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george mason university'. >> no word of the mentioned market power in the decision, and that's the key issue. in a vertical merger and horizontal merger, how does the merger change the company's incentives and their ability to exercise greater market power? >> i teach antitrust law, i have an antitrust law casebook. we have looked a long time to find a vertical merger opinion to teach to students. there is not one in the modern era. out, andway this came even which way it comes out on one,l, should there be being the first fully litigated opinion in a vertical merger challenge in a long period of time, i do think, even though it is one district court judge, one specific opinion, one industry,
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does give it some degree of importance. other judges, should there be another vertical merger challenge, who are looking around to see what their judicial colleagues have done in these opinions, cannot miss this one because there is nothing else. >> tonight at 8:00 eastern on c-span2. c-span, where history unfolds daily. 1979, c-span was created as a public service by america's television cable companies. today we continue to bring your unfiltered coverage of congress, the white house, the supreme court, and public policy events in washington, d.c. and around the country. c-span is brought to you by your cable or satellite provider. a reminder that coming up at
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2:00, live coverage of the justice department inspector michael horowitz and fbi director christopher wray testifying on capitol hill. until then, a discussion on the agenda in congress this week from this morning's "washington journal." " continues. host: we take a look at the week ahead in congress and elsewhere with our two guests. our first guest is rosie gray from atlantic magazine. we also say good morning to .indsey mcpherson from rollcall let's start with lindsay. the a specter general's report came out last week on the senate side. who will be there and what are we looking for? the doj, michael horvitz, will be there. andrew mccabe will also be there. answering questions and i think
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we are expecting democrats to continue to probe on the comey findings. it was found that comey was negligent in some of his decisions that were against normal policies. the attorney general or the to come outthe time and it announced the additional emails from the anthony weiner probes. so you have to prove what they the election at the end and i'm sure they will be asking questions along that line. from the republicans, you should expect to hear about the text messages related to the officials,ith fbi
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also involved in the russian investigation, texting, showing bias against trump to show that they didn't want him to be elected. since those officials were involved in the russian investigation, i think the public will want to know whether there is bias in the russian investigation. host: lindsey graham from rosie gray from atlantic magazine. guest: the president's allies have used this as a munition and the ongoing case against the fbi. even though what the report says fbi behavedthe actually benefited hillary clinton in the end. basically it played into the long-running narrative that the white house has pushing the biased -- not
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acting virtually. and trump is pushing the message that it exonerates him and the russia probe that it isn't about the russia probe. it is about the investigation into the clinton emails. phone numbers are on the bottom of the screen for our guests. lindsey mcpherson and rosie gray. we invite your calls and will listen when they come in. once these hearings are done, what is next in this case and story? guest: i think republicans have been asking for more documents. the russia probe and they are expecting those soon. and if they don't get them soon then they warned they will start to do something here. and there are different members on the conservative side who have previously called for impeachment of the deputy attorney general, rob rosenstein, if he can't deliver what he is legally obligated to commit to congress. so i think they have a couple of
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weeks here to deliver before congress starts questioning them . as far as the clinton probe, i'm not sure how much further they want to go beyond these hearings. i guess it depends on what they reveal in the hearings. host: how will the white house use these hearings to its advantage the rest of this year and beyond? guest: it depends on how it goes but these hearings will be part of the push to show that there is bias against trump in the justice department and the fbi. it indicates that there should be some sort of reshuffling at the department of justice, which is that something trump has done yet that is something that has been suggested through the air that he could potentially do at some point. let's get immigration on the table before we go to our first call for our two guests. the house is supposed to be taking up to immigration bills
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this week. and it was off again and then on again. the first layout, two bills that the house is considering, what do they do? guest: very similar in the border security aspect. there is a bill by the house judiciary committee. it goes further on the enforcement side. and then there is the compromise bill that moderates and conservatives have sat in a room for the past two weeks and negotiated. they both provide for money for the wall. one of the big differences is that this bill only authorizes the money and the other one, the compromise bill, provides an advanced appropriation of the money. the big difference is on the dock aside, how they treat those populations. daca side, how they treat those populations. them at thedes
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ability to stay here with her deportation but it never provides a path to citizenship that the compromise bill provides six years of daca and the ability to apply for a merit-based visa which would lead to a path for citizenship. host: taking you back to the white house when the president was followed by a bunch of reporters as he was heading over it was askedx, it if he agreed with the policy of children being separated from parents. here is a look. ? i hate children being taken away. the democrats have to change their law. quiet. quiet. that is the democrats law. we could change this tonight. do -- democrats have to >> you control that.
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need 60 votes. we need 10 votes and we can't get them from the democrats. you can't do that with executive order. one question at a time. can be taking care of quickly and beautifully and immediately but the democrats force that law upon our nation. i hate it. i hate seeing separation of parents and children. the democrats could come to us as they actually are -- in all fairness, we are talking to them -- and they could change the border security. we need border security. of catch andt rid release. we have to change our laws.
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democrats have controlled because we don't have the votes. republicans need more republicans. which is why the we will do so well in the midterms. guest: -- rosie gray now from the atlantic -- the president saying he might not signed either of the house bills. that said people scrambling. the white house walks that back late last week. where is the white house now on the bills? there has been mixed messages about the bills, as far as the white house decision on them. he does go to the hill tomorrow afternoon to meet with house republicans about this. and i think we will have a lot more clarity than. as far as the message with the family separation situation that is happening. the clip you just showed, that showed him blaming it on the democrats. but there has been a pattern of trump and white house official shifting the blame to other
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parties, democrats or congress not being able to come together and trump actually could end this if you wanted to. the implication is that it has become a point of leverage in these negotiations on the hill. let's go to tony. we are talking about the week ahead. go ahead. caller: good morning. i have a couple of quick points here. first of all, blaming the democrats for their policies that he is putting forth with the immigration? we all know that is a bunch of baloney. so the republicans are in charge of everything now. number one. number two, i don't know why nobody is pushing back against him blatantly lying? nobody is pushing back on this. i find that troubling.
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republican, democrat, independent. a lie is a lie. investigation, when they want to keep saying -- it started with papadopoulos and how can they didn't ever say that this was something that was troubling to me? if they were investigating hillary clinton, i don't care if she did wrong. put her in jail. thator them not to say trump was under investigation also, i find that troubling. host: lindsey mcpherson, the two bills you described earlier, where is paul ryan? guest: he has provided no guarantee that either measure will pass. this bill has been out there for months but they have not brought it to the floor is because they don't believe it does have the votes to pass. speakerromise bill, the
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says he hopes it will pass but they are not sure. they delay this amid the confusion over the president's position after he said he certainly would not sign that bill. so they will revisit that after he visits with the conference tomorrow night. after the company meeting they will see if it happens. host: let's go to sears in milwaukee. good morning. good morning. rosie gray -- she commented nationalhat only reopening the emails investigation, she said it helps clinton and she misspoke, it
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hurts clinton. secondly, i am concerned about the social security deficit. and what would be the best thing to do to correct that? a large income, you only pay social security taxes on a tiny percentage. get more benefits back havea poor person who taxes on all of their income? right you are absolutely that i did miss being, it did not benefit hillary clinton. guest: the ways and means committee has had an impact. republicans feel strongly about entitlements. they have been working on democrats working with that. there needs to be entitlement changes before congress take that up. jeff froms go to
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mississippi. caller: my comment is on the discussion about illegal immigration. everything that is going on -- in the't they put -- system? lawyers have to have verification? [indiscernible] that was slow down the illegal crossing because -- that is common sense. host: what is the status of e-verify? guest: it was in the bill and it butd've made it mandatory my understanding is that they take it out of the bill before they vote this week and the house will take up a separate bill in july.
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host: rosie gray from the atlantic, can you remind us what the the pillars are president has talked about. the wall, border people areure that entering through legal ports of entry -- i'm blanking right now. bills on immigration the hill, he will be looking for part --ings to be able to be a part of them. but there is a question over and he can accomplish supporting the compromise bill a topic this week.
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the wall with the mexican border. the diversity visa program, limits on family immigration. and we also had stories last bek that the president might willing to shut the government down later this year if he doesn't get money for the wall. is that realistic? guest: they talked about this before. i don't think we could rule out think -- ig but i don't think it is necessarily at the top of mind at this moment. host: let's go to meet. caller: one thing i'm waiting theyour wisconsin is supreme court decision. because we had elections for the state legislature with gerrymandering. that is something that has been going on in different places across the country.
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so michigan or north carolina or , politicians have rigged the elections using gerrymandering so that people get out and vote for one party and the other party has seats when they shouldn't. i have seen this up close in milwaukee county itself. also statewide. so this is the undermining of democracy. it starts at the state level. and it can also go up to the house of representatives. either way it is a blot on democracy across the country. this year and pennsylvania, we saw when the state supreme court ruled that it could have a big effect on the elections. a lot of people running back to the democrats, the court true the map so we have the supreme court decision that could affect
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a lot of other states. more action in washington this week in clues the defense authorization bill. picking up in the senate this afternoon. the hill has this headline that the senate is bracing for a trump showdown over a chinese zte.om giant, what was the arrangement that the president made with the chinese and why does that cause so much chris pratt? -- cause so much push back? has raise questions over whether the president has played improperly with business deals. moreis also becoming germanic because we are in the midst of a heightened trade conflict with china. the president imposing tariffs and the chinese responding.
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the situation with china is becoming more heightened. explain how this plays out on the senate floor? it is in a manager's amendment. the ministration has asked the senate to remove it. leaders have shown no sign in doing that. saying that there is not a strong case were that. it looks like it will house -- it will pass in the senate. it would have to be resolved in a conference committee. host: then what does this move onto? the firsty take on package of appropriations bill. it is three packages that include a measure for military construction and affairs. the congress budget and energy and water.
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any major issues with those? in the house there is an issue with the funding. they're looking at the senate as the guide on this. the house has been able to this with primarily republican support. back tofore we get calls. we talked about the president's insistence on funding the border wall. when it comes to a spending bill , what priorities does the president have? guest: of art from the border wall, i think the president sure onke to -- i'm not the details of each of the specific bills. a high border wall is priority. to make sure want there is a certain amount of
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money going to the defense and i'm not sure on the exact civics -- exact specifics. i wanted to ask rosie gray, what is her evidence that stephen miller is the reason behind the immigration situation with the separation of families? guest: i point you towards the new york story -- the new york times story in which stephen miller defense policy and the times reports he has been behind the scenes, pushing this at the white house. host: you sound skeptical. the new york times, did you notice who their sources were? these days, i am a little skeptical about sources whether they are anonymous and his stephen miller the only one in in supportouse to is
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of this policy? it sounds like they are all against it but they have been it, am i enforce wrong? guest: there are certainly other thegration hubs in president, including the president himself. as far as the policy, you are correct that not everyone in the trump administration necessarily supports this. there is a split in the republican party in general over this. but it is also true that the administration could decide to stop separating the families if they chose. it isn't the democrats forcing these separations to happen. host: preston, you are on the line. wondering where someone finds the requirements for the rules on entering our
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country? host: why do you ask? caller: well, i don't know what they're required to know or not. i don't appreciate the fact that my telephone on something it says to press one for english. which it should be our countries language regardless. people that come in, whether or not they are legal, i know that some of the children have to have tutors in school. they get medical treatment. they get food stamps. they get a lot of privileges just because they're here. and another thing i've always wondered, like mexico, these are centuries-old countries. they have gold. they have things in their countries. why is it that we come a one of the youngest countries, has to support half of the world? these people have their own things to deal with just two
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there is, but somehow it comes down to the americans supporting the world because they expected, and we do it. host: all right. lindsay, want to take that one? available if you just google immigration laws. i'm sure you can find it online. thell just say republicans, what they are looking to do this week is not change every law on the books. they are trying to beef up enforcement to make it harder to cross illegally, as well as once people are here, to make people -- to make sure they can catch people. host: what has been the role of the democrats so far with these immigration bills, and what might they be in the weeks ahead? republicans have been negotiating on their own. democrats aren't really involved in these negotiations. negotiations were born out of discharge petitions about
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moderate republicans forced to vote on other bills more supported by democrats. thatrats did side and discharge petition to make sure measures got to the floor. actually havethey the votes this week. they basically can say we oppose the bill, and mitch mcconnell that have no incentive to take it up if it is not going to pass. host: how potent have the democrats been in recent days? do they matter much to this debate? certainly they've raised the profile on the separation of the border issue. that is addressed to some degree in the republican bill. the settlement in the court case republicans p oint to as one of the recent separation is occurring.
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because children can be put in a safer spot when their parents are attained, that is why they've been separated. that's what republicans are pointing to. democrats believe the administration can change it on their own. there are different viewpoints on that. certainly have raised the profile of it. it was all over the sunday shows. that is what they were all talking about this weekend. there's a lot of pressure for the admin efficient to address this. how much is this impacting the white house? >> it is certainly calling issue -- calling attention to the issue of family separation. it is becoming a really hot button issue that clearly could have some impact in the midterms. -- democrats seemly certainly seem to think it could have an impact on the midterms. host: melania trump and laura
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bush were active over the weekend. op-ed inh wrote an ."he washington post "i know there are good people at all level of government who can do better to fix this." we can also that melania trump's tweet on the air as well. her office put out this tweet. "mrs. trump hates to see children separated from their families. she believes we need to be a country that follows all laws, but also a country that governs with heart." >> both of those are notable on different levels. the laura bush op-ed is part of what i referred to earlier. there is starting to be more push back in the republican world against this. melania trump very rarely comments on policy, so it is notable in that regard. it is definitely a critique of
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what they are doing, although it is still her wording that both sides need to come together to fix it together. it is not a fairly a criticism of her husband, but it definitely indicates distance between her and this particular initiative. host: the president is up and tweeting. "why don't the democrats give us the vote to fix the world's worst the -- world's worst immigration laws? where is the outcry for the killings and crime being caused by gangs and thugs, including ms 13, coming into our country illegally?" caller: i want to know why the media keeps putting donald ismp's blatant lies that it the democrat laws causing the separation at the border. earlier on call in
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the deficit talk. donald trump has been in office for 512 days. 158 of those days have been spent at his properties. 116 of them at his golf properties. these are definite, verifiable facts. i want to know why the american people have to pay for him to and trashity to go the people that he doesn't like, and imocrats and whoever, just think the media is definitely messing up showing donald trump daily telling his lies, that it is democrat law that has caused this problem. i thank you for your time. but one more thing i want to say.
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host: callback after about 30 days. i'm sure some other issues will come into your mind. we do want to move on. let's go to lindsay mcpherson. can you pick apart this whole issue the color brought up, where the president is blaming the democrats for the laws that are in place now? can you give us a little bit of the modern history so we can understand this better? >> there is a human trafficking law they point to. i am not super familiar with it. the fact that we haven't seen this until recently suggest that the laws are not to blame. other presidents certainly didn't use those laws to take this approach. the attorney general jeff sessions with the zero tolerance policy, that has caused more detention of the parents, that has caused more separation of the children. the detention where the
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parents are being held, sometimes the jails and stuff, is too restrictive to put the children in. they can put them in a less restrictive place. the republican bill would make it so that they can be detained together, but that puts the children in jail with their parents. it is a catch-22. but there are different laws you can point to. the point is we didn't really see this in mass force until the attorney general's decision, so it is hard to point to anything but that is the main cause. host: that last caller also took issue with how the president spends his time. we know he is headed to duluth, minnesota for a rally. will that be typical as to what we've seen in these rallies? how does the crowd look? why is he going to minnesota? >> from time to time he's done these campaign rallies around the country. he did one in nashville
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recently. are again tohey the sort of rallies he held during the election. areas typically where he has a lot of support and a lot of his fans come out. it is a sort of exercise in maintaining his bond with his base and pushing a lot of his issues. i also think it is something he -- you know, he clearly sort of enjoys doing these rallies. host: anything else you can add about the president's schedule this week? a meeting involving the national space council today. he is going to the hill tomorrow afternoon. he's got some stuff on thursday that i am completely not remembering now. host:
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