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immigration and trade policy. california democratic congressman ted lieu will take questions on the north korea summit in singapore next week. washington journal is next. ♪ host: good morning everyone, it is friday, june 8. president trump leaves for canada to attend the g-7 summit with the leaders of germany, france, italy, canada and the u.k. the white house announced the president would leave the summit early to head to singapore for the historic meeting between the united states and north korea. with the president on the world stage in the coming days, we want to hear from you. do you approve or disapprove of his diplomatic style? if you approve, your line is (202)-748-8000. disapprove, (202)-748-8001.
you can also tell us what you think on twitter at http://twitter.com/cspanwj or on facebook. we begin with the front page of the wall street journal, "trump to exit summit early." reporting that president trump would leave the g7 earlier than planned. sarah sanders said late thursday that mr. trump would depart canada on saturday morning and route to singapore in anticipation of the meeting with kim jong-un on tuesday. the statement did not mention the escalating feud with the leaders of canada and france late thursday. mr. trump had signaled before the summit he would continue his policiesnda and tariff leaving observers worried about fractured relations between longtime allies. french president emmanuel
macron, who until now has been trump's closest ally in the european union, says the newest tariffs are pushing the six remaining nations of the g7 to become a force of their own. "you say the u.s. president does not care at all? maybe. no one is forever." macron went to twitter to reiterate. text signed have a by seven countries must not be stronger than the contents of that text. on principle, we must rule out a 6+1 agreement." "thent on to say, president may not mind being isolated but these values represent the economic market, which is now a true international force." the drudge page banner posted
"g-7 battles: america first." the president responded yesterday. president mccrone and minister to go, they are charging the u.s. massive tariffs. look forward to seeing them tomorrow. he woke up and treated them -- and tweeted this. farmers."to our "looking forward to working out unfair trade deals with g7 countries." good morning. caller: trump is one of them people, these type people, we
need to check his transcripts, his school grades and college grades, because there is a lot of people who can function but they cannot read and write. he don't read. you have to read stuff to them and children pictures and things. we need to check his transcripts. i don't feel like he is a literal person. his conversation to people like he does because i feel like that white privilege has got trump to where he is. james, given what you just said, what does that say about his diplomatic style? what do you think that is doing to america's standing in the world and our relationship with our allies? caller: style has nothing to do with substance. it could work. i feel like this is his only
thing he can do because he is not an educated type person and because of his white privilege, he is not an educated person. he went to school and was passed through. people just pass through and, they are giving grades and different type things. in life, they are successful, they can articulate something to you but you tell them to write it down on paper, they can't. host: james, we will leave it there. a cnn story about the president even as laterly, as thursday afternoon, trump was questioning why he would attend a g7 meeting where he's outnumbered on key issues like trade and climate change. a series of combative tweets with macron. he was told canceling the visit entirely with their like -- would appear like shrinking from
a fight. twitter, that on cnn today. they also note that mr. macron had testyump have phone calls last week, he is also had tense phone calls with the canadian prime minister. what do you think about the president's diplomatic style? from the washington post. "the twitter exchanges highlighted trump's contrasting negotiating purchase to allies and adversaries. the president traded barbs with the french president hours after punishment was relaxed against zte. willingness to conciliate china in hopes of a trade deal."
it is not just with u.s. allies, european nations, it is also his approach to meeting with north korea on the table for discussion this morning as well. thehat deal with zte, washington times front page. "caving to pressure, congress department announcing thursday it will scrap sanctions against zte and instead allow the telecommunications giant to get off with a $1 billion fine and stricter oversight." "one of the strictest compliance deals ever reached and will include a team embedded in company operations to prevent further problems." outraged republicans and wererats say the penalties far too weak for a company found doing business with north korea and iran." otherss marco rubio and are looking to block action by the commerce department. james, and durham, north
carolina, you disapprove. trump maythink mr. have been running his own company, his real estate company -- he cannot run america like he would run his autocratic real estate company. i wonder how long the people in congress are going to allow him to do this? host: what should they do? caller: i think they should do what they were elected to do. alreadyks and balances, in place by the constitution. things theygree on agree with him and stand up and disagree with things they know they should stand up and disagree for. they are there to work for the american people, they are not there to work and at these mr.
trump -- appease mr. trump. host: there is a coalition of lawmakers looking to stop the president on tariffs. " republicans have complained for years that the executive has encroached on the powers of the legislature but the gop has not done much to stop the invasion,. this week, finally rebelling against the unilateral trade war and we are glad to see it. senator bob corker introduced a bill to rein in trump's power. like working with others, mark warner of virginia to minimize the damage of tariffs. retaliation oned everything from motorcycles to chocolate. mr. trump may be willful enough to escalate.
bill would amend the trade expansion act of 1962 which under section 232 allows the president to impose terrace restrictions in the name of national security. the corker legislation would require the president to submit to 32 restrictions to congress for approval under an expedited process. the white house is trying to block a vote on the bill, which he wants to move on an amendment to the national defense authorization act. this tends to pass with bipartisan support any white house is arguing the corporate provision would hurt mr. trump's ability to negotiate. it is clear that they may turn do -- if lousy if they he does. either the house or senate might fail and show congress is impotent or the president will veto but so what?
congress does not take orders from mr. trump and they had their own constituents to represent. point, callings' for congress to hold him accountable. jeff, youelds, disapprove? are you there? caller: yes. host: good morning, you are on the air. caller: good morning. it is painfully obvious when you and strife division being created by this president, with certain types of people globally and domestically you can see, who the strife is not being treated with. we are now fighting with our allies, not the russians. we're fighting domestically, dividing people along racial lines. this president has an agenda.
the agenda -- people know it in the white house and i'm waiting for the leadership to come and express themselves intelligently to us that they know what is going on -- they are trying to make us appear that we do not know what is going on but we know what is going on. the connection to russia is painfully obvious. the connection to communistic leaders is painfully obvious. when our american republicans going to stand up for this country? for america? for the constitution? when are they going to do it? we know what is going on. that, whatyou say you think, all these actions by the president are motivated by russia? is that the accusation you're making? caller: these actions are ofivated by the crumbs senatorsnvestigating, are starting to stand up and recognize. they are motivated by his deep
connection to russia, to some degree. that is what the american people have got to understand. we don't have the detailed intelligence here in the public but they know inside, what is happening. we must stand up to protect this country from this president, that has some deep connection to communistic positions. host: roy agrees with the president's diplomatic style. go ahead. caller: 10 years ago i was stationed in germany. i went to price cars, i could buy three italian made sports cars for the price, three italian made sports cars for the price of one chevrolet and impala. -- italian sports car we have been unfairly charged extra money for buying american
cars in germany. it is unfair. germany loves american cars but they cannot afford to buy it. last thing. trump,rstand president google mark taylor and a show called, supernatural. also rabbi jonathan khan. trump has a mission to restore america. i wish more people would look at that prophecy about what trump is doing. so many of us are ignorant of what he is actually trying to do, his plan to make america great again. the eu trade, commissioner wright's an opinion piece in the wall street , saying disagreeing friends don't let friends impose tariffs.
s will raise the price of imported and domestically produced steel and aluminum. the price hike will hurt all u.s. companies that use it as input. like the auto companies. fewer americans will be able to afford cars that will become suddenly more expensive." kentucky, you disapprove? good morning. caller: how are you? host: good. caller: donald trump is one of the most ignorant presidents we have ever had. he does not even understand trade balance. international trade is not the government spends money and spends too much to china and we are mad about it -- american people spend their money at walmart buying chinese goods. the problem with the trade imbalance is we buy more from china then they buy from us.
tough cookies. it is like saying, you don't like having a bodega in your neighborhood -- get over it. the international trade system has imbalances so we are doing just fine. why are they picking fights with all our allies and making all because donald trump doesn't understand the basics of international trade relationships? he is a complete idiot and he is running our country into the ditch. the american people, for example, need to know what he has done to the solar power industry. north carolina is number 2 in the nation, i'm from north carolina, currently in kentucky, california, the generation of solar power. solar power depends critically on buying the photovoltaic cells from china right now because they are cheaper. all the business plans have been based on the price of chinese
solar panels. we can manufacture them and replace them but the business plans and the tax incentives that promote solar power are critically dependent on that. donald trump has done a good industry bye coal killing the solar power industry right when it is on the take up giving competition to dirty coal. this guy is a nutcase and we need to get rid of him. host: you might be interested in the financial times this morning. has anthe paper, it in-depth story about chinese investments in the electric grid around the world. it sounds like you might be interested in that topic. the president tweeting this morning "congratulations to the washington capitals on their great play in winning the stanley cup championships. alexander o best in was
spectacular -- ovechkin was spectacular." ovechkin raising the stanley cup. since washington had won a championship in a major professional sport. 44 years, the hockey team came into existence in 1974 and mrs. the first stanley -- and this is the first stanley cup title. desmond, you approve? caller: good morning. kudos to the president. i agree about the stanley cup. good for the capitals. normally i would not agree with the president on something like this but he is the president of the united states. he sets the agenda. the folks voted him in and if policies and up -- end up being
detrimental, it has to play out to prove that. i prove the fact that he is the president and has the right to do it as the executive. i think it is too early to jump to conclusions, but either it will work or not work. we are already seeing senator corker coming out against it because of the many automobile manufacturers relocating south. the proof is in the pudding. if it turns out that a the folks instrumental in putting trump in office, that is the way it will be. if it turns out to be -- go ahead. host: i was going to ask your reaction to this headline on bloomberg. angela merkel urging to step up.
she made a forceful pitch for europe to play a more assertive role in global affairs as donald trump dismantles the post world war ii order setting the stage for a tense standoff at the group of seven summit this week. what do you think about our or accusingting us us of one of us to isolate ourselves? caller: that they do not know trump like we do. they gave him a wide berth at the beginning, they didn't understand who they were dealing with. he makes his own decisions. host: you're referring to these other leaders? caller: correct. don't -- theyhey didn't really understand what was going on politically here. they missed the populism to a certain degree. now they are seeing the executive we have. trump doesn't consult anyone. he makes his decisions based on
his gut instincts or whichever way the prevailing clinical winds are blowing. for better or for worse, we will have him for the next two years. political party i have to respect the office. he has every right to do what he is doing good host: did you feel the same way when president obama was in office? caller: 100%. i draw the line constitutionally. 4 had a revolution every years. we will have to play it out. host: kevin in jackson, mississippi, disapprove. caller: how are you? host: doing well. caller: thank you for taking my call. i was wanting to say, the president, with north korea, the summit coming up, he should not be meeting with a tyrant. host: you disapprove of that.
why? his elections are never for real. his grandfather started north korea. him -- they then don't have elections. the people are put down so bad. my heart goes out to them. they are in a bad way. if you disapprove, you go to a work camp. host: the president is getting ready to leave the white house and board air force one to make his way to canada this morning, where he will be meeting with the other g-7 leaders for talks today. part of saturday as well. he was supposed to stay in canada for talks until midday,
he has decided he will leave and miss a discussion on climate change as well as another g-7 family photo. we will have coverage of the meetings in canada today between the president and leaders. there will be a welcoming ceremony around 11:45 a.m. eastern time. we will bring that to you on c-span3. close to 5 p.m. eastern time, mr. trump will be sitting down with the canadian prime minister, justin trudeau for what they call bilateral meetings. we will have coverage of that on c-span. go to our website, www.c-span.org, you can also listen with the free c-span radio app. president goese to singapore for the meeting. the front page of the washington times this morning, "trump says attitude will be big asset for summit with kim."
the president insists he is prepared. days away, mr. trump says after months of briefings he has studied the issue as much as he can. "i don't think i have to prepare very much. it is about the attitude." here is the president yesterday in the rose garden, a joint news conference with the japanese prime minister. [video clip] >> we are going to, we will have a great success. i don't think it will be in one meeting, it will take longer. this has been going on for many, many decades. this is something that should have been solved by other presidents, as i have said often before, long before this point, they waited until the last second. they should not have waited. this should have been solved by many others, not just president obama, other presidents, a long time ago this could have been solved in a lot easier manner.
manneress dangerous but it wasn't so i will solve it and we will get it done. as far as the prime minister is concerned, we have agreed we will be helping, if the deal is done, we will be helping north korea, working with china, with south korea. terrific,xi has been the border is more close then ever before and i would like a closed more but it is more closed than ever before. china has never worked with us this way and i give them credit because, we are in a dispute to the imbalance of trade. it is a massive imbalance in china's favor, it has been that way for many decades and it should have also been handled by previous presidents, but it was not. so i will handle that. andve president xi president moon tremendous credit. they have been living with the threat of war from their
beginning. it does not make sense. i really believe kim jong-un wants to do something, he wants to see something incredible happen for the people of north korea. we have a lot of great opportunities right now. shouldn't have waited to this point but we have a lot of great opportunities. host: president trump on his upcoming meetings in singapore on tuesday. the washington times says "a successful summit could include north korea's commitment to complete denuclearization and a formal ending to the korean war, a standoff in the dmz for 65 years. success would be agreements for more meetings, which would be necessary for the dismantling of the nuclear weapons facilities. analysts estimate a complete dismantling of the extensive rogue ramp could take as long as 10 years."
mike pompeo has met with kim jong-un twice. "e reclusive leader has indicated he is prepared to denuclearize." he understands the current model does not work and is prepared to denuclearize and he understands he cannot do it the way we have done it before, that this has to be big and bold and we have to agree to making major changes." the president saying at that news conference, the headline in the new york times, "the iran policy worked and he predicts success with kim jong-un as well. your thoughts. kevin in jackson, mississippi. you disapprove. good morning. caller: i disapprove. host: tell us why? the president is
fly-by-night, off the handle all the time and the summit, as i said, he should not be meeting with him. he is a tyrant. host: ok. we will go to anthony in hawaii and approves. good morning. caller: i would like to say thank you for having this discussion. very cool. i do approve, it is working and finally, the callers can make it clear, the gentleman previously approved, trump is his own man and he is finally standing up to the regime to know that there is a globalism thing happening. this witch hunt that has been going on for so long and nothing has come of it. they all know it was ridiculous. trump is his own man and finally standing up and he cares for america. i voted for obama in 2008 and cried tears of joy but i realized that he was not
standing up for the united states. trump is different. i wish he was more on the environmental side but there is something special going on. i'm very excited. host: michael also approves in maryland. caller: how is it going? thank you for having me. host: go ahead. caller: i agree with the last caller for the most part. i like trump. tariffs are a good idea to boost steel and aluminum production in this country. he wants america first. that is a positive thing for our country. is a populist president but look at europe. populism is on the rise because of the immigration. it is a great idea too. you have to look out for your own people. that is how the world works. china looks out for their people and we should look out for hours. -- ours.
host: senator jeff flake who is retiring this year came to the senate floor and criticized u.s. policy. [video clip] >> instead we find ourselves today led by those who express admiration for authoritarianism, in russia, china, the philippines and other places who make common cause with bullies who flirt with tyrants. we see a world dissenting into wherevistic tribalism, dealings between nations are driven by fear and antagonism, bullying and threats, taunts, rather than mutual benefit. we find ourselves led by those who would fall for isolationist instincts and antiquated preindustrial protectionist economic philosophies, the very
same shortsighted nostrums that ushered in the great depression. those that would reject a decades long consensus on the virtues of free trade, open markets, international interdependence, the policies that have led to the greatest sustained growth that our world has ever seen. what shall our friends make of such erratic behavior? how will they respond to such confusing actions? how long willly, they remain our friends if this irrational approach continues? ,lliances, institutions, pacts that took generations to patiently build, generations more to solidify, that were paid for in blood and treasure, are shattered in an ill tempered second, ill considered tantrum, a childish taunt, a bellicose
insult. incoherent policy utterances, not by tweet, contradicted in the space of a single new cycle, muddied and mercurial, this is not grown up leadership. our allies are left baffled, confused, often appalled. make no mistake. our allies and those who look to american leadership will not wait for us to come to our senses, if we abandon our role as leader in the world today, it may very well be not there -- it may not be there tomorrow. host: senator jeff flake yesterday criticizing u.s. leadership, abandoning pacts like g7 and others, nato etc. as the president gets ready to leave washington and go to canada for the annual g-7 summit, he will be there until saturday morning and then he goes to singapore for the historic meeting on tuesday
between the united states president and the north korean leader, kim jong-un. we will have coverage of that, you can go to our website for the g-7 summit and the meeting in singapore, www.c-span.org, you can follow it there. and possible, outcomes between united states and north korea, "the white house would seek congressional approval of any deal." this coming from mike pompeo telling reporters yesterday that they would seek approval of any north korean deal from the u.s. congress. what are your thoughts on the president's diplomatic style? let's go to al in california. tell us why you approve? caller: the countries complaining do not pay their 2% to the u.n.. all the countries that are complaining, the taxpayers have deficit of our
trading between our countries. i don't know how that is good for united states. host: ok. let me show you this. this is from the new york times this morning. u.s. tariffs will hurt growth. "analysis of the trade agenda has concluded tariffs will hurt economic growth in the united states. the finding has been circulated only internally and not publicly released, as is often the case, making the exact economic projections unknown. the determination comes as top white house officials continued to insist publicly that the trade approach will be good for the u.s. economy. the chairman for the economic council, a conservative think tank, dodged questions at a briefing on tuesday about whether tariffs would hurt the economy, that has accelerated
during mr. trump's tenure. asked whether they had modeled the impact on the united states economy, he said, mr. trump was a great negotiator who would persuade other countries to open their markets to american products." let's go to dennis in las vegas. you approve and you are on the air. caller: thanks for having me. i approve of the diplomatic moves, going to north korea. the only other option is to attack them, bomb them. we gave a show of force to them, they realized they had no other option. once we do meet up with kim jong-un and get something settled, it will open up a little bit of society to their country that is so isolated. it will take a lot of time to get them on the track of the international community but are only other option is war, and we
do not want that. with tariffs, like the guy from indiana said, it is wait and see. it could be drastic. other leaders don't like it. that is ok. let's see what happens. if it works, great. if not, he is voted out and we try something else. host: from the financial times out of london, "key trade concessions to beijing. highlighting rising tensions ahead of the g-7 summit in quebec between the u.s. and long-standing partners in the eu, canada and japan. they have been frustrated by a more conciliatory approach with china. justin trudeau, told a joint press conference with emmanuel macron, in ottawa, that the u.s. was imposing tariffs on steel and aluminum on national security grounds. he said, one cannot wage
commercial war on allies. our soldiers fight side-by-side to defend our values. no one is eternal." mr. ross, the commerce secretary accused allies and being hypocritical. "they have not bothered to use any excuse while they have asymmetrical tariffs against us. " he also said "u.s. tariffs have worked." marco rubio leading criticism of mr. trump's shift on zte, lashing out on the agreement calling it a bad deal and vowing to continue his push for congressional action to block it. that, happening in the house as the president sets off for the world stage today, canada first and then to singapore.
there is the issue of immigration playing out domestically here in washington and the fracture in the republican party over what to do about the deferred action arrival program, daca. the speaker of the house, paul ryan, killed his weekly news conference yesterday. he said all is going well. politico has a headline "talks go off the rails." [video clip] running a were discharge petition because they were worried we were not going to take action, that they were not going to be able to have votes on the floor for policies they like. i think members realize, a discharge petition will not make law. members realized it is better to have a process that has a chance of going to law, van not. that is why the conversation we had this morning about the 4 pillars which has a daca
solution, is the most optimistic plausible chance of getting into law. that is why our members, our thanking their colleagues for engaging in this conversation. issues, wee tough have long conferences, people come and express their views and when you see that happening, which is what we have been doing the last few weeks, you find there is more consensus that not -- than not. that is the process we have had for the last few weeks. our members are appreciative of the fact that we have the right kind of conversations happening in the next step is to start putting pen to paper. host: that was paul ryan around 11:30 a.m. yesterday. after that things fell apart according to politico. gop efforts to tamp down and immigration war appears to run aground, hours after a feel-good
meeting where lawmakers predicted they could clinch a deal. members of the ultraconservative freedom caucus offered them a knowledge branch, they thought could help the showdown. a new visa program that would lead to citizenship. such an offer would have represented a significant developed for immigration hawks who have long dismissed legal status as amnesty. as conservatives quickly denied any such proposal was made, centrist republicans unraveling any goodwill built during the meeting earlier in the day, which was intended to avert a discharge petition, forcing immigration votes. the freedom caucus has made any "we are continuing to talk with colleagues and remain engaged in the process of working toward ideas that will secure the borders." as the group went back on their word, representative jeff denham, a moderate leader, who
is part of the charge to put a discharge petition on the floor, he said "moderates have set a deadline for tuesday to garner the final 218 signatures they need to force a bipartisan immigration vote, democrats salvage the daca program." according to reporters yesterday, republicans are only three votes away from the 218 they need to force a vote. moderate republicans are saying, they have let a couple deadline comingt the tuesday one up is the final deadline and if a deal is not made, they will be bringing that discharge petition to the floor. if you missed speaker ryan's news conference, you can find it on our website, www.c-span.org. the washington times. "the inspector general reports on how the former fbi director
handled the investigation into hillary clinton, releasing on june 14. michael horowitz, the inspector general says he will appear on capitol hill on june 18 to answer questions about findings, which are about james comey and loretta lynch. the report will cover the fbi and the justice department's decision during the 2016 election." the latest report will only focus on the clinton email investigation. of abuses by the fbi and justice department, announced in march, will remain separate." the review will determine if the agency acted inappropriately. the fbi is said to have relied dossier toredited
fund a warrant. jay in scottsville, virginia, you disapprove. caller: i believe we have a of temptation in the white house now that reaches the level of genesis. we have a dancer with a serpent. have a purveyor of emotional reality, you can choose the emotional reality or we can choose logic. we do have a problem with trade. we can deal with it rationally. we can be like president gerald project,'s, a becoming the world's manufacturing center.
but ronald reagan decided to stop that. we can be rational or emotional. we now have the most emotional person, he chooses by emotion. emotional reality, turning that into physical reality, is a lot of friction. it is bad choicing. temptation, we have to learn from that. we are not learning. so it is all up to us and we have to see how it comes out. host: paul in oklahoma, you approve or it good morning. caller: good morning. i want to bring to people's attention and let anyone who calls in explain this: what other country in the world could sustain $800 billion trade deficit? also, everyone is bringing up
the point about, it will hurt the workers. i've heard the numbers of 14,000, and a couple of million dollars, in the last 25 years because of the global trade practices, america, has sustained, we lost 5 million jobs and 70,000 businesses. something needs to be done. anybody who calls in, please explain and list all the countries that can sustain $800 billion deficit year after year. thanks. host: sally is next in st. petersburg, florida. you approve. caller: hi. i approve. closed allwhen they our businesses. i was in detroit. we had great lakes deal, the car companies and we were living
wonderfully. all of a sudden, i left home and came back and every house, there were about four houses on each block that people lived -- people moved out. all of our companies left the united states. people were starving for jobs. why the heck they would allow people to leave like that, the steel companies are gone a number one, you buy anything made out of steel from some, you put it outside, kind of outside furniture, in three months it is resting. i didn't get to use the darn $400 thing for a year. trump is absolutely correct. you all charging us, on dairy 300% tariffs
products but they will not allow our products to sell them dairy products. we cannot get it going in there. trump has got to balance that out and have us make the money that they are making or have them lower their tariffs to the tariffs.ffs, lower our it is wrong what they are doing. why should we have to pay a 300% tariff and they pay 20% or 25%? no. you do not do that. aree three companies hooking up together because they know they will lose money. the only reason everybody started moving out was because our politicians were getting kickbacks to allow people to move out. how do you think some of them are living in 4 million-dollar homes? tim in alabama, you disapprove. caller: i disapprove.
--hink if you look at trump he was voted in by some people, they said he was a businessperson or businessman -- he filed bankruptcy five or six times. if you look at what he is doing bankruptingctually the united states with his foolishness. one other thing, when they look rate, theyployment said the unemployment rate is great. you have to look at -- that is part of the economy. not just looking at the unemployment rate -- look at the price of gas that people are paying. look at, in the next few years, going into medicare and medicaid and social security to pay for this tax plan he has.
all the price of food and everything is going up. you don't look at just unemployment as one part, you have to look at the whole economy. this man is bankrupting this country. i am surprised the people just don't see it. thank you. host: that was tim in alabama. more your calls, keep dialing. what is your opinion on trump's diplomatic style? do you approve or disapprove? other quick headlines in the news this morning. cdc, their report that suicide rates are on the rise in almost every state, more so than opioids and accidents. coming on that is, this is breaking news that anthony urdain dies at the age of 61 of suicide. he traveled around the world introducing people to culture and history through food, dead
at the age of 61. in the washington post this morning, the story about epa administrator scott pruitt enlisted security detail in picking up dry cleaning and seeking out a moisturizing lotion from the ritz-carlton. that is in the paper this morning. below that, a story about house gop attacking spending highlighting fiscal restraint as midterms loom. republicans are embracing physical discipline as they seek to shore support ahead of the elections. they voted thursday night to approve a proposal calling back $15 billion in unspent funds from a variety of programs. this past the house with 19 republicans voting no. it includes $7 billion from the children's health insurance program from expired accounts. $5 billion from energy department programs including a
little-known program for advancing technology, and a smaller variety of programs including land acquisition and the millennium challenge gore. co there is also thisre. . voters signal they want a democratic congress. democraticnbc poll, advantages, the same time as the president's approval ratings has climbed to 44%. disapprove of the job performance but democrats need 23 seats in the house to regain control. the survey conducted june 1 through the fourth, offers encouraging news for mr. trump and those who believe the party should be rewarded with the economy. 40% of voters said the economy improved and 44% said mr. trump deserved credit. republicans among
stands at 84%. you can read more of that in the washington journal. this lengthy piece in the washington post. "gop investigation finds obama officials misled congress on iranian money." there is also this on the front page of the new york times. "power couple pumps millions into the hard right." another piece about this midwestern couple, who were the founders of a beer company, underwriting antiestablishment assailtes who transgender rights. eric,o our conversation, in illinois, you disapprove of the president's diplomatic style? caller: good morning. i have always thought if trump and the rest of the rich people
were patriotic, they would suffer some loss and make their products in america. the government allowed them to leave america through corporate welfare and it is always a big to do about everything we have to do to get them to come back, when it is all about money. where is the real patriotism from these people that are sucking up the world's wealth? that is why i disapprove. people could make change on their own if they really wanted to help us. thank you. host: don in myrtle beach, south carolina. you agree with what the president is doing? caller: i agree and you just had hispeople on, mr. flake, comments and you also have pelosi's comments. flake is a flake and so is policy. -- pelosi. host: tell us why. everything he is doing
is correct and should be done the way he is doing it. host: anthony in missouri, you disapprove. caller: yes. i am here. i strongly disapprove with this administration. the most corrupt administration in the history of the united dates. -- the united states. the president is a racist idiot, a sexist idiot. he should not be in the white house. he should be removed immediately and put into jail where he belongs. host: on what crime? caller: colluding with the russians. host: what evidence do you have of that? theer: the simple fact that things he has done with tryings, vladimir putin, to remove sanctions already in place just because, i believe he
has dealt with russian gangsters and he is in debt with them because he has been bankrupt so many times. host: where have you read that? where is that information? caller: all in the news. , fixerlings he has done cohen, all the other people in his campaign, administration, all lying about it. if they were not wrong, why were they lying? host: vladimir putin, the russian leader held his annual call in program yesterday. he took calls for 4.5 hours. one of the headlines was "military needs to stay in syria. the president takes questions on tv." questions selected from more than 2 million
submitted by russian citizens. you can go to a website, www.c-span.org to watch a portion of what the russian president had to say. there is this event we covered from nasa tv, they held programming on discoveries on mars that could boost the search for ancient life on the planet. gas from rocks more than 3 billion years old, dug up by one of the explorers on mars, scientists have identified complex organic molecules, possible building blocks for organic life. it is not aliens but it is consistent with the past residence of biology. you can go to our website, www.c-span.org if you missed that yesterday and are interested. ray, in newark, california, you disapprove. caller: i definitely disapprove.
i remember in kindergarten, one of the things we were evaluated on was getting along well with others. we live in a global community now. i don't think the tough guy is the, you know, the way to promote world peace. in fact you know, what happens to a playground bully is that everybody else gets together on limits whatnd and, he is doing, definitely or he gets exposed as the insecure person he or she is. i would rather have a president that understands what negotiations are about. as theotes himself master negotiator but oh my goodness, he seems to be
andnating all of our allies making decisions that will be harmful to the rest of us for many many decades. there, will leave it gland in hawaii, disapproves. in hawaii, disapproves. caller: good morning. host: you are on the air. caller: ok. i would like to look at a little different way. middle 1960's, finally people representing you and i, our government, actually responded to what science had been begging them for more than 20 years. pipes throughout
the united states. people living in cities are drinking the water. host: we are short on time. how is this connected to the president's diplomatic style? caller: i have been through testing. at the end of testing -- host: i have to leave it there, apologies. coming up, two members from congress from both sides
of the aisle giving us their take on the upcoming g-7 and north korean summits. first, tom reed and then later on, ted lieu of california. last night former president bill clinton and james patterson were at the warner theatre in washington to discuss their suspense novel, "the president is missing." this will air tomorrow night at 7 p.m. eastern time. [video clip]
>> the book opens with the same painfully reminiscent of many congressional hearings. i guess that was something he wanted to relive, sir? [laughter] >> no, actually, it's patterson at his best. i wish i could take credit for it. you have to have a good opening, right? my job was to keep it real. difference -- it deals with the potential of the president being impeached, but the
difference in this case is this president says if i did what they accuse me of doing for any of the reasons they accuse me of impeachable is an offense and i ought to be impeached to be removed from office. i didn't, but i can't tell them. if i tell them, they will blab. and if i blab come it will put the country at war risk. it is the first example of what happens when you become so
polarized that nobody trusts anybody anymore. >> we had a little bit of fun and initially. there is nothing political in this book. we really did not set out to be political. i would say in the year that we have been together, i think the president has come up twice. -- whatnot a political it is about and one of the important things we agreed upon is for 20 or 30 years now, most of what you hear about the president on "every night " saturday night live," " "scandal," people start diminishing the job. want people to remember how important the job is, how dramatic it is, how dangerous it is. elect a they go to
president or congress men in the midterms, you just remove the hell that is when you cast your vote. it's really important with a serious job with serious people. whatever side of the aisle they are on, they want to do a good job. they want to do a good job. >> what were you trying to accomplish? to remember people that it is a job. no offense to your current life and you have done a great job and have been wildly successful, but it is possible in today's media drenched world for people just to draw all their conclusions based on very quick snippets in the news. even if you are president, you get an average of like eight seconds at a time. that's about our attention span. if that's true, it's troubling because it applies have nine
second attention span. you get the idea. the truth is what we run the risk of doing is either loving or despising a cartoon. and people and problems and opportunities tend to be three-dimensional. announcer: "washington journal" continues. we're back at the table with congressman tom reed of new york, cochair of the problem solvers caucus. let's begin with the president's tariffs on steel and aluminum on canada, germany, and some of our allies. reaction overseas has not been positive. do you support what the president has done? guest: i do support the disruption the president is bringing to the trade agenda because the status quo is just not sustainable. it's great to be with you. thanks for having us on. what the president is doing is
what he promised he was going to do. is going to put american interests first and disrupt the trade policy to get to an even a level playing field so we can compete around the world. that is all we are looking for, a fair deal that allows our american workers to have an opportunity to succeed. host: the chairman of the ways and means committee, kevin "ify, was quoted as saying, steel and aluminum tariffs on efforts tots america create good paying u.s. jobs by selling more made in america products to customers in these countries. " orrin hatch says, "tariff on steel and aluminum imports are a tax hike on americans will have damaging consequences for consumers, manufacturers, and workers." guest: this is all about having a different trade agenda that will ultimately strengthen the american consumer position and strengthen the american steel and aluminum industry.
from my perspective, that short-term type of concern that people are worried about is losing side of the long-term outcome that is achievable here. having worked with the trade ambassadors and having a meeting with them yesterday, working with the trade team and the administration come i think the administration believes there's an opportunity to go down this path of disruption and tell the world that america is not messing around any for. let's face it. but these initial skirmishes are about is not the real battle. the real battle is taking on china and positioning against china to say that we will not put up with any of these unfair practices have been engaging in for decades. host: how can it be short-term when these countries are threatening to retaliate and go to the world trade organization? guest: is a process in order for that to occur. to the wto and we litigate cases, we have been successful 99% of the time at the debbi wto.
that essentially tells me that everyone else is not playing by the rules but we are. that takes years to go through that process. there is a process. these tariffs do not go in immediately overnight. what will happen is that in the meantime, negotiations will continue. i think it's in everyone's best interest. take a deep breath and stay at the table. the worst thing that canada and mexico can do right now is leave the room, leave the table. you seen cases from the canadian negotiators that it's the best path to elect. they will come back to the room and negotiate. you see what happened to brazil and south korea. ,e came to the table negotiated, and fix the problems and we have an opportunity to compete with them in a fair situation that we did before. host: are you concerned about any long-term diplomatic damage with our allies when you have the french president and the canadian prime minister on twitter and in a news conference yesterday saying they
will fight side-by-side? why are you citing national security concerns in terrorists and taking a console is very -- tariffs and taking console terry approach to china -- conciliatory approach to china? guest: that someone off in my opinion. the longer play is to hold china accountable for their acts that they have been engaged in over the years. when it comes to canada and mexico, clearly we are very close allies. greta, i often say this. i'm the youngest of twelve. i've at a older sisters and three brothers. we had our differences, but mom always got us together and work it out. that is exactly how i see canada and mexico being taken care of. we know that there are differences, but we have close friends. we stay at the table and need to negotiate.
in any negotiation coming to not get 100% of what you want and everyone recognizes that. host: harris is in illinois, a democrat. caller: good morning. good morning to your guest. on these tariffs that he is , you know, i don't know how to think if it's good or bad or not. i think the problem is companies getting tax breaks to leave the country. that's where half our problems are. we need to make these companies inng jobs back to america cities in ohio and the automobile industry decimated them by going to mexico, canada, and china. we need to bring jobs back. if this is going to bring back jobs to america, i say then
trump is doing a great job. host: let's take your points. is the new trade agenda going to be good for american jobs and companies in regards to making it here and selling around the world, once we get to the long-term process here, but what he points out his tax policy. thank goodness we did tax policy. a lot of people hearing the political arguments and political campaigns are engaging on it, but if we had not done tax reform on the business side of the code, we would've lost companies left and right. we were the least competitive tax environment and world.he we were in antiquated worldwide versus territorial system. every country was in a much more attractive position. copies were leaving in drills from america because they could not sustain that tax burden. we fix that. we will see an opportunity to
grow the economy with a trade policy that is fair. you have a tax policy that makes america competitive. i will tell you that's a recipe for bringing jobs back to american soil. that's the long-term vision that i know this administration is trying to treat. i do believe that we are on the right path to see that growth and opportunity right here on american soil. host: in the last couple of days, we heard from the actuaries of social security and medicare that part of the early solvency reports that they have reports-- and solvency on those two programs is due to the tax cut. guest: i can appreciate some of those concerns. however, when you see the trustees reports reaffirming what we all know that social security and medicare have been on a path to insolvency and for decades, that's why we need to fix social security medicare, i don't . i don't get bogged down in the political can fans that want to
say that we want to destroy social security medicare. does the furthest from the truth. what i found in the trustees report is exactly what i know, if we do nothing, we will put a means of americans and the they're relying on social security and medicare and rightfully so because they have paid for them and contributed to the. whatm. what i think will be proven different from the actuarial reports is when you see that economic growth, 3% or 4% growth in america that everyone told us is impossible, that 2% growth is the maximum we will see, growth will overcome a lot of these problems in these reports, but we still fundamentally have to fix social security and medicare for the long-term. host: ron is watching in california. question or comment here for the congressman? caller: thank you for taking the call. congressman reed, a couple of things that you might want to consider. have you ever heard of october 29, 1999? that happened to be a time when
we had 25% tariffs on most things in this country protecting our imports from foreign imports. as a result of that, we sailed into the biggest world global depression in history. we have 3% and 4% growth at that time in our country. some of these things are counterproductive. the big question i have for you is -- here we produce from our federal banking system $35 billion a month that we plugged into the global economy. what is it? we are 1/6 of the whole total global economy. that's my question. are we part of the global economy are not? /6 of ourw can 16 of ou global economy influence the
other 56 if we take away our jobs? everyone brings up this 300% tariff line. you know what? butter used to cost a dollar per pound. then we started exporting all of our good dairy products overseas. they pay a lot more for those dairy products in all the five-star restaurants in the world than they do here. if you are a dairy got, you are selling your goods overseas and i will raise the price of our goods here. please answer the question. are we in a global economy? guest: just so we're clear, i recognize 95% of the world consumers live outside of america's border. we need to access the world economy, but accessing the world economy in the position we are in my humble opinion puts us in a negative position, puts us in an uncompetitive position. that we are talking about with these tariffs is not for the purpose of isolationism, but we
are saying look, we need to address our trade policy so we have a level come a fair playing field that are market can serve the world economy and they can compete again india make and market. that is what the president is trying to do. it's about fixing trade policy that is putting us in a negative position. i appreciate your reference talk to the tournament -- october 29. the concern i have there is that it's a much different world. we have been running decades of trade negative balances. we have been upside down on trade for decades. it has hollowed out that core u.s. manufacturing base for example. it has hollowed out many of our industries because you can't absorb that type of deficit long-term. what we are looking at and what i'm supportive of his opening up our market, opening up their market, and engaging that world level and a fair playing field manner and we all
went. that's the difference. was a muchina different situation than it is in 2018. that is ultimately where this trade issue is heading. is not about canada and mexico in my humble opinion. they are just as important. it's about china. it's about china. it's about china. host: let's go to chris, who is an independent in tennessee. caller: yes, sir. i agree with you 100% on that. it's about china. i'm just some poor, stupid hillbilly. you think i could write a trade bill? one paragraph -- reciprocal trade. if people impose terence on our goods, we impose the same tariffs. it seems a lot more simple -- excuse me -- then politicians are making it out to be. your on the right track -- you are on the right track here. i'm as focused on building up
china's economy than the american economy or the eu. guest: you are one of the wisest voices i have heard in the last few months in the commentary you offered here. let's keep it simple. we are not looking for any unfair advantage for us as americans. what we are looking for is a fair shake. all we are looking for our policies when you have people like china stealing our intellectual property, requiring us to locate our business over there with no ownership interest of american ownership in those businesses, it puts those businesses at risk. if it's that next generation -- it puts that next generation of products at risk. when china is stealing an electoral property and they build a whole industry based off of that and we say that's not right and we have to turn to the court for four or five or 10 years with litigation in order to get some sort of justice, after four or five or 10 years, that business is gone. that business cannot sustain that. now that technology has left
america. this is putting our interest at the same level as chinese interest as well as other trading partners around the world. if we look at it from that perspective, greta, i think a lot of folks that are suffering rightfully so some anxiety and fear as we go through this new trade policy will look at the long-term and say there is a vision here. there is a path here that we ultimately going to come out at the end in a much shorter position. host: the president has been citing section 232 trade expansion act, giving him the authority to do these tariffs. it's a provision of the 1952 law that gives the white house abroad ability to impose terrace and exempt trade partners along the way based on national security concerns. "the wall street journal" editorial board says today that the president should not be citing that law and they agree with senator bob corker of tennessee that congress should be able to approve or disapprove of these tariffs.
do you agree that congress should get a say? guest: they can be mutually shared, but it did believe congress needs to utilize that authority much more than we have done historically and to take more of our responsibility and roll back into this process. that is why trade promotion authority, how we set these trade deals going forward, was exactly along that. we are no longer going to delegate trade policies to the of ministrations -- administration and the present 100%. we claim back in congress rightfully so that authority so we can be part of that legislative process and be a voice of the people in that exchange. i think we are going down the right half when we see things like trade promotion authority, but at the end of the day, this is about making sure we work as partners with the president as well as congress. host: would you sign on to senator corker's legislation if there was an equivalent in the house? guest: i would take a look at it . we in congress should put more
of a role and authority over this and go forward, but 232 national security concerns are not something we can take lightly. i appreciate what the president is saying. if you do not have a strong manufacturing base, if you don't have supply chains that can give you rare earth materials like aluminum and steel, it puts you in a very dangerous position from a national security perspective. that is why we can rely on trading partners, but my mom also taught me many years ago that you can rely on your friends and family, but you also have to stand on your own two feet by yourself. that is something i think we're trying to achieve through this process. host: but is go to sumter, south carolina, john, on the line. caller: that morning. i'm a little confused here, sir. you keep talking in circles. give me time to expire myself. -- explain myself. that china is stealing our intellectual
property. nobody made these companies go to china. second of all, you're talking about the tax breaks. you gave these companies these tax breaks. they weren't paying taxes to start with. money.s thing is about when american companies make something in china and brings it back, you will charge of them tariffs? if you do, you already gave them the tax break. your talking in circles. host: let's give him a chance to respond. guest: i appreciate the criticism, but when i'm trying to say is when companies go to china, they're looking at obviously billions of people in the market place. --n american companies go but what china says is that you cannot access those customers unless you put your business over here. and by the way, we are not going
to allow you to have an ownership stake in the business. china -- and i'm being very here, stickier, bu simplistic but china makes them do it. at the end of the day, the business gets absorbed by those chinese influences and the next generation of technology coming out of those businesses gets absorbed. china says, well, we are done with the. we will take it from here and you make in business is no longer in existence. from my perspective, what we need to make sure is that when we do this with china, when we engage with our trading partners, they don't do that practice. what they do is recognize we are an american company and have a right to be in that american company in these marketplaces and they're giving us access to the market and then we compete with chinese partners, european partners, and the market is a level, even playing field on which we service that new consumer and those new customers
overseas. host: where are you on the immigration debate within the republican party on how to move forward on the deferred action childhood arrivals program? guest: we need to fix it, greta. we have been working on this. the group of us that i chair on the republican side with 24 republicans and 24 democrats were we get together and solve problems. it truly is a group that is about governing. we came to a solution that took care of the dreamers. it may read it up with border security, fixing the root cause of the problem of a dysfunctional porter if you would. -- border if you would. i did sign on the discharge petition. i said to her leadership that they were not pleased with that effort and they are still not pleased with that effort, but we should of dealt with this months ago. we should of deal have dealt wih this six month ago or a year ago. this discharge condition is
putting pressure on in the house to fix the problem. if this is successful on the discharge petition is a debate on the floor bill. i believe the house of representatives being the body of the people where you have that open and honest debate. let the people speak through us as representatives. host: you need 218 for the discharge petition to go to the floor. i understand three votes away, correct? guest: that's correct. host: are those three votes hard to get were easy to get? to our sidel refer as to republicans leading the charge for the people that they represent back home and they deserve a lot of credit for forcing this issue in the house to come to a head. i believe those votes are there. there's a tremendous amount of pressure on those remaining two individuals. they are getting a tremendous amount of pushback in order to not sign that discharge petition. we are working within the family. we are working within the republican caucus.
that would be a better outcome than the discharge petition because we are putting forth the republicans position of the house and the senate will have to do with it. host: once the discharge to titian go to the floor, what happens next? guest: you would have four bills that the discharge petition essentially says to bring those four bills up. there will be a vote and debate on each one of them. the one with the highest number majority to the approve any legislation in the house, but the one with the highest vote up of 218 would be the position of the house at the end of the day. you have some very liberal proposals in that floor. you have some very conservative proposals in that four. you have some kind of compromise position. my hope is that compromise position sees his way to the finish line and maybe we can do that without the discharge petition. we would not be in that
position if that discharge titian had been in the position in this. host: do believe it's a pathway to citizenship for daca participants? guest: listening to the folks is something i care deeply about. these are children that we are talking about, children brought to america through no fault of their own. these are parents who broke the law and they are coming along with us. these are young kids at the time. those kids have a pathway to citizenship. those parents, they have to pay a penalty. i talked to so many an illegal immigrants and what i say is i'm giving a path to your child, but you, you will have that path to citizenship. the parents will say that is why came to america. i'm more than willing to accept that penalty so my child can have the american dream. we would take care of it in a way that will allow us to fix the border.
you want to talk about a wall or a physical structure. whatever is necessary to fix the border is what i support. what you then have is a functioning border. if you talk to our seasonal workers in particular, they are like we just want to come here, go back to our family, and not have to go through that terrible situation of smuggling across the border to begin with. host: there's a domestic issue i want to ask you about. you introduced a bill that would wave attacks on wealthy college endowments. if they spend 25% of investment earnings, reducing college costs to those in need. explain how that would work and do you have traction? guest: we've been working on this for two years and we finalize the legislation and drop it two weeks ago. what this legislation is focusing on is saying to the universities and colleges across the country and the wealthy colleges, and tax reform we put a 1.4% tax on these tax-free accounts that people give to universities called endowments. billions of dollars of money are sitting in these ar
endowments. i'm saying we will forgo that tax so long as the money that is coming off that endowment, the interest and investment return, portions of that go to working families, the people over the cliff that are told there is no financial aid for you because you're making too much money. you're making $100,000 a year. back in ourices backyard, the university just raised its tuition to $74,000 a year. i don't know how making $100,000 for a family of four that they can make it from one of their children to go to school each year. we are saying give relief to those families. give the money to those families and give it to those children. we are requiring all the universities and colleges to say because we gave you this tax-free status and not-for-profit status, you will have to start telling the american people where you spend your money. we need more transparency on where these dollars are going. costave to adopt the
containment policy in black and white by your poor to say this is how we are going to get costs going down or not rising faster than inflation. then we can hold those universities and colleges to that accountability plan. that is what this bill is all about and i'm taking on this issue because when you have kids coming up with $200,000 worth of student debt, they can't survive. we are taking away opportunities from them and that's wrong. host: let's go to steve in michigan, independent. caller: hi. host: go ahead with your question, steve. caller: it's not a question. it's a statement. he was speaking earlier about fixing social security and medicare. there's really only one fix for it -- to go ahead and replace the stolen trust fund money. what was it, $2 trillion or $3 trillion, taken by these politicians and spent elsewhere? a would be able to get paid
decent social security check instead of the measly few dollars they give you now. if that happened in the public sector were $2 trillion or $3 trillion was taken from a trust fund, we would all be up on a rico act and put in prison. host: let's get a response. guest: i agree with you. at the end of the day, what you have to recognize is -- and this is where the $2 trillion or was trillion dollars borrowed from the funds and they did not put up enough obligations were they do not have to pay it back is completely wrong. what you are referring to is money where they were sitting with a tremendous amount -- of a surplus where they had cash on hand. where are you going to put your money to invest in it? the overwhelming answer by anybody in the financial world was say you invest in the u.s. government. we borrowed from ourselves because we are the safest bet
that pays back that that we nee debt. is a bigger structural problem than honoring those obligations. that's why the national debt is so important to this conversation. if we can't meet that obligation, social security is part of that obligation. that is worse for all these programs and the government itself. host: i want to get your reaction to breaking news. the associated press saying that the president is calling for organizationsfrom and crimea be reinstated. vladimir putin has reached out to austria to correlate a summit -- coordinate a summit could do you think those are good ideas? guest: obviously i'm not a big fan of russia's aggression and what they have done historically over the years. we will have to take a closer look at that. i will say that sometimes when you're dealing with countries
that engage in some bad practices, they still have an interest that may be relevant to what we need to do to be a safe and secure world. i think of syria. russia has a tremendous amount of influence in that area of the world. if there is a way to make sure that russia does not continue to engage in this aggressive overreach and very irresponsible manner and we can still have a relationship with them to use orir leverage to settle stabilize some of these areas, i'm open to that. i will take a closer look at this. my initial reaction is very cautiously hesitant to be supportive. host: congressman tom reed, thank you for the conversation this morning. when we come back, we will talk with democratic caucus and ted lieu on the upcoming g-7 summit and north korean meetings.
we will be right back. ♪ >> this weekend on c-span, saturday at 10:00 a.m. eastern, former can rich analytica ceo alexander nix testifies on the misuse of data and privacy concerns. sunday at 1030 a.m., senate congress subcommittee hearing on the sexual abuse of olympic and amateur athletes. on book tv on c-span2 saturday at 7:00 p.m. eastern, former president bill clinton and author james patterson discussed their collaboration in writing "the president is missing."
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c-span.org or listen using the free c-span radio app. announcer: "washington journal" continues. host: and we are back. at our table is congressman ted lieu. he sits on the judiciary committee as well as foreign affairs. here to talk about the president's trips abroad. he actually is a board marine one and landing at joint injuries air force base -- join andrews air force base. he is there leaving canada early to go off to singapore. let us start with the g7 and the reaction from our allies to his moves on tariffs and trade. what do you think? guest: thank you, greta, for that question. like health care, trade is complicated, but what the president is going to find out is that these countries are going to push back unlike the republican-controlled congress. they are not going to just fall down and not do anything. they are going to hit back.
countries such as mexico have already imposed tariffs on pork, bourbon, and motorcycles. it will create problems for the emerson people. -- for the mac and people. -- for the american people. host: tom reed said he is for disrupting vehement -- the status quo and what we have done for years on trade hasn't worked. there may be short-term ramifications, but the long-term game is to the advantage of the americans. guest: if you look at history, that's actually not what happens. last time america tried it, it made the great depression much worse. what is going to happen is that these other countries, some of example, china for they can tolerate pain much better than americans can. they will hold out. tariffsy impose these on agriculture, it will cause farmers to go out of business. china can sustain that. they have a very different economy. it is centralized and they have huge reserves.
they can tolerate that pain and americans will not be able to do that. host: why not? wear will americans feel the pain? guest: farmers will. starting to lever tariffs on agriculture products, it will cause farmers in a lot of pain. in china, they can subsidize industries in a way that the u.s. cannot and does not. ownsina, the government most of not all those companies. china can only tolerate pain, but they have much more reserves than the u.s. does. host: what about the diplomatic fallout? you have seen emmanuel macron and the canadian prime minister, just and, respond to the president yesterday. they are saying that is essentially could be the g six plus one. if i was canada, i would be particularly upset. if you are under the office of trade representatives, on the
website, it says the united states has an $8.4 billion trade surplus with canada. the president just make stuff up. he cannot say there is a trade deficit in canada where in fact there is not. we actually have a trade surplus. i can see why our allies at the g7 are very upset at the president right now. host: what do you think the president should do now as he makes his way to canada? guest: i think it's fine to negotiate with other countries on trade to try to take certain industries and make it better, but to just start imposing start taking these very extreme actions, that is not the best way to get a deal. host: how should congress react? guest: you see bipartisan support now for legislation that would rein in the president's ability to do this. it's more than just trade. when you start defending our allies, the next time the united states needs help, whether it's on iran or north korea or another area in the world, much
less likely are the allies going to come help us. host: as you sit on the foreign affairs committee, where does the united states need help? guest: sure. for north korean sanctions to work, you need the whole world to really buy into it and help the united states and imposing these sanctions. i voted for the strongest u.s. actions ever on north korea. for that to be effective, you need other countries, including those in the g7 and china and mexico and others, to also put in the same sanctions. if we start defending our allies and other countries, it's much less likely they will listen to the united states and the fixed -- and the futures. host: i want to have you respond to the president moments ago as he left the white house ahead of the g-7 summit and the meeting in singapore with the north korean leader. here's what he had to say. [video clip] >> it doesn't matter what you call that. it used to be the g-8 because russia was and it.
now russia is not in it. now i love our country. i have been russia's worst nightmare. is hillary got in, i think putin is going i wish hillary would have won. wire we having a meeting without russia not being in the meeting? i would recommend and it's up to them, but russia should be in the meeting. they should be a part of it. whether you like it or not, and may not be politically correct, but we have a world to run. at the g7, which used to be the g-8, they threw russia out. they should let russia come back in because we should have russia at the negotiating table. congressman? guest: the president of the united states is lying. he has been extremely kind to russia. last year congress passed
sections on russia that trump has to not limited in its entirety -- implemented in its entirety. investigatedmittee the downing of the malaysian airline are concluded in the report that it was down by a russian grenade missile from the russian brigade. that was basically mass murder caused by the kremlin. in 2016, russia launched a massive cyber attack and influence the campaign to affect american democracy. there is no way russia should be reinstated and the president of the united states should not be saying those words at this time. host: should the president meet with vladimir putin as the russian leader has proposed in austria? guest: i've no problem with the president of the united states meeting who he wants to. it's what happens at those meetings that's important. i do support the president meeting with whoever he thinks he should meet to make a mark a better. -- make america better. host: including kim jong-un?
we heard from viewers who say he should not be meeting with him. guest: it's very clear to me the united states has no good military options in north korea. i fully support diplomacy. i support the summit. i support the meeting with the leader of north korea. i hope the meeting goes well. host: what are your concerns? guest: my concerns are the president of the united states has admitted he has not prepared very much for the summit. we are dealing with another country with nuclear weapons and your negotiating on something as important as nuclear weapons, you better know your fax. cts. my hope is by june 12 the president of the red states -- the united states knows his facts. host: the president saying this is just the beginning of it and it will require more than just one meeting. we will go to keep in fargo, north dakota. you are on the air with the cognition. congressman. caller: it's a little off from what you guys are talking about, but with our president wanting
yet weup that wall and told gorbachev over in russia to when ronald wall , if you canresident put up a wall, you can dig under a wall. it's not going to do any good. host: congressman? guest: thank you for that question. you are absolutely correct. republican members of congress along the border of the united states have come out and opposed the wall. one of them in texas actually said the wall was one of the most inefficient systems you can put in because it's so easy to overcome any wall. in addition, it's extremely expensive. that is why the president of united states keeps making this misleading statement that mexico is going to pay for it. i've got a newsflash for you.
mexico is not paying for that will. the american taxpayer will be paying for if they authorize it. they all realize it's pretty stupid to spend all this money on this wall. we should also be talking about the separation of children from parents at the border. whether you are republican or democrat or independent, that should horrify you. that is why i sent a letter along with other democrats in the judiciary committee asking for hearing to have administration officials come and explain why we are separating toddlers and children from their parents. host: let us hear from mary in fort myers, florida. caller: thank you for taking my call. bit tong back a little the previous person. i would like to know why social security and medicare are a trust fund. why was this not made a dedicated fund so neither side could touch it and
misappropriate or what i call steel the money? that could have been done. this is both sides are guilty because they keep taking out of it. this is not right. we should be able to get reimbursed for that. -- ander question i have you are not a republican, but the previous gentleman -- i wanted definition of what it means to make america great again. what is the specific definition? what entails that? because i think it's just a catchphrase. it's nothing but basic psychology. if you keep repeating it, it becomes truthful, but nobody really knows what that means. thank you very much. guest: thank you, mary. first of all, i've been to fort myers many times. it's a good for place and you
live in a wonderful location. in terms of social security and medicare, i agree with you. not only should we not cut those two critical programs, but we need to expand and also make the funding much better for social security and medicare. social security does work differently. it is primarily paid for by payroll taxes. in terms of what we have already done with this republican tax law that went into effect, it is putting great pressure on to now cut social security and medicare because the revenues coming in are not going to pay for those tax cuts of which 83% go to the top 1%. that is what we are trying to fight for to make sure we don't have this massive deficit and debt and to not have that pressure causes to programs to go under. that is why i oppose that republican tax law and hopefully we can fix it so we don't put pressure to cut social security and medicare. host: we will go to jack in providence, rhode island, democrat. caller: hello?
can you hear me? host: you are on the air. caller: ok, i would like to take issue with commerce and ted lieu -- congressman lieu on this north korean situation. if you heard secretary of state pompeo, he indicated yesterday that north korea is going to have to denuclearize its arsenal. it's going to have to be verified. once that process is going on, they basically can't turn back. now donald trump -- and you know this, mr. lieu. you are smart. i watched you. he told lindsey graham that he is going to solve this problem "one way or another" by the year 2020, his first time.
its meaning that they agree to denuclearize. my wife happens to be chinese, too. my ancestry is german. secondly, if they don't, you know as well as i do -- you are a smart guy. ronald reagan dealt with the soviet union. he took care of them. host: hurt your point. let us have the congressman response. d. guest: any nuclear deal will take a number of years to implement. the president said the iran deal did not meet his standards. i expect any deal he negotiates with north korea would be better than the iran deal. that means very intrusive inspections. that means verification. that means denuclearization. we will see if that happens. you have to start talking. you need to have a first step.
that is why i support the summit. we need to have diplomacy be centerstage. again the united states has exactly zero good military options. host: according to "usa today," saidong-un's spokesperson it is not interested in giving up its nuclear program without a corresponding change in the u.s. nuclear posture. what does that mean? guest: north korea would want the united states to withdraw our forces in south korea or reduce them. at this point in time, that's a bad idea. we need to see what north korea is actually going to do before we even consider for structure changes or even the lifting of sanctions. we will need concrete, verifiable actions by north korea for congress will act in any way to lift sanctions or approve troop reductions. host: let's go to jim, democrat. you are on the air. caller: good morning. congressman, quick question.
how can we ever have balanced trade with china when factory workers make $80 a month? how many cadillacs are they going to buy? as far as north korea, a lot of hype about ballistic missiles. if they wanted to actually attacked the u.s., put a new in a container and i'm sorry to say, but san francisco looks like a likely target. they can always go up the mississippi. good day, sir. guest: thank you for your two questions. i will answer the second one first. you are correct. it is possible to proliferate nuclear weapons that don't rely on sticking them out of a ballistic missile and launching it. that is something our intelligence agencies and the department of defense has been very aware of. the have different programs and countermeasures to prevent that from happening. that is one reason again why i support this summit.
we want to have not just north korea get rid of its ballistic missiles but also to denuclearize so they cannot sell the nuclear weapons or sell parts of the nuclear weapons to terrorist organizations or other countries. in terms of trade with china, i have no problem with the president of the united states trying to negotiate better trade deals with any country that he wants. what i have a problem with is going to the extreme right now of just imposing terrorist on a bunch of countries. that causes a reaction of these countries to immediately impose tariffs back on the united states. adapting ourrt economy, hurting our farmers and industries p it is much better to sit down and work these things out without going to the nuclear option first. host: james in illinois, republican. caller: good morning. i'm 80 years old and i've seen a lot of presidents and i've never seen anything like this. i think america is great. the judiciary
committee. i'm wondering when we are going to come up with some impeachment of this president. he surely violated the oath of office by attacking the other branches of government and violated the constitution. i realize that mcconnell wants to pack the courts before he does anything. are you putting pressure on your other members to get some impeachment going of this president? guest: thank you for that question. view is the impeachment power war the power to declare and congress is one of the gravest and most awesome response abilities congress has and it should never be our first option. it should always be our last option. we need to see what the molar investigation is going to reveal at the end of the investigation and then we can make a decision. it might make it very easy for congress to make a decision or not. we need to wait for all the facts to come in and we will see what happens.
host: the president before leaving for the g-7 summit, according to cnn, repeated what he said on twitter that he has absolute right to pardon himself. i would love for the president of the united states to try to pardon himself because i think at that point even his supporters in congress who are republicans would conclude the president thi is super guilty and would start impeachment proceedings. host: why based on that? guest: you would not pardon yourself if you were not guilty. simple as that. host: let us go to mike, independent. caller: good morning. i don't understand why can't we compare the president to what is being done to america. -- diplomatically. he has had bankruptcies.
the bank came up and refused to give him loans. he is doing the same to our allies. he is distancing himself from them and now the allies will come together and gang up against this country. and then he will go to the enemies and befriend the enemies. it is time that congress bring him up. country into this some dangerous positions. people have to know that this man is incompetent. he is not running the country the way previous presidents have been running this country. host: i'm going to have the congress and respond. do you agree or disagree? guest: with every passing day, the world becomes more interconnected. for america to go it alone and isolated ourselves is a really bad idea.
we try this many years ago and it did not work out. isolationism did not work out. when america goes it alone, we are weaker. we are stronger as a country when we work with our allies instead of offending our allies. i hope at some point the president of united states understands that. host: frank in california, democrat. caller: how are you doing? host: good morning. caller: i want to go off a little topic. lieuted to ask congressman a couple of questions. i'm a corrections officer out in california. we house detainees or inmates . the question i have is that we are having issues that detainees are coming off the border. i knew eventually that they were going to have to be placed somewhere. i work out at a california complex. we learned on monday that we were going to get 1000 detainees in our facility.
the main issue that we have is that when they come in off the streets, we don't have any information. congressmanis cognizan lieu that it's happening all over in the west. of looking at our safety institutions. is going to be a totally different mission. we are not getting any kind of -- there's no layout. all we know on monday is that we are getting inmates here in california and it will be happening through the prisons alter california. to asking congressman lieu help us or put us in contact so we can maybe get more staff. that is what we are asking for -- more stuff. we up and asking for the last couple of years and it's very important. thank you for your time and i appreciate it. host: congressman? guest: thank you for your
question. thank you for your service. we will look into the issue of additional staffing. let me tell you what is causing this problem. the trump administration made a change earlier this year. so horrific that the president of the united states won't even accept responsibly for it that ., that change caused children to be separated from their parents. we are going to charge everything person crossing the border even if they have a legitimate asylum claim. when he told you what happened during the obama and bush administrations -- let me tell you what happened during the obama ad pus and bush administration's. what they would do is processed the asylum claim, keep the children with their parents, and that seemed to be a good process.
when attorney general sessions reversed this and said we are going to prosecute everything of person come up with detention facilities even if they have legitimate claims, not only does it make no rational sense, but it causes a huge burden on detention facilities in which you work and other facilities. this was a policy done with no forethought and the resources. thank you for bringing that up. we will look into it. oregon.se is in the house is coming in early for their morning session so make a quick for the congressman. caller: this is rose from illinois. i want to make several statements because people are all over the place. there was one lady who said earlier to you that take down the wall for russia, but we are putting up a wall. that's crazy an insane talk. russia put a wall between one country to divided country. we are not dividing our country.
we are trying to united together and put the wall on the outside of the country to protect us. and that is the mission of the nine states government -- the united states government when it was instituted. 's to protect this entire country and many states that belong to it. i would like to know how obama took billions of dollars out of medicare and gave part of it to the california unions and wasted a lot of our medicare and our social security money and got away with it and used it as seed money for obamacare. same thing the federal government gave seed money to massachusetts to start their socialized medicine. you guys just want to put socialized medicine in without the effects of how it affects us a seniors. host: i have to leave it there. congressman? guest: thank you, rose, for your question.
it is factually not correct that obama did that. keep in mind that he was operating and dealing with a republican-controlled congress for the last six years of office. in terms of what you say socialized medicine, under the act, we are talking about private insurers. we are talking about making sure people who can't afford health care get access to health care. it is private insurers who are providing the health care. it is not socialized medicine. i served in the military. my health care -- that was socialized. they came from the military. the act is a system that works with private insurers. host: congressman ted lieu sits on the judiciary and foreign affairs committee. thank you for the conversation. guest: thank you. host: we believe it at that point because the house is about to gavel in here early on this friday morning further legislative session.