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c-span's 50 capital toward to discuss the policy issues in his state. we will take your calls and you can join the rescission on facebook and twitter. -- discussion on facebook and twitter. washington journal is next. ♪ host: the united states sent a china overation to threats of trade tariffs with that country. on top of that cannot president trump must decide by tomorrow is temporary exemptions to steel and aluminum tariffs for concerted countries will become permanent all that -- permanent. 30, ont today, april "washington journal."
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in our first hour, we want to ask you about your level of faith in american democracy. to let us know your thoughts this morning, three lines you can call on. , democrats, and independents. if you want to make your thoughts known on america's democratic system, post those thoughts on twitter @c-spanwj .nd on the first sentence from this report reads, "at a time of growing stress on democracy around the world, americans valuesly agree on important for the united states, but see the country falling well short in living up to these ideals. according to a new study on the
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strength of weaknesses -- the strengths and weaknesses of key aspects of american democracy and political system. can you elaborate on that first sentence? what kind of things were you looking for in asking people about their level of interest or faith in america's democratic system? weler: we asked -- guest: asked people about a long list of items related to the political system, including whether the rights and freedoms of all people are expected, aspects of elections and the united states, whether congressional districts are fairly drawn, and how important each of those items is to you, and then asked how well the country is doing on each one as a scorecard of how the country is doing. you have very large majorities saying each is very important, and a much more mixed view of how the country is doing.
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host: you mention the rights and freedoms of people are respected. 84% of those responding saying it is an important ideal for the united states, but only 40% of those -- 47% saying the country does that well. could you expand on those numbers? guest: that is a core element of american democracy. only about half of the public says this is describing the country very or somewhat well. you see a huge partisan gap on that. about 75% of republicans, only 37% of democrats saying this. on others you see negative ratings on both sides of the aisle. you: an even larger gap found when it comes to elected officials and the consequences they face for misconduct. 83% saying that is important, only 30% saying that describes the country well. caller: that is one of the largest -- guest: that is one of
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the largest gaps we've found. of find a bipartisan sentiment that the country isn't really living up to this. the sentence was elected officials faced serious misconduct -- serious consequences for his conduct. -- for misconduct. host: one that showed a little bit of even this was the one you asked about the rights of people peacefully protesting. tell us a little about those results. guest: that was one that, again, very important. 74% describing this as a very important value for the united states, but 73% saying it is being done very or somewhat well, meaning that people do see the right to protest being allowed and permitted in the united states. that is one of the highest marks the public gave the country for these democratic values. when this survey is done,
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is this the first time you have taken the survey? guest: this is the first time. host: tell us a little about the methodology and how you got to these results and the people you polled for this. guest: guest: we pulled over 4000 people for this using our online panel. it is a pretty robust sample of people. we did it in january and february, so it is a couple of months old, but relatively recently. we asked a number of questions a number of different ways around this because we are very interested in democracy. obviously an important topic around the world. we want to get people's assessments of how well democracy is working and their own support for it. host: what prompted you to ask this for the very first time? guest: i think there's a sense that democracy is under some strain or stress around the
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world, and we wanted to see people's views of this. it is a really important topic, and it is part of a year-long inort we are going to make terms of studying issues like trust, facts in the united states, and democracy in the united states and around the world. host: carol doherty, director of political research for pew research center. if you want to see that for yourself, go to the pew research website. and now your chance to give your bus this morning coming your level of faith in america's democratic system -- give your thoughts this morning, your level of faith in america's democratic system. bill off of twitter says, "this may be the first 'washington
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-- journal' quis tion ever i cannot answer or have an opinion on. it's a tough one. come -- it's a tough one." good morning. caller: good morning. first of all, the united states is not a democracy. we are a republic. i hear democracy every day on television, democracy, democracy, democracy. we are not a democracy. we are a republic. the only democracy we have is in electing our people. host: that said, your level of faith on the system we do have been? caller: the system that we have right now is that the democrats never have any chance to sit back and let the other party do what they want to do.
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the democrats always have their hand on the button. nobody else gets to do anything without the democrats. i think what the senate is doing right now without letting important people be put into --ice right now host: ok. let's go to joe in georgia on the republican line. caller: i've been calling into c-span for 30 years. love your network. i just want to say that color is right. we are supposed to be a room -- that caller is right. we are supposed to be a republic, not a democracy. i think we have a great country and a great president. host: so with the system we have , what is your level of faith in it, and tell us why. pedro, i do have a lot of faith in it because i believe we have a lot of problems and
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you can get respondents, but i still think with all the problems we have, we have freedom here. you have freedom to cast your vote for who you want to vote for. i feel very good about the future. butink we will improve it, i'm an optimist, and i think that we will get better and better. we are getting people more interested. like i say, i am going to vote for my nephew in governor -- for governor today. i feel really good, pager. host: let's hear from waldorf, maryland on the independent line. caller: this is a perfect example of how the media and politicians misrepresent what this country is. this is a representative republic. you have misrepresented the way this country supposed to be governed. we are not a democracy. we are watching a bunch of communist change the terms of the declaration of independence
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and the constitution. that is what we are watching right here. the tradition of our country is we are watching a group of people who are literally committing treason and undermining a duly elected president. we are watching communism. james comey committed treason. all these guys at the fbi, treason. why are they not prosecuted for treason? host: ok. let's go to joseph in las vegas, nevada. democrats line. caller: good morning. i feel that america, while it great ideals, has never lived up to its promise. witness the treatment of people of color, the consistent breaking of treaties with the indians, the class warfare. donald trump's administration has basically been dismantling
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the constitution. he stood by and applauded when foreign dignitaries beat protesters, peaceful protesters, shortly after his inauguration. he has disregarded every law. he seems to think he can pick and choose. the republicans have basically not stood up to him. the ones that are disappointed with his performance have sat down in congress instead of standing. host: ok. that is joseph in las vegas, nevada. your thoughts on your level of our system. again, those lines for republicans, democrats, and independents. make your thoughts known on twitter and facebook.
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linda, who is in tennessee. go ahead. caller: yes, good morning. i just want to make a comment republican, and i don't agree that things are going well. ,he republicans have a majority and it just doesn't seem like things are working out because everything the good that president trump is trying to do is blocked by the democrats. change youres that face in the democratic system we have in the united states under the republic we operate under? caller: well, what i am just going to say is everybody needs to get out there and vote because the things that are going on in the doj and the fbi and those people that are not being prosecuted, that just shows you how skewed our government has become, which is a deadly combination for our freedoms. host: this is from twitter,
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saying, "we have no republic or democracy. call it what you wish. we have a system paid for by the rich. rich job is to make the richer, not make conditions better for the unwashed masses." now the democrat line. hello. you are on. caller: hi. my first comment is about what paul ryan did in congress. that goes to show you that you can't have any faith in america fires republican senator a priest out of congress. we are supposed to be open and fair, you see what it is when one side controls everything. i am talking about the republicans. they always want to blame the democrats if things don't go their way. they have the house, the senate, and everything.
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they don't get nothing passed because bank god you've got some republicans -- thank god you got republicans with some conscience. they will live the rest of their life thinking about what they did to this country. there's no excuse for the looting, all the things they have done, and the have no conscientious reason for doing it. no support. the faith of the country right now is in one party's hands, so don't try to get it across the board. it is in one party's hands. host: you mentioned the decision to remove the chaplain of the house. "the washington times" with some reaction from other members of congress. ryan tried to quell complaints, including within the gop at a meeting friday morning, saying he decided it was time for a change. some members told him father conroy was a meeting their spiritual needs. he provides counsel to members
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who ask for it. representative walker of north carolina complained last week the he told "the hill" that next chaplain should be someone with family, which would exclude catholic priests and nuns who take thousand celibacy. mr. walker, a baptist minister, later said he misspoke. representative peter king, new york republican thomas who is catholic, said members deserve a better nation for mr. ryan. " you can you congress or other means to give us your thoughts this morning. let's go to stephen, independent line, south dakota. you are next up. caller: good morning. i see that a lot of people seem to be getting their views from hate radio, and their
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definitions of what is democracy , that means people rule. but as we have now, the oligarchs rule. we have a military industrial complex, as has been brought out by generals butler and eisenhower and others. hold our public officials accountable with the full power of the law. we need to charge them with conspiracies and other crimes when they committed those crimes, including treason. it shouldn't be waiting until someone is voted out of office and then let them go on their merry way. as we the be there people rule, and if somebody was working for us at a private business and pulled the kind of stuff that these elected officials are pulling on the american public, then they would
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be held accountable certainly. we could take them to court and prosecute. host: ok. that is stephen in south dakota. jan on twitter says, "yes, we are a republic. the organization of the states and the federal government. and tenetshe ideals of democracy when it comes to a the people, is 'of by the people, and for the people'." those are just some of the thoughts this morning. on ohio -- from ohio on the appended line, -- on the independent line, rick is up next. in detroit in up the 60's and 1970's. we were the best country in the history of mankind. we were number one in education and health care and job creation, wealth circulation, and that was all done through
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the greatest generation, through the midwest, pedro. that is michigan, ohio, illinois, pennsylvania, whatever. how did that collapse, pedro? there was something in this country at one time called the civil war. americansar where the , the humanitarians from the north, thought these groups of these groups of people from mississippi, alabama, georgia, arkansas. they wanted to go halfway around the world and capture people and put them in chains and then enslave them and put them in a boat and enslave them and bring them over here because they were too lazy to pick their cotton. host: being a matter of history, your level of faith in what you have described so far?
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the midwest, the values of the midwest, the labor unions, the working class, livable wages, retirement benefits, they've given away to the people of the south. host: ok. let's go to our line for democrats, nate in milwaukee. caller: thank you. i think in the long run, our democracy has been headed in a good direction, but i am very worried about certain things. i look at the gerrymandering in my and other states, which is basically rigging elections, so i don't have unelected state legislature right now. i worry about the money in politics. whereulvaney said it best he says, i don't talk to a lobbyist unless he sends money, which is just an indictment of corruption and a sign that he is part of the swamp. by the way, the judicial have beenve activists
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opening the gates for money more and more over the past several years. that is something that ought to to maked at and changed things better rather than worse. host: one of the things they asked folks about in this survey of democratic ideals and how the country is doing is aspects of citizenship, asking people about what is important to be a good citizen. 74% saying it was very important to vote in elections, and 71% saying pay all the taxes that you owe, 69% saying follow-up the law -- follow all the law, ying serve jury duty is called, 61% saying respect opinions of those who disagree, 60% saying because the in the u.s. census every decade, 62% saying volunteer to help others, 50 percent saying to know the
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pledge of allegiance. caller: the political spectrum that has been going on in this country since barack obama come in, it has absolutely gone caramel. -- gone terrible. allave the cia, fbi, nsa trying to overthrow a duly elected president of the united states. i am calling on the republican line because i changed my party affiliation after being a union man for 44 years. i found out just how crooked and what big thieves they are, and for that man that called earlier and talked about labor unions and everything, they want that one thing from you, and that is your union dues. they don't care about what happens to this country socially , our borders or anything like that. after 44 years, i said to myself, this is not working. host: so richard, your level of
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faith as you would describe it in the current democratic system we have? state isnless the deep corralled and stopped, it is not looking good. host: ok. todd is next from california, independent line. caller: hi, how are you? host: fine, thank you. caller: i don't have a lot of faith in american democracy right now. on a scale of one to 10, i would say it is a watcher of. we are really -- a four. it is really not a democracy. it is a benevolent republican dictatorship. they just seem to do whatever they want. fix that is toe get rid of the electoral college and have election of the president by popular vote. host: why do you think that would change the system? caller: well, it would be more honest.
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it would actually be a democracy because in several states, for example, the electorate's in that state can vote for whoever they want to. it is not really direct representation. host: do you think a state like yours, california, would have an advantage in that system given the size and population? no becausethis case, most people don't vote. fair ifit would be more everything was by direct election. host: that is todd in california giving us his thoughts this morning. oll asks about aspects of the united states and what people think about it, asking people in parties to describe things. whether people have equal succeed,ty to
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democrats say 37%, republicans say 74%. when it comes to government policies reflecting the views of most americans, 30% of those who that describesay the country well, 43% of republicans saying that describes the country well. theof this available on pew research center website. you can look that up for yourself. let's go to libby in florida, line for democrats. hello. caller: hello. thank you for taking my call. , oncealling in to say again, i do believe that america is a democracy. i think the movement that we see
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across this nation resembles very much the movements going on ,n the 1960's and 1970's proving that you do have the right to peacefully protest. i am so proud of the young people across this nation coming forth to say all of the things that they want to see as they go forth and take control. keep on going. news,in other political this morning taking a look at the november elections and the reaction from some republicans as they look to that. republicans and see about the energy on the left heading into midterms, saying congress needs to pass more conservative legislation to bolster the case for why voters should keep the gop an office. the catch, they can't agree to what it should be. 80 priorities like regulatory reform and spending cuts,
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something pragmatic like infrastructure reform. get disenchanted and stay-at-home in november, costing republicans the house and maybe even the senate. need some more wins because it is the right thing to do and it is politically expedient to our base to turn out in the fall , make sure they are being active and following through on this stuff."' let's go today's in lakeland -- let's go to dave in lakeland, florida. caller: thank you for taking my call. i believe eight years of barack obama is what has divided this country, and no one can change my mind. i am 72 years old. i've seen a lot of change in this country. i've never seen politics the way it is done now. about have a comment immigration from personal experience. host: before you go down that your tell us about
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thinking about this level of faith in the democratic system. if your level of faith sounds a little shaky, tell us exactly why. voted every, i election that i was eligible to vote for when i registered to vote. we played by the rules and accepted it. and when the next election come along, we could vote that person out. now if you have a different opinion about voting for somebody, then you are either a racist or stupid or whatever. that is not a democracy. thatnes who are yelling our democracy has been taken away from us are the ones who are doing the most yelling. conservatives can't go on to college campuses and speak because they are just not
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wanted. i guess i don't need to say much more about that. host: your quick thought on immigration, then? caller: i have a grandson who's been here from guatemala, adopted legally. he is not a citizen yet because they are waiting for a from the immigration office in tampa, florida, which is totally incompetent. he is now 17. the poor kid can't get a drivers license. he can't get a job because of a paper being held up. certificategets his , as for those on the daca sendam, until they get it them back where they came from. host: in "the new york times" this morning, "a grueling
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journey gave way to what could process,ertain asylum finally reaching the border between the united states and mexico, setting up dramatic moments due to president trump's anti-immigrant politics. the caravan headed north in march from mexico's border with guatemala to seek asylum in the united states. the migrants were told sunday afternoon that the immigration officials could not process the claims. they would have to spend the night on the mexican side of the border. it was only the latest twist in the immigration drama that have played out in relative of security in recent years. that is -- in recent years." that is the topic of discussion later on with brandon judd.
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we spent the first half hour on this idea of the level of faith you have in america's democratic system. you can give us example of what you believe in or don't, and the level of faith have or don't have or don'tyou have by calling the lines for republicans, democrats, and independents, and post on twitter and facebook. todd is next. pittsburgh, pennsylvania. caller: one quick statement of fact, ended and opinion. actually, bernie sanders has a correct. 5% of the population controls 90% of the wealth. secondly, the misconception that , it isllers have .taggering your issue is on immigration. host: actually we are talking about the faith in the american
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democratic system and the elements there, asking people to tell us what your level of faith is. caller: yes sir. the money and the news media controls most of the value judgments that the masses seem to conjure up, but your callers seem to validate and authenticate that. host: mark is next in ashburn, virginia. caller: just a couple of comments. , a lot of the callers have been speaking so far with a disparaging view. . there never was a promise. our country. -- there never was a promise. our country is an ideal that we live toward, but you can never expected to be perfect. if you compare us to any nation currently or in history, we are an exceptional nation in many respects.
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fundamentally positive in our country, but i do agree with the previous oligarchicalthe element to keep in check those who have wealth and power. do that better than we are doing currently. host: let's go to elena in illinois. caller: good morning. my face in the democracy of in the -- my faith democracy of america would improve greatly if each vote would count. elevate the electoral vote. people died in the past for my right, the descendents of americans, to have the right to vote. a dollar. makes each vote makes 100 votes. so eliminate the electoral vote. wouldth in america
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improve if they could improve the budget in chicago and cook county. just taking a look at my wages and the increase of property taxes, it is appalling because sooner or later, a lot of people are taxed right out of their home. keep pace of much money and making a lot of sacrifices to get the mortgage paid off, and then you are out taxed. that is my comment about america this morning. host: let's hear from someone else on our republican line, norm in oklahoma. caller: hello. good morning. i just got a quick comment. wouldn't matter how you raise your kids. everyone wants to raise their kids to grow up respecting as soon as but
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they get through 12th grade and they go to college, they are going to have a chance of being indoctrinated into who knows what. when hillary clinton and the dnc can get caught red-handed rigging the primaries and there's no repercussions for it so far, is there any justice anywhere? that is my question. host: reaction still coming in from saturday's white house correspondents association dinner from michelle wolf, the comedian. "the daily news" highlighting the fact that several reporters. the act went to far when it came to sarah sanders. nbc news' andrea mitchell suggesting the comedian apologize, saying she was the worst since don imus needled the
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clintons in 1996. others compared it to stephen speech inlivering his colbert report" character for george w. bush. her jokes were not scre ened. the dinner and monologue come everything associated with the white house correspondents dinner, is available at you can see and judge for yourself as far as its content. from ohio on the independent
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line, this idea of your level of faith in the democratic system and the united dates. go ahead. caller: i appreciated. unfortunately it is pretty bad. i think democracy originally the concept was actually born in slavery. throughout american history, i don't think there has been a "odyssey" that have -- "democracy" that has lasted more than 300 or 400 years. it is really a political philosophy. we don't have a political doctrine of democracy. we are a republic. that requires everyone to understand your civic duty and do their part to know what is going on. unfortunately the way the system is, it doesn't facilitate that. we get the kind of government we deserve. most people don't appreciate the ,act that the rules of the game
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if you don't deny things in the right way with the right form at the right time and that kind of stuff, then you are guilty. that is not very fair that doesn't play in my idea with what i learned is to the concept of democracy. host: let's go to jamestown, north carolina. democrats line. caller: good morning. i would have more faith in ifocracy and our country first we adopted the european system -- excuse me -- of representative democracy, whereby at the state and federal level, get away from the two-party system and have all parties represented within the state level and federal level. we overturnedf citizens united, and most importantly i would like to see a national primary day whereby
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all the states vote for primaries for their potential candidates in march. that way the citizenry would have to learn who the candidates are. they would have to support various candidates, we get away from various states having undue influence in who would be our representatives. those are the three points i would like to make. representative democracy, get ,way from the electoral college also get rid of citizens united, and finally have a national primary day. host: an explosion in afghanistan in the early morning hours hickenlooper "-- morning hours. "the guardian" reporting that 25 people have died in a double suicide bombing in central kabul
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monday morning, including a camera operator for a local tv station and a press photographer after the second bomber blew himself up among the rescue workers and reporters who had rushed to the scene. at least 45 people were wounded. , the first suicide bomber was on a motorbike. it was the latest in a string of deadly high scale bombings so far this year. walt in wisconsin. go ahead. your next up. independent line. faith incaller: i have our system of government as it was originally set up. fact that we the .o not have term limits
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host: go ahead. caller: i believe that the are spending money, putting us in debt to the point that we may well go broke. i wonder if we will not become like russia in 1991 when they went broke. host: ok. eric in california from compton. democrats line. caller: good morning, america. we have to realize america is beautiful. we were called to america to live alongside. there's a corrupt state which we call the united states of corruption. it is divided, led by president donald trump. and then we have the church state. the church state is wealthy.
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there's no corruption in the church state. the church state is fine. but you have to make a choice. you either work for god, or do you work for the united states of america? nothing wrong with it, but the united states of america is corrupted. caller: let's hear from jeff in maryland, independent line. caller: i would just like to say that if we are going to stop the of our bestis perverted mess of our republic, we will first have to start in public schools and change the government classes and start teaching kids what socialism is, what communism is, what the difference between fascism and a republic is. we think we are a democracy, but in reality we are a republic. -- asas far in your faith far as your faith in the democratic system? caller: i don't have any faith
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in the democratic system because it is built on lies. host: such as what? caller: just like the gentleman was saying before about the electoral college. it is "american idol," you can get your actual vote in. why are we waiting for representatives to represent us will make an represent ourselves. we just need a dramatic shift change in the way these millennials and even baby boomers are taught what government really is. right now they are arguing in rhetoric. the dogma of america is disgusting, and we need to change it. host: "the washington times" this morning taking a look at actions from north and south korea and how that might sway talks with the north koreans. trump administration is growing and confidence that the upcoming summit with kim jong-un will achieve the aggressive denuclearization timeline washington wants.
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secretary of state mike pompeo saying the north korean leader is "serious" about abandoning his nuclear program. the north korean leader said outright during a meeting with the south korean president that illing to give them up totally if the pledge never to attack north korea. newly sworn in secretary of state mike pompeo in israel on a stop on his way there, currently talking to one of the shows about north korea, had this to say. >> we know the history. >> we know the risks. we are going to be very different. we are going to negotiate in a different way that has done before. we use the word irreversible with great intention. we will use irreversible steps that demonstrate denuclearization is going to be achieved. we are going to look for actions
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and deeds. until such time, the president has made it exactly clear that we will keep the plan in place until we achieve that. in each case, we will have actually have to deliver and i have come -- an outcome. >> you look into his eyes. you spent more than an hour with him and said it was a good conversation. the president said it was a good conversation that was developed. the president has also called in a madman. he is not alone in calling him a than men. how do you build a relationship with somebody who is seen as a madman? i am not one to do much about navelgazing or eyes staring. i am looking for actions. we have built a diplomatic coalition to put pressure on consumer and.
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it is the objective of our administration to achieve the outcome. that is what we will be looking for between the president and kim jong-un. host: if you go to the opinion page of "the washington post" this morning, democratic senator tim kaine in an op-ed writing that it is time for congress to act. "we should take at the limited authority the president thinks what actionsine the president can and cannot -- take against , and clarifyups that military action against a sovereign nation come except to defend the united states from imminent attack, requires congressional approval."
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this authorization forces congress to consider where and whom our military is fighting. others have argued this bill would be a forfeiture of war powers to the president. an open-ended forever war with a quadrennial congressional review. most important, a clarify that the president cannot use this authorization to wage war on any nation, including iran, north korea, syria. your level of faith in the american democratic system, donald and kentucky, republican line. your next. go ahead -- donald in kentucky. republican line. you are next. go ahead. caller: my level of faith in american democracy in a scale out of 10 is probably an eight.
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the things that concern me the most is the supreme court decisions and citizens united. unlimited campaign funds. they really got it -- they really gutted the right to vote. those things bother me the most about how our democracy is doing . are thends of things first step toward an autocracy. continued demeaning and complaining about the freedom of the press and our justice department.
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it is horrible. for a democracy at its face in our constitution. host: donald calling in. saying, off of twitter "because the constitution does not guarantee a perfect union, nearly a more perfect one. if you think there's not been 50,ress in 200 come 100, 25, or even 10 years, you aren't paying attention." minnesota, line for democrats. bob is next. caller: morning. that for taking my call. there's two things that are threatening democracy right now. one are the lobbyists. they keep gaining more and more control over how the government is run.
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the other is that we've got a that is dishonest. trump keepsout why calling mueller a democrat when he knows that he is a longtime republican. it because he knows republicans will believe him because they don't want the truth to get in the way of their ideology. he's got a group of followers that, no matter how many times he lives or what he says, they becauseg to follow them their ideology means more to them than the truth. host: the leaders of three countries getting together to talk about the future and state of the iran nuclear deal.
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britain,aying it is france, and germany agreeing that the deal president donald trump has plans to scrap remains the best way of getting rid of iranian nuclear weapons, go not to say that may phone called and angelael macron merkel, and agree that the they continue working closely together and with the u.s. on how to tackle the range of cheap paris on iran. leaders from france and germany in washington last week with the french president addressing congress on a large scale about the iran nuclear deal. the german chancellor will bring it up as well. both are available to you on
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it was on the sunday show at one ,f those democratic senators chris coons talking about foreign affairs on fox news sunday. i think this is a terrific opportunity for president trump, who made his reputation as a builder, to build on the iran nuclear deal and deal with the areas that were not fully resolved. the ballistic missile program, support for terrorism in the region, the terrible human rights record. it is a dangerous, threatening regime. president trump can successfully ally -- ia potential think these would be positive things that i would support. host: next up from florida, this is randy on our independent line. caller: hello.
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i just think that there is just too much corporate influence money in politics today. a lobbyist or someone out of control, where the first sets that have got to be removing money. give more people a chance to voice their opinions. host: if you remove money from the equation, how do people get informed about the political system? money is involved in that. caller: that is true. part of the problem that happens since money has gotten involved or will with the post office is that the regulation will allow the media to go nuts. media needs to go back to serving the people and informing the people as opposed to their rhetoric. that includes time for all candidates to sell their wares. host: republican line from alabama. we will your next from greg. caller: good morning.
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it just depends if you look at democracies in the past that have failed. they implode from within with the will of the people is failed to be executed. it seems as though if you take a close look at the pharmaceuticals and what they have done with the opioids, and take a look at what has happened with the will -- what has happened, it is not the will of the people. the will of the people hasn't been executed for years. i still have faith in our democracy. i still feel we are in a good place and still able to correct the course. host: what do you look at as far as evidence of that good place you described. caller: i will tell you what.
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if you just look at the big picture -- i get so frustrated i -- theardly watch tv comedians spew hate every night on late night tv, and i watch the conspiracya, news network and the other one that is just praise for the president. i long for the days of walter cronkite, or i could just get the facts. i still feel that the people of america are so unhappy. they sent a message when trump was elected, whether everyone watched or not. we got what we got. i think people are unhappy and still looking to make a change. i think this administration was somewhat of a change, although the money still flows into washington and they failed to get the message. i think eventually america will send a strong enough nation that they have to be attention. host: the united states plans to
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send trade delegation to china this week on matters of trade, tariffs, and other issues. "the washington post -- "the wall street journal" reporting "buying ofwould be more u.s. goods to back the trade deficit, and to negotiate a u.s. china for a deal -- u.s.-china trade deal, but there are limits on how far beijing will go. it is crucial to china's competitiveness and will not profit the value of what you want, according to the help with u.s. exports. jamie and marilyn, independent line. good morning.
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caller: yes. my views are kind of divided about things. like what president obama did in terms of returning power to the judges. i know that that was going in the right direction. is thing that we understand family structure. with thet has to do three biggest things that are ,hreatening america, education the unfair justice system, and our health care system. i think that we can all agree with those things. of course, the money is an
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issue. wealth, you can make your way. host: let's go to justin in new york. caller: i was just going to say that in order for there to be true democracy, it would have to be democracy in the american workplace and public control over multinational corporations. lot of power was ceded to the privates beer. as long as we get some of that back -- to the private sphere. host: how would that practically work out if you brought more control to those areas you highlighted? -- so, thingsld
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like telecom services, even facebook, those could be brought under public control by either having the state run it or the users co-owner i guess oversight over these companies who increasingly rule our lives. host: what makes you think that oversight would lead to a better company? caller: it would make it more responsive to the people, especially like people get to vote, but don't get control over the things that really impact lives hickenlooper because -- impact their lives. getting started this morning on faith in the democratic system. , growth inbusiness the u.s. dollar and overall from "the wall street journal," "yields on treasury
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bonds dropped for the first time since 2014, the economy were -- went over 3% for the first time since 2014, evidence that part of the economy of returning to more normal conditions after a long hadtch when bonds yields lowered near historic lows. the u.s. economy grew at 2.3% in the first quarter, expanding faster than the 1.8% analysis expected. a rise in employment-cost index signaled rising wages. now your last call. robert, go ahead. losing the reason i am my faith in the americredit -- in the democratic system in
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america is because we have elected a president who has insisted on hiding his tax has helped people like him and him. that is my comment. host: that is the last call on this topic from robert in north carolina. coming up, we are going to talk about lessons learned from the last election when it comes to issues like outside influences, aging voting machine security come along voting lines for some. we are going to talk those of thewith john fortier bipartisan policy center and what they are doing as far as looking at these systems and seeing the improvements. also we continue on with our c-span's 50 capitals tour today. governor john later in the program on issues affecting his state including how marijuana is doing in that state. ♪
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continues. journal" fortierining us is john with the bipartisan policy center. remind us what the by part -- bipartisan policy center does. is a think tank which tries to incorporate the views of both parties which reaches consensus and compromise on a number of issues. we worked with a commission appointed in 2013 were president obama appointed his lawyer and mitt romney's lawyer to try and reach consensus as to what we do to improve the way we run the machinery of the election. show what did the process and how have we improved since the initial findings came out? we need to work on our
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voter registration system and modernize that. ability tole the register online, allow people to share data, and second, the president was concerned about lines at the polling places. is a tricky issue but many voting systems put in are now aging and could use updating. one thing that came up in the last election we had was security. did we tackle that unwanted we learn particularly when it comes to voting machines and voting technology? guest: people talk about the way our elections are under attack but that could be a lot of things. opinions on social media, that is a difficult set of issues.
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there are two sets of issues. could someone actually go into machines that cast ballots and change results? we saw a little more activity on this front. for you to go change your address or voting status. i would say there is work to be done and some news has overstated what happened in the last election. there were no votes changed. while not perfectly secure and we can work on them, there is no evidence any vote was ever changed in a -- in the election .n america there has been overstating of the issue. the homeland security department states probed 21 in some way. most of what it means is, like there was looking at whether one could get through the firewall of various protections, but only a couple
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of cases where someone got in and saw some voter restriction --a cared we note not of any there are things to be done to fix them but some of the rhetoric and reporting has overstated what actually happened. election votes were not changed. host: voting election systems and topics -- will be our topic. if you have questions -- host: when it comes to states, looking at machines and registration systems, how are they updating that as we head to this election and future ones? not that long that we have had a technological solution.
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back with the florida election, only seven states had a statewide computerized database. there are many states that now allow an individual to register , that is all progress but there are security issues. open up the process to people changing things, it actor to-- another come do things. on the whole, there are a lot of protections built into the system. register to vote, you are not changing the database directly. you're putting your name in there and there are a lot of checking and protections for the voter. a postcard if they move, and if you have a problem with the bowling print -- polling place, you can cast the initial ballot per a lot of human precautions are taken. some could use updating. there is growing cooperation
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between the federal government, especially dhs, and local officials. that was a tricky and bumpy road and it is something good for us going forward. host: the topic is updating the machines and the processes they are going through. there will soon be changes in the way we cast our ballots. why the end of next year, every county in the state would have voting machines, and several vendors gathered in harrisburg -- possible options. >> you can go back and forth. >> we are seeing what is out
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there and trying to make up our mind and we will go from there. >> let's go from the paper ballot. is this a move in a lot of states are making? >> there have been two types of systems. one looks like an atm machine where you touch the screen. the other is a piece of paper. sometimes the atm machine has a backup piece of paper. moving to some sort -- some form of paper voting. i think generally the market is such that any that buys new systems will move in that direction. i would not save at every state vulnerable, but that is the general trend and having a backup system, preferably paper but perhaps an electronic backup, is important for the voter to know that the way they cast the valid is the way this will be counted. how prepared are the states in the financial aspect and do they get help from the federal government to do that?
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guest: more can be done on this. we had a big infusion of federal money and that was going time in our history where the federal government provided the money buy new was used to voting machines. those systems are aging. of securityestions but also general unit -- usability. some of those are at the end of their lifetime. we see it will not solve the problem in full and may use more for other purposes. they will need more money for state purposes as well p or do it is a challenge for the next five years for many states to update those machines for the next round of technology. talking to ustier about voter systems. our first call is from diane, pennsylvania, democrats line. go ahead. caller: how are you today?
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about voting systems. statingtleman is nothing has been proved that anything has been tampered with but there has not been a full investigation which i have been told over and over again and see on tv that there is no full investigation. there cannot be any proof without a full investigation. guest: the caller asks a good question for we have a big decentralized voting system in america. it is the case that each jurisdiction is doing, and has many procedures in place to look at votes and after the fact. our commission recommended a series of audits that should be done. risk audit which
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looks at whether the votes are cast as we expected them to. there are broader audit procedures for states to look into. there is a lot of checking on this and a lot of places on the way that the voter and voting officials look at the results and have a good sense of security. there is more we can do, and there is not one national audit. it is one function but there is a lot being done and goodwill will and good work being done at the local level. host: waldorf, maryland, independent line. first, a statement. people have been calling up with the first question about a democracy and a republic. can you imagine what it would be like if every morning, we had to get up and create a true democracy and had to vote on a computer every morning on the
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questions before us asked the american people -- host: address your comets are questions to the guest here. caller: a democracy and a republic in its sure sense because at the end of the day, don't our representatives represent what we believe and vote for us in a real democratic fashion? thebody go ahead and define difference between a republic and -- host: we will leave it there. mason in ohio, democrats line, go ahead. caller: why haven't we had all the states simply go sample their votes comparing paper reported tootes verify there was no interference with the reported votes from the various precincts? reported to they can do sampling. that is what i did. in accounting. it is a very good way to audit a system. good question there there
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are a lot of procedures out there to check the veracity of votes. states are doing auditing. colorado has made a big push in this direction. it is a very scientific survey. it depends on the number of votes and how close it was and how those are randomly selected from different parts of the jurisdiction. that is done widely and we expect more states will do. i think you are right that is a good procedure. host: on twitter -- host: we will get your thoughts on that but this idea, is there a discussion going on of how ?hese votes are systemwide id card,tional voter there are things parties do not
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agree on. our commission tries to tell you what we can agree on. try to update them with the systems. after florida, the statewide voter registration system required by the national are required to have the provisional options so if something goes wrong, casting there areand certainly national laws that apply but we have a strong history of federalism. from very small towns holding elections. a lot will persist. marcus is in maryland, democrats line. caller: good morning.
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i wanted to ask whether you and your group had considered whether or not most cutting edge technology is necessarily the compared to less brand-new technology that may have more public scrutiny and had those kinds of things troubleshoot it already? that is my question. >> it is a good question and we do not have a specific recommendation on that. the caller is right that certain forms of paper have a simplicity. ballot likeout the a standardized test, that is a simple thing. you haveses breakdown, the opportunity to have those ballots counted at a later time. i think the market has moved to that direction because of simplicity and the changeability of those types of systems that do not require as much maintenance. photo registration, how
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easy is it in the u.s. to register to vote? guest: online registration is nearly in 40 states. there are all sorts of opportunities especially the department of motor vehicles. that is where we focus going back 20 years or so that are supposed to get the opportunity to update or register for the first time. you can go online. there are ways of doing it with voter registration laws. i think it is pretty easy to voters do not always realize they often have to reregister. that is a challenge but is coming become -- becoming easier. host: what options for those who may not have access to a voter id? idst: some have a full voter requirement.
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but there are places that require non-photo id and other places require you to sign a book or state your name. a wide variety of practices for identifying yourself. independent line is next. you are on, good morning. caller: good morning. will make this simple like our elections should be. the reason we're using all of these machines is to combo kit things, and crockery. you are talking about a paper backup. why not just go to paper all the way around like the rest of the world and kick the crooks and the machines out? thank you. guest: it's a good question. the complication sometime leads to the technology. is so muchsystem more complex than any other in the world. especially in terms of the number of races that we vote for.
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you do not just vote for the president and senator. we vote for governor and state legislature and treasury and secretary of state down to dog and corner auditor ballot ballot questions. sometimes they will make 50 choices on a valid. it is hard to count by hand. out by paper, it may -- maybe it could be counted by hand but the technology has come from the fact that we choose to allow voters to weigh on offices most countries only allow two or three choices of the top and only a couple of x's on paper ballots every four years. host: out by paper, it may -- maybe it could are they d use when it comes to voting technology? we have not replaced all
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of our machines everywhere at the same time. somely speaking, we have that have paper trails and some that don't. we have paper ballots filled out somehow by the vote -- by the voter and scanned. are the machines easily hacked? is it more where they go on their stored? i would stress a few things. the voting machines you vote on at a polling place are not connected with each other or the internet. there are security conscious people who worry about the voting of the ballots onto those machines and other ways which indirectly people might get it. and i think we should put some security procedures in place for that. some people have the impression that if you are voting machine, that is connected to a much broader thing and that is not
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the case. it would be difficult in the sense of having to go find a number of different individual machines to get at. cane there are people who show you this in the lab, it is a lot harder in person. i will not discount it especially with a partner on the inside, someone working for the election system with access to things on the other side, we should worry about these things. broadly speaking, the election machine your voting on, not connected in a way that allows a mass attack. host: carl in maryland, independent line. i would like to echo the response from linda in florida. she is right. a number two pencil and a paper ballot. should be checked randomly by the people volunteering and the polling places. electronics, and
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electronics can be hacked into. thank you. are there flaws or concerns with the paper systems he is describing? guest: they are very complicated ballots. the time would take very long. state with a scannersed system has a count the ballot, and those are there for a recount scanner count the or a canvassing of the polling place and could be looked at and if we were worried about a particular race, they could be in the background but hand counts, when it gets down to the smallest and numbers, they are it -- there are issues with that. nothing is perfect. having some checks, those are the types of things we do to make sure the ballots as cast are the ones. host: waiting on in order to
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vote. how is that it -- how is that improved or not? made apresident obama point about this in 2012 and was one of the reasons he appointed a commission. it is not an issue for most people but the minority who do, some weight what a long time. what we are trying to do with a report that just came out, it is just to get election officials to measure, how many people are standing in line every hour at every polling place? it is sometimes a resource problem where there is just not enough pipeline to get the voters through, and it is something unexpected sometimes. the power goes out. but we need to know more. a couple of hundred counties across the country now, really measuring closely and getting serious about al any resources and how voters can improve the experience. i would point to michigan.
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virginia and michigan have participation and both the local level and the state in those cases have really taken it seriously. want to collect the data and look at it and say where -- here are our problems and how do we adjust them. host: independent line, john. caller: yesterday evening, i was listening to a great c-span and there was a lawyer who talked about how the independent media outlets have gone to a consortium to do exit polling across the states. the election in 2016, when he got the exit polling results, it was a gut punch. as they went back and looked, exit polling numbers from colorado were there. colorado went to an all -- voting system in 2016. it was literally impossible for
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them to get exit polls in colorado. they went back and looked and said all of the exit polling numbers where malarkey, they were bowl. who set up the consortium and who is auditing the exit polling validating could be these false numbers in the first place? there are problems with the polling industry. the caller points to a big trend, we do a lot more voting before election day than we used to. up to about 40% of people. exit polls try to account for that and ask people, they know that some percentage of people have done that and they asked how they have done this before. pervert science and it is one thing they are trying to way to make things more act or it. california, a recent story with polling places
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with five counties, what they are calling mega voting centers. do you think about new ways of getting people to vote? guest: broadly speaking it is a good idea. early voting, especially across a county. might be able to vote near an office or on your route and whatever is more convenient for you. is it does have a complexity. going from one pole to another. , it does at for people a level of convenience consistent with modern life and we might want to vote from this pattern. host: los angeles on the independent line. go ahead. caller: good morning. there is a lot of pushback on technology.
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i think technology is inevitable and it makes our lives better. maybe that is debatable. seeould be interesting to this technology implemented with registration. a decentralized system. source of one verification. you have hundreds of sources of verification. lot less audits. it could be interesting to see someone like that. guest: i am not enough of an expert to tell you all about i thinkain technology, something that was too slow, not needed. the other thing is what kind of verification we would talk
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about. make sure everyone cast votes the way they're supposed to. see -- secrecyet of the ballot. itt is one thing that makes with plaque make the case as you see it, in the national voting election. i did a book about the electoral college years back and it is hard to imagine one could go one way and one could go the other way. we have that happen in the last election. that wea worrying sign might have a widening gap might put some strain on it. on the positive side, we vote by .tate
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we have different elections in different states. at least for now unless we contemplate an enormous change in how we run elections, the electoral college were you vote your state and whether you win key,tate were not is a that is something consistent with our system. i won people that changing that would mean changing more than you think. our guest is the director of the democracy project, the bipartisan policy center. if you want to read more. tom is in texas, republican line. >> good morning. the first time i came across a voting fraud issue was 1980 or in silicon valley. a member overheard a member of the democrat central committee bragging that they could pull a switch and elect any democrat in any election. investigativean
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effort on behalf of republicans to find out what the to voting andas technology. in the process of investigating, they were required to accept what is called blackbox reasoning. they could not verify what was going on within the machine and just had to accept the manufacturer's word for it. this carries on throughout every argument you have about technology even up to today. we have to rely on blackbox reasoning. i do not think that is acceptable and we should go back to jimmy carter and the way he handled things in the third world. host: thanks. we talked about paper before. that is the way our system is moving, more than 7% of systems have a paper component. the point as the caller would
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agree, is the voter has the opportunity to verify the ballots themselves. you hope the machine recorded as you see come you actually see the ballot and know what you wrote. that gives voters some comfort. there is some worry that they do not look at the ballots as carefully as they might, especially they throw them into the scanner and are not as careful but's some voters verify , problems can be ferreted out if they exist. one more call from loretto in florida, democrats line. guest: thank you for taking my call. i'm 82 years old. barely 21, i started working for elections commissions on the voting. used the -- method at one time. -- method.
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at one time, you click a lever and a lever and that recorded everything. at any rate, the method, i remember checking, when they the little card things, all they check is to be sure everything is set at zero. there are programs in those little carts that go in. programmedhat can be him to come up with any results anyone wanted to. the caller is right that many people remember the big oki lever machines of the past. they seemed secure but they have the same sorts of issues the caller noted. a leverlly were just that turned a dial and there was no way of checking whether that was done properly or not.
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is a think there significant pre-election checking and preparing of machines. but some of the voters have been talking about other ways of verifiability through a paper towel it -- outlet. i think we have pretty solid evidence we have both parties watching out for an elected officials trying to make sure machines are programmed in a proper way. we also have other ways to check it. we talked about other types of systems and voting. guest: they now have a database they can look at for their own state. registration databases. there are a number of programs now where the states are able to talk to each other.
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one of our problems is if you move from florida to maryland or you have two homes, two houses, that the rules do not get cleaned up as quickly as you might hope. usually it is sort of messiness in the system but there is a lot of cross state differences in voter registration. the programs the state now operate voluntarily and they share data and it is really improving the way we follow voters to make sure their registered in the right place in an action -- accurate way. john fortier, thank you for your time. we have open phones coming up until 9:00. -- , thank you for your time. forget, our c-span capital tour continues on in colorado today.
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in the modern era. in my world, the u.s. not regulating even when we see that problems. the eu regulating a lot even more than they should. >> primetime on c-span. washington journal continues. host: it is open phones and you can post on the twitter feed and our facebook page at events concerning north korea, this is the front page of the new york post this morning. let's make a deal. of my nukes if the u.s. promises not to invade. the president of the united states tweeting with the potential future meeting, countries being considered in the meeting.
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to opening, -- let's go phones. go ahead. >> good morning. how much faith i have in the .epublic it is being rebuilt by donald trump, doing away with the progressive movement for global government and he is bringing us to more nationalist than globalist. i am fully in agreement with that. there has been a conspiracy to overthrow the government. they are talking about people committing crimes. togetherll the people and they have all been communicating with each other.
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there is in fact a conspiracy to overthrow. no one is talking about that and that is the crux of the issue today. in west virginia, democrats line. >> thank you, c-span. best program on tv. my concern is gerrymandering the districts. , what iginia understand, we have 55 -- state senate, laid out in 17 districts. us 34 with a gives simple majority of 18. it is the majority of 55 counties.
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the majority is being gerrymandered and left out. host: ok. that is paul in west virginia. for republicans -- to the los angeles daily news, it talks about teenage voters. register to vote in the future of elections saying it is a state program that lost in september of 2016, more than 100,000 young people reregister as 16 and 17-year-olds, now eligible for the franchise. turning 18 as of this month, including more than 26,000 preregistered, about 1700 in orange county, 59 hundred in riverside county and just under 2700 in san bernardino county. ground floorng the of student activism in response to president trump passes
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policies, everything from administration to the environment, a mass shooting in parkland, florida. that is from the los angeles daily use this morning. from those in quality on a, -- in guatemala, featuring a photo. couple -- the cover of the front page. thoughtsce to give us on the previous ones you want to comment on, -- host: ceos of t-mobile and
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sprint both announce the video. >> today, we are announcing that t-mobile and sprint have reached a definitive agreement to come together and form a new stronger country -- company that will andrcharge the strategy lower prices across wireless and video rod band, that will create thousands of new american and jobs and the only company with the capacity for the nationwide five g network. the website says if the deal goes through, the jobs and the merger, with at&t, customers t-mobile, and sprint. they have to walk a fine line with reginald -- regulators of a hook to get the deal through. wheeler,chairman tom
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that regulators would be skeptical. in 2011, the justice department byd the proposed deal under president trump passes fcc, spent t-mobile might have a sympathetic audience, in the merger announcement. accelerates, in the technology. new york, from anthony, good morning, go ahead. >> i'm retired since 2004. miller, a very --
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america is not aware of what was done. it to almost every working american citizen. but c-span never has on anything about that. far, i know of 2 million who have lost pensions. i lost three quarters of my pension, 1000 and month. it is very hard to make ends meet this way. social security does not cut it. >> thinks for the suggestion. live done plenty when it comes to pension security. go to the video library and you can see some segments with events taken in and hearings on that topic. a lot of broad topics with
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pensions. .ou can also go to the website last saturday at the white house correspondents dinner, with sunday from the comedian, and the comedy routine on saturday. while honoring civility and great and not sayde people going on to the monologue was not in the spirit of that mission. the dinner and the monologue also the subject of a president trump tweet this morning saying the correspondents dinner is it. as we know a total disaster and embarrassment to the great country and it all stands for
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fake news alive and well and beautifully represented saturday night. he is talking about the rally. saturday.lace the website, watch the correspondents dinner if you want. to >> i started the patient rights movement by writing the book, informed consent. we have lost our rights and i had to put up with donald trump who could not get into any club except for the one he owned. he was an embarrassment to everybody.
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the taking down of the new york stock exchange, the revolving door between wall street and congress, we do not have health , it is so simple and we are all human beings. the money comes first. as americans and human beings, we demand that human life matters, it comes first before anything else and nothing without ae multidisciplinary look at the consequences of what is going to happen. arnold in tennessee,
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democrats line. my name is arnold joseph white and i have written a book people need to read. it is free. it is just online, not for sale. i am trying to help people understand how much love is the answer. we have to start loving each other. about the voting irregularities. for 11oking documentaries that the most is the one made by a man who used to live here in nashville called the new math of america -- american
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elections. it lays out as plainly as you can have easy it is to regulate try quoting machines. it deals with the story of a man named clint curtis who in 2000 was asked, a congressman, tom feeney, a republican in florida, to create voting software for electronic voting machines. >> james in wichita, kansas, good morning. you are up. you are on. >> my point is the civics education in the night must be at an end. high schools no longer teaching the constitution or anything of the basic nature of the united
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states. your first question was dishonest. is in the states constitution as a representative republic. so are the states. so, many of the calls to the or a text for the constitution. host: ok. florida, republican line, mary, hello. caller: michelle wolf, really didn't know her until i watched her on election night and she said "how did this happen?" now that was funny. host: thoughts about the performance last week? caller: why does she think she is so great?
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her voice is screeching. so that is what i wanted to say. thank you. if you want to watch her --formance last saturday, the washington times highlighting the report from the election committee. collusion between the president's 2016 campaign. some reaction says this flowed directly. the republican was extremely , and they called on more information and the matter of credibility, to be as transparent as possible with their investigation.
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report has failed to meet the standard. devin nunes, the committee chairman said they joined mr. the transparency in indianapolis, democrats line, good morning. caller: a comment on the iran deal, which the president will print much walk away from for on next couple of weeks chinese and russian, and democrats on the sideline to
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for the country, for it is better to walk away and do the same thing again. it is not a good day for the world. host: mike pence at arty agreed to appear at the annual meeting of the gun rights group. routine for the u.s. secret service to ban weapons and the band has been mocked, calling it hypocritical.
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dallasearms in the morning news. if you are responding at the dinner, -- host: conrad in new jersey, democrats line. caller: in 1979 when the american hostages were taken into iran, $150 million of their money in the united states were frozen. suspend --d to
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nothing of the kind of he returned. emphasis on that word. money,llion of their they decide to -- nuclear testing. this says the deal, how does he just listen to -- listen to the president speak. here is the problem. if iran decides to go back to reprocessing its nuclear weapons program, while the other people who signed onto the treaty, they will not join the united states in the land war. for the united states to go on it alone --
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host: margaret, the current president of the association, is disingenuous in her remarks. #i'm with michelle. calling on our independent line, go ahead. caller: i'm calling about an friday, april 27. ofre is a photograph president donald trump surrounded by kids in the oval office in celebration of bring our daughters and sons to work day in washington on thursday. i just want to read a short bit. president donald trump treated the children of white house journalists to an overall -- oval office visit and many of them he criticizes, he left outside looking to the window. "your parents are being so nice right now, i can't believe it,"
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said trump, who regularly rails against the media. to president chose the -- the white house on take our daughters and sons to work day, he told them that their mothers and fathers were just being none -- nice because "they don't want to be embarrassed in front of all of you. my point is that is not morally right for a man, the president, to try and come between children and their parents. let's go to howard in pennsylvania, republican line. i would like to comment on michelle wolf. i think she is ignorant. i don't think c-span should carry that kind of stuff. as far as what she said, what makes her ignorant, in your
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mind? caller: the tampons and all this and that you claim to be a family program. now, i watch a lot of c-span every morning. inauguration, you , andtwo white entertainers you had a black man up on the soapbox. when a person calls in and --tions know,just to let you regardless of inauguration, we are these things in total. that is part of the mission. i know some of the comment to's -- content to some may be offensive or undesirable, but that is the way we do things. -- they mention palacio and you said -- i didyou just said it and not cut you off. independence line. caller: whenever you open your
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sayram, i would like you to $21 trillion. are you hearing me? host: why? caller: we are in serious trouble. i would like to know when this will end. this is so important. no one talks about the debt this company owes. people that know what is going on and discuss the $21 trillion. when will it end? that is the most important thing going on right now. host: the race is being considered this year, in florida, --
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but also highlights similar fights last year in new jersey democratic , andidates prefer gubernatorial candidates. democrats went on to handle the g.o.p. candidate. host: republican line, this is danny. caller: when president obama was resident, press briefings and
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correspondent dinners were were y respectful, they largely favorable to both the press secretary and the president. have somebody like michelle wolf, i don't think indication better of how much white house, the white house press corps hates resident trump and will do anything or say anything or spend unlimited amount of time michelle wolf. i thought it was extremely classless. thought the journalism business, i am not in it now, ut embarrassed, i would not have wanted to be a journalist sitting in that room, listening lowest brawl humor in most attacking, harsh, rankous, it was so offensive and for people in to defend michelle wolf just shows the level they'll get donald host: the "u.s.a. today" this morning takes a look at the cases yet rt and
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still to be decided by the court the categories, immigration being one of them. travelp, the president's ban against five predominantly countries constitutional? that question has lingered, it both grounds. if you want to hear audio, go to rights and , gay religious liberty, can a baker customizes in wedding cakes -- how partisan with state legislators be when districts without violating voter constitutional rights? the justices heard a wisconsin in october and maryland case in march when they baffled solutions and must rule on election maps in texas, challenger say discriminate racial and ethnic
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minorities. couple things of note when it comes to the supreme court. a lot of the major court cases, hings we highlight on segments or other aspects of c-span programming. if guto our website, the court audio of what goes on between the debate between the thesees and those arguing cases. many time we will take the udio, put pictures of who is talking so they don't release video, you can hear the cases for yourself. website at ur i want to let you know about andmark cases series on monday nights 9:00 taking a look at significant supreme court cases, ot only for what they mattered when they were being debated back when, but how they influence us today. see a lineup of those cases, particularly what is being debated or discussed tonight, there is our website, invite tou go to, archive video, resources if, good you are interested in that sort of thing. landmark series
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cases. texas, independent line. thanks for calling on open phones, go ahead. you so much. your gentleman that you had on the voting and democracy, democracy project, every time i hear democracy, it is like a me.ger word for and john adams had a definition, he says democracy, while it even is more bloody than arstock rase or monarchy. long, it never lasts soon wastes exhausts and murders itself. is never a democracy that did not commit suicide. we got to get back to being constitutional republic and get of this democracy word. connecticut, rom thanks for calling, you are next up, republican line. caller: hello.
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host: hi. caller: first of all, i would like to say for the first time my life, that we've ever had our at president like president we have now, president trump. j. second of all, i live in connecticut and as most people know, this is a sanctuary city, in ell you how bad it is this state. for if the sanctuary poor are really hurting people, you know, people struggling to make it through or whatever, gas up, tolls, nickel and diming everybody to death. comedian, wolf, whatever, disgrace to the country. people like that should not be practice free speech,
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if you ask my opinion. go after e going to eople maliciously, which i think she did. host: okay, nancy in connecticut viewertter this morning, says the most offensive part of saturday evening, not one policy maker mentioned the citizens of flint, michigan. michelle wolf did. that is truly offensive. it comes to border crossing talking about, elliot spaingot, for associated press this morning saying after through mexico with great fanfare for a month under the trump administration eye, 200 central american migrants attempting to asylum were stopped when border inspector says crossing facility didn't have enough accommodate them. the president vowed to stop the members saidabinet they would deliver swift response. seekers held strong.
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some were allowed to walk across the long bridge, but stopped at at the ection facility other end and allowed to wait outside the building technically a word an soil without of whether u.s. officials would asylum. claim u.s. backpacks d on prohibited from getting close to the inspection building. line,on, texas, democrat's next from patricia. caller: yes, how you doing? host: fine, thank you. the reason i'm call i
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host: mark, go ahead, you're on. caller: hilarious to listen to people complaining about the commodian, like the lady things ter all the donald trump has said, i'm sitting here laughing at them, they are.ive when donald trump can go around females and family members, saying lock her up and arguments stitutional that are hilarious, but republicans, we're sitting back ya, have a good morning., calling from host: viewer from twitter say white house correspondent's dinner including president bush, obama, reagana, they took their roast like men. new hampshire is next, independent line. cecil, hello. caller: hi, good morning. how are you? you.: well, thank
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go ahead. caller: okay, so i, too, am ollowing with the last two callers. mean, st astounded, i truthfulwolf made some so s and these people are thin-skinned, but yet they just even, they turn blind eye donald trump at attacked our journalists, the everyday, everyday he calls them names, he calls our he calls our and yet nators names despicable things he says and everybody is upset about the act she made a joke about eye shadow. are you freaking kidding me? i am just astounded. mentality of this
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united states united states, we are in is not strong americans i grew up with. cecille, from new hampshire, we appreciate all of you who called in. texas us from houston, is brandon judd, he is the president of the national border and also a border patrol agent himself. sir.morning to you, guest: good morning, how are you doing? host: would you describe the border patrol council and those you represent? guest: certainly. we are the labor organization represents all of the border patrol agents nationwide the the southwest border to northern border and coastal border. what we do, look out for the est interest of the border patrol agents. ost: mr. judd, one of the
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papers this morning, the "washington post," i'll read the headline, current events in the deals with migrant caravan, the headline says as testing rrive, it is the u.s. border, do you see that as a test? guest: i do. looking at is ports of entry are there to allow people that have documents come nto the united states legally and they also facilitate trade and commerce that is coming in that creates billions of dollars of revenue for the american government. when it comes to then this case of the caravan, cited ise things being the fact if they were to come to the united states, they wouldn't hold them, places to is that a long-term problem when across to those coming the border? guest: it is. especially when they cross case, they areis going to points of entry and but you also lum,
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have to understand, asylum laims can only be processed when they have the room or the resources to process those normally asylum are rocessed at the confluence in the country where they come from. if these people are from el uras, guatemala or salvador, had they had gone to the consulate and asked for asylum at that time, they would able to process claims, been able to investigate claims to make sure the claims were proper and could have done it that way. instead, nonprofit organization brought these individuals up to a statement and now that statement isn't working for unfortunately nd it appears those people are becoming pawns of this political rhetoric that is going back and forth. host: now they are there, what is the responsibility of the patrol for these people? guest: it depends. look at the o
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border patrol, we work between the ports of entry, we don't ports of entry. we deal with only those individuals that cross the illegally. the field operations office work of entry and deal with individuals that both have documents. they deal with the commerce that comes across and they also deal that very rarely claim asylum n. this particular people are y claiming asylum at the ports of overwhelming the resources that are available at that port of entry. host: again, brandon judd from texas, joining us, he is the president of the national order patrol council, a border patrol agent. if you want to ask him questions border migration and patrol policy, 202-748-8001 for republicans. 02-748-8000 for democrats and it's 202-748-8002 for independents. ou can also tweet us your
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responses at c-spanwj. r. judd recently desire by the president to see national guard be part of the border patrol system. do you think about their placement and what role will they serve in your mind? would be an effective one for them? guest: the most effective role play, if nal guard can they take over surveillance positions. many of we have too our resources that are dedicated to sitting in control rooms, cameras, monitoring sky boxes, ting in sitting in scope trucks. f we were able to free up the resources and put our agents on the border, we would be more effective. is where we should see the national guard. we will not advocate for the patrol the rd to border, we would be using our military as police force and unconstitutional. host: those in border patrol or give your es,
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202-8003 is how you do that. see seamless -- guest: we are seeing that as we speak. guard intting national the support positions, we haven't put them in the yet, but nce positions hoping to see that so we can free up our resources. now, we're using them to fix our vehicles, which is a our boom for us, when vehicles go down, we don't have the resources to patrol the border. using the national sorry, in our air times and they are doing a great respect, as well. host: mr. judd, what is the manpower of the border patrol what should it be? guest: congress set a floor, not floor of 21,370 gents, that is how many we're
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supposed to have at any given time. right now we have about 19,300. understaffed by about 2000 agents, which is one reason why the national guard. augment our manpower and help us get more agents to the border. joining us n judd for this discussion. first call for you from minnesota, independent line. you're on with our guest, go right ahead. caller: yeah, i was just this border crossing and stuff, you know, i papersey check all their and everything. but i heard something from trump and got me kind of wondering. s he planning on putting fencing the whole way across the northern part of the united also?, host: mr. judd? guest: no, nothing in the works fencing on ype of the northern border. and when you talk about checking migrant s, this
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caravan, they have no documentation to enter the united states legally. what they are doing, coming up and asking for asylum and actual documentation that would allow them to be in the united states. host: while we're on the subject, then your thoughts on wall structure, as the president for.cated is that something you are in alignment with? guest: absolutely. f you look on the southwest border, where we've put fences and physical barriers, we've partsble to control those of the border much better than what we had in the past. a lot of your viewers, if you're watching the news right how easia seeing those fences are to scale and so an actual k about physical barrier that is going wall.rk, talking about a border patrol agents are 100% the d physical barriers on border. host: is that wall most effective when it runs alongside
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border state necessary total over only certain sections? what we're looking for, not talking about a 2000-mile wall from california talking exas, we're about physical barriers in then gic locations, which allows us to dictate where illegal border crossings will place. if we can dictate where border crossings take place, we can be effective in our jobs. florida, newport, ann, next up. caller: good morning, pedro, how you today? host: fine. you're on with our guest. program, ou opened the if you could help me, too, pedro, for him to explain the about a e made partisan -- how the people were they funded to come here, are getting funding from somebody, wasn't clear if it was somebody in guatemala to help them get over here, in the beginning of the
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you said like nonpartisan or nonprofit or something like that. what is the issue having to do, these people you have no papers and and everything and can't track isease or illnesses about them being here and being released into the u.s. once they get into country. host: mr. judd. guest: first thing i said, there nonprofit organization, they are called without borders, ones who sponsor this migrant caravan and been for oring migrant caravans about 10 years. they bring individuals up to when theyclaim asylum get to the border. and so i don't know whether they funding it, i have no idea about that, i know they are it.soring this became such a big deal, which hasn't been a big deal in couple years, the mexican government actually the travel of te
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these individuals up through san o to the border up in ysidro. host: ellie frshgs washington, democrat's line. caller: hello. host: you're on, go ahead. aller: i want to ask about the words from guatemala. i heard the news yesterday about guatemalans used as experiments by the military and their knowledge with venerral disease, this happened sometime ago. we've never done anything to compensate or do anything else for the guatemalans and those diseases have been passed down to some of their family members. seems like with respect to that country, we owe them something. mr. judd. guest: i wouldn't be able to comment on that, i can only talk people crossing the border illegally. what is the role of the border patrol in the processing? guest: depends what they cross
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border for. if somebody crosses illegally, we take them into custody. law. broke the and then once we get them back to our processing facilities fthey claim asylum, we then have to process them or do all of the paperwork that is associated with asylum claims and turn them authority, proper which is ice, and then ice will take it from there. when ice takes it, they will officers er to asylum and look at the claims, whether or not the claims are legitimate. oftentimes that takes way too long, what they will do, end up eleasing them and give them a court date that they're supposed prove up to later on to their claim they should have asylum. unfortunately, however, about people that cross the border illegal that ask for show up for their immigration hear that is about fact.ars after the
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host: so then the term known as catch and release, is that still in effect as policy in the united states? in effect.s still and there is a lot of factors we go into whether or not release individuals. ormally if they cross the border and they're adults and have any children with them, we will hold them until immigration hearings. but the vast majority of individuals that cross illegally with them, we en will ultimately release them. everybody would advocate that we need to treat eople humanely, but we expect people to abide by the laws that re set by congress in this country and when people don't show up to their immigration disappear hey then into the shadows, that is what it, dent obama claimed
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disappearing into the shadow and don't show up to court dates of pressurewful lot on law enforcement, we have to they find them when should have showed up to their court appearances. host: from new jersey, edward, go ine, ahead. caller: yes, thank you. question.e a said that alifornia the no state funding would be to the national guard for border.ervice on the i want to know if that was true also, have there een a study that pass illegal immigrants that come into this far as the cost as immunization, housing, what kind doespact will that have or it have on the federal taxpayers? guest: there is a great many
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studies out there and it depends on what study you're looking at. tanks that do nk studies, they are associated either the right or the left. of course the left-leaning think going to say illegal immigration actually adds to the economy. on the right s will say that illegal taxpayer a costs the great deal of money. which it depends upon think tank is do thanksgiving stud and he who they are associated with. far as california goes and the national guard, we have a of problems in california. states, sanctuary sanctuary cities, any time you protect individuals that break you are inviting them to enter into your state or city seeing pushback from cities right now in california. city councils are saying we're good with these sanctuary
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laws, not good with the you know, ities and, governor jerry brown has held what the as far as national guard can do on the border and that is unfortunate for us because we're talking securing the border between the ports of entry and not talking about legal talking aboute're illegal immigration. ost: mr. judd, the president traveled to california recently to do inspections of those walls.ypes of the from what you have seen of that, are those the type of structures would like to see, solid-based structure? prototypes weouple like best. we want to see what is coming up to the wall. prototype the at at rd lard type fencing ottom and solid at the top, with a grappling on top. there are a couple prototypes we are fantastic.ey
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host: bill in buffalo, new york, line, go ahead. caller: good morning. annoying.s stuff so during reagan's time, he took communists out of nicaragua. george bush junior said any can from south america freely, we'd have to take them in. ou talk all about how an illegal has to respect the laws f this country, but the citizens are not respecting the -- of the thanks, caller. guest: so there are employers anctioned laws that say we can fine employers that hire people that are here in the country illegally. unfortunately this is a political issue and i will be he first to admit that the
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national border patrol council ajepgents strongly endorse president trump, the got a glimpse, when we say we're going to actually country,he laws of this we saw drop in illegal immigration to 45-year lows and was strictly based upon rhetoric, strictly based upon we the laws of enforce this country. unfrpately, congress didn't they didn't pass the laws that were necessary to releaseen the catch and program, the loopholes that xist and loopholes are being exploited. and one loophole that is being exploit side employer sanctions, not following through on the laws. illinois, harris in democrat's line, go ahead, you're on. on immigration, under pproximate president obama,
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immigration was lower and he a lot of immigrants, you need to give credit to president obama. on immigration. taxes, we are a country of immigrants and let them into country. just like the europeans stole this country from the american so, you know, this country, we need to be welcoming immigrants that could be our next doctor, our next scientist trying group of people to come over. host: mr. judd? guest: i can't comment to what years ago. what i can comment on right now s what is happening at the border right now. we have laws in this country. of this our citizens country to follow our laws. we also expect those individuals our country ng to
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to follow our laws. if they don't choose to follow have to take them into custody and we have to give them consequence for breaking law.particular if they want to follow the laws, company.welcoming we don't just keep out those individuals from mexico, from central rica, from america. i have personally arrested eople that cross the border illegally from poland, from russia, from china. all over the from world that cross the border illegally, not just people from mexico, from central america and south america. next. ann, you are you are on, go ahead. caller: yes. immigrants and welcome them, really do, my concern is numbers and huge numbers and how going to change this country, jobs and cheap labor. know, ition is this, you
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heard figures that hispanics ere going to become the majority. is that correct? keep, can they orce them not to come into the country now because first country they came into was honduras and get asylum there? you so much. guest: so the laws do allow us you have legal status in a country that you are coming the rough and try to enter united states, we can send you back to that country that you status.t legal if mexico is granting legal status to individuals, yes, we when they present themselves at ports of entry, say you, you do not have the the country, you do not have the proper documentation to enter the united states. documentation to stay in mexico. we're going to deny you entry. port of entry. there is not a lot we can do we don't have physical
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force people not to cross illegally. sand, have a line in the they can put their foot across that line, at that point, i have custody.hem into they just broke the law, they are in the united states and i can't push them back into mexico. there are laws that i also have .o abide by law enforce sxment police officers, we're subject to laws, as well, and we have to follow the laws. cooperative are other country necessary taking people back? what country rooe we're talking about. we've had problems with eastern countries, problems with middle eastern countries, so it depends on what country we're talking about. people that cross the border mexico, mexico has always taken back the individuals that we ave in custody when
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deport them back to mexico. host: the viewer off twitter if there is was a way to contract the caravan situation united policy that the states had of wet foot dry foot migrants?uban guest: i'm sorry, i don't understand that, the drive for migrants -- host: hold on. foot policy for cuban migrant necessary 1995, is that could be ns make with what is going on in from tijuana. guest: so the difference between ubans and people from other countries, we weren't able to end peep frel cuba back to cuba, so if you touched foot on puerto tates soil or rico, you were free. you were good to go. little bit are a different. those coming over here to claim asylum, we can send them back to
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honduras, but they do have a right to see a judge and go asylum process. but if we determine that you do want asylum, we can send you we couldn't ras, end anybody from cuba back to cuba. host: is the president or -- underperform nothing some area? i don't think so, i think congress is underperforming. not just republicans or democrats and the few independents that we have in congress. is ink that congress absolutely not acting properly you look at those that say the immigration system is need to fix it, we haven't fixed it. those that say we need tougher we haven't done that. i think congress isn't doing their job. brandon judd, the president of the national border atrol council, also border
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patrol agent, talking about immigration policy. mr. judd, thank you for your time. thank you. host: it is stop number 30 in of "50 capitals tour" across the united states. the mile-high to city of denver, colorado. buildingof the capital you are see suggest plated with 24-karat gold onboard the bus. and that is governor hickenlooper, good morning. governor, good morning. how would you describe the most pressing issue in your state currently? governor hickenlooper: right fixing ing to balance our pension and then making sure that we're able to at the same for get resources transportation and resources, as teachers more. those three things are having to in simultaneously
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in balance. host: so what kind of shortfalls talking and what is the proposal that will help you balance?hat governor hickenlooper: well, big now looking at the flood of money that has come state.he the state right now having some 25ongest economy probably in years with number one economy in the country right now. we're enough resources, going to put 3% of total payroll million a year toward the pension and look at adjusting cost of living down a little bit and then also looking at how we can hires, let -- e they work two years or four longer. everybody is getting $600 million into the education
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over the next couple years, we're making progress well., as i think we are trying to do all this at a time when the economy support tate can role it. host: house speaker is a senate is republican, are they on board with strategy of yours? i think both sides are willing to compromise and ealize they are not going to get everything they want. that is the nature of government. out, get y to figure enough money to address some of transportation aging roads and i think we are going to make as well.nt progress, something in it for everybody. john johned /*, f you want to ask about topics
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you want him to address, two ines, for those colorado residents, 202-748-8000. if you want to ask your governor others, a question, all 202-748-8001. governor, you hinted at this new , talk about enue states that allow recreational $1 juana legally brought in thelty -- $1.6 billion for state. is that some ever the money you are talking about? governor hickenlooper: no, drop in the s a bucket, amount of tax revenue last year was dollar $210 million. we have a $30 billion budget. t does allow us to regulate that industry. marketing, ward public relations efforts to drive home the fact that brains are heir going rapidly should not be marijuana hc and
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under any circumstances and we rusted adults right there, coaches, clergy, you know, we wouldn't have resources to do that if we didn't have some tax money coming in. think i think the money helps unintended the consequences. host: the resources you had to is this then t, specifically a problem where to agers are getting access the drugs? guest: we do a study every year 20,000 respondents in teenagers and f the results have been pretty consistent. increase, when we have legalized it, now we seen, it came back down and been pretty much flat last several best we can tell, there hasn't been a big spike or increase in teenage
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use. host: let's go to calls for our governor hickenlooper from colorado, first from north jamaal, from s is charlotte, you are on with our guest, go ahead. governor.i, i used to live in the state of colorado for a while, so many years. one thing that a lot of my back to me relating is the housing situation in pretty bad. for african americans, for those section 8, renting of partments and houses, rent is the lower-end citizens, they can get proper housing. speak to that to a little bit.
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governor hickenlooper: that is the definition, housing in colorado, you have entrepreneurs starting in new es, bringing workers from other states, they tart sucking up that traditionally affordable housing. so right now we have a bunch of focusingns, but really on it from a state partnership ith local municipalitys to say how do we dramatically increase he amount of new affordable housing we're creating and those lans are underway, but i think there is still a couple years where we'll have to keep playing catch up. host: resident from colorado, cindy is next. on.head, you're caller: hi, governor. 'm calling about the marijuana issue. and when it was passed in our state, we were told that it take care of our needs for
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and schools and come abouthat hasn't and our homeless population is exploding. studys that show damage to children, unbetter is very es, marijuana destructive, very addictive and wondering, you know, when are the politicians going of marijuana in our state? host: thanks, cindy. governor, go ahead. i'mrnor hickenlooper: well, sure you know this. was one of the people that i really was against it. i wrote checks to campaign against it. didn't think legalizing recreational marijuana was a good idea. passed 55-45, it wasn't politicians that promised anything, these were organizations, citizens that came up and they felt, you know, kids eds of thousands of
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had been sent to prison, made felons for nonviolent crimes and thought there had to be a better way. it passed 55-45. people votewhen the that strongly to support something, i have -- i took oath protect and deliver what is guaranteed in our state constitution and that initiative the state constitution. i will tell you, we haven't seen big jump in youth consumption or addiction. we certainly have had problems, is a black market that persistent. we're aware people are pretending to be growing legally here and trying to package it and ship it millionsate and we put of dollars into public safety and into police and state police efforts to intercept that. thisnk the challenge here, is what, it is not the politicians supporting this, it is the people.
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and we have a -- you know, this is a democracy, when majority votes for something, we have to deliver it. droich, vernor, peter connected with centennial institute, highlight necessary analysis by denver post that showed the state had 145% of fatal n number crashes involving marijuana 2013-2016.ivers, goes on from there, is there a connection between decisions by state and these crashes e're seeing or reported seeing reported on? governor hickenlooper: we're trying to get good dat a. the you see that dramatic increase, before in fatalities deceased measured driver to see if he had marijuana. alcohol, but not marijuana. it was legalized, we started everybody in a fatality whereas before, it was random, you know. depending on the
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circumstances, we would do that measurement, especially if it the driver had made a serious error while driving and yet they didn't have alcohol system. so i think that we didn't have a good baseline for data. the problem, f other states legalize marijuana after us, one thing i said consistently, get a good baseline. make sure you are measuring wasfic accidents and seeing marijuana involved so that you can see whether there is real it is host: we haven't seen -- guest: we haven't seen a big in consumption by any demographic, except senior that is either arthritis pain and ache of getting older and not wanting to use opioid or baby boomer coming back to their college years. one concern of states like yours with incoming trump dministration, pursue states particularly because marijuana is still classified as illegal drug, is that still a concern of
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yours today? governor hickenlooper: yeah, i think it is a concern. talked to attorney general sessions a couple times, he's very blunt. more americans doing more drugs of any kind makes the stronger. ker, not and he doesn't want to hear about well, what about the old same hey were doing the amount of job, it was all illegal, sending hundreds of prison for kids to nonviolent crimes, he's more focused on we don't want to send message to anybody that doing drugs is a good idea. that being said, he's been clear priority is heroin and meth, human trafficking and he doesn't have resources to do everything. marijuana is going to continue priority.atively low he doesn't rule out that on occasion, where he thinks a of the operating one states where marijuana is legal, he doesn't rule out he might on one n pretty hard company or the other. i don't think he will do a massive shut down. trumpwhat about president
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himself, do you get the sense this is a concern of his? uest: certainly on the campaign, president trump was rights,gned with states states of legalized marijuana let he seemed inclined to them go their own way. think it's more likely we've seen attorney general sessions, is will, more in play than president trump's. i think so far, president trump out of the stayed fray. host: for those colorado esidents, 202-748-8000, if you want to ask questions of your governor. 202-748-8001 for all others. gunnison, , he's in colorado. you're on. good morning. morning, governor. in - i'm a rancher here gunnison and i've asked three of the epublican candidates exact same question. where do you -- what are you us that are in
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rural areas, we're producers, ag is the number one business in colorado. the second business, largest, you could call business in colorado, is the government. problem and a disconnect between the front rural. the urban and the we just keep getting squeezed and hurt and damaged to the it is very hard for us to stay in business. hat in the world are you ever going to do that helps us, that and the rest of the state done something for us? sure.nor hickenlooper: greatow, it is one of the divides in the country, this urbanon between rural and and one thing we passed and 140 between 110 million just a few weeks ago, general at through the
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assembly to provide, you know, within the next three or four internet h-speed access, broadband to every single town and community in the entire state of colorado. you can imagine, that is very expensive for the smaller towns nd more remote parts of the state. we felt the whole state had to be together. we have a program called jump start, anybody trying to start a small business in rural part of he state, if they need certain criteria, they will be in terms f tax paid to the state, totally tax free. even their employees won't pay taxes to the state. i think that created about 340 so far.350 jobs obviously that is just a start. ne of the big challenges and we've worked hard to try to find etter export markets for our agricultural produce and i agree 100%, it is the backbone of our entire economy is our agricultural production. but right now, we're having with the trade
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agreements with mexico and parts of china and asia, major markets for our agricultural r products. i think that if we can get those settled out ments pretty quickly, that will have a big step for us. lastly, we're continuing to try protect, re that we the colorado water plant, try to have and e water we make sure it stays on the land wherever possible. we're not trying to tell a or rancher they can't sell their water, but trying to incentive if they keep that water where it has een traditionally used in most caseos agriculture. host: governor, recent story aying legislature demands immigrant driver bill. his being driven by labor and farmers there in the state. can you tell us why? i ernor hickenlooper:
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couldn't hear you, you broke up there. host: story in "washington post" bill immigrant driver being considered by the legislature and part of it eeing support from labor and farmers and the like, tell us why. guest: well, if you look at of the big challenges in agriculture is making sure can find work force that is willing to do the hard work, not great pay. people can get from one place to the other and be the jobs that o need to be done, has been a real many parts of the state, not every part of the of the ut many parts state. this takes concerted effort to make sure we're getting every we can to person work on during planning season and during harvest when there is a lot of work that needs to be done. host: has that been passed and into law?
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governor hickenlooper: there is a version that is in law. trying to expand and support it. david in grandto junction, colorado. hi. caller: hello. how you doing? question is this. i was a cop many years ago and the devastation that marijuana brought on the people it. used and i was totally against and then i've seen the medical marijuana, which has the people goofy s taken out and seen the good that marijuana has brought. hy did they legalize recreational marijuana? it has killed so many people and we don't need recreational marijuana, we just need medical marijuana and it needs to be put in a prescription. about that?say governor hickenlooper: well, again, that is exactly what i
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supported. i looked at it from that point of view that medical marijuana clearly serving a purpose. you know, right now marijuana is by the federal government as schedule 1 can't even do testing on it, right? heroin, cocaine, those are schedule 2 narcotics, which save designate they have some beneficial properties and should be tested. have c.d.c., the voids widespread medical application, those still aren't really have , but clearly benefit, so again, i supported our position in terms of, you know, we should not legalize recreational marijuana, but colorado push today through 55-45, and most polls show it is now supported by of the population. so some polls show it high as 63
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or 64%. is one of those things, there are so many people that feel so that marijuana should not be legal on a recreational this, i think we will have tension for a while. our job, i think, is to continue accurately as we can, are we having more driving impaired situations? are we having more problems in chools with kids getting high and doing poorly? will the drop-out rate go up? that is what people like you are suggesting, we'll see some of these real tragedys to our we don't change something. so far, though, the data that we large-scale the data, there is a small, couple mall samples that show like 6% increase or 1 out of 14% studies we ut large o every year, 20,000 respondents have shown consistent lie flat level of
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especially among kids. while we, you know, no matter whether we support it or didn't legalization of marijuana, i think at this hasn't e could say it been, hasn't run away from us. we ther words, it hasn't, haven't seen spike in consumption. host: how much influence is your states ving on other considering legalizing recreational marijuana and are consulting someone within your office directly consulting them? yeah, so ickenlooper: i have talked directly to couple i don't know, dozen governors who either citizens passed it or they were it and i have been consistent. if your voters passed it, have implement it, i explain what our mistakes were, things e would have done differently, i think we would have made less mistakes in the beginning and we person who's f helped consult other states and i've again, gone out when
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passed it, went out and met with members of the general assembly, met with brown.r when i get asked for advice from what i vernors now, consistently say, if it was up to me, i would wait a couple years. we don't have good data and i rather wait a couple years, make don't have unintended consequences f. your voters got to it, i think you do your best of the to make sure it gets legalized properly. indiana e. eb nee, hello. go ahead. caller: for the governor, i want ask you about the methodology you are using for measuring impaired drivers. we all know for k/* cannibas stays in your system, informationng right to your voters and users when ou say marijuana is direct
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influence of that incident when it could have been alcohol or unfortunate situation, ow are you getting that situation rectified? thank you. governor hickenlooper: that is questions.great marijuana can actually stay in your system up to four weeks and blood a to actually go and take the measurements so you know what you oncentration was, so know whether there was that, we nanograms of five which we set as legal limit to much thc in your blood and not be considered impaired. nd most of the measurements people see the data from are just measuring whether there was in someone's blood after a fatality or serious traffic accident. that additional test to measure the an entration of thc in accurate way, that is about 300, as opposed to
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$80 or $100 test to see if there are traces of it. trying and a lot of measurements and tests are done examiners and l police officers, you know, responders are first to highway accidents, not always state patrol. difficult for us to get consistency in these types of trying to s, we're work, without data, how will we doing ow how well we're or how badly we're doing in terms of this, really one of the experiments of the first half of this century. guest, serves as governor of colorado, mayor of geologist to become -- in history of the brewer since st sam adams since 1792, what is have mportant lesson you learned from brewing beer? governor hickenlooper: well,
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a process of , is fermentation and, you know, from i learned, you learn a lot of things. it is interesting, having gone the craft beer revolution and being firsthand the ose and personal with marijuana revolution, i mean, they are completely different, there are parallels. one thing about beer and is people, you know, they don't always know and one big its challenge if you are in the if you nt business or brew pub and brew your own beer, let people know what they are imbibing and taking in, how much alcohol. beers have half again or even double the amount of alcohol more traditional beer. with the marijuana that we're seeing, it took a hile, like a couple years to begin to accurately be able to communicate to consumers here is
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thc is in this particular edible or this product or that product and you know, this is what a normal dose would be considered. think that is the thc is in this particular edible or this product or that product. this is what a normal dose would be considered. i think that is one lesson. there are all kinds of lessons you pick up on when you are serving people things that generally make them happier and relax. we do not allow people to serve consumers in bars and restaurants. mixing the two together is a nightmare. i think we're going to push very hard for a long time to make sure we do not have bars and restaurants where that kind of proximity would increase the
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likelihood that that would happen. the democratic governor of colorado joining us on stop number 30 of c-span's 50 capitals tour. thank you so much. : it was my pleasure, thanks for having me. stay tuned for our next stop in cheyenne, wyoming. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2018] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit] >> president trump will be welcoming his nigerian counterpart to the white house today. is expected to arrive later
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