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though it is one district court judge, does give it some degree of importance. other judges, should there be another vertical merger challenge, who are looking around to see what their article three judicial colleagues have done come a cannot miss this one because there is nothing else. >> watch the communicators monday night at 8:00 eastern on c-span two. this past week, the senate agriculture committee met to consider amendments to the 2018 farm bill. used toslation is reauthorize nutrition programs over a five-year span. the current ill under consideration would extend the supplemental nutrition assistance program known as snap and for a new safety net programs for farmers. it also includes a measure to legalize industrial hemp as an
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agricultural commodity. this is just under three hours. >> seeing a quorum, i called this meeting to order. i am now going to recognize senator grassley and he has a
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prior commitment for his three minutes of commentary. : thank you mr.y chairman. i have a fairly reserve statement. don't assume i don't have strong views on some things that might come up today. i thank chairman roberts, ranking member stavanagh in getting you all to this point putting together a bill of this size and complexity is no small task. this legislationill impact every citizen and nearly every acre of land in america. there are several pieces of this legislation that i like very much and support. the market axis and foreign market development programs being funded. they are important and they promote our products abroad. i think they are very sensible
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and much-needed reforms to the program that should help refocus it. in iowa, we had some landowners getting over $300 an acre. it was making it hard for young and beginning farmers to compete for land against the government. even well-established farmers had land taken away from them because it was enrolled in these crp's at lucrative rates. they were incensed about being out for knowing our national debt is i commend my colleague $20 trillion. from iowa for her leadership in this area. i would like to hear from other members about the adequacy of the program from the standpoints. whether we have enough incentive . that high yielding land would go
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in so we get more bang for our taxpayers dollars and it shouldn't be given consideration over other land. on crop insurance i'm happy to see we maintained a very strong program.he changeshat clarify in the crop insurance program for covered cap -- for covered crop termination shall not affect the insurability of subsequent crops. in iowa covered crops are becoming very popular. they help reduce runoff that hurts the environment. the commodity title of the program is similar to the last farm bill. that can improvements be made as a few crops have price triggers that are extremely high. when price triggers have a ten-year average to determine the price of that crop, it is
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hard to explain how that is a safely net and not simply a guaranteed payment turning out to be a ridiculous policy. i am happy that an amendment that i offered that encourages partnership is helping water and wastewater utilities to find innovative ways to clean the environment was included. instead of these utilities building expensive water treatment plants they can be given credit for programs at lower cost is something we should be concentrating on. the basedisappointed bill does not include common sense reforms that are offered on program eligibility.
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will also say that i am dismayed that we do not have a cbo score. things are hard for farmers right now and passg a fa bill will provide certainty to our farmers as chairman roberts has reminded me several times over the last week. thank you. i think the senator. i want to point out again -- i will tap the gavel if we exceed three minutes. we simply have to get the bill done. grassley: was i over three minutes? >> you were at about four minutes plus. but that is your batting average. colleagueselcome my today in today's business
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meeting where we will consider improvement act of 2018, the farm bill. the goal, the responsibility, the absolute requirement for this committee is to provide farmers, ranchers, growers, and everyone certainty and predictability. especially during these very difficult times. paramount toutely every other concern. i respect the long-held partnerships this committee has had with farm and commodity organizations. with all of the folks that have banded together to fight for better nutrition and abolish hunger with the research and conservation efforts. we could go down all 12 titles of the farm bill. still, our single overriding responsibility is to the men,
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women, and farm families in america who today are in difficult and too many in desperate times. it is not an exaggeration to say food and fiber's capability hang in the balance of what we are able to do today. let us begin and but us get this done. many of you have introduced legislation that address your priorities. the ranking member and i have ofed to address as many those priorities as possible in the draft and we have included 66 amendments as part of a manager's amendment for the committee to consider. we are engaged in this important effort together. we are continuing to craft a needsill that meets the of producers across our country, all regions, all caps, all of agriculture is struggling, not just one or two commodities.
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bill that works across our entire country and we must ensure that our voluntary conservation programs are keeping firmly and in operation while protecting our lands, forest, and other natural resources. we must focus on program integrity and common sense investments to strengthen our nutrition programs. to ensure the long-term success of those in need of assistance. and, and with trade policy uncertainty, we must provide certainty for our trade and research programs. population is a national security challenge. show me a country that cannot feed itself and i will show you a nation in chaos. and goodness knows we have enough chaos in the world today. moremeans we need to grow and raise more with fewer resources.
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that will take investments in research, new technology, lines of credit, and proper risk management. it takes a government priding the tools and then -- providing the tools and then getting out of the way of the producers. we must make tough choices and make tough choices with the scant resources we have. to those who say passing a farm bill in this environment is a daunting task, i say together that we can get this done. we must embrace the attitude of our producers. optimism and ingenuity. the farmer does not just plant a seed in the ground without the faith and optimism of harvesting
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a good crop. together we can, we must pass a bill that provides these same men and women the much-needed certainty and predictability they so deserve. i now turn to my colleague and partner in this process for her opening remarks. >> thank you very much. first of all i want to say it is a great pleasure to work with you as partners on this committee. say to our other partners, they may not have had a lot of sleep. we greatly appreciate their hard work. we made a commitment to deliver a bipartisan farm bill for our farmers, our families and our rural communities. we have stayed true to our word to support our diverse agricultural
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economy in the 16 million jobs it supports. importantrepresents improvements for michigan, kansas, and the states represented on this important committee and for every part of the country and the farm bill coalition. we have put aside our political differences and focused on listening to people who have a stake in the farm bill. rural leadersnd to conservationists and good advocates, we heard loud and clear that they need the certainty of a five-year farm bill. american farmers and ranchers especially need a reliable safety net to protect them from the risks they face every day. when a years -- when a years worth of work can be erased by a single day of bad weather, farmers rely on strong risk
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management tools. making improvements for our dairy farmers was one of my top priorities. and as for many members on my has been aknow, this passion for us and i appreciate all of us working together on this. secured the we have bipartisan budget act and again i to sathank you to senator leahy for his incredible leadership. farmplaced the protection and invested an additional 100 million dollars to improve affordability and flexibility. we faced a tight budget. but, we were able to work together to protect some of the most important partners of the farm bill and continue to expand the coalition engaged in our food and farm system.
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permanent funding for beginning farmers helped build the bench for the next generation of agriculture for years to calm. permanent mandatory funding for both international trade and investments in farmers markets and local food systems help producers sell their products both at home and abroad. cuts tol has no overall the conservation title which helps our farmers be more productive and protects our land and water. by focusing on innovative public-private partnerships, we will grow funding by leveraging an additional $1 billion in private investment to support locally led conservation. and i want to thank senator
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ernst for partnering with me. to conservation and restoration for our national forests are also included. supportshe farm bill farmers, it also supports families and community. towork to find common ground increase the integrity of food assistance. additionally, we made historic investments to support tribal communities. we also protected and expanded initiatives that create rural jobs and insured families can enjoy a high quality of life no matter where they live. one of the things sorely needed and i know we all agree is that rural communities need reliable, high speed internet. in my home state alone, there are nearly one million people in
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rural michigan kovac access. our bill includes new opportunities that will connect rural households, schools, businesses that need it most. job opportunities by continuing strong investments in bio-based manufacturing and we found ways to improve the health of rural families. new prioritized support for water infrastructure will address harmful contaminants in drinking water. contribute to combating the opioid epidemic that has devastated far too many small towns and families across the country. on every title, on every page, you can see that this truly is a farm bill that meets critical priorities across our country. again, i want to thank all of the members of the committee. each member of this committee has made important contributions and we thank everyone for that.
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brought valuable ideas to the table and you worked hard to make sure we can get here today. i again want to thank my great partner, senator roberts for all of the long hours and hard work we have done together to write the farm bill that make sense for our farmers, ranchers, rural communities and families. district chairman, let us then pass the farm bill. >> i thank the senator. i want to associate myself with her remarks with regards to staff. you are only as good as your staff and we have the best. that goes for everybody here, the committee members and their staff, having been a staffer for 14 years, i have a special feeling about that. but this was a daunting task. and they spent a lot of hours way into the evening early this morning, you know, still trying to put this together. sen. boozman:.
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: thank you mr. chairman. and right off the bat i want to thank you and the ranking member for their hard work over the last several months. y'all are great and work hard but your staffs are excellent, so we really approacheciate that. for crafting a truly bipartisan piece of legislation, especially when tough choices must be made. as we are all aware the farm communities are a much different place. net farm income is half of what it was then. farm bankruptcies are up 30% in the past two years. financing is becoming more expensive. income costs are rising. farmers across the income costs are ising and the trade outlet uncertain. now is not the time to be cutting the farm safety net program. we must provide a timely farm bill to provide
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certainty to the folks who feed and clothe the nation and the world for which we can be very proud. i was particularly pleased to see the chairman and ranking members maintained strong safety nets. this bill also improves program directed toward our veterans to become involved in agriculture. i was also pleased to see my amendments were included in the managers package. i want to acknowledge the partnership program is an excellent tool for bringing partnerships and additional nonfederal funding to the conservation effort. my home state, especially the rice producers, have benefitted from the rice partnership efforts of ducks inlimited, arkansas rise, and rcs. it has become significant and meaningful.
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however, i have concerns regarding the changes that will allow her to percent of the funding to be allocated as grants to these organizations. the program is delivered in this regard but i fear we are opening the door to conservation dollars being diverted to organization capacity building and supporting certain organization members rather than continuing to leverage private funding to the benefit of many producers in a given region. i constituents at home have also reached out with concerns regarding changes to the food aid pro eight provisions. i am afraid e cothat wd harm the long-term viability of them by turning them cash-based rather than commodity-based. as the chairman has reiterated through this process, we must provide our farmers and ranchers with certain predictability. we must ensure it reaches all
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farmers and that we do not attack or cut down one region to prop up another. again, i look forward to getting this thing passed and thanks again to y'all and your staffs. >> thank you, senator. senator leahy. senator leahy: thank you. we have worked together in a bipartisan way to draft this 2018 farm bill. it's actually an example of what the senate could achieve when we cast aside rank and rhetoric and focus on the real challenges we face. and this committee has a long and well deserved reputation for that. mr. chairman i think of your , predecessor, a dear friend of both of us, bob dole, when he was here. i remember working closely with hubert humphrey. arehave two people that
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poles apart philosophically. and they would work together and come up with good agriculture legislation. you have done the same and the senator has. i know in our state, vermont farmers and families rely on the support and guidance of the farm bill so our farms, both large and small and -- large and small are productive. that their children are noris. that the air, land, and water are protected. and this bill makes important improvements in all of these. rural communities across vermont and every corner of america, represented every single state here would directly benefit from this bill. that's where we set our priorities, just like our spending bills. farmers everywhere face increasingly difficult times. vermont is no exception. our dairy farm, the backbone of many of our communities faced significant challenges in recent years. it is a very hard time for them. i see people working 365 days a
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year. enormous hours. buried difficult work. and i see the depth of the despair of many people who have been many generations as the back loan of our community. truly the best of her mom. so, this bill is another opportunity to provide the support and security that dairy farmers deserve. with the higher levels of risk coverageunder the risk program. also, providing nutritional support for our citizens as well as reduce hunger worldwide. continue programs such as mcgovern dole. done inke what has been the organic industry. when i first wrote that bill when i was chairman of the committee, none of us would imagine it would turn into a $50 billion industry.
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so, it is a good bill. a bipartisan bill. i will put my whole statement in the record but mr. chairman, one of the two committees i so enjoy serving on -- this one and appropriations -- because republicans and democrats work together in the way the senate should and has in the past and can work so i thank you. >> i think the senator from vermont. senator? >> thank you, mr. chairman and ranking member. thank you to you both and your staff members. we drafted the bipartisan bill we have been earmarking today. unlike the last three bills that i have been involved with as a member, today, we are writing a farm bill during an extended economic downturn. and the aggie -- and the
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agricultural community -- the future is clouded by the uncertain economic conditions that we are facing today. past 14 months, i have introduced 11 marker bills, some with members of the other side of the aisle that i believe offers sound policy, some to improveanagement flexibility for use of land enrolled in crp and other conservation easements. along with senators brown and grassley, we offered a bill that equitably distribute commodity program payments across all regions of the united states and across all commodities by adjusting reference prices that exceed 100% of the market price average for those crops. more than 77% of all agricultural acres in the united states are enrolled in our -- in
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arc.-- in it not only provides price protection but also provides production from loss. time to make the necessary adjustments and get them scored by the cbo. savings good policy and in programs are often unpopular. and that is why many much-needed changes are not made. i feel we could it made some unpopular decisions in this bill that would have resulted in better policy. are those who chose to put those changes off for a better -- for another day.
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the conservation title is critically important to my home state of south dakotd several proposes that would improve the management. they have been included in the chairman's mark and management package which i appreciate. in the end, we have a bill that will help address the challenges of the agricultural economy and i look forward to its consideration. thank you. >> senator gillibrand. gillibrand: i did not prepare an opening statement but i would just like to briefly summarize the amendments i hope we get to talk about today. one is to help dairy farmers. on a billrked hard because in new york state today, our dairy farmers are noted only living on poverty wages but many are going out of business and -- and committing suicide. helping the dairy farmers is
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when a my highest priorities the cause giving relief to them now is crucial. when a dairy farmer goes out of business, the land is sold. it is developed. it is gone forever. we have talked about production of food as a national security priority. in fact, if you relegate production of certain foods to one part of this day, when part of the country, any problem, whether it is a drought in california, nuclear fallout japan, literally whesome food in that part ofce the country. we want to make sure dairy stays in places like california, wisconsin, new york, and vermont. thank you, amy, for working so hard on that bill. another amendment i want to pull up is about --. normally, if they like a certain chemical, they use it for wheat
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killing or bug killing. we generally side with the producers. but there are a small class of chemicals that killed these -- kill brees. don't think we will get to vote on that today but we might be if the colored up on the floor. i just want to highlight it for you to inform yourselves that just listening to producers and not knowing the science behind what could change whether we could produce crops in this country is really important to me. and the snap provisions are super important for new york state. we have a lot of family struggling to just feed their kids. and one of my amendments is to make it possible. if you are a full-time caregiver, if you have a special needs child at home, an elderly parent, you can be eligible for food stamps. so i want to talk about that in
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this committee long-term. and then last, a world jobs and investment bill. this is a bill that the chairman and the ranking member have been working with me on. it is supported by all of the advocacy groups that cared deeply about agriculture in this country. it is a make sense bill we could use to provide the future manager's amendment. if i'm not here to talk about that, michael would be to offer and withdrawal so we could work on it because there is no opposition to that bill. it is a common sense bill to help create jobs in world america. thank you. >> we thank you. .enator hyde smith senator highsmith: thank you, mr. chairman. i also would like to thank you and the ranking member for working so hard and being so open to everyone on this
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committee and certainly the staff that has put so many hours into this. i commend you for putting together a strong bipartisan bill. and more importantly a bill which see to meet the specific needs of all the farmers, ranchers, and producers in all the regions of our country. the fact that you are able to a countless that in a bill that is estimated to actually save $60 million over the next 10 years is very impressive. i'm grateful for your commitment to your responsibility of being good stewards of taxpayer dollars. the broad array will affect the overall quality of life for family such as mine across the united states and many mississippians. we employ nearly 30% of the workforce directly or indirectly. i am confident that mississippi's 36,000 farms, 11 million acres of farmland and 20 million acres of forest land will be well served by the legislation from this committee today.
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the authorizing of the price loss coverage program in the ammodity title will ensure have adequate protection when market prices are low and maintaining the current level support structure will help our larger producers remain in business when times can get very tough. working lands program will allow farmers to continue to produce on the highly productive lands while minimizing the easement programs which will allow the landowners to set aside less productive land for water quality improvements. with respect to the nutrition title, i'm encouraged that annual spending over the life of the bill is estimated to be below the2 billion 2014 farm bill levels. i'm also pleased that this farm bill seeks to improve the --plemental assistant assistance program to increase program integrity and focuses on working requirements for snap beneficiaries. as we move forward, i hope the committee will seek to further reform and improve the nutrition
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title to ensure our food assistance program providing help for those in need. but will also providpath toward employment and self sustainability. in closing, mr. chairman, i would like to thank you in your members-- you and the of the staff for including my amendments in the manager's package of amendments. i look forward to continue working with you on this farm bill process. we thank you. senator brown. senator brown: thank you, mr. chairman and thank you for the extraordinary work you did and that senator stabenow did. i want to thank the staff on both sides, especially the committee staff and the work that you did and john mccracken in my office. my associate, as senator
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hyde-smith just said, i don't think everyone got everything we wanted but we're taking steps investing in local foods and especially crops, maintaining a strong safety net, reducing hundredor in our country. i heam farmers about their desire for conservation programs to reduce runoff and soil health and were easier to use. where spending goes and how it used is essential to meeting our natural resources to make sure were getting a good return on investments. this gets us a step closer to achieving goals. i want to thank senators ernst and grassley and casey and donnelly for their work on
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these provisions. i also want to note that for the first time we've provided baseline funding for usda programs to promote local food production and help small growers increase their revenues and predictability into the future. senator collins and i worked on this bill, the newmarket assistance program will help strengthen this food sector and i appreciate the senators work. the incentive program has proved so successful including in ohio since its creation in the 2014 farm bill. with this provision snap recipients will be up to increase their purchasing power when they buy fresh foods and vegetable. the program has been good for families and local farmers who now have new customers. i expect another pilot project included in this bill will soon be a nationwide model for reducing hospital and doctor visits as out at risk patients have greater access to fruits
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and vegetables and healthier diets. the committee accepted my amendment to create three new centers of excellence and i appreciate the commitment from the chair and ranking member to work with me on brown amendment to which deals with equity issues affecting the 1890 system. some provisions that i introduced with senator thune are included in the bill. we want to ensure their good deal for american taxpayers and especially thank the senators for their work on this. there are dozens of other provisions in this bill that are good for ohio farmers and small towns, ensuring the integrity of organic crops, investing in wastewater programs, fighting the opioid epidemic an and a bill that's good for families and farmers and taxpayers, i'm committed to working with my colleagues. >> thank you. >> thank you. thank you german robinson for
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your work on the bipartisan package. i recognize this was not an easy task and i commend your efforts and hard work by your staff. agriculture is the backbone of nebraska's economy. it's a big part of my own life. in fact, one of every four jobs in nebraska is directly tied to agriculture. that's why i am thankful to represent nebraska on this committee as we craft such an important piece of legislation. as each of us around this table is fully aware, there is a lot of anxiety in farm country. with current net farm income down by over 50% compared to five years ago and uncertainty surrounding international trade and biofuel policy, farmers and ranchers are feeling scared and their feeling vulnerable. they're looking to us, to this committee to provide the certainty and predictability they need to support their
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families and if yo feed the world. since my first day in congress, i worked with my colleagues to promote commonsense policies that enable our egg producers to prosper. this farm bill process gives us the opportunity to accomplish this mission. traveling around my home state , nebraskans have told me they are looking for strong farm safety net that uphold the integrity of the crop insurance program. this important program works in my state and i appreciate that the bill before us continues it. i also appreciate the committee for recognizing the importance of our trade promotion program. our farmers and our ranchers have proven they can and will aggressively pursue global markets, consolidating the four primary programs under title iii will eliminate the anxiety of expiring baselines, providing producers with more
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leverage as they expand into new market. it's imperative we give the farmers and ranchers the tools and technology that enable them to maintain their competitive advantage. this package builds off congress existing package to explant broadband to the most underserved and rural areas by prioritizing projects to provide broadband to the most rural areas to boost connectivity assisting in bringing the next generation back to the farm and enhancing productivity. providing the farmers and ranchers with the tools and certainly they need to feed our nation into feed the world. it's important to me that we
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remember these hard-working men and women. i look forward to working with my colleagues to improve the bill today and as it moves forward in the legislative process. thank you. >> i think senator smith. >> thank you very much for all of your work on this incredibly good bipartisan farm bill before us today. i also want to add my thanks to everyone for all the work has been put in an time to come together. when i first came to the senate a few months ago, i have to say on this committee and i immediately went to put together a farm bill working group in the home state of minnesota so i could hear from farmers and ranchers and nutrition experts and rural leaders on what ought to be included on this farm bill.
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that working group provided a lot of greui to me and my staff all the way through this process. i want to thank them for their help. several of you have noted this farm bill touches the lives of every american and every minnesotan and is so important to our state's economy. this bill will provide important stability and predict ability to minnesota farmers and ranchers and rural communities but also sustaining tens of thousands of minnesota jobs. i'm very thankful that this bill includes many of the proposals that i have been working to get included in this bill for minnesotans. that includes maintaining the sugar program for minnesota's sugarbeet farmers and also improving the dairy safety net. i know my colleague have worked very hard on this. the bill also includes and establishes a new national animal disease preparedness response and recovery program. we know from minnesota, having lived to the avian flu how important this is and i want to thank the senator for her
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work on this. the bill makes important improvements to conservation programs to help make sure our farmers have the opportunity to start conservation efforts and keep those going into the future. i am very happy that the bill provides also help for beginning farmers and traditionally disadvantaged farmers in our state o minnesota that means native american farmers and latino farmers and veteran farmers to make sure partners from diverse backgrounds have an ability to access usda services. i want to thank senator heitkamp and senator van hollen for helping. as a ranking member of the rule development subcommittee, i'm very happy this bill include strong energy title that strengthens successful energy programs from the last farm bill like the role energy for america program. colleague, senator, char has als provided great leadership along with senator ernst and i'm very happy to see that included.
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i would also just like to note chairman roberts, i'm very happy for the inclusion of our rule health liaison and the managers package. i worked on that with senator rounds and also senator jones. this will really encourage the collaboration we know we need between usda and health and human services to address the specific healthcare needs of rural communities. i'm very happy to see that included. thank you again chair roberts and ranking member and i look forward all look forward to continuing work on this bill. with your permission i would like to recognize our leader, senator mcconnell for his three minutes and 21 seconds left bac back. >> thank you, mr. chairman. ranking member, i'm happy to be here this morning. senator, could i just say one thing.
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thank you for commitment not only to be here, but your commitment to everyone and also with regards to senator schumer. both leaders have committed that once we finish our business here we can finish our business on the floor of the united states senate. thank you. >> let me mention, thank you, mr. chairman, we will turn to the farm bill before the fourth of july. i am hopeful that the house will get to theirs. it will probably look a little different from ours but i'm hoping they will get to theirs shortly which will give us a chance to get in and make them law which is what i know we are all potentially interested in doing. i want to thank both of you for the process that has led us to today. in my home state of kentucky, our agricultural heritage is a central part of our economy and our pride from poultry and beef and soybean and tobacco
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was 75000 plus farms in the bluegrass providing jobs in a great way of life for a lot of people i represent. i'm proud to support this bill is for us today. it will provide much-needed certainty for our farmers. one way it does so is by protecting crop insurance, and protecting them from natural disaster that could wipe out an entire operation. the legislation also provides important reform to support kentucky's 12 million acres of forest land and their contributions to our state economy. it would boost rule communities by expanding access to high-speed internet, embedding the opioid crisis and investing in water if a structure projects. by any measure this is a good bill will come and proposal to help families and communities. i particularly want to thank the chairman and ranking member for including my help forming act in this bill. there's a lot of supporters around this table.
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i think it's time we took this step. i think everyone has figured it out, this is not the other plants. they had a little difficulty four years ago and putting the pallet project in the bill to explain its people that thi is a totally different plants. i know there are farming communities all over the country who are interested in this. mine are particularly interested in it and the reason for that is as all of you know our number one cash crop used to be something that is really not good for you, tobacco. that has declined significantly as it should, given the public health concerns. younger farmers in our state are particularly interested in going in this direction. i'm very excited about what you've done and a lot of
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people are extremely enthusiastic about the possibilities. i don't know from a perspective whether this will ever be as big as tobacco was. just to give you an idea how pervasive tobacco was, when i came to the senate we had a quota program and you fully remember it's a little bit like something out of moscow in the early 1920s, but anyway, they assigned quotas to the farm and we had at least some tobacco in 119 of a hundred 20 counties but it was the only thing you could grow profitably that was legal. holler is an area between two tall mountains. it was literally everywhere. for obvious reasons, the public health concerns began to see the program decline. we were fortunate enough to orchestrate a buyout and the asset was attached to land when you pager property taxes the tobacco quota you had was
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part of the value of the land. no tax money was used in the buyout which you will remember from 2004 or 2005, but it was paid for by the industry itself. so over a ten year time period, this quota that was created by the government and added value to the land was compensated for and we always had diverse agriculture but there was nothing as big as tobacco. all the people in rural kentucky who grew up with tobacco or are hoping this will be really something. as we all know, hemp is very diversified. it could end up in your car dashboard, it could end up in food, it could end up in certain kinds of pharmaceuticals. it's time to figure it out and
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see where the market will take us. i just want to conclude by thanking you all very much for your interest in this. i think it's an important new development in american arc agriculture and there's plenty of hemp around predators coming from some other country. why in the world would we want a lot of it not to come from here. >> could i just add a word to what the leader said, you bring back a lot of memories. when i was sitting down there at the very end of the table we were the two most senior members of time and we both became chair of the committee. i remember the chairman sitting up here almost obscured by the tobacco smoke everybody was smoking.
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there was a strong anti-communist was burning crops and then you would hear little muttering and that was the rest of us say wha didd he say, you don't need to know. you do bring back some memories. thank you. >> thank you. >> anyway, times have changed for the better. >> thank you for that history lesson. [laughter] i remember when i first came here and we talked about the tobacco program with president coolidge and he was known as silent cal so he just nodded his head but now we have
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industrial hemp and the leader has that amendment and it will be successful. >> it will be hard to follow that, altughhe leader talked about a holler. in kentucky, being an area between two stands of trees. in our part of the world holler mean something else. hopefully we can holler when we pass this farm bill. thanks to both chairman and ranking member, i know you've worked long and hard and i appreciate your willingness to dialogue. as each of you have come around and worked with all the members of this committee and then gone back and worked with each other, that's what it takes to get base text to put us in position to pass a bill. that's where we are. i know we will go through amendments, hopefully not for too long, but it doesn't happen without that base that reflects the input of all the members.
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as a number of our members have said, we don't get everything we want but will work on that a little bit in the amendment process to try to get some additional things done. that base text is vital in terms of getting a starting point that we can bring this bill out of this committee with enough consensus to move it on the floor. i think were in position to do that and that's a tribute to you too and it doesn't happen without an incredible amount of work on your part and a lot of experience and knowledge of what you're working on and your staff and our staff. big thanks to you and the staff. i know some have been up all night so we have to recognize and appreciate how hard they work and how committed they are to helping get this done. leader, i think it's particularly good you're here because it reflects our ability to get this done. your push behind it here in committee and on the floor. i think the priorities are in here. that's what i think this does work. our farmers are up against commodity prices are low and
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they face a lot of challenges. we have to try to move this bill to reduce the uncertainty. they are the most productive in the world, no question they can compete. the point i like to make is good farm policy benefits every single american, every single day because we have the highest quality, lowest-cost food supply in the world. this helps every american. it benefits every single american every single day. not to mention the economic benefits our farmers and ranchers create whether it's jobs and trade, you name it. just mentioning the priorities, the things we laid out are vital.
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this lays out on the existing farm bill. were not trying to re-create the wheel, were trying to improve the bill we have. we are doing things in food, fuel and fiber that we would never even dreamed of a few years ago. we could go back five years. we are growing crops for energy and other uses in addition to food that we can grow in regions of the country before and that's all due to research. we need them both. we cover the bases here and obviously the no-cost sugar program is very big and are part of the world. it's a huge industry and it goes to making sure our farmers have a fair opportunity to compete in global markets.
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programs like the vaccine ban to make sure we keep our livestock and cps, particularly our livestock healthy and our crops healthy, access to capital is one i think we will work on some more, i think we will get something done, there could be some back and forth but we have to make sure our farmers and ranchers can get that access to capital particularly in these tough times. i will wrap up there but again, thanks to all the members of the committee for the willingness to work together. it starts with our leadership and i want to thank you and the staff for all the hard work. thank you so much. >> thank you senator heitkamp. >> i think they really outlined very well the priorities for north dakota, but while the majority leader is here, i would like to mention as one of the negotiators on the tobacco settlement, we work very hard to try to get a transition piece so they could in fact find success in other crops.
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i think the industry's willingness to step up will show that allow the growth of hemp in the state. we been waiting for this for almost 20 years. i'm proud to join with you in helping your farmers transition into a crop they can be successful in. i think that's the beauty of the farm bill for all o us. the beauty is we recognize the regional differences and the commonalities and then were able to forge a coalition for our ranking member and chairman. i just want to point out a couple things. i hope we can all hang together on the floor with changes to the farm bill that will weaken the structure and coalition. we know there will be an
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attempt to change the foundation of the crop insurance program. limitations that i think could weaken the program. we always have a challenge with sugar. some of the colleagues don't always share that point of view but i voted for tobacco and a lot of things, cotton and rice that we don't grow in north dakota because that's in essence the quality of the coalition that's forged here. i stand ready, much of the land is in agriculture whether it's ranching or farming. think about that. it's the bedrock of what we do in north dakota, and as the majority leader said it is part of our culture and we care deeply about the spread that's witnessed by having two senators from the dakota on the committee. we will have an assignment process here. i hope we come out united to pass the farm bill and make this process easy on the two
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who have done the most amount of work and that is german roberts and ranking member cavanaugh to get this across the finish line. we pledge our cooperation to getting this past before july. i yield the rest my time. >> thank you. >> thank you ranking member and thanks for parental supervision to get us to this point in your hard work on this bill. this bill is good for montana farmers and ranchers among other things it will protect crop insurance. i hear a lot about that back home to support critical ag research and provide much-needed certainty in these turbulent times. if you look on the notepad in front of each of us, this is a committee on agriculture, nutrition and forestry. i do believe the forestry title could be stronger.
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while i'm grateful that includes my legislation with the senator to empower state forrester's to do cross boundary work, i do believe we could do much more to restore active management of our national forest. forest is a cro crop. you planted and harvested. i'd like to address three common misperceptions that i often encounter as we think about national forest policy. first is that the timber wars of the previous generation are still going on today. if you believe that, put on your olivia newton john user can have your debate, but in reality, in montana and across the west we are seeing extensive collaboration and counties working together to determine substantial management forces. we should not allow extremist to obstruct their work. this leads to the second myth which is that restoring active management is just a code phrase for excessive logging. actually, active management is critical to restoring healthy
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forests which has widespread benefits, clean air, better fish and wildlife, the outdoor economy, clean water and wood products jobs. most important active management enhances public safety by reducing the threat of wildfire. a healthy forest is a carbon sink you wildfire is an incredible emitter of carbon. the third false impression is accelerating projects shortchanges the process pretty currently takes 18 - 20 months to do most environmental reviews. after that's done many projects in montana are litigated which can add years of delays. right now as i sit here, 29 timber sales in montana alone are currently impacted by fringe litigation. unfortunately the french litigators and those extreme have a disproportionate views. mr. chairman, ranking member, reducing redtape and combating chronic litigation does not
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erode public input, it safeguards it. it does so by ensuring the feedback of the majority isn't obstructed by a few extreme dissenters. to be clear, robust science driven environmental review and public engagement would still occur under every propos tay. : :
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in minnesota, it would be knee-high. i'm using my time -- [laughter] so, our famers -- farmers are facing lot right now. midwest, ar in the issues,, we have trade work that goes to canada. beef to south korea. corn and pull tryoultry to mexico. it makes it even more important that we come together with a solid and consistent farm policy out of the congress when they're facing those kinds of headwinds. we're glad that, mr. chairman, that the strong farm safety net is in and some of the changes to the arc program are good. i am
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glad the work that senator cornin and i did together to lead to the permanent authorization for the national animal disease preparedness response and recovery program and this vaccine bank that everyone has referred to. we lost nine million turkeys in 23 minnesota counties as senator smith noted. so this is really important in the midwest. and we don't know when we're going to see the next disease or what it will be and we have to be prepared for that. our conservation programs are good. we got up one million acres. we'd like to see more. and our provision to fix the loophole in the program is includesed. also the work we have done to make this bill as sophisticated as our farmers and the kind of technology we're using now to be able, with precision, the data we're collecting to allow that
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data to be shared which will lead to better conservation practices, but is also supported by our farmers because it could lead to less expensive production if we figure out how best to plant, how best to use water. those are exciting things in this bill. i want to thank also senator dane. we have a big track of forests in minnesota where my dad's hometown is up in northern minnesota. so thanks for all. all in all, this has been a great effort and really assigned to our rural communities that we're going to have some consistency coming out of the united states senate when that corn is knee high or shoulder high on the 4th of july. thank you. >> thank you, mr. chairman. united states is today one of three great bread baskets in the
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world and certainly a national security industry. it is the largest industry in my state and i fought to get on this committee for that reason. i want to thank you and the ranking member for your hard work on this farm bill, producing a product that balances the needsf every commodity in every region is not an easy task. i'm happy to see this draft attempts to do just that. as most of our members have done, i have traveled all over my state, the state of georgia listening to stakeholders. one thing is abundantly clear, this is a jobs bill. getting this farm bill across the finish line is a must for rural communities in my state and all over the country. that said, this bill is good, but it's not perfect. it's a solid common sense, fiscally responsible bill and i look forward to getting it through the senate floor shortly. however, there is one area that as we go through the amendment process i think we need to pay attention to. electric
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cooperatives provide electricity to families across rural georgia. i'm very reasoned about the financial impact of the rings to the rus cushion of krets program currently included in the bill. it could cause electricity rates in georgia to increase dramatically. mr. chairman, i know members also share my concern. so i'd like to continue will you the conversation on how we can lesson the total impact on of thesell you you of these are changes to this program. again, i want to thank and i echo senator leahy's comments earlier. i have said this for three years. this is probably the most bipartisan committee i sit on. i appreciate the work that the ranking member and you, chairman roberts, have done to provide that background for the bill. i look forward to going through the amendment process with you and hopefully get this done as we go into the fourth of july. >> i thank the senator. senator
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and casey. in and >> i want to thank you and the ranking member for the work that you have done on this bipartisan farm bill. i can't imagine the number of hours you put in. we're grateful for that work. i live in a state where nearly 3.4 million people live in 48 rural counties, about 27% of our population. this bill makes important investments in rural pennsylvania communities, as well as those across the country. it provides, excuse me, provides our farmers with the certainty they need and deserve. and it makes important changes to the farm safety net, ensures that those in need will not go in your that those in need will not go hungry. i'm pleased that the bill establishes a farm to food bank program and makes it easier for our farmers to access the senior food box program. the bill that this committee has crafted appropriately recognizes the diversity of american agriculture and makes and you agriculture and makes regional investments in local
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crop investments in local and and regional food systems, especially crops. provides you and i especially crops. provides permanent mandatory bias line funding for organic and research. the bill also makes significant investments in conservation programs. it and codifies the conservation you will and reserve enhancement you and the regional program, and program, which is greatly are you important to the state grateful for the of pennsylvania and increases funding for the you regional conservation partnership program. i'm grateful for the pennsylvania priorities that are included in the bill. and i want to again commend the chair and the ranking member for their work and i want to thank adam, joyce and claire of my staff who did such good work. thank you. show >> thank you, senator. senator ernst.
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>> thank you very much. thanks, mr. chair. and of course thank you, ranking member, as well. also to the members of this committee for all of the diligent work over the past year. i know this has taken an incredible effort to get us here today. i am pleased we're taking this important step forward in supporting our farmers and ranchers and addressing many of the concerns i have heard from iowans as i tour this state. farmers are resiieresilient. but when we're saddled, it does take a show. farmers and ranchers know we have their back. this maintains robust crop insurance, promotes soil health and water quality. however, the bill is not perfect. we must do more to help snap recipients rise up out of poverty. the u.s. economy is booming right now. for the first time on record the number of job openings exceeds the number of americans looking for work. we must seize this opportunity to help folks become self-sufficient. mr. chairman, i would like to thank you and the ranking member to work with me
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to include a pilot or milk incentives in the managers package. the evidence is clear folks do lead healthier lives if they consume more milk and i know my dairy farmers will truly appreciate that. i know farm bills are forged through compromise. that's what you have done, mr. chair and ranking member, is work on that compromise. this committee looks for common ground where it can be found and in that spirit i appreciate the willingness to
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include this pilot. and i am hopeful this is just a first step forward on this important issue. we have a bill before us that will need hungry americans, protect our natural resources, mitigate risk and support our rural jobs. with that said, let's roll up our sleeves. let's go on get toork and give our farmers and ranchers and folks all across this great nation the certainty and predictability they need now and for many years to come. thank you very much, mr. chair. show >> i want to thank you for this farm bill but also for your leadership over many years. when the democrats were in charge here, we were able to pass a bipartisan farm bill that was the only fiscally responsible bill that congress passed in that time. we're doing it again with republican leadership. i'm so grateful that there is an oasis. thank you for being here. and if you want to send everything through the ag committee, we might find that we could actually get some important work done on behalf of the american people. it is good to see. with the uncertainty on trade and on immigration in my state and with commodity prices where they are, our farmers and ranchers desperately need this farm bill, not just to pass on
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the floor of the senate, but to pass through the house and be signed by the president. i am so atefulas i said, for the leadership of this committee and i just wanted to tick off a few things that are important to colorado that are in this bill. first, the forestry title provides a ma viet of new tools to help the forest service, partners in industry and other stakeholders better manage our forests and restore priority watersheds. that is critical for us. second, we've placed a much needed emphasis on soil health innovative conservation and the conservation title and we reward producers for taking proactive steps to protect wildlife habitat. in addition to improving risk management tools we provide new economic opportunities in rural america by legalizing agricultural commodities in colorado and the state into the majority leader thank you for your leadership on the provision. of the provision. it's a testament to this crop
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that it is so widely supported in the community it grows everywhere in colorado coming and we have had many people who are farmers and ranchers looking at opportunities to manufacture, not just grow with manufacture products to add value and high margin goods in the rural parts of the united states which is critically important to driving the incomes. i look forward to the discussion in this markup and the work that we will do together as republicans and democrats on the floor to preserve this big piece of legislation. thank you for your leadership. >> in the run-up to the committee developing the farm bill i visited farms across the state and held meetings with stakeholders from nearly every segment of the agricultural community. in order to collect priority is from the farmers.
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i view myself as hired help and i am committed to writing a farm bill in the rural communities and address sensitivity. i have heard repeatedly over the last year about the need to write a farm billha helps manage the uncontrollable risks of farming including perfectin g the commodity programs that reflect market conditions. i heard about the importance of that with the new market opportunities, particularly for supporting experts to the markets around the world. i heard a strong passion of many for the water health and quality. i listen to those who care deeply about the support and the local communities especially doing everything we can to fight the opioid epidemic. i talked with students and researchers and assorted benefits of investing in tomorrow's farmers and
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technologies and i visited with them to spend their time fighting hunger in our communities. the farm bill developed by this committee reflects those important priority is, promotes voluntary conservation, develops nemarket opportunities, supports the rural communities and address food insecurity. it's not perfect, and we have to work on a number of opportunities today to improve it further, but it is a very good bill. it's a testament to the members of the committee being able to work together as advocates for agriculture. i would think the chairman and ranking member for their bipartisan efforts to get us here today i look forward to working together to get this farm bill across the finish line to get our farmers and communities tha the certainty tt they deserve. >> thank you mr. chairman. >> i want to thank all of the members for their comments. the committee will proceed out to the consideration by
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unanimous consent we adopt the nature of the substitute that will be considered as the original text for the amendment and without objection so ordered. next i offer both the manager's amendment that has been distributed to all members and then end up with amendments by the ranking member and myself all offices have been notified as to filed amendments in any modifications are included in the block and the list of those amendments and modifications have been distributed to all members. all of those in favor of the amendment signify by saying i the committee will proceed by considering amendments to this bill title by title in reverse starting with title 12 and finishing with title i. once finished with a title, we
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will move to consider amendments to the next and in addition, we had a great without objection that i'll need to be drained and have a property file, maintain a budget neutral bill and be free from earmarks and other and the substitute amendment which is the text of the mark now in the amendment form to not include significant matter outside of the committee's jurisdiction. i would note the relevant amendments to the title may open a different title in order to preserve an overall budget neutral bill. senator stabenow, are you in agreement? without objection, so ordered. the committee is open to any amendment on the title. >> mr. chairman. >> thank you mr. chairman. i would like to call it amendment number seven to
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indicate duplicate pesticide committee. this bipartisan amendment would address the duplicate of permitting of the clean water act. this duplicate of process creates unnecessary resource burdens and challenges for pesticide registrants and users including small businesses, local water authorities and the agricultural communities. pesticides are critical for maintaining the healthy and viable environment by eliminating harmful and invasive tests and threaten the livelihood of the agricultural producers. we already required th require o ensure pesticides cause no unreasonable adverse effects to humans or the environment. the label is the law. users who do not follow the label or in violation of federal law even without a permit. with the increasing water act
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liability, many communities and small municipalities are being forced to reduce their control programs. this places families at risk for devastating mosquito borne diseases like west nile virus, yellow fever and malaria. it offers no additional benefits because pesticide applications are already received and regulated through the stringent approval process. furthermore, the epa and the obama administration also agreed that they could adequately manage the pesticides and they do not need the component. again this amendment clarifies the congressional intent to clean water act permit shouldn't be required for the application
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already approved by the epa and authorized for sale distribution and use. i want to thank the senators for cosponsoring this amendment. i recognize there's a differenca difference of opinion in the committee on including commonsense regulatory reform measures at this time, so i will not ask for a roll call vote. however, i hope we can resolve this long-standing issue as we look to action. i would withdraw the amendment. >> i would think my colleague and neighbor to the north for raising this issue. it should be an issue important to all of us. thank you for your leadership we will continue this discussion as it proceeds. are there any other amendments >> i would like to call it amendment number six.
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it may seem like it is unique to north dakota but i think that it is a critical amendment to have a discussion about these two issues. one is the states rights in the state's ability to regulate who owns farmland and it's critically important that we keep input costs down and i think that the senator grassley talked about the prices and spend part to not allow corporations to own farmland that has helped keep it in the hands of the family and keep the long-standing policy. in spite of a consistent position from the state legislature, but consistent position from the voters of the statthisstate who have systematy voted to maintain this policy,
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there is a pending court case that uses the commerce clause and that is something in favor right now by this court but to argue because it would burden interstate commerce in thi intos body has enacted to prevent it that it would in fact be in violation of congressional policies regarding the control of interstate commerce and so yes there is a federal connection if we pass the amendment with what actually happened is the court would then be sent a signal that we would respect the amendment and states rights and respect the ability of the states to make these determinations on their own, recognizing that this is barely a satiric and recognizing that i haven't yet been able to find a cosponsor for this amendment. i would withdraw its i want to help educate about how critically important it is to left the states regulate the ownership of the land within their jurisdiction.
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i just wanted to thank the senator for fighting for her farmers in north dakota and account of the country. we know this needs further work and we are committed to working with you on this, but we understand and appreciate how strongly you are fighting for them. >> are there any other amendments in title 12? >> i would call up amendment number five. this would grant the discretion to improve soil moisture monitoring by increasing the number of stations by using cost-effective soil and moisture measure devices and also would require usda agencies to use consistent precipitation monitoring data and drought assessment across programs administered.
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for the past two years in western south dakota, pacific ocean monitoring has been inconsistent, resulting in livestock producers not being eligible for raising assistance, and i'm sure that this is a problem that is unique to south dakota and probably occurs in others in sparsely populated areas. this is something that i heard rather consistently from livestock producers in western south dakota, and who might in some cases the adjacent farms and certainly in the adjacent counties that are created very differently because the methodology used is very inconsistent. the bill received a zero score from the congressional budget office. i think it is something that makes a lot of sense and certainly would provide some uniformity and consistency to this process in states like mine where it seems like we have recurring issues with drought. we had last year in 2017, and
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i'm sure that it will happen again but it's nice to have good data to work from, and i would ask for the committee's support. >> on the adoption of the amendment all in favor? all opposed. >> are there further amendments to title 12? >> mr. chairman, one other amendments i would like to discuss and i understand there are some objections, but this would allow amendment number six this would allow the process to
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prove this obese to be sold across the state lines. all of the poultry products sold for consumption or inspected by the food safety inspection service and allow the states to create these programs that require the state inspection programs to be at least equal to the federal meat and poultry inspection programs currently there are 27 states with meat and portray inspection programs however the product is processed at the state inspected facilities are not allowed to be sold across state lines. farm bureau and u.s. cattlemen support this amendment and its something similait'ssomething sf legislation offered i to my colleague of south dakota that i would be interested of moving the bill forward ask that we
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have an opportunity to discuss this further. is there an additional amendment? >> is the opposition that has shown up from those that don't want the competition from the in-state smaller process? >> there are livestock groups -- >> because those are fronts for the packers? the senato senator may be onto something there
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>> i have something to say about a few things. >> is that a confession? >> if not, please proceed to title 11. are there any amendments to title 11?
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>> [inaudible conversations] if i might just ask, i know senator klobuchar has an amenhe wants to offer and i know she may be in so if it may be possible to put it aside and go on and then come back to it when she's here, that would be terrific. >> certainly. are there any further amendments? >> amendments to title x. >> i would like to offer to title x that i will not be asking today there is some opposition i think within the conversation to continue but i do want to highlight the
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importance of this amendment and look forward to working with the committee on it. the purpose is to simply codify the exclusive role of the state agencies, not the political divisions as pesticide code regulators with the epa while congress intended the states regulate the sale distribution use, courts have interpreted otherwise. this would make sure each state has one set of regulations for the pesticides rather than a patchwork of different standards in each of the 89,000 cities and towns in the united states. they are dangerous and deadly diseases like busy to buy resource constrained by arbitrarily drawing borders of political subdivisions. let me also be clear this doesn't prevent a state lead agency for prescribing of state
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or does it interfere in the position of the property managers from deciding if they will safely use the management tools as authorized by the state and federal regulations and, on around public properties. it is a policy for the state lead agency to regulate, not hundreds of contradictory confusing and overlapping government relations, but because there is some controversy around this in a disagreemendisagreement around l be withdrawing, i do with all that. >> further amendments to title x? stanek are there any amendments to title nine? >> if i may note the energy title if you would be willing to move on, that would be terrific. >> thank you mr. chairman. i would like to call up the amendment regarding funding and
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technical assistance. this is the to go about the initiatives that are working through their capabilities making it easier for those that want to use carvin and asked to access to government resources and also provides a modest amount of funding for the competitive grants to overcome some of the barriers of the utilization that h we have heard it is difficult to put in place cost effective systems and this would provide competitive grants to determine the cost-effectiveness aggregating to a single biogas system. it also means i've heard that there were some concerns about the task force petition in the earlier version of this and i've since eliminated that language based on conversations i had with your staff and others spoke to the pork producers council
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and others this morning comfortable with the amendment now. the amendment i offered to date has addressed the concerns from the committee and i would like to thank senator smith for joining me as a cosponsor of the amendment which is supported by the farmers union carbon capture and the american biogas council and i would also like to thank you and the ranking member of your staff for working with me on this issue and i would ask for a voice vote. >> all of those in favor of the amendment will signify by saying i. >> are there further amendments to title nine is are there any amendments to title eight?
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>> mr. chairman. >> i call on the amendment number one that builds on the reforms that were made in beyond this by adopting the position taken in the environmental law center for the service to clarify the consultation requirements between the u.s. fish and wildlife service after receiving new information. the administration supports what i'm trying to do here. this helps further address that concern. they stopped doing reforms and i realize there is more discussion to be had so we look forward to working with both parties on
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this issue if the farm bill goes to the floor. as the senator withdrawn the amendment? does the senator wish to be recognized for any further amendments? >> i don't. are there any further amendments to title? are any of the amendment to title vii? amendments to title vii. amendments to title six. hearing no amendments, title five. hearing no amendments, moving to
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title for. hearing no amendments we move to title three. >> mr. chairman. >> senator heitkamp. if you would hold for senator holden. you want to go back to title five. senator heitkamp, introduce your amendment and then we will come back. >> i want to introduce my amendment and call up to title three, amendment number one supported by the senators this would open up the opportunity to trade into cuba using the trade promotion programs that are available to any other producer who wants to promote their
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product in any country that we have relationships with. i think that it is high time that we explore that market. it is somewhat ironic that i would be the person pursuing it because some of these southern crops, but this is a component of building those relationships that will help us to establish a trade relationship with a company that is only 90 miles off the shore. so, i am hopeful that we can finally close this chapter on the relationship with cuba and open up this opportunity for the farmers and ranchers to promote their products into so. i think we can all agree that one of the great concerns we have right now is market disruption and export. we know we grow more in this country then we could possibly consume and growing markets is critically important to improving our commodity prices.
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as i speak to people around the country, i've consistently heard one answer to the challenging economic times that we are facing is in regards to the strong trade policies. i traveled to cuba at least three times in my memory and witnessed first-hand the opportunities. we need a trade policy to providprovide search and stabils and at the same time we look forward to normalizing trade between the united states and cuba to take a measured and realistic approach, one that takes into account the responsible investment of taxpayer dollars and policies that encourage them to embrace the practices of free-trade enterprise and commerce. i look forward to continuing my work with colleagues to
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strengthen the markets for our farmers. i think we can pass this by a voice vote if the senator would agree. >> i would be thrilled if we could pass this. >> all of those in favor of the amendment, said signified, those opposed? going back to title five. i would like to call up amendment number one. this amends the amount of the loan guarantee which is 1.39 million increases it to 2.5 million. it increases the project from 300,000 to 600,000. the reason we are changing it to those amounts is because that is
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what both the commodity groups and financial institutions have asked for based on the needs of the farmers and ranchers athis time. and so, i've included another amendment as well as 1.57 million which is what the house passed. i would like the committee to consider the 2.5 million because then we are ending up in something more than the 1.75. you get 1.7 for come as a 1.75 you are not increasing it much. and again i didn't pull these out of the air. this is with the following groups have asked for. and it includes almost all of the commodity groups and national corn growers, national association of the growers, the american soybean association of national sorghum producers,
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national potato council, and also the financial groupscome to thin, thinkassociation, communi, national rural lender association credit counsel, credit specialists and in our state a whole litany of groups so that's why i would like us to consider the 2.5 million again remember when we go to the committee we are going to be negotiating the 1.75 so yo whenu look at one point for something between 1.75, probably two and a half if we could pass it, given that that is what all of the groups are saying they need out there and when you look we are not going up that much in fact it is based on what it costs to form these days and that is the amendment is to increase that amount with the request we
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received. >> mr. chairman i first want to thank the senator. senator. we worked together on many things successfully and we are still trying to get this worked out. we came at this with the same intention and that is because of the changes of the farming in the past that we need to make the law more updated so that it accommodates that, but at the same time a countervailing force is how we make sure all of the money isn't used up by the big farmers and there is still money for some of the smaller farmers and so that is why i am doing is against agree amendment to the amendment number one come and this amendment would increase the limits for both guaranteed operating in the cap of 1.39 million to 1.75 million. this would also increase the limits on the correct side, lifting the cap on the ownership from 300,000 to 600,000 in on
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the direct operating from 300,000 to 400,000. i know that this also includes important language i worked on with the senator to increase the data that we have on the participation rates and i've asked my fellow committee members to join me and again our hope is in the end that we will have a compromised. we know how important this is and we went into it with that intention. >> further debate on the amendment. on the adoption all of those in favor. the business before the committee now is amended by the second degree amendment by senator klobuchar. all of those in favor signify. all those opposed? are there further amendments to
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title five? >> will take into consideration back to title 12 or is it title 11. if you wish to say anything with regards to title 12, something dealing with the farming act can i do that now? >> your recognized. this bill, part o of its own substance becausit onsubstance f industrial and i object to it being amended on several
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grounds, procedurally it is out of order and was first introduced in april and bypassed referral to the judiciary committee under 14 and was placed on the legislative calendar. now is being taken up in the committee and i have objected on procedural grounds my objection was ignored it is squarely within the jurisdiction and it is controlled substance subject to title 21 the controlled substance act on the substantive grounds i disagree with how it is designed under the bill if the purpose is to legalize it for industrial use, then the build should do that, but it does not. it opens up to include derivatives from extracts. they are not used for the industrial purpose is for things like cannabis oil. it is a chemical that can be
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used to treat everything from anxiety to epilepsy, things i found my constituents say they got good results from the palettit ishandled is importanti have a bill that provides a regulated pathway into effects of cbd for the process to make responsible products that would be regulated by the fda. today's bill would allow any to market and sell any product as a dietary supplement or anything else without any regulatory control whatsoever that leaves consumers without assurances about the safety and quality of the product and would put children at risk. i had a hearing on that very subject before the committee about the quality. i have constituents with
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epileptic children who are desperate for answers. these folks will turn into anything to help their children even if it means taking a inordinate risks by buying products that are not tested, unproven and harmful. my bill will provide assurances that things are put on the shelves after testing is done and the necessary approvals were met. so i ask members of the committee to work with me to modify the i'm done mr. tran. >> -- mr. chairman. we coupled with the justice department and good suggestions
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from the ranking member of the judiciary committee and suggestions from the chairman of the judiciary committee i appreciate their input and in fact we incorporated a number of suggestions. the proposed plans and issuing regulations and in issuing guidance. it doesn't offer a the ability to enforce food drug. the first change we made as the
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tribes conduct oversight of their programs and that those who seek to participate the prograprogrammer honest and trul and haven't been convicted of a felony drug offense. just as it was for many years. in my home state of kentucky to oversee the state and federal department of agriculture with appropriate safeguards, but not the department of justice. i ask my colleagues to support the underlining professions and i appreciate the suggestions for the chairman of the judiciary committee made. we took into account a number of those but obviously chose not to
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include all of this. thank you mr. chairman. >> i would think the leader and both senators. we now go back to title 11. i would like to request a voice vote as modified. we have worked on this for many years and they were expanded in the 2014 farm bill to include states in the prairie region including minnesota, south dakota north dakota, montana and nebraska. this would maintain the states while giving governors around the country the option of opting into the program in their own state. i've asked to continue to work with senator thune to extend these two additional states as the bill moves to the floor.
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>> do we have your commitment to continue to work with us to? >> everyone around this table, and for that matter in farm country knows that i support maintaining crop insurance it's the number one issue that we heard from farmers, ranchers all across this country number one. the amendment would make technical changes to the provisions passed in the 2014 farm bill by clarifying circumstances that reductions and benefits will apply. while i have concerns with expanding the requirements beyond the print states, i think it does strike a good balance by providing the expansion nationwide only if the governors approved the policy change in the state. i appreciate the senators working with us to alleviate the concerns from the producers and
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crop insurance industry. we will continue to work with members of this provision as we look forward to the floor office in favor signify. those opposed, no. >> mr. chairman, i would echo what the senator said. we looked at this issue for some time. >> the senators recognized. >> thank you. [laughter] >> we appreciate the committee adopting in the base bill the position that closes the substitution loophole which the folks found a way around the provisions in the previous farm bill. so, that has been tightened up which is a good thing. we would love to see this go nation wide, but i think that the amendment has been offered and intense tuesday that and it makes sense, so we appreciate
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your good faith commitment to work with us as we continue to advance this and support the amendment. thanks. >> i thank the senator. >> mr. chairman, this is where i'm going to withdraw the amendment and i will be quick. this is the renewable fuel standard as you know is critically important to minnesota and indicates dozens of waivers have been granted to the refining companies effectively reducing the
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15 billion-dollar target, the renewable volume obligation. these actions hurt not only the biofuel producers but farmers across the u.s. and at the time and income is at its lowest since 2006 the secretary of agriculture has deemed t aders for the biofuel. senator grassley and i read a letter and i also appreciate the work that senator has done on this to the administrator in april expressing our concerns with some of these actions. the number that is to be issued each year is between six to eight for extraordinary reasons. the reports noted that the epa already issued 25 disproportionate waivers this year. i will continue to work to assure additional actions are not taken and undermining the minnesota producers.
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the news report says when the waivers are given for the gallons that are not mixed that he can reallocate. we ought to be reallocating because in november of last year several senators around the table and others that are around the table met with him and gave us a november letter saying what hthathe had the authority to dor not do and we got 15 billion gallons promised and that is what the president of the united states senate.
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they want to be pursued by the epa so they go through the uses of labor down to 14.8 so it's being appointed as ill serving for the president of the unitedd states by not carrying that out, and i would like to see all of these 25 waivers that he's given to get them reallocated. but right now we have to start looking to 2019 because 2018 is beyond us. they are working on the 15 billion gallons or whatever they are going to propose we don't know what they are going to propose, but to keep that promise, they better proposed 15 billion gallons and we better know now.
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we get what the president promised to. >> i just want to associate myself with those comments. >> thank you senator for backing up my amendment. he indicated i raise my voice. i'm not mad at anybody. >> that is just how to talk. when you are in the farmland you have to yell. unless you want to keep going on this i would like to call up the amendment number one.
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this is a modification and my amendment would restore mandatory funding for energy title programs at the 2014 levels this is what the senator was referring to for the cost of the margin protection program, premium for 2015, 2016 and 2017 it has been hard hit in the farm bill. it would be offset by eliminating the economic adjustment assistance. it was proposed as recommended in the 2019 budget. the amendment score shows that it saves 9 million over ten years.
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this amendment continues to programs that incentivize home-grown energy production and provide immediate assistance to the struggling dairy farmers. i would urge its adoption. i understand it could perhaps go by voice vote. >> the amendment would provide funding for a number of programs important to the members on both sides of the committee. those include the following energy programs, by a management research, the bio-based market program, the refinery renewable chemical and bio-based products manufacturing assistance program for the bio energy program and crop assistance program. it also provides support for those that tried using the market protection program in the first three years before it was modified by congress and again by the mark i am committed to working on behalf of all providing funding to these programs. it is a priority for several senators on the committee. senator stabenow. >> i just want to also support
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this amendment. thank you senator klobuchar for her terrific leadership on this and it builds on what we did as well in the last farm bill, and this is a jobs amendment. it is about the economy. it's about jobs in rural ameri america. the leveraged within $5 billion in private investment since 2009. so i want to thank senator klobuchar for working with you on this mesh debate the issue mentioned. i would also indicate a and very pleased senator gillibrand priority is in this package to help the small dairies that were not able to use the last programs of this is very positive as well. >> thank you mr. chairman. i have sympathy for what the senator is trying to do.
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the problem is the economic adjustment assistance program. it's a very popular program and has those in business and certainly this is a jobs situation. currently 44 companies in 14 states participated in the program. many states are represented in this committee and for that reason i would encourage a no vote and work at some point to see if we can find a different pay for. ..
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the only thing i would say is again there are many individuals that will be affected by this 44 companies, 14 states, many sitting on this committee. >> i want to say to both senators, i want to keep on working on pay for says we move forward and i'm committed to working on behalf of bettering all regions and all crops and the situation where we are trying to improve one
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reason but it poses some problems to another. >> could we get a vote on the amendment. >> suggesting that we simply have a voice vote, but if the gentleman would like a roll call vote, okay. all those in favor of the amendment will signify by saying i. all opposed, no. the i's have it. is there any amendment tonight? we will go back to title v. any amendments to title v?
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any amendments to title iv? anymes on title iii? title ii? >> mr. chairman, senator leahy is not here and asked me if i would offer an amendment that has been modified. i understand we need to take in a voice vote. this would give livestock and dairy farmers flex ability to prioritize implementation of the environmental quality incentive program, whole farm plan and would provide more time for livestock and dairy producers to create their whole farm management plan.
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i would offer that on behalf of senator leahy and asked for support. >> all those in favor please indicate by saying i. all opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, the i's have it. >> mr. chairman, this is number nine. this amendment provides several amendment to crp and is supported by ducks unlimited and the national farmers union. very simple, what it would do is increase acreage. the crp acreage today is capped at 24 million acres. the base bill has a 25. this would increase that to 26-point to 5 million acres. at the same time, provide much needed hang grazing flexibility by allowing one third of the contract holders acres to behave or graze each year. this lowers the rent to 85% of
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rental rate on general crp contract but keeps it at 88.5% for all continuous crp contracts. work closely with both production agriculture and wildlife organizations to craft these changes that improve crp without damaging its conservation wildlife habitat potential. that's very much it. it allows an increase in the cap from what the current cap was at 24 million, the base bill which is 25, the sleep raises at 1.4 million acres and provides much-needed flexibility when it comes to the management of those acres. it's done in a way that is supported by not only those who benefit directly from it, but all the other groups but also are on the wildlife production corners and
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environment groups. i would ask the committee to approve it. >> mr. chairman, first appreciate very much what the senator is trying to achieve. at this point i would say our bill provides an increase in crp up to 25 million acres. both the chairman and i found a way to increase the crp acres to this level without cutting rental rates so low that it would make the program less attractive to producers. i know there's a number of concerns out there about that at this time. mr. chairman, i would stand with you in the balance agreement that we have on funding for the conservation title. i would oppose this amendment at this time. >> mr. chairman. >> it's not just the increase in the acres which again is something we think makes a lot of sense, but there are some things in current law that absolutely make no sense and
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i, for the time i've been involved with this program and with farm bills, been able to figure out why, under mid- contract management practices usda has required that this cover on acres be harvested or destroyed. even during years of severe drought and hey shortage. we find ourselves, as we did in 2012 and 2017, going to usda and begging for emergency authority to hay and gray some of these acres which we did get in 2012 and 2017. that authority was granted to environmentally sensitive acres without any adverse effects. this is an amendment that brings some much-needed flexibility to crp acres by allowing farmers a third every three years, or i should say
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you take a third of their crp acres in any given year end be able to hay those. also with a reduction in payments commensurate with th or to graze those acres in the same way. again, it's something that we find, at least in our part of the country where crp is utilized rather extensively, that under these mid- contract management practices they have toestroyhis. it's a valuable commodity particularly in years where you have a drought. it gets rid of the need for mid- contract management practices. gets rid of the need for emergency hay and graze drought years. this is an amendment i think is not only going to be very popular, it is very popular with producers, but also is supported by all the impairment of conservation groups and wildlife production groups including ducks unlimited and pheasants forever. i would ask members of this committee support this. the reduction in the rate on
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regular crp acres goes from 88.5% which is in the base bill to 85%. we keep it at 88.5% for continuous crp acres which is something you all wanted us to do. we think the groups are supportive of having this rental rate at 85% in order to get the increase in the acreage and the flexibility that would come with this amendment. >> i want us inc. the senator for offering this amendment. i know the crp program is especially important to you and south dakota as it is in my state of kansas. as a matter fact i was one of the original cosponsors of the program back in the day. i am concerned about the effect of such drastic changes to the current policy especially in light of the rental rate reduction. having said that, i will
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recognize. [inaudible] >> first of all i think there are a lot provisions that i would agree with an eye would support, and i would suggest trying to find a way to move forward. if this would change the balance of overdue but there are important provisions and i would agree with them in terms of how this has been operating. and so, i don't know if you want to go ahead with the vote at this point or certainly we could work together as well. either way, go ahead. >> i was just adding that you have the commitment of the senators to work with you on the floor to get this amendment worked out. >> the only thing i would say, based on my observation is that it's unlikely we will get through a lot of amendments and this is what happened in
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2014 and the last farm bill. the amendment process got shot down when we got to the floor. the only way this could be adopted on the floor is if were willing to accept it in the form of a manager's amendment or perhaps we end up in an open process where we can offer amendments. based on our recent experience, i'm not sure that will happen. these are very the groups out there who would be most impacted by this support this. the number in the hospital on crp acres is 29 million acres. the rental rate goes down to 80%. if we go to 85 on other crp acres, in addition to raising the capital little bit which only goes part way to the house, the house is at 29 and we'd be at 26-point to five are these changes in the management practices which i think are long overdue. if you're willing to work with
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me as part of a managers package when we go to the floor, that would be one thing. i'm not sure commitment to allow us to offer it on the floor is something that either of you may be in a position to offer up. >> mr. chairman, just one further thing. we don't know exactly how the process will be on the floor, but i would say just for the record that the wildlife organizations are not uniformly for the spread there are differences of opinion that i would like to see worked out. at this point, i appreciate very much what you are saying. i can't support this at this point as it's written and we can continue to see if there are pieces of it. >> mr. chairman, for, i just want to clarify there is a middle ground. it was 3 billion for cotton
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but it was paid for as you pointed out. the dairy was 1 billion. wel ctinue t work with you. >> what was the question? >> do you wish to proceed with a voice vote on this? >> again, i'm not sure which wildlife organization the senator is referring too. we have ducks unlimited and pheasants forever. we work closely in the past on the hay and grazing provision with wildlife federation. to my understanding and knowledge, those groups are supportive of what were trying to accomplish with respect to these changes in the management practice on crp acres. >> we have recently received indication from the national
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wildlife federation that they are not supportive. that's what'saising concern for me. >> let me just say despite our best efforts the senator and i can't guarantee certainty on the floor, but it is our intention to work with you to see if we can't continue to address the concerns that the senator has. i want to say i'm concerned about the effect with regards to the production. i appreciate the senator for working so hard on this but i think most of his legislation is meritorious. the senator, it's up to you. would you like about? >> mr. chairman, if you're willing, when we get to the floor on this, to consider some of these changes, if
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there's a change we can make -- in the past wildlife federation has been supportive of most of the things we try to do when it comes to these contracts. to get this flexibility i would be willing to work with you on that. i have been trying for years to get usda to change this mid- contract management practice which to me absolutely makes no sense why you would have to destroy or burn what is very valuable a, particularly in years when it has great value for people who need it in a drought. to me it's the limit or the cap and the flexibility. if the chairman is willing to work with us. >> i'm certainly willing and i would say candace experienced a wildfire burning 135,000 acres an hour in the middle of a drought just as you are up nort north, but
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i'm certainly willing to do exactly that. i know the senator does as well. >> i would like to express my support for the amendment and hope that something can be worked out on the floor. >> i appreciate your comment. >> with that assurance and to admit i will withdraw the amendment. >> i appreciate that. >> any other amendment entitled to -- in title two. title i?
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>> that's the intent. here we go. >> title i. i'm sure you're tired of hearing from you on this, but i think as you in the center know we been trying for some time to find a way and i've been working with senator brown on legislation that would make the art program workable. i am disappointed that we haven't been able to do that as i expressed in my opening statement. if you look at the entire nation, after the 2014 farm bill, 77% of farmers in this country adopted the art program. the reason for that is because it provides both price protection and protection for production loss as well. we will not have, going
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forward, a program in title i that provides revenue protection and protection not only against price loss but also production loss. i think that's unfortunate. we were trying to get scores from cbo. we didn't get scores until late last night on several proposals we had to try to make the art program workable. we think there are common sense changes, but we have not been able, at this point, to come up with an amendment we think it's the job done. i want to continue to revisit this issue, i felt for some time we need to make some changes in the commodity title. one of the ways we propose paying for this was with the base update which again, we have thousands of acres of land that haven't been cropped for years or decades and some of that land is planted for
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grass, hate work raise. with the limited funding it makes sense, in my view to target funds to where they really need to go and that's to those were actually farming the land. because we been unable sce the bills introduction to the markup, to get scores in cbo to put us in a position to offer amendment that we think could pass and actually accomplishes the desired goal to offer the amendment for 12. i'd say that's a thought and expressed disappointment that we were unable to get something adopted, a program that was chosen by 77% of the farmers in this country, in place because i think it will be something they will miss.
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>> in the interest of time i will associate myself with the comments and i appreciate the work he has done on this with title i. we need to continue these market-oriented reforms and hope we can move forward and get the discussion turned into real language on the floor. thank you. >> senator brown and has been working very hard to improve the program. it is a much-needed program. in kansas, 75% of our farmers chose this over crp. that was during the good times in agora agriculture. perhaps farmers might want to at least consider the
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program. i've heard the calls from both of these senators and we've tried to work together to incorporate as many changes as possible. it includes multiple improvements including increases the substitute yields to 75% and requires the use of trend adjusted yields in several technical changes. i do have concerns with the far-reaching impacts of the exchanges to the price loss coverage, reference prices. i would have to oppose the amendment in the current form but i understand your focus is to improve it, and i share your concern in that regard. i would like to continue to work with you as we head to the senate floor to consider further changes to commodity programs that provide producers more certainty and predict ability. i appreciate the senator withdrawing the amendment.
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i would only add that in the current form, kansas would lose 436,000 acres in their acreage base. the kansas bkers association estimates that would reduce land values by 20% and the same thing would happen in oklahoma and other high plains. texas is over a million. he gets back to one of my original comments that i hope we can improve all programs but not at the expense of others. with that, i look forward to working with the senators to make sure, to see what we can achieve. any other further amendments? i note that the reporting form is present. i move that s42 he reported favorably as amended. is there a second. >> second. >> all in favor, say i, all
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opposed say no. does anyone wish a rollcall vot vote. ve the situaon, why don't we asked the clerk to call the roll. the vote is on final passage. senator grassley, i think your ow amendment was not in final form. is that my understanding, i'm sorry for the.
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>> i had to rewrite the amendment a little bit to satisfy you, and we don't have the 45 copies available so go ahead and vote i note that a quorum is present in the clerk will call the roll. [roll call] [roll call] [roll call] [roll call] [roll call]
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[roll call] [roll call] [roll call] [roll call] >> the eyes are 21 and the no's are one. the bill is ordered to be reported as favored. one more change. 20 - 1. i ask unanimous consent that
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it be authorized to make clarifying and conforming changes that are appropriate. seeing no objective objections, so ordered but i want to thank my colleagues for writing in this important process. i ask unanimous consent is cement to the record urgent activity on this issue and support for the substitute amendment for the record. simply add this is not the best possible bill, but this is the best bill possible. i am proud and still by the work conducted by the committee. i think the ranking member and all members in attendance. conducting legislative work through regular order and utilizing the committee process in a bipartisan and manner. this hearing is now adjourned.
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[inaudible conversations] >> you've got to be actively engaged with the farmers. that's a legal term. >> how would you make sure, it sounded like you are interested in putting limits on that. that you are now. [inaudible] one is too many.
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[inaudible] >> , the people does it take to run a farm? >> i understand. if you're one person there's a loophole. [inaudible] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> there were technical
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