honor you. in honor of women's history month. a community organizer and political organizer in obilizing in muslim-americans. he has led electoral campaigns educational reform and fair access and human rights in addition to other human-based campaigns. nonprofit civic civic mings in the engagement process.
she was the first women state director as the state colleges director. she serves as the respect as the muslim chamber of cheers and on the orlando chamber citizen review board and received leadership awards. she received her degrees from degree as well as the with a focus on transactional and litigation law. she is a scapt chan for those who do not have their voices heard and empowering them to be heard in the democratic process. and for that, we salute you.
in honor of women's history month, i would like to marching gee srier after. she is an inspiration. we works with government and business owners from all industries to bring opportunities and deproth to the central florida region and has influence inclauding in public affairs, business agencies and international export and import and helps businesses to achieve growth. in ork has made an impact major world center in puerto rico, california, texas and latin, spain. her passion about volunteer understandinger the speaker pro tempore: fer. ey is one of the loading
directly impacting the region. through her tenure, he she has e enengaged across the education, economic and social and cultural sfeers. marriageey worked through her rvice as the daytime program director where she started the first program that serves hispanic worth and girg them opportunities. she is the co-founder of the aspire to inspire youth mentorship program to inspire again become the next ration of leaders. they will inspire yugoslavia to
tay in schools and #hang threp tchitep of itforward. jt she understands the challenges of lick on the mainland aa way from her familiar high. she is a lolving mother and fierce advocate for yeags. she is using her voice for the most vulnerable and for that, we honor you. in horp of women's history month i would like to honor karen cooper wezzel. she was born in michigan and led union.ted workers'
they became political active. they moved to central florida in 199 and joined the the meetings to the local democratic club meetings. car even became a corporate h.r. director for a company overseeing knife hotels. she was a volunteer for howard dean and participated in democratic crubs. she attended training seeings and served as a legal debate and encouraged and supported candidates. he was legitimated of the polk count d.e.c. and opened two campaign offices. and serves on the board of directors of the organization
that provides opportunities for self-expression and support for individuals with special needs. in 2014, parents started the club. she currently sesht of serves as the chair of the committee. she was elected by the d.e.c. cam rpry is chairing the paper. aren organized two women owe rallies that resulted in the wc. nd talked about the wars depeanding about the gun safety measures. she is the mother of two sons nd for that, karen cooper we rn el, we honor you.
in honor of women's history month, i'd like to honor ebeth. she's a beloved venezuelan, puerto rican journalist in our community who has lived in central florida since 1981 and considers our area her home. she's an anchor for spectrum news 13. she also hosts political connections on sundays. she's a three-time emmy nominee and won an emmy in 2016 for the pulse vigil live coverage. she was honored with the u.c.f. department of political science outstanding alumni award in 2015 for her political coverage. she's fascinated by politics. she earned a bachelor's degree in international politics from the university of central florida. she puts that knowledge to good use in her job at news 13.
ebeth bleeds black and gold and is a proud member of the u.c.f. alumni association. she enjoys cheering on the u.c.f. knights at sporting events, at spectrum stadium. she also earned an a.a. degree from valencia college where she served as a writer and circulation manager in the 1990's on the school -- in the school's newspaper, "the valencia voice." she calls herself an endless prisoner of hope and demonstrates that by her many community activities. she's a passport member for both shepherd's hope clinic and central florida chapter board for lighthouse of central florida. offering service to the blind and a former mentor for the compact program for orange county public schools. she's the past president of the central florida chapter of the national association of hispanic journalists and is a proud lifetime member of that organization.
she and her husband, alfredo, have a young son. and for that, ebeth, we honor you. in honor of women's history month, i'd like to honor lisa anne. lisa anne is a local attorney. she's also a member of many civic organizations and has served on many community boards in central florida. born in queens, new york, lisa received her bachelor of arts in humanities -- and humanities and her doctorate at novembera southeastern university. after her graduation from law school, lisa was an assistant public defender in orlando, handling trials and appeals in criminal court. for the last 25 years, lisa has been a small business owner
operating her own firm. in 2016 lisa received a spotlight award for her service on the membership committee of the family law section of the florida bar. in addition, lisa is an active member of our community. she is a current member and past secretary for the orange county league of women voters, a member of the tiger bay club of central florida, as well. lisa has served as president of the central florida chapter of the national association of women's business owners, as a director and executive committee member of the back to nature wildlife refuge, and as a board member for the orlando marine institute. lisa is currently serving her third term as president of the board of trustees for the orange county library system. and her second term as chair of the orange county animal services advisory board. lisa is a shelter volunteer at the orange county animal
services and has donated over 5,000 volunteer hours in the past two years. lisa was named as 2016 orange county district four citizen of the year for her service to the central florida community. and for that, lisa anne, we honor you. in honor of women's history month, i'd like to honor daisy lopez. not many people can say that in the height of a financial meltdown, and national housing crisis, back in 2008, they'd venture out on their own to open up a real estate brokerage. while most were downsizing, daisy was planning her empire and in 2007 and 2008 she dove in feet-first and opened her office. by 2016 office number two made its debut and both have been turning out steady numbers since their doors opened.
daisy was ranked in the top 250 sales agents in the country four years in a row and in 2015 she was ranked number three in the nation. she joined the national association of hispanic real estate professionals in 2008, and quickly realized how the association's mission to advance sustainable hispanic home ownership lined up with her core values as a real estate professional. to give back to the organization that has empowered her for so long, she now serves as the 2018 national president. recently when hurricane maria hit both of our native islands of puerto rico, she traveled down there for over two weeks, bringing down thousands and thousands of pounds of supplies, food, water, medications, clothing, and so many other of the bear essentials that -- bare essentials that we need for living every day.
she went down door to door and people in puerto rico welcomed her into their homes and welcomed the well-needed help that helped lift up the island, as well as so many entrepreneurs in central florida who helped with our brothers and sisters in puerto rico. although real estate was not her first career, it was clear to see that this former new york paralegal had found her calling in real estate. daisy is someone you want to have in your corner. as her zest for success is contagious and her wisdom speaks beyond her years. her vast real estate knowledge and love for education and for educating her agents has allowed for her firm to grow in broadway and kissimmee, and to put pour families into homes. daisy has a position for customer care that is contagious and her 50 agents will tell you that she is in it to win it. her goal is and has always been quality over quantity, and that
makes daisy a success and it's a priority for her to educate her agents and equip them with the tools they'll need for success. she also serves as a trustee in our local community college, valencia college, where we work something create that is now up and running and serving thousands of folks in south oseola county. and for that, daisy lopez, we honor you. with that, mr. speaker, i move hat we now do adjourn. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the question is on the motion to adjourn. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. the ayes have it. the motion -- the motion is adopted.