tv Bush Center - Pres. Bush and Bono Conversation CSPAN May 25, 2018 8:00pm-9:07pm EDT
>> him next a conversation with former president george w. bush and bono. and jeff bezos in the future of his company. president of the senate majority packed. bono is an activist and front man of the rock band, u2. recent a medal for his humanitarian contributions and after the ceremony just a former president and former white house chief of staff for a conversation. this is just over one hour.
more importantly it had to have a wave to make sure american taxpayer dollars were not going to be wasted. that became the millennium whichnge corporation, were large grants to countries that were governing democratically and investing in their people. john bolton was a part of that effort. we were going to make an announcement in washington before we left for monterrey and he said i have an idea, he said have you heard of bono? heard yes, josh, i have of bono, i'd like you to and rocking music. said bono is interested, so
he asked if you would come and stand beside the president in washington. i was assigned to talk to bono and convince him to come with us. i never forget him walking into the office and looking at me suspiciously and saying, what you really need to do is something about aids. it was a time when the continent of africa faced a really bleak future as millions of people were succumbing to a disease for which there was no cure, and there was very little hope for a cure. i sit in that meeting with our board to do something about aids because president rush, when he was governor bush, told me the heart of america has to show through our foreign policy.
we had to have a foreign policy that brought compassion to its center. have been looking at what we might do about aids but it is not quite right yet because no aidss certain whether really works, there was no cure, and so the president wanted to understand the issue better before he did something on aids. to get what we are doing on foreign assistance, it is going to quadruple for assistance to africa. is going to double foreign america,e into latin and i said he will have to trust me, we are going to do something on aids. fast-forward to the state of union address of january of 2003. president bush would keep that promise. with the largest american andstment in global health, the largest investment by any
single country and global health. with the president's emergency plan for aids relief. [applause] condoleezza rice: and between those two events, there was another event. backstageent met bono when you make the announcement about the millennium challenge. he said to bono offhandedly, why would to come see me? we decided that was a good idea. i had to admit i was a little bit nervous, this would be an odd couple. [laughter] condoleezza rice: the tough talking texan and former governor of texas and the irish rocker. as national security adviser it is your responsibility to recommend these meetings and
staff them and make sure you are well prepared. how do you prepare for that meeting? we just let the two of them go at it, one on one with nobody else in the room. they talked, i would learn later, about aids, responsibility and obligation of those whom much has been given. they talked about the fact a great country like the united states could not allow the scourge of aids to continue to wipe out entire populations. couple wouldought become a very powerful to some to make sure that america was in lead to bring did t other countries, nonprofits,
congress, parliaments around the world, that we can do something about the scourge of aids. bono was the perfect partner for us. and incrediblek dedication and commitment to this cause, he has been a real force for making certain that begun 15hat what had years ago is not just going, but moving forward, and when we go to places we did to south see thereberia, you are orphans of aids parents, but there are more and more kids these days whose parents are living longer to see them at least grow older, and that has made a difference. but we areve a cure, able to extend life, and we have
allowed so many people to see their children roll up and have have theirand parents for a bit longer. [applause] condoleezza rice: bono, it was a great day for this cause. more importantly, it was a great day for me when you walked into my office and walked into the oval. you two have been quite the pair, and it is my great pleasure to invite one half of that pair of the texas president and the irish rocker. president george w. bush. [applause] president bush: thank you all. thank you.
so i thought i was supposed to introduce bono. \[laughter] i'm not going to try now. people ask me do i miss washington. no. but i miss serving with some awesome people. vice president chaney's here. you're about to meet one of the really fine people in josh bolton and of course, condoleeza rice, who not only was a famous advisor but was a dear, dear friend. and so i'm -- anyway, i'm going to give bono this award. i must confess -- \[laughter] wearing a tux -- yeah, yeah, i got it. yeah. wearing a tux really not my first choice and hanging out with rockers is not my first choice. [laughter]
president bush: but condi's right. i can't tell you enough about bono. i was a little skeptical about him, i must confess when he was coming to the white house and i confess he might have been slightly skeptical about me. \[laughter] but we formed this fast friendship. here's what i learned about the guy. he's the real deal. if you want to talk about poverty issues, you better know your stuff because bono is one of the most well-informed people i met in washington, d.c. i don't know if the facts were true that he was spewing out. but -- \[laughter] but he was convincing. so i want to tell you a story about this. and bono gets a huge amount of credit. so laura and i went to rwanda to see a catholic charity
organization, where they train young girls so when they mature so they can thwart of predatory men. and one of things that made this successful is that we included this organization but faith-based organizations on the theory that if you're motivated to love a neighbor is the kind of people you want loving a neighbor. there were a group of orphans getting ready to watch this catholic charities program. and i don't know why, but i said "god is good." and without hesitating they went "all the time." it was a stunning moment. rich white guy saying to african orphans god is good. and you know, teenage kids would likely be telling me, you think there's a god? easy for you to say.
we live in poverty. i said god is good. all the time. when i got back i had a white house staff meeting. and i told them the story. and my punchline was any time anybody who lives in this blessed country hear somebody say god is good, we ought to scream at the top of our lungs "all the time" which is the point that bono and i try to make. he from a rock stage and me, you know, from the bush center, not exactly the same platform. [laughter] and that is those of us who have an obligation, a duty, a moral duty to help those who are suffering from diseases where we can help.
and so i'm giving the distinguished citizen award tonight. it's the first one we've ever given. i mentioned this to bono at our ranch and he said he would come. which i can't tell you how much it means for laura and me but for everybody else here. and so -- bono this may not -- he doesn't take awards and i kind of can see why. \[laughter] no, this is valuable. \[laughter] \[applause] do you like pewter? \[laughter] platinum, yeah. anyway, bono, come up here and let me give you this award. \[applause] [applause]
[laughter] -- joshua bolton. \[applause] josh bolten: that was good. i'm in charge here. president bush: not for long. this is just a prop. joshua: i figure i got about 60 seconds. how cool is this? how cool is this? i've had a lot of privileges and a long career in government service, working for you, mr. president. but the opportunity to share the stage with my two biggest heroes in public life is -- is a real highlight. president bush: thank you, buddy.
bono: i feel the same. joshua: my two heroes, one is a world renowned artist. and the other one is a big rock star. [laughter] i got some questions but, mr. president, before i do, i want to start on just a serious note of appreciation to you and mrs. bush for the spirit in which you carried this program over the last couple of days which has been terrific. i know it's been a tough week for everybody. i watched you as president many times actually probably hundreds of times play the role of comforter-in-chief. and these last few days you've just done that for everybody here. you've given everybody a chance to celebrate the bush institute but to celebrate your mom whose spirit is embedded in everything you do. president bush: thank you.
\[applause] let me ask you something. you knew mother. do you think she would get along with bono? [laughter] joshua: yep, better than you, actually. [laughter] ok. now i'm going to do my questions. and mr. president, i'm going to be talking to bono for a bit here. if you feel you need to interject something -- \[laughter] president bush: i just had a dessert. bono: all sugared up. joshua: bono, the president mentioned from the podium that you rarely accept awards. in fact, i've known you for a long time. and i've never seen you accept an award. you like to give them. i've seen you do that. but you don't like to get them. why did you decide to accept this one?
bono: pewter. platinum. \[laughter] yeah, it's a -- you know, the -- the thing that i'm most proud of in my -- in the life i've set for my family and friends -- outside of the music that i make with u2 is the people that i've worked with trying to serve the world's poor. and with that debt cancellation. debt.e $90 billion of
and bill clinton canceled the bilateral. and 43 million children went to school, that was a big deal and it but the thing that was thought impossible was the idea of getting anti-retro viral medications to the rural poor especially in africa. and this president followed that great adage of nelson mandela come up always said it is always impossible until it is done. and i would count outside of my musical life with u2, pep fund and the global fund and the fight against h.i.v./aids is the thing i'm most proud of in my life, and that would not have been possible without this man, the support of laura and the family, without the support of
you, condoleeza rice, mike girson's not here and since you started this, i have to say the american taxpayers who paid for it. and if you're an american taxpayer, you're an aids activists. i don't know if you know that here in texas. but that's a big deal. \[applause] so i'm here to say thanks. joshua: mr. president, condi called you guys the odd couple. president bush: it's a good point. he's a lot hotter than i am but anyway. bono: i was just thinking the opposite. \[laughter] joshua: give us a little bit of color about how, where, and why the bromance began.
president bush: you're the reason why. you and condi said you need to meet bono. i'm like who? \[laughter] he mentioned this earlier, but this is a true story. so josh was reflecting the -- the attitude of most of the people in the white house staff staff that was scared to death that i was going to offend bono because i'm basically a cultural cretin. [laughter] they're hovering around. this guy's going to come around, very dynamic guy. you're going to say that. he's going to say this. josh, on the way to the oval office turns around and says "you do know bono, don't you?" i said, of course, he's married to cher. \[laughter] \[applause]
and this guy comes storming in, in the oval. and he's hitting me with all kind of stats. he's got one high energy dude and you've got to be to be putting on a show every night. but something about him. you know, i was skeptical as hell. i really was because you know, a little worried about some pr guy trotting out to make himself look good to his fans. but this guy meant it. it is the beginning of a very unique and a very treasured friendship. and so that's where the bromance started. \[applause] i think you gave the prayer at the national prayer breakfast one year when i was president. bono: i did. but i'd also like to say that i have some of the most important parts of my life have been spent with cher. \[laughter]
and -- and -- she has an incredible version of, "i still haven't found what i'm looking for." she opened our tour, so take that. \[laughter] i did actually travel and lived with sonny. and i don't approve of the ,ronunciation of my name bone-no. we did the humming thing. the gentlemen got out. and just as the doors closed, he said it's bone-o by the way. and i said, who is that? and he went, that's sonny bono. vegas.s in las we have this in common. joshua: bono, i was going to ask
you about your reflection how the bromance began. but let me ask you about a specific aspect. from the political spectrum that you came from, it must have been seen as dangerous talking to the president. talk a little bit about that. bono: i don't think it was good for either of our bases. let's put it that way. \[laughter] this was parody of pain. no, it's like -- it was tricky. but tricky for you. and i remember, you know, the beginning of our relationship -- i do remember -- i was on, you know, disarmed by the president's sense of humor. we were traveling in a motorcade together. and to announce the millennium
challenge corporation with cardinal mccarrick. and the three of us. and people were waving. and i said, you're really popular around here, mr. president. he said when i first came here, people used to wave at me with one finger. \[laughter] and i'd like to tell you, your president said that in front of a catholic cardinal. [laughter] and the cardinal laughed the hardest. i think if you believe -- you don't have to agree on everything. just one thing. if that thing is important enough if you want to get shit done. and as it happens, we agree on lots of things. and as an irish person sometime i find it difficult the way some
people are very verbal about their faith. irish people it was quite a private thing. and you learn to stand in a -- understand in a country that was torn by religion why we just keep that to ourselves. but i do remember speaking about this disease in those terms. we talked about it as leprosy because it was the untouchables. it was so powerful when your barbara, hugged that child. an aids sufferer because stigma -- it was a problem in the
united states, stigma was a killer. and so you were born of an aids activist, sir. and you became one. but we spoke about how our faith demands that we change the way we feel about this disease. and we found all kinds of people unexpected advocates. and i was deeply challenged because i come from a liberal, left family, and -- and at the one campaign, we were just determined to make sure that we just went right down the center of the aisle on this because we didn't want to divide in half the potential supporters of these ideas because it's a cliche to think this is just of the left or it's a cliche to think it's just the religious people. i think it's a very american idea, and you know, america is an idea. it's not just a country.
ireland is a great country. great britain is a great country. but it's not an idea. america is a idea. and part of that idea is to respond to an emergency like the h.i.v./aids. president bush: and by the way, my base didn't give a damn if bono was my friend. [laughter] they kind of liked me better. joshua: mr. president, i want to dial -- \[laughter] i'm doing my best. \[laughter] bear with me. i want to dial back a couple of years. i was with you during the 2000 presidential campaign. and i never once heard you get up on the stump and say, vote for me because i want to double the number of your tax dollars that are going to get sent to
africa. now, what changed? president bush: i should have done that. the election wouldn't have been quite as close. [laughter] what changed was i campaigned as a pro-life candidate and in our circles -- i mean, in politics, most people kind of think abortion. i'm thinking we're all god's children and every life is precious, every life. [applause] and so condi -- condi came to see me. and said there's a pandemic destroying an entire generation on account of africa. in my line of work, people tend to speak in hyperbole. i looked at her and i said, prove it. and she did. and she instructed me about the facts. and so i'm thinking i'm the president of the greatest nation and the richest nation ever and
i told people i was -- all life mattered and yet she just inform me that an entire generation was being destroyed. secondly, i was worried about the security of the country after 9/11. we spent a lot of time like that. and we have to think why is it that people would come and kill our citizens? it's one thing to respond and we did forcefully. but the other thing is to think about the long-term causes and i was telling this to bono earlier that the age issue is not only a moral issue for a great nation. it's a national security issue. so think about those orphans that were there. what happens if nobody showed up to help? the big rich nations say it's
not our problem. let them figure it out. and then all of a sudden, a group of people show up and said we're your new family. we care for you. that's before they instruct them on how to put a suicide vest on. and so it's in our national security interest. see the lesson of 9/11 how others live matters to our national security. and therefore, the aids initiative -- that's how i came to it. bono, we're not big fans of the united nations around here -- >> i am. president bush: it goes to show how kind of ignorant you are at issues. [laughter] and so the reason why if your responsible for achieving results, the idea of doing something significant to the u.n. where there's no accountability whatsoever to me would have been a waste of our taxpayers' money.
nevertheless, at this point in my presidency, i wanted to be liked. i succeeded at i didn't want to be liked. so condi brings in collin powell and tommy johnson. and he said we must do this for the u.n. global fund. but i was reluctant we set up the global fund. our deal in america is we would match donors. pandemic destroying an entire generation and i called condi, i said how's the global fund doing? finland? that's all. it was empty. nothing was happening. i said to hell with it. we set up -- josh led the effort. the 17 most affected nations. and put in a strategy in place and got after it. and then guess what happened? after success was proven people
started contributing to the global fund. go ahead and defend your position. \[laughter] bono: this is interesting. it is true that our first -- our first interventions with dr. rice and with josh bolton and with you were to fund and fund only the global fund, which was set up in the united nations, and it was a multi-lateral device just to deal with this pandemic which was the greatest health emergency in 600 years. and if i might because it's important, 15 years since, but to try and describe what that looks like, imagine this room, you're in an africa city, sophisticated university, you could be anywhere.
a third of the people are going to die. you are in the football stadium, a third of the people are going to die. you are a trucker, 50% of truckers are going to die. when one campaign did a tour here, a speaking tour, some truckstop, big, big trucker. tattoos all over his head, that kind of trucker. president bush: he's a rocker. heavier than rock. bono: i brushed by him. he grabbed my hand. he says, did you just say 50%? half of all the truck drivers in all of africa are going to die. i said yeah. he said, can i help you? i'll give you my name. he said if you need anything. that is america right there. [applause] we didn't know if we could count on america.
so the united nations had bravely set up this multi-lateral mechanism. but it was slow to start. i accept that. they didn't want it to be -- they didn't want to make any mistakes. let me put it this way. at this date as we're speaking, the president's initiative -- i i am telling you this, it has saved 13 million lives. [applause] pepfar has been a spectacular success. but you will admit that you can add 21 billion now. you worked well together in the end. one reason why we put our buddy mark dybal in
there. bono: i would add him in there. he's a great leader. and this is a red iphone. and any time you buy one of these beautiful objects, money goes to the global fund. apple are in for i think it's probably about 200 million -- what would you say? what's the number? close to $200 million. so red has raised half a billion dollars because the point of the global fund was to bring in the private sector. it wasn't just government money. and that's an invitation to all you very fabulous -- president bush: bono, we're raising money for the bush center. what the hell? [laughter] i got you here for this distinguished award and there you are poaching on our donors. \[laughter]
bono: we had an argument once. i was getting really frustrated that the president made this is most extraordinary speech, the state of the union, 2003. he said this is -- this is what america's going to do. we're going to show the world what we can do. and we're going to get these drugs, the people say are impossible to the rural poor. we're going to get them there in motorcycles and bicycles. we are going to do this. and it took a while. so i got frustrated. and i was in talking with the president. and i can talk. and -- and somebody goes -- hold on a second. i heard you. would you just stop talking? [laughter] because i am the president. in the oval office doing this. please, sir. [laughter] joshua: i'm going to stick with bono for a minute.
president bush: damn, i thought you -- joshua: bono, you just pulled out your red phone. i want you to say a little more to this audience about what is red and what is the one campaign that you co-founded at about the same time? and what's the bork that they're the work you are doing now? bono: start with the one campaign because gayle smith is here. and it is such a huge honor to work with her and she's a force of nature. indeed, she ran developments for barack obama. i called her gayle force one. but she's not held hostage to any ideology. like any smart people, she wants what works to work. i have to say this for president obama, you have to say this. when this president bush launched the largest health intervention in the history of
medicine, a moon shot for america to take on this disease and put billions of american taxpayer dollars in that fight successfully so. it would have been very says for -- it would have been very easy for president obama to arrive and say i want to do something different. but he followed your lead and similarly spent very well billions of dollars. and that is why we're where we are today. and the one campaign to answer your question, josh is we want to be wind of the back of politicians who have the moral courage to do something that can be unpopular in the short-term. and we also want to be able to be a nuisance if people don't. and i don't want to name names but there have been people who really regretted invited the one campaigner into their office
because they don't leave and they're very informed. and they'll wait for you outside your church or your office. they're relentless, the one campaigners. that's what we do. we're haunting chancellor merkel. we're haunting the president of france. you know, president macron at the moment has met with us. president sarkozy said i know what you do. you would have to torture me. [laughter] it.i get that's what the one campaign does. red is like the gateway drug to the one campaign. if you don't want to be a marching boots activist but you're in commerce, what do i have to do? buy a redroduct -- product.
red starbucks or red apple. bank of america, a huge supporter. their signage on world's aids day is a political tool for us. because it's not just the money we raise, it's the heat. because we understand it's difficult for policy-mackers to theseicymakers to make expensive decisions. and so we wanted them to know that we're there, that we're behind them and there's support for this in the shopping malls or in their constituencies. that's what red does. president bush: you know, it's interesting. so the question that red asks and what i fear is that most americans have no clue of what has been discussed today. if you ask an average guy, do you think your taxpayer's dollars is responsible for saving 13 million people in africa, they have no idea what they're talking about. part of your effort is a good idea is to remind the american people of their goodness. bono: i cannot -- and please, if you could remember this if you
think about this, this disease, h.i.v./aids, it could be something else. we picked a fight with that disease because these pills, it took three at the time, three a day to keep you alive, they symbolized the injustice of where you live, should not decide whether you live. and americans respond to that. it's who you are. and i'm absolutely sure that if you knew what you had achieved because as well as these 13 million lives, as i say it's 21 million lives, this is -- this is something that should be described like omaha beach. this is like intervention in the second world war. this is a huge and heroic thing
that you have taken on. how many people died in the second world war? was it nearly 50 million? something like that. president bush: i wasn't born. bono: right. 35 million people -- >> 47. president bush: do i hear 50? \[laughter] bono: so this is -- this is human drama on that scale. 35 million people lost their lives. and when you wake up tomorrow morning, i would love for americans for you to remind yourselves of what you've achieved in saving 21 million lives from the scourge of h.i.v. and then think how did we do that? it was cross-party support. we had bill frisk their
physician from nashville and john kerry working together the kerry-frisk bill with condoleeza rice who let us in. we didn't even have an office. we were in her office. my guy, andnd, backpacks of information and data. she was going show me this. let me check this. and she's completely undersold her position here. wouldn't you agree? president bush: i agree completely. bono: condoleeza rice her fingerprints are all over this. she took it very seriously as did this man here. but it's the american people, the american taxpayer that really deserves the applause and i know that's how you feel. and that's why i came to say thank you. president bush: bono, thank you for saying that. but here's the thing, one of the things that i need to remind people of is that not only did we get anti-viral medicine but we helped establish a health
care system that can help deal with other diseases. in other words, by dealing with aids, we left behind an infrastructure or there exists an infrastructure that enables government to continue to respond. the goal, of course, and americans need to know this is that -- is to arrest the disease enough to enable governments to catch up with it and to begin to fund these programs themselves but they're not ready to do that yet. bono: some are getting there. and the health system is significant for women. for women in this audience, one of the most upsetting things and i know, laura, how you feel about this. the passing of the virus in utero from an h.i.v.-suffering mother to her child and we're going to eradicate that in the next few years. absolutely. i would give it three years.
it is within sight. \[applause] now, i will tell you this. we asked for a moon shot. we got one. we can count on congress left and right. because congress can count and any epidemiologist can tell you that when dealing with a pandemic like h.i.v./aids, you have to be running as fast or faster or it outruns you and i can count too. 43, the moon shot, 44 booster rockets, 45, oops, we may actually having got close to the
moon and nearly put a flag in it from the united states, we might be able to plant -- we might be about to put a flag of surrender for this disease. and it's not good enough. i want all of you to send a message to the administration that this is important to the american people. because i do believe they will hear you. \[applause] is it ok that i say that? >> you already did. joshua: i know the bush institute has piggybacked on that infrastructure and the work that it's done. talk a little bit about what the bush institute has been doing. president bush: so it broke our hearts, laura and i that women who had the aids virus that they would get cervical cancer. and in my book i called it the lazarus effect.
imagine what it's like in a village where mothers started to live and need lesley die dying needlessly die from cervical cancer. so we started an initiative. condi is the chair of our initiative. we recently did a deal that we're piggybacking on the pepfar effort. we're calling awareness to a problem. we're leaving infrastructure behind in some countries and trying to rally others to join us. and it's -- speaking of mother to child transmission, i told this to bono that laura and i looked at one of our cervical cancer programs from namibia, pretty hard word to say when you're from texas. and we went to a maternity ward. and i think there were probably 100 mothers.
all of the mothers had aids, but none of the babies had aids which is a fabulous, fabulous , development. \[applause] so anyway, here's the thing -- the question is -- is this in our national interest to do this? there's a lot of competing interests and bono knows that. he is up there battling on the hill a lot. i mean, we've got a loft problems,ot a lot of but we made the determination that there's no greater problem than the loss of human life. i mean, medicaid's a problem, social security reform is a problem. no question about it. but it's important to set priorities in life. and our administration believed human life was the highest priority. but it's going to require others to understand why this is in our national interest. and i think the best-selling point besides it's good for our heart -- it sounds nice like in a rock concert or something, i think really the national
security issue is really an important issue. but the problem is the farther we get away from 9/11, the more dulled people's memories have become and one of the things we do here at the bush center is not only remind people about the importance of global engagement by engaging, but constantly talking about what 9/11 means to our country. our greatest support at the moment with this administration are the military, the united states military. and i want to thank them. [applause] general mathis is a sobering comment. he said you cut the foreign aid budget, buy me more bullets. and it was condi over there who talked about diplomacy, defense and development.
it was really way ahead of its time. i went to the president and i had these pills in my hand. i said, to the president, paint these pills red, white and blue because these pills would be the greatest advertisements for america. he laughed and i laughed. but it turns time-out be true. -- it turns out to be true. the polling for the united states is incredible. and it turns out it's just a really smart, strategic thinking to be -- to try and stop fires rather than paying for them when they're out of control. and we were talking earlier, i can't remember who i was talking with. europe, what happened in syria, the effect that that has had in the european union, we nearly
lost the european union that is so great that the threat to europe from unmanaged migration and the political consternation that has come of it that's the country of 20 million. think about egypt. that's a country of 100 million. think about nigeria, god forbid anything should go wrong there. but the stated objective of boko haram is to split of what they call grace owns. zones. what are gray zones? gray zones are where christians and muslims live in harmony together. and in nigeria, most of the country that is true. but in the north where i visited last year, there are two million people walking around displaced without homes. their homes torched. and this is exactly the image you just painted. where are they going? and into whose arms are they running?
so it's just old-fashioned thinking to think that you can just hide or put your head in the sand or build something and that will keep the world out. it's just -- that's just not the world we're in anymore. so it's just old-fashioned and it was really cutting edge, avante garde -- thinking. and the millennium challenge corporation that condi spoke about is really clever. it was just a reward, good governance with investments and infrastructure and stuff like that. he called it start-up money for new democracies. it's just clever. he's got a way of making very complicated things appear very simple. but he is thinking this stuff through. and on the development stage -- we can argue about everything else, but this president on
behalf of all of you delivered an extraordinary thing in my life, and the life of anyone who cares about the fight against h.i.v./aids. \[applause] president bush: what time do you like to go to bed? >> i was just looking at my watch and i realized that 40 minutes ago, we past your bedtime. president bush: that's right. \[laughter] bono: have we got some hot milk for the president. his slippers, please. slippers for the president. [laughter] joshua: that's exactly the same time that bono's working day begins. [laughter] president bush: you want to know how when i learned the first benefits of aid as far as people appreciating america was in tanzania.
and laura and i went -- i think condi was with me. and we went on the trip. and they had made this cloth with my picture on it. and it turns out some women were wearing that cloth. and we're going down the road. there was like five of them doing this very interesting dance. and my face was spread on their butts. and i knew they really appreciated american help. bono: mr. president, you never looked as well. \[laughter] \[applause] joshua: i've got just two sets of questions. i'm going to put everybody out of their misery soon. i promise. but i want each of you to talk about family because i know how important that is to each of you. mr. president, you've been married 40 years.
bono -- president bush: luckily. bono: has been married 35 years. two daughters, two sons, two wonderful daughters. [applause] president bush: got to be a little rare in your line of work. bono: yeah. \[laughter] i'm married to an extraordinarily patient woman who happens to be my best friend as well. president bush: as am i. \[applause] joshua: say a little more about you, mr. president, about the role that your wife has played in your work in africa and how cool is it that your daughters are in the public space right now doing good things as well. president bush: well, jenna is
fostering the great relationship i had with nbc. \[laughter] bono: she's bringing back a great concept. it's called real news. president bush: laura and i are very proud of barbara and jenna. they're contributing women that are making a difference. particularly happy that jenna's got kids. grandparenthood -- well, you're not quite there yet. but anyway, eli is 2 1/2. happens to be the same age as my granddaughter. we're very proud. laura has been very engaged in this. i can remember -- she traveled with me to africa. but went alone with little barbara on a couple of trips to really encourage not only the nations involved that we're involved with, but the american workers that were there trying to help. and nothing like the president
of a first lady to inspire people and thank them. and she did a lot of good work on the continent of africa. we still like going back there. kind of a long flight when you're 71 years old. bono: but you've done it almost every year. president bush: global health -- jenna, we don't need anybody yelling at your father. \[laughter] bono, you want to mention global health corps. bono: i wanted to talk about the girls, if i kid. -- if i could. first of all, as well as the cervical cancer stuff that laura's been leading on with the stuff with malaria is really serious and impressive and you duck applause, but not tonight.
so i want to thank you for that. we really need jenna more than ever now. and this crazy idea of real news is -- is something we really appreciate. and -- and she's an activist at heart. and has been noisy whenever we needed that. i also -- you did the training stuff. and -- and in fact, that's what global health corps do with barbara. training trainers. and she stuck with it. how many people do you have now? >> 1,000. bono: so 1,000 of these -- you know, committed souls -- what's that? >> \[indiscernible] bono: it's magic stuff. no, this is a family -- you would not mess with this family. i have a daughter. our eldest daughter jordan is an activist.
she works with global citizen and now she works with this thing called action button, which is an idea that when you're reading a news story online and you feel involved in that story but you don't know how to react, you press the action button and you -- it sort of points you in the right direction. and huffington post has been and she is a clever girl, and her sister is an actor. 'se was in the stephen daughter brooke series, "the neck." and she is a deeply serious actor. i'm very proud of her. band ande is in a rock he has thought about his father, all of about six minutes. aboutldn't be bothered the problem of growing up with a
famous dad. he is an asthmatic and has called his band inhaler. is sixoungest son, john, foot, which is humiliating. [laughter] he is a great rugby player. i love them all and just talking about them, i miss them. but they are all committed to these ideas. it is very simple. we just want to be useful, nothing more complicated than that. our prayer is, and i hope you join me with this, our prayer is to be available for work. that is it. [applause] >> we have some beautiful prayer to bring us to a conclusion.
i think the two men on this stage have demonstrated again why they are my two biggest heroes. i am proud to be with you, proud to be associated with both of you. we thank you for being with us. [applause] >> i have just got to get him home now. i have got to get him home now. >> it is that time. i have a couple of things i want to say. first of all, thank you. game.ought your a most important, he touched the hearts and souls of everyone in this room, and there is nothing better than that. as we think back on the last couple of days, i have got to say that everybody brought their participants, the
i mean, everybody brought their one more big round of applause for them. [applause] congratulations to the inaugural award winners, bono, the pruitt family, 10 and holly, your oral your allte -- american teen. the board members, it is a pleasure to serve with you. everyone in this room loves america. everybody in this room that is our friend, that is here tonight to support us as we continue to develop leaders of character, out and going to go make this whole world a better place for all of mankind, we thank you. and we thank you for being here tonight. bezos, inight, jeff
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