tv Bipartisan Policy Center Honors 911 Commission Co- Chairs CSPAN September 12, 2018 5:46am-7:00am EDT
returns for work on the nomination of charles redding to be the next irs commissioner. on c-span3, at 3 p.m., the women's bipartisan caucus posts eight discussion on sexual harassment in the workplace. at 5 p.m. eastern, a conversation with justice ruth bader can burke -- ruth bader ginsburg. the bipartisan policy center honored former governor tom kane and lee hamilton for work as cochairs of the 9/11 commission. director of national intelligence dan coats spoke about his experience on september 11, 2001 and how his position was created as a result of recommendations from the commission. mr. hamilton was unable to attend the event, but delivered remarks in a prerecorded video message. this is one hour and 10 minutes. [applause] >> good evening everybody.
thank you, jason. it is wonderful to be able to cohost this evening. as jason has outlined, we are gathering for the anniversary of the worst terrorist attack in our nations history. we are reminded once again of the urgency of our mission to build peace and to resolve conflict around the world. ounded in 1984 by war veterans who were weary of their work during world war ii and the korean war and established usip was the mission of working to resolve international we are dedicated to the idea
that peace is very possible. it is also quite practical. it is absolutely essential for our national security. we work with partners around the world in the pursuit of peace and very practical ways. we are delighted to be able to use our global headquarters for these kinds of gatherings, bringing people together from across disciplines, different experiences, different political persuasions. that is why it is important.
document. from attacks. in the year since the report was released, we've seen the adoption of many of their recommendation on the bipartisan basis that enabled us to successfully weakened terrorist orga have enabled us to successfully weaken terrorist and most important like to protect the homeland from another mass casualty attack.
beyond responding to violent extremism and focused on preventing its rise in the first place. their report, a preventive strategy that is as much or more political as it is military. we've seen that without the successful prevention strategy in place, that terrorism in fact has continued to spread in the number of terrorist attacks worldwide has gone from fewer 22,002,001 to more than 10,000 in 2017. extreme as having particular gain a foothold in the fragile nature of the social contracts between government and their people have fundamentally broken and where they find fertile ground recruiting aggrieved, disenfranchised societies and in particular you and they were in
sympathy by providing services that their government in those countries do not. so last year, usip as it often is was directed by congress to convene a task force. this task forces to tackle the issues that lead to the spread of terrorism fragile states were asked to develop a comprehensive strategy for tackling extremism of the focus on mr. howell on the horn of africa. we are enormously grateful that governor kane and congressman hamilton once again answered the call for public service and really saw this as the complete completion of an arc from their very important work of the 9/11 commission. they are joined in this effort by a very thoughtful bipartisan task force. the members here with us today, could i ask you to stand our
task force members, senator -- ambassador johnnie carson. [applause] the task force is further supported by a group of senior visors, many whom are also here with us today and we thank you over the idea and energy that you're putting into the task or spirit our program today gives us an opportunity not only to reflect on and honor the legacy, but also to look forward to the culmination of their efforts through their work with the task force today. under their leadership, the task force has produced an interim
report. you'll find it at your seats. in this report serves to underscore the interlocking nature of the challenges posed by fragility and extremism. over the next few months these interim finding one for my final report which will include very specific concrete proposals for how we turned a decade of flirting in scholarship into action that matters. we welcome everybody thought that ideas and most of all we extend our gratitude to congressman hamilton and governor kean are picking up this challenge once again. thank you once again for joining us. we are delighted to have this evening together and enjoy your dinners. [applause] >> please welcome the director of national intelligence, the honorable director coat.
[applause] [applause] >> jason and me in to you, love you. and to do for peace, thank you for the honor to speak to you this evening. .one can grow quick. it's always danger to be speaking before dinner is served. you do have salads at your table. i only thought here is that the mother continually told me as a child, please keep your mouth closed when you chew, but i urge you to chew. the other thing that came to my mind was the story about the pastor delivered a wonderful sermon and greeted those parishioners on the way out because he thought he really delivered the goods sermon.
had all the accolades it came up to the pastor. what did you think of my sermon? i thought it was very good, but i believe you missed a critical opportunity. he said opportunity for what? to quit. [laughter] i make it a point this evening where if you look hungry enough i might have to quit in the middle. i want to thank you for the honor of being here talking to you. i've enjoyed a long partnership with the bipartisan policy center. following my return from germany i served as cochair along with former senator and by former senate colleague, chuck ross. little did i know it was on the ivory and passwords.
little did i know then that i would be standing here today as director of national intelligence in virtually every morning reading or looking for asking what happened in every of us today. so, it is a pleasure to know that the epc in combination with the institute for peace is still putting out great programs, great information that is of value to those policymakers that will be taking a look at this to be of value to this country for what you're doing and we have some terrific people here to do that. want to acknowledge my former colleagues, kelly ayotte who i had the distinct privilege of serving with. i miss you. the senators as you. and we hope you will continue to
seize the opportunities to serve your country because i know how much you love your country. i'm glad you you are here doing what you're doing and others. [applause] governor keating just told me he's moving out called. i moved back home and now i'm back here. be careful. be really careful. chuck robb and i had the perfect time working together at another good friend is in the audience, tim flannery. i'm republican, he's democrat. we actually like each other. i know you're part of this commission also. by respect for the bbc approach to the way they do things, just
the facts, analysis and solution to our nation's key challenges is what we're looking for the intelligent agent the end we do get just the facts from a on a the bipartisan basis along with solution and we very much appreciate that. i'm here to pay tribute to two great american pastry at. reflect other legacy in contributions to our counterterrorism effort. as a fellow hoosier and colleagues in the congress, sorry that you can't be here, but you're here in the spirit i know. lee is a longtime friend and former colleague. lee has earned great respect for members of both sides of the aisle for his exceptional leadership on ladders of foreign-policy and national
security. served as an example with his formative intellects, tireless work ethic and nonpartisanship. i'm not surprised to be signed up along with you for this next step. you know what a privilege it is to work with lee. while our political careers have some parallels, lee achieved many milestones including one that i will always envy and never achieve. he was inducted into the indiana basketball hall of fame. [applause] trust me, as far as hoosiers or can turn, nothing else you can do in life comes close to that achievement. the lifetime of service to this nation is truly remarkable. from governor of new jersey to cochair the 9/11 commission to
drew university, tom is widely respected for his approach of leadership and willingness and ability to work with others to achieve a common goal. so we gather to honor these two man on the somber anniversary of september 11. i stood this morning at the pentagon during the ceremony. on the side of the pentagon where our son-in-law as a young army captain who was serving. marsha and i have been to germany just the weekend before, starting our ambassadorship. september 11 was the second day of my job. what i noticed that the plane flew in to that portion of the pentagon, i knew that's exactly where our son-in-law was. his commanding officer was
killed as was one of his aides. he miraculously survived all that, so that moment it came back to me in a very personal way and we are grateful that he survived and we regret that so many lives were lost. as i said, we had arrived in germany just the weekend before and literally my very first act to the be saying hello to all the staff the very next day. i asked the staff to find someone who could best provide the experience of the relationship between the united states and germany postwar. other residents of the driveway cave a german citizen and 88 years old he was to set and
dr. ernst cramer. his life story was remarkable and inspiring in a speech to the importance of service to a cause greater than one south. as a young teenage man, he and his entire extended family were sent to google mole. after they're a writer, and a family cobbled together whatever valuables they had managed to smuggle them out of the camp in the hands of people who consented to the united states. shortly thereafter, the 17-year-old ernst wound up in mississippi where he attended his senior year of high school. that year was 1841. the very morning after the attack on pearl harbor, ernst said i'm not going to high school today. i'm going to the army recruiting center. i want to go join the military and go back and free my people
in germany. he landed early on the beaches of normandy and was part of the team that liberated only to learn that his entire family had been murdered in the holocaust. he vowed never to let it happen again and became a stalwart for u.s. german relations for the rest of his life. still going to deviate, he said editor of the largest circulated newspaper in germany at work regular columns about our relationship. as we finished lunch come our focus turned to the issue of future threats to our respective nation. dr. kramer shared with me that his growing concern about terrorism and radical ideology believing that this would be the biggest challenge of the free world in years ahead. unknown to us as we work within our discussion, the first plane hit the world trade center's north tower.
as i walked into the door and said goodbye, my staff rushed in and said turn on cnn. marsha and i watched with horror at the second plane crash into the second tower in the news reports came in about another missing plane and an explosion at the pentagon. to use the words the 9/11 commission report on that day at that time, the united states became a nation transformed. and that day at our nation's response to the attacks would define my tour in germany. back on the four-star nation to rethink our approach to national security. leanne, once again asked to serve their nation. they were charged with leaving the 9/11 commission to evaluate what happened and how we could prevent it from happening again.
and under their leadership, the commission delivered an unflinching and bipartisan analysis of what went wrong. in many ways, the commission's final report paints a valuable lesson in important historical information related to terrorist act committees in the decade prior to the attacks that remain relevant today to today's threat environment. they offered recommendations that provided the basis forward forms of our intelligent but national security architecture in 2005. this included the creation of a national counterterrorism center and office of the director of national intelligence. little did i know at that time i would one day serve in this position. the intelligence community and i had the privilege to leave today as a result of lead and a result of wheat and the resultant, not
commission. that decision now 12 years later has left us with a more integrated and more technologically advanced than it has ever been. to demonstrate how far we've come, let me paint a picture for you about our national counterterrorism center looks like today. and ctc is a the counterterrorism help for the entire intelligent community. around-the-clock operation seven days a week, 300 xt five days a year. 24 hours on three shifts. second item poke your head into and ctc's operation center and you'll notice a buzz about dignity as officers monitor the latest report from around the globe, including as many as a thousand or more cable reports every single day. open a conference room and
you'll see and ctc officers may be one of several interagency is convened every day to make paint situational awareness across the u.s. government on the latest threats. as you scroll through the hallways, you might bump into a cia officer, fbi agent where local first responder or a military representative for an operations officer all here on rotation at nctc to contribute to a common mission is serve as ambassadors for their home organization. for anyone who has been involved in the standing up for the new government organization or assembly and an interagency team, you know that it was no small feat to realize we had tom's vision. before 9/11, no organization in the u.s. government had access to all information.
now, nctc analysts have direct access to foreign and domestic threat information from networks all across the government pays cia, nsa, fbi, dod, dhs to name a few. before 9/11 there was no single electronic library of terrorism related information. no nctc has a central repository that officials from all around government can access with the click of the key. before 9/11 there were four databases of known and suspected terrorists in 13 watchlist. now we have a single database of terrorists any single watchlist, with instant access by all her agent fees. and before 9/11 there was no concerted effort to integrate ct operation and out and ctc leads efforts to bring all element of state power to bear against ct threads.
is this integrated approach a model for the rest of the intelligence community and replying some of the lessons learned from our counterterrorism efforts to other transnational problems that come the counterintelligence, cyber, transnational organized crime and counter proliferation. as director of national intelligence, and focusing on the same print the bulls. and for sharing come and tell integration in incorporating disparate viewpoints to ensure that the intelligence community, all 17 agencies delivers the best possible intelligence to our policymakers. the united states and allied efforts over the past 17 years have forwarded dozens of plot and thoroughly disrupted terrorist capabilities. with particular degraded the capacity to conduct large-scale 9/11 style external operations. but as far as we've come in as good as we are today, we know that we cannot rest because they
threat landscape has changed dramatically in demands are constant attention. in addition to a complex terror is a landscape that is global, we now face the great power competition, delicate negotiations with pervasive cyberthreat and the troubling use of chemical weapons against civilian in the war-torn rubble as syria and the peaceful page streets of salisbury, in lynn. the complexity of the terror threat today is most evident when you compare it to the centralized large-scale plotting we solve from al qaeda in 2001. today the threat is global. it's less centralized and in many cases harder to detect. and if history has taught us anything, it is that this fight will not in, unfortunately, anytime soon. we have simply entered a new phase in the post 9/11 counterterrorism fight despite significant setbacks in syria
and iraq, isis ability to launch an insurgency carry out terrorist attacks abroad has not yet been sufficiently diminished. we continue to see members of this group are suing develop alarming methods of attack dispersing throughout the globe de-icing many an governed places. meanwhile, al qaeda has evolved as they dealt with the loss of many leaders. today the group's leadership has constant traded in the middle east where they have a greater ability to operate and remain an enduring threat to the united states. in both isis and al qaeda continue to inspire attacks by radicalized homegrown violent extremists. we also face a growing terrorist threat from iran and its terrorist allies. tehran remains the most prominent state sponsor of terrorism in the world. so, as we look to the future, we
must continue to identify encounter drivers -- and regeneration in one of those key drivers is that we had tom's focus on what the task force on extremism and fractals dates. a weak or nonexistent government in governance and fragile and failing states and socioeconomic consequences. all of that terrorist groups -- terrorist groups i've mentioned in unstable regions. they're exploiting degraded local security condition in pursuit of safe haven, pursuit of resources or recruit. these activities remind us of the important if using non-dalit terry lovers, including economic assistance and humanitarian aid to counter terrorist influence and undermine their presence. the bipartisan policy standards work and institute piecework to
study these dynamics and identify elements of a preventive strategy isn't strep into our long-term counterterrorism efforts. but we must maintain our ct pressure, it will be our efforts to address the underlying drivers of terrorism that will ultimately yield success in this generational struggle. ..
to borrow a slightly montford phrase from the bible, well done, good and faithful public servants. thank you. [applause] is welcome the former governor of oklahoma, frank keane. [applause] >> i know we all all waiting to eat so this anticipated to be a two hour and 27 minute address by me will be 47 seconds. the chaplain's comments earlier about the experience of those who have served and sacrificed on 9/11 brings to mind a the story of my own tragic experience as the governor of oklahoma and during the oklahoma city bombing. we had urban search-and-rescue
teams from all over united states including several from the marston metro area and from new york came ray downey who was a deputy chief of the new york fire department who brought the new yorkers who assist us in our time of need. a group of nuns from the various entities of several rosaries and i went out to the side of the tragedy and seeing downey out there i said hey ray are you a catholic? in his own new york way he said a catholic so i gave him this rosary and a cap on for myself. ported over his neck and for those of us that are catholic that's not terribly common but he did. later henry kravis another former oklahoman in new york had an event that is apartment to raise money for the victims and
their across the room was ray downey all gussied up and i walked over to him and i said ray it certainly is wonderful to see you again. then obviously several months since her horrible experience and he said put your hand right here. i put my hand on his chest and he chest and he had that rosary still around his neck. 9/11 was a tragic day for the downey family and for all those firefighters and rescue workers who came to help us in the hama city many of them were killed including ray downey and they never found his body. downey was a wonderful human being, religious, funny, a vital person representative of our fellow citizens who were murdered on that day. i went up there to thank his wife and think obviously his colleagues and the remainder of his team gave me a fabricated cross.
i stood -- have it on my desk in oklahoma city and noble it will always be there because those were memories of wonderful men and women of courage and faith and perseverance who did so much for us and a horrible time in the history of our state. but tonight as we know we are celebrating the lives of two extraordinary people who are patriots. my grandfather from illinois served in the congress one term and didn't run again. he was a democrat. when i was a member of the state house and the state in my state there were any republicans. they were treated like children, seen and not heard so my whole life and politics surrounded the concept that i may not like your bad ideas but i like you and the conversation necessary at every level of government at the state level the federal level and obviously the local level to listen and learn is essential in
a free society as we simply cannot as a society erect barriers between us. the debate should be robust and full and factual and then let the voters vote. we have two honorees this evening or this patriot award. i can't think of any two better people. as a product of culver military academy there's a little bit of indiana and me but you know in lee's case in tom's case and lee was the indiana connection the men of one party and another who saw the wall was important was to simply solve problems and in a look at the 9/11 commission report and it is exactly that. the only people that these two are married who are their wives. nobody else. not their party. their love of country is
unassailable. we have listened to the biographies of these individuals and we have listened and we have read the biographies but when coretta scott king complemented tom in the wonderfully glorious way my old classmate bill clinton all of you know these friendships, the support bases, these mutual respect, is it any wonder that we could not find a better duo than these individuals. as jason said we are going to see a video here shortly and this is my last official run at the bipartisan policy center. i've returned to the ranch. but that said we are going to hear leave it at this time it is
my thrill, joy and honor on all of our behalf's to give the patriot award for this year to this individual that we know so much about and have learned so much about as the gloriously successful governor of new jersey back when they had republicans in new jersey. a gloriously successful governor of mature -- new jersey and a man of every milestone, man of every universe, a man with his wonderful wife who have done so much for their state and for their country. tom if he would step forward i have a special presentation to me, they have of the live poll's -- bipartisan policy center to you. and they want us to stand right here.
[applause] [applause] >> we thought it would be polite if tom would say a couple of things. let me start out by noting that her remember you told me once that you agreed he would never appear with microphones without one another so i do appreciate the indulgence tonight. but lee is watching so i think we have to behave ourselves. i have a couple of questions. i wanted to think about the partnership which is pretty
remarkable and quite powerful. think it just we draw strength from each other but my understanding is he didn't really know one another when the 9/11 commission began so my first question was was the mutual admiration admiration at first i? what was it like when you and lee were brought together at this incredible moment? >> i can't imagine the first sight of me as admiration but i had known lee by reputation. we had maybe shaken hands with that was all. we met for the first time. we were both second choices. the first traces were henry kissinger and senator mitchell. we both agreed neither us would have gotten along without each other if it were mitchell or
kissinger. each party had the same number of votes. you work for two years for the legislature where you couldn't get anything to pass unless you had a party split on as governor and never had a republican state senate. if we would have worked together we would have gotten nothing done so i was accustomed to working policy across party lines. so the first thing i said to lee and something we would tell you if you were here was i didn't know about this. i said to lee, look we were both appointed and you are vice chairman i was chairman but we are equal. we are going to work together and i'm not going to do anything that you don't think is right. my goal is stefan policy and everything else. and i thought that was a normal
thing to do. lee told me afterwards, he said i was so surprised. he said you know and congress the chairman is everything and the vice chairman is nothing. so when you said that i was both happy and shocked. anyway we worked that way all the way through. leah and i agreed on everything all the way through and we didn't do anything where we didn't both agree. >> i mentioned earlier that people have taken for granted the 9/11 commission success and when i look at the list there were some pretty partisan people on that commission and i remember right up front of course i remember you saying at one point the commission was designed to fail. reflect on that talk about what you did to try to make sure that didn't happen. >> lee and i when we were
chairman of vice chairman didn't get a lot of credit that the commissioners were terrific each and every one of them. richard, thank you so much. [applause] the second thing is what i call the wind in our sails were the families of 9/11. they were there all the way. they supported us when we testified. they lobbied for a report. they gave us more time and more money when we needed it. they were an incredible group of people that suffered the worst loss than a human being could ever suffer in most cases and came back to work in general for the public good and member of the family member they have lost. is mary hear the chairman plaxo postrel.
[applause] i see them both. those two were housewives who sat down at congressional offices came to the white house when necessary and whatever they could to get that report will rid man through. now what is your question again? >> i was asking to comment on the idea that this was not a bunch of centrists. these were people with. intense views in one of the people that were import those of the bipartisan policy center or not they nonpolicy party sees
center but progressive views that could still respect one another and call -- find common cause. >> we agreed to do certain things of this commission. because i was chairman i got invitations to "meet the press". i remember telling russet that i would not go on the show without lee hamilton. you don't know washington well but we don't allow guests to invite guests. and i said we'll get somebody else. half an hour later he called back and said if you'll come on you and lee are very welcome. so we end i went on together. after that the commission did the same thing. it was like noah's ark, to buy two so than a republican was asked they brought it democrat in the democrat was us they brought a republican.
they would sit next to each other. we sat in hearings and everywhere else and we became very close friends in the process. people who lost their partisanship, not right away but over time to the extent that we just wanted to do a job and respected the person sitting next to somebody who is equally dedicated to their job. you've got to work at it. >> , think you understood this to be a very public moment and good politicians are often great storytellers. my favorite reflection of the commission report was from john updike who wrote in "the new yorker" the king james bible language is a lone masterpiece at least until this year's 9/11 commission report.
you understood early on that this was going to be an intensely public affair. how did you prepare the group in yourselves for that kind of scrutiny? >> we had to deal with it not a in the normal manner producing a government report. first of all when we hired a staff we hired three historians starting with the director of the staff because we thought we were writing a report about history and for history. we have those people working on it. we didn't think it was going to be issued simply by the government. they call them and said howdy do these do these things normally? it's available people and if they can get in for $40 or something. he said that's not what we want so we called academic people that i knew and i said he could give us the fastest time of production. you could give us the lowest price to the public.
we will let you have what we label the official copy. the government got wind of it and called up and said that's illegal. you can't do that. you can. as many copies as you want but this is the official copy that leah and i are going to sign. so we got it very cheaply matter of days after we finished it. available to every single person in the country at a very low price. so that's sort of where we proceeded to make sure everything we had done was available to everybody. >> the final question before we share with lee for a couple of moments. you have been described by everybody as an optimist. i wanted to ask you what is it that makes you optimistic about the future? >> i have been living for 80
years in this country as an american. i've always been an enormous optimistic about this country. i've never known anyplace that's any better than these people. they are the best in the world that i have.and it's easy to look out and see problems. we have got more of them than i remember, a lot of them. but you know we are also the people who can find solutions. i believe that and i believe whatever the problem is sooner or later good people are going to get together. they are going to find solutions. that's the way it's always been this country and that's the way it will always be in this country. [applause] [applause] >> i would just close by saying working with you has been one of
the great honors of my career and it's terrific to be of a share this moment with you so thank you. [applause] jason is going to judaism but one of the great privileges and pleasures of my life is working with lee hamilton. lee hamilton is one of nature's gentleman and we became friends. not a month goes by that we don't talk to each other thing since the commission and he is one of the most first-class people i've ever met in my life. >> so after that lee was really disappointed that he couldn't come and somehow he with great generosity got to indiana university today to make a video and the made a 27 minute video.
with the courageous dedication you have done the awkward job of editing this something that felt more appropriate for the moment so we are going to share some comments from lee now and tom will be joined to talk about the task force that he is currently leading. >> good evening and thank you all for being here tonight. i'm honored to be among you. i'm sorry i can't be with you personally but it's unavoidable. i will do the next best thing and talk to you electronically. i'm honored, very honored to receive this patriot award from the bipartisan policy center and it's especially pleasing to me
to receive it alongside tom kaine. there may be a greater american than tom kaine. i just haven't run into him myself. i deeply cherish his friendship and i consider it a high privilege to have worked with him and to receive this honor from the bipartisan policy center with tom. after the terrible tragedy of 9/11 the american people wanted solutions. the commission took the 9/11 commission as its mandate first of all to find out the facts and secondly to try to suggest some conclusions and solutions. what happened on that terrible
day 17 years ago today, and we hope of course it will never be repeated. i want to thank several people. first i want to thank my fellow commissioners. what a marvelous group to work with. tom kean and richard bernice e. bob terry, brent fielding, john lehman, jamie ghirelli, tim roemer, jim thompson, they were just superb to work with short of them contributing significantly to the work and the success of the commission. the members of the commission joined me in recognizing the families of 9/11. they turned their grief into
constructive and positive action they used it to push us, for answers. they were supportive. they were critical at times but always valuable associates as we pursued our mandate for finding the facts and solutions. tonight we remember their loss, heartbreaking as it was and we honor their particular courage and their marvelous reaction. they have turned it into a singular service for the united states of america and to the welfare of its citizens. in the 10 years that tom and i have worked on projects at the bipartisan policy center, we have accomplished a great deal
but he and i have come to appreciate greatly the bipartisan policy center. we live in a time when people are worried about the polarized politics of the country. we see a lot of centrifugal forces operating to drive us apart. the polarization is a very difficult environment in public policy and the public dialogue to work within. but the bipartisan policy center has shown the way for this country and for a lot of other groups with the themes of collaboration and cooperation and bipartisanship. i commend men for that leadership. it has been a powerful example for this country at a time of deep division and polarization.
so i am grateful to the bipartisan policy center and the president for giving tom and me the chance to continue working on some of these important issues. we are very grateful to the carnegie corporation for supporting our work without which it could not be done. we all of us are keenly aware of the fact that there is a lot more work to be done. i'm also pleased tonight to see the release of the first report of the task force on extremism. 17 years ago today as we all recognize we had they gravest
attack on our country, perhaps in its history but certainly one of the gravest attacks. we have made a lot of progress since then. we have strengthened our homeland protections, we have gone after the terrorists effectively. we have killed and eliminated a lot of bad at others. but there is a lot more to be done as all of us recognize. we have to continue to use force to attack and obliterate terrorists. we have to continue and do an even better job of protecting our homeland where i think the record has been very good indeed since that awful day. but new threats to our security continue to emerge in new generations continue to feel the impact of extremism and violence. for that reason we are tom and i
very pleased to have the privilege of continuing to serve by leading the task force on extremism. here in conjunction with the support of the united states institute of peace and in response from the mandate by the congress. i would certainly want to wait the president nancy linborg, the u.s. ip chair thomas three. they are a talented group of people. they are a delight to work with and all aspects. because of their contributions our work will be immensely improved and helpful in the years ahead.
[applause] please welcome the distinguished members. stephen hadley former senator kelly i got -- kelly ayotte and nancy linborg. [applause] >> i hope you'll continue to enjoy your meal that has been distributed over the course of the meeting. we'll try to get everyone through the dessert course. we are going to spend 15 or 20 minutes talking about the report and reflections on the report. we will probably did have enough time for just two rounds of questions and let me begin if i
can secretary kean with you you. there's not been a major terror attack in the u.s. since 9/11. osama bin laden is dead. the islamic state caliphate lies in rubble so what is the problem here? why should policymakers be talking about her venting extremism now and why do all the things he could do why would you pick up the co-chairmanship of this task force? >> when we did the 9/11 report we talked about three things. one was obviously that is sanctuary in afghanistan to reach those people and destroy them. secondly we didn't want this to ever happen again or anything like it. the second recommendation was to harden our defenses and create
people of that stature to coordinate our intelligence operation to make sure we have the best in the world. the third thing we said was we have got to do some preventive measures to get out the ideology itself so we don't create more terrorists. the first two we did. we have done a pretty successfully. the last, not so much. so this is really in a sense a continuation of the 9/11 work. it's to look and see where terrorists come from in fragile states and see if we can do something about the breeding ground. he they said in the report would not have had an attack at those terrorists hadn't been allowed to organize and be left alone for three years in afghanistan.
if they hadn't been able to do that they couldn't have pulled it off. we shouldn't allow that ever again. this is an effort and a continuation of our work. sooner or later these people as they continue to spread and they are are 10 times more terrorist attacks last year than they were after 9/11. find a way to prevent terrorism and a way to prevent terrorism is to work with these failed states or fragile states and make sure they are strong enough to prevent terrorism. >> senator ayotte let me ask you this question. almost every think tank session to go to these days talk about national security challenge some people say what we have seen is the emergence and the reemergence of competition with russia and china. where does extremism and combating extremism ranking your view compared to the problem in
china and i think many americans given the problems presented by russia and china why should we pay attention to what is happening in the middle east and north africa? >> first of all i just want to say is a huge honor to be on this task force with governor kean and congressman hamilton and their incredible leadership. why is this important? first of all we know from the national defense strategy that yes strategic competition is a huge threat to us from china and russia but also identified in that strategy which we all know in this room and governor kean knows all too well it describes terrorism and extremism as a persistent condition. unfortunately it is a persistent condition as the director of
national intelligence coats said. we are entering a new phase in terrorism in these areas that we are focusing on on this commission the sahell the near east and the horn of africa. unfortunately these are very fragile areas and their other fragile areas around the world where we see the continual reading of extremism and terrorism that leads to a persistent threat to not only our homeland that to our allies and of course really what they try to hit on 9/11 which was our way of life. what we have also seen is the strategic competition. we have seen countries like russia and china in particular exploiting fragile states and exploiting their fragility to the harm of our security and the
harm of the international order. we see that in syria and russia and the way that china handles africa and what they are doing there. these two very important national security issues are intertwined. they impact our security and this idea of making sure that we prevent things from happening before we have to deal with them , that is what dan coats wakes up everyday to do. anything that we can do to help in advance before he gets that intelligence is cert late resources well spent and that is essentially the purpose of this commission. >> president linborg the task force is charged with not only preventing terrorism but particularly addressing the underlying causes of extremism in fragile states. why is it so important to focus
on fragile states and when we talk about them what are the conditions in fragile states to fight extremism? >> thank you. every fragile state is fragile in his own way but what we are seeing our shared characteristics. they are usually states where the social contract between the ferment and its people have broken down and you usually have highly fragmented populations, injustice, lack of opportunity both economic as well as social and political so you have a large disenfranchised and agreed population is deals they have two choices and estate that is not responsive to their needs. this is fertile ground for extremist groups to recruit, to
provide an alternative than what we have seen us over the last decade and a half the rise in extremism particularly in fragile states and increasingly with the goal to hold territories whether it's al-shabaab in somalia, boko haram and nigeria and of course isis and nigeria and iraq. so in addition to military capability to degrade their ability to hold territory for us to get ahold of this we need to work in partnerships with fragile states, with the national partners to really understand and address those underlying causes. >> let me ask a follow-up question if i can. the situation in the states is very complex. we have been working for now 17 years in afghanistan, some 15 years in iraq and i think a lot of americans wonder can we really make a difference?
do you we know what we are doing here and are there examples where we have been able to help fragile states from falling into conflict and extremism or help fragile states become more resistant. >> one of the things we are doing on the task force is to bring forward the many lessons from both the world of counterterrorism and violent extremism as well as learning about what goes on in fragile states. we are seeing that sometimes at some national level there is success in helping communities or regions become more resilient to the recruitment efforts of extremists. one example and it's a mixed example and as he said it's highly complicated is indonesia. even though they have had a great outflow of fighters in
syria and iraq there are also examples of communities within tunisia has -- who have resisted the terrorist movement. one of the most important countries to have navigated the turmoil over the last decade. >> i asked a lot of americans would say why is it that we have to do everything am particularly why is it that we have to carry these burdens? what is the potential for other countries either in the region or international institutions to contribute to this as well? >> well i think that this is obviously a threat to us but it's a threat to our allies and a threat to the world. in terms of the ability to live in peace and international order
and rule of law. i think one of the things that we are going to focus on in this task force and are focusing on his coalition that can be built out only with our nato partners that the arab nations and others because this is something that i have a firm belief that the united states is the indefensible nation when it comes to leading in this regard but we do need partners and we should seek out partners. we should not have to do this alone and that is one of the goals we have is a commission. frankly we are not going to be effective if we try to go alone on issues that we are dealing with the fragile states, with extremism because this is something that we need local partners on the ground. that is one of the emphasis we have seen in our initial court -- reporter. we need that commitment from the local partners when we are working with a country to be
effective rather than just thinking as the united states would consult with all ourselves >> governor kean last question for you. you and congressman hamilton were very effective in getting the nine alleged -- 9/11 commission recommendations implemented. what are the obstacles you see in your way of getting the reclamation's that are going to come out of this task force in preventing extremism, getting them implemented and is it possible in the current environment to do as the co-chairs of told the rest of the members of the task force that you want to develop a bipartisan consensus in support of the strategy that can be supported by both the congress and the president? is that possible in the current environment? >> yes, think it's possible.
i was encouraged today we were meeting with security people at the white house and the administration is getting a national security plan. the first thing they said to me when i got there was we thought is we started to move through this process that we would find bipartisanship. you know we didn't find any. when you are dealing with national security issues bipartisanship and disappears. that's something we should all work together on. we had it easier frankly during 9/11 because everyone is focused on 9/11. everyone was so shocked by what happened. the families and everybody wanted recommendations and changes went through which would make sure it never happened again so we had a tremendous
wind at our back and getting recommendations from congress. that was our position. but we overcame the opposition's. we had such a force on our side. the problem we are going to have people are very distracted. there are so many things hitting everybody every day. i can imagine serving in congress today and being hit by the issues day after day after day. you want to address one and you get hit by six others. somehow we will have to do convince the bipartisan majority of congress that this is important to get there at attention. this is important enough to keep their attention to give bipartisan action going. that's not going to be easy. i think if we can really get their attention and gets the
administration and congress understands that this is very much in the public interest and secondly it's much less expensive than the strategy we have been following so far. thirdly it's deeply deeply in the interest of the future of this country to start dealing with these states and dealing with these terrorists and before they get organized enough to attack us. if we can get the attention of the congress and the president then i think we can get it done. not going to be easy and we need everybody's help. >> thank you very much panel. this concludes the formal portion of our program. you should have on your seat to copy of the bipartisan task force report that i hope you'll read it. it's worth reading and it's available on u.s. ip web site. this task force will now turn towards developing specific recommendations and building on this initial task force report. though should be available in
january or shortly thereafter and you should look for a report, final report in that timeframe. i want to congratulate governor kean and congressman hamilton for their patriot award. i want to thank them for their wise and effective leadership of this task force. they are the reason a lot of us signed up for this duty and we are delighted to have you. i want to thank the bipartisan policy center for cohosting this wonderful evening and i think we should all join on the 17th anniversary of 9/11, let's let the memory of those who lost their lives that day recommit us tonight to work together to ensure that this country never suffers such a loss again. thank you all for coming. [applause]
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