tv Secretary of State Nominee Mike Pompeo CSPAN April 9, 2018 10:02am-10:45am EDT
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parked out the state capital and we want to thank our cable partners for their help. next stop is carson city, nevada. now, we take you live here on capital here in washington, d.c. to a press briefing. this is sponsored by a several interfaith and muslim rights secretary ofg state nominee mike pompeo's language when it comes to speaking about muslims. secretary nominee pompeo's hearings will be this week. this is one of many briefings about him. depends on thecy integrity of the united states's domestic policy. tois especially when we seek theld, detect -- defend constitution and necessary that we keep concern focused on people who take that oath. case,rticularly, in our
the concern about the rights of the first amendment. to that end, interfaith alliance has questions that we would like to see asked of mr. pompeo in his confirmation hearing as he vetted for this position. so many issues speak to islam that we felt that we felt that it was critical to convene the partners appear and offer this briefing. there will be a look from the legal perspective and from the political prospect and from the broader view of the arab-american institute, whose members are not all muslims, and fromthe allies perspective shoulder to shoulder. you will hear concerns about these questions we hope will be with mr. pressed
pompeo. these are the five questions that we as interfaith alliance would look forward. first of all, are you biased against muslims? with 50 muslim majority , mr. pompeo and his attitudes and convictions about their leaders are of critical importance. mr. pompeo has questions to answer about his public statements about islam, its role in our society, and its role in our world. the second question -- do you for america and center for security policy? both of these into muslim organizations have honored mr. pompeo, and have claimed him as an ally. both promote the notion that islam law is the inherent enemy of the constitution. high will give you story about that at the end of my remarks. number 3 -- do you believe that
the protections of law apply equally to muslims and members of the lgbtq community? mr. pompeo's legislative record raise questions about his support with the law of the land when individual citizens and states claim religious exemptions from observing them and protecting the rights of others. number 4 -- are you personally opposed to promoting diversity in the state department? we's that because of mr. pompeo's tenure at the cia, he wrote back guidelines that had been initiated a his predecessor who preach diversity, and that coupled with his high reading from a numbers in usa, an anti-immigration group, maybe an of people of bias unlike himself. i would point out that numbers usa gave him a b plus rating and noted that mr. pompeo was in nativeborn citizen, unlike secretarys kissinger and
albright, were natural born citizens of the united states and unlike secretary kerry, he did not speak any languages other than english, and that he is neither a person of color nor any other minority. to give you an indication of numbers usa. mr. pompeo has not commented on his endorsement. the fifth question -- should the united states seek to avoid war? that is an essential question for the chief diplomat. the war against a muslim country like iran or syria has multiple repercussions for life there and here and our economy and their economies, and for the ethnicities and religions represented in countries abroad and at home. mr. pompeo should be able to answer these questions, but first i must be asked. to include a brief story about my encounter with frank gaffney. frank gaffney is the head of the
center for security policy, and and ane about a year ago invitation of a citizens group. i intended -- attended that speech along with members of the community and the muslim society. this included a woman and mother in the community and activist in the community who is a hit job. -- hijab. after hearing him say sharia law is a threat to the united states, she raised her hand and asked him the question -- are you tell me that because i pray five times a day i am your enemy? esther gaffney looked her straight in the eye and said, ma'am, i cannot tell you whether you're my enemy, i tell you that i am yours. lookedat -- mr. gaffney her straight in the eye and said, ma'am, i cannot take with you are my enemy, but i can tell
you that i am yours. >> thank you to senator mccain for this space and staff for securing it. thank you to my colleagues and to everyone who could join us here today area as rev i'm only and said, my name is scott simpson, the public as the city -- advocacy director for muslims. where an educational organization working on the front lines of civil rights to guarantee freedom and justice to americans of all faiths. as a civil rights group that works exclusively on domestic issues, we have never in our 13 year history even weighed in for a secretary of state nomination. at that changed the moment there was even a whisper that mike pompeo was up for the job. we decided to oppose his nomination before it was even finalized because if confirmed, he would be the most openly and , anti-lgbtq-muslim and anti-immigrant secretary of state in at least a generation.
his record is so long that i will not have time to give you all of the details here. we do have a fact sheet that is available here up front on the table that outlines many of these issues. it is also downloadable from our website. -- history stretches back to the beginning of his public life, when he first ran for congress in 2010. his opponent was an american, worn and raised in cleveland, ohio. he was a member of the kansas statehouse, and was of south asian descent. his campaign latched on to that st fact and decided to campaign on being anti-immigrant. they had released and promoted materials that called his opponent "just another turban topper," and billboards started to pop up throughout his district contrasting the two
candidates. wills like "true americans vote for pompeo." there was public outcry in both instances. pompeo refused to condemn the billboards and refused to fire the a that promoted the bigoted materials. was elected to congress, the bigotry did not stop. he even gave a speech on the house floor, calling american muslims complicit in the boston marathon bombing. this bigotry is literally award-winning. there is a group called "act for america." it is the largest anti-muslim hate program in the country. they gave him in 20 16 the eagle award. he was the recipient of the highest honor of the largest anti-muslim hate group in the country. furthermore, he continued to fund raise off of them. -- their mailer to his
followers. it is not just american muslims he has attacked there he stood against every major step forward on lgbtq equality, including actively opposing marriage, muslim, and parenting. he has gotten glowing ratings from anti-immigrant hate groups. he has voted against the violence against with them at -- women act. all of these statements will admit to mystic implications if pompeo is confirmed. the secretary of state has a massive and very open and roll in implementing parts of the muslim ban and controlling who can and cannot enter the country. since the ban went into effect, things have gotten strangely but wrongly denied from people come from much of -- muslim-majority countries. stage threean with cancer was denied a visa to seek treatment inside the united states. these were denied because the state department has a very wide
berth to decide who can come in to the united states. most people who are wrongly denied get no notice as to why and have no judicial remedy to fix the problem. this is a man who would be in androl of that apparatus, whether countless americans can see their loved ones who live abroad or seek an education, job, or medical treatment in the united it's. that is threatening. this is a man who is clearly unfit for the job, and a man who cannot home and agency that hold so much of a role in the lives of americans. thank you. good morning, everyone. i would first like to say thank you to the senator's office for hosting us this morning and for the rabbi and interfaith
alliance for inviting us in this important conversation. the director of policy and advocacy at the muslim public affairs council. to include the public understanding and policies that impact american muslims by engaging government media in our ultimatend vision and goal is that america is enriched by the contributions of american muslims. muslimhe muslim -- public affairs down to the art deeply concerned at the nomination for mike pompeo for secretary of state. we have heardrd, views that mike pompeo has paired he does have a long history of courting with anti- muslim bigots, homophobes, and conspiracy theorists. his record shows that he cannot and will not be a credible
representative for our country in the international community. his anti-muslim views are well documented, as we heard, and dates back to his time of the kansas.man from innocuouseem like an or not a relationship we should be concerned with, but policy wise, pompeo has the support for one america's top priorities. that is the designation by the state department of the muslim brotherhood as a terrorist organization. a secretary of state repeatedly pushed back against approval and joined by a majority of policymakers in the very same intelligence agency that pompeo himself was appointed to lead. the fear mongering around the muslim brotherhood by act for america and the other close friend, frank gaffney, is based
on outright lies, and has been thoroughly debunked. but mere facts have not stop the in slum phobia agency to link every american muslim institution and leader in a vast web of conspiracy. and it isal is clear, straightforward. note pompeo as the new secretary of state to follow through on his own desire to enact a terrorist designation and lunch a broadside attack on american muslim civil society as a whole. let me be clear. such an outcome would be absolutely disastrous, and would rival attacked us of a state-sponsored witchhunt of american muslims of an entire population here in america. will pompeo work with and interact with ambassadors of other nations, including the 50 muslim majority countries if his prejudice and bigotry supersedes his policies here at home. as a top diplomat, you have to
engage diplomats from countries other than norway. we are dealing with the entire international community. overall, there are serious consequences to placing an individual with known anti-muslim relationships and intercultural awareness and diplomacy and diplomatic relationships are meant to thrive. american foreign-policy is not an outlet to enact the crusades --pompeo's islamic anti-islamic ideology. it mainstream's the falsehood of the conspiracy theorist and -- in whichd which pompeo aligns himself. this is becoming increasingly important as global threat arrived. he is reckless and reactionary and prone to ignoring facts. under manal bias will our diplomatic integrity and when foreign relations committee
takes up the confirmation this week, we hope that they firmly reject the national standing by opposing his nomination. >> good morning. i associate myself with the comments of my colleagues are ready in terms of my gratitude. he wanted to start by suggesting that we take former congressman pompeo at his word. by that, i mean that when someone tells you by both word and practice where they are on a set of issues, we should perhaps listen. i say that as someone who is here on the hill and aware of the fact that we will be seeing the confirmation hearing for cia director pompeo this week.
tractor of antive organization established in 1980's five -- 1985. the fact that we are engaging in this process is what we do day-to-day. -- a little over a year ago, the senate voted 66-32 to confirm might come pale as cia director. ,enerally, a partisan vote senator rand paul voted against, and 14 democrats joined in support. at his confirmation hearing, then congressman pompeo was cia's use ofhe torture. his answer was unequivocal at the hearing. absolutely not. he said he would comply with the he couldn't "imagine he would be asked by the president-elect or the then president to have the cia torture someone." that is what he said at the confirmation hearing. in his written response, he
offered the following "i will consult with the experts at the agency and other organizations in the u.s. government on whether the army field manual is an impediment to gathering the vital intelligence to protect the country or whether any rewrite of the army field manual is needed." within days of his confirmation hearing, we are having a pivot. i would love to share with you, he made about his anti-muslim it was, but i am afraid not raised adequately at that hearing. it was framed in the context of, do you worry about the position to have held in terms of your ability to engage in counterterrorism policy abroad because you don't want to alienate american muslim communities and who are allies in counterterrorist so war? that is what we have. have usedtatements
the fight against terrorism as primarily a religious one and not a political or geopolitical one between a minority of muslims and christianity. insistent that muslim leaders must condemn each and every act of terror committed in the name of islam or else be complicit in the act of terrorism saying "every muslim leader must unequivocally proclaim that terror committed in the name of islam violates the court tenets of the prophet muhammad and it must do so repeatedly." we are guilty unless we condemn things we have no association with. i think most people would find that illogical and highly problematic. the very groups that were talked about today, with the example from frank gaffney, is illustrative of that. his association goes to an award to -- that he probably received.
notuld add that we are having a conversation about the muslim community, that his call expanding of surveillance programs and databases as well has his call for stripping -- as stripping what foreigners have yes abroad is also a concern. we have a beginning of a campaign in 2010, where a congressman felt he did not need to distance himself from billboards that said "book american." "voteet -- american." also in a retweet, we have what he declined to say what he needed to say. we have an administration. he will serve under a president who promised a muslim band and implemented a muslim band. andave -- muslim ban implemented a muslim bans.
steven miller,ut but this is not an anomaly in terms of this administration. i would argue that the views that congressman pompeo brings to the table on this issue seems to be part and parcel a requirement for service in the trump administration. i would argue we had to be -- have to be worried about it with him as the secretary of state. either explicitly endorses the views of the people we have laid out today, or he lacks the judgment to the sensitive task of conducting international diplomacy at the highest levels. either one is problematic and does not want the highest level of diplomacy in the united states. if confirmed as the secretary of state, mr. pompeo would infuse u.s. warm policy with his views that muslim is a monolith that they might fight. -- notot inconsistent
only inconsistent, but will compromise our nation's ability to conduct effective diplomacy with muslim committees around the country, their allies, and internationally. i would argue further that would impede us to would receive adequate representation from our government. thank you. >> thank you very much for interfaith alliance for organizing this. i direct the shoulder to shoulder campaign, a coalition of religious denominations and organizations that have come together to stand collectively against and a muslim bigotry in the united states. membership includes the conference of affleck bishops, of bishopsnference
and other unions. groups came together and are religious police and political persuasion, we stand that this country must continue to better its commitment to religious freedom, neutrality, and respected all of us rely on this common commitment unless we stand together to uphold american ideals, particularly in the face of rising anti-muslim bigotry in our nation. it is in light of our commitment to stand against anti-muslim bigotry and the most bring nomination ofthe mike pompeo for secretary of state. is critical that we uphold national values of religious freedom and equality. the office of secretary of state is the face of a america to the nations of the world. officeson occupying this should uphold our ideals. as my colleagues have outlined,
pompeo has made discriminatory comments against muslims, calling into question the patriotism of american muslims and blaming all muslim for the actions of individual perpetrators of violence. has voluntarily connected himself to hate groups, including accepting an award as mentioned from an anti-muslim group. platform to frame organizations that have designated as and a muslim extremist groups is not in keeping with the role of secretary of state. thehe global front, we know anti-muslim rhetoric and actions in the united states compromise our ability to promote values of human rights, human dignity, equality, and religious freedom abroad. i speak with muslim groups and influential groups
with pushback against groups and advocating for groups of religious minorities. organizations like this are key diplomatic allies who need to be able to trust the secretary of straight to treat them as partners and not discriminate based on religious affiliation. we are most effective in promoting american ideals abroad when we uphold them at home and when those representing our nation and body the ideals. must upholdofficial american values, including guaranteeing religious freedom for all to represent our nation to the world. it is not only the moral thing to do, but it is better for our citizens and image and the only way we can see a more prosperous world. we urge senators to take all of this into account when considering might pompeo or secretary of state. thank you. >> my thanks to all of our
speakers. we have a few minutes for questions. we have a microphone setup at the back of the room can we ask you to set -- step up there so that we can capture you. .> i wanted to make a comment mike pompeo has condemned every muslim has to condemn muslims. they have done a good job of brainwashing might pay a -- like pompeo. thank you. >> yes, please. >> i'm with writers. . was -- reuters i was wondering if you could talk about meetings on the hill and what reception you are having and raising this point. >> i could start by noting that
the coalition that has come hearing is pompeo's very important during this time. it is brought together groups like ourselves who advocate for civil rights. there are concerns of the civil libertarians, and war cabinet frame that has been a really important heart of this. folks have gone up to talk with senators, both on the confirmation hearing process and broader issues, there is an interesting that this is -- an understanding that if you approved him for cia met that you believe he could serve, that you have to take a second look now. this is based on what happened and the role of the secretary of state in diplomacy that they need to play for our country versus the role of the cia director. understand those concerns. i cannot speak specifically
where they will end up, and do not have a lot of information. i know that the coalition that has come to raise concerns is a broad one and important one that represents a broad collection of ideas. >> anyone else? that weld also note really have to look at the totality of the environment that we are in and the agenda that we see this particular administration pushing. as this diverse coalition has come together, it is important pompeo is nothat an anomaly. he is part of a broader effort to push a certain agenda and folks like pompeo who work with bigotsnti-muslim
and xina folks are the ones -- xenophobes are the ones who work on these positions. ask membership across 50 states to contact their own representatives to make sure those questions are asked satisfactorily. i do want to make clear and put a finer point on important notes of my colleagues and that is that senators will not get a free pass on this particular nomination. this individual has proven to be so extreme and this is happening at a time when even if you voted for him for cia director, this is a different set of issues and a different time. we will pay close attention -- close attention to it. do we have other questions?
mind, ask if you don't catherine, what is the essential question about director pompeo that you would want to see asked by the committee evaluating his nomination? catherine: the essential question i would like to see, and i believe our coalition held like to see is whether is himself committed to american ideals of religious freedom and equality and whether he can adequately represent those in his diplomacy abroad. that is what we have to know in order to know whether he can effectively represent our country as well as be an effective diplomat in the world. >> thank you. if i may ask, if
someone is on record opposing the presence of islam in our society, a constructive force among the intermissions in negotiating on behalf of the united states in the way that some people suggested that only richard nixon could make peace with china. my answer is, no. framedciate the way you it, actually. that is the right way to have this discussion. an individual who has talked about the fate of 1.8 billion people on this planet the way he has, including many who are american muslims, i think would have major issues looking at a colleague of from a muslim majority country, looking at a foreign minister dealing with any member of the arab league, i would suggest he would have a problem working with anyone but the european union. i actually think we are at a
point where what used to be infusing way that people talked about things has been demonstrated since the 2016 campaign to be various specific in its policies. we know what anti-muslim and anti-arab bigotry look like because we are attempting to have policies implemented in this country. there is pushback on that. there is response to that that we have seen. it is the arab world or muslim majority countries, i think all people, including officials of the united nations that you have to do is are going to do this candidate as our secretary of state with suspect because of the position that he has articulated. ourill absolutely deter ability to be effective leaders in the world. thank you. we know that mr. pompeo has been
the center for security policy spirit he is not the only public feet -- figure elected. are there other people in whose company -- another cohort in which his company is noticeable that you might mention for us? say that frank forney's group, sent security policy and the act for america are two of the most ive advocacy organizations that have a clear anti-muslim agenda. there are certainly local organizations that branch off from those. they used talking points and strategies and tactics. as a darlingompeo of these organizations is incredibly problematic. it is incredibly concerning
because he is not just cavorting with these organizations and using talking points and using those to formulate policy, but he is also effectively legitimizing and lending credibility to those organizations as an elected member of agra's and now a cia director and hopefully not, -- of congress, and now a cia director and hopefully not, secretary of state. >> you did mention mr. pompeo support of some of these notions . the secretary of state with his record could also potentially be the target of legal action on the part of organizations like muslim accident -- muslim advocates. allies have been
fighting to ban since it was announced. it is discriminatory on its face, no matter who is implementing it. some of the examples i discussed earlier today, the afghan robotics girls team and an iranian man with cancer who is seeking cancer. these are one of thousands of stories that are out there, many of which will never get told because the state department has very broad bucks ability to interpret the law to decide who can enter the country and who cannot. broad ability to intercept the law to decide who can enter the country and who cannot. there are a lot of steps along the way. those can be intervened at any point in time by submitting the process to actually traveling and arriving here. we are deeply concerned because
it is so opaque and behind the scenes. for folks who get visas denied, there is not a judicial remedy for that. you.ank high wall for one more opportunity for questions. -- i will offer one more opportunity for questions. >> my question is, if pompeo is confirmed and knowing his track record, i assume he will bring the position. do you have any action planned to follow after that to fight back against his bigotry? it is a good question which goes to the heart of what the powers of the executive branch and its cabinet are. we have these same remedies that we have for anyone knows we might have questions about in the way that we reach public
policy in the united states. and questions to be raised constantly in public and ultimately the american people have referendum on the administration and all of its act or's. i would add that the importance of congressional aersight ideally we have confirmation process and a full boat that will prevent this from taking place. i think, frankly, a thorough hearing would arrive at very much some of the same positions we are articulating today. in addition to that, we do have the ability to ask members of oversight, maintain particularly with director pompeo. very practices are
being implemented in some ways by officials at state. the ability to make very practie being decisions that can negatively impact a group that you have harbored ill feelings toward and a public way is something that would need to be thoroughly examined. thank you. i would like to conclude with a couple of remarks. we would rather not need to use this form to raise questions about someone who has been nominated for a cabinet position. the essential questions we have been asking here come regardless of party or policy. they would be questions that would be asked of any nominee for any cabinet position that had an impact on the life and well-being of u.s. citizens and their interests at home and abroad. without meaningful access to the administration, which i think is representation we would all agree with, are necessary for him as religious and cultural minorities in this country is the public form. that is why we are here in
support of each other. each of us stands as a matter of faith and as a matter of principle under the constitution of each other for the full guarantee of human rights and constitutionally guaranteed rights, and are willing to come together to stand shoulder to shoulder when those rights are compromised or threatened. i think my fellow panelists for being here today, and i think those today for being in attendance. -- thank those -- i think my fellow panel -- thank my fellow panelists for being here today and i thank those for being in attendance today.
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