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closed quote. how did the president actually direct the negotiations? >> after each communication i had, i would report back to him. our goal was to get this project. we were interested in building what would have been the largest building in all of europe. if i can say one last thing, this is on >> we are leaving this hearing with michael cohen as the house is about to gavel back into session. you can continue watching on c-span.org. listen with the free c-span radio app. we'll be reairing the hearing tonight at 8:00 eastern right here on c-span. the house getting ready to start their legislative day. there is one bill on the calendar, h.r. 8, expands gun buyer background checks to include sales between private individuals. this is one of two gun-related bills being considered in the
house this week. members are expected to finish work on the other measure tomorrow or friday. live coverage of the u.s. house is here on c-span. the speaker: the house will be in order. the prayer will be offered by the guest chaplain, father philip salois, american legion national chaplain, north smithfield, rhode island. the chaplain: let us pray. almighty god, we gather here in these hallowed halls to give you praise and thanks on this day, as our elected men and women begin their day's work to discuss and vote on legislation that will improve the lives of
american citizens. dear lord, we beseech you to pour fouth your grace and blessings upon all who gather to do the work that the people of america elected them to do. we pray for peace and harmony when we disagree. we pray for the strength and will to work out our differences and to come up with the best solutions that will benefit society as a whole. watch over and protect the men and women in uniform and safeguard them all from harm, and we pray you to bring them home safely to their families and friends. we especially remember those who are held prisoners in foreign lands. those missing in action as we continue to seek them out and bring them home to their loved ones. we make this prayer in your name, amen. the speaker: the -- the chair has examined the journal last
of the -- of the last day's proceedings and announced her pproval thereof. pursuant to clause 1 of rule 1 the journal stands approved. the pledge of allegiance will be led by the gentlelady from california, ms. brownley. ms. brownley: i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. the speaker: without objection, the gentleman from rhode island, mr. cicilline, is recognized for one minute. mr. cicilline: thank you, madam speaker. i rise today to recognize father philip g. salois who delivered today's opening prayer. father phil is a native of rhode island and now lives in north smithfield, rhode island, a community i am proud to represent in congress. he served our country in uniform during the vietnam war as a combat infantryman and
earned a silver star for valor. father phil felt called to service in another capacity. he was ordained to the priesthood in june, 1984. he joined the veterans administration in boston where he served as chief of the chaplain service from 1993 to 2005. today he continues to minister to veterans in rhode island and all across america. we all of our service members an incredible debt of gratitude. the men and women of the united states armed forces represents values of service, honor, courage, and sacrifice. this is especially true of father phil who represents the very best of our country and my home state of rhode island and i thank him for his service to our country and for being here today to offer the beautiful opening prayer. we are truly honored by his presence and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the chair will entertain up to 15 further requests of one-minute speeches on each side of the aisle.
for what purpose does the gentlewoman from california seek recognition? ms. brownley: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. ms. brownley: mr. speaker, two weeks ago president trump falsely declared that there was a national emergency occurring at our southern border. the real emergency that he should be focusing on is the devastating gun violence epidemic that has torn communities apart across our country, including my own where we are still mourning the loss of 12 precious lives at the borderline bar and grill in thousand oaks, california. this week, the house will vote on the first major gun safety legislation in decades. while there is no single answer that will stop all gun violence, h.r. 8 and h.r. 1112 are commonsense, bipartisan steps to strengthen our background check system to keep
deadly firearms out of the hands of those we agree should not have them. if the president is serious about addressing national emergencies, he should join us in supporting these bills. mr. speaker, i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from south carolina seek recognition? mr. wilson: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. . wilson: mr. speaker, the national institute of standards and technology is celebrating 30 years of success. senator hollings of south carolina introduced legislation that led to the creation of the program that later was renamed in his honor. the m.e.p. has served over 26,000 companies. it has earned support in congress for assisting small to mid-sized manufacturers. i am grateful that the south carolina m.e.p. has generated
almost $380 million in new investment and created 1,361 jobs. it generated almost $2.7 billion in statewide economic impact. in the second congressional district, it has created and retained 989 jobs last year and brought in over $30 million of new investment. i commend these employers for creating jobs in south carolina and nationwide. in conclusion, god bless our troops and we will never forget september 11 and the global war on terrorism. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. for what purpose does the gentlelady from pennsylvania seek recognition? >> mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady is recognized for a minute. >> mr. speaker, for decades, lobbyists have stifled our national conversation about gun violence and congress has refused to act. since parkland, thousand oaks, and so many others, new voices have broken threw.
student activists have marched, organized alongside moms and insisted we take their safety seriously. this week do just that, by passing h.r. 8 and h.r. 1112, this will be a sea change. ms. dean: and it shouldn't be controversial. 97% of americans support background checks. that's democrats and republicans, including 94% of gun-owning households. six years i was in the pennsylvania house when the pennsylvania house judiciary held its first hearing on background checks. in her courageous testimony, sandy hook mother, fran seen wheeler, described losing her son ben. she said, when this happens to you, when my child was murdered, i no longer have fear to stand up and to say what is right and what i believe. and then fran seen asked a -- francine asked a crucial question, quote, if we all agree dangerous individuals
shouldn't have dangerous guns, then we should take the most basic steps to make sure they don't? i look forward to passage of these bills. i thank you, mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from arkansas seek recognition? >> i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman is recognized for one minute. >> mr. speaker, i rise today to recognize a very impressive group of individuals visiting the capitol this week. delegates of the national center for learning disabilities have traveled from all over the country to advocate for themselves and their peers. when it comes to learning, each of us must deal with our own unique challenges. these young people face some particularly difficult obstacles including dyslexia and dysgraphia. they have not let these obstacles prevent them from doing great things. they have persevered, working hard not just for their own success but for the future
success of others. by traveling to washington to share their stories and discuss opportunities for governmental and societal change, these young adults have demonstrated deep commitment to the community of those who have learning disabilities. mr. westerman: i admire their dedication and hope to use my role as co-chair of the congressional dyslexia caucus to help them in these efforts. may they be encouraged to keep up their great work. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. for what purpose does the gentlelady from virginia seek recognition? >> i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentlelady is recognized. >> thank you, mr. speaker. several years ago, i had a conversation with one of my constituents that i think about often. she told me about when she sent her 5-year-old son off to his first week of kindergarten in the loudoun county public schools and he came home from school one day and he told her, mommy, we had an emergency drill today. my place to hide is behind the
backpacks. like a backpack is going to stop a round from an ar-15. and she decided right then and there that we need to do better for our kids. ms. wexton: and she needed to do something. and her way of doing something was to start the loudoun chapter of moms demand action, and now she and millions more like her have sent us here to do something about gun violence. and we may not be able to stop every school shooting, every act of gun violence, but shouldn't we at least try to stop some? because if we won't do that, we shouldn't be here. and today for the first time in decades, the united states congress will vote on meaningful gun violence prevention legislation. we will vote on and pass h.r. 8, the bipartisan background checks act of 2019. and i will proudly vote yes because these checks will save lives. thank you, mr. speaker. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady's time has expired. for what purpose does the gentleman from pennsylvania seek recognition? >> request unanimous consent to
address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman is recognized. >> thank you, mr. speaker. i rise today during black history month to honor an olympic champion and truly one of the greatest athletes my district has ever produced, mr. henry norwood, otherwise known as barney yuell. he was born into poverty and grew up in lancaster. he attended mccaskey high school and later on went to penn state. mr. smucker: he served during world war ii. he became known as the fastest man in the world after he broke the world record for the 50-yard dash in 1940. he went on to win one gold and two silver medals at the 1948 olympics in london. i know people who still recall cheering on the streets in lancaster city after barney returned from london having won
the medals for our country and for our community. he was an inspiration to lancaster city and it's an honor to highlight his story today. with that, mr. speaker, i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentlelady from florida seek recognition? >> mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentlelady is recognized. >> mr. speaker, in june, 2016, a gunman opened fire in pulse nightclub in orlando, florida, kill 49 people, including jerry wright, a miami heat fan who loved to dance. ms. shalala: his parents known his son's death was preventable, but more than that, that it was not unusual. nearly 40,000 people died because of guns every year and that's why fred and maria lead the local moms demand action group in my district.
i am so proud to learn from them and work with them on commonsense gun safety in miami-dade and around the country. by mandating universal background checks for every gun sale, we can be a step closer to ensuring that when our children go to school, to concerts, to movie theaters, to clubs they do so safely. they do so without worrying that this dance might be their last. fred and maria wright aren't asking for an overhaul of the second amendment. they're just asking for the adoption of commonsense solutions. i urge my colleagues to join us in preventing firearms from falling into the wrong hands by supporting h.r. 8. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady's time has expired. for what purpose does the gentleman from tennessee seek recognition? >> i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman is recognized.
>> mr. speaker, i rise today to support president trump's declaration of a national emergency at the u.s.-mexico border. sophisticated cartels, some of the most dangerous criminals and terrorist organizations in the world, are partnering with foreign adversaries, including cuba, venezuela, iran, and china smuggling drugs as well as human beings into our country. mexican cartels produce or distribute most fentanyl, cocaine, and methamphetamine here, killing tens of thousands of americans annually. desjarlais desjarlais my constituents -- mr. desjarlais: many violent gangs have infiltrated recent caravans. these forces are destabilizing and deadly on both sides, but particularly for the less fortunate among us. under legal authority, congress has granted the executive branch which barack obama also used to combat cart tells and illegal immigration -- cartels and illegal immigration.
the president has the power to declare a national security to fund border at dangerous weak pionts. as a constitutionalist and strong advocate for the military, i believe the need is clear and pressing. thank you and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentlelady from california seek recognition? >> i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. . >> thank you, mr. speaker. today, today is a momentous day. one that makes me proud of this chamber. after years of inaction, congress is moving to address our country's gun violence problem. we've seen some of the worst mass shootings in our nation's history in just the past few years. mrs. davis: las vegas, thousand oaks, southerland springs, parkland, sandy hook. these are only a few of the
names that recently shocked us to the core. and sadly, each time congress failed to act. but today, today we're offering more than thoughts and prayers. we're offering legislation. this bill has bipartisan support . finally something we can all agree on. strengthening our background check system is a small but a very important first step. we simply cannot allow criminals to take advantage of loopholes. background checks work, they keep guns out of the hands of criminals and background checks will save lives. no more excuses. it's just common sense. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from texas seek recognition? >> mr. speaker, i would ask unanimous consent for one minute to address the house.
the speaker pro tempore: without objection. >> selling a gun to a convicted felon, to a perpetrator of domestic violence, to a fugitive from justice, merits a jail term. but those who oppose this reasonable background check bill are enabling just that. someone who couldn't buy a .22 inside a gun shop can today go outside that shop and buy a military-style killing machine and get away with it. mr. doggett: doctors goldstein and epstein, who visited my office this very week, on behalf of moms demand action, and 117 snow physicians, they have a view that is different from members of congress. concerning the result of gun violence. they witness this violence in the emergency room, as young bodies are torn apart. what a different view this debate would have if it were occurring amidst of the pain and violence and blood in a hospital
emergency room. because closing this loophole is about life support. we've got to end the trauma. let's join the doctors who are out there seeking to save lives and do our part to save lives by passing this bill. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from pennsylvania seek recognition? >> i ask unanimous consent to speak for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. >> mr. speaker, more than 500 pennsylvanians are murdered with guns each year. causing untold suffering and tearing our communities apart. pennsylvanians are crying out for commonsense legislation to stop the bloodshed. legislation like h.r. 8, the bill before us today. now nobody thinks that universal background checks would eliminate gun violence. mr. doyle: but the facts suggest that they reduce it.
in 2017, the pennsylvania state police ran over a million background checks on would-be gun purchasers. the vast majority of purchases were approved within a few minutes. but 13,000 were stopped. and the background checks led to the arrest of 151 wanted fugetifics and the arrest and conviction of 500 other individuals for illegally attempting to obtain a firearm. those background checks put some bad guys in jail. and they probably saved some lives as well. let's help our police enforce the laws that keep guns out of dangerous hands. vote for the bipartisan background check act. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentlelady from illinois seek recognition? >> i request unanimous consent to address the house for one minute, to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. >> thank you, mr. speaker. i rise today to take a stand in support of h.r. 8, which takes a critical first step to ensure that every person who purchases
a gun undergoes a background check. people should have the right to feel safe from gun violence in their community, including at home, at work and at school. ms. underwood: unfortunately that is not the case today in our country. time and time again our communities have experienced gun violence due to the absence of commonsense gun safety measures. only 12 days ago five people, four of whom were my constituent, left their homes for work at the henry pratt company in aurora, illinois, and never returned. their lives were taken by an unspeakably horrific act of gun violence. it's time to take immediate action to help safeguard our communities from gun violence. and today for the first time in more than two decades, the house of representatives will vote on a major gun safety bill. and i will support it. h.r. 8 is a strong step towards making our communities safer and i look forward to continuing to work on commonsense legislation that balances gun rights with the safety of our communities.
mr. speaker, i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentlelady from illinois seek recognition? >> seek unanimous consent to address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. ms. schakowsky: mr. speaker, i'm so proud to stand here today as we work to pass gun violence prevention legislation. i would like to share a letter from a fifth grader constituent of mine, alex, from northfield, illinois, that perfectly explains why we must pass h.r. 8 and h.r. 1112. alex writes, quote, i don't want to see innocent people dying for no reason. i want all children to feel safe at school. i want all adults to feel safe at work. i want all people to feel safe in their city. i think stronger gun laws will help. and also make sure that everyone that buys a gun has to have a thorough background check. well, alex, you are absolutely
right. and we are about to finally ensure that everyone that purchases a gun undergoes a comprehensive background check. the next step is banning assault weapons. this fifth grader and students around the country are telling us to do something real. to make them safer. and finally, at long last, the house of representatives will take action today. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady's time has expired.
for what purpose does the gentleman from colorado seek recognition? >> mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman is recognized for one minute. >> mr. speaker, i would like to recognize the critical role that brewers and beer importers play in our nation's economy. american beverage companies and brewers employ more than 2.2 million people nationwide, providing more than $103 billion in wages and benefits. in my home state of colorado, brewersy have become a significant component -- breweries have become a significant component of our economy. but in order to compete, they need a fair and transparent pricing system for aluminum. mr. buck: that is why i, along with my friend, mr. lawson from florida, are introducing
legislation this week giving the u.s. commodities future trading commission oversight authority of the aluminum market. these unfair market practices have not only cost the beverage and brewing industry hundreds of millions of dollars, they have also had harmful effects on consumers. with the help of the cftc, i hope we can resolve these pricing irregular larities that have been plaguing the market so our nation's beverage companies and brewers can continue to produce some of america's most popular beverages. thank you. yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman rom new york seek recognition? mr. engel: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent that all members may have five eth -- legislative days in which to revise and extend their remarks and insert extraneous material on h.r. 8, the bipartisan background check act of 2019. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. pursuant to house resolution 145
and rule 18, the chair declares the house in the committee of the whole house on the state of the union for the consideration of h.r. 8, the chair appoints the gentleman from oregon, mr. blumenauer, to preside over the ommittee of the whole. the chair: the house is in the committee of the whole on the state of the union for consideration of h.r. 8, which the clerk will report by title. the clerk: a bill to require a background check for every firearm sale. the chair: pursuant to the rule, the bill is considered read the first time. the gentleman from new york, mr. nadler, and the gentleman from georgia, mr. collins, will each control 30 minutes. the chair recognizes the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: thank you, mr. chairman. mr. chairman, i yield myself such time as i may consume. the chair: the gentleman is recognized. mr. nadler: mr. chairman, i am
pleased that today we are considering h.r. 8. the bipartisan background checks act of 2019. we have promised the american people that congress would take steps to reduce gun violence and this bill is a critical first step toward doing so. during the past four weeks, as the judiciary committee and now the full house have discussed the issue of gun violence, i have cited grim statistics. nearly 40,000 americans lost their lives because of guns in 2017. in fact, every day in america on average 34 people are murdered with a firearm and more than 183 people are injured in an attack. gun violence of this magnitude is a distinctly american problem. a country to country comparison is shocking. for example, in 2011 the united kingdom had 146 deaths due to gun violence. denmark, 71. portugal, 142. and japan, just 30. the united states that year,
about 35,000. a recent study the -- in the american journal of medicine found that compared to 22 other high-income countries, gun-related murder rate in the united states is 25 times higher. even when you adjust for population differences, americans are disproportionately killed by gun violence. almost 25 years to the day after the brady act was first implemented, expanding current background check requirement to cover virtually all gun transfers is one of the steps we must take to address this crisis. under current law, only licensed firearms dealers are required to conduct a background check before transferring a gun to another person. this means that gun shows, online sales and other private sales can completely evade this vital tool for ensuring that guns do not get into the wrong hands. it is time to close this dangerous loophole. this bill would make it illegal for any person who is not a licensed firearm importer, manufacturer, dealer to transfer a firearm to any other person
who is not so licensed without a background check. individuals seeking to transfer firearm under this measure would be required to visit a licensed firearms dealer to run the necessary background check before the transfer could be finalized. the bill also provides an exception to this requirement, including gifts to family members and transfers for hunting, target shooting and instances of imminent death or great bodily harm. the f.b.i.'s internal assessment demonstrated that checks process through the national instant criminal background check ystem, often called nci -- nics, are accurate. and 90% of cases the background checks are completed within 90 seconds. h.r. 8 will provide an accurate and speedy mechanism to help ensure firearms do not end up in the wrong hands. there's no reason to continue to make it easy for people who are legaly prohibited from possessing firearms to acquire
them. by circumventing the background check process. h.r. 8 would close this dangerous loophole and save many, many lives. that is why i urge my colleagues to vote in favor of this vital legislation today. i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves the balance of his time -- the chair: the gentleman reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from georgia. mr. collins: thank you, mr. speaker. today i rise in strong opposition to h.r. 8. the so-called bipartisan background checks act. this is bad legislation that fails to make anyone safer in any regard. i have been listening here and sitting on the floor for just the last few minutes and listening to those who came up and were happy about this bill coming forward today and they mentioned many acts of mass violence and situations that have happened. the sad part about it is they claim this is the answer and the first step. the actuality is it's at best a side step and may actually be a step backwards. and will not do what is being claimed to do. all this legislation will do is burden law-abiding citizens wishing to exercise their second amendment rights, including
defending themselves from the gun toting criminals this bill does nothing to combat. h.r. 8 foolishly presumes criminals will submit themselves to background checks. ourmans -- members who support -- are members who support this bill deluthsal enough to think that criminals will give crucial to h.r. 8 and go to the nearest gun store to submit to a background check? that's absurd. and most of us will agree that criminals are not going to do that anyway. my concern is what it does in practice. to those who are not criminals. not only is it foolish to think they'll start following the law, this is foolish to think it's going to in men ways make our country safer. . my friend has called for universal background checks but h.r. 8 would not have stopped a single mass shooting. the strategies do, however, share one thing in common. over and over we see issues of mental health and missed opportunities for authorities to intercede. let me just say, mr. speaker, i share the concern, and i will
share? just a moment actually real things that could make a difference in helping to stem the tide of mass violence in our country. but doing this we have to understand that this bill does not do that, and what may make you feel good may not heal you, and that has to be understood. look at the recent workplace shooting in illinois where the gunman murdered five people. that could have been prevented but not by h.r. 8. all law enforcement had to do was enforce existing law. the gunman was prohibited from possessing firearms. in january, 2014, he was issued an illinois' firearms owner's identification card. that march, he applied to buy a handgun from a gun dealer. five days later he took possession of the gun having inexplicably passed a ackground check. his felony conviction was flagged. they sent him a letter telling him to relinquish the firearm. not surprisingly, the felon did not comply. had authorities seized the firearm between march, 2014,
february, 2019, they could have saved five lives. aurora, illinois, is not the only missed opportunity to prevent tradgedeefment we know about missed opportunities in parkland, aurora, sutherland springs, virginia tech, and others. the common problem here, mr. speaker, is clear. it's not a lack of background checks. with h.r. 8, democrats refuse to acknowledge human factors leading to these events but republicans have a bill to help law enforcement coordinate responses to mental health concerns and other mass violent threat information. you know what else h.r. 8 doesn't address? the primary ways criminals acquire firearms. last month, d.o.j. revealed nearly half of criminals obtained firearms via theft or black market. the survey also revealed a more .8% of criminals purchased their firearms at gun shows if this bill won't prevent mass shootings and address violent crime what will it do? it will keep law abiding citizens from protecting themselves. under this bill, under this bill, mr. speaker, a battered
woman with a protection order against her abuser who borrows a firearm for self-defense would be a criminal. it would criminalize the selling of a firearm without a background check to anyone -- to someone with a valid permit, allowing them to possess, acquire, carry a firearm if that person walked into a gun store, they could present that permit and not undergo a nics check. on the other hand, there are solutions to prevent mass violence and crimes. the n.v.p. act directly challenges law, coordination, response. it would reduce the flow of firearms in the black market and bolster law enforcement ability. if reducing gun violence, mr. speaker, is the democrats, mr. speaker, this act is one we should be considering today, not h.r. 8. talk to me or my staff by co-sponsoring this evidence-based, bipartisan legislation. unlike h.r. 8, the m.v.p. act
could have prevented tragedies such as parkland. unfortunately, mr. speaker, my democratic colleagues, by putting forward this and continuing the same narrative, are not actually interested in stopping gun violence. i take the intent to be good. i do not question the motive. all of us in our life do not want to see the tragedies unfold. ut this is not the way forward. this is another thing put out to the very ones who have suffered, telling them we're helping them while at the same point not telling them the truth about the bill, a bill that guts its own ability to enforce itself, a bill that actually would keep possibly people from purchasing firearms because of an unlimited price of a background check. the questions that i have about this bill, mr. speaker, is not what actually could happen with this. it's what actually will be hurt by this as we move forward. with that i believe they are being misled, the victims of
mass violence are being misled by this bill, h.r. 8, because it would not have stopped what they have been promised would stop. with that i am profoundly sorry and i ask my colleagues to reject this and support real solutions and i reserve the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: mr. chairman, i now yield two minutes to the gentlelady from california, the chairperson of the crime subcommittee, ms. bass. the chair: the gentlelady is recognized for two minutes. ms. bass: thank you. mr. chair, i rise in strong support of h.r. 8, the bipartisan background checks act of 2019, which will extend the current federal background check requirement to unlicensed sellers of guns. it is about time that congress takes this issue seriously and i am pleased that this bipartisan bill has been brought to the house floor with the urgency this issue deserves. in recent years, our nation has experienced an increase in mass shootings and our nation is appropriately horrified.
however, mass shootings are just one symptom of our gun violence epidemic. the daily toll of shootings occurs in communities across our country, on our streets, in our schools, and even in our houses of worship. as one testified before the judiciary committee earlier this month, one year after the terrible shooting that took the lives of 17 students and staff and injured 17 others at her high school in parkland, florida, minority communities bear the heaviest brunt of gun violence in this country. and the impact of our young people is simply unacceptable. every day, 47 children and teens are shot in this country. eight of these young people die, and 39 are shot and survived. citizens across this country, such as diane latticer, who also testified before the committee, are taking it upon themselves to organize and engage in community-based efforts to reduce gun violence and assist the young people it effects. but we in congress must match their courage and commitment with action of our own.
i support h.r. 8 because it will reduce gun violence by narrowing the avenues for criminals and others prohibited persons from obtaining guns. certainly there is no single change to our gun laws that will prevent every shooting, but enacting measures that will help prevent some of them is clearly the right thing to do. that is why i support this bill and i ask my colleagues to do the same. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields back. the gentleman from georgia. collins -- the chair: the gentlelady yields back. the gentleman from georgia. mr. collins: this continues the process for those who will receive guns and many of the daily toll we receive are actually coming from those who are already violating laws currently on the books. it's time we enforce those as well. with that i yield two minutes to the gentleman from california, mr. mcclintock. the chair: the gentleman is recognized for two minutes. mr. mcclintock: i thank the gentleman for yielding. mr. chairman, h.r. 8 is brought to us by the same groups and politicians who made no secret of their desire to ultimately strip law-abiding citizens of their right to defend themselves. now, they can't do that
outright. they know that. so they do it through cynical measures like this, which we've a web of laws so intory indicate that sooner or later everyone can be caught up in them. this law affects not just transfer of ownership but any transfer of weapon for a period of time. so suppose you exchange shotguns with a friend on a hunt and then separate for a period of time or you lone a gun to your ex-- loan a gun to your next door neighbor who has been victimized by a stalker or ive a gun to your stepson or great-grandson, under these scenarios, you're guilty of a federal crime. these flaws were all pointed out to the bill's sponsors and none were addressed. why not? i think the reason should be obvious. last october, a 10-year study by johns hopkins and u.c.-davis concluded that california's universal background check law had no effect on gun homicides or suicides.
none. the purpose of this bill is not public safety. that's just a deceptive facade. its true purpose is to make gun ownership so legally hazardous, so fraught with legal booby traps and draconian penalties that no law-abiding citizen would want to take the risk of gun ownership. most criminals get their guns illegally and are not constrained by laws like this. this is aimed squarely at law-abiding citizens, moving us closer to a society where decent people are defenseless are not. criminals the chair: the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: mr. chairman, i now yield one minute to the gentleman from rhode island, mr. cicilline, a member of the committee. the chair: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. cicilline: mr. speaker, we have a gun violence epidemic in this country. for eight years we've marked it with moments of silence and doing nothing. today that changes with passage
of h.r. 8 for universal background checks. we know universal background checks work because since the passage of the brady bill, 3 1/2 million illegal gun sales were prevented. but, of course, there is a huge loophole. millions and millions of gun sales happen without a background check at all. in fact, one in five, 22% of guns are sold with in background check. that means criminals, domestic abusers, people prohibited due to mental illness, can get a gun. this bill changes that. we also know that states that have enhanced background checks have lower rates of gun homicides, gun suicide rates and gun trafficking. this is a commonsense bill to protect the american people from the scourge of gun violence. finally, after eight years of pleading with our republican colleagues to do something about gun violence in this country, to take up a bill, we had a sit-in to try to voice a vote, finally today we are taking our first step to reduce gun violence in this country by passing h.r. 8. i final -- finally we will see
members of congress standing up to the power of the gun lobby and doing what's right for the american people. i urge my colleagues to vote yes. and with that i yield back. the chair: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from new york reserves. the gentleman from georgia. mr. collins: thank you, mr. speaker. i would remind the speaker that we did pass fix nics last year. we did take account into those. those things have been done. we are not moving a bill we don't feel works and we have offered an alternative. with that i yield two minutes to the gentleman from arizona, mr. biggs. the chair: the gentleman is recognized. mr. biggs: without an unconstitutional federal gun registry this bill is impossible to enforce. there is no gun show loophole. federal law is the same regardless of where a firearm sale takes place. federal law requires all firearms dealers to be licensed and to initiate a background check before transferring to a firearm to nondealer. regardless where that transfer takes place. as nor nondealers, federal law
prohibits a gun transfer to anyone that is not prohibited to possess a firearm. criminals in state prison for firearm crimes get their firearms from nondealers at gun shows. only 6%. online sales loophole, there is no online sales loophole. the federal law is the same regardless how people communicate about selling or buying a firearm. federal law prohibits anyone licensed firearm dealer or not from shipping a firearm to a person who lives in another state unless the seaver is also a dealer -- seaver is also a dealer. h.r. 8 fails to include any realistic exception to the new background check requirements for transfers such as transfers between law enforcement officers outside of their duties, transfer to conceal carry permit holders, transfers to museums or licensed collectors, transfers to active
duty military and many more. h.r. 8 includes an exception to the background check transfer if the transfer is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm. but that transfer is only allow for the length of time it's necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm but it doesn't even define those terms. what about a false alarm? does it extend to domestic violence fears that the person is not getting attacked immediately? gun rights groups have argued without a definition this provision would only provide protection in this instance where it's likely too late for the victim to make it out safely. finally, h.r. 8 would not have prevented any of the recent high-profile shootings. in those cases, they have passed a background check or stole the firearms they used. my time has expired. thank you. the chair: the gentleman from georgia reserves. the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: mr. chairman, i now yield two minutes to the distinguished gentleman from california, the chief author of
this legislation, chairman of the gun violence prevention task force, mr. thompson. the chair: the gentleman is recognized for two minutes. mr. thompson: i thank the gentleman for yielding. mr. speaker, i rise in strong support of my bill, h.r. 8, the bipartisan background checks act of 2019. first, i'd like to thank speaker pelosi and chairman nadler for their support. gun violence is a true national emergency, and i'm glad we are moving so early in this congress to address this crisis. i'd also like to thank my colleagues on the other side of the aisle who recognize the importance of passing this legislation. representatives king, fitzpatrick, mass, upton and smith who stand with over 90% of americans who support universal background checks. this bill will require a background check on all firearm sales and most transfers. mr. speaker, i'm a lifelong gun
owner. i'm a hunter. i support the second amendment. if this bill did anything to erode the rights of lawful gun owners, i wouldn't support it and it wouldn't have my name on it. background checks work. every day they stop 170 felons and 50 domestic abusers from getting a gun from a licensed dealer. but in some states, those same people can go into a gun show or go online and buy a gun without a background check. this bill will stop them from doing so. some argue the criminals won't follow the law. if that's the case, then why do we have laws against murder? people still commit murder. why do we have laws against stealing? people still steal. this is flawed logic. and don't fall for it. this bill is supported by law enforcement, medical professionals, veterans, gun owners, religious leaders, and the millions of americans who
took to the streets in support of h.r. 8. i ask that my colleagues support this bill and honor the lives lost with action. no more moments of silence with no action to follow. today your thoughts and your prayers aren't enough. today you can vote yes. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. -- the chair: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from new york reserves. the gentleman from georgia. mr. collins: thank you, mr. speaker. at this time i yield five minutes to the gentleman from colorado, mr. buck. the chair: the gentleman is recognized for five minutes. mr. buck: i thank the gentleman from georgia for yielding to me. and, mr. chairman, i rise to oppose h.r. 8. a bill that criminalizes gun transfers between law-abide -- law-abiding citizens who have no criminal record and no criminal intent. the bill includes several flawed and unworkable exceptions. take the law enforcement exception.
it allows the police to transfer a firearm but criminalizes transfers to law enforcement. under this bill, a parent whose child find as gun in a park commits a federal crime if the parent surrenders the gun to police. under this bill, a citizen commits a federal crime if they participate in a local gun buyback program. under this bill, an attorney commits a federal crime when they turn a client's gun over to the police to clear the client through ballistics testing. will criminalizing cooperation with law enforcement make us safer? the majority apparently think so and i think it's crazy. the democrats' bill gives special privileges to the bodyguards of the wealthy elite, like former mayor bloomberg, who is funding the special interest advocacy for this bill. he can afford to hire bodyguards. but average americans who rely on the second amendment as their source of personal protection are not given similar
protections. nothing should be more offensive to this body than a bill that denies citizens their endowed rights while giving wealthy elites special protections, privileges, dispensations. but that's h.r. 8. take the family exception. the rule allows a vote on an amendment to ensure that transfers between parent and child include step-parents and step-children. what about transfers between a foster parent and foster child? this bill says forest relationships are not worthy of the same -- foster relationships are not worthy of the same respect and equal treatment. each member of this body should be ashamed to vote for this bill that reflects such terrible policy and discrimination. take the good samaritan exception. allowing transfers where a threat of death or harm is imminent. imminent means death is menacingly near. a standard so strict that it's frankly too late to transfer a gun once it's obvious a gun is
needed for protection. under this standard, it is illegal to loan a gun to a victim of domestic violence for her protection until the transfer is practically witnessing a murder in progress. this standard would also prevent a gun owner who has intermittent suicidal thoughts, a known side effect of certain prescription medications, from legally transferring a gun, his own gun, to a friend for safe keeping. because this bill criminalizes transfers between law-abiding americans, while doing nothing to curb criminals' access to guns, this bill provides the american public with a false sense of security. because this bill includes unworkable exceptions that will mislead people into thinking a gun transfer is legal when it is not, this bill provides law-abiding gun owners with a false sense of immunity. mr. chairman, i urge a no vote on this totally and completely unconstitutional legislation that would deprive people of
their constitutional rights to keep and bear arms. i yield back. the chair: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from georgia reserves. the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: mr. speaker, i now yield 2 1/2 minutes to the gentlelady from georgia, a member of the committee, mrs. mcbath. the chair: the gentlelady is recognized for 2 1/2 minutes. mrs. mcbath: thank you, chairman nadler, and thank you, mr. speaker. today marks a very pick of toll moment in our fight to prevent gun violence and to ensure the safety of every community across our nation. thank you to the more than 230 of our colleagues who have co-sponsored h.r. 8, the bipartisan background checks act of 2019. thank you to you, mr. chairman, chairman nadler, speaker pelosi, and congressman thompson and congressman king, thank you so much for making gun violence prevention a priority in this congress. i am so proud to be an original
co-sponsor of this historic legislation. as many of you may know, gun violence is an issue that is deeply personal for me. gun violence prevention and a desire to make meaningful change is the very reason i am here today. in this legislative body, speaking to every one of you. in 2012, my son, jordan davis, was shot and killed by a man who opened fire on a car of unarmed teenagers at a gas station in jacksonville, florida, and my son was only 17 years of age. jordan would have turned 24 this month. after my son's death, i dedicated my entire life to advocating for commonsense gun safety solutions, but it was the shooting at marjory stoneman douglas high school in parkland, florida, last year that finally motivated me to join this legislative body. the overwhelming bipartisan
support for universal background checks symbolizes the power of advocacy and the incredible power of the survivors, family members and students who have shared their stories as they advocate for commonsense gun safety solutions and demand that we act to address gun violence. today we are truly taking this action. h.r. 8 will ensure that mothers and fathers have one less reason to worry. it will give students one less thing to fear when they walk into a school. most importantly, it will make our communities and our nation a safer place to live and every human being in america deserves such. i urge my colleagues to vote yes on h.r. 8, the bipartisan background checks act of 2019. it is time. and i yield back my time. thank you. the chair: the gentlelady yields
back the balance of her time. the gentleman from new york reserves. the gentleman from georgia. mr. collins: thank you, mr. speaker. i yield 2 1/2 noins the gentleman from florida. the chair: the gentleman is recognized for 2 1/2 minutes. mr. steube: thank you, mr. speaker. today i rise in opposition to h.r. 8. this legislation claims to be a solution to gun violence, yet does nothing to actually solve the real problems that contribute to this crisis. as it stands now, this legislation does nothing to make our schools, churches or communities safer. in fact, it only infringes on the constitutionally guaranteed second amendment rights of law-abiding citizens. something i cannot support. this bill will criminalize the private transfer of firearms and make exercising basic constitutional rights impossibleably expensive for millions of law-abiding americans. not to mention it is essentially unenforceable without a national gun registry. but let's be honest, that's where my colleagues on the other side of the aisle want to end up. registering firearms so they can take them away. we must stop our nation from falling down this slippery slope. we agree that something must be done, but h.r. 8 is not the answer.
this legislation would have done nothing to prevent many of the prominent tragedies that occurred in my home state of florida. the shooter at stoneman douglas high school in parkland passed a background check. the shooter at pulse night club in orlando passed a background check. and just weeks ago a man who murdered five women in my district passed a background check. h.r. 8 would have done nothing to stop these violent acts, just like the previous attempts to require universal background checks have done nothing to prevent actual crimes. if democrats were serious about gun violence, they would have voted for my amendment. i filed an amendment in committee that would have required law enforcement to be notified upon the attempt of someone to purchase a firearm and failed a background check. law enforcement would be notified. but instead of supporting policies that curtail illegal possession of firearms, the democrats on both the judiciary and rules committee rejected my proposal. how is that unreasonable? i stand for the constitution, i stand for freedom, and i stand for the second amendment. and that's why i'm not voting for this proposal. thank you, mr. speaker. the chair: the gentleman reserves.
the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: mr. speaker, i will point out that the bill says nothing in this act shall be construed to authorize the establishment directly or indirectly of a national firearms registry. i now yield one minute to the distinguished speaker of the house, the gentlelady from california. the chair: the gentlelady is recognized for a minute. the speaker: thank you, mr. speaker. i thank the gentleman for yielding. i thank him for his leadership as chair of the judiciary committee, for bringing us to this place promptly. a historic day in the congress of the united states. i thank you, mr. chairman. i thank our distinguished colleague from california, mr. mike thompson, for his relentless persistent leadership to make america safer by bringing forth commonsense background check legislation. he is a gun owner, a veteran, he's been on both sides of the gun. he is a hunter, he is an advocate for the second amendment, and as he said, this
-- if this did anything to diminish that, he would not have his name on it. i rise in support of this strong bipartisan bill. mr. thompson, and join you in commending mr. king of new york for making this initiative bipartisan from the start. in the previous congress and now. and it is a long overdue, commonsense action to end the epidemic of gun violence in america. let us salute again the persistent leadership of so many in this body and, again, mr. thompson, as chair of the gun violence prevention task force, you worked in a bipartisan way to protect our communities and we're grateful to you for that. but you know, we can do all the inside maneuvering that we want and that is really important and essential. but without the outside mobilization, we cannot enjoy the success of saving lives and making progress. so i want to thank the courageous advocates who are here today in the gallery. including march for our lives
and moms demand action, and so many more. they have made a complete difference. as president lincoln says, public sentiment is everything, with it you can accomplish almost anything. without it, almost nothing. and thank you for being public sentiment to a point where now about 90% of the american people support commonsense background checks legislation. including many members, courageously, of the national rifle association. this bill is proudly bipartisan because gun violence prevention should not be a democratic or a republican issue. gun violence does not discriminate by party or politics. it reaches into all of our communities, into our schools, our places of worship, our workplaces and our streets and it will require all of our ourage to defeat it. last night we were at the
occasion to mark the anniversary of the brady bill. many of us, some of us were in congress at the time. many of us admired the work, the courageous work of sara and jim brady to make the country a safer place by reducing gun violence. 25 years ago we enacted the brady background check system, which has denied more than three million sales to potentially dangerous individuals. yet the brady bill does not stop people from purchasing guns from unlicensed sellers without a background check at gun shows and online. we must pass h.r. 8 to close this dangerous loophole and keep our communities safe from gun violence. that's what we are intending to do today. george shaw said, it's a mark of a truly intelligent person to be moved by statistics. and here are the facts. nearly 40,000 lives are cut short every year from gun
violence. an average of 47 children and teenagers are killed by guns every single day. it's all about the children, the children, the children. we read about the tragic mass murders that have happened in our country. but we also have -- and they stir us to action, hopefully. here it's been they stir us to a moment of silence. .nd now finally to action day,t is -- it's the every every day 47 children and teenagers killed by guns. and again, another figure, harkening back to 90% of the american people want commonsense universal background checks. the statistics spell out the story, but it is the human personal stories that change minds.
ow moving it was to hear our colleague, congresswoman mcbath, with her generosity of spirit, tell her personal story of losing her son, jordan, can't even imagine carrying that burden. but turning her grief and her tragedy into action and courage, to run for congress, to stand on this floor and share her personal story with us. that takes real courage. . there is no person in this body whose political survival is more important than the survival of our children. we're grateful, again, it young people, parents, survivors across america who have told their stories. marched for their lives, and demanded change.
this bill delivers that change ensuring that people who are in danger to themselves and others cannot purchase a gun and perpetuate violence in our communities. this week the house will build on this progress by passing another bipartisan background check bill. we must close the charleston loophole that enabled the hate ime at the african methodist piscopal church. that's another part of strengthening the background check. as members of congress again we take an oath to protect and defend the constitution, the american people. to honor that oath torques honor the victims of gun violence and their families, the congress must take real action on this. today we must pass this bill and take the first steps towards
ending the senseless crisis of gun violence in our nation. again, i hope that all of us will have the courage to save lives remembering no one's political survival here is more important than the survival of the american people, especially our children. i urge a strong bipartisan yes vote and pray that we can can do the right thing and send a clear message to the families of those who have lost their loved ones to gun violence that we have crossed a threshold here today to reduce gun violence in our country and take more steps to improve the safety of the american people. honoring the constitution of the united states, respectful of our hunters and the need for people to defend themselves, but in doing so in a way that does not endanger others.
with that i yield back the balance of my time. the chair: the gentlelady yields back. members are reminded to avoid referencing occupants of the gallery. the gentleman from georgia. mr. collins: thank you, mr. speaker. i agree, i believe facts are are important and strength to tell that. i believe as the chairman just redid that he explained why this bill will not operate because of the very fact that inside the bill itself it does not have a registry, which i will remind the speaker, that the department of justice under president obama said a universal back fwround check bill would not work without a registry and is along the websites of many advocates for this bill. that is one of the areas we look at as we go forward in realizing this is already gutted itself. with that i yield three minutes to the gentleman from virginia, mr. kline. the chair: the gentleman from virginia is recognized for three minutes. mr. kline: thank you, mr. speaker. i want to thank the previous speaker, the speaker of the house, for her remarks, reminding us all it is california where michael
bloomberg and the gun control advocates have established their utopia of a land without guns. what has it led us to? with the strictest -- some of the strictest gun control laws in the land, we have some of the worst incidents of gun violence in the country. gun control measures do not address the problems of gun violence and this bill will not address gun violence. i rise in strong opposition to h.r. , the legislation is an attempt to h.r. 8, the legislation is an attempt to take away our second amendment rights. my colleagues on the other side of the aisle claim the bill will save lives but nothing in this bill would have stopped any of the recent mass casualty shootings that have occurred in our country. the only thing this bill does is limit the second amendment rights of law-abiding citizens. they'll tell you this bill closes loopholes, however the loophole they believe exists is private gun ownership. and what they really want is to regulate the private transfers
of firearms. if my neighbor's in trouble and needs to borrow a firearm to protect his family, i should be allowed to loan that firearm to my neighbor. this is not something we should need to go to the federal government to get permission to do. the second amendment does not say that after you get permission from the government your right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. our founding fathers wrote the constitution to protect us from the government and gave individuals the second amendment to protect themselves. i carry this constitution every day on the campaign trail last fall, i carry it with me every day now to remind myself of those protection that is were given to us not by government but by god. this bill's nothing more than an attempt to advance the agenda of radical gun grabbers and lay the foundation for a national gun registration scheme. i urge the house to reject this misguided legislation so we can begin having real discussions about ways to reduce crime
across this great nation. with that i yield back the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from georgia reserves. the gentleman from new york. mr. engel: i now yield one minute to the distinguished gentlelady from texas, a member of the committee, mr. garcia. the chair: the gentlelady is recognized for one minute. miss gar he see ya: i thank the chairman for yielding -- ms. garcia: i thank the chairman for yielding and rise today to express my strong support for this bill, the bipartisan background checks act. since the brady law was enacted in 1994, many american lives have been saved, murders have fallen by at least 32% and our community streets are safer and stronger as a result. but our work is not done. in houston alone we see an average of 550 acts of gun violence per year. too many of our loved ones are lost to senseless gun violence that could be prevented by keeping firearms out of dangerous hands.
we know expanded background checks work. states require background checks on all handgun sales to be half as many mass shootings as states without the expanded requirements. that is why i'm a proud sponsor -- co-sponsor of h.r. 8. this commonsense bill will prevent private firearm sales to prohibit purchasers and close online and gun show loopholes. while this bill does not cover everything, it is a step in the right direction that will make my district, houston, texas, and this country safer. thank you, mr. speaker. i yield back the balance of my time. the chair: the gentlelady's time has expired. the gentleman from georgia. mr. collins: mr. speaker, may i request time for both sides. the chair: the gentleman from eorgia has 11 1/2 minutes. the gentleman from new york has 15 3/4 minutes. 16, sorry.
mr. collins: thank you, mr. speaker. at this time i will yield three minutes to the gentleman from minnesota. the chair: the gentleman is recognized for three minutes. >> thank you, mr. speaker. my name is pete stauber and i was a law enforcement officer for 23 years in the great state of minnesota, city of delute. in december of 1995 at 10:3 p.m. at the intersection of sixth avenue east and fourth street a criminal who should not have had a firearm tried to take my life. i was shot in the head and by the grace of god i survived. a few years after that while on duty in a hostage situation, another criminal pulled a gun on me. face-to-face i was staring down a barrel of a handgun. the suspect pulled the trigger, the gun malfunctioned, and i was in a fight for my life. when it was all over, by the grace of god i was alive. the individual's handcuffed.
both those individuals were career criminals. back to what i was shot in the head, mr. speaker, i begged the u.s. attorney along with our police department to charge the individual with the felony -- possession of a handgun. by a felon. they didn't do it. that individual was allowed to circumvent our community for another eight years before he was finally put in prison where he belonged. o more harming other people. representative collins' mass violent prevention act gets the countities attorneys and federal attorneys present to prosecute these individuals that have no respect for life. i carried a handgun for 23 years, mr. speaker, as a tool to defend myself or somebody else's life from great bodily harm.
i support the individual right of law-abiding citizens the right to keep and bear arms. both my wife and i live in rural minnesota. when we need to protect ourselves, when it takes a while for law enforcement to get there, we have the ability. there is nobody i know that wants somebody that is going through a mental health issue or a career criminal or drug dealer to have these. we need to start respecting life . life is precious. from conception to natural death . i am a very proud husband of an iraq war veteran. who understands the value of life. mr. speaker, i rise against this. there are better ways to get mothers and fathers, county attorneys, federal prosecutors,
local police departments, sheriff's departments to work together to have a fusion center so when a young individual types into the computer i want to be a mass school shooter, there is an instant response. to identify the individual and work through it. i yield the rest of my time. thank you, mr. speaker. the chair: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: mr. speaker, i now yield 1 1/2 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from florida, member of the committee, mr. deutch. the chair: the gentleman is recognized for 1 1/2 minutes. mr. deutch: mr. speaker, we introduced h.r. 8 eight years ago after our friend and former colleague gabby giffords was shot and nearly killed . when she was by our side to introduce the bill, she said speaking is still difficult for me, but i don't think i can make myself more clear. congress must act to make our country safer from gun violence. now is that time.
we have waited too long to close loopholes that let people easily avoid background checks through private sales. i cried with too many survivors and attended too many funerals. i marched with too many student activists and bowed my head through too many moments of silence. we know strong gun laws work. in the 25 years since the brady law took effect, background checks have stopped more than three million gun sales and saved countless lives. it's time to expand the brady law, time to close the dangerous loopholes. it's past time for congress to take action to save lives from gun violence. mr. speaker, this is not a moment of silence. this is not a sit-in. this is action by the united states house of representatives on behalf of everyone who has pleaded for that action after san bernardino and after southern springs and foothood and is recognized and columbine and sandy hook and pulse and everyday gun violence in our
communities. and, yes, after parkland. let's represent the 95% of the american people who want us to take this action to help save lives. let's pass h.r. 8. i yield back the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from georgia. mr. collins: thank you, mr. speaker. before i deal with the gentleman's comments. it is quoted here 95% of the people want universal background checks. when actually put to the voters of maine, the voters of maine rejected it. i understand where they are coming from. on that, with that i yield two minutes to the gentleman from nebraska, mr. smith. the chair: the gentleman is recognized for two minutes. mr. smith: i rise today to defend the second amendment rights of law-abiding nebraskans. in nebraska the need for firearms is the same today as it was even when the second amendment was enacted before we were even a territory of the united states. rural nebraskans depend on their firearms for self-defense and protecting their livestock.
they also know how to handle firearms to store them securely, to handle them appropriately, and perhaps to even let neighbors who are able to use them safely borrow them to meet their needs. i have serious concerns the bills we're considering today and tomorrow are going to criminalize this behavior for nebraskans who have done this for generations and won't even know they are breaking the law. should ranch who are lends a rifle to neighbor to address threats from predatory animals face a year in prison and a $100,000 fine? no. should a legally caring farmer injured at work be subject to arrest for handling -- handing his firme arm off before being taken to the hospital? no. these are exactly the situations this bill would create while doing little to address the real problems underlying crime in our society. this is a bad bill and i urge its swift rejection. i yield back. the chair: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: mr. speaker, i i now yield two minutes to the
gentlelady from texas, ms. jackson lee. the chair: the gentlelady from texas is recognized for two minutes. i thank the e: chairman and i certainly thank the ranking member for being present here today. . i hold up in my hand pages and pages of mass shootings. thank you to all of those who have offered themselves in this fight. thank you to our chair, mr. thompson, for constant and persistent work, through my tenure as ranking member of the crime subcommittee, it has given me a picture that many have not seen. and that is that we have been fighting for gun safety legislation for almost three decades. it seems that even though mr. cohen is in a hearing right now where facts are being disputed, there are no facts to dispute,
the fact that people die from the hands of guns. and those who get guns are never regulated. and by no means do i want you not to have a handgun to protect yourself or to enforce gun trafficking laws or to make sure that prosecutors prosecute those for gun possession. but it begs the question, what is the question? the interpretation of the second amendment is no one should prohibit the right to bear arms, and as i stand here today, there is nothing in the underlying bill that is prohibiting that. it is simply giving common sense and dignity to those who died at columbine high school shooting, atlanta shooting, wedgewood baptist church, the lockheed martin shooting, living church of god shooting, northern illinois shooting, santa fe shooting in texas, marjory stoneman douglas high school shooting. it says that you have to have a check, a background check. it closes the gun show loophole. it gives exemptions in the issues of domestic violence and
sexual assault it. allows families to transfer -- assault. it allows families to transfer, ranchers, farmers to transfer. what more do we want? people have died. are we not going to show that we are committed to saving lives, not to abuse the second amendment, to misuse it, we can bear arms. but the question is, whether or not we will recognize that there are 350 million-plus americans and there are more guns in this country than there are citizens. i beg of my colleagues, stop the mockery. vote for this bill. i yield back. the chair: the gentlelady's time has expired. the gentleman from georgia. mr. collins: thank you, mr. speaker. at this time i yield two minutes to the gentleman from alabama, mr. byrne. the chair: the gentleman is recognized for two minutes. mr. byrne: mr. speaker, i rise in strong opposition to this bill. let's be very clear on this. h.r. 8 will not prevent criminals from getting their hands on firearms. what h.r. 8 will do is violate the constitutional rights of
millions of americans. under this bill, almost every time a lawful gun owner wants to transfer or sell a gun, he or she will have to go through a government-sanctioned intermediary. under this bill, no longer could i let my cousin or my neighbor borrow my gun. if this bill becomes law, overnight millions of law-abiding gun owners could suddenly be subject to federal prosecution. of course we all know that criminals are going to do what they already do. make illegal transfers of firearms. we've heard a lot about how this is going to be the most open congress in history. well, mr. speaker, i filed an amendment that would strip out the text of h.r. 8 and replace it with a nationwide concealed carry reciprocity. mr. speaker, the democratic leadership blocked a vote on my amendment. what are they so afraid of? i guess they think they can shield their members from votes to protect the amendment -- protect the second amendment and protect law-abiding gun owners. i have news for the majority. the gun owners of america are
watching this debate. they know what h.r. 8 is all about. and they know that this is just a sham to chip away at the second amendment and our constitution. i will oppose this bill and any bill that goes against the second amendment rights of law-abiding americans. i urge my colleagues to join me in voting no and fighting against this assault on the second amendment. and i yield back. the chair: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: mr. speaker, i now yield two minutes to the distinguished gentleman from georgia, mr. lewis. the chair: the gentleman from georgia is recognized for two minutes. mr. lewis: mr. speaker, i want to thank my friend, the chairman, for yielding. mr. speaker, i rise in strong support of this bipartisan bill. tlanta, chicago, pittsburgh,
charleston, oak creek, orlando, las vegas and many other places. how many more must suffer? how many more must die? for years the people spoke up, mothers called, fathers cried, students marched. but congress offered a blind eye. today we say to those who begged, pleaded for us to act, that we see you. we feel your pain. we heard your cries. and we are going to answer today, now. we sat in on this floor. i want to thank the chair of our task force, mike thompson, for never giving up, for never giving in. for keeping the faith.
for keeping your eyes on the prize. we are doing the right thing today. we have a mission, we have an obligation, and a mandate to pass this bipartisan bill that must become public law. today i urge all of my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to vote yes. it is good. it is the right thing to do to save lives and stop this madness. and with that, mr. speaker, i yield back the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from georgia. mr. collins: i'm going to reserve. the chair: the gentleman reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: mr. speaker, i now yield one minute to the distinguished gentleman from georgia, mr. johnson. the chair: the gentleman from georgia is recognized for one minute. mr. johnson: thank you, mr. speaker. i rise in strong support of h.r. 8. i want to commend the efforts of
congressman mike thompson from california for introducing this commonsense legislation. what it simply does is require that all sales of firearms go through a licensed firearms dealer who has to run a background check. current law mandates that all licensed gun dealers before transferring a weapon have to perform a background check. the problem we have in this country is the law so allows unlicensed firearm dealers competing with licensed firearms dealers to sell just as many firearms as a licensed gun dealer, but without doing the background check. that enables criminals and people who should not have weapons to have firearms and that contributes to the proliferation of weaponry on our street in the hands of those who should not have it. it produces violence and we're
looking to stop the violence with this legislation. and so i ask my colleagues to support it and i yield back. the chair: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from georgia reserves. the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: mr. speaker, i now yield one minute to the gentleman from california, mr. swalwell. the chair: the gentleman from california is recognized for one minute. mr. speaker, today we tell our fellow americans that their children's right to learn without fear, that their own right to dance at a concert, worship at a synagogue, shop at the mall, that all of those ights to come home and to live and love are greater than any other right in the constitution. this bill puts in place an expansion of violent history checks on firearm purchases
where there were too many gaps before. it will not end every gun violence death in america. but we should try. it also will get rid of this argument that, in states like california and illinois, where you have gun violence, you can no longer say, well, they have tough background checks there, it's not working, well, no, we are only as safe as the loft common denominator. and -- lowest common denominators. and if our states have lower restrictions when it comes to purchasing a firearm, we are only as safe as they are. we will have a nationwide background check that will make sure all of us are safe. we are here, mr. speaker, because of mr. thompson, because of every town and march for our life. keep marching. you got to us this point. i yield back. the chair: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from georgia continues to reserve. the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: mr. speaker, how much time do i have left, please? the chair: the gentleman has 9 1/4 minutes. mr. nadler: and the gentleman
from georgia? the chair: 5 3/4 minutes. mr. nadler: mr. speaker, i now yield one minute to the distinguished gentleman from maryland, mr. brown. the chair: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. antonio brown mr. speaker, i rise in support of h.r. 8. this bill is long overdue. for too long congress has failed to end the cycle of gun violence and death that too many families are now familiar with. mr. brown: in 2017 alone, 40,000 people died from gun violence. congress did nothing. last year five reporters at the capital gazette in my district were murdered in cold blod in a mass shooting -- blood in a mass shooting that took place in their news room. congress did nothing. gun violence is a crisis in our communities, a real national emergency that will no long beer -- longer be met with inaction. for the first time since congress passed the brady act of
1994, we'll pass a bill in pursuit of our effort to protect our communities and end the scourge of gun violence. the american people overwhelmingly want us to act. and for the people, we will pass universal background checks out of the house as our first piece of comprehensive gun safety reform. mr. speaker, today is only the beginning. the chair: the gentleman's time has expired. mr. collins: continue to reserve. the chair: the gentleman reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: mr. speaker, i now yield two minutes to the distinguished gentlelady from pennsylvania, a member of the committee, ms. dean. the chair: the gentlelady from pennsylvania is recognized for two minutes. ms. dean: thank you, mr. speaker. i'm delighted that we are finally at this day. because you know the tide, you
know the toll that takes place every day. on average, every day in merica, 342 people are shot, murdered, assaults, suicides or suicide attempts. that means every single day, yesterday, tomorrow, and the next day, and the next day, 100 people on average will die of gun violence, and another 200 or more will literally be wounded, shot, in the crossfire. we know that in 2017 more than 39,000, nearly 40,000 people died of gun violence. all kinds of gun violence. that was an extraordinary uptick in gun violence. i carry with me today the pictures of ben wheeler whose courageous mother testified before the pennsylvania house of representatives in 2014. i carry with me today the son of my dear friend, marge, who died of gun violence by suicide.
ron. and i carry with me, not by picture, but in my heart, the 16-year-old son of my former student at la salle university who was shot in random gun violence on the city of -- in the city of philadelphia. mr. speaker, i rise in strong support of h.r. 8. and in conclusion, mr. speaker, mr. chairman, i long for the day when orange ribbons are objects sleet -- obsolete and when orange scarfs are fashion statement, not a statement -- scarfs are a fashion -- scarves are a fashion statement, not a sfamente for a cry -- statement for a cry for help. the chair: the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: mr. speaker, i now yield 1 1/2 minutes to the distinguished the gentlelady from pennsylvania, also a member of the committee, ms. scanlon. the chair: the gentlelady is recognized for 1 1/2 minutes. ms. scanlon: mr. speaker, just two weeks ago in my district, six lives, six families were
forever changed by gun violence in a six-day period. four people were killed and two were injured in six different shootings. one person was 28. the other five were 16, 17 and 18 year olds. they were teenagers. my heart goes out to all those victims' families. but thoughts and prayers are no longer enough. it is long past time that our actions speak louder than our words. no matter which state we're from, with over 40,000 gun violence deaths last year, every state has been severely impacted by gun violence. the public health crisis has been politicized and weaponized as a means to divide us, despite the fact that it's a crisis that should bind us together. and we must come together. background checks are the foundation of commonsense gun policy, and they're supported by the overwhelming majority of
americans. our current system fails us in two ways that the bills we're looking at this week are designed to address. under current law, firearms sales can proceed regardless of if a background check comes back within a three-day period, and it doesn't capture all the sales. so this puts an incredible burden on law enforcement, an incredible burden on a.t.f. agents who have to go reclaim guns that are sold despite the owner of the gun not being able to pass the background check, so for too long those in a position to act have failed to do so. but that ends now. i strongly support the commonsense gun legislation in h.r. 8 and h.r. 1112. thank you. the chair: the gentlelady's time has expired. the gentleman from georgia. mr. collins: thank you, mr. speaker. again agree with the sentiment that we need to actually fashion something that will work. unfortunately this for many reasons we've already stated
will no. and with that i reserve. . the chair: the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler clorp i now yield -- mr. nadler: i now yield one minute to the distinguished minority leader, mr. hoyer. the chair: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. thank the gentleman for yielding. my friend, the gentleman from georgia, just rose and said this on't work. we have risen on this floor time after time after time, after time and had a moment of silence. .ollowed by no action i will tell my friend from i want to tell my
friend from georgia, as i said time after time we have had a moment of silence. i will tell my friend from georgia it hasn't worked. it has been appropriate, but it has not worked. can can can we guarantee that this will work to make every person safe? it cannot. it will not. but i rise in strong support of doing something. and in this case doing something hat 90% of america supports. mr. chairman, this house is finally going to do its job and take action not just a moment of silence but action to address the epidemic of gun violence in our country.
after the tragedies at sandy ook, orlando, las vegas, charleston, tree of life synagogue, great mills high the housemy district, under the previous leadership did nothing. it didn't work. after the shooting just down the street at the washington navy yard, the republican controlled house did nothing. three of the victims of that attack were constituents of mine. living in southern maryland. dr. wendy edmundses and wanda wallace are in the gallery, mr. chairman. sister of sylvia frazier, a navy yard shooting victim. montana geimer, daughter ever wendy winters, a writer for the
capital gazette, which my colleague, mr. brown, just spoke, and mackenzie, a high school student that organized march for our lives rally in anne arundel county. they are here with us today. not to have a moment of silence but to have a moment of action. many of our districts have been painfully affected by gun violence. in saint mary's county, maryland, a student was killed by a shooter at great mills high school and courageous school resource officer there saved countless other lives. in annapolis, five staff of the capital gazette were gunned down in their newsroom. for years the american people have demanded action to address gun violence. after the parkland shooting, just over a year ago, students marched in cities from
coast-to-coast to demand that congress protect them in the classroom. in the streets, in houses of worship, and in all public gathering places. i, as i'm sure many of you had, had the opportunity to meet with many of the students who participated in the march for our lives and heard the determination in their voices as they spoke about working to achieve a future where students would no longer have to practice active shooter drills. in their schools. i i found their courage and persistence deeply inspiring. now with a change in the majority control, we're bringing to the floor legislation supported by, as i said, nine , including aricans
majority of responsible gun owners, to expand criminal background checks. haveke sure that those who a criminal past a. past of violence, domestic or otherwise, a -- past of violence, domestic or otherwise, on the no-fly list as they are perceived as possibly a terrorist that they won't be able to buy a gun. does that mean they will not get a gun? it does not. i understand that. as i told my friend from georgia, the moment of silence have not worked. they were appropriate, understand, but they didn't work. we will also be voting this week on legislation offered by our whip, mr. clyburn, to close the loophole that contributed to the horrific mass shooting at mother emanuel a.m.e. church in charleston in 2015. mr. chairman, i urge the senate
to follow the house and pass the legislation we advance and i call on the president to sign it without delay. mr. chairman, ladies and us lemen of this house, let not have a moment of silence for this legislation. do not let it die. do not let the hope that it provides die. do not let us stand by one more ime and to lament a death of a constituent, a friend, a ighbor, a fellow citizen who dies at the hand of a gun purchased illegally. or by someone who should not have a gun. this is not about taking away
guns. it's about preventing guns getting in the hands of people who do bad things. -- and we can predict can predict they are a danger to others. let us not have a moment of silence for this bill. let us pass it. let the senate pass it. let the president sign it. let's make an effort at least to stop the carnage. and i yield back the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from georgia. mr. collins: thank you, mr. speaker. i appreciate it. i appreciate the words of the majority leader. however will i say that in previous congress, this congress did pass fix nics and the stop school violence act and other reasons is probably why the majority leader voted against those bills which they were included. i do agree with him the moment of silence may not have stopped but it did call upon a higher power we're fragile human beings
involved in tragedies. i remind the folks that this bill will also not do what as many times been promoted for 20 do because many of these mass violence episodes would not have affected by this bill. with that i yield three minutes to the gentleman from louisiana, mr. scalise. the chair: the gentleman is recognized for three minutes. mr. scalise: thank you, mr. chairman. i rise in strong opposition to these gun control bills that are being brought forward. they are brought forward under the guise of background checks. let's look at what these bills would actually do. we had identified many number of problems with this bill that we were trying to improve and every one of those was shut out, shut out by the democrat majority who wanted to try to stifle the opposing side's debate because they think just saying background checks makes this a good bill. let's talk about what this bill will do to make criminals, felons, out of law-abiding
citizens. if you loan your gun to a friend under this bill, maybe they are thinking of buying a similar gun to o protect themselves, and they want to go to the shooting range to see if this gun is the right kind of gun to protect themselves, which they have a right to do under the second amendment of this constitution, loaning your gun to that friend and that act would make you you a felon subject to a year in jail. subject to a $100,000 fine. mr. chairman. we tried to fix that. they shut that amendment out. in this bill if you loan your gun to a friend and maybe she's been a victim of domestic violence, and one of my colleagues who is here in opposition to this bill is one of those victims of domestic violence, she had an amendment to fix this bill. to say if she's got a temporary restraining order against her boyfriend who has been beating her, she's afraid he's going to come back tonight, under one of the bills if she goes to buy a gun tonight, and the fix nics system isn't working, she might
have to wait 20 business days to get that gun. now, good luck if the boyfriend shows up to beat her up that night and she says don't worry, i'm on day eight, i only have another 12 days before i can buy the gun, will you come back so i can defend myself then. do you think that's going to happen? you know what that means to her. so in the bill we said what if you can can loan your gun to her. she goes to you, she goes to a friend, says i know you have a gun, don't have a gun, i'm trying to protect myself because i have a t.r.o. but i know he's going to come back. under this bill you will be a felon. a year in jail. $100,000 fine. we tried to fix that, too, mr. chairman. and they shut that amendment out. that's what this bill does. and oh, by the way, we're talking about law-abiding citizens here. if you go hunting with a buddy and you try to loan your gun to a buddy, they say there is an exemption in the bill, but it's written so vaguely that you not only need to bring your hunting partner, you might need to bring
your attorney to find out if loaning your shotgun to your friend makes you a felon under this bill. these are law-abiding citizens. these are people who use guns to defend themselves, which is the basis of the second amendment. our founding fathers believed every american has a right to defend themselves because every day on average in this country guns are used by good people to defend themselves against bad people. and it's going to make it harder for them to get access to these guns. to defend themselves. so again we tried to fix some of these problems. let me tell but another problem we tried to identify and fix. if you loan your gun, you will be a felons. - they- the chair: the gentleman is recognized for additional 30 seconds. mr. scalise: we identified areas where law-abiding citizens can become felons. we tried to fix t they wanted that to stay in place. so what is that motivation? then we identified another problem.
someone who is in this country illegal goes to buy a gun and the system flags them. and it says wait a minute, this person's not even here legally, they are breaking federal law trying to buy a gun, we said we should notify i.c.e. so at least our border patrol agents in the interior can deport them. they blocked that amendment. so now law-abiding citizen can become a felon under their bill, but someone who is here illegally trying to buy a gun in violation of law can't be turned over to authorities. this is a bad gun control bill. we ought to reject it. i yield back the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: mr. speaker, i just want to point out the penalty in this bill that keeps being cited is $100,000 is in fact $1,000. i reserve. the chair: the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from georgia. mr. collins: thank you, mr. speaker. at this time i would request of the chairman does he have any ore speakers at this time?
one more? 'll reserve. the chair: the chair would remind all persons in the gallery they are here as guests of the house and that any manifestation of approval or disapproval of proceedings is in violation of the rules of the house. and members reminded to avoid referencing occupants of the gallery. the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: thank you, mr. speaker. i yield two minutes to the distinguished author of the bill, the gentleman from california, mr. thompson. mr. thompson: i thank the gentleman for yielding. i was asked to talk about some of the outrageous allegations that were made about this bill. the chairman already cleared one up and that's the $100,000 fine that we're hearing from the other side. it's $1,000. as was pointed out.
we also heard that this isn't constitutional. well, the constitution is pretty clear, individuals have a right to bear arms. nobody's disputing that. as a matter of fact it was settled in the heller vs. the district of columbia, but also in that opinion was justice scalia's remarks that stated that government also has a responsibility and right to regulate firearms. that's all we're doing. we're saying that people who were felons, domestic abusers, dangerously mentally ill, danger to themselves or others shouldn't be able to have guns. i don't think anybody can dispute that. and how do you find out if you don't do a background check? my friends on the other side of the aisle said this won't -- we heard it 100 times this. won't work. we have been working on this for 6 1/2 years. ever since sandy hook. we have pleaded with the other side to work with us. have a hearing. what are your ideas?
absolute silence from them. absolute silence. this does work. we know that licensed dealers stop the sale of firearms to 170 felons every day. 50 domestic abusers every day. because they are required to do background checks. but in some states that same individual can be found to be prohibited, walk outside and go to a gun show or go online and buy a gun without the benefit of a background check. that is wrong. countless speakers from the other side of the aisle said this wouldn't have stopped this crime, this wouldn't have stopped this mass shooting, this wouldn't have stopped that mass shooting. well, my friends, if that's your standard, if you will only support a bill that will stop every mass shooting, that will stop every death by a firearm, that means you want to get rid of all guns and no one on this side of the aisle is saying
that. mr. nadler: i yield the gentleman additional minutes. mr. thompson: the only way you can ensure there will never be another person murdered by someone with a gun is to do away with all guns. we have recognized that from day one. numerous speakers have said, just today on this floor, this will not stop every death. but it will stop some. and it's certainly worth pursuing. i urge your aye vote. i yield back the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from georgia. mr. collins: i thank you, mr. chairman. is this now, mr. chairman, the final speaker? mr. nadler: i'm prepared to close. mr. collins: we're prepared to close as well. mr. speaker, before i close, i would like to say that i agree with the statement from the gentleman just now that there may be ones turned away, but there's only 60 a year prosecuted for what is a crime. this doesn't address that. with that, i yield the remainder of my time to the gentleman from
north carolina, mr. budd. mr. budd: i thank my friend from georgia, mr. collins. for allowing me the time and, mr. speaker, thank you as well. so i rise today in opposition of h.r. 8, and want to lay out a couple of reasons for my opposition. but before i do, i think it's important to acknowledge how polarizing this debate has become over the last several years. more specifically, i want this body to know that as a human being, as an american, as a father, when i see the heartbreaking news of a mass shooting like the one we saw just 54 weeks ago in parkland, that it just breaks my heart. with that being said, this bill that we're voting on today would not have done anything to stop that tragedy from happening. nor would it have prevented any of those recent mass shootings. the 19-year-old murderer in parkland passed a background check. the man who murdered 26 innocent people at first baptist church in soggetter lind springs also passed a background check, although he wouldn't have the air force had passed along his criminal information like they
were supposed to have done. and the evil that took place in sandy hook wouldn't have been stopped by this bill either. the killer used his mother's guns to kill her and 26 others. they were bought legally. mr. speaker, the simple fact is that criminals don't abide by the law and this would only create traps for law-abiding gun owners. however, there are actions so that we can take, actions that we can do, that would make meaningful strides in combating the violence we see today. one example of something we can do to improve information sharing between law enforcement officials across this country -- the chair: the gentleman had suspend. -- will suspend. mr. budd: to close i want to say -- the chair: the gentleman's time has expired. mr. budd: i disagree with the policy of this bill. with that, i close. the chair: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: mr. speaker, i yield myself the balance of our time. the chair: the gentleman is recognized. mr. nadler: mr. speaker, we've heard the other side here say that some people lie on the
forms, they're not prosecuted. that may be. and maybe law enforcement ought to prosecute more people. but that doesn't negate the necessity for the bill. it doesn't negate the fact that too many people who shouldn't have guns, who are mentally unstable, who have committed crimes, who are abusers get guns because they buy a gun at a gun show or not from a registered gun dealer, and therefore do not have to undergo a background check. everyone who gets a gun should have to undergo a background check. with the few exceptions we put in the bill. mr. chairman, h.r. 8 is legislation that's long overdue for passage by this body and for enactment. so that we can take a critical step overwhelmingly supported by the american people to protect us from gun violence. we have had too many moments of silence, too many expressions of sympathy, too many deaths. 39,000 deaths from guns last year. but little action here in congress on this issue.
today we act. i urge my colleagues to vote in support of this vital bill, to start taking back our streets from the killers, to start blocking people who shouldn't have them from having guns, save our lives. i yield back the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. all time for general debate has expired. pursuant to the rule, the bill shall be considered for amendment under the five-minute rule. in lieu of the amendment in the nature of a substitute recommended by the committee on judiciary, printed in the bill, it shall be in order to consider as an original bill for the purpose of amendment under the five-minute rule an amendment in the nature of a substitute consisting of the text of rules committee print 116-5. that amendment in the nature of a substitute will be considered as read. no amendment to that amendment in the nature of a substitute shall be in order except for those printed in part a of house report 116-14.
each such amendment may be offered only in the order printed in the report, by a member designated in the report, shall be considered read, and shall be debatable for the time specified in the report, equally divided and controlled by the proponent and an opponent, shall not be subject to amendment, and shall not be subject to a demand or division of the question. it is now in order to consider amendment number 1 printed in 116-14.f house report for what purpose does the gentlewoman from arizona seek recognition? mrs. lesko: thank you, mr. chairman. i have an amendment at the desk. the chair: the clerk will designate the amendment. the clerk: amendment number 1 printed in part a of house report 116-14 offered by mrs. lesko of arizona. the chair: pursuant to house
resolution 145, the gentlewoman from arizona, mrs. lesko, and a member opposed will each control five minutes. the chair recognizes the gentlewoman from arizona. mrs. lesko: thank you, mr. chairman. this amendment would allow gun owners to legally transfer their firearms to individuals who have -- in the ed and t.s.a.'s precheck program. t.s.a. precheck identifies trusted travelers and thus allows ex peedated movement through -- ex peedated movement through airport security. in order to receive t.s.a. precheck, one must submit an application have an in-person interview, and go through a background check and fingerprinting. fingerprinting is not required currently to purchase a gun. thus a t.s.a. precheck background check is more stringent. if an individual can pass this background check and be admitted
to this federal government program, there is no reason why they shouldn't be able to borrow a firearm from a friend. they have already gone through a more extensive background check system than to acquire a weapon. the current background check does not require fingerprints, a t.s.a. precheck does. membership to t.s.a. precheck must be renewed every five years. again, the t.s.a. precheck process requires fingerprints and an in-person interview. the process currently for purchasing a gun requires neither of those under federal law. it appears then that t.s.a. precheck background is more expensive process -- extensive process. h.r. 8 restricts not only the purchase but also the everyday gun transfer for law-abiding citizens. this amendment and many other republican amendments, including
, i think i have five others, that were not made in order seek to give some relief to law-abiding citizens from this overarching and burdensome legislation. in h.r. 8, we are not only talking about the purchase of firearms, we are talking about the transfer of firearms, which includes lending your firearm. the democrats have proposed a bill that would criminalize millions of law-abiding americans, because this bill uses ambiguous, overarching and vague language, it encompasses so many potential situations. this amendment seeks to give some relief. if we are going to allow americans to be given expedient and reduce screening in our most sensitive and secure environments, in the u.s. airport getting on a plane, why wouldn't we allow them to lend a
gun to their friend? h.r. 8 criminalizes me and others just for handing someone a firearm who isn't a direct family member or in other very narrow situations. in fact, as i said yesterday, the language in bill is so ambiguous, what is imminent danger? there is no definition in the bill. mr. chairman, i reserve the balance of my time. the chair: the gentlelady reserves the balance of her time. does anyone seek time in opposition? mr. nadler: i seek time in opposition. the chair: the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: thank you. the chair: is recognized for five minutes. mr. nadler: thank you. mr. speaker, i rise in opposition to this amendment because it is fatally flawed and would undermine the public safety impact of the bill. the amendment would add an exception to background check requirements for anyone who is a participant in the t.s.a. precheck program of the department of homeland security. by exempting those who have obtained a t.s.a. precheck from
the background check requirement, the amendment would allow many dangerous people, including people with disqualifying mental health conditions, and some criminal convictions, to obtain firearms without a background check. the current background system, the national instant crl criminal background check system, was designed specifically for background checks pursuant to the brady handgun violence prevention act. the system also -- often called the nics, contains information that no other federal database contains and the t.s.a. does not check nics when determining a person's eligibility for the t.s.a. precheck program. although participants in the precheck program have had their criminal backgrounds vetted, the standards for approval and participation in the precheck program are not the same and in many cases are more lenient than those which prohibit firearm possession and purchase. for example, the nics searches the records ofs of people prohibited for mental health reasons during a firearms background check. these mental health reasons, though, are not part of the
t.s.a. precheck search. as of january 31, there are more than 5.7 million of these mental health records in the nics index, making it the second most populous category prohibtific rorts for firearm -- proh.i.v.ity -- prohibitive records for firearm purchases. individuals who have been adjudicated to be disqualified to own firearms for reasons of mental condition or have been committed to any mental institution may be excepted under the t.s.a. precheck program, but are not legally able to possess a gun. under this amendment, they would be legally exempted from the background check requirement and would be able to get a gun despite being legally prohibited from doing so. the t.s.a. bars people convicted of certain criminal offenses such as rape or aggravated sexual abuse from participating in the precheck program only temporarily. it doesn't restrict people convicted of these serious crimes for more than seven
years, and it wouldn't bar people released from prison for these crimes within the last five years. under current law these felony convictions prevent purchase of a weapon, but under this amendment, people released from prison within the last five years for these crimes could get the weapons. the precheck program does not have a minimum age requirement. this amendment would allow people under the ages of 18 and 21 to purchase firearms illegally and without a nics background check. furthermore, the t.s.a. precheck program only rerequires a background check every five years. and the precheck system may not be advised, the firearms disqualifying offenses taking place after the initial precheck background check has occurred. in other words, you get the t.s.a. precheck, and if you're convicted afterwards, within five years, for a very serious crime, under this amendment, you could get the gun, although legally you shouldn't, without a
background check, and the t.s.a. precheck program would not have picked it up. these shortcomings in the t.s.a. precheck system make it an inadequate and dangerous substitute for a nics background check. to prevent potentially prohibited purchasers from obtaining firearms, licensed dealers should conduct background checks on participants in the precheck program as they would with any other member of the public. the blanket exception in this amendment for anyone who participates in a t.s.a. precheck program would undermine the bill's ability to enhance public safety, because it would enable people convicted of serious crimes, people adjudicated to have serious to purchase ses, guns without a background check, even though the t.s.a. system would not pick them up. the t.s.a. system is not a substitute for the background check system, it doesn't pick up many of the crimes, it doesn't carry forward, and it's not a substitute for this system. and to pass this amendment,
which would allow people who have qualified under the t.s.a. precheck program, not to have background checks would allow a lot of people who shouldn't have guns to have them. therefore i strongly oppose this amendment and i ask that my colleagues vote no on this amendment. . the chair: the gentlelady from arizona. mrs. lesko: thank you, mr. chairman. iffed' like to yield 30 seconds to my colleague, mr. collins, and then retain the rest of my time. the chair: the gentleman from georgia is recognized for 30 seconds. mr. collins: i appreciate that. i i just support the amendment and i think it is good and many of the flaws we have seen in this bill so far this is an amendment that works. i yield back. the chair: the gentlewoman from arizona. mrs. lesko: thapping you, mr. chair. mr. nadler in his statement said that my amendment would allow dangerous people to get guns. i have to say i disagree. i am the ranking member on the homeland security subcommittee that deals with t.s.a. and the
t.s.a. precheck system is more stringent than the background currently required to obtain a gun. when you purchase it. again, it requires a fingerprint background check and an individual interview. neither of those are required right now. we had offered a number of amendments to help this bill become less burdensome and law-abiding citizens. i'm happy that one was at least ruled in order this t.s.a. one and i would ask my colleagues to please vote yes on it. mr. chairman, i urge adoption of this commonsense amendment and i yield back the balance of my ime. the chair: the gentlewoman yields back. the question is on the amendment offered by the gentlewoman from arizona.
so many as are in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, the noes have it. mrs. lesko: mr. chairman, i request the yeas and nays. the chair: does the gentlewoman request a recorded vote? mrs. lesko: yes, i do. the chair: pursuant to clause 6 of rule 18, further proceedings on the amendment offered by the gentlewoman from arizona will be postponed. now in or order to consider amendment number 2 printsed in part a of house report 116-14. for what purpose does the gentlewoman from pennsylvania seek recognition? >> mr. speaker, i have an amendment at the desk. the chair: the clerk will designate the amendment. the clerk: amendment number 2 printed in part a of house report number 116-14, offered by ms. dean of pennsylvania. the chair: pursuant to house resolution 145, the gentlewoman from pennsylvania, ms. dean, and a member opposed, will each control five minutes. the chair recognizes the
gentlewoman from pennsylvania. ms. dean: thank you, mr. speaker. thank you, mr. chair. i will claim as much time as i may consume. i rise to offer an amendment to h.r. 8, the bipartisan background checks act. my amendment clarifies that those of risk of committing suicide would be exempt from the background check requirement in instances of imminent threats of death or great bodily harm. specifically, this legislation amends the bill to insert the line quote, including harm to self, family, household members, or others, end quote. to the list of instances when a person is exempt from the background check requirement and may temporarily transfer away a firearm for safe keeping. the spirit of this long overdue legislation is to save lives. and i urge my colleagues to support my amendment which will further achieve this goal by addressing the leading instance of gun death in this country, suicide.
last year nearly 40,000 people were killed by gun violence. another 80,000 larlely caught in the crossfire. of those killed, over half, more than 20,000 people tragically died by gun suicide. and the problem has grown. nationally over the past years -- past decade the rate of suicide by gun death has increased 19%. this is a problem that grips our entire nation in my home state of pennsylvania there has been a 24% increase in gun suicide over the past 10 years. claiming the lives of over 14,000 people. these are our friends, our loved one, young and old, people for whom our hearts ache, people we wish we could hold for one more time. i offer up a picture of a dear friend of my family, ron. unfortunately, very few of us are left unkansas citied by this problem. while there are many factors that contribute to self-harm, the press ns of a firearm in the
home increases the risk of suicide and not, surprisingly, using a gun is the method that most often ends in death. guns are dangerously effective at what they are designed to do. that is why this amendment is so important. it ensures that those in crisis can temporarily transfer a firearm safely until the crisis has passed. it clearly defines a person can can temporarily hand over firearms to someone they trust while they work through this difficult time. this clarity is needed because in times of crisis moments matter. it may literal be the difference between life and death -- literally be the difference between life and death. we're here today in this historic moment to take action against the violence that plagues this country. our community, and our loved ones, the bipartisan background checks act with this amendment will keep guns out of the hands who legally should not have them. and also gives those who need a safe way to separate themselves from their guns a way to do so. if we have the courage to pass
this legislation, the courage here in the house, and in the senate, and in the white house, it will do just that. it will save lives. i reserve the balance of my time. the chair: the gentlewoman reserves her time. who claims time in opposition? mr. collins: mr. speaker, i claim time in opposition. the chair: the gentleman is recognized for five minutes. mr. collins: mr. speaker, i appreciate the willingness of the amendment. i rise again, this is something discussed committee was an attempt to basically --failed attempt to fix one of the shortcomings of this legislation. i understand why they would bring it. i understand why they would want to fix it because the existence vindicates what we have been saying about the flaws in bill, which we discussed at committee. like other four amendments that will be offered, this is nothing more than trying to basically change the appearance of what is a flawed perception. and the problem here is it address the -- addresses the undefined term of imminent
tuesday used in the bill. i am still currently serving as a united states air force chaplain. i have pastored for many years and i have been on the other end of phone calls from those who are struggling and thinking of taking their life. suicide is not something that we can define very easily. it's not something that we can simply limit to yes, guns are effective. but any method that someone uses to choose to end their life is sad and a struggle for those who have dealt with this. the term imminent here is problematic for those of us who have dealt with those who are struggling with suicide. because imminent to them and imminent to a judge and to someone who wants to take his life indicates something that will happen in a very short amount of time. a very imminent act. something that is going to happen even before, mr. speaker, you and i finish this -- i finish my speech.
it does not extend to 12 hours hours or or even -- 24 even 46 hours. i am not willing to let a prosecutor or judge who may not like guns who would actually say that was an imminent threat and by transferring it for the more than a short amount of time you have then fallen under and fallen this. i would hope that would never happen, mr. speaker. but we have got to be serious about this issue of imminent. for those of us who dealt with this, there may be, i have had times when people come to me and thinking about harming themselves but the imence in factor was not there. they were trying to see if they could clear their head and it may be a week that would pass and they came back and say it was fine. but in this issue i understand the intent and the heart here. but it is a very weak attempt to fix problems that we had already pointed out in this bill. and it will still not fix the problem. because the problem is the imminent standard. that's the part that we're struggling with. we can disagree with this and i
respect the gentlelady if she disagrees and would expect her to. let's remember, this is carried out if, for say, which i would hope would not happen, this bill actually becomes law. it then will present a problem for those who have to enforce it and those judges who have to interpret it. we have to remember that our actions here that we vote on words on paper not aspirational ideas. those are happy thoughts not words on paper. and the only thing that the courts can do is vote on words on paper. i appreciate the gentlelady bringing this. i support the intent especially with dealing with suicide which many of us have worked for and the tragedy it leaves in the wake of so many. but please understand my opposition to this is, it is still a flawed product because we have not dealt with the very issue of imminent in this legislation. this amendment, mr. chairman, with that i yield back the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time.
the gentlewoman from pennsylvania. ms. dean: i yield one minute to the gentleman from new york, the distinguished chairman nadler. the chair: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. nadler: i thank the gentlelady for yielding. i support the amendment which clarifies the bill's exemption from the background check requirement in instances of imminent threats of great or bodily harm would apply to someone at risk of committing suicide. the limited number of exemptions to the background check requirement includes circumstances in which someone feels that they are a danger to themselves and may temporarily transfer a firearm until the danger has passed. this is a limited and reasonable exemption that only applies to those who fear they harm 24e78selves so they may temporarily surrender their weapon. i listened to the gentleman from georgia and aappreciate he doesn't think the amendment goes far enough or solves the underlying problems of the bill as he sees it. even from his point of view it should go in the right direction. so i urge everyone to support this amendment. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentlewoman from pennsylvania. ms. dean: i yield myself such time as i may consume. the chair: the gentlewoman is
recognized. ms. dean: i thank you. mr. speaker, i thank the chair. i thank the author of this bill, representative thompson, and i thank all of the tireless advocates who have worked to bring us to this day. i think the gentleman from georgia for his comments. clearly he understands the gravity and grave nature of gun death by suicide in this country. as you can see that number has been he can can lating over the past 10 years -- escalating over the past 10 years that includes more than 20,000 people in a single year. gun violence by suicide is quite deadly. we know it. so i thank the -- my colleague from the other side of the aisle for at least supporting the spirit of what we're trying to do here. for the greater safety of our citizens, our neighbors, our friends, and our family members i urge my colleagues to support this amendment and please support this bill, h.r. 8. i yield back the balance of my time. the chair: the time of the gentlewoman has expired. the question is on the amendment offered by the gentlewoman from pennsylvania.
so many as are in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. he amendment is agreed to. it's now in order to consider amendment number 3 printed in part a of house report 116-14. for what purpose does the the gentlewoman from oklahoma seek recognition? ms. horn: i have an amendment at the desk. the chair: the clerk will designate the amendment. the clerk: amendment number 3, printed in part a of house report number 116-14, offered by miss kendra s. horn of oklahoma. the chair: pursuant to house resolution 14 a 5, the gentlewoman from oklahoma, miss torn, and a member opposed each will control five minutes. the chair recognizes the gentlewoman from oklahoma. ms. horn: thank you, mr. chairman. i yield myself such time as i may consume.
h.r. 8 is a critical piece of legislation that i am proud to support. congress needs to act to cut down on our nation's widespread gun violence. we must close loopholes to give buyers and sellers a way around background checks. there is no reason vendors at gun shows or online should be exempt from the safety measures other merchants must obey. we should also vet sales between two people. but that is not to say there should be no exceptions. my amendment carves out protection force people who face risk of domestic violence, dating partner violence, sexual assault, stalking, and domestic abuse. the underlying bill, h.r. 8, already creates an exception to the background check requirement when there is a temporary weapon transfer if the transferee is at imminent risk of death or great bodily harm. but our amendment is meant to make it crystal clear and explicit that this exception applies when the transferees are protecting themselves from an abuser. it does not expand the
underlying exception. it offers one critical example of where it might apply. when i talked to oklahomans across my districts last year, they confided in me their concerns about gun violence. i promised to work towards policy that is would protect them. we need to protect our second amendment right but there is no credible reason why we as a state and nation can acknowledge there are steps we can take to save lives and find a path forward to do so. h.r. 8 does just that. it increases safety without limiting our second amendment rights by implementing commonsense policy. but when we take these commonsense steps, we need to acknowledge our power to create unintended consequences and prevent them. that is why i'm offering this amendment in addition to my commitment to gun safety. i talked about my devotion to helping protect women and families. etween 1998 and 2017, oklahoma domestic violence fatality review board found nearly 1,700 people were killed in our state
because of domestic violence. in 2017 alone, 91 oklahomans were murdered. the national intimate partner and sexual violence survey found that nearly two in five oklahoma women will face some form of domestic abuse or sexual violence during their lifetimes. oklahoma is consistently ranked in the top five states for women killed by men in one-on-one homicides. oklahoma domestic violence programs serve an average of 18,000 people annually according to the -- ywca. for us that means many things -- oklahoma is not an exception. these problems persist. one in four women and one in nine men experience intimate partner or physical violence. these people deserve to be protected. for us that means things including strengthening and re-authorizing the violence against women act and investing in support services and family justice centers, but it also means we need to empower people to protect themselves. that is why congress should pass laws to strengthen background
checks and create exceptions for those who truly need them. . i reserve. the chair: the gentlelady reserves. who claims time in opposition? mr. collins: mr. chairman, i do. the chair: the gentleman from georgia is recognized for five minutes. mr. collins: mr. chairman, i -- i understand the need or want to do this is to make many things that actually came in discussions are our -- in our committee about some of the problems we found here, and this is a mere submission, another tactic submission that the democrats understand the flaws in this bill. it also goes back, mr. chairman, not something i'm going to relitigate here. cut short, 's cut this is what you get. they realize good thoughts were brought up but they refused to push through a bill because they have a timeline. we went through this in the rules committee.
i get it. this is what's coming up. ut, again, to put this in -- and constitute bodily harm, it goes with the problem of imminent in the last one. these are things that, frankly, could have -- even in a bill i disagree with, this is not something that's going to fix. a victim of domestic abuse can live in constant abuse fear of her abuser and feel threatened all time. again, mr. chairman, i understand at least the attempt to fix something because they understand that there was problems. and they don't want to make it worse. but i have abdicated all along, what this does help, it also hurts and this, again, just another attempt to do that. i appreciate they're figuring out the problems now. i just would oppose this amendment because, again, it does not completely fix the problems that is seen and would not in the bigger picture. with that, mr. chairman, i yield back the balance of my
time. the chair: the gentleman yields back his time. the gentlewoman from oklahoma. ms. horn: thank you, mr. chairman. i'd like to yield such time as she may consume to the gentlewoman from kansas, representative davids. the chair: the gentlewoman is recognized. ms. davids: thank you, mr. chairman. i rise today to voice my support to this amendment to h.r. 8, introduced by representatives horn and murphy. this amendment protects people facing the threat of domestic violence, dating partner violence, sexual assault, stalking, and domestic abuse. i'm the daughter of a military veteran, and like most kansans, i respect the second amendment rights of law abiding citizens but also like most kansans, i'm tired of politicians doing nothing to stop senseless killings. that's why i support commonsense solutions to keep our communities safe like expanding background checks and closing dangerous loopholes in our laws. in our effort to ensure the safety of our communities, however, we can't forget the needs of those at risk of
domestic violence, to protect themselves from abuse. according to the kansas bureau of investigation, in 2017, a domestic violence incident was reported every 23 minutes. a domestic violence occurred every nine days in the state of kansas. in the united states, more than 12 million people experience some form of domestic violence by a current or former domestic partner every year. these women and men deserve our support which means we also need to re-authorize and strengthen the violence against women act. these men and women deserve to be protected. i cannot emphasize that enough. i'm proud to support h.r. 8. it's a critical piece of legislation that will save lives. and i urge my fellow colleagues to stand up for survivors and those at risk and support this amendment. thank you. i yield the remainder of my time. the chair: the gentlewoman yields back her time. the gentlewoman from oklahoma. ms. horn: thank you, mr. chairman. i'd like to yield 15 seconds to chairman nadler.
the chair: the gentleman is recognized for 15 seconds. mr. nadler: i thank the gentlelady for yielding. i simply want to say i support this amendment, which clarifies that great bodily harm is included in exception to the bill's background check requirement, includes domestic violence, sexual assaults, stalking, etc. it's a good amendment. i urge people to support it. the chair: the gentleman yields back. the gentlewoman from oklahoma. ms. horn: thank you, mr. chairman. i'd like to simply close by reiterating the importance of h.r. 8 and my support for it in this amendment in clarifying and protecting individuals who are at risk for domestic violence, stalking, and sexual assault. and i'd like to thank congresswoman stephanie murphy, who co-sponsored this amendment, as well as congresswoman davids and congressman nadler for their remarks, and i yield back the balance of my time. the chair: the gentlewoman's time has expired. the question is on the amendment offered by the gentlewoman from oklahoma. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no.
in the opinion of the chair. the ayes have it. the amendment is agreed to. mr. nadler: mr. chairman, we ask for a roll call vote on this. the chair: pursuant to clause 6 of rule 18, further proceedings on the amendment offered by the gentlewoman from oklahoma will e postponed. it's now in order to consider amendment number 4 printed in part a of house report 116-14. for what purpose does the gentleman from new jersey seek recognition? mr. van drew: mr. chairman, i have an amendment at the desk. the chair: the clerk will designate the amendment. the clerk: amendment number 4 printed in part a of house report 116-14 offered by mr. van drew of new jersey. the chair: pursuant to house resolution 145, the gentleman from new jersey, mr. van drew, and a member opposed, each will control five minutes. the chair recognizes the gentleman from new jersey. mr. van drew: i yield myself such time as i may consume. the chair: the gentleman is recognized. mr. van drew: my amendment
clarifies that exceptions for gifts and loans of firearms between parents and their children applies to step-parents and step-children. the reason i offered this amendment is to recognize that the relationship between step-parents and step-children is sometimes stronger or as strong than that of the biological parent and child relationship. the parents of one of my closest friends are technically step-parents but you would never know it because they are all so close and love each other so much. the amendment also clarifies that gifts and loans of firearms among family members are still subject to the existing legal standard for all transfers. existing law states that no person may deliver a firearm to someone if he or she has a reason to believe that the person is prohibited from possessing a firearm.
consequently, even gifts and loans among family members are not permissible if the transferer thinks they may use the firearm in a crime or are prohibited from possessing firearms. again, the amendment clarifies that while a background check is not required for these transfers, the existing legal standard continues to apply. i urge a yes vote on this amendment, and i reserve the remainder of my time. the chair: the gentleman reserves the remainder of his time. who claims time in opposition? mr. collins: mr. chairman, i claim time in opposition. as opposed to the amendment, i am not opposed. he chair: without objection, the gentleman is allowed the five minutes. mr. collins: this is proof this bill was not ready for primetime and should have spent more time instead of moving a
very ill-time previous question because of a timing deadline they had to get to the floor. it fixes one of the many flaws in the bill. i do have to ask the question, again, republicans had solutions on these loose ends all over the bill but our debate time was stopped. i just have a question here, although i am not opposing this amendment, it merely adds the exchange between step-parents and their step-children. what about step-siblings who also love each other dearly? but this does not include this. step-grandchildren? what about foster families or adoptive families? again it's a simple fix that goes forward and, again, struggles. i do want to go back and address something that came up earlier and seemed to get an interesting response from friends across the aisle. my colleagues stated that the appropriate fine is $1,000, not $100,000. they cite the u.s. sentencing guidelines for this number but i do have to remind the chairman that since the booker decision, of course, the guidelines are only advisory.
we need not look to the advisory guidelines but look the statute the bill amends. remember, we do not vote on aspirations in this chamber. we vote on words on paper. 18 u.s.c. 1924-a-5 contains the enalty violates part s or f of 922 find under this title, imprisoned not more than one year or both, 18-357 for a class a misdemeanor, which that is, that does not result in death, not more than $100,000. it could be $1 thuned or up to $100,000. i appreciate our confusion over this issue. unfortunately, as i stated before, this is what happens when a bill is rushed to the floor. and, you know, this is why we oppose this legislation. and when we understand this, mr. chairman, again, you can offer amendments that make numbers feel good, but feeling good doesn't heal you. and feeling good will not make
this better. i will not oppose this amendment, but, again, i think in just the moments i had here, i raised enough questions about this amendment to take those very ear use about the love between step-children, between step-parents and children, what about the step-siblings, what about the grandparents? that's not addressed in this. again, going back to the issue of the fine, again, the statute and the bill itself is pretty clear. it's fined under this process and not the guidelines that are sentencing. with that i reserve. the chair: the gentleman reserves his time. the gentleman from new jersey. mr. van drew: i yield myself such time as i may consume. mr. chair, i want to thank the body for its support of my amendment and i urge a yes vote on the van drew amendment and this is a good amendment and i believe it will be positive, it will be helpful and i believe it creates an atmosphere which is a fair atmosphere for
everyone to increase safety and yet at the same time to understand the relationships that do exist in step-families. i yield back the balance of my time. thank you, mr. chairman. the chair: the gentleman yields back his time. the gentleman from georgia. mr. collins: thank you, mr. speaker. again, i appreciate the gentleman bringing it. as was said, there is -- this is an attempt to make a bill that should have been vetted more in committee not be vetted more. and i appreciate -- i'm not going to oppose your amendment. when i take it a step further, what about the step-parents and the step-siblings between each other and the children of step-grandparents and children? i had the look of those families. those are precious families. why are we stopping at one? again, it goes back to the heart -- and i understand the rush to get here. again, what makes you feel better and what makes you feel good does not always heal you. and this is something that needs to be addressed. with this i am not going to oppose this amendment?
it is unfortunately very lacking in a bill that is lacking on many points on that, but with that i'll yield back the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman yields back. the question is on the amendment offered by the gentleman from new jersey. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. he amendment is agreed to. pursuant to clause 6 of rule 18, proceedings will now resume on those amendments printed in part a of house report 116-14 on which further proceedings were postponed in the following order. amendment number 1 by mrs. lesko of arizona, amendment number 3 by ms. kendra horn of oklahoma. the chair will reduce to two minutes the minimum time for any electronic vote after the first vote in this series.
the unfinished business is the request for a recorded vote on amendment number 1 printed in part a of house report 116-14 by the gentlewoman from arizona, mrs. lesko, on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the noes prevailed by voice vote. the clerk will redesignate the amendment. the clerk: amendment number 1 printed in part a of house report 116-14 offered by mrs. lesko of arizona. the chair: a recorded vote has been requested. those in support of the request for a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having arisen, a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. this will be a 15-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]
the unfinished business is the request for recorded vote on amendment number 3 printed in part a of house report 116-14 by the gentlewoman from oklahoma. ms. horn, on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the ayes prevailed by voice vote. the clerk will redesignate the amendment. the clerk: amendment -- amendment number 3 printed in part a of house report 116-14 offered by ms. kendra s. horn of oklahoma. the speaker pro tempore: a recorded vote has been requested. those in support of the request for a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having risen, a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. this will be a two-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]
there being no further amendment, ecommittee rises. -- the committee rises. the speaker pro tempore: mr. chairman. the chair: madam speaker. the committee of the whole house on the state of the union has had under consideration h.r. 8 and pursuant to house resolution 145 report the bill back to the house with an amendment adopted in the committee of the whole. the speaker pro tempore: the
chair of the committee of the whole house on the state of the union reports that the committee has had under consideration the bill h.r. 8 and pursuant to house resolution 145, reports the bill back to the house with an amendment adopted in the committee of the whole. under the rule, the previous question is ordered. is a separate vote demanded on any amendment to the amendment reported from the committee of the whole? if not, the question is on dppings of the amendment in the nature of a substitute as amended. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. the ayes have it. the amendment is agreed to. the question is on engrossment and third reading of the bill. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. the ayes have it. third reading. the clerk: a bill to require a background check for every irearm sale.
mr. collins: i am. the speaker pro tempore: the clerk will report the motion. >> madam speaker. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york. mr. engel: i reserve a point of order. the speaker pro tempore: point of order is reserved. the clerk will report the motion. the clerk: mr. collins of georgia moves to recommit the bill h.r. 8 to the committee on the judiciary with instructions to report the same to the house forthwith with the following amendment. page 5, after line 4, insert the following. e, regulations promulgated under this paragraph shall include in the case of a background check conducted by the national instant criminal background check system in response to a contact from a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer, which background check indicates that the receipt of a firearm by a person would violate subsection g-5 a requirement that the system notify u.s. immigration and customs enforcement. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for five minutes.
mr. collins: thank you madam speaker. this motion to recommit will not kill the bill or send it become to committee. if adopted the bill will proceed to final passage as amended. the motion to recommit will notify u.s. immigration and custom enforcement, commonly known as i.c.e., when an illegal alien who is not aloud to purchase a firearm attempts to purchase a firearm. madam speaker i have been here all afternoon. and we have heard time and time again how we have had the problem of mass violence, we've we talk about how to solve it, unfortunately this underlying bill as i have brought up many times already will not do this we have heard that we have to do something. basically even if it won't work. madam speaker, i will remind this house one more time that what makes you feel good does not always heal you. when we understand that, then we can begin to move forward.
what we have found this day is this bill has many problems because we chose to rush it to the floor because we had a deadline and we cut off debate in committee. we found amendments offered to fix parts of this bill that do not fix them but actually make them worse. we have found out that the authors of the bill did not even know how much was going to be fined in the bill until we actually pointed it out. and now we come to the biggest part. i have been here all day listening to, we have to keep criminals from having firearms. we have to keep criminals from having firearms. and i'll say it once more, madam speaker. we must keep criminals from having firearms. well, i'm glad to let you know, madam speaker, we are now giving everyone in this body a hance to do just that. a similar measure was provided.
what we're saying is if you have someone who is a criminal who has came into our country illegal, criminal number one, if they then try to buy a firearm which they are unable to do, that's a second strike as a criminal. if they do that they will be reported to i.c.e. now, which members in this body are opposed to notifying law enforcement when a person prohibited from purchasing a firearm attempts to do so? are we against that? no. i believe our friends across the aisle are not because i heard it all day. we don't want criminals to have firearms. but my question for you now is, be very careful. if you vote no on this motion to recommit, you cannot go back to your constituency, no matter what is said, i voted to keep illegal aliens, those who should not have a firearm from having a firearm. we heard it all day. and you can moan, you can talk, you can think about it but, again, what -- the speaker pro tempore: the
house is not in order. mr. collins: again, madam speaker, i understand the sympathy and the concern and the pain upon this bill. but let's not kid ourselves. the bill itself guts itself when it will not even allow region sfree which the obama administration said -- registry which the balm said it had. give everybody an opportunity to actually keep a gun out of a criminal's hand and have that criminal punished for that by turning them in. but, ladies and gentlemen, my colleagues, please listen to me right now. hear me clearly. hear me clearly. no matter what will be said in just a moment, no matter what the chairman or anyone else would say about this bill, if you vote no, you are voting to allow someone who should not have a firearm to get away with
it and not be prosecuted for it. be very clear. you can try and make it look better, you can try and say it was not part of the bill. i got to have the bill. but never get away from the fact, madam speaker, if you vote no on this motion to recommit, you are making a choice to say, i guess some criminals can get away with trying to get a firearm. that is why this motion to recommit needs a yes vote. this is why we on this side stand for making sure that proper firearm safety is upheld, why our rights are being upheld, and at the same time looking to find real solutions, not perpetrating a fraud on those who are scared simply to pass a piece of legislation. vote yes on the motion to recommit and actually keep guns out of criminals' hands. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. for what purpose does the gentleman from new york seek recognition? mr. nadler: i rise in opposition to the motion to recommit.
the speaker pro tempore: does the -- does the gentleman withdraw his reservation? mr. nadler: he why, i -- yes, i withdraw my reservation. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for five minutes. mr. nadler: thank you. madam speaker, let's remember what we're dealing with. we're dealing with the fact that the current federal law, with respect to firearms background checks, is dangerously limited and flawed because background checks are only required for sales by licensed gun dealers. and the many, many people get a gun at a gun show or from someone else, something like 20%, i think the figure is, 25% of gun sales escape background checks. so all kinds of people who may be criminals, who may be mentally ill, may be domestic abusers, who shouldn't have guns get guns and that results in lives forfeited. it results in people killed.
this bill goes a long way towards solving that by saying we're going to require background checks of everyone who gets a gun with some exceptions. th some reasonable exceptions, which are in the bill. now, along comes this motion to recommit which is a total red herring, having no purpose to do with the bill, and says someone that fails a background check because he's illegally in this country, you should report that to i.c.e. well, first of all, if he fails a background check because he's illegally in the country, that means the system knows he's illegally in the country. it means they already know that. so what's the point of reporting him? he has to be in the system as illegally in the country in order to fail the background check because of the section. so we already know that. this is totally circular,
number one. number two, this is just a red herring to try to mix up the immigration issue with a gun violence issue and they really have nothing to do with each other. number three, for eight years we couldn't get a hearing. not a hearing in the committee on this bill or on any real bill to stop the plague of domestic -- the plague of handgun violence in this country. 150 people killed in great britain, 95 in austria, wherever, 39,000 in the united states. no one will tell me that americans are 10,000 times as mentally ill as europeans or japanese. the problem is we don't have adequate protections on guns. this bill goes in the direction of doing it, and you want to sabotage the bill with a phony issue. f -- raised by this m.t.r. now, there is an issue.
if people fail the background check by various reasons, it should be reported to local -- you can make a case it should be reported to local law enforcement agencies. mr. cicilline has a bill to do just that. i'll yield to him in just a second. but the fact is it has nothing to do with this bill. it's an attempt to sabotage this bill. if you believe we ought to cut down on the plague of hand -- gun violence in this country, we ought to save lives, we ought to get rid of all these people who shouldn't have guns having guns, we should have background checks in sensible situations. vote against the motion to recommit, for the bill, i yield to mr. cicilline. mr. cicilline: i thank the gentleman for yielding. we're on the precipice of voting for the first gun safety bill in this congress for eight years -- 25 years. i've been here for eight years. we begged and pleaded and had a
sit-in to force republicans to take up some measure to reduce gun violence in this country. there are women and men and families across america that are demanding congress to do just something. you raise a motion to recommit -- and you raise a motion to to mit on a phony issue try to muck this up with this gimmick. if you are concerned about reducing gun violence in this country, if passing commonsense gun legislation, you had eight years to bring a bill to the floor. but if you're really concerned about this, i have good news for you. i have good news for you. i have legislation -- because in fact, if someone buys a gun who is a prohibited purchaser, whatever their immigration status is, they committed a crime, they should be arrested and prosecuted. every single democrat believes that. so i have a piece of legislation that says, if that happens, notify the field office of the federal bureau of
investigation, the local law enforcement agency, and the state law enforcement agency. the agencies responsible for enforcing the criminal law. so they can arrest and prosecute that person. i'm looking for a republican co-lead. look forward to hearing from you. defeat this phony amendment. pass universal background checks. i yield back to the chairman. the speaker pro tempore: -- ut objection mr. nadler: let us not accept this -- the speaker pro tempore: time has expired. mr. nadler: let us not divert our attention. no on the motion to recommit. yes on the bill. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the previous question is ordered. the question is on the motion to recommit. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. the noes have it. the motion is not adopted. mr. collins: i ask for the yeas and nays. the speaker pro tempore: the yeas and nays are requested. those favoring a vote by the
yeas and nays will rise. a sufficient number having arisen, the yeas and nays are ordered. pursuant to clause -- pursuant to clause 9 of rule 20, the chair will reduce to five minutes the minimum time for any electronic vote on the question of passage of the bill. this is a five-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]
take your conversations off the floor. >> madam speaker, pursuant to the instructions of the house in the motion to recommit i report h.r. 8 back to the house with an amendment. the speaker pro tempore: the clerk will report the amendment. the clerk: h.ful 5 -- page 5, after line fouring insert the following, promulgations under this paragraph shall include in the case of a background check conducted by the national instant criminal background check system from a lined importer, licensed dealer, that the receipt of a firearm by a person would violate g-5 would require that the system notify u.s. customs and immigration enforce. . the speaker pro tempore: the house is not in order. please take your conversations off the floor. the question is on adoption of the amendment. those in favor say aye.
>> parliamentary inquirly. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. hoyer: madam speaker, in order for the amendment that was just passed to be passed am i correct that you'd have to vote for this bill with that amendment now? the speaker pro tempore: the chair will put the question on the amendment and then the amendment on passage. mr. hoyer: the vote now is to pass the bill as amended, am i correct? my parliamentary inquirly ry is, if that does not pass, am i correct that the amendment that was just voted for by so many in this house, it would be defeated if the bill is defeated. the speaker pro tempore: the chair will put the quone the passage of the bill. mr. hoyer: thank you madam
speaker. the speaker pro tempore: the question is on adoption of the amendment. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. the ayes have it. the amendment is agreed to. -- the tion is on question is on engrossment and third reading. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. the ayes have it. third reading. the clerk: a bill to require a background check for every firearm sale. the speaker pro tempore: the question is on passage of the bill. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair the ayes have it. >> madam speaker. request the yeas and nays. the speaker pro tempore: the yeas and nays are requested. those favoring a vote by the yeas and nays will rise. a sufficient number having risen, the yeas and nays are ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. this is a five-minute vote.
the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentlewoman from florida rise? ms. wilson: madam speaker, i ask my name be removed as o-sponsor of h.r. 787. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. for what purpose does the gentleman from missouri seek recognition? >> madam speaker, i ask unanimous consent that the committee on judiciary be discharged from further consideration of the bill i sponsored h.r. 962, the born alive abortion survivors protection act, to make sure the most vulnerable children in the united states have access to life-saving medical care and
ask for the immediate consideration in the house. the speaker pro tempore: under guidelines consistently issued by successive speakers as reported in section 956 of the house rules manual, the chair is constrained not to entertain the request unless it has been cleared by the bipartisan floor and committee leadership. mr. smith: madam speaker, this unanimous consent request cannot be entertained, i urge the speaker and majority leader to immediately schedule a vote on the born alive abortion survivors protection act so we can protect the sanctity of human life. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is not recognized for debate. for what purpose does the gentleman from new jersey seek recognition? >> madam speaker, i ask unanimous consent when the house adjourns today it adjourn until 9:00 a.m. tomorrow. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. for what purpose does the gentleman from new jersey seek recognition? >> i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend
my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. payne: madam speaker, i rise today to recognize america's health and wellness coaches. approximately 7% of health care dollars in the united states is spent on lifestyle-related diseases, but the health and wellness coaches can decrease those costs by helping people achieve their personal health and wellness goals. far too many people suffer and struggle with poor health because they don't have the motivation and resources or sustained support needed in order to transform their habits. healthy habits are not always easily achievable when a patient is working alone, but health coaches are there to ensure people succeed in taking control of their health issues. that's why earlier in february,
congressman miller and i introduced a bipartisan resolution to express our support for health and wellness coaches. i'm proud of our work together as co-chair of the congressional men's health caucus and i encourage my colleagues to join us in recognizing america's health and wellness coaches and with that i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from pennsylvania seek recognition? mr. thompson: madam speaker, request unanimous consent to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. thompson: madam speaker, the house is not in order. the speaker pro tempore: members and staff, please take your conversations off the floor. the gentleman is recognized. mr. thompson: thank you, madam speaker. madam speaker, in 2016, the environmental protection agency
announced the new source performance standards for the oil and natural gas industry to further regulate methane emissions. thankfully, the e.p.a.'s revisiting this regulation in an effort to provide flexibility and relief moving forward. for many small oil and gas producers, this requirement contained in the original regulation were simply unworkable and overly burdensome. for example, the regulation would apply to wells that produce less than 15 barrels of oil and less than 30,000 cubic feet of natural gas a day. because these wells produce at low volumes, the profit margin remains tight for the operators. however, under the original rule, these low-volume producers will be subject to expensive upgrades, additional reporting requirements, administrative costs in order to comply with the regulation. madam speaker, today i introduced h.r. 1391, the methane relief act of 2019, which would exempt these low-volume wells from the rule's requirements. doing so will allow for commonsense regulatory relief
and certainty for the small operators which account for an important part of our domestic energy industry. thank you, madam speaker, i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentlewoman from florida seek recognition? without objection, the gentlewoman is recognized for one minute. ms. wilson: madam speaker, i rise today to address an actual national emergency. there are too many damn guns in america and far too many lives have been lost. last year alone, 40,000 americans were fatally shot, the most in 50 years. my county suffers from gun violence on a near daily basis, and the last five years, we have lost 370 people to gun violence. 127 of these victims were children. recently, a pregnant mother was killed and her teenage daughter injured in a senseless
shooting. the family had already lost a relative to gun violence. almost as shocking as these statistics, for 25 years, congress failed to pass significant gun control legislation until today. i'm comforted by how swiftly house democrats began tackling this crisis and pray that the -- e finds the colonel to courage to follow our lead. thoughts and prayers and moments of silence are not enough. let us reassure them passing the background check act of 2019 is just the first step of many more to come, and we won't is over.l this i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from texas seek recognition? mr. olson: madam speaker, i ask unanimous consent to address
the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman is recognized for one inute. mr. olson: madam speaker, we l know an iconic texas song, the stars at night are big and bright, deep in the heart of texas. the sky in texas has a new star. the brightest star ever. hope pack. marlee she's right beside me. after a courageous fight with childhood cancer, god called marlee home on february 23. marlee's cancer would not be stopped. her dad, bill, kept asking marlee, what is your wish with make a wish, your wish with make a wish? after a few weeks, sweet marlee
answered, dad, if i have to think about this hard, i don't eed a wish, end quote. marlee turned make a wish into make a gift. bear work marlee's shapovalov and partnered with build a bear to give kids with cancers teddy bears for hope. thank you, bill and shelly, and all who loved marlee, for giving us a special person. she made our world better. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from new york seek recognition? >> i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman is recognized for one minute. >> madam speaker, i rise today to honor the 175th anniversary dominican independence and the birth of the first country i call home. mr. espaillat: in 1844, the
founding fathers of the dominican republic raised a flag of a new republic in santo domingo and proclaimed their independence from haiti, bringing another democratic republic into the family -- families of nations. the words of independence leader, let us make sacred commitments to the next generation and the commitment that he and his fellow patriots made 175 years ago live on, whether they are still on the island of their birth or whether they have made a new home abroad. today is the day for all of us to celebrate the contributions of the dominican people just as many celebrate the independence throughout the country. i yield back. . the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from georgia seek recognition?