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joins us to talk about the new frontline special on the trump presidency. and then nasa's martin still it's an update on the search for earthlike planets. ♪ senate majority leader mitch mcconnell is threatening to work throughout the weekend 's president trump administration nominees are not approved, including one for district judge and the national labors relations for. it is the 10th of april, this is "washington journal." there are two hearings with the facebook ceo mark zuckerberg on data protection after they revealed 87 million users had personal information access eight room that worked for donald trump's presidential campaign. you can see it on c-span2 at
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www.c-span.org -- c-span radio app. in that first hour, we want to hear from facebook users on diff you have concerns on how year data is used. have you or have you planned to drop facebook? or do you have questions about how they handled ads in the 2016 election? you can call (202)-748-8000 if you want to tell us about how facebook is dealing with your personal data and if you have concerns. all others, (202)-748-8001. you can post on twitter at --@cspanwj, and our facebook page at -- facebook.com/c-span. tell us about the hearing that will take place on the senate side today with mark zuckerberg, tony rob, on the phone with the washington post, their tech policy reporter. good morning. guest: good morning. host: give us a sense of what will play out today during the hearing. guest: this is the most serious
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political test that mark zuckerberg has probably ever faced and his first-ever testimony to capitol hill. he will face off with more than 40 senators, almost tough the entire chamber, who have lots of questions about cambridge analytica, the company's privacy practices, and way facebook candles russian information during the 2016 election. the concerns are many with cambridge analytica. there are questions on whether -- whether facebook allowed them to capture tens of violatedof information a settlement to the federal government over another privacy mishap several years ago. that could reach into the billions of dollars for fines, soap stakes are high. everyone wants to hear what mark zuckerberg will say and penalties could be immense of the federal government finds it error again handling consumer information. host: what is zuckerberg expects
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to say in his company's practices? guest: he is expected to apologize, something the company has done many times. facebook has to do better and contact information better. it has also to threats on its platform. you can expect zuckerberg to point to some things facebook has announced in recent weeks to shore up how it handles personal information, such as telling users who was affected by it isdge analytica and unclear if this is the sort of thing that will help regulators. if it will satisfy them. senator blumenthal said he dealt unsafe andacebook's " unstated moment,", a reference automakers fail
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to have enough protections for passengers and that led to the legislative onslaught in the auto industry. the question is zuckerberg's apologies up enough for the entire tech industry, including his company. host: as far as senators, i be interested in regulation, overall, -- r the interstate in regulation -- are they interested in regulation or are they saying, police yourself or we will step in? guest: there certainly is some of that, but other issues, as well -- [no audio] a longtime supporter of u.s. government. even republicans have thrown their voice into the mix. marsha blackburn of tennessee has put out a bill a few months ago that would require companies to get permission before they sell personal information to advertisers. that would be tech companies like facebook and internet service providers like comcast. many times we have had these
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legislative pushes after a major privacy or data security mishap. facebook has been apologizing for more than a decade for mishandling consumer information and lawmakers have threatened bills. none of that has transformed into law, even with the major equifax breach, where more than 140 million hymns' personal information was extolling, while lawmakers failed to pass the data security measure at that time. have i think right to skepticism whether the noise will result in full regulation. host: tony romm, setting up that hearing that will take place today in front of the senate, and mr. zuckerberg is expected to appear in front of the house tomorrow. thank you for your time today. guest: thank you for having me. host: you heard our guest talk about the intensive the senators and topics to discuss. you can add to the conversation. if you are concerned about facebook and how it uses
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personal data, ads during the 2016 election, all of those up for discussion this hour when it comes to facebook in light of the hearings. (202)-748-8000 for facebook users. all others, (202)-748-8001. you can post on twitter and facebook, as well, if you are up to it. in virginia beach, we start with a facebook user, james, good morning. caller: good morning. thank you. pedro, donald trump is the manchurian candidate. what actually happened was this started in 2014 with the steve bannon, the mercer's -- host: this is about the facebook hearing today. your concerns about data, talk to that. caller: this is what it is all about. john bolton, he is also in that. this started when a spec started using this and peter teel was on the facebook board. what happened was this deformation.
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because of this company because peter the a was on the board of facebook. we must realize that all of these people actually changed votes. the voting machines do not need to be hooked up to the government. look at your cable box, it isn't hooked up to the government and you don't have control of it. host: apologies for that, but we will stick to facebook and personal data. for facebook users, james identified as one. it is (202)-748-8000. all others, (202)-748-8001. chris wilson, who identifies himself as a republican data science for mentalist in the washington journal this morning argues about the gop needing a free facebook. here is what he talks about, saying conservatives and republicans should resist to make media platforms harbingers of truth. it would transform the free
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advertising market into a highly regulated monopoly, which the liberal media -- host: they can hire tens of thousands of employees. smaller competitors would stand no chance of keeping up. this is how they summoned market share and creates monopolies. why should conservatives worry? look at the example of the newspaper industry. two paper towns in one benefited from competition and then it became a one paper town. left.ws slanted further chris wilson argues and finishes out, saying a similar dynamic would play out in congress imposed regulations on facebook and competitors. a told once used successfully by conservative campaigns would see it frozen in place and
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competition would become like all before, the thoughts and the wall street journal this morning. andre from maryland, go ahead. caller: ken you hear me? -- can you hear me? host: go ahead. caller: when i was on facebook -- i deactivated it about three years ago, right before the 2016 election -- i have noticed that whenever i liked a particular page, like let's say i liked the page that dealt with the washington redskins, a football team, i noticed a few days after that, i would get advertisements redskins merchandise not too soon after. for me, that was alarming. i just deleted my facebook ever since. host: that is what drove you to make that decision, the ads pushed out to you? caller: yes. host: you have had no thoughts about going back to it or missed it now that it isn't in your
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life? caller: at first, i did, but honestly, i do not need social media that much. you kind of loose all of these superficial relationships and you just stay in touch with the people that you actually want to keep in touch with. i don't miss it that much. host: what age range do you find yourself in? caller: i am 24. host: i'm curious to see how this breaks into generations. if you want to identify yourself that way and you're thinking on facebook and practices. from indiana, a facebook user, joanna. caller: how are you doing? host: go aheadhost:. caller: yes, sir. i am calling because facebook is not the only social media that we use to promote or demote the candidates. -- we log in and
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off, but the discussion between friends and family is sometimes intense, but we get down to the bottom of things most of the time and find the truth. there is an awful lot of propaganda put up your. , but by our own users and friends, and family because they pass it along, from and do seer another, it through the google or other things. a search it. whatever item they are looking for. if they want to propaganda, they will find it. host: when you are using facebook, if you are talking to ,riends over however you use it as far as the data you put out, are you concerned about how it is used? caller: in some ways, yes. yes, i research my data and i don't put it out there unless i know it is true.
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if i went across one that is in -- if i run across one that isn't, i tell them about it. they really don't like it much. indiana.t is joanna in this is for a two says, i quit facebook two to three years ago. i'm not sure where twitter is in relation to data selling. he says mr. zuckerberg should be questioned. and joni says is this the same republican party that eliminated regulation, calling it overbearing? those of the thoughts on twitter. that hearing you can see on c-span on 2:15 this afternoon. there are a variety of ways to monitor what goes on on c-span3, , c-span radio app. this will be before the senate judiciary and commerce committee today. on the house side, a hearing takes place tomorrow at 10:00 in the morning. the house energy and commerce committee will be asking mr.
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zuckerberg questions. watch that on c-span3 and are www.c-span.org and c-span radio app platforms. cecile in north carolina, are like brothers -- our line for others. caller: i disagree with this thinking that [indiscernible] and are to be controlled by that government and it is totally out of control at this time. i think that strict controls by any government, whether it be control. or not, it is it is in the hands of people that can use and abuse privilege. host: when you say this out of control, what you mean? -- you because facebook put the mechanism out there for the pleasure of making profit
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overselling the product, and if it is not controlled by regulation -- host: how much regulation should there be and what type? are you afraid to goes too far as far as other social media platforms? social media is not social it is not under control. i think it is totally out of control when they can sell you a product. host: that is the cecile on our line for others. ohio, hello. you are on. inler: yes, i am not agreement with facebook having access to or using our information. had my facebook account stolen for three years.
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i do not know -- i tried -- i lost -- someone stole my password so every time i tried to get back into the accounts, it would kick me out. -- someone placed information on my facebook account that was not my own. i tried to contact the company and no one returned my phone calls. accounts,ld go up the the information that was there said i intended schools -- i attended schools ahead not. information was on there i had not placed on the site and it was very scary. i just recently got back into my facebook and i am in the process now of shutting the account down. but i bet that was very scary. host: so you do not imagine you will revisit facebook? what about other social media platforms? are you going to shut goes down, as well? caller: at this point, that is about where i am with it. like i said, i would have shut
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it down sooner, but because it took me so -- you know, i was in the process of moving and when i got back to the site and realized information was there i had not placed there, to say the least, it was scary someone could do that. host: what kind of things would you like legislators task of mark zuckerberg? -- to ask of mark zuckerberg? caller: i guess that he does a better job in looking into -- it is his facebook and his process that there is someone who does a better job with monitoring it and instances like that, where someone'sn can steal account for three years or years, and add whatever they want and no one is watching them. tracy off of twitter this
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morning at stash the caller is right -- -- the caller is right. all i see are ads. this book is not fun anymore. the only reason i get facebook is to keep up with family and other states. other than that, it is useless. atour facebook page c-span/facebook, we have a cold going on asking you about personal data -- we have a poll going on asking you about personal data. 94% responded saying, no. you can put your thoughts on our facebook page. alan is next in missouri, a facebook user. caller: how are you? host: fine, thank you. caller: i think facebook is doing censoring when i post something. i tried to share something that i think is interesting and i
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would like my friends to know, sometimes they don't post it. i see it, but i don't get no comments or anything. i usually do. sometimes i don't. i think they are censoring stuff . they let me see it's, but as far as other people seeing it, they don't i do not believe because i don't get no comments. it is like they are taking my data. they know what i like but my friends are not seeing what i want them to see sometimes. host: what kind of things are you sharing? is it political or generic in nature? caller: sometimes it is political. that is usually the ones that i think they censor. for the most part. host: what went you like, if anything, the government to do? the biasedl, i think
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censoring should stop. host: that is alan giving his thoughts from missouri. we are asking if you trust facebook with your personal data. the hearings are set today with the senate and the house tomorrow. (202)-748-8000 for facebook users. (202)-748-8001. in the business section of the there is a piece about today's hearing. the headline -- our privacy has eroded and we are ok with that. the reality is when it comes to privacy, the trade-off has been made. we decided to give away our personal information in exchange for free content and to interact with others.
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host: that is from the new york times. let's hear from wayne in west virginia. caller: i do not use facebook at all for the simple reason i know they are doing that. littleremember, the cartoon characters and those tiny microchips -- that was hilarious. thing-- the other hilarious about it is my name is encrypted with all the data on their. host: how did you figure that out? caller: i wrote it. host: ok. in denver, who
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adds thoughts, saying -- going to stop shopping at walmart, too . yes that everything you do is tracked and leaving your account now is a little late. you can make your thoughts no on the phone lines this -- known on the phone lines, our twitter feed and facebook. from rutgers university, a saying,rom usa today, do not spare mark zuckerberg and mixed argument saying, i and not urging the committee members to be brutal or disrespectful, but they must extract from him concrete and significant pledges to read his hugely lucrative platform of the scamming, trolling, and deception with which it has been invested.
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host: that is this morning in the usa today. sean is next from new york underline for others -- on our line for others. caller: good morning. i want to know how many people really need the terms and conditions -- read the terms and conditions you agree to it the end when they pass, do you really want -- when they asked, do you really agree to the terms? if you do not agree, you are not allowed to use their services.
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and i am not sure. i am pretty sure if you go on , or any ofinstagram these social media platforms, they have these obscure terms and conditions that are like 18 pages 238 pages long. i do not know -- to 38 pages long. i don't know why people think mark zuckerberg is in for your purposes. these guys are all crooks to begin with. host: do you read these yourself as far as the terms and use agreements? caller: like video games, for instance, when you go up on like sony or playstation or something like that, they ask you for the same terms and conditions like your privacy may be hacked or whatever, you know? and if you do not agree, you cannot play the game. i bought the game, but i cannot
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play the game if i don't agree to the terms and conditions. host: what do you read that before you agree? caller: i do. iny say that they can listen to your -- while you are playing. it is a whole bunch of ridiculousness. it is unbelievable. host: if you know that going into it, why do you play the game or go for it? caller: i mean, sometimes i have returned the game because -- like call of duty -- like some of those five and games or whatever -- those violent games or whatever. they have these conditions you have to agree to. if you are 18 and over, a certain part of the game he cannot play, so i will be like, i will agree to that but some parts of the game you can't play. host: let me draw you back to social media. andyou on these platforms
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do you agree to the terms and conditions and read them? caller: i do read them, that is what i have not actually signed up for facebook or instasham or any of these other ridiculous websites. host: let's go to patrick in florida, a facebook user. patrick? caller: hey. good morning. host: morning. caller: i am definitely a facebook user. i believe facebook is directly spying on everybody and using our information. i think they use it for all different reasons. , theyhe previous caller force you to agree, so you can make comments to other people. granddaughter -- when i log on to facebook, they show me pictures of my son and granddaughter that i have taken the my private phone and asking me if i would like to post those.
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i think that is none of their business what kind of pictures i have in my telephone. host: two you think -- do you think they do it clear job in highlighting their privacy provisions, no matter the site, or do you investigate what a site has when it comes to privacy? caller: i investigate what the site has, to make sure we have our privacy, and they are not doing that at this point. i have deleted messenger four different times because i have bread the disclosure, but some soread the disclosure, sometimes i have to go back and retrieve messages, so i am in a battle of taking it off and putting it back on. they are sharing information with people. it is obvious to me, because when you like a page when you even talk by your phone sometimes, all of a sudden, you see ads pop up and it is creepy.
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host: if you go to the senate commerce site for that hearing, you can see what the plans are as far as he was testifying when it comes to mr. zuckerberg. the house energy and commerce committee released his testimony yesterday. released a text of it available on their website, in which he has been prepared to say -- "i direct our teams to invest so much on security, on top of other investments to make sure we impact our possibility going forward, but i want to be clear about what our priority is: protecting our community is more important than maximizing profits." that hearing will be held today at 2:15. news to go to those sites, there is a possibility about a printed copy of his comments in testimony. you can see that at 2:15. tomorrow will be the house side at the clock.
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cultural information for more information. nashville, tennessee, line for others, richie, good morning. caller: good morning. i started off with facebook when it first came out. i quickly realized that this is not for me. i see some good but for every good there is bad. i go back to my mother's years. i am 60 years old. those old party lines on the phone, you had to tell the neighbor to get off the phone to use it, and then they would sit there and use it. channels,s his gossip and this is where we are wasting our time in america. no one likes their information out there, but they are really giving it. i was in the insurance business for 40 years. i have never seen anyone read the disclosure on any insurance form, whether buying a house or car. people do not read. so we, as americans, we deserve what we get, as ironic us that
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sounds, but it is a gossip t hing and i don't see any good in it. have a good day. host: on our line for those who have facebook and want to make comments, this is matthew in alabama. a facebook user. we are asking folks about their trust of facebook with personal data. what do you think? caller: hello, how are you? about this. i am calling about the fifth amendment. this is the world wide web, it is international. can america have a fifth amendment clause on the world wide web? host: again, those are some of the variety of thoughts on the topic. we will investigate more into thinking this farm is facebook and your personal data -- more into this issue on facebook and your personal data. if you have facebook, (202)-748-8000. if you don't have facebook and
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want to give your thoughts, (202)-748-8001. the will show you some other things in the paper. out on the front page of the new york times this morning about the rating of michael cohen's office by the southern district of new york. they write that investigators subpoenaed the trump organization this year for records on business on foreign nationals and in response that they handed over documents --
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host: that is an new york times yesterday. the president himself at the photo op yesterday commented on the events of what happened with his personal lawyer. [video clip] president trump: i just heard they broke into the office of one of my personal attorneys, , and it is a disgraceful situation and a total witchhunt. i have been saying it a long time. i have been wanting to keep it down. we had given over one million pages worth of documents to the special counsel. they continue to just go forward and here we are talking about syria, a lot of serious things up the greatest fighting force of the, and i have this witchhunt constantly going on for over 12 months now, and actually, more than that.
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you could say it was after i won the nomination it started. it is a disgrace, a real disgrace. it is an attack on our country and on what we all stand for. so when i saw this and target, i heard it like you did, i said, that is now in a whole new level of unfairness. so this has been going on. i saw one of the reporters who is not necessarily a fan of mine, not necessarily very good to me. he said in effect that this is ridiculous, this is not getting ridiculous.they found no collusion whatsoever with russia . the reason they found it is there was no collusion and all. biased group of people. these people have the biggest conflicts of interest i have ever seen. all,rats, all, just about
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the democrats and republicans that worked for president obama looking at the other side. the are not looking at hillary clinton horrible things she did and all the crimes committed. they're not looking at all the things that happened that everybody is very angry about. i can tell you from the republican side, and even the independent side. the only keep looking at us. and thend no collusion they go from there and say, let's keep going, and they are rating the office of a personal attorney early in the morning. i think it is a disgrace. host: because of the comments from yesterday. the president also posting a couple of tweets this morning. one saying -- attorney-client privilege is dead. the other saying -- a total witchhunt, and that is with all caps and three exclamation points. back to our discussion as far as
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facebook and our personal data, do you trust that? from alexandria, virginia, a facebook user, andrew. hello. caller: good morning. and i amcebook user not entirely surprised that the story broke. i have seen the writing on the wall a few years. case in point, lastly, i was talking to my friend studying for the lsat. i have never looked it up or typed it into google, and now i prep.s for lsat test the fact they are taking their information or going beyond basic needs of privacy is not surprising. host: do you think that will affect people's behavior when it comes to how they use facebook or whether they will close accounts or anything? caller: certainly. this is new information to them, and i'm sure they will react with outrage and boycott.
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i have been kind of doing for years just carefully see what i put on their and nothing extra the what i would say out loud in person. host: that is andrew and virginia. from maryland, kevin, you connect. -- you are next. caller: this is kevin. my opinion is that -- of course, i use facebook. it is aon is that really touchy subject. i think it is bigger than facebook. it is social media in general. i use all the precautions they tell you, do not put anything out in the public or on facebook that you would not want people to publicly know. there is very little information you can i doubt about me on facebook. the real issue is a busy mode of communication for people. what we had done as a society is instructed a profit-seeking organization with our privacy.
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people do have a reason to privacy, even if they are using social media like facebook. interestion is, can we profit-seeking organizations, like facebook, to guard our privacy? our right to privacy in the constitution. host: is this a means for legislators to offer more regulation over the process? caller: i believe it is. we have our so-called rights in our country, so the conservative ideology on that point would be that we do not want to regulate businesses. at the same time, as i have said, facebook is more of a utility, in my opinion, then it is a profit model. at this point, we had entrusted it with certain parts of our actual human rights. at that point, i would say that
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the government should at some point step in the regulated and say, you are interested with people's privacy. media, andhave the may be dictated needs to be regulated. host: cbs news putting out a poll of their own looking at facebook data and asking people if they think it is safe. this is how they rated it. among facebook users, given to those who would not choose, 62% say that is the case. when the asked if it was safe and saved and shared with only those who used, only 37%. that is the cbs news poll. on our facebook page with a poll we are running, and you can participate in, on whether you
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think facebook data is safe. rob austin, texas, a facebook user. caller: thank you. privacy, our private information does need to be protected. aresame way as publications legally required. and there are so many young people sign up and do not realize how at risk they are putting themselves. host: when it comes to the things you put on facebook, how much data or how much personal information do you put out there and what do you think about how facebook use it? caller: ok, let's see. i put my high school, where i was born, where i went to city i, you know, the
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live in now. really -- nothing really deep. or even get on it daily weekly, talking about who i am dating. much fun the party was. people do not realize how at risk they put themselves. law enforcement so many times has used facebook to capture people who have robbed or even killed, just by looking at their facebook page. stupidf young people are and not thinking, and it could be a good tool, like help law enforcement does, but as far as people just harvesting data and try to make a dollar, and even stealing credit. people need --
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host: got you. michael in new york, a facebook user. caller: how are you? host: fine, thank you. caller: can i say one thing? we believe we are in a police state because they can get to our phones, our computers, and our problem is the only way to protect yourself is to not email -- do not a male, make your own calls -- to not email, make your own calls, keep to yourself and do not release any information. host: is that practical in this day and age? caller: yes. host: how question mark caller: you do not -- how? caller: you do not email, make necessary calls, and take every measure to protect yourself. host: you identify as a facebook user, is that the case?
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caller: i do not have a computer, but if i did, i sure as heck would not be using facebook. host: the facebook line is for facebook users. if you want to give us a call at (202)-748-8000 for users out there, all others, everybody else, (202)-748-8001. we will continue on with the calls for the next 20 minutes or so. i want to show you more news of the day. the event at the white house yesterday with the president, there is a photo today. a larger discussion before that before he commented on his lawyer was the topic of syria, especially in light of the recent attacks and retaliation use.nited states might they garnered a response from the russian foreign minister who said it was the foreign who told reporters in moscow that despite esther trump's comments last week that he wanted to withdraw syria, youoops from are seeking to entrench itself
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in the country. they are taking steps to establish a foothold in syria for a very long time. mr. trump dismissed the russian and syrian denials, saying they are not responsibility -- saying -- host: at the united nations, they held a special conference on the topic, where nikki haley not only spoke about syria but when she saw was russia's role in it. [video clip] for a year, wey have allowed russia to hold the lives of syrian people hostage in this allowed it to weaken the credibility of the united nations. weaponsuick to condemn
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in the security council but russia prevents in the action, vetoing five resolutions on the issue alone. 11 altogether to say assad. and our lives go on as usual. the council created the joint investigative mechanism. it found the syrian regime possible -- responsible for the attack when you're ago because of russia's support of assad and his actions, russia killed the mechanism. we condemned it. and our lives went on as usual. we pushed for a cease-fire. the council unanimously agreed, but it was immediately ignored i rush and decide. we condemn -- by russian and assad. we condemned it. usual.es went on as and now here we are, confronted with the consequences of giving bush a pass in the name of unity. -- giving russia a pass in the name of unity. a unity brush has shown many
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times for they do not want. host: the president saying action on syria is forthcoming. no specific plans revealed yet. shot at the white house to look at that. that is where facebook ceo mark zuckerberg will appear in the first of two hearings to talk about data practices for his website and be questioned by senators today and house members tomorrow, on how data was used, security matters, all of for discussion in the last 15 minutes of this first hour today. from maryland, or others, you are next. caller: good morning. my comment for facebook -- i am not a facebook user. i am not shocked by what is going on. privacy of ideology -- facebook is a publicly traded company. mark zuckerberg is a ceo. his number one commitment is to his stockholders.
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they will have hearings and then it will all go away. got aump supporters, who businessman would be the greatest man to run the country, ceo's primary responsibility is to return stocks, profit to stockholders, and stakeholders. host: now that mr. zuckerberg is appearing before congress, saying the company practices will change, what does that mean for the federal government with data privacy and social media? caller: well, we have seen the big banks appear with congress and it is business as usual. everybody will come, cry, kick the kleenex, and it will be business as usual.
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host: off of twitter, robbie says -- don't businesses share customer lists with other businesses? why are they so concerned about this book only? -- about facebook only? ray is next in dallas, texas, they spoke user. good morning. -- facebook user, good morning. caller: love c-span. in my opinion, i believe the question is being very strong. when it comes to advertising on facebook, the advertisers, the people physically doing the ads, they are entering in these keywords that are specific to the ads. that is why these people are seeing some ads pop-up because they used those search terms. we are really talking metadata. sellingot talking about the farmer giving not a customer's pedigree information. if, on the other hand,
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zuckerberg and company is indeed selling and peddling user information for money and profit, or he is indeed in collusion with the government, giving away in relation, unbeknownst to the users, shame on him. absolutely, we ought to be ditching facebook and other companies doing that. that is not the reason. the other lady really hit it around the head. he does have to his shareholders. but here is the thing. facebook is free. it is free to everybody. so that is the cool thing about it, but he has got to make some kind of need to keep the doors open, right?to keep the web service going and everything else. in return, they happen advertise that they get -- they have advertising that they get
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revenue from. that is how they get their money. if they are selling product data to third party companies, that is very bad. that is not good. that is wrong all over the place. if they are not doing that and they are only allowing thattisers to use keywords their ads are triggered on, everybody does that. you do it through google. everywhere and anywhere you go on the internet, everybody is doing that. oft: that is the sentiment lisa this morning -- i like my free facebook. i like my free twitter. i like my for you to. the only reason they are -- youtube. the only reason they are free is because the seller information. duh! facebook,ng on another comment saying, this is not about facebook, as much as cambridge analytica lying to users about the purpose of their
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data collection. onomment you can make facebook about facebook, but if you want to make those thoughts there, it is c-span/facebook. if you want to make bets on twitter, you can do so at --@cspanwj and on the phone lines for the remaining 12 minutes, (202)-748-8000 for facebook users. (202)-748-8001 for all others. in virginia, bob, a facebook user, it morning. caller: how are you doing? i just do not think it is that big of a deal, like the gentleman before, companies do it all the time. they gather your information and market services to what your interests are. like they are taking your social security number and hacking you. anytime you go online, you have to be aware there is a consequence that someone could get your personal information and use it maliciously. somethings doing
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maybe for political gains or and then it is up to the user to do their due diligence and look at the information given to them and figure out, is it true or not? a lot of information out there is suggestive and you have to use your own knowledge to determine that. i think this is for some type of political motivation about cambridge analytica may be benefiting the republican party or trump. a lot of companies use it for different services. host: donna of twitter says -- i just removed all of my apps connected to facebook this week. i will probably remove it also. missi w -- i will bejeweled. taking a look at deficits in the
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future, up in 2020, $1 trillion per year by 2020. jeff stein writing this morning that the tax law that president trump and congressional republicans passed in december will cut government revenue by 1.3 point -- by 1.3 trillion.
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host: jeff stein writing in the washington post this morning. in virginia, a facebook user, greg, good morning. caller: good morning. one of the things i wanted to it has gottenhat away from the notion of personal responsibility. to a large extent, if not total, you control what content, what images, and what words you are actually placing on facebook. to that extent, if you do not want certain things about yourself put in the public domain, you can refrain from doing so. the only concern that i have is the application and technology -- that might be used to integrate with other applications on your phone that access information that i might unwittingly allow facebook and their sponsors to utilize.
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that i think is problematic. to the extent they are utilizing information that i am voluntarily placing on facebook to actually enhance the user experience, i don't think i have a problem with that. quite frankly, i love receiving ads that are interesting to me, and i can choose whether or not to pay attention to it or not. that regard, facebook is basically a great source if used responsibly, and the responsibility finds its origin in the information we put out there. host: greg giving us his thoughts. don indianapolis, indiana. go ahead. caller: basically, i just wanted to say that i use facebook pretty much like most people for networking, sending -- finding schoolmates, friends, family. personally, i use it for
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expressing my political views and things of that nature. i really do not have any expectations of privacy on the have cents.ause i really, i do not use smartphones or anything that i feel like i personal information would be abated on. i don't really have problems with that. like the gentleman said before, if i did have bank accounts or i checked my phone and things of that nature, then, i would be concerned about other applications implementing that in a negative manner. personally, i really, really enjoyed able to find people that i have lost in the past, and things of that nature. i like to be able to express myself where i do not think i will be heard in any other form. host: when you put that information out there, you talk about personal protection, what
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about the fact that congress is holding hearings on this topic? what do you think the extent of the rules should be? caller: just making sure they have the same due diligence to make sure the american public is four --y safe from foreign entities or any others that may want to do harm. host: in the washington examiner, they take a profiled look at the latest supreme court neil gorsuch at one year, melissa quinn writing, saying" read several people talking about the justices first year, saying trump made a promise to appoint someone for justice scalia, and that is what he did. all of those principles he talked about --
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host: that is from the washington examiner. from maxwell in maryland, a facebook user. good morning. caller: thank you for c-span. i want to talk about
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[indiscernible] example, when he went to he merited the president who has killed more people. host: let me stop you because we are dealing with facebook and the personal data. caller: this is what i want to peoplethat [indiscernible] he started deleting people's facebook. him withafter seeing an amount of money spent in the country. host: bruce from maryland.
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-- michigan, a facebook user. go ahead. caller: i -- privacy is an issue. i think the biggest thing though is i have been using facebook for over 10 years. of anti-globalist ideas, like people that do not want more immigration, people that do not want their gun rights taken away, they are censoring this, so it has been a 14 year bait and switch since facebook started and it has only been the last two years that they are censoring non-globalist articles, and i think this is really -- this is like the first amendment was the first for a reason. burningare seeing is the library of alexandria down.
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if we do not have free speech in this country, we have a big problem. host: that is bruce in michigan. one more story from miami herald when it comes to the florida senate race out of orlando saying, it will not be the country's most expensive midterm election, governor scott announced to challenge governor bill nelson. host: that is it for this first hour. our next guest is off the rondo coupler, too -- ron kepler,
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taking a look at his book on the trump white house. we will have a discussion on that book and the content, next. later, another look at the trump presidency with michael kirk and the frontline ♪ this week, facebook ceo mark zuckerberg will testify before senate and house committees on facebook's handling of user information and data privacy. today at 2:15 p.m. eastern on c-span3, he will answer questions during a joint senate judiciary and commerce hearing. c-span3, he will appear before the house energy and commerce committee. watch live coverage on c-span3 and c-span.org and listen live with the free c-span radio
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app. we are iny morning, carson city, nevada for the next stop on the c-span bus 50 capital store. governor bran sandoval will be our guest on the bus thursday morning on "washington journal." >> c-span -- where history unfolds daily. as a79, c-span was created public service by america's cable television companies. and today, we continue to bring you unfiltered coverage of congress, the white house, the supreme court, and public policy events in washington, d.c. and around the country. c-span is brought to you by your cable or settlement provider. -- satellite provider. announcer: "washington journal" continues. host: ronald kessler joining us about his latest book, "the trump white house: changing the rules of the game." guest: good to be here.
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host: talk about the rules that are in place and what donald trump has brought as far as change. guest: he is changing almost everything. he is standing up to countries like syria by sending missiles in. he is the regulating some of the stock market that's been booming. the unemployment rate is at record low levels, including the black unemployment rate. he has gone after isis and removed the shackles on the military to almost totally destroyed isis. he got saudi arabia to go after radical islamic terrorism. picture,ok at the big it is very, very impressive. it will be seen as one of the greatest presidencies, just like reagan who was vilified by the media, but got rid of the soviet union and the economy going. the book is a truthful account that tells it like it is. it has lots of negative items, juicy tidbits, and it explains
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who this guy is. that is the hardest task of all as you can imagine. host: you wrote this thing, but beyond the outrageous comments and tweeting, there was another story the media largely ignored -- sleeping presence o presidenl action that was indeed making america great again. never before has an american president had so much impact on the country and the world in such a short time as donald trump. can you write that objectively? guest: there are few honest journalists left anymore. this is the first truthful book on trump and his presidency unlike the novel like the michael wolff book, which was so much fiction. melania was in tears on election night. donald never wanted to be president. it's just absurd. what this book is tells you new items that you never knew about trump. he does not want anybody to know. he likes to have a mask over his
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face and project his tough guy image. for example, the fact that he hands up hundred dollar bills to janitors when they move furniture, he doesn't want people to know about that. and the only interview he has given for a book, i asked him about that. he said obfuscated. where did you hear about that? he cannot stand have anything personal out, the same with the fact that maloney is a very -- melania trump is a very powerful force. she sits in on meetings and contributes strategy. it never came out before. again she is derided in the press as a fool an idiot even though she speaks six linkages. -- six languages. i separate the myth from the reality. host: how long have you know president trump? guest: melania trump for two
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decades. my wife was also a "washington post" reported. r. i had a drink champagne and go to more parties. he had the bluebloods condemn cg his club because it admits blacks and jews. there are some clubs that do not admit blacks and jews. he said i love sticking it to them. , but he to beloved enjoys sticking it to anybody who gets in his way. host: what other sources do you have within the white house for this book? guest: we really had unprecedented access if you combine interview, what she has never done for a book, knowing him for two decades and interviewing a lot of the key people in the oval office. you can see many of them on the record and others are not.
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it is the real story. i think people will be amazed to find the real truth about things. one amazing thing is just the "washington post" story of august 14 last year that quoted emails turned over by the white house to congressional committees in which paul manafort, the campaign chairman, says we don't want to go to russia. we have to warn trump not to do anything with russia. his deputy says the same thing. manafort assigned someone to make sure no one follows up on this proposal by george papadopoulos to meet with russian leaders. what more do you need to know about russia and collusion? at the same time, i take the side of the fbi on some issues. for example, why hillary was not indicted. i explained why the law would not support that unless there was a real show of criminal intent. not major?case was
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guest: that's right. there was no evidence of criminal intent as there was with other people where the fbi was able to charge them with lying to the fbi and therefore show criminal intent. host: our guest will be with us for the half-hour if you want to ask questions about the book and the things he found out in interviewing president trump and other people. (202) 748-8001 for republicans, (202) 748-8000 for democrats, (202) 748-8002 for independents. you talked about those two faces of donald trump/ talk about. . talk about the public face and his style of management with how he conducts the white house and his advisers. how would you describe that? guest: he is his own chief of staff and constantly canvasses people for opinions with his advisors and a dozen friends, most of them billionaires, along
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with chambermaid and secret service agents. there's a reason why the working-class voted for him and they appreciate his common sense -- he appreciates their common sense. trying to pigeonhole great influence israel fruitless -- israel fruitless. there was a top aide to trump for years. when she joined the organization, their only seven other employees. she said there are two donald trump's -- the one you see on tv who makes outrageous comments for his brand and then there's the real donald that only insiders know that is just opposite. he is thoughtful and listens and careful when he makes decisions. he did not build this empire with billions of dollars by being a fool, idiot, or bigot. host: what is the take away of the rash of people leaving the white house? you talk about reince priebus, steve bannon.
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some days he's ok with jeff sessions and other days he criticizes jeff sessions. how do you explain how the white house is conducted? guest: i explained my sessions is doing a great job. trump has a habit of just blowing up what he does not like something. one example is when back at maryland martha -- mar-a-lago martha stewart showed up and the butler opened the door and she said, can i take a tour of mar-a-lago? he said we will set it up for 3:00 tomorrow. donald said fine. later in the day, trump was in the private quarters and tony check with him to see if there was anything he needs. him,started screaming at you son of a bitch, you should've scheduled it for noon tomorrow. the club members would see martha. melania trump walked in and said i do not think you should be
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talking to tony and that tone. she will disagree with trump and provide her wisdom. nothing more was said. the next morning, they were both in the living room of mar-a-lago. cash handed tony $2000 in in $20 bills. that was his apology. i asked him was of that strange that he offered the money and $20 bills? tony said everything about mr. trump is strange. host: the book is "the trump white house: changing the rules of the game." our first call comes from earl in arlington, texas. you are on withdrawal kessler. -- with ronald kessler. caller: there is not one executive order or bill targeting african-american unemployment rate. number 2 -- he himself referred to the unemployment rate as a
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con during the obama administration. and has not been calculated any different. it's a different standard -- double standard. he did not destroy isis. he had nothing to do with that. it was sheer timing and will of the people to get rid of isis. policy that hey changed for the military that has changed the rules of engagement? i would like to hear your answer. guest: first of all, on the unemployment rate, the reason that it is at historic lows, lower than any point in recorded history, is that trump is deregulating. -- excuse me -- ceos feel they can expand and hire more people. that is also why the stock market is up 40% since the election. a lot of this is psychological.
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people feel they can invest. businesses are not going to be demonized the way they were under obama. details ofhe military engagement and how he removed restrictions, that is in the book. i quote people like h.r. mcmaster, who i interviewed. you can either believe that or not. people just have blinders on. they can't possibly comprehend that this person who does make outrageous comments and certainly does make up stories could actually produce solid results, but the results are very obvious if you read the newspapers. host: rhonda from new jersey, democrats line. you are on with ronald kessler. caller: good morning, america. boy, do i love my country. im just calling to say that want to give a shout out to
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melania trump for rising above all the gossip in the media. and i really wish we would cut this out. i'm so sick of mueller. i'm tired of them overwhelming our president when we have so much to do to fix in this country. i am angry at paul ryan and mitch mcconnell for not coming out and assisting this man in the most powerful office in the world. and they are totally silent. it's enough. you know the people in the south don't know trump. we in new jersey and the new york area always knew trump. he was always a playboy when he was a younger man. but this man is a genius. to put a vision forward for this country to
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rebuild our infrastructure, no one will ever be able to even come near the united states. host: rhonda, thank you. guest: you mentioned m ueller. that was a result of jared urging him toanka fire jim comey as fbi director. that led to the appointment of the special counsel. when i interviewed trump at maryland go, he asked me when i think of mueller. i interviewed him many times and wrote books on the fbi that led to the this missile of william sessions over abuses. i said he is a man of integrity. that is why we have not had a successful foreign terror attack and he appreciated that. behind the scenes, he actually does listen and is totally call and in command.
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er.t is my take on muell i think eventually he is going to finish his investigation. i think he is wrapping it up and he is going to find no collusion as i cited that "washington post" story. the campaign wanted nothing to do with russia. host: the fbi's action with michael cohen and attorney-client privileges, what is the case there? guest: i think there is something there. white house aids have never been cohen.ed by michael they feel he is an embarrassment when he gets on tv and starts aggressively attacking the host. this is obviously a separate investigation and was approved by the acting u.s. attorney in new york, who was a trump appointee. sessions is a trump appointee. it is very hard to turn that around and assume this is some kind of witchhunt. certainly there is a witchhunt against trump in the media in general.
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i've been interviewed by mainstream reporters for this book and they just can't contain themselves. they have to snicker and make derisive comments whenever i say anything positive about trump. that is their way of communicating. host: the caller had brought up his playboy past -- that's what she used. stormylking about daniels, are those things to be explored or is that a distraction in your mind? guest: it's obviously a story. it's important to keep in mind that these activities occurred more than 10 years ago. trump has gotten older as we all have and hopefully wiser. we have not heard anything in over a decade about any activities like that. when you see melania and trump together like i've seen them many times together in maryland go, there no way they can cover up a bad relationship. they have intense conversations
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and discussions. my wife and i saw them at mayor law go before new year's eve -- before newlago year's eve and they laughed and teased with each other. it was very, very charming. host: from conover, north carolina, brad, go ahead. caller: i was just wanting to know why trump made fun of a handicap guy, what he belittled john mccain, why he stern y hishoward vietnam was not trying to catch an std when he got deferments. sure he should hand out hundred dollar bills to the janitor because he is caught a lot of people out of money. why can't you get a load of the u.s.? why does he have to go to deutsche bank or something like that to get a loan?
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he's a phony. he is not like you said. he is probably not worth $11 billion like he says. he might not even be worth $1 billion. guest: some of those comments make me cringe. i've not met a trump supporter who does not say the same thing. his shtick tofis get publicity. he wrote even bad publicity is good because it draws attention to me. that's the way he operates. host: has donald trump been aware about his actions and what it does to the office of the presidency overall? guest: interesting question. he is obviously not concerned about that. he is more concerned about results. that i think is what he will be remembered for. decades from now we will not remember the tweets or the comments that make us cringe. we will remember the effect of
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the tax cuts and boosting the economy, the stock market, getting rid of isis, safer america, and that's the way presidents are remembered. the same with reagan. totally made fun of by the media. years later, it a lot of top media people admitted they were wrong about him. a gallup poll found that he was the greatest yes president -- u.s. president according to this particular poll. host: sheila is in rockaway, new york. caller: how are you this morning? host: fine, go ahead. caller: always interesting conversations going on here. the statement he made about him bringing up the employment of african-americans, that was happening already. deregulating did not make that happen. you do not even know what they deregulated. and you are a friend, a very good friend of his, so there is
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bias with everyone. everything you are saying about him is good and you make the comments about president obama like he did not do anything. he got two wars, housing collapse, wall street falling, people losing jobs before with president bush. it took him eight years against the congress that never even helped him and he walked into a situation that was already rising. host: thanks, sheila. guest: if you read the book, you see that even though i am a friend of trump, i acted as a journalist because over and over again i have criticism and negative items. there is no way that i was trying to do a puff piece. by definition, if off piece has to have everything positive -- a puff piece has to have everything positive. employment rate is unprecedented so even if there was improvement under obama and down dips, never
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before in recorded history has the unemployment rate been this low. those are real facts. i think over time people will start to recognize that this economy is great. we have jobs. we are safer. and they will start to recognize that trump really has brought results. host: republican line from kentucky, dan, go ahead. caller: i hope you mentioned the becausele a few times sometimes i miss the title of the book so i don't know what the title of the books are. always wanted to know how he felt about the investigation. you said you cringe a while ago when you hear democrats call and complain and whine and all that. i don't cringe. i call it the comedy line. it really cracks me up.
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aboutust like talking passing a bill in the senate. they hold the majority. you have got 51 votes and they still need nine. unless the democrats get on board to help them out, it's not like he's got the house -- i mean, the senate. that is why i don't cringe when they call and complain and whine. i kind of laugh about it. it's like the comedy line. if they get on board and help him, he could be the best president of the century. we have already seen the worst. host: has the president said anything in interviews or do you ask anybody about the upcoming midterm elections and what it might do for the remainder of his term? guest: i did not get into that with trump. certainly he believes he's going to be reelected. again, the economy is number one when it comes to be election. the polls had constantly
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underestimated his support. i think he will win. mail"icted in a "daily article in 2016 that he would win the presidency before he was nominated. i think i have a pretty good ability to see around corners. host: you also mentioned the interview you did at mar-a-lago. the president called the molar investigation a hoax. did he talk about that? guest: i asked him why he got so agitated about this investigation. he said there's nothing there. he said i just want the truth. i think part of his reaction is again staging. he wants to be the center of the controversy. that enhances his power. if he is the number one topic of conversation everyday and the number one topic in the media, foreign leaders want to meet with him and kowtow to him. you see the result with north
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korea and his threats. he is using the care and a stick and that's what he's doing with putin and the chinese leader, who just voted for sanctions against north korea and the u.n. for the first time. now he is starting to say that he may reduce tariffs on auto imports. already trumps threats are paying off. you really have to use your intellectual prowess to separate in your mind what is going on here. the results versus some of the noise that is upsetting from time to time. host: here is steve in ohio on independent line. caller: thank you for taking my call. i think people really don't understand his thought process. how you evaluate his thought process from the standpoint of political versus nonpolitical, marshall versus logical -- emotional versus logical and the
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very space that go into his iscess and a thing that he data-driven versus non-data-driven? guest: he is always counterpunching and bobbing and weaving. he's unpredictable. that keeps people fixated on him just as they were in "the apprentice." that is the way he operates. host: (202) 748-8001 for republicans, (202) 748-8000 for democrats, and (202) 748-8002 for independents. you conceptus tweets at c-span wj. onyou want to make comments our facebook page, that is facebook.com/c-span. from virginia, this is cheryl. first, 45 trump was not elected. he was chosen. two, he needs good pr. yes, he is not all bad. there are great points that he has.
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he needs a good public relations. he needs to improve on his appearance and overall acceptance by people. that way people would be more accepting of those good points that he has. let's start with taxes. the first thing he should do is release his taxes. he is not a billionaire. he will be by the time he leaves office though. that speaking of all this trillion dollar budget, he needs to ensure that he and his name is not associated with any contracts or business dealings as a result of this budget. remember honesty. people do not trust him. host: ok, thanks. guest: on his net worth, "forbes" is a very intensive listing of the net worth of the top billionaires. trump does release his internal figures to "forbes" when they do their accounting. they are very tough and they do
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list him as having over $3 billion in net worth. all you have to do is look at his buildings. they exist. he obviously built them with some money. a lot of these things are so obvious just like michael wolff claim that trump did not want to be president. he looked like a ghost on election night. melania did not want him to run even though she was the one who urged him to run and she was in tears on election night. all you have to do is look at the tv. when the book says that he cannot remember anything, all you have to do is watch them on tv when he is in a conference. he remembers everything that he needs to remember. host: i was reading in your book about his relationship with the media about how he loads them and depends on the. he even calls directly to talk to reporters. what way does he communicate with the media and how does that compare to the face of him attacking the media? guest: occasionally every few
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weeks, he will call a reporter that he likes, such as maggie haberman at "the new york times." maybe he is wised up to that by now. he will frequently have these conversations attributed to a source in the white house. enhances the importance of these stories. at the same time, it creates the impression that there are more leaks in the white house that there already are. that's not very good. in the book i said that kellyanne conway is the number one leaker in the white house. when i interviewed her at the white house and it was recorded, she apparently forgot that she was on the record. she started lambasting reince priebus, jared and ivanka, calling them leakers and things that were obviously untrue. whoso interviewed aides have seen text messages from her to reporters leaking material.
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host: she pushed back against that. guest: she did not deny it. she said i was friends with jared and ivanka. she knows it was on digital recording. that again is harmful because it undermines his agenda to have these leaks and criticism of other aides. host: from cindy in washington state, go ahead. caller: i just wanted to thank you for writing such an honest book about the president. can't wait to read it. i wanted to say that i want to read the book that sounds really good. qanon ont to 4chan. i really appreciate it. host: with this book completed and how things change so fast in the white house, how do you follow up on it? guest: there was a review over
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the weekend that was very favorable and said it's a trustworthy book. and missed the point. it said this is a history, but no, the book is really meant to explain this guy for a long period time. it is not dependent on the latest development in the news. it goes into all his policies and explains them and the negative aspects as well and really trust the flesh out with anecdotes, such as a mentioned with melania and tony the butler, just tell you things and operates and how he makes decisions, why he chose one person or another person, and so i think it's a book that is going to be lasting. host: "the trump white house: changing the rules of the game" by author ronald kessler. . thank you for your time. we will get another perspective from the pbs "frontline" documentarian michael kirk.
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we will have that conversation next. nasa plans to launch a new satellite. martin still, one of the missions mean scientists, will join us for that conversation. this as "washington journal" continues. ♪ >> monday on "late landmark cases," brandenburg v. ohio. brandenburg was convicted of hate speech under an ohio law, but the supreme court unanimously ruled that state law violated his first amendment rights. joining us to discuss the case is the former head of the aclu and law professor at new york law school in manhattan and katie fowler, a senior attorney at: bill universities night first amendment institute. watch "landmark cases" monday and join the conversation. cases.htag is landmark
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we have resources on her website for background on each case, the landmark cases companion book, a link to the national constitution center's interactive constitution, and the land mark cases podcast at c-span.org/landmark cases. this week, facebook ceo mark zuckerberg will testify before senate and house committees on facebook's handling of user information and data privacy. today at 2:15 p.m. eastern on c-span3, he will answer questions during a joint senate judiciary and commerce committee. that on wednesday, he will answer questions during a house energy and commerce committee. and onive on c-span3 c-span.org and listen free on the c-span radio app. announcer: "washington journal" continues. host: joining us from boston is
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pbs "frontline" documentarian k to talk about his latest project. good morning to you. guest: good morning. host: it is called "trump's takeover." can you give us a sense of the word your tried to imply by the word takeover? guest: it is the current republican party in washington versus the donald trump. it is what he did and they did over the year beginning in the summer of 2016 when they really do not understand who donald trump was. they did not feel like he cared because they did not believe he would win. from that moment until the ceremony at the white house on december 20 after the tax cut is passed and they are all praising him, the astonishing difference between how they felt about him
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at the beginning and how they felt about him at the end of his first year is what the film is about. host: give us a sense than exactly how they did feel about him at the beginning and the end and why that changed. guest: at the very beginning, as i said, i don't think they expected him to win. i don't think they felt they needed to spend any time at all. trump comes to washington in july for a kind of victory lap as the presumptive nominee of the party. he goes to the rnc and meets with some members of congress and has lunch with members of the united states senate, most of whom are at arms length from him. hadf the best and brightest been fighting with trump all the way across the primary season. one particular senator, jeff flake, is singled out by donald trump, who looks him in the eye and says i know you. you are the guy from arizona. be set some bad things about me.
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, i'm thes i'm the guy senator from arizona that was not captured, referring to the moment when donald trump in 2015 sets of nasty things about senator john mccain and whether he was a hero because he had been captured in the amount and held prisoner -- vietnam and held prisoner. that began a struggle that would last the entire year between jeff flake and donald trump. who steppednators back and watched it. decisions had to be made about how they would handle him. from the very beginning, they did not expect him to win. afterhow did it play out he wins election and perfectly as he tries to get an agenda and he needs republicans to get on board to make that agenda happen? guest: they have two minds about .t could lea
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leader mitch mcconnell of the senate and paul ryan of the house, they are the people closest to him. they were willing to work with hillary and thought this is what we will have. we will have a job own and go back and forth over policy. when trump wins the presidency, they have a unified government, but they have a man in the white house. they're not sure who he is. is he an independent? is he really a republican? what kind of republican? he's a complete novice in terms of the legislative process. ryan takes the first shot and decides the first thing they should do is offer him as corey lewandowski tells us in the film. he thought his agenda would be easy pc, lemon squeezey. they walked out to the white house and ryan has a plan that says we will repeal and replace
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obamacare probably by easter. then we will get you a tax cut and then we will do the infrastructure bill by the end of the year. you will be the most productive president ever. trump, who goes along with that apparently, says that's fabulous. let's do it. he's believing appropriately that the republicans that had 7.5 years of anger to talk about obamacare and the ability to repeal it. he sits and waits. they essentially tell him we will need you maybe for some cheerleading, but if you just step back, we will get this done. people we talked to who are very close to ryan said what ryan really wanted and what mcconnell would ultimately want is a pen in the white house. they did not expect a president that would roll up his sleeves and get to policy or ideology for that matter. they were very surprised about what happened with that repeal and replace bill as it started
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to move its way through congress and so was trump. host: documentary filmmaker rk joining us about "trump's takeover." if you want to ask questions about tow trucks relationship with the republican party, (202) 748-8001, (202) 748-8000, and (202) 748-8002. let us show you a bit of that documentary. you heard our guest talk about the events leading up to the attempts to repeal obama care. president'sbout the relationship with the senate majority leader after that failed attempt. here's a bit of the documentary. [video clip] >> what good is the republican party if it cannot pass the things that they promise to pass for seven years anyway? >> they were trying to work with the parties leaders. now he would strike out at them. as weapon of choice -- twitter. >> you can thank congress, the same people that cannot give us
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h care. >> he went after congressional republicans, especially mitch mcconnell. >> senator mcconnell said i had excessive expectations. i don't think so. why not done? >> the president's frustration was not subtle, particular toward mitch mcconnell. think he saw him as a failure. >> can you believe that mitch mcconnell, who has screamed repeal and replace for seven years, could not get it done? >> trump was using them as powerful weapon he has, which is twitter, to humiliate him repeatedly, raychem over the coals, let his followers know that this is mitch mcconnell's fault. he failed you, not me. >> mitch, get back to work and put repeal and replace, tax reform and cuts, and a great infrastructure will on my desk for signing. >> he is feeding hostility toward congress. and netsuite storm galvanized -- that tweet storm galvanized
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trump voters to turn against congress in a way i've never seen a governing party supporters engage in. >> on the telephone, trump and mcconnell had a doubt. >> they get into a screaming match. mitch mcconnell rarely raises his voice. trump is using all manners of expletives to criticize mitch mcconnell. mcconnell is giving it back to the present. its extraordinary. >> as the feud group, he came out of his country club and fanned the flames. >> i said, mitch, get to work and let's get it done. they should of had this last one done. they lost by one vote. >> how does undermining your senate majority leader make you any more powerful, any more successful? how does having a battle with the person who has to somehow manage the arcane rules and regulations of the senate and you are undercutting him everyday? i don't get it. >> the call between the two men
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erupted. >> the president and the majority leader would not speak to each other for weeks. host: does that nature of the relationship change? does that set the tone as far as where republicans and president trump stand today? guest: i think so in some ways. donald trumpso was doing what donald trump does. i don't think anybody expected him to break the rules as much as he did in terms of the core of and -- d corum and response. after john mccain did the thumbs down about repeal and replace, i think trump realized that legislation and the maneuvering of congress was not history. he was going to move toward the cultural side and that is where the power was for him. he was not going to get into a tit-for-tat with members of congress and it takes a while for the to realize it. cataclysm, the
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charlottesville moment, or 35 members of the senate and house right text messages and tweets back and forth to the president. the relationship falls to a low trump is doing what eric cantor tells us in the beginning of the film, which is this is a guy who was elected by his base and others to come to washington and grab it by the lapels and shake it. what you just listen to and watched on our film tonight is that. it is trump shaking washington by the lapels. , the venerable mitch mcconnell, he is sending a message to establishment republicans that the rules of the game have changed. that is what i think we saw and that is a big turning point for his relationship with the republican party.
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host: if you go to the pbs website, you can find out more about tonight's airing of "trump's takeover." terry from florida, you're up first for our guest. go ahead. caller: good morning and thank you for taking my call. i will get straight to it. and your documentary, will it be lies thatbout the president trump has told the american people? also, mr. kessler, the speaker , he admitted that president trump makes up things. , would you say that president trump lies to the american people? host: go ahead. guest: i don't think there's enough in the film for you to
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make a judgment about that yourself. i do put as much as i can from trump and from others who really understand the washington scene for you to see across an entire year. depth and it's my fervent hope that you will watch it and decide what is true and what is false and what matters and what doesn't matter. most importantly, what's happening with the government in washington as the president is determined to drain the swamp and what some people call the swamp creatures are fighting back. what some people call the republican establishment flees the scene right now. more than three dozen people are you backing their jobs in congress and the senate as we
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approach the midterm election year in the first year of the donald trump presidency. things are being shaken up. he understands something about the base out there and what he needs to say to them and how they will react with the lies and truth. he knows about the game that he is playing and you will see the consequences of that in our film. host: tom is in duluth, minnesota. caller: i have another comment and someone said trump is playing a game. this is not a game. this is our present. president. it's his lack of morals and fairness that is kind of scary. follow myran and i president into war. i really great concerns that this man does things as a game. guest: you can decide that for
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yourself tonight. washington,that in what he does, what he's doing has been dramatically underestimated and exaggerated at the same time. you will see what i mean. the conventional wisdom about the way traditional republicans, establishment republicans, powerful republicans thought he would act is that he would pivot at the very beating -- beginning of his administration. they did not know his inauguration address would be quite so aimed at them. i think they do now understand and have learned over the last is inust how intense this the demonstration projects that he rolls out, including the tweet storm about mitch mcconnell and the congress and
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what the impact of that is and how he plays that. i think those things are important for people to begin to understand, especially if he can step back a minute and take a view of the entire year and see what exactly happened. host: from maryland, william on the independent line. caller: good morning and thank you for taking my call. have a question for the gentleman about the movie. this, -- out of all these, do not think that trump is playing his personal agenda? he is doing everything to help himself and his followers. as followers are not even going to benefit from it. it looks like everything he does is for his own gain. he does not care about america. that is my point of view. what do you think about that? guest: obviously i can't get inside his head so i don't really know what his deepest thoughts are.
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i do know that he understands something about an anger and a fear in a certain percentage of the population. i don't know how to put a number on it, but it's anywhere from 25% to 40% of the people who crusade with him. i know that he has done things and does things that some people whoe talked to in congress said it really feels like he's not ideological. doctrine. he does not have policy imperatives forcing him to do things. to their perspective and some of these are the people leaving washington now, they felt like what was really all about is getting along with him. the way to get along with him is so he did not primary you or tweet about you are come after
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you and attack you was to swear loyalty and allegiance to him. that is really what motivates him. there are others, of course, especially those close to him like kellyanne conway, corey lewandowski, sean spicer, and others, who say that's wrong. this is a guy who has a deep policy interest in what he calls taking care of the forgotten. that is something i hope you will have enough information that when you see the film tonight you can decide where he stands on that. it is very hard to get inside the head of donald trump for all these reasons. documentary highlights those moments of getting along with congressional republicans, particularly with the passage of the tax bill. here's a bit of that. [video clip] >> they finally passed the tax cut bill. less because of donald trump but more because republicans recognize we have got to have a couple smit next year -- a
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compliment next year. we cannot go into the midterms with anything besides whatever the latest dump truck controversy is. -- donald trump controversy is. >> you have not heard this expression, but we are making america great again. you haven't heard that? >> one by one, congressional leaders came forward to praise president trump. >> mitch, how about you start it? [applause] >> let me just say, mr. president, you made the case for the tax bill, but this has been a year of extraordinary a couple cements for the trump administration -- a couple ccomplishments. you have ended the overregulation of the market economy. thank you, mr. president, for what you are doing. >> donald trump is the leader of
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our country both politically and from a legislative side of things. i think they have learned that over the last year. >> something this big could not have been done without the exquisite presidential leadership. mr. president, thank you for giving us over the finish line. thank you for getting us where we are. >> old be able to go home and campaign and 2018 fulfilling a pledge. i have lowered your taxes. and that is a fundamental republican promise and they fulfilled it. man standing with the president who equated white supremacists to civil rights marchers? that is the price to pay. host: speaking glowing terms there. point toens at that where we are at now? guest: with the looming midterm elections in november, the fear
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that somehow one of the unexpected consequences of his actions has been an invigoration. nobody knows for sure. an invigoration of the democratic base. the town hall meetings after the andage of the house bill the repeal or replace of obamacare, those town meetings t like theful lock creation of the tea party meetings in the summer of 2009. there is this question, this looming concern in washington and by republicans that the blue wave tsunami may be coming. if that is true, many of them have made the calculation that the safest place to be is under the shelter of donald trump and donald trump space, especially
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when it comes to their reelection prospects in the future. if he does not have coattails and if this will not actually wavethe so-called blue from the democrats, then i think all bets are off again for donald trump in washington. that is certainly what people tell us. host: from indiana, eddie, your next. caller: good morning. thank you very much for c-span. i have a couple of comments and questions. mitch mcconnell spent i don't know how long -- eight or nine years trying to get rid of president obama? wanting to make him a one term president. i honestly believed he is trying to do this to president trump. paul ryan is a very poor excuse for what he is. my main question for this man is in order to drain the swamp, what the republican and
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democratic parties of the house and senate have to be the people who pass the rule so that they can only have term limits? i believe our president is on the right road. they say he is lying. that's what your house and senate does. they lie all the time. themselvesarties have to be the people who brings it up to get the term limits to drain the swamp? host: got it. thank you. guest: you can make the argument that the small is being drained de facto without any rules or regulations. you can look at vacancies around the federal government, the admin straight of state that steve bannon talked about -- administrative state that steve bannon talked about. it smaller in some ways. the lack of regulation and lots of areas seems to be the rules and the way things are operating. look at the epa.
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different things like that are happening on the president trump's watch. if you are a member of the base or a certain kind of republican coming might be a plotting that -- republican coming you might applauding that drain swamping, including paul ryan and perhaps leader mcconnell. it's a very different place when somebody likes jeff flake, who came to be in 2000 to the congress along with mike pence , is really hard right about so much of the government and the size of government and some new things they went after. flick feels and he told us in the film that he does not feel there is any room for him in this republican party with this president in charge. it might be draining that might be happening. that sound might be the giant
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sucking sound of establishment republicans fleeing washington -- whatword now called are now called the steps of republicans in a different kind f candidate and a different idea of what is the ideology of the republican party may be replacing them. host: but given joyce in florida, independent line. -- let's go to joyce in florida, independent line. caller: i have a question about your previous guest tried to normalize trump in such logical and intellectual ways and saying that he understands anger. we all understand anger. he is playing to anger. host: you are on with our current guest. could you direct the question because we are almost out of time? caller: i would just ask them how he feels this compares to a hitler's germany.
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is this the beginning of hitler's germany? host: thanks, caller. guest: i cannot go there, joyce. host: let's go to rose from nashville, tennessee, republican line. caller: good morning, gentlemen. how are you? host: fine, go ahead. caller: i have a couple of comments. the establishment republicans still hate donald trump. sen. corker: tennessee is not running. from tennesseeer is not running. he is not running because of public comments he made about our president. we also voted for senator corker. he felt the ire of tennessee voters and that is why he decided he was not going to run again. mitch mcconnell and the senate and the house have been against donald trump from the very beginning.
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they all jumped on board about the special prosecutor over this fake russian deal. mitch mcconnell make sure every time the senate goes into recess that he does a pro forma so president trump cannot make any recess appointments. it goes on and on. they may smile over the tax reform bill, but we also remember that they tried all those years to repeal obama care . when it came down to the nitty-gritty, john mccain had a personal vendetta and voted no. host: got you. thanks. guest: fascinating caller and think you very much. you are an example of the division in the country now. it is profound. i think there are people in washington who feel they that donald trump
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exacerbates it and those are his politics. this has been going on long before donald trump got here. he may be the first president who decided to capitalize on it. you will see a bit of that in the program tonight. i hope the information will help you judge for yourself what's going on. host: let's go for one more call. go right ahead. caller: good morning, gentler. good morning, mr. kirk. i appreciate you so much because you're dealing solely in fact oids. compared to the gentleman on prior to you, it is mind-boggling. tolow americans forgot listen and deal with facts only. you put your finger right there on the point for trump. he's a capitalistic president.
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that is who and what he represents. [laughter] pruitt, i amtt from oklahoma and have personal experience. i called the fbi on him. host: we have to leave it there . anything on that? guest: thank you. [laughter] host: what did you walk away with learning going away from it? guest: almost none of us, especially none of us in the press for watching all the time really understand or understood at the beginning who donald trump was and where the power resides and just what he understands, which is how is going to handle it. now the republicans understand it. certainly i know american journalism, the series parts of american journalism, understand it. we are evaluating this president
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in journalistic terms and i think voters in electoral terms and different way, not quite so hysterically maybe for voters. maybe when you take a big long look at it like we have tried to do, you will come away understanding what is going on a little better than if you just follow the daily bright shiny andcts thrust before you cause you either great anxiety are great hope. it is not as simple as that . i hope we have added a little bit to the understanding. host: that documentary is called "trump's takeover" and its airing on pbs. index project deals with senator john mccain. -- your next project deals with senator john mccain. have you talked with him about brain cancer? guest: we've not talked about the subject of the film.
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we had footage that would shot with everybody close to circumstances and how we came to versus mp reestablishment party and where john mccain fits in and has fit the beginning back into the '70s and '80s. hour.a fascinating somebody who saw the film said to us, this is the last of a republican who is still standing, i think that is a fair assessment of who john mccain is right now. host: thank you for your time. guest: you're welcome. program, ng up on the we're going to have a discussion with nasa scientist martin still agency's latest mission in the search for earth-like planets, that on ersation coming up next "washington journal."
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our place within it. more specifically, tess is mit, ered between nasa and find, ital atk, to discover and characterize those orbit other stars, but are also nearest to us galaxy.ur our planetary neighbors, if you like. things, a lot of other or missions in the past looked at stars, looking for planets, the is specific about planets with tess? guest: it's a good question. we're on a journey right now, the mission that you're probably keplertis to is called till operating, has been since 2009. befo was launched we didn't know how common stars were. kepler to launch determine that. the answer was, they are everywhere.
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it would be unusual for a star host a planet. that allowed us to develop and whose purpose is to find those planets which are close by. is that kepler found many thousands, they are incredibly ay away, difficult to then follow-up with other telescopes, either from ground or in space, to characterize them further. surfaces?ve solid are they small like the earth? and large like jupiter? do they have atmosphere? those atmospheres? can we find molecules that we're familiar with, water, oxygen, carbon dioxide? the things we find in our atmosphere we are familiar with. and can be biosignatures, markers of life. those tess won't find signatures, but it will find hose planets which are nearby
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and therefore those stars are in the sky t stars and those are much easier to follow-up with other telescopes aspects,rmine the other to characterize planets and determine more information about them. host: more about the mission and the purpose with our guest as we go along. questions, to ask it's 202-748-8000 for those in the eastern and central time zones. 202-748-8001 for those of you in the mountain and pacific time zones. questions at us c-span wj. we've been showing the folks tess er animations of how works. give us a rundown of what appens once satellite is launched? exciting, welite is are ramping up for launch on monday the 16th, live on t.v. launch on a space xexciting, we are ramping on two nd it will be stage rocket, the first stage will get it into low orbit.
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reaches, once it gets cross the atlantic ocean above africa, fire second stage and go on the way to the moon, where it maneuvers around the moon, find itself in stable orbit, do a dance with the moon the rest of its operating lifetime. the moon will stabilize orsit of the spacecraft to stare at the ocation for long duration to find planets and also operate hopefully for many, many years amount of ng a large consumable fuel. itself, whattellite is it comp prized of? cameras? guest: four cameras, identical and small. hand, each one in your you can cradle it. size isn't important here, we're brightest stars in the sky, looking in a slightly ifferent location, they are identical, they will be collecting same data from
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and over directions two year primary operation, it whole nitor 85% of the sky. it will be looking for planets the majority of bright stars, almost all-sky survey over couple years. if you can explain, how does it know or how will scientists know if they found a planet that might find signs of you are looking. guest: tess won't be able to do it on its own. tess will find planets nearby, and d the brightest stars therefore, you can follow-up telescopes. an example would be the james webb space telescope we are aunching in 2020, suite of instrumentation on board, including spectographs, which able to split the life oming from stars into a spectrum. now these will be transiting
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exo-planets. that we mean rare consideration where the orbit allows the planet to pass in of the star, ace o we see a dip and the dip occurs once per orbit. during that dip, we'll get to in light, nge intensity of light and the transit occurs. and therefore, we'll be able to find those spectoscoppettaic signatures light, like ike carbon dioxide, which will be clues for le potential for biology. host: we have calls lined up for you. first call for martin still of nasaa. this is jim in ohio. good morning, you are on. caller: good morning, gentlemen. reat to see someone from nasa on c-span. i'm just retired science teacher, although i still have the classroom business once in a while. couple of things i wish you
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to quickly.d irst of all, you might want to put finer point on 85% of the whole sky, that is a little bit reaching, maybe. the second thing is in terms of nasa interest and what does, could you speak to manned missions?manned you know, we can all remember the excitement of the manned that was probably watered just a little bit by the with challenger. and the last thing, if i may, oes nasa still publish the spin-off booklets that were to let people know what practical applications much for us in ork has terrestrial world? question, , first i'll try and remember all three. host: 85% of the sky. so what that basically
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says on exactly what it the tin, it will be able to entire sky.t the the only portions of the sky in it will not survey primary mission are those out of ecliptic plane, the ecliptic plane, our own solar , planets in our system and the sun and moon eside in the sky and tess will avoid those regions during the primary mission. but 85% of the sky indeed, it survey over two years. the human exploration side of nasa versus astro-physical and other exploration. nasa pursues number of different aths, human exmraration is a part of it. agency.mportant to the manned presence in orbit, hope
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or future manned presence on the moon and beyond is also agency, but the also, understanding our niverse, understanding the confidence of our universe, how our universe formed, where it's going, how it is evolving, place lookinghat universe and for signs of life in other universe are the also agency priorities and we work together to meet all of our goals. henry in new york. go ahead. hi.er: thank you so much for this presentation. i -- i have a question really about the web and tess. they designed to work together? each other? secondly, it seems to me that a model of theago, a lower set up in
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manhattan and i went to see it my mouth hung open the whole time. but what's happened to it? decade and why has it taken so long? guest: right. web, you mean the james webb space telescope, nasa's next flagship mission, which will launch in 2020. were tess and webb designed to work together? it's a complicated story. webb was first conceived of we knew of exo-planets around other stars. original designs, really no concept to use webb as exo-planet systems. but as our understanding of and their importance to science has increased over webb, we've understood how webb can be used
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ways e, better and better to understand exo-planets and characterize them further. so tess was in fact designed webb somewhat in mind. now i hasten to add, not just not the only facility which is going to follow-up tess-discovered going to be beautiful collaboration of many ground-based telescopes and many scientists, not just within the around the s, but world. why is webb taken so long? complicated machine. f you cast your mind back to where we were when we first launched hubble space telescope, fantastic servant to the nation over the last 25 ears, the first couple of years, we had a lot of teething roubles and had to send a servicing mission into orbit to
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problems.tical the thing we want to avoid with webb is something similar to that. 202-748-8000 for those in the eastern and central time zone. 202-748-8001 for those of you in mountain and pacific time zones. if tess is in orbit gather how does the ata, data make it back to oerth in order for you to analyze it? in big t comes down chunks, it's in an elliptical point, it thest reaches out toward the orbit of the moon and nearest point is to the earth. during passages close to the it will transmit data collected over previous orbit, and a half days and send all , so that will be processed on the ground, it will be archived rapidly and if and you've got a finding it u are
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yourself, they will receive the time as he same scientists and community. this will be fun for everybody. sarasota, florida. nick is next. caller: yes, sir, i have a uestion about why is nasa avoiding what seems to be obvious programs? we've had probes go out to know that in our own water ystem, uropa has underneaths the ice, wouldn't a probe go in there and take of water or send back data and give us better idea no t life in the universe, matter how small? guest: great. such probes are under design are consipts to do those very things. concepts, the designs and the reviews take time and of have to pass a lot scrutiny and they're in that process right now. has passed ully through that process already and we're just a week away from
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of this he rewards particular mission. host: what is general cost of this program? um, $337 million, $80 of that is the launch itself. host: if you had to talk to united bout why the states should be making an invest nment this kind of roject, how would you defend that? guest: excellent question. first of all, we are explorers. have to know our place within the world, within the universe, we are to know whether alone. the answer to that question has impacts onndamentiaal the way we live our lives, but look to the to future. programs which impact our lives today and tomorrow. we need to be thinking about the next generation or the next generation, how do we inspire children to break out of
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whatever situations they are in, know, vide for, you diverse paths to working in in stem, in education and engineering in order to improve the lives of our and grandchildren in the future and it's programs nasa agencythin the and other government agencies which provide that inspiration. far as the planets -- ching, are these planets or looking at other types of suns? guest: looking at as many types stars as we can. most common type of star tess is at are in fact red stars. these are what we call red dwarfs. much smaller than the sun and they are cooler, which they're red, rather than yellow, which our sun is. being is they are
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type of e most common star out there, majority of red st neighbors are dwarfs. stars hey are -- the which are easiest to reveal rocky, near earth sized planets. stars themselves are quite small, signature of small planet across a small star is much more bvious than a small planet across a large star. host: is there ideal size of a planet to support life? there like a template you are looking for? guest: that is the million dollar question, right? we don't know where life is take discovery still in mode, which is what tess will do. will find all kinds of planets. type of planet that we're most fixated over, of planets just like our
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of similar , planet automatics, as an poenents and star at similar distance, we know the emperature is comfortable and all ingredients for life are there. that planet we haven't found yet. so we will continue on that tess will help us. >> moderator: -- host: martin still of nasa, program scientist for this mission. jim in new york, hi. caller: yeah, hi. you. a question for the i was a lab tech at academy and had observatory there. the planetarium in new ork city and they had that big laser show. this one little pet peeve i have, i want your comment on it.
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galaxy w the andrometer colliding with the milky way and the impression, they don't explain it, impression we would see that. the time frame would be so long that it would be easier to watch probably the himalayas rise on the than see movement in stars that are so far away and collisions, no because the stars are so far from each other to begin with. on that?omment guest: well, certainly it is redicted the two galaxys, one being our own and the other are on a galaxy collision course and i mean that in the gentlest possible way. is not going to be a train wreck and it will happen in future of years in the and you're absolutely right, it's very unlikely there will be kind of cataclysmic event,
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colliding with each other. around, cufind hundreds, thousands of examples ongoing collisions between galaxies which are completely benign. this is quite normal behavior for galaxies, we've had other galaxies in the past, not so big as ndrometer galaxy tis how galaxies evolve. it will be a long time. t will be beautiful when it happens. host: we'll see the satellite launch on top of space-x rocket. concerned, is nasa concerned about experiences with space-x in the past with rockets exploding? guest: no concern whatsoever in these launches go through so many rigorous checks.
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of course of course we're absolutely aware f all of the issues that have occurred when they have occurred in previous launches, not just but rockets ckets, across the world, other agencies, other companies and is always ation collected and used and so the we launch, the safer is ecomes, the more reliable it becomes and we are still going through checks now with tess and ill continue to do so all the way up to a few minutes before launch. a there is any sign of problem, we will cancel, scrub the launch, look into it and sure it is safe. hello.indiana, oraville, caller: hi. i just got a question for the there.ist i just been an amateur star i'm almost years, 70 years old. i was thinking about the new
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what actually dark matter is. interact withesn't light, but now they have measured in the deep parts of trying to find out what is on the other side of it, ask the like to scientist, got any new ideas it is and if it doesn't is t with light and gravity pretty extreme in the areas. host: can you offer context? excellent question. ndeed, there is a mysterious mass within the universe, which over the place. it's generally associated with see, the that we stars and galaxies, but we can't only know it is there through gravitational nteraction, moving around each other. we call it dark matter because
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it doesn't emit any light. we see it by the way it moves. and i cannot elicit some omb further, any clear favorites right now. we month by month, year by year, are launching or intend to launch a mission w-first next decade, dark will do a survey for matter and we'll see whether hat is able to actually focus in on any specific theories or reject some. tell.will host: joe, joe is in east point, michigan. yes.r: i would like to point out a couple things maybe and a question. you already know, you're already aware of the things that you are telling us and little by little, information.fed
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i know personally for a fact that we are not alone in this and this gal ax i. since i was seven years old, i'm i had an ld, experience at a village in ohio, i will never forget. gray, they were orange. i was in shock. i didn't tell anybody for over that encounter led me to a search of where we really nthis galaxy and universe. i know for a fact that, but you i guess we're corn cobs on this planet and can't accept of reality extra-terrestrial, you know, nasa knows, they can't tell us. have things hidden, if the public knew what nasa really knows, i believe we have our own ufo craft, i actually believe it. it lead me to my own little search. host: caller, thanks. to that.t me respond
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launching missions like kepler, and tess and webb, with long-term hope that we will vidence for life on other planets. so far we have found no sign extra-terrestrial life in the universe, but one of goals is actually to determine whether we are alone whether there are potential elsewhere. once the satellite launches, how orbit, ll it remain in when does the data compiling do with what do you the results? ifs and a lot of unknowns, but line, if everything
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goes, we will launch next week, , go through a two-month commissioning period instruments and calibrate them so they are precise. we will then begin the survey in of this year. so it will be a two-year survey, of 2020, d in june that is right. data will come around, come down you know, once per orbit. and thentific community tess team will be discovering and it will continue to report on discoverys that time onwards, until tess mission is terminated. mission is two years, but it has potential to carry on years beyond that. host: nasa website, there is a site dedicated to the tess program. you can follow along with find
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sxgs progress of this. martin still joining us from with the program. he serves as stories for transiting exo-planet. time this your morning. guest: thank you. host: open phones until the end of the program. for republicans. 202-748-8000 for democrats. independents, 202-748-8002. and you can post on social media calls when we'll take we come back. >> monday on "landmark cases," ohio, ku kluxersus of leader was convicted hoit speech under ohio law, violated urt ruled it his first amendment right. our guests to discuss this are nadine strasman of the civil katie es union and fallow, senior attorney at
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concentrate on enforcement. "u.s.a. tion of the today." we will show you other stories along.go david, first call on open phones, go ahead. thanks for c-span. i just feel that just like every for the last year, since comey was fired, that we're, you know, in danger of losing the republic. guy is a drift er. in the people around him are it for the money. family.shner, his i, as a bernie-type supporter, to thank republicans right here for a minute. rosesnstein.y, the bush's.artner, it brings us together.
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the fight back to this dangerous on the republic. it's -- host: okay, to clarence in columbus, indiana, independent line. in indiana, hello, go ahead. caller: it's me. wanted to refer back when for the rich ran presidency and didn't get the nomination and after that happened, then he went on the media and started exposing things about the other people and that seems to have caught on. now it is full-blown thing on out politicians ratting other politicians. it's already worked its way down f.b.i. now and so i'm just wondering where this is and who couldp at possibly be our next president?
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host: another immigration story this washington times morning. a section of wall to be built in dinerxico, this is steven saying the 20-mile project has been on the book for sometime awarded in ract was january. president trump gets credit for making it happen, new fencing new mexico, replace sub-standard barriers, some is consist of ier, connected sections of bars about they can hinder a car or truck, but easy to climb over migrants on foot. aaron hall, for the el paso patrol sayse border replace mesh fencing that is easy to cut through and climb over.asy to replacement will be fencing consists of vertical poles acked together so tightly an arm couldn't be struck to give from the side. monticello, in
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indiana. line.re on the republican [discernible] -- and bring them down and let them take care of the -- alexandria, virginia, democrat's line. hello. caller: hello. my comment is about exo-planets. enthuzed that nasa is going to do the search with the webb lites, including the satellite, but my question is, ay we knew where all the planets were, what would we do with that information? go there? we can't go with the rockets we have. go to , i doubt we could mars with the rockets we had. he -- that said that around, i agree with and nasa is know. ing us what they host: do you think that because we cannot head out to these
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locations that the data done in vein? is there value to it, do you think? a valuei think there is to tremendous capabilities in our satellites, including the webb. that will probably save a lot of costs going there initially, but feeling that we may have already been to some of the own s, especially in our solar system. you know, it's just so much web, ormation is on the quasi sa being organization, they hide backside of the moon, for example, is great example of why people doubt what and so the ng secretive nature of this is just really, it's really confusing to us and probably that is what bit anyway.little you know, yes, it is worth doing i believe it just is
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productive. host: we'll leave it there. open phones, 202-748-8001 for republicans. 202-748-8000 for democrats. 202-748-8002. let's go to new mexico, republican line. joe, good morning, you're on, go ahead. caller: yes. need something to inflation. fight something to inflation, like the fed, loan oney to people to bring down prices. host: why do you think that has take place? caller: well, that, you know, a i've asked people in town what they think of prices prices need to
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down. host: okay, joe in new mexico calling. ouple stories looking at congress. shawn sulvan, gop fears losing ouse, focuses on keeping senate. writes, in the house, republicans built rankos locking down seat necessary ex-urban districts, democratic turnout elections over n the last year, fuelled by anger with the president. if democrats gain 23 house seats, they will clench the majority. mitch mcconnell found similar tuesday, likened headwinds to category 3, 4, 5 republicans need keep control of the senate because "even if we lose the house and legislatively, approve appointments which is huge part local we do, he told a editorial board. epublican close to senate leader says mcconnell could appeal to right-leaning voters. judges. conservative
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republican spoke to be canned reminders ted more about senate confirmation to up uch last year will show in the campaign. if you go to the washington morning, another senator, sworn in yesterday, of distinction, too. cindy hyde-smith sworn in monday as junior senator from making first female member of congress from the southern state. president pence delivered oath of office to cindy hyde-smith. cochran stepped down in april because of health issues, toting a white bible for the ceremony. cindy hyde-smith was ommissioner of agriculture and commerce, accompanied by fellow wiker.r, roger quoted as saying, what a day, she told mr. pence. pages of the new york time, tammy duckworth in give ws, first senator to birth to a daughter, on monday,
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her first u.s. senator to give birth while in office. said she and her husband and daughter couldn't be mae er to welcome little pearl to the family. we are so grateful for the love and support of our friends and family, as well as our wonderful medical team and everything they complete to help us our family, she said, in a statement, that in the "new york times." george, george is in milwaukee, wisconsin. ahead. caller: yeah, i just want to reminding all r americans, who all love this the ry, no one is above law, from the president down to simple citizen, who just enjoys living in a free country world.s when it is all said and over
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ith, that makes me feel real comfortable now. i'm a voter. descendant from slaves and i love my country. that is all i need to say. charlie in jonesboro, arkansas, you're next up. god bless america, i agree with the last caller. think this gas bombing in syria, 40 people got killed, that is a terrible thing. and here was thousands thousands killed by iraq when -- iranian war. they just want apology iranians didn't even get that. we didn't even say nothing about we've lost our moral authority on this matter. if the united nations can't do anything, until can be done it.t it is not for us. if we step up and do anything exposes us as hypocrites and we can't fly the hypocrite flag. way.n't behave that given iran the money back that
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we had stolen from them was the do, that wasn't our money, that makes us thieves. fly the thief flag, we have to be our own country. ok nds host: okay, the president with day during press op, reporters talking about topics syria was a topic, about potential action of what might in light of those over the weekend. trump. president pres. trump: we're making decision as to what we do with attack to the horrible and was made near damascus it will be met and it will be forcefully and when, i will not say, i don't like talking but we are , developing the greatest force had.we've ever we had 700 billion dollars, just was the reason i went along with that budget,
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because we had to fix our military. general mattis will tell you that, above anybody, we had to and right now y we are in the process of doing $700 billion and more next year. a decision tonight or shortly thereafter and you will be hearing the decision. we can't let let atrocities like witnessed and you can see that and it is horrible, we happen.et that host: on capitol hill today, the first of two hearings featuring c.e.o., mark zuckerberg will take place. e'll appear 2:feign this afternoon in front of the judiciary and commerce ommittees, watch for that on c-span 3 and c-span.org and the c-span radio app. tomorrow, repeat appearance, showing up on capitol hill again n front of the house, energy and commerce committee, live tomorrow at 10:00 in the
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morning. you can monitor that. website for more information on that. william from palm coast, florida, republican line. hi. matter if you 't are a republican or democrat. he is 60 years old, we have full accountability. give you brief description defining dark matter. or is still incorrect unknowledgeable. dark matter doesn't emit light. can't reflect it, it is going too fast. i know we can all figure that out, if we're scientists. accountable, ete including dark energy. refused by nasa and astro say theys because they are so close to the solution and hey don't want to give up notorie ty, or the originality. contact us at our
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the te, which i leave off air. ncluding dark energy and how galaxies are, they are insignificant. host: do you think science when t comes to research of the universe or other aspects that is done in the private sector entity like nasa? so er: i think they are uninformed. leave you with one analogy, it like we're ants in backyards nd we're staring at rocks around us. the ant shouldn't care about the temperature of rocks, composition of the rock. hese are just pieces of debris and explodes with big bang event these doesn't matter what things are. what matters is what is really and the with gravity real powers of the universe.
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host: okay, okay. kansas city, missouri. democrat's line. ander: yes, i am a democrat i am over 60 and i have seen a lot of politics, but i've never politics like this. hillary clinton ended up getting the wrist, the f.b.i. didn't go to her attorney's office, they didn't go to her house, didn't go to her attorney's hotel room and aid for the documents and yet for president trump, they go to his attorney's house, they go to to his rney's office, attorney's hotel room and raid the documents tochlt me, it like as a democrat, over 60 years, it seems like to me.ce we have one kind of justice for one kind of justice for republican politicians in this country and it is fair and i've been a life-long democrat and i've never seen anything my life.n host: independent line, margaret
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tta, georgia. caller: yes, i'm really amount of bout the true, rsus the amount of trusted, you know, scientific facts or facts. know, i don't like the .b.i. labeled as a political element and we're not a -- you rule of law, y of but i also think it is dangerous know, nasa and, you th basic research is disregarded and that the question is, does truth and democracy-building and science, what has been done to really build on those thing? concerned about that. host: in light of the hearing that takes place today with mark at 2:15, senator
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the topic of n facebook. today of all days, i just found facebook are two fake accounts impersonating me, guess hat, many friends appear to be russian accounts. facebook and mr. zuckerberg, this is unacceptable. again, those are the type of questions to be expected of the mark zuckerberg when he appears before the senate at 2:15. according to his website, maybe will ask him about that instance and other things, too. 2:15 on c-span 3. next, rick in texas, independent line. hi. aller: good morning, pedro, thank you for c-span. i was wanting to suggest maybe programming, you could give a is from y caller who the district of the representative you have, my louis goemer, is pyle around omer
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here. i tried for an hour to get through. when he was last on just recently? caller: yes, sir. i've been a watcher for years tried calling many times, this is first time to get through and you just made my day. very much. host: the house side, the hill the ting this morning that future of speaker ryan is being debated among some on capitol side.n the house this story by scott long this morning saying that while house /* -- scal skalz scalise. back in washington attending small, private dinner with president trump, it was illustration of how mccarthy has playing the inside game with trump, ensuring little the nce between him and president. mccarthy and scalise, two and
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three house leaders have been for the president's affection as they quietly run a replace mpaign to speaker ryan if he quits congress after the november id-term elections smchlt lawmakers predict the president to be the deciding factor in who ratings le approval hover in the low 40s, president is popular with house g.o.p. conservative base." that is the trump card," explained one g.o.p. lawmaker is neutral and closely watching the budding rivalry. one of them will get the to show some sort of support and that is the guy. verything else is plan b, adding another senior g.o.p. ide, if that works out, you're set. if that -- next rick, colorado springs, colorado. yes, hi. thank you for this opportunity. the curious regarding ability to pardon. if i'm out xample, of bounds here.
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10%, let's trump say, of his crimes and rumors become true and he either resigns or is impeached, therefore, mike pence becomes president. place and takes private citizen trump is prosecuted, can now resident mike pence pardon trump? if so, do you think he would? know the full answer to that, i'm sure other people that topic than me, so i think they may call in on the facebook page of the twitter feed, as well. there.me leave it bill, in maine, democrat's line, next. caller: yes. thank you. i would like to comment on, i few people want to still
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clinton.illary she's not the president. ow we have a president in the white house and his administration enriching themselves off the american and people want to overlook that. 50 to 100 here from pages of financials, which connect him overseas to different countries and there's for the american people. so, people ought to notice what and not ignore it a campaign on ve day.book going 24 hours a ow can you justify how he got elected when he fails to be able any time?e truth at so i'd be more worried about point.sue at this so, you know, whatever somebody
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wants to say, i'm more than happy to listen. host: okay. it there.e the "washington post" on with north korea. she writes about that, about the denuclearization coming into question tochlt some washington, denuclearization means kim eeted jong-un handing over nuclear weapon and missile system and llowing international inspectors to check the regime word, to its pyeongchang pyeongchang pyongyang, it put over south korea and japan, the difference in definition that toll deaf null before it starts. the piece go og to say pentagon agreed to post annual
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pring exercises with the south korean military, after the winter olympics, the exercises low key thise more year, field training exercise, 11,500 gle, involve american troops down from 15,000 last year. ore of that available at the "washington post." ed, is next, from baltimore, line.nd, republican caller: hi, this is ed. 'm a life-long republican and actually think the best thing to topen for our party would be suffer cataclysmic defeat in the cycles and ction re-emerge in a decade as center right party. thatta?y do you think caller: i just think we've gone too far to the right, just as have gone too far to the left and nobody close to the center anymore. gone too far say to the right, what example do you give of that? give : what example do i of that? charlottesville is a good
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example of that. steve bannon as good example of that. name, -- i forgot first miller in the white house, good example of that. we really need evangelicals have gotten too a party and center has been completely dismissed. host: this is mark calling on line, also from colorado springs. hello. caller: hey, how you doing. morning. host: good morning, go ahead. kaublth you mentioned earlier mcconnell.h excuse me. is comments about they need to keep the house in areas if they lost the house. with ay this and i agree the caller previous from maryland. the whole thing needs to be cleaned out, including donald trump. trump,d thing with donald a lot of people want to realize, fter this investigation, he is donald trump. the reason i'm saying that, i'm
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originally from brooklyn, new york. tell you, one out of 10 people voted for him in the presidential election and people who are from new york, we all know who donald trump is. nothing new to us and his investigation and them ratirat that willchael cohen, show everything trump is about. that upsets trump the most, he revealed. he doesn't like being challenged. anyone who challenges him, he against them hard. not so much, he's a like r-puncher, doesn't being revealed or challenged. like to hear your points on that. host: don, democrat's line. caller: hi, pedro, good morning. don't understand why people keep talking about this thing with mueller and the hoax.igation is a clearly, people have been are ted behind this, they falling like rocks, you know
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what i mean. ot only that, but these properties that trump owns, chinese, he said he has no connection with the russians. -- in his pocket, definitely in his pocket and also my last is that how any woman ould support this guy with the things he's said, you know, he morals and i'm from new york, also. he's a joke and con -- for that.ogy eileen, from connecticut, independent line. caller: good morning. thank you, c-span. thank you for the callers calling in, i've listened for the last half-hour and i want to echo the callers who alled in and said, stop complaining about clinton, stop complaining about obama. president t the anymore, the scrutiny is on the person in office. trump is in office. is why he has scrutiny.
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you should be glad there is not demanding his re birth certificate because that did.hat he so he's kind of getting what he did. much.you very host: to california, mckinleyville, california, republican line. is dave. hello. caller: yeah. let me take the other side for a minute. regarding the f.b.i. raiding of lawyer's office and hotel room where he's staying. f.b.i.r this is the same that went before the fisa court a document that had been financed by the clinton the d.n.c., convinced the fisa court to the trump to spy on campaign without ever disclosing thedossier had been used by clinton campaign.
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the real threat to our country the so-calledit's have so e, where you many government agencies, like i.r.s., who have been turned democraticcal waves, party, because of the corruption. this is what trump meant by swauc swamp. we have government bureaucrats, the government whose livelihood depend on getting rid of the republican party because wants to ican party shrink the size of the government. the k the size of government constitutes livelihood. host: okay. we'll hear from another dave in california. >> i want to comment about the border wall,
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>> that will stop the problem really fast. we do not need walls are troops on the border. the people who come here should be allowed to work if they are here legally. the employers that hire them should go to jail. into the the employer in jail you are going to have people coming here because republicans are the new slaveowners. they want people who come here to work for nothing and not get any medical care or anything. that is my comment. walls pitild 10 more will not do anything. the employer in jail and you will stop the problem. host: we are just about to throw to an event. richard, missouri. you had, therogram gentleman from nasa. the amount of intelligent humans have it is a sin to see what goes on where they are fighting.
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, we waterboarded someone. it did the same thing is that gas attack. we are hit for hit in a way. the statue of liberty said something about bringing the war and everybody into this country, maybe we ought that on the mexican border. call onat is the last this topic and this program. i told you a lot about it already. two hearings with mark , akerberg in the senate house hearing tomorrow. watch those on c-span and get more information about it on c-span.org. we will take you to the house energy and, in committee where former dea agents who inspired the netflix series narco's join policymakers. the topic will look theat

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