tv Maggie Haberman Interview on Covering President Trump CSPAN April 28, 2018 2:56am-3:08am EDT
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journal" live at 7:00 eastern saturday morning. join the discussion carried quite annual white house correspondents associate dinner gets underway this weekend. opted not tomp has attend for the second beer in a row. the dinner celebrates journalist first amendment rights and honors reporters and news organizations for their work. one of this year's award winners is the dinner celebrates journalists' first amendment rights. one winner is white house correspondent for her coverage of president trump. she joins us from new york. first, congratulations. >> thank you. let's just talk about your
expensive experience -- extensive experience covering donald trump. it began before he was president. when did you begin reporting on him and where was that? >> i spent 14 years in your city tabloids for a very long time. working for the tabloids, you invariably covered donald trump in some way. he was omnipresent. he was a spicy quote. he would make a story that he showed up after 9/11 when he wanted to ditch a revamped version of the 20 hours. he was always there. i did not -- he was always there. -- a revamped version of the between towers. he was always there. he was roasted memorably by president obama at the white house correspondents association dinner in april 2011, shortly after he announced he was not running. i spent a lot of time watching him, covering him, learning about how driven he is by a desire to be taken seriously and that is a lot of what you saw in his desire to run and win in 2016. >> did you taken seriously when he said he would run in 2015? >> i took him seriously in 2011 when he was talking about running. when he then announced during sweeps week, when the apprentice was still on the air and he was the star of it or involved in it, that he would not be running for president, once we rolled around to 2015, one of his advisers at the time wanted me
to write a story ahead of time saying he was like to declare on june 15, 2015 that he was running. i said i would not write it until he actually ran, having gone through that experience before. i did not believe that he would stay in the race. i thought that he would do it for a while and boost the brand and the bailout. . but he did really well. he does not like being perceived as a winter. -- a quitter. his crowns were real. he was leading in the polls. nothing seemed to put a dent in his floor of voters. he stayed around 25% in a republican primary. that is all he needed. i didn't and then i did. >> you have seen the evolution from businessmen to candidates in a president.
is there any difference? what is the same about donald trump the businessman and donald trump the president? >> almost everything is the same. it's a wonderful question. when he was getting ready to move to washington, there was a question whether he would fully make the move. he was expected to get back to new york city on the weekends. +has not done that. the traffic would be -- he has not done that. the traffic would be too much. but he go cymer lago. he is a homebody -- but he goes to mar-a-lago. he is a homebody. he believes his own instinct is the best. he doesn't like to be educated by anyone, let alone outside advisors. that has been a huge challenge for his aides in the white house, many of whom did not know him prior to his winning the restaurant -- the presidency.
>> in winning this award, the judges said this. you often convey the feeling of being a fly on the wall of the white house. how have you used those 14 years to cover this president? is it strategic for you when you hear something about this president to go back to what you learned those 14 years when you covered him as a businessman? >> there are always basic precepts about donald trump that i try to go back to. one of the things that has been stymieing for people who are learning about him is the assumption that there is some grand when at it with most of what he does, -- some grand plan at play with most of what he does. he called in to fox and friends to do in interview, which he has not been in a long time. it is something he loves doing. i think he was looking to create a new story line away from scott
pruitt. he likes doing these interviews. it feels good to him. people over thing to do -- people overthink the degree to which there is a strategy. that informs my thinking. and i try to think about how he views the world. it helps interpret a lot of what he does. >> how do you think he interprets the world? >> there is a lot of us versus them. he rarely closes the door on anyone. everything is an ongoing deal or negotiation, which is why you can see him fire people but never do it himself because he is very confrontation averse. by tweet is not quite the same thing. then he can strike up these relationships with them once they are gone. >> he has publicly criticized you in the new york times. -- and the new york times. does that impact your reporting? >> no.
many presidents have done it. many governors and mayors have done it. he may be doing it most exquisitely and with his own fingers on the twitter keyboard. it doesn't change how we do anything. but it is worth remembering that the new york times, for most of his career as a developer in new york, was a symbol of the elite. he felt rejected a somebody not from manhattan, from the outer boroughs, that theme of not being taken seriously. that is why the times looms so large in his imagination. >> the new yorker headline from an interview you did with the publication last year, a conversation with maggie haberman, trump's favorite photo -- trump's favorite foe. this heat treat you differently behind the scenes than he does on twitter? >> i would not discuss private conversations in one way or the other. there are a number of times that i have interviewed him and
spoken with him. >> does he disliked the media, do you think? >> now. i think -- no. i think he loves the media. i don't think he understands that a media-devoted government is all about. he is unused to a press corps that is not devoted to the cult of personality. >> what are your thoughts on winning this award? what does it mean for you? >> it is a huge honor. i was really stunned and overwhelmed by it. when i saw that they were calling me, i wasn't sure why they were calling me. it was very gratifying. it is thrilling and overwhelming to be honored by my peers in this way.
> your advice for aspiring journalists? >> stay off twitter. [laughter] that's the main one. >> thank you and congratulations. >> by the way, the other winners for saturday night's dinner include winning the award for the merriman smith award for broadcasting cnn. honorable mention went to nbc news, taking home the merriman smith award is politico. and the edgar a powell award goes to reuters -- edgar a poe award goes to reuters. you can watch it on c-span or listen along on the c-span radio app. and >> before the correspondents dinner this weekend, live coverage of president trump who
is holding a rally in michigan at 7:00 p.m. eastern here on c-span. on afterwards, a journalist with his book the trump white house: changing the rules of the game. he is joined by -- interviewed by j thomas of liberty consulting. >> bribing, punching. it's all an act. i interviewed his top aide for 26 years. when she joined, there were only seven other employees. said there was donald trump. one is the one you see on tv who makes these outrageous comments to get attention for his brand, and creates negative publicity. he still becomes the center of attention every day in
conversation and for the media. the other donald trump, the one insiders know, is sort of the opposite. he's very careful about making decisions. >> watch afterwards sunday night eastern on c-span twos book tv. >> last week, house chaplain patrick conroy announced glanced to resign at the request of house speaker paul ryan. democratic lawmakers came to the floor to discuss concerns about the dismissal and call for the creation of a select committee to investigate the matter. this is 10 minutes. for what purpose does the gentleman from new york seek recognition. >> mr. speaker, pursuant to clause 2-a-1 of rule 9, i rise to give notice of my intent to raise a question of the privileges of the house. the form of the resolution is as follows.