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landmark cases podcast at c-span.org/landmark cases. >> now, former secretary of candidatepresidential hillary clinton talks about her experience in the 2016 election, the ongoing russia influence in our election, and america's role in the world as well as the future of politics. this is one hour and 15 minutes. [applause] >> hello scarlet knights. thank you for the chancellor and everyone for hosting the event. we have been overwhelmed by the response to secretary visits -- secretary clinton's visit today. you have given new meaning to the term march madness. [laughter] >> 25 years ago i was an
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undergraduate here at rutgers college. it probably goes without saying that attending college then and now are significantly different. the way we communicate it was different. there was no emailer social media. we worked on our papers on shared computers with something called floppy disks. go ahead and google that. [laughter] rare and thes were news was measured in days and weeks, not by hours and minutes. much of my experience is what i imagine yours is today. we worried about how grades in our overall gpa. pulled all nighters, we attended rutgers sports gains decked out in red. i lived on senior street. i went home on the occasional weekend to see my family and have a home-cooked meal. i avoided taking the bus whenever possible. [laughter] weall of us wondered what would do with our lives once he graduated from rutgers.
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there was one thing i did know as an undergraduate, i had a growing passion for politics and public service. while at rutgers i volunteered for the 1992 clinton/gore presidential campaign. [applause] after college i continue to work on campaigns, which led to capitol hill and life in washington. got a call.y, i senator hillary rodham clinton was looking for a director of scheduling. this was more than my dream job, this was my don't dare to dream because it will never, ever happen job. i started the interview process. on one cold december day i was invited to new york for my final interview with the boss herself. my amtrak train had a huge issue in northern maryland. into pennnally pulled station i had 12 minutes to get there on time. in a torrential rainstorm. i arrived at my interview late and soaking wet. she took one look at me and said, are you ok?
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[laughter] putting me completely at ease. my first time seeing something that i have now seen so many times. how warm, real and sincerely kind she is. she brings out the best in the people around her. i feel incredibly lucky to be on her team. i worked side-by-side with tremendous people what i consider to be my extended family. the education that i received here, the confidence in the sense of purpose i found at rutgers, it has taken me farther than i have ever dreamed. i am so proud and grateful to be a rutgers alum. [applause] >> there have been millions of words written about secretary clinton. i could introduce her with a list of lifetime accomplishments, the you already know so many of them.
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no matter what the title is she has held, or what responsibility she is given, there is one common theme. she has worked tirelessly to make our country, and our world a better place. she has set a new standard of leadership and dedication to service wherever she goes. that was true in her earlier days as a lawyer, as an advocate for children and families, as senate,dy, in the u.s. at the state department, on the campaign trail and it continues today. prepared herho has daily scheduled for the last 5470 four days, give or take a few, i can tell you that there is no one who works harder, or fits more life into her days than she does. she makes every day count. secretary clinton occasionally coast a beautiful passage by john wesley. to all the good you can, by all the means you can, and all the ways you can, and all the places
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you can, at all the times you can, to all the people you can as long as you ever can. i can think of no one who lives those words better than hillary clinton. she is the bravest, strongest, smartest, most resilient, thoughtful person you will encounter. she is simply -- seat -- she simply defies convention. working with her was in honor of a lifetime. it is now my privilege to introduce the director of the institute, and secretary hillary rodham clinton. [applause] [cheering]
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>> fantastic. an academy award. former sec. clinton: hello. [cheering] former sec. clinton: thank you, this is great. didn't mona do a wonderful job. i am so excited. hi, ruth? ruth: hi hillary. i'm used to the eagleton drawing the room. you, mona, for everything. she has been so helpful, so wonderful for so long in the work that we have done.
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especially in arranging this event. and welcome on behalf of the eagleton institute of politics. we are thrilled to host secretary clinton. i will pull a hillary from now on. [laughter] ruth: as our 2017, 2018 professor of public affairs, and before i began i wanted extend sincere thanks to senator jason's family who i see joining us today and always supporting us in their work. [applause] ruth: also you have met the chancellor, we want to think the division for student affairs, the division of undergraduate academic affairs, and rutgers
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athletics for coming together. everyone came together to make this day possible. our team could not have done this without your team. speaking of our team, i want, before we begin to make a special shout out to eagleton's randy, and danielle will have worked tirelessly to make today's event possible. this event has been built as a conversation, which suggests something small and intimate. that was before our communities eagerness to see you compelled basketballto a court. one faculty member suggested we go to the stadium. [laughter] short of that.d on behalf of all of us, thank you for being here, for saying yes and welcome back to rutgers. heers and applause]
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i am going to ask some questions. we have asked for questions from the public. i will give several of those as we go along. let's begin. as strange as it may sound, and certainly to some of you here, you are the most well-known person people don't know. [laughter] ruth: some people know one or more of your titles. extraordinary series of rolls and services to this country. yet, with all that, people often say, they do not really know who you are as a person. i say i don't really know what that means, but we hear it. number one, clearly you are
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hugely admired and popular. is this crowdoint today and the people on our waiting list will never forgive us. [laughter] ruth: a more lasting sign is have topped callousness as most admired woman in the world 22 times. applause]d and some of you might not know this, this is almost twice as many times as the amazing woman you often mention a top of your most admired list, eleanor roosevelt. [applause] yet, you are also widely caricatured as -- and at tactic as what she. rutgers asked a
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question similar to one of mine. what are the biggest misconceptions people have about you? i would add, what do you people wish new or understand better -- what do you wish people knew are understood better about you? former sec. clinton: particularly as a professor of public affairs, i admired senator case from afar and i am delighted members from his family are here today. for thosethe year and years when republicans and democrats work together on behalf of the common good of our country. [applause] former sec. clinton: i am delighted to be here with ruth, who i have known for a very long time. i admire greatly the work of the eagleton's institute and the center for women and politics. [applause] former sec. clinton: so, today,
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idea no idea -- i have no what ruth blast me and she has no idea what i will answer. [laughter] it may be. clinton: fitting we are in a basketball court because we may throw the ball back and forth to try to make it interesting for you for the next hour and a half. the question that ruth just posed is one that i have given some thought to. i hear it myself. i hear what ruth was alluding to. well-known, but not well known. known, but not understood. i take that to heart because i have been in those -- in the national public eye for 25 years, ever since 1992. im ae often thought that kind of -- for people who are trying to make sense, not just
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of me personally, but of women's roles, and of women's expanded the onlyties in america, but around the world. i am seen not just as an justidual, as mona, who i a doer, and who has literally done my schedule for all these days, she knows i am very grateful for my friendships and my colleagues and i spend a lot of time nurturing those. i felt like i have got a tremendous circle of people who do know me and who do understand it who do support me. i'm very grateful for all of that. when you're in the public eye, you get snippets of a person. i think it has guynn even more view oft not to have a anybody in the public arena today.
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i probably cannot answer it fully. i think people are very curious. of myriosity is because coming onto the stage in a way, woman in my generation to be in the white house is a first lady, having worked as a lawyer, as an advocate prior to my husband never being a leg did president. iat raised questions and think people drew all kinds of assumptions, or caricatures from that. recall, play might a very active in public role in trying to bring about universal health care reform so that everybody would have access to affordable health care. [applause] do notsec. clinton: i think i can overstate how controversial that was. there i was doing what i thought n important mission that my
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husband and his team asked me to do. every day i was in the vortex of political struggles. myself,that i personally, and the role of women in our society, we kind of converge, one might even say, collided at a point in history. i think it is still, to some extent, going on. peoplenly hope that understand and may be no more about me because there is a through line to my life. my commitment to my own family, to children and families, to women's rights and opportunities say,ying to make, should i a more perfect union. i really believe all of that because i was given a great
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support and my own life by my own family, and a great public school education. everything that has made me who i am. i would hope that people would spend a little bit of time actually lee -- actually looking behind the image of the picture. is what i think we hope for all of us. we want to be known as who we are and judged positively or negatively based on what we actually do, not what people say we did. i think that is might best answer. [applause] and yet the images are so complicated. the most admired woman in the world, more than any other woman. at the same time, and right now, people saying, get off the public stage and shut up. that is something we hear all the time. that began to happen after the election.
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was -- tion former sec. clinton: the election was pretty dramatic -- traumatic. [laughter] former sec. clinton: i think there were a lot of people who rely, i don't want to think about it, i don't want to hear about it, that is how i felt. [laughter] former sec. clinton: i took a lot of long walks in the woods. [laughter] former sec. clinton: i drag my share of chardonnay. [laughter] cheers and applause] former sec. clinton: i did what i could to deal with it. then i did decide that i had to figure out what happened because i was confused about it. [laughter] former sec. clinton: i ended up writing a book called that. i was really struck by how people said that to me. mostly people in the press. for whatever reason.
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or whatever. -- go away, or whatever. i had one of the people who work for me to go do the research and they never said that to any man who was elected. [cheers and applause] i was kind clinton: of struck by that and i am really glad that al gore did not stop talking about climate change, i am glad that john kerry went to the senate and became an excellent secretary of state, and i am glad john mccain kept speaking out, standing up and said what he had to say. , mitt romneyn sake is running for the senate. [applause] former sec. clinton: look, i in time was the moment because of what had been expected to happen in the election, which obviously did not. angst and second
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guessing, finger-pointing, everything that went on. tom really committed speaking out and doing what i voice in the debate about where our country is going because maybe we will get to it. you will not be surprised to say this, i have some concerns. [laughter] former sec. clinton: i think we need to all be talking about it, not just me, but everyone of us needs to be speaking up and taking part. [applause] [laughter] former sec. clinton: when we establish -- women inestablish politics in 1971, people told us it was no such subject of woman in politics. certainly nothing to study. we were establishing it at at a
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university. i'm a safety years later we are very proud that this center is the nation of the premier resource on all things women in politics. [applause] mike always, we point to you as a model of women's political leadership. you recently wrote, "the most important work of my life has been to support and in power women." [laughter] -- [applause] most --oud it is the the work i am most associated with in the work i am most dedicated to." debbie said that this work to change the face of political power is a marathon not a sprint. right now we are experiencing an unprecedented moment of political engagement on the part of women. how do we sustain that, and how do we sustain the institutions
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that are supporting that engagement? partisan, nonpartisan, academic, accident, how do we keep from regressing in the face of backlash? i am soec. clinton: encouraged and actually optimistic about the number of women, particularly young women running and being active in politics, even if they themselves are not the candidate. [applause] have been. clinton: i supporting groups that are recruiting women to become candidates, training them, as you have done at the center for over so many years. i think there are interrelated challenges. the first, which i really believe we are on the brink of crossing over, is to convince
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women to get involved in politics. is.ite how difficult it going in with your eyes wide open, that you will be criticized. , unfortunately, face all kinds of attacks online, off-line in the so-called real world. it is worth it to go out there, to advocate for what you believe , to be the person trying to make the change you want to see. the numbers of women who are midtermin these elections, and in the special elections that we have seen over or four year in three months, it is very encouraging to me. we have to keep those numbers, we have to keep the pipelines full. it is not one and out, it is one
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after another. keep getting more women to run. keep convincing women to be a part of it. [applause] also, sec. clinton: encouraging women to work in politics. not everybody was to be the candidate, it is not for everybody. you saw her up or, probably the most important person any candidate is her scheduler. you have a precious commodity known as your time and your energy and you have to trust the person who is making the decisions. they are logistical, political and you really have to put your whole faith in that person. a very complicated job that requires all the skills that she learned here at rutgers. there are rules for people who never want to be a candidate, as i hope many of you will consider. is second thing is, there backlash.of a not only in our country, there
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have been other places around the world because when you make enough progress, when you change enough laws or regulations, or ,orms, or challenge preconceived notions about women and what they can do, or should do, there'll always be discomfort. there will always be people who will want to pull that progress back. that parto understand of breaking through glass ceilings and moving forward and bringing others with you. you cannot allow yourself to get discouraged because it is going to happen. if you are new to politics, new to being involved in making change, it is easy to get discouraged because it takes so long. there are so many setbacks.
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if you go into politics, or public policy changes, believing so strongly in what you want to see happen, you are advocating for the issue that you care about. equal pay, or paid sick days or paid leave, which are being considered in the state government right now here in new jersey. [applause] former sec. clinton: if you care about those issues, you can call your representatives, your senators, the governor's office, and you get into it and you think, who begins the things? [laughter] or you are clinton: advocating for climate change, or your advocating on the half of those brave young students from parkland for commonsense gun safety measures. heers and applause] former sec. clinton: you find
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out that there are a lot of people who do not want that to happen. they are as determine, if not, more so than you are. they have other interests. they see the world differently. they make money from it. they have ideological reasons for it. the biggest challenge we face is keeping up our momentum of sustaining the energy that i have now seen across our country. we just saw in the march the day after the inauguration, now we have seen it on the march for life. [applause] sec. clinton: and recognizing that is so important and to bring people with you and to share that energy and build those coalitions, but it will if youe to not -- naught
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don't show up and vote. [applause] it, clinton: at the end of everyone who cares about any of these issues has to turn yourselves into a get out the vote person, to get everybody you know, especially young people, for whom these decisions impact, toecades of show up and vote. we can have all the rallies and all the marches and all the other events that are possibly imaginable, but if we don't makingthe people decisions, we will be discouraged, and we cannot let that happen. [applause] dr. mandel: i want to go back to that in a minute, but first, i want to ask something that a student in the school of arts and sciences sent, which is related to this issue broadly. "after the
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disappointing 2016 election, many young women took to participating politically in jerome's but for people of color ike me, nothing has changed." she continues, "how do you see the predominantly white political landscape changing in coming years, and how do we provide resources for people of color to become equal participants in the process?" [applause] -- young women took to participating politically in droves. sec. clinton: that is one of the important questions we have to ask and answer ourselves. i started an organization called onward together. will nasa prize you to hear i believe in that, and i am wondering about a dozen groups that our young people -- some of had an organization before the election, some started literally the day after the election, and they are
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recruiting candidates, and in particular, candidates of color. they are recruiting women, and in particular, women of color. they are organizing to train people to be candidates, particularly people of color, to get the same access to resources that anybody should be able to run as au want to candidate for local, state, or national office, to really be a resource to encourage and recruit and train and help people from all walks of life, but with a special emphasis on people of color. it does come down, as we were just talking about, to who is willing to run and who is willing to put yourself out there, and we need to have more encouragement and support and recruitment of candidates who represent every community in our country, and in some states,
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those are much more diverse communities than other states, but what i've been encouraged by in the last few years is to see a lot of people running for the .irst time an african-american running for congress in a district that has historically been republican, but that is not going to stop her. a native american running for the first time in a state that is dyed red, but they are still going to get out there and make the case on behalf of the people they represent. it does take courage. i'm not going to undersell what .t takes internally, the confidence and the courage to step up there, particularly if you are a person of color, particularly if you are young, but i think you will find -- at least i hope, and i'm doing everything i can through
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my organization -- you will find more support than you might have a year, five, or seven years ago, and we've got to keep that going. we've got to make sure that our party structures at the local, state, and national level are really welcoming and supportive haveople who historically felt marginalized or left out. you know, we are at a really important turning point in america. i believe that our diversity, our vitality, the dynamism of our young people has got to be supported and lifted up the cause that is what will get us through the period we are in now and push us better, stronger into the future. [applause] dr. mandel: swinging around again to the question of women,
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in the campaign, early in the campaign you said -- and i'm quoting you -- "i'm not asking you to vote for me because i'm a woman. i'm asking you to vote for me on the merits." but then you added that one of those merits was that you are a woman. can you talk about the merit of being a woman both as a candidate and an office holder? believe,ton: i really based on my experience -- i have seen it up close -- being a woman in a political campaign or being a woman officeholder, based on our experience as a daughter, wife, mother, , gives us a different life perspective, and that is something we should own and be proud of because every person who runs for office brings his or her own life andriences to the campaign
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to the voters. i tried to say in the campaign that i knew i was running as a woman. i could not have run as anything else, very honestly. i knew i was running as a woman, but i wanted people to know that and embrace that, but also to look at what i would bring to the office, were i elected. in my eight years in the senate, i worked closely with the women of the senate, democrats and republicans. we had dinner every month. we shared concerns, some of them policy issues and what to do about a problem. some of them campaign questions. some of them, like, what do you do with your purse when you are at an event and there's nowhere to put it?
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we really let our hair down and just talked about what it was like being a woman in the senate in those years. it was very revealing because even though we might have had different partisan labels attached to us, in a number of areas, we found common cause. it was a real reminder to me that there may be different ways of getting something done, but if you could start by a shared perspective about what the problem is and then help bring people to an awareness that there's something we can do, you can then evade the details because, obviously, if you are a democrat from new york, like i fromor a republican alaska, you might have a different idea about how to do something or if it is important to do, but having those conversations -- it was almost
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unique, and that was a better time than what we are seeing now. people don't even talk to each other anymore. they don't socialize with each other. they are gone. they are not even in washington other than maybe tuesday, wednesday, and up until thursday afternoon when they are back in their state or district. it's really hard to cooperate with somebody is you don't even if youm as a person -- don't even see them as a person. you just see them as a walking r or a walking d. we have lost a lot because of that. i'm hoping that we each ring something to the debate -- bring something to the debate, but we cannot have the kind of problem solving i think we should have it we don't listen to each other. don't listen to each other. if we walk into a room already believing we don't have anything
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to learn from someone because you know they are a republican or democrat, we are in a world of hurt. i worked with practically every republican that i served with. i worked on common causes, on issues that we had an interest in, and i sought help on matters that were particular to my state, and i will tell you, after 9/11, when new york was thecked, if i had not had support of a republican president and republican leaders in the house and the senate, we would have never gotten the help we needed to be built new york and we would have never have eventually gotten all the help we needed to take care of first responders and others who were sickened by what happened on that day. [applause] dr. mandel: i should actually know this, but are the women in
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the senate still meeting for dinner? sec. clinton: i believe they are. i don't know if it is as regular as it was with us, but i believe they still are. ableandel: so they are even in this atmosphere to -- sec. clinton: yes. by the couple of issues, it was important to have bipartisan support, and it would grow out of those conversations at the dinner table. there was an understanding of those days there were certain issues we just would not talk about because we knew we were not get anywhere. sec. clinton: exactly. and it was all off the record. you would not leave the dinner saying you have convinced susan collins to do this. it was all off the record. at the heart of everything are relationships. relationships to your closest friends and family. your colleagues, your neighbors, and then out from there.
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if you don't build those relationships -- i told the group earlier over at eagleton that when i was elected in 2000 from new york, the then republican leader, trent lott, was quoted as saying, "well, maybe lightning will strike before she can get here." i got there, and by -- [applause] sec. clinton: by the end of, you know, my eight years there, he is sooted as saying, "she great to work with. she helped us on katrina, getting the responses we needed." to him, before i showed up and talked to him and met with him and worked with him, i was a caricature. i know what that felt like. i had a lot of work to do because, again, going back to
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ruth's first question, you know, the misimpression's, inaccuracies, whatever you want to say about them, gave people a view of me that was totally at variance with reality, but it was the view that they were getting. i was there for a couple of weeks, and it was before i had my permanent office in the senate. all of us who were new were in of the newt of one buildings. we were all camped out there starting our work, and a republican senator came to see me, said he wanted to meet with me. into the little cubbyhole of an office that i had, and he said, "i'm here to apologize to you." i said, "for what?" he said, "for everything i said about you and thought about you." [laughter] i mean, it was
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kind of a poignant moment but a little disconcerting. [laughter] i said i'm sure i should apologize to you for thinking the same things. but that would have never happened if we had not been about to become colleagues. now i look at the senate, and it seems even more divided than we were back in those days. so much more partisanship as opposed to cooperation. that people will demand that members of congress actually work with each other and don't play games and don't and don't take all or nothing positions, and maybe we can get back to actually working together, which would be my hope. it is sort of like
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they caught a virus because some of the people who are there were there when you were there. are they not talking like they used to? sec. clinton: i think they are talking a little bit, but it's only pleasantries because they know they are being watched. both parties have their faults. i will preface what i'm about to say. we can all do better. i can certainly do better. in the heat of battle and political back-and-forth, i have said things that i would like to take back. we all are like that, but i do worry that what has happened to the republican party is that it is being held captive by a very small group of powerful forces. we have seen the power of the nra, for example. [applause] sec. clinton: some of the very wealthy patrons in the republican party are so demanding.
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from their stated request, they will find somebody to run against you in a republican primary. they will dry up your money. they will make it really difficult. i would still like to see some republicans stand up and say, "go ahead and try it," and defend themselves, but i understand -- [applause] how clinton: i understand intense the partisanship is within the republican party so that you worry about somebody on to tryr right coming in to defeat you in the primary, and you in-depth kind of going kind going along and wondering what you can do in the future, and the only way to remedy that is to make it clear we will just not accept that kind of politics. i was the first person to run for president who had to deal
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and both citizens united the gutting of the voting rights act. with citizens united, it was "all bets are off," more money than we have ever seen and being spent in ways we still to this day do not know. the nra spent more money against me than they have ever spent against anybody, and all these other groups were just pounding it out because with the citizens united decision, we cannot stop it and we cannot even follow it, and we often do not even know after the fact. and then the voting rights act, which was gutted, opened the door to voter suppression like we have not seen in 50 years. so people are being turned away from the polls because they don't have the exact right id, although they bring everything else they possibly can bring,
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and they are be encouraged from voting rolls because maybe they have not voted in a year or two, and now, if things do not look like they will go your way, you have a governor in wisconsin trying to stop elections. the problems are deep, and they are ones that if we do not --ress, regardless of party which is why i am so missing john mccain does voice right now because you can disagree with john, but he will stand up for democratic values and democratic institutions. [applause] sec. clinton: and other republicans who have spoken out are retiring. they are leaving. new jersey, pennsylvania, states across america, they are leaving because they know they will be shown no understanding by the hard right and the money that funds it.
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politics is always messy. go to eagleton and study political history and you will see that for yourself, but it's different now because we have rigged the game. we have rigged the money, opening the door to unaccountable money, giving corporations the right to , having theections facade of charitable groups influencing elections. the role the russians played, the role of all of this should make every american, regardless of party preference, say, "wait a minute. let's get back to as level a playing field as we possibly can, and let's make sure we know what is being said and paid for in our elections."
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[applause] dr. mandel: i have to do this for my freshman seminar. i am teaching this freshman seminar called, "a woman for president?" i just want your reaction to this for the record. beforeer day, i said they knew you were coming here, long do you how think it will be before we have a woman president?" i found their answer a tad depressing. they said 20 years. ok, so, let's talk about this. [laughter] dr. mandel: i used to say i needed it before i got too old
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to dance at the inauguration. sec. clinton: in my book "what happened" i wrote a chapter inled "on being a woman politics," and i did it because, having gone through the campaign , having not only experienced it firsthand, but a lot of then a lottories and of research that was done before, during, and after the ,ampaign, it became clear that you know, there's a barrier. a barrier to envisioning a woman as our president. i really thought we would knock that barrier down and break that glass ceiling, but i realize that it's going to take some work. i hope it doesn't take 20 years, but bringing it out into the open to discuss may very well help us begin to clear the way.
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you have all heard people say, "i would vote for a woman, just not that woman," and since i'm often that woman, i do hear that. [laughter] sec. clinton: so immediately after the election, i watched as potential women candidates -- none of them have said they would be interested in doing this, but potential women candidates began to get hammered. you all remember when elizabeth warman was on the floor of the senate reading the letter from karen a scott king, right -- when elizabeth war and was on the floor of the senate reading the letter from karen a scott rren -- when elizabeth wa was on the floor of the senate reading the letter from corretta king, and mitch mcconnell basically told her to assist. to desist.st --
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i was sure face and watched her start to talk again, and mcconnell basically said, she was told to desist, , buttheless, she persisted ordered her off the floor -- i watched her face. the presiding officer of the senate ordered her off the floor. i was watching this in total, absolute bewilderment. i watched her leave, and she sort of hung in the doorway watching, and one of our good colleagues, a senator from he camejeff markley -- to the podium of his desk, and kingad the corretta scott letter, and nobody said a word. next thing i saw was, let harris ris, formerar
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prosecutor, and again, it had to do with jeff sessions appearing before i think the intelligence she was on. she was cross-examining him. i did that to witnesses. sometimes it was not particularly pleasant, but if you are trying to figure out what happened, you owe it to your constituents to drill down, and she was trying to do that. she was ordered by the chairman and another republican member to stop. i'm sitting there thinking, "whoa, this is a lot bigger and deeper than even i thought." and i want you to ponder that women werese two doing their jobs, and they were doing their jobs in a -- [applause] sec. clinton: in a way that their male counterparts in the senate to them every day. you get up and speak and criticized someone.
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you sit at a hearing and ask tough questions. that is part of the job description. in my chapter on being a woman in politics, i said, "look, we have to call this behavior out, and we should be very clear that we still do not have enough women in politics, and we still do not have enough women in elected office, but it's about time that women were allowed to be themselves the way men are allowed to be themselves." [applause] sec. clinton: years ago, i was a trial lawyer, and i tried cases mostly in arkansas, and i tried cases with a lot of men -- on my side, on the other side, representing other parties, and
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they came in all sizes and shapes. tall men and short men and fatman and thin men and loud men and soft speaking men, and they were all taken at face value. like them, don't like them, but they had all these different modes of presentation, if you will. i was telling a built-in students weeagleton were taking a break and i walked back to the courtroom, and the front bench was filled with men in camouflage and lots of three or four or five-day beers -- beards. who theyhe bailiff were, and he said they were hunters, they had been hunting and they came for supplies, and they heard there was a lady lawyer and they came to see her. i felt like that sometimes
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during this campaign. "go see the lady running for president." i have been on enough stages with enough men that sometimes -- to know that sometimes they get going and they yell, right? some of them even pound the podium. some of them shake their fingers. i never heard any of them called shrill. iu know, i get going, and confess, i know i'm supposed to be very demure and careful and not show a lot of emotion, and i would get up there, and i kind then, oh, my and, god, did you see how shrill she was? when a minute, did you your who -- before me and after me? hear whonute, did you
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was before me and after me? [applause] dr. mandel: one of my experiences, one of the many experiences watching during beach with the 16 campaign was watching one candidate consistently wet his finger, -- wag his finger, and i remember saying to a couple people -- -- "you know, if a woman did that, she would be in trouble," and i did not hear anyone talking about that. sec. clinton: it is in the dna. we are still working all this out. because we do not have enough women. think about during the republican primary and trump
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insulting everybody, but he insulted the only woman on the stage for how she looked. remember? there just seemed these assumptions, these stereotypes that you play into, and everybody has rolling around in their head. it's not like it's just a group of people. everybody has it. to sometimes not being as smart or sensitive as i needed to be or could have been, but, you know, you wanted to say what you want to say and present yourself as you want to present -- and, and get to know yet, you know you are constantly wearing that burden. i mentioned in the book i was actually criticized for preparing for the debate. [laughter] sec. clinton: i was criticized by members of the press, and i thought that was so odd because i did have a little first-hand experience watching people running for president prepare for debates.
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my husband would go away for a week. campuld cap dashcam -- somewhere, and they would drill him and prepare him, and it is not an uncommon thing telling -- to have your team telling you how terrible you are, but it is supposed to prepare you. in that first debate, i guess picking up the queue from the press, somehow, i was being pictured as a fourth grade girl who prepares and does her homework, right? and raises her hand and wants to do a good job and all of that. that is the way it was being sort of portrayed. trump said yeah, you actually prepared for this debate. ever sci-fi, that is a new insult. -- at first i thought, that is a new insult. [laughter] [applause]
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i said, yeah, i will tell you what else i prepared for, i prepared to be president. [applause] host: i think you have a few friends here. [laughter] [applause] as someone who grew up in vienna and barely escape the holocaust, my mother would say from time to time, but it could happen here. was -- i would be very
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dismissive of that. i would dismiss it and dismiss her comments and her fears as implausible. i now find it shocking i am even about to ask this question. i do want you to talk about what are you -- what are you concerned about the stability about our democratic institutions and structures in these tumultuous moments? and what, to you, is the essence of american democracy? mrs. clinton: well, i am fundamentally optimistic and helpful. that optimismink and hope is warranted unless we do what we are supposed to do as citizens. [applause] worry about the degradation of institutions. the dismissing of norms. and values.
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because remember, a democracy is fundamentally held together by trust. somebody,sagree with but at the end of the day, you have a common interest in how we make decisions. you have an awareness of the importance of facts and evidence on which to base those decisions. [applause] you recognize the absolutely essential role of the press. and you protect that. [applause] and you believe in an inclusive economy and inclusive society. where the rights of minorities are protected as well. [applause] the pieces of how this democracy
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works are kind of clunky. they don't always move smoothly. we made, lord knows, our shares of us -- of mistakes and we have had to make up for it and try to keep moving toward that more perfect union. at the end of the day, enough americans have rallied to those fundamental beliefs. and that is why i am optimistic. because i think enough americans are doing and will do just that. i would like to get back to where republicans and democrats argue about all the policies that separate us and try to figure out the best path forward . but right now, i am more worried about whether our constitution is going to be honored. whether we will see the role of rule of lawd -- protected. whether we will have the predictability and stability that we need in foreign affairs.
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the former secretary of state, i the loss worried about of leadership and leverage that the united states is currently experiencing. we have a group of real adversaries and competitors. some of the same, some are different. we do have an ongoing challenge from china. we have a very aggressive set of challenges from russia. worry, an ongoing well-placed, about iran, about islamic terrorism and extremism. we have some real problems that we need to be addressing and that requires us bringing our friends and allies together, not alienating them and walking away from them. that our word is no
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longer trusted. the prospects for the kind of peace and prosperity and progress that we have spent decades building up since world war ii are dimming. there is a lot to be concerned about. that for an fand americans, it turned out -- for enough americans, it turned out the prospect of the reality tv campaign was too good to turn off. but now we have seen it. and we have seen it for more than a year. i think many americans are beginning to ask a lot of questions about what to expect and how this is going to turn out. i am hoping that the worst, the
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kind of question you ask me, ruth, is never even approached. we never get to that. but it will require people turning up in voting in these midterm elections. [applause] mrs. clinton: it will require a lot of republicans to take back their party. [applause] and to put their country back into the equation for the republican party going forward. and it will not be easy. i just want to say a word about what we are discovering about the way our elections were impacted by russia and wikileaks and cambridge analytica and all of that. we are not anywhere near the bottom of understanding this. know is, as has been testified to repeatedly,
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the russians are still in our elections. they think they had a pretty easy first run. to beey are going involved, unless we come together as a country and unless we have leadership, our administration and our congress to do much more to secure our elections that may have done up until now. this whole question of cyber warfare, i don't know if you have read what is happening in atlanta, but atlanta has been shut down by a ransom warfare attack. city government, one of the biggest cities in our country, has just been paralyzed because hackers has gone -- have gone into the city's computer system and has shut everything down and they are demanding a great deal of money in order to open it back up. actors, --iminal
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hackers, hackers who are stealing data cards, and stealing personal information, and demanding ransom. and some of those criminal hackers are connected with states. might remember there was a big hack of yahoo! a few years ago. four people ended up being indicted. two were criminal hackers. and two were russian intelligence agents. do isat the russians will try to employ hackers so they will be able to say, we didn't do it. but of course, it is all part of the same plot. need aon that because we national commission to look into what actually, really did happen and what could happen in order to protect our elections.
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every state should do everything it can to get to the bottom of what goes on in your own state, and i know that in virginia, they ransom tests to show how easy their computers, their electric voting machines were to be hacked. they did away with it and did back -- and went back to paper. [applause] mrs. clinton: at some point, i worry that we do not know what we don't know, my friends. we don't know. when they say, the russians got and their voter registration files but nothing changed, i'm sitting there thinking, how do we know? state wants to share the information because every state is a little embarrassed. so they are trying to figure out -- figure it out. the federal government could care less, it appears. because a current administration thinks it has benefited them. but having negotiated with vladimir putin, he is not a
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reliable ally. [laughter] [applause] mrs. clinton: you don't know who he will go to next so everyone should be worried about this. i don't have time for all the questions i wanted to ask, but i do want to put one thing forward in the context of what you have been talking about. you know, i have been come in disturbed by what is a complicated subject. essentially, civic education on what people don't know. they don't know about the institutions. they don't know who their representatives are. we have had generations of students who have said, well, it's ok to be apathetic because what does that have to do with me? what the government does? i sometimes would throw out, if
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they instituted the draft again, you would see. you would vote. but we are seeing the march after the inaccurate and and lives,rch for our parkland response. it does look to me like a defining moment. is --ks as if it ironically, your defeat, and the poor and parkland and parkland another horas, the black lives matter movement is about, it looks as if it is a national lesson. and people are beginning to understand that voting matters and elections have consequences. [applause] i don't mean to make a speech. when i want to say is the only way we will really know this is we are putting an awful lot on the 2018 election. mrs. clinton: we are. dr. mandel: to see if people have learned the lesson, the
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basic lesson to the education. ruth, inton: you know, really hope this is a turning point. i hope it is a turning point for a lot of people, particularly young people. that was what was so powerful about the students from parkland and their willingness to speak up and speak out and go after the nra and politicians who do their bidding. i think the consciousness has aboutertainly expanded the connection between something that we can't abide, the murder of all those students by someone who should never have gotten try togun, and how we honor their loss as well as all victimsrs who have been of gun violence. that requires voting. i think people get a little bit
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wary. they say, it can't be that easy. well, it is not easy because most people don't vote. most people don't show up. most people don't see it as the powerful tool that it is. i'm hoping that in this election, this midterm election, enough people will. maybe for the first time, or maybe for the first time in a long time, say, look, i was moved by what happened at parkland. or i am sick we are the only country in the world not in the paris agreement on climate change. or, i don't like what they try to do to health care. or whatever the motivator is. enough people will say, ok, i know what i am going to do and what i am going to do is to go and vote. and it will not be easy. but i think it is doable. that is what i am hoping comes amazing energy and emotion that we have been seeing over the last weeks and
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months. that is why i said, i am fundamentally optimistic. the american people end up doing the right thing. sometimes it takes a while longer than you wish. we can get crazy detours or get diverted. at the end of the day, we don't want this incredible experiments -- experiment and self-government and pluralism and dynamism and opportunity to founder. we don't want to turn decision-making over large parts of our lives to unelected powerful interests. we want to be in a position where we are calling the shots in our towns, in our county is, in our country. [applause] dr. mandel: i'm so happy you are here, i would love to go on. but i'm sure you have a few other things to do.
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i'm going to bring this to a close by ending with something from what happened. paragraph -- you will immediately know what i am talking about -- about an event you spoke at less than 10 days after the november election. it was at the request of your first boss, marion wright edelman, founder of the children's defense fund. i would like to read a paragraph from the book describing that event. were, on november 16. together again at the children's defense fund. andon stepped to the podium talked about our long partnership and all we had done together to lift up children and families. then she pointed to her two granddaughters sitting in the because ofd said,
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all the past, she has paid for them, one day soon, your daughter or my daughter or our granddaughters are going to sit in that oval office and we can --nk hillary rodham clinton [applause]
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dr. mandel: i had a couple other say, but ii will want to thank you for all these and grit andts determination and getting back up again and daring to compete in being an inspiration to all of us. thank you. mrs. clinton: thank you. thank you all so much. [applause] mrs. clinton: thank you. [applause] you very, verynk much. hillary, i think we are going
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out that way. mrs. clinton: i'm going to go down and say hello. thank you! morning, weonday are live in boise, idaho for the next stop on the c-span plus 50 capitals tour. idaho governor butch otter will be our guest on the bus or in washington journal beginning at 9:30 a.m. eastern. monday, on the communicators, cyber security and the internet's impact on democracy and voting. >> with respect to the electorate spec or, what i have seen is it is their target as you would expect. but you also see a commitment from ceos of utilities across in country to address that partnership with the department of energy and dhs. >> we have documented significant decline in internet freedom. in particular, this year we have focused on the number of governments who are manipulating
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the internet for their advantage. >> when it comes to the abomination of china's cyber security law, for example, we have severe concerns that it might be influenced in a way that would be onerous, including requiring inspection of hardware and source codes that are not typical of the regulatory regime we see in many places around currently. announcer: watch the communicators on cyber security, monday, a day -- at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span two. this week, facebook ceo mark zuckerberg will testify before senate and house committees on facebook's handling on user information and data privacy. tuesday at 2:15 p.m. eastern on c-span three, he will answer questions during a joint senate judiciary and commerce committee hearing. on wednesday at 10:00 a.m. eastern on c-span three, he will appear before the house and energy commerce committee. watch live coverage on c-span three and online at www.c-span.org and listen live

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