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  White House Meeting on Shutdown  CSPAN  January 9, 2019 9:33pm-10:00pm EST

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[inaudible] >> negotiations to reopen the government continued at the white house wednesday, but ended after president trump walked out on democratic congressional leaders when they refused to support his border wall proposal. house speaker nancy pelosi and senate minority leader chuck schumer spoke to reporters outside the white house. they were followed by vice president pence and republican
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leadership. rep. pelosi: cold out here. the temperature wasn't much warmer in the situation room. our meeting did not last long, but it is so sad that in a matter of hours, or just a few will many federal workers not be receiving their paychecks. and what that means in their lives is tragic in terms of their credit rating, paying their mortgage, paying their rent, paying their car payment, tuition, and the rest. the president seems insensitive to that. he seems to think maybe they can ask their father for more money, but they can't.
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we think the collateral damage that he is causing -- i'm going to yield to the leader to talk about that, but i would say this. if you don't understand financial insecurity, then you would have a policy that takes pride in saying, i'm going to keep government shutdown for months or years unless you totally agree to my position. i yield to the leader. sen. schumer: unfortunately the president just got up and walked out. he asked speaker pelosi, will you agree to my wall? she said no. he just got up and walked out. again, we saw a temper tantrum because he couldn't get his way and he just walked out of the meeting. i asked him to open up the government. tomorrow, so many people will have trouble paying their mortgages, paying their bills,
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dealing with situations when they don't get paid. i said, why won't you do that? we are willing to discuss anything. and he said, if i open up the government, you won't do what i want. that is cruel. that is callous. that is using millions of innocent people as pawns. it was wrong. and a few minutes later, he sort of slammed the table, and when leader pelosi said she didn't agree with the ball, he just walked out and said, we have nothing to discuss. he said it was a waste of his time. that is sad and unfortunate. we want to come to an agreement. we believe in border security. we've offered the president our proposals, which have sat on his desk for several weeks. unfortunate, and in my judgment, somewhat
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unbecoming of a presidency. about -- say anything rep. pelosi: he didn't talk about that, but i will say is that one of the obstacles we have to an agreement is the stipulation of facts. what the president is claiming to be the situation at the border is not solved by a wall. oath to protect and defend the american people very seriously. we had suggestions about how we can do it better than a wall in recognition of what the from ane is there, immigration and drugs, etc., coming into our country. i said to him, the evidence of what is happening does not support the crisis that you describe, and the solution you suggest, because we have a better idea of how to keep our country safe, and it isn't a
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wall. is them speaker, what breaking point for you? >> before you ask more questions, i want to make a point. this is not a partisan difference. this is a policy difference. i suggested in the situation room in the last meeting that every time we have a policy difference, shutting down the government is the wrong thing to do. tois taking hostages accomplish your objectives and hurting people in the process. i've got a list of six senators and the chairman of homeland security committee in the house of representatives. i'm going to read you one. michael mccaul, from the state of texas, you have to understand that a 30 foot concrete wall is a very expensive proposition. there are a lot of other things we can be doing to make it a smart border that is more
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effective and cost-efficient. mccaul,michael republican chairman of the homeland security committee. this is not a partisan difference. this is a policy difference. it is unacceptable to put 800,000 people at risk, people on food stamps, millions of people expecting to get a refund on their taxes, people who want to use national parks, people who want to get farm assistance -- that is why we have bills on the floor that we are going to send to the senate. i want to read you one more quote. , he said.not remember me? i am the guy that gets us out of shutdowns. it is a failed policy. mitch mcconnell, 2014, cnn.
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it is a failed policy and we ought to stop it. madam speaker, is there any hope of -- [inaudible] >> we will make a few brief remarks, than happy to answer questions. vice pres. pence: we just ended a very short meeting in the situation room. the president invited the republican and democratic leadership because we are facing not only a partial government facingn, but we are also a humanitarian and security crisis at our southern border. this past week, the president and i and these leaders met on two separate occasions. all those in the room directed staff to spend the weekend
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working over proposals. we incorporated democratic ideas and language in our proposal and made an offer to resolve this impasse and address the crisis at our southern border. meeting, weis brief heard once again that democratic leaders are unwilling to even resolve this partial shutdown or address the crisis at our southern border. thatdemanded once again before any negotiations could begin, that we would have to agree to reopen the government. the president called the question in the meeting. he asked speaker pelosi, that if he reopened the government quickly, would she be willing to agree to funding for a wall or a barrier on the southern border, and when she said no, the president said goodbye.
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i know there's millions of americans, hundreds of thousands of federal workers, that are as disappointed as we are that the democrats are unwilling to engage in good faith negotiations, but the american people know we face a serious humanitarian and security crisis at our southern border. and this president, our entire administration, is going to continue to drive forward to bring about the kind of reforms that will see to the safety and security of the american people. the president made clear that he's going to stand firm to achieve his priorities, to build a wall, a steel barrier on the southern border, add additional personnel, additional reforms, to stem the crisis that we face on our southern border. we are very grateful for these republican leaders here, and
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others that are gathered with us, for their support. >> i want to clarify a few things. i just listened to senator schumer. cameras in the meeting, i think we need to bring them back. what he described the meeting to be was totally different than what took place. the president calling all the leaders together to solve this problem. even brought a little candy for everybody. he started off talking about wanting to get this solved. he said, 45 minutes, but i think we can do it in 10. i want to turn the floor over, the president said, to speaker pelosi and schumer. tell us what offer you have. because we all had in our hands, from the vice president and every office, about where we were. the different offers, the work that you've done to secure this
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border. he turned to speaker pelosi. she began to argue whether we even have a crisis or the facts are true. turned to schumer, who said we have to open the government up. the president would go back and forth in negotiation, in a very respectful way. i saw schumer continue to raise his voice. the president then turned to the speaker and asked, if we open the government up, in 30 days, could we have border security? she raised her hand and said no. the president calmly said, i guess you are still not wanting to deal with the problem. the president wants to solve this problem. that is why he continues to bring us down. that is why he put offers on the table. not once have the democrats offered anything back. the entire time i've been in these meetings, they want to and debate whether
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what comes across the southern border. people are hurting. as i said before, i will work with anyone that wants to move america forward and secure our border. this is the goal. every democrat said in that room they are for border security. what american believes border security does not have some form of a barrier? it is only the democrats in that room. the behavior is embarrassing to me. out to this floor and talk about a meeting in a manner that did not take place is disturbing to me. i want to solve this problem. people are hurting. i tell the democrats, get back in the room. let's solve this problem. just as the president said, it doesn't even take 45 minutes.
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[inaudible] leaderes. pence: mccarthy i think described it very accurately. i heard the president say last night that this could be solved in 45 minutes. i had hoped that was going to happen, that the democrats were going to negotiate in good faith, and we were going to come up with a resolution. they obviously haven't moved an inch. they've accused the president of not being willing to negotiate, but the president has been more than willing to negotiate. you've had the vice president meeting with members of staff, trying to move the ball down the field and get us on a path to a solution. -- that istoday exactly how it was phrased. speaker policy, if i were to open the government today, 30 days from now, would you support any funding for border security, for a wall, and she said no.
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i think the president clearly interpreted that as clear evidence the democrats have no interest in trying to solve this problem. they clearly want the political issue. [inaudible] first of all, i thought the president was very called in trying to put different issues on the table to solve the crisis at our border. last night he laid out some of the problems and challenges we are facing. today, what he did was start to offer some more ideas. our teams worked over the weekend, and we can talk about terms, but at some point the other side has to put a counter offer on the table. no is not a valid answer. --the president started off
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the experts tasked with securing our nation have said it is going to take $5.7 billion. nancy pelosi, her only answer was to jokingly say she would support a dollar. the american people who are watching this shutdown, the families who are going to be missing paychecks, it is not fair to them to say you are only willing to offer a dollar to solve this problem, when you haven't given any serious credible counter offer. the president has even said he will change the definition of a wall. he will move off of the number. even sent the vice president down to offer in negotiation that would involve a lower timer, and not one single have the democrats offered a counter, other than to say in dollar. and by the way, nobody slammed their hand on a table. to mischaracterize the things that happened in that meeting is not fair to this process.
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at the same time, when the president looks at nancy pelosi and says, if i give you another 30 days, will you be willing to support some funding to secure the border, and she says no -- not maybe, not some serious counter offer, but no, that is not an acceptable answer to a serious crisis at our border where we are seeing people die, where we are seeing the drugs that are pouring in, and the families that are being touched in a very negative way by the drugs and the opioids -- and there's a quick way to solve this problem. and not once have the democrats offered a single counteroffer. and the president has offered multiple times, and the democrats haven't given one counteroffer. they need to come back to the table with some kind of serious, credible alternative. just quickly to add, i think
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i'm just sorely disappointed. this is a crisis. it is a humanitarian crisis. it is a security crisis. the reality is that walls work. everywhere that we put up a wall, illegal immigration has been reduced by 90 to 95%. do you want to stop the human misery? you need a wall. we have addressed the ports of entry. the vice president worked with congressional staff. we came up with an offer that would secure the points of entry by checking every single vehicle for drugs. betweeninals also come ports of entry. we need security at ports of entry and between ports of entry. this is a crisis. it is up to the congress to do ,heir job, take the leadership and fix this on behalf of all
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americans. you said that the president is standing firm on his demands for a border wall. how is that compromise, and what are you going to say -- 800,000 federal workers not getting a paycheck this friday. tsa workers, secret service agents, what do you say to them going into 20 days of a shutdown? vice pres. pence: i say to every american that this president and this administration takes very seriously our obligation to do what is necessary to protect the american people and uphold our laws. the offer that we put on the table, the offer that was in front of democratic leaders again today, represents a condemnation of approaches. certainly there is the wall, a steel barrier on the southern border.
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but we've also added additional resources for personnel, additional reforms, humanitarian assistance, changes in our asylum laws, some of which was informed by our discussions with democratic leaders. we've been working in good faith to resolve, not just this partial government shutdown, but to address what is an undeniable crisis at our southern border. even the "washington post" called it a bona fide emergency. we have 60,000 people a month being apprehended at our borders, and two thirds of them are now families and unaccompanied minors. that is not a situation that our border patrol system was ever designed to deal with. we need reforms. we need changes. we need a wall, a physical barrier. what i think would have to be distressing to 800,000 federal
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workers and tens of millions of americans, is the answer from the democrats is, we will not negotiate. [inaudible] help that the president walked out of the room? the pres. pence: i think president made his position very clear today. there will be no deal without a wall. there will be no deal without the priorities the president has put on the table. but if you look at the proposal that the president directed us to offer after spending two days with senior staff, it reflects democrat priorities as well. as we continue to hear about the congress -- i know there will be votes tomorrow, the house will take up bills to open portions of the government, and the president said, if i opened up the government quickly
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, would you agree to border security and a wall? the speaker of the house said no. at that point, i think the president thought there was no longer any reason to be talking at this meeting. we had conversations with the leaders before they left. we hope they will come back to the table. i would say to every american who shares our frustration, call yourwe hope they will come backo the table. congressman, call your senator. if you think the democrats should be negotiating in good faith to resolve this partial government shutdown and address the humanitarian and security ,risis at our southern border then call your congressman, call your senator, tell them come back to the table and the door at the white house is wide open. we are ready to sit down with these leaders. [inaudible] >> democrats said that the
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president was slamming his hand on the table and he walked out. can you categorize what the president did in the meeting? are we any closer to having a national emergency declared? vice pres. pence: the president walked into the room and passed out candy. it is true. i don't recall him ever raising his voice or slamming his hand. but this is a president who feels very strongly about his to see to the security of the american people. he brought the whole issue of illegal immigration to the center of the national debate when he sought this office, and we saw a decline in illegal immigration at our southern border in our first year in office, but the reality is, because of the lack of reforms, because of the lack of a wall,
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because of loopholes in our law, we are seeing a precipitous rise in families and unaccompanied children being driven by human traffickers and cartels, individuals who are exploiting vulnerable families, encouraging them to make the long and dangerous journey, and you could hear the president say, this is a crisis of heart and soul. he feels this passionately. he left the room because speaker nancy pelosi said that even if he gave her what she wanted, she would never agree to the border security priorities that we have on the table. that was unacceptable. [inaudible] the president now closer to declaring a national emergency? vice pres. pence: the president has made it clear that he is looking at that. he believes he has the authority to do it. i know it is the belief of these republican leaders as well, congress should just do their
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job. politics is the art of the possible. i served in the congress for 12 years. i remember times when there were strong feelings on emotions, but eventually leaders came together, sat down with presidents, often in opposite political parties, heard each other priorities, negotiated, and moved forward. that is what the american people expect today. when the speaker of the house comes to the table with the leader of the democrats in the senate, after we've made days of good faith negotiations with an offer on the table, and the only answer is they will not negotiate until we reopen the government -- and when the president says, if i gave you what you are asking for, would you agree to border security and , i thinknd they say no the american people deserve better. i think these leaders know the
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american people deserve better. i can promise the american people, this president, republicans in the house and senate, are going to continue to stand firm until we get the resources and reforms necessary to end the humanitarian crisis on our southern border, to end the security crisis on our border. then and only then will we end this partial government shutdown. [inaudible] >> c-span's washington journal, live every day with news and policy issues that impact you. thursday morning, arizona republican congressman paul gosar discusses the government
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