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two, the senate judiciary committee hears testimony from christine blasey ford, who has accused brett kavanaugh of sexual assault in high school. brett kavanaugh will also testify. we will show you as much as we can on c-span two until the senate returns at noon. , we will have full coverage of the hearing with christine blasey ford and brett kavanaugh that begins at 10:00 eastern. next, a look at the u.s. senate race in tennessee between marsha blackburn and former democratic governor. they are running for the seat of retiring senator bob corker. in their first debate, they discussed the supreme court nomination of brett kavanaugh, immigration, and tax policy,
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among other topics. this is one hour. >> good evening, everyone. welcome to columbia university and the tennessee senate debate. we want to briefly explain tonight's rules. >> both candidates will be given a chance to answer all questions. the first candidate will get 60 seconds to answer. we will alternate which
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candidate goes first. audience has been instructed to remain quiet and not to applaud except right now when we welcome the candidates. congressman marsha blackburn and the former governor. [applause] >> thank you. welcome to you both. we begin with our first question and it goes to congressman blackburn. what do you think is the most pressing issue facing tennesseans? i want to begin by saying thank you to cumberland
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university for hosting us and the league of women voters and channel five. thank you for giving us the opportunity to talk to tennesseans about the issues that are pressing and so important to them. as i talked to tennesseans around the state, the number one thing they talk about is making certain we keep the jobs and the economy growing. tax cuts are working in tennessee and we hear story after story from people about how important it is. i know phil said he would have voted against the tax cuts, but when you are out and about in our community and you see the economic growth and development, this is what they are talking about. in scott county they said they are advertising for people to come in and work because of the jobs growth. .his is their number one issue a healthy economy, good for all tennesseans.
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i think the number one issue has got to be the overarching issue of how dysfunctional washington has become. so many issues that affect tennesseans economically are stalled because of the lack of ability of washington to engage with issues. it has become hyper partisan and almost impossible to get things done and move forward. that, this idea that somehow your party affiliation ought to determine everything about how you think about things and approach things is one of the things wrong with it. campaign a lot in this about these crazy hours -- these crazy ideas that if i go to washington i will turn my back
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on a lifetime of thinking for myself and become some kind of political lackey. that is not going to happen for a bunch of reasons, one of which is -- i think a lot of the problem in washington is the leadership we have now. paul ryan or nancy pelosi or chuck schumer, they are not doing the job. and when i amd elected and go to washington, i'm not going to be voting for chuck schumer. >> 32nd rebuttal. -- 30 second rebuttal. >> we know phil had a choice. he could run as an independent or republican. he is running as a democrat. schumer ifwith chuck you were to go to washington. back to tennesseans. this campaign is about them. the number one issue is a healthy job and economy and
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healthy communities and making certain our border is secure so our communities are secure. we know people vote with chuck schumer -- we know he will vote with chuck schumer because he is already bought and paid for by chuck schumer. >> the next question is related to tax cuts. americans benefited from tax cuts but those have contributed to increases in the federal deficit. how concerned are you about our national debt and what measures will you support to cut the deficit. >> the tax cuts. way that was handled as a perfect example of the dysfunction in washington. the idea of tax reform was a great idea. what happened when it got to the congress was the hard part. the reform got put aside and the tax cuts is what went forward.
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you have to do both sides of that equation to make it work and not drive the deficit up. $1.5tax cut program adds trillion to the national debt. there are ways of addressing that. about theked recently idea of holding spending constant. do not try to reduce it. let the revenues grow into that. that would take about six years to get back to zero. it isdo not try to reduce it. something possible to do if the congress has a willingness to make it happen. >> thank you, governor. death orou talk about deficits, phil called barack obama a transformational leader. he did transform our nations debt from 10 show in to $21 trillion. to get it under control, three
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things we have to do. number one, a balanced budget amendment. balancing the budget without a tax increase. it is something we need to do. we need to make certain we have spending reductions. we have to continue to grow the economy. we are at 4.1% gdp growth. jobless claims are the lowest they have been in 50 years. in tennessee our median income is growing faster than any other state in the south east. we are one of the top five in the nation. that is good news. when it comes to tax cuts and we look at tennessee, one of the reasons we are attracting jobs is we do not have a state income tax. i let that fight when i was in the state senate. people around the state joined me. we defeated the state income tax . that is good for tennesseans.
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feels that he would've voted against the tax cuts. chuck schumer has bought and paid for his campaign. he would vote to takes the tax cuts away. >> governor, rebuttal? >> this issue of balancing the budget, i give the congressman credit for organizing protests around the capital when income tax came up, but i'm the one that had to settle down and make a bunch of difficult decisions to get us through difficult years. my time as governor embrace the entire greatest -- great recession. we had to make tough calls and choices. the first year i was there we had to cut expenses 9% across-the-board, except k-12. what it takes to keep these things under control is not just talking about it and talking a
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good game and protesting against somebody proposing a tax, but willingness to do the hard work and make the hard choices that i have done in the business world and as mayor and as governor to run the government in a way you do not need these taxes. >> we want to turn to health care. more thanls suggest half of all americans support the affordable care act, the highest percentage since 2010. what role should the federal government play in health care and how you make sure all tennesseans have access to affordable health care? >> i think that is the right question to ask. how you make sure all tennesseans have access to affordable health care? what we have seen happen in tennessee is you have had 160,000 tennesseans that cannot afford to buy health insurance
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and they have to pay the penalty. here is the kicker. ist is so bad with this 100,000 of those families have household incomes of $50,000 or less. the affordable care act does not work. book hen phil's supports a single-payer government run health care system. that is where he thinks we need to be moving. we know that when chuck schumer and the democrats try to push that he would be right there with them supporting government run single-payer health care that would take half of your taxes to pay for that. >> governor? >> when the affordable care act was first proposed i was not for it. i criticized it and president obama got mad at me over that. when it passed and became the law of the land, i said what we
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do now is supported and tried to make it work. i think this action that is going on of people trying to actively sabotage this by modifying it in ways that make it more difficult to have it work is unconscionable. tennesseans0,000 who defend on -- who depend on the affordable care act for insurance. there almost 11 million nationwide. in effort to sabotage that makes no sense at all. it is cruel to the people looking at it that way. brags about how she opposed the affordable care act and has voted against it 60 or 64 times. wrong, it isthing what is wrong with congress in a microcosm. you are sitting up there and for the last 16 years your better wonderful health care system
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paid by the federal government which cost you nothing, and in the meantime if you are voting to take health care away from 250,000 tennesseans with no idea how to replace it for what our political and partisan reasons. we will give you a 62nd rebuttal. >> it is important to note the affordable care act astro-med driven up the cost of health insurance in tennessee 176%. we have tennesseans that cannot even buy something that is a ca compliant. what would be most beneficial to tennesseans is to get the affordable care act off the books, to open up the health insurance marketplace, to make certain we have a prostate line purchase of health insurance so that individuals can buy a product that suits their needs
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at a price they can afford. that is what individuals want. when you look at access to health care, making certain that hospitals have access to high-speed internet, that they will be able to do telemedicine. that they will be able to do digital and remote monitoring so that they have that daily access. >> that is a great segue to the next question. the state of tennessee has the highest rate of rural hospital closings in the country. failureieve the state's to expose care under the affordable care act. what will you do to ensure rural tennesseans have access to health care? >> it is a real issue. when you get into these rural communities, just simple access has become an enormous problem.
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there are several things you can do. , the future for those rural hospitals is likely to be in some association with an urban hospital so they can work together. there are things you do in the reimbursement policies that make that more or less practical. i think a lot of the future for health care in these communities is going to be forming these associations with the larger urban areas to keep the hospitals they have open and keep the abilities to get the doctors in these communities and provide the services people need for these communities to live there and worked there. >> congressman? >> i was talking to one of my county mayors. his comment was pointed and precise. yearsd during the obama
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they forgot about those bus in rural america on a host of different issues. .ndeed they did our state has suffered because -- we were the test case for andary clinton and fill -- phil gave her money for her campaign. are nineave seen hospitals closed. the 10th one is getting ready to close. what wel mayors say need is access to 21st century health care concepts. we want to make certain we have our community health centers, our hospitals, that they have telemedicine, that they have digital imaging, that they have the ability to bring people into triage.
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number one on their list -- freestanding emergency rooms and that is something we are currently working on. add is we have over 200 community health centers in our state. thatis a good program helps get health care to these communities. yourrebuttal -- >> rebuttal? gov. bredesen: i am intimately familiar with tenncare. had nothing to do with its inception, and it had some -- in keeping girl hospitals open. i think this -- rural hospitals open. they could've structured that to avoid some of the problems with tenncare. it is a real problem.
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>> the single biggest health crisis facing tennessee is the opioid crisis. which you support the legalization of medical marijuana as an alternative to prescription painkillers? rep. blackburn: thank you so much. the opioid epidemic as one that affects everybody. i have come into this as a mother and a friend, and have watched so many people suffer. i have a friend out whose child has an opioid issue. she said every time the phone rings and she does not recognize the phone number, her heart skips a beat. manyis how this affects so of our families. this,e are doing about more resources to local law enforcement. they are on the front line. they say the number one issue
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day are dealing with is fentanyl and heroin. most of this is coming in from opposesand phil protecting the border. chuck schumer will say do not vote to secure that southern border. that is where those drugs are coming from. >> governor? gov. bredesen: this opioid crisis is a real human tragedy, and i have talked to so many people who have lost friends and .oved ones and neighbors 1700 people a year at the moment. it is going to be an issue in this campaign is my component has been one of the significant enablers of this problem we have had appeared when she went to congress 16 years ago, she got friendly with the big pharmaceutical companies. she passed a stealth bill that
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basically took much of the enforcement ability the dea had to enforce these issues, away. you do not have to believe me that this was a problem. "60 minutes" did a whole section on it calling out the congressman. there are some unintended .onsequences, we will fix it no fix has been in place. one of the first things i will do is to file a bill to undo what the congressman did two and a half to three years ago to give law enforcement the ability to begin fighting this. they are the front lines on some of these illegal drugs, certainly on many of the illegal ways in which these opioids are made available to people. it is just way too important of an issue to defang law enforcement in their way to deal with it. >> 30 seconds. rep. blackburn: what he said is
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false. voted on and passed unanimously in the house and senate and was a three-year bipartisan process. every deal dealing with opioids has been a bipartisan piece of legislation. what we know is that prescribing limits work. we know that law enforcement needs more tools. we need to make certain that there is money for education. so many times i hear from people , if i had only known. talk trade. both of you have said to varying degrees you oppose the tariffs that have hit tennessee farmers and autoworkers. what programs would you support if this trade war with china continues to escalate? is anredesen: this and i think that the best thing to do is to
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convince the president to sort strategy.f of this the tariffs we have right now are hurting tennessee badly. they are a job killing tax on tennessee businesses. walmart is about to put its prices up on a whole range of prices because of the tariffs. that will hurt people in tennessee as well. there are trade issues. we have issues with china and intellectual property and ways of doing business. they need to be done one by one on a surgical basis, not by taking a next to them. it makes -- an axe to them. people in the automotive industry are worried sick. i trust the information a lot more from companies than i do from washington. rep. blackburn: when i talk with
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our farmers and producers and manufacturers, they are all very concerned, and rightly so. i am for freedom, free people, and free markets. im not a fan of tariffs and never have been. china has had a trade war on us for decades and if we are in a trade war, for goodness sakes, let's make sure we win this. i hope that we get these tariffs over and done with, because they are not good for tennessee. when you talk with soybean farmers, cotton farmers, those that are producing pork, they will express their anxiety. one of the things we have been able to do is advocate for them and to continue to push so that we move to trade agreements. they want new markets. they want to see the european markets opened up. they are pleased there is an agreement with mexico.
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they want to get this agreement finished with canada. they want to know that we are going to be expanding their markets and that they are not going to be shortchanged. we also know that it is barack obama and the trade policies of the last few years, or bill called him a world changer. he changed a lot of the jobs from exits he -- he moved a lot of the jobs to mexico. gov. bredesen: farmers are feeling it. the automotive industry, which we have spent 30 to 35 years, we have all invested in over the years, is scared to death. we are in an enormous lake economically powerful -- indoor enormouslynomic --
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economically powerful position. >> can you name one of the youident's policies that support and one that you oppose? we will begin with you, congressman. rep. blackburn: the one that i opposed -- i will give you two that i have not been in agreement with him on. one is the tariffs and the other is on spending. our debt and our deficit, our foral deficit is too high me and i have voted against the spending measures because of that. ofgree with him on so much what he has done with foreign policy. getting isis on the run in syria , fully funding our military, and i tell you, with fort campbell, the men and women in uniform, having lived through president obama's administration with not enough money to get
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them the readiness and the skills and the deployment equipment that they needed, and watching that some of those men and women in uniform need those needs to be met. our veterans need those needs to be met. >> governor? gov. bredesen: certainly there are things he has done i support. he is handling north korea is different than our previous presidents, but we have had three fail miserably in trying to solve that problem. i am willing to give him some elbowroom to try something different in doing that. i think his inclinations to really work at trying to find ways to cut back regulations, i probably not -- would not agree with how that works. the underlying impulse to cut back is important. i saw as governor and dealing with washington, we are getting more and more like the eu every year where everything is
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bureaucratic and paper-based. we need to move away from that to restore some vigor to our economy. opposing, we have spoken of tariffs and i certainly think he is wrong there. i am really concerned about this working to drive wedges between us and some of our best and longest term friends, some of the western european countries, .rance and germany and the like at the same time, cozying up to russia, which is certainly not our friend. i wish he would flip that around and cozy up to some of our long term and allies and be particularly tough on that country which is an enemy of the united states. >> congressman? phil gaveburn: hillary clinton $435,000 and she
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presided over the worst foreign-policy we have seen. another thing i agree with president trump on is draining the swamp and cleaning out washington, sending power and responsibility back to the people, getting taxes so that people have more money in their pockets. one of the things that is really nice, the president listens to people. .> thank you on thursday we are likely to hear from supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh as well as dr. christine blasey ford. given what you know, would you vote to confirm the edge kavanaugh to the high court? time iedesen: during the was governor, i selected and appointed an awful lot of judges . based on that experience, what is going on now with this kavanaugh nomination in washington on the part of both parties disgusts me. there is no other word for it.
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and seriousrtant obligation of the constitution of the u.s., they turned it into a circus. -- we now have 90 or 91 senators who have announced for they have heard the testimony who they are for. the congresswoman announced being for kavanaugh almost within minutes of him being pointed -- appointed, as if we do not need any hearings. i think you need to listen to everyone, including dr. ford. when that is over, make a decision based on their competence, their ethics, and their temperament. that is what i intend to do. >> congressman? rep. blackburn: i think every woman who makes an accusation should be heard. we know that hearing is set for thursday. we now know that the vote to move judge kavanaugh out of committee is going to take place on friday. if i were in the senate, i would
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vote yes to move judge kavanaugh forward. and to send that vote to the floor, i would vote to confirm him. he is an eminently qualified jurist. he has served well on the federal court. what we see taking place right now is a pr stunt by the democrats. it is character assassination and this is something that is dirty politics at its worst. governor thereas was an issue where sexual harassment claims doubled one year. your paper wrote about it. the ap wrote about it, different people, and what they chose to do was to shred some of the documents so these women's voice would never be heard. they died in that shredder. their voices were not heard.
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the reason was, this is what happens when men and women are in the workplace together. these issues arise. that is an inappropriate response. also said that there is nothing here to be covered up. kavanaugh, i would vote for. >> governor? gov. bredesen: that is a total mischaracterization of what happened. i have a zero-tolerance policy and have always had on this. we encourage people to come forward and i'm glad the number of reported cases where people came forward increased in that process. the issue she is referring to was an issue of trying to protect these women so that when they talk to somebody about their experiences, there was not the freedom to put it on the front page of the newspaper the next morning. we are trying to protect people and get them to come forward. >> this next question comes from elizabeth ramirez, a junior at
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cumberland university. she was born in mexico and is one of 30 or so dreamers and rolled at the school. she wants to know what you think -- and rolled at the school -- enrolled at the school. should they be given citizenship or a path to citizenship? rep. blackburn: thank you for the question. there has been an offer by the president, and the democrats led by chuck schumer said they don't want it. it would have given a pass to legal is it -- path to legalization for dreamers. i know when phil bredesen gets to d.c., he will be voting with chuck schumer. there should be a path to legalization for dreamers. at the same time, we need to secure the southern border so that we are making sure we end
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the inflow of drugs, we end inflow of gangs and sex traffickers. we need to do away with sanctuary city policies. the need to make sure that we are ending the visa diversity lottery. we need to make sure we are ending chain migration and protecting the sovereignty of this nation. >> governor bredesen? gov. bredesen: the united states is absolutely entitled to secure its borders as a matter of our national security and national policy. i support that fully. we were one of the first states to send troops to the arizona border to help with that securing. during the time i was there, we reversed the policy that my predecessor republican governor sundquist put in place to give driver's licenses to everyone, irrespective of their legal status. these dreamers, though, i think
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we have a moral obligation to them. they are people who were brought here not of their own choosing. virtuallyn many cases americans in the sense that they speak the language, this is the home they know. they have no more connection to guatemala or anywhere else than i do. you have these young people at a stage in life when they are thinking about, do i have a career, do i start a family, and so on, to leave them hanging out there like they are now not understanding their status, i think is immoral and we need to get beyond it. i blame both parties here. both parties need to get together. this issue can be solved in isolation without tying a lot of other things to it. the public broadly supports dealing with this issue, to stop this in washington, and to get on with the business and solve this problem. >> congressman. rep. blackburn: there was
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bipartisan support in the house on this issue, but the senate is dysfunctional. that is the reason i am running. had,aca solution i have the house has twice passed that. the senate has not been able to pass that. on this issue of the driving certificates, phil passed legislation that gave 51,000 illegal aliens driving artificates, made our state magnet for driving certificates for these illegal aliens. >> thank you. the white house recently announced the u.s. would only accept 30,000 refugees next year , the lowest number since 1980. should the u.s. and state of tennessee continue to accept refugees and if so, under what conditions? gov. bredesen: i think that is an area that is fundamentally a political decision.
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something, a decision we are entitled to make and the president is entitled to make. it is a very different issue than the illegal immigration issue, which has built up over time. i support the idea that whoever is president can set the standards. i happen to feel like we ought to be more generous to some of these refugees than that, but i certainly respect the right of whoever is president to make those kinds of determinations. separate this immigration problem out into the various pieces that it is, and deal with them in an intelligent way. lumping them all together as immigration in general gets us nowhere. the idea of a comprehensive approach i do not think will go anywhere. >> thank you. congressman?
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rep. blackburn: the issue with our refugees, i think secretary pompeo and ambassador haley are doing a great job when it comes to addressing the issues that we are dealing with, whether it is the u.n. or the department of state. here in tennessee, we have a ds, andie with the kur those that have come to kurdistan have a presence in middle tennessee. a bipartisan cochair -- for the kurdish caucus, and work on the issues that face this community that we have here in middle tennessee. when you look at refugees, there is a group of individuals that we need to put at the very top of the list. this is the men and women who have worked with our u.s. military and with our state
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department, serving as interpreters, serving as guides in these regions. those are the ones that we need to make certain get into the united states and are going to be having our support as they work through coming into our country. they have served us well. they have helped us well. we should be there to help and support them. >> governor? gov. bredesen: tennessee has for a long time been a warmly welcoming place for refugees from various parts of the world. it has gone back a long way. of the services that we provide were ones that were in part funded or associated with in some ways various kinds of federal programs. underlying my commitment to make sure those programs remain in place, so when we have refugees
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that come to the state we have the appropriate tools to help them. >> in the aftermath of recent mass shootings the debate for gun control has taken control. and whatyour views specific proposals do you support? rep. blackburn: when we talk tennessee,ontrol in tennesseans know we can protect the second amendment and continue to perfect -- the text our people. they know -- protect our people. they know that taking away gun rights or putting in place gun control is not something that makes our communities safer. they fully appreciate and realize that. now, we also know that the democrats in d.c. are focused on taking away your second amendment rights. that is something that is paramount for them. is ae for phil bredesen
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vote for the democrats, for chuck schumer, who has bought and paid for this campaign. they are going to give you judges like sonja sotomayor, who says she does not think owning a gun is a fundamental right. >> governor? gov. bredesen: let me just underline that i am and have been a strong supporter of the second amendment. it is an important right of in acans you did i grew up rural community and started going hunting when i was 10 years old. i got a 22 for my 16th birthday and have been a gun owner all of my life. i also believe one of the ways you preserve these rights is to put reasonable rules in place so they are exercised in a responsible way. i value our first amendment rights, you cannot fire in a crowded theater. there are some sensible things guns, do when it comes to
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specifically relating to the school shootings, they make a lot of sense. i believe the background checks are important and they should be expanded to include all gun sales at, the gun show loophole. s it's to benci properly funded -- ncu needsis needs to be prop -- ncis needs to be properly funded. i would like to see some judicial process with somebody who is clearly not mentally equipped to own those weapons, can be dealt with and forbidden to do that. that would have been a theificant factor in two of last three school shootings and could have protected from those as well. >> congressman? rep. blackburn: some of the things i support is putting mental health into the system,
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hardening our schools. i have supported legislation that would make the red flags on mental health in the next system . i am also supported by the nra. i am endorsed by the nra. i have an a rating of the nra. we each sought the endorsement of and a. they rated me and endorsed me. d.l got a >> speaking about the crumbling infrastructure, do you think reinvesting in our infrastructure is important, and how do we pay for these and great -- improvements? gov. bredesen: i think infrastructure investment is very important. during the time i was governor, saw a number of the issues that exist in terms of dk infrastructure.
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--re are parts -- dk ink decaying infrastructure. that are parts suffering from not having an adequate amount. the approach that makes the most sense is to do what i did when i was mayor and trying to get money for various projects, which was get specific about the projects. not, i want money for education but i want to build a school here of this size. congress can put some specific proposals together and you could garner support for putting these things in the budget and getting them paid for, and start to make some big inroads into the infrastructure problems. >> congressman? rep. blackburn: i can tell you this. in this campaign, i have driven over 50,000 miles around our beautiful and wonderful state. i will tell you, there is some
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road work that we need to get done. hil was governor, he drained the road fund and use that to pay for other programs in the general fund. if you are sitting in traffic a lot of times, this is the reason, because there were not a not a lotthere were of road funds used and not a lot of projects started during that time. when you talk about the federal highway trust fund, one of the things that people will tell you is look, the place to start is getting rid of the waste, fraud, and abuse within these funds, and making certain that what you are going to see is money that comes in for a purpose, is actually used for that purpose. get rid of all the enhancements, bike paths or walking trails or parks.
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but that money into roads and bridges. when you talk with our farmers, one of the things they will tell you is they need to know that they are going to have dependable infrastructure for , for thoser crops that are loggers, moving things from the forest to the mills. >> governor? gov. bredesen: when i came in as governor, we had an enormous financial problem that i had to deal with. i dealt with it by asking every and state in the city government except for k-12 education to take a 9% across-the-board cut. we asked the road fund to do that as well. they did so. i did what i had to do to solve that particular budget program. -- problem. if congress would do the same thing from time to time, we would have a better country. >> president trump often refers
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to the press as "the enemy of the people." role dogree, and what you think a free press should play in society? rep. blackburn: thank you for that. i do not think that the press is the enemy of the people. i thinkell you this -- the first amendment and a free press is vitally important. one of the things that has captured a lot of attention lately has been what has been happening on social media. looking at how they are prioritizing, looking at how they are censoring, looking at how they are blocking the ability of the individuals when they go into their search engine anddo a search, prioritizing and pushing forward information that is there. just last week, you had the ceo of twitter say to their
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employees, do not bring your bias to the workplace. in an era when so many people are getting their information online, whether it is through podcasts like you all have started doing like you have sta, we need to make certain it is going to be something that is protected. of course, the free press is not the enemy of the people. any of us in the political world have our good days with the press and tough days with the press. i've come to the realization they are not your friends, not your enemies, they are just doing a different job than you. do asing i tried hard to mayor and governor was to be available. to be available especially when something was going bad or there was a problem to be dealt with. i'm proud of that relationship
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with the press. when i'm elected i will continue that kind of openness and accessibility. i don't think we have come to grips with what it means to have a facebook, twitter, and instagram in our world. they are not regulated media companies, as you know. they guide their independence in theiregard -- guard independence in that regard. working together, we can find sensible ways to make sure they are not used, for example, the way they were used a couple years ago by russia in the campaign. the first amendment is in many ways the most important one in constitution. i support the right of the press to conduct business. rep. blackburn: one of the things that we do know is in
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barack obama's administration, him and his family gave 55,000 dollars for his campaign. his federal communications commission wanted to take control of the internet. the last thing that tennesseans want is to have the federal government in control of their internet. we know mark zuckerberg has said facebook functions more like a edgenment than an provider. >> you are both going to replace senator corker. nato andpport promoting democracy around the world? gov. bredesen: i think the united states post-world war ii has been the leading force for a sensible world order. i want to see us continue to
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engage with the world. i spoke a little about the way the president seems to be backing away from that long-term worked so, which has well in the past. , we have to be willing to treat our friends in the proper way. we need to be willing to work out arrangements. i certainly believe we should remain in nato. has built trust in this position in leadership after world war ii. it is an enormous source of good , and we need to fulfill that role in the world for as long as we possibly can. rep. blackburn: i appreciate the role that senator corker has played for our state and our nation.
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when you talk about the united states on the world stage, nato is an important group. i am pleased that the president took the time to participate in that meeting and engage them and how we work together in a more protect oure way to allies. this is something so important. , they the obama years didn't know who was our enemy and who was our ally. they were not treated accordingly in the same way. missed the clock has that, correct? >> correct. rep. blackburn: i will finish it. talk are things when you about foreign policy. in tennessee everything begins with fort campbell and their participation. and cyberal guard 118th in/18 in in
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central tennessee. you have to look at the work pompeo and president trump have done. we have crisis on the run in syria. you have to look at the participation of russia and iran korea.ria, china, north i think they are the new axis of evil. president trump made it very clear. he was not going to draw a red line in syria. the russians ran right over that. i just want to affirm and point out that one of the reasons we have been so hasctive over the years been the military strength of the united states. it has reaffirmed my commitment to the men and women in uniform. when i was governor i was
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commander-in-chief of the national guard and we sent men and women to the border and to afghanistan. surecommitted to making that they have the tools they need. >> final question before closing statements. we will have 30 seconds for each of you. name one policy decision you supported or failed to support that you regret. rep. blackburn: one policy decision i supported or failed to support? would have put more energy into a cross the board i proposeut that every year in congress. it is important to cut into that baseline and reduce with the federal government spends. iwe want to see the spending level come down. al forin moral -- immor
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this debt to be passed to our children and grandchildren. focusing on high school readiness as the ultimate goal after high school. i took that too far and should have focused on other paths in terms of making people ready for in other fields that did not require that education. if i had it to do over again, i would change that. >> closing statements. rep. blackburn: the clock says 30 seconds. >> two minutes on the clock. go ahead. rep. blackburn: i want to say thank you again for hosting us and having us here this evening. havenk that the viewers had the opportunity to see differences, significant i.ferences between phil and
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i am running to take your tennessee values to washington, d.c. end says he is running to the dry spell for democrats in tennessee. to much toistens voters. i think d.c. needs to listen more to voters. that is what draining the swamp is about. making thosecit, cuts. chuck schumer, who has bought and paid for this campaign, he is chuck schumer is number one recruit. .huck schumer spends more sayshe comes to phil and vote for this to spend more, he will do that. when it comes to health care in hospitals, i want care.t-centered health
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there are differences between us. you have heard a little about us sent where i come from with my background. up on a farm, went to college on a 4-h plus scholarship. and twotwo children grandchildren. we are worked in william county to make it a great community. tennesseans standing up for state incomeo be tax-free, and a majority of tennesseans agree. i am running for the u.s. senate to take your values to washington. stand withfor you to me and asking for your vote. >> two minutes, governor. gov. bredesen: i still have a high school civics view of my country. i think we have a brilliantly
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designed government. i think our government could be a source for good in this country protecting its people and lands. it pains me so much with what has happened over the course of , withst decade or two everything becoming a partisan issue, the inability to move things forward. it has become a government of people standing on opposite sides of the room, shouting at each other, not making any progress. people are going to have a choice. if what people want is more of that hard-nosed partisan prisoners,ake no draw lines in the stand, make no compromises, i am not your guy. there is another person on the stage who has been in washington for 16 years and shows it, and is steeped in that political philosophy and has
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gotten good at it. if you want someone who brings experience from the business world, brings experience from being mayor and governor, and in particular brings an attitude of wanting to make things happen, getting things done, pushing the partition ship -- partisanship down and finding ways to solve problems, that is what i want to do. that is what my life has been about. want, iis what you would like to represent it in washington. i am applying for the job. >> we would like to thank you both for being here, the audience members, and cumberland university. [applause]
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>> ladies and gentlemen, please remain in your seats as the candidates the part. -- candidates depart. thank you. saturday, 2 retiring members of congress, bill shuster of pennsylvania and luis gutierrez of illinois talk about their experience in congress. >> i am coming to the end of my term as the chairman of the infrastructure committee. .hat was the driving force i thought to myself, playing
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sports through high school, when you are on a team and they put you on the bench it is not too much fun. i decided it is time to leave. we have a lot of great people on the committee, and i have no doubt someone will replace me and do great work. >> i've been here 26 years. i think the last couple of weeks are demonstrative that i helped create an immigrant movement in the united states of america. in the democratic caucus, manyratic party, and in spaces. economic business spaces, educational spaces, and most importantly in this political space that is the congress of the united states. genuine support for immigration reform. for our conversations saturday at 10:00 p.m. eastern on c-span and listen on the free c-span radio
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app. fordristine blasey testifies before the senate judiciary committee about her sexual assault allegation against brett kavanaugh that dates back to the early 1980's. it is live at 10:00 a.m. eastern on c-span3. we will show you the first two hours live on c-span two before the senate gavels in at noon. the senate judiciary committee has a meeting on friday that could include a vote on the kavanaugh nomination and a floor vote by the full senate next week. we will have full coverage on c-span3. you can watch online at or listen on the c-span radio app. >> the sexual assault


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