tv Washington Journal Rep. Ted Lieu CSPAN June 8, 2018 3:24pm-3:53pm EDT
we talked to the democratic congressman this morning on "washington journal." host: and . at our table is congressman ted lieu. he sits on the judiciary committee as well as foreign affairs. here to talk about the president's trips abroad. he actually is a board marine one and landing at joint injuries air force base -- join andrews air force base. he is there leaving canada early to go off to singapore. let us start with the g7 and the reaction from our allies to his moves on tariffs and trade. what do you think? guest: thank you, greta, for that question. like health care, trade is complicated, but what the president is going to find out is that these countries are going to push back unlike the republican-controlled congress. they are not going to just fall down and not do anything. they are going to hit back. countries such as mexico have
already imposed tariffs on pork, bourbon, and motorcycles. it will create problems for the emerson people. -- for the mac and people. -- for the american people. host: tom reed said he is for disrupting vehement -- the status quo and what we have done for years on trade hasn't worked. there may be short-term ramifications, but the long-term game is to the advantage of the americans. guest: if you look at history, that's actually not what happens. last time america tried it, it made the great depression much worse. what is going to happen is that these other countries, some of example, china for they can tolerate pain much better than americans can. they will hold out. tariffsy impose these on agriculture, it will cause farmers to go out of business. china can sustain that. they have a very different economy. it is centralized and they have huge reserves. they can tolerate that pain and
americans will not be able to do that. host: why not? wear will americans feel the pain? guest: farmers will. starting to lever tariffs on agriculture products, it will cause farmers in a lot of pain. in china, they can subsidize industries in a way that the u.s. cannot and does not. ownsina, the government most of not all those companies. china can only tolerate pain, but they have much more reserves than the u.s. does. host: what about the diplomatic fallout? you have seen emmanuel macron and the canadian prime minister, just and, respond to the president yesterday. they are saying that is essentially could be the g six plus one. if i was canada, i would be particularly upset. if you are under the office of trade representatives, on the
website, it says the united states has an $8.4 billion trade surplus with canada. the president just make stuff up. he cannot say there is a trade deficit in canada where in fact there is not. we actually have a trade surplus. i can see why our allies at the g7 are very upset at the president right now. host: what do you think the president should do now as he makes his way to canada? guest: i think it's fine to negotiate with other countries on trade to try to take certain industries and make it better, but to just start imposing start taking these very extreme actions, that is not the best way to get a deal. host: how should congress react? guest: you see bipartisan support now for legislation that would rein in the president's ability to do this. it's more than just trade. when you start defending our allies, the next time the united states needs help, whether it's on iran or north korea or another area in the world, much less likely are the allies going to come help us. host: as you sit on the foreign
affairs committee, where does the united states need help? guest: sure. for north korean sanctions to work, you need the whole world to really buy into it and help the united states and imposing these sanctions. i voted for the strongest u.s. actions ever on north korea. for that to be effective, you need other countries, including those in the g7 and china and mexico and others, to also put in the same sanctions. if we start defending our allies and other countries, it's much less likely they will listen to the united states and the fixed -- and the futures. host: i want to have you respond to the president moments ago as he left the white house ahead of the g-7 summit and the meeting in singapore with the north korean leader. here's what he had to say. [video clip] >> it doesn't matter what you call that. it used to be the g-8 because russia was and it. now russia is not in it. now i love our country.
i have been russia's worst nightmare. is hillary got in, i think putin is going i wish hillary would have won. wire we having a meeting without russia not being in the meeting? i would recommend and it's up to them, but russia should be in the meeting. they should be a part of it. whether you like it or not, and may not be politically correct, but we have a world to run. at the g7, which used to be the g-8, they threw russia out. they should let russia come back in because we should have russia at the negotiating table. congressman? guest: the president of the united states is lying. he has been extremely kind to russia. last year congress passed
sections on russia that trump has to not limited in its entirety -- implemented in its entirety. investigatedmittee the downing of the malaysian airline are concluded in the report that it was down by a russian grenade missile from the russian brigade. that was basically mass murder caused by the kremlin. in 2016, russia launched a massive cyber attack and influence the campaign to affect american democracy. there is no way russia should be reinstated and the president of the united states should not be saying those words at this time. host: should the president meet with vladimir putin as the russian leader has proposed in austria? guest: i've no problem with the president of the united states meeting who he wants to. it's what happens at those meetings that's important. i do support the president meeting with whoever he thinks he should meet to make a mark a better. -- make america better. host: including kim jong-un? we heard from viewers who say he
should not be meeting with him. guest: it's very clear to me the united states has no good military options in north korea. i fully support diplomacy. i support the summit. i support the meeting with the leader of north korea. i hope the meeting goes well. host: what are your concerns? guest: my concerns are the president of the united states has admitted he has not prepared very much for the summit. we are dealing with another country with nuclear weapons and your negotiating on something as important as nuclear weapons, you better know your fax. cts. my hope is by june 12 the president of the red states -- the united states knows his facts. host: the president saying this is just the beginning of it and it will require more than just one meeting. we will go to keep in fargo, north dakota. you are on the air with the cognition. congressman. caller: it's a little off from what you guys are talking about, but with our president wanting yet weup that wall and
told gorbachev over in russia to when ronald wall , if you canresident put up a wall, you can dig under a wall. it's not going to do any good. host: congressman? guest: thank you for that question. you are absolutely correct. republican members of congress along the border of the united states have come out and opposed the wall. one of them in texas actually said the wall was one of the most inefficient systems you can put in because it's so easy to overcome any wall. in addition, it's extremely expensive. that is why the president of united states keeps making this misleading statement that mexico is going to pay for it. i've got a newsflash for you.
mexico is not paying for that will. the american taxpayer will be paying for if they authorize it. they all realize it's pretty stupid to spend all this money on this wall. we should also be talking about the separation of children from parents at the border. whether you are republican or democrat or independent, that should horrify you. that is why i sent a letter along with other democrats in the judiciary committee asking for hearing to have administration officials come and explain why we are separating toddlers and children from their parents. host: let us hear from mary in fort myers, florida. caller: thank you for taking my call. bit tong back a little the previous person. i would like to know why social security and medicare are a trust fund. why was this not made a dedicated fund so neither side could touch it and
misappropriate or what i call steel the money? that could have been done. this is both sides are guilty because they keep taking out of it. this is not right. we should be able to get reimbursed for that. -- ander question i have you are not a republican, but the previous gentleman -- i wanted definition of what it means to make america great again. what is the specific definition? what entails that? because i think it's just a catchphrase. it's nothing but basic psychology. if you keep repeating it, it becomes truthful, but nobody really knows what that means. thank you very much. guest: thank you, mary. first of all, i've been to fort myers many times. it's a good for place and you live in a wonderful location.
in terms of social security and medicare, i agree with you. not only should we not cut those two critical programs, but we need to expand and also make the funding much better for social security and medicare. social security does work differently. it is primarily paid for by payroll taxes. in terms of what we have already done with this republican tax law that went into effect, it is putting great pressure on to now cut social security and medicare because the revenues coming in are not going to pay for those tax cuts of which 83% go to the top 1%. that is what we are trying to fight for to make sure we don't have this massive deficit and debt and to not have that pressure causes to programs to go under. that is why i oppose that republican tax law and hopefully we can fix it so we don't put pressure to cut social security and medicare. host: we will go to jack in providence, rhode island, democrat. caller: hello? can you hear me?
host: you are on the air. caller: ok, i would like to take issue with commerce and ted lieu -- congressman lieu on this north korean situation. if you heard secretary of state pompeo, he indicated yesterday that north korea is going to have to denuclearize its arsenal. it's going to have to be verified. once that process is going on, they basically can't turn back. now donald trump -- and you know this, mr. lieu. you are smart. i watched you. he told lindsey graham that he is going to solve this problem "one way or another" by the year 2020, his first time. its meaning that they
agree to denuclearize. my wife happens to be chinese, too. my ancestry is german. secondly, if they don't, you know as well as i do -- you are a smart guy. ronald reagan dealt with the soviet union. he took care of them. host: hurt your point. let us have the congressman response. d. guest: any nuclear deal will take a number of years to implement. the president said the iran deal did not meet his standards. i expect any deal he negotiates with north korea would be better than the iran deal. that means very intrusive inspections. that means verification. that means denuclearization. we will see if that happens. you have to start talking. you need to have a first step. that is why i support the summit. we need to have diplomacy be
centerstage. again the united states has exactly zero good military options. host: according to "usa today," saidong-un's spokesperson it is not interested in giving up its nuclear program without a corresponding change in the u.s. nuclear posture. what does that mean? guest: north korea would want the united states to withdraw our forces in south korea or reduce them. at this point in time, that's a bad idea. we need to see what north korea is actually going to do before we even consider for structure changes or even the lifting of sanctions. we will need concrete, verifiable actions by north korea for congress will act in any way to lift sanctions or approve troop reductions. host: let's go to jim, democrat. you are on the air. caller: good morning. congressman, quick question. how can we ever have balanced
trade with china when factory workers make $80 a month? how many cadillacs are they going to buy? as far as north korea, a lot of hype about ballistic missiles. if they wanted to actually attacked the u.s., put a new in a container and i'm sorry to say, but san francisco looks like a likely target. they can always go up the mississippi. good day, sir. guest: thank you for your two questions. i will answer the second one first. you are correct. it is possible to proliferate nuclear weapons that don't rely on sticking them out of a ballistic missile and launching it. that is something our intelligence agencies and the department of defense has been very aware of. the have different programs and countermeasures to prevent that from happening. that is one reason again why i support this summit. we want to have not just north
korea get rid of its ballistic missiles but also to denuclearize so they cannot sell the nuclear weapons or sell parts of the nuclear weapons to terrorist organizations or other countries. in terms of trade with china, i have no problem with the president of the united states trying to negotiate better trade deals with any country that he wants. what i have a problem with is going to the extreme right now of just imposing terrorist on a bunch of countries. that causes a reaction of these countries to immediately impose tariffs back on the united states. adapting ourrt economy, hurting our farmers and industries p it is much better to sit down and work these things out without going to the nuclear option first. host: james in illinois, republican. caller: good morning. i'm 80 years old and i've seen a lot of presidents and i've never seen anything like this. i think america is great. the judiciary committee.
i'm wondering when we are going to come up with some impeachment of this president. he surely violated the oath of office by attacking the other branches of government and violated the constitution. i realize that mcconnell wants to pack the courts before he does anything. are you putting pressure on your other members to get some impeachment going of this president? guest: thank you for that question. view is the impeachment power war the power to declare and congress is one of the gravest and most awesome response abilities congress has and it should never be our first option. it should always be our last option. we need to see what the molar investigation is going to reveal at the end of the investigation and then we can make a decision. it might make it very easy for congress to make a decision or not. we need to wait for all the facts to come in and we will see what happens. host: the president before
leaving for the g-7 summit, according to cnn, repeated what he said on twitter that he has absolute right to pardon himself. i would love for the president of the united states to try to pardon himself because i think at that point even his supporters in congress who are republicans would conclude the president thi is super guilty and would start impeachment proceedings. host: why based on that? guest: you would not pardon yourself if you were not guilty. simple as that. host: let us go to mike, independent. caller: good morning. i don't understand why can't we compare the president to what is being done to america. -- diplomatically. he has had bankruptcies.
the bank came up and refused to give him loans. he is doing the same to our allies. he is distancing himself from them and now the allies will come together and gang up against this country. and then he will go to the enemies and befriend the enemies. it is time that congress bring him up. country into this some dangerous positions. people have to know that this man is incompetent. he is not running the country the way previous presidents have been running this country. host: i'm going to have the congress and respond. do you agree or disagree? guest: with every passing day, the world becomes more interconnected. for america to go it alone and isolated ourselves is a really bad idea. we try this many years ago and it did not work out. isolationism did not work out.
when america goes it alone, we are weaker. we are stronger as a country when we work with our allies instead of offending our allies. i hope at some point the president of united states understands that. host: frank in california, democrat. caller: how are you doing? host: good morning. caller: i want to go off a little topic. lieuted to ask congressman a couple of questions. i'm a corrections officer out in california. we house detainees or inmates . the question i have is that we are having issues that detainees are coming off the border. i knew eventually that they were going to have to be placed somewhere. i work out at a california complex. we learned on monday that we were going to get 1000 detainees in our facility. the main issue that we have is that when they come in off the
streets, we don't have any information. congressmanis cognizan lieu that it's happening all over in the west. of looking at our safety institutions. is going to be a totally different mission. we are not getting any kind of -- there's no layout. all we know on monday is that we are getting inmates here in california and it will be happening through the prisons alter california. to asking congressman lieu help us or put us in contact so we can maybe get more staff. that is what we are asking for -- more stuff. we up and asking for the last couple of years and it's very important. thank you for your time and i appreciate it. host: congressman? guest: thank you for your question. thank you for your service.
we will look into the issue of additional staffing. let me tell you what is causing this problem. the trump administration made a change earlier this year. so horrific that the president of the united states won't even accept responsibly for it that ., that change caused children to be separated from their parents. we are going to charge everything person crossing the border even if they have a legitimate asylum claim. when he told you what happened during the obama and bush administrations -- let me tell you what happened during the obama ad pus and bush administration's. what they would do is processed the asylum claim, keep the children with their parents, and that seemed to be a good process. when attorney general sessions reversed this and said we are
going to prosecute everything of person come up with detention facilities even if they have legitimate claims, not only does it make no rational sense, but it causes a huge burden on detention facilities in which you work and other facilities. this was a policy done with no forethought and the resources. thank you for bringing that up. we will look into it. oregon.se is in the house is coming in early for their morning session so make a quick for the congressman. caller: this is rose from illinois. i want to make several statements because people are all over the place. there was one lady who said earlier to you that take down the wall for russia, but we are putting up a wall. that's crazy an insane talk. russia put a wall between one country to divided country. we are not dividing our country.
we are trying to united together and put the wall on the outside of the country to protect us. and that is the mission of the nine states government -- the united states government when it was instituted. 's to protect this entire country and many states that belong to it. i would like to know how obama took billions of dollars out of medicare and gave part of it to the california unions and wasted a lot of our medicare and our social security money and got away with it and used it as seed money for obamacare. same thing the federal government gave seed money to massachusetts to start their socialized medicine. you guys just want to put socialized medicine in without the effects of how it affects us a seniors. host: i have to leave it there. congressman? guest: thank you, rose, for your question. it is factually not correct that obama did that.
keep in mind that he was operating and dealing with a republican-controlled congress for the last six years of office. in terms of what you say socialized medicine, under the act, we are talking about private insurers. we are talking about making sure people who can't afford health care get access to health care. it is private insurers who are providing the health care. it is not socialized medicine. i served in the military. my health care -- that was socialized. they came from the military. the act is a system that works with private insurers. host: congressman ted lieu sits >> president trump is taking part in the g-7 summit at a quebec resort in canada. it's an informal gathering that meets every year. he's holding a series of group and one-on-one meetings,
including with canadian prime minister justin trudeau. we will have live coverage of his meeting with prime minister trudeau at 4:45 eastern on c-span. meeting with other countries, france, italy, germany, japan, britain. the european union also attends. tonight at 8:00, you can see the official welcome ceremony at the g-7 here on c-span. >> this weekend on c-span, today at 10:00 a.m. eastern, former cambridge an lit can c.e.o. alexander nicks testifies before -- nix testifies in london on the misuse of data and privacy concerns. sunday at 10 clock 30 a.m., a senate commerce committee hearing on the sexual abuse of olympic and amateur athletes.