tv Sen. Lindsey Graham Remarks After Meeting with Pres. Trump CSPAN December 30, 2018 10:45pm-11:01pm EST
particular culture, effect a political environment, and how they could possibly set rules that are culturally sensitive, understand the kind of tensions that are at work. i think this raises the question that the platforms are reluctant to ask, which is, maybe it shouldn't all fall to them. maybe the decision process about what's removed has to be shared with the communities involved. that is a very hard thing to architect, but so is what they have built already. >> join us monday at 8:00 p.m. on c-span2. >> following a lunch with carolina trump, south senator lindsey graham spoke to reporters outside of the white house about border wall funding, the government shutdown, and isis. >> senator, how are you? >> what is the president's mood today?
with regard to progress on the shutdown, what is going to happen? >> we had a two hour lunch and a very enjoyable lunch. he is not a man under siege. the president's firm in his commitment to make sure we get the money for border security and there will never be a deal in the senate that doesn't include money for border security/wall. i don't see democrats giving us more money unless they get something. so the one thing we talked about was making a deal. there is a lot of distrust and i guess you can blame both sides for that but after lunch, i have never been more encouraged that if we can get people talking, we can find our way out of this and that would include around $5 billion for border security/wall/fencing, whatever you want to call it, whatever it is that makes sense and deal with another problem that is looming.
i think the president will eventually win his court case regarding daca. he has put on the table several times relief for the daca population. since we are talking about 5 billion for border security and not 25 billion, we are probably going to have to skill things back. -- scale things back. so i think it is possible if we start talking to each other. to have a deal that would provide relief to the daca population, it is called the bridge act. senator durbin and i introduced this three years ago and it would give work permits to all daca eligible recipients come about 700,000 so they can go to school, go to work, and not fear having their legal status changed anytime soon. the bill says three years one-time renewable. the tps recipients, about 400,000 people came to america over the last 20-30 years claiming wars warns -- war zones, natural disasters, and
their legal status is about to run out. there is a lot of sympathy for this population in the congress and i think the president is very open-minded about this dilemma. to what i mentioned today is an outline of a potential breakthrough with a $5 billion for the wall/border security, the bridge act, the tps reform. i think that is in the realm of possibility. the president did not commit but i think he is very open-minded. i know there are some democrats out there who would be willing to provide money for wall and border security if we could deal with the daca population and tps people and hopefully, we can get some serious discussions started navy as soon as next week. -- some serious discussions maybe as soon as next week. reporter: [indiscernible] >> not for $5 billion, i am not willing to do that.
i have done every commendation of immigration reform pretty much known to mankind. the deal we had in february is not going to be replicated. we are not going to do 25 billion dollars but i do think we could do $5 billion for the bridge act, which would give the same population work permits. the tps population is in a pretty bad way right now and i think we can get that on the table. >> [indiscernible] >> interesting. >> and his body language? >> we had a great lunch. we talked about syria and he told me some things i did not know that make me feel a lot better about where we are headed in syria. he promised to destroy isis. he is going to keep that
promise. we are not there yet but as i said today, we are inside the 10 yard line and the president understands the need to finish the job. he is worried about iranian influence in the potential dangers to israel and having a superhighway from beirut to tehran in terms of delivering weapons into lebanon and he will be talking to turkey to make sure we do not have a war between the turks and the kurds, our allies. i liked what i heard. we still have some differences but i will to you that the president is thinking long and hard about syria, how to withdraw our forces but at the same time achieve our national security interests which is to make sure the isis is destroyed, they never come back, and our allies, the kurds, are protected and iran does not become the big winner. and i feel pretty good about where we are headed. and i told the president his trip to iraq was much
appreciated. i think he learned a lot and i certainly learned a lot from him today. so on multiple fronts, the president is in a good mood and he feels like he has got to deliver on the promise of securing our border and he is very open-minded about combining ball funding with other things to make it a win-win for the country. >> right now, how is the president defining border security? >> he has a $5.6 billion appropriation sent over from the house. look at that. that appropriation is what we need and what he wants. $5 billion -- given the context of what was sent over from the house plus other things, i think is in the realm of possibility. >> [indiscernible] what makes you think it will work now? >> it was never just daca for the wall. there were a lot of moving parts. the diversity lottery was ended. we were arguing about how to
transition to merit-based immigration. the part -- the president did put a pathway to citizenship for 8 million dreamers but he does want to move towards merit based immigration but that is too far. we have a chance in 2019 a breakthrough in immigration. the $5 billion appropriation wisely spent would go a long way towards securing our border. it is not just about physical barriers. if we could find a way to make sure that the daca recipients have a work permit, it certainly makes their lives better. the tps population, i think all of us, are trying to find a way to help them. there is a deal to be had, i think. >> the democrats want to talk about technology [indiscernible]
>> all i can tell you is that democrats have voted for 700 miles of secure fencing that had double layer to fencing. call that whatever you would like. the gang of eight till, we had $42 million for border security including $9 billion for physical barriers. the wall has become a metaphor for border security. and what we are talking about is a physical barrier where it makes sense. in the past, every democrat has voted for these physical barriers. it cannot just be about because trump wants it, we no longer agree with it. there is nothing immoral about a physical barrier along the border in places that make sense. there will never be a deal at the end of this year or the beginning of the next that does not have money for the physical barrier that we all have in the past agreed that we need. the president is not asking for too much and we are going to put on the table some ideas that
have been embraced in the past. the question is, can we stop hating and -- hating each other up enough to find a deal that will be a win-win. the president was upbeat and in a good mood and i think he is receptive to making a deal if it achieves his goal of securing our border. and i think we can get there if everyone will start talking to each other. >> [indiscernible] high profile border security lunches, not that we are not happy to see you. why are democrats not coming over here? >> it is pretty hard to get here from hawaii. but the phones still work. so, all i can say is the democrats have said they are not going to give him a dime for a border wall, the house will change next week. they will send over a bill from the house that will not have any money for a physical barrier, a wall or fence or artistically
designed flats and that is not going to fly. the approach the democrats have taken has made it pretty hard to have a discussion. they are telling us what they will not do. after lunch today, i think the president is telling us what he wants and he is willing to do some things to get what he wants. and to my democratic friends, there are some things that you want that can be had if you agree to border security in a reasonable way. the reason we are not talking is because the house democrats have told us there is no way, no how you are going to get anything you want. >> have you talked to the president about slowing down [indiscernible] >> i think the president's trip to iraq was eye-opening. the commanders there told him that isis was in a world of
hurt, not completely destroyed but well on the way. i think operations to completely destroy and decimate isis are going to be ongoing and are going to be accelerated. so the president assured me that he is going to make sure that he gets the job done and i assured him that nobody has been more eager to defeat isis then he has and we are inside the 10 yard line. and then you have the kurds that we need to be concerned about. they stepped up when nobody else would and he is very aware of that problem. he is going to be talking to turkey about assuring turkey that they will have a buffer zone that they need given their concerns about the ypg kurds but the last thing in the world we want is a war between turkey and the kurds that takes pressure off of the -- off of isis. and the last thing we want is for a run to be the big winner. the president wants to finish the job regarding isis. i share his goal to withdraw our
forces from syria. i want to do it in the right way. making sure that iran is not the big winner. after discussions with the president, i have never felt better about where we are headed. we are slowing things down in a smart way but the goal has always been the same. be able to leave syria and make sure that isis cannot come back, make sure our partners are taking care of, and iran is contained. i think it will take longer than everybody thought but i think we will get there. >> [indiscernible] >> i think the president has come up with a plan with his generals that makes sense to me. the goal is to make sure that isis does not come back. we left iraq to soon. we had them on the ropes and we left too soon. the president is very committed to making sure that when we leave syria, isis is completely defeated and we are inside the 10 yard line. and the iran-kurd situation has to be dealt with. i think we are in a positive situation.
we are reevaluating what is the best way to achieve the president's objective. having people pay more and do more. we have the british and french still in syria. god bless them but the region needs to put some money into syria. how to -- how -- the president is right that the rebuilding should come from the region. and we will see what happens here in the next few weeks but i feel better about syria then i felt before i had lunch. i think the president is taking this really seriously and the trip to iraq was well-timed. thank you. >> [indiscernible] >> how long will the shutdown go on for? >> i don't know. >> thank you for coming out. >> the government shutdown now
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