tv Conservative Political Action Conference - Sen. Josh Hawley CSPAN March 2, 2019 4:38am-4:52am EST
things. we will see europe, we will see russia i think continue to be on their heels. but we have to support our president, and the fact of the matter is a lot of people are not. but a lot of people believe in him, believe in conservative values, believe that america is the greatest country in the world. we have to stand with him, speak with him, walk with him to make things happen. i look forward to the next 12 months. katie: thank you very much. we appreciate it. enjoy the rest of your weekend. rep. williams: thank you. sen. ernst: thank you very [applause] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2019] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] hello, cpac. ok, we do not have a kind of time up here, so this is what i want to do. i want to frame this by keeping on this focus. there is all this big tech out there, social media clearly posing a lot of big problems and
challenges. how do we as conservatives go about fixing it? a lot of time as your time in attorney general, and now you are here in d.c. in your time with twitter, google, all of that interaction, what are the two or three biggest problems? sen. hawley: first of all, thank you, ken, thank you for having me, and thank you for being here. these, facebook, twitter, google, are touting a whileing agenda flexing their power to shut conservatives out of the marketplace, and also taking from us our private, personal,
confidential information, they are not telling us or asking us, they are turning around to make money off of us. kimberly: censorship and price. sen. hawley: absolutely. kimberly: in washington, as the legislature, what do we do about that? as conservatives, we do not necessarily want lots of laws. we do not want alphabet soup agencies. how do you balance that? what do you go about doing? sen. hawley: it is a sweetheart deal that big tech has gotten from government. not gotten so big and powerful on its own cure it has gotten a whole lot of sweetheart deals from the government, no more so that section 230 of the communications decency act, which says big tech is not subject to the same rules as other media companies, including the platform you work for, kim, publishers. differentbject to a set of rules than the attack is, and big tech has used that in
order to, in many instances, discriminate against conservatives and libertarians and yet avoid the consequences of its right when you look at this cozy relationship between big tech and big government, because it has gotten this far along the way of where we are now. just to push back on that a little bit, i think that is a very legitimate question, but then there are libertarians, some conservatives out there who say in fact if you go in and you , that whatnd change you are in fact doing is you're going to give those people, if you impose liability on them for anything that anybody says, and now they are liable for that, it will just talked to the crackdown even more, that they will go after even more theyrvative voices, and will say we are under law, now liable, for anything on our website. we are just following the law, protecting ourselves. thing,wley: here is the if you are going to get these kind of deals, you cannot
engaged with what we in the law my background is constitutional law. we ought to tell him you cannot engage in viewpoint discrimination, you cannot discriminate against conservatives because they are conservatives. you cannot discriminate against libertarians because they are libertarians. you want to advocate people and stop them from advocating violence on your platform, that is great, that is not constitutionally protected speech anyway, but if you want to edit, target conservative, libertarianism, you will be on the hook for that. kimberly: so what do you do? do you get rid of studio to 30? do you change it? sen. hawley: i think we should prohibitedon 230 two kind of viewpoint discrimination. the goal is not to get less speech, the goal is to get more speech. the goal is to end a sweetheart relationship between government and tech, not to get government
more involved. because government has given the special status, that is why we are where we are. kimberly: we're going to go on privacy. one last question on this. for those who say look, it is a private company. go back to the early broadcast days. we had three broadcast stations, right? people complain even then come all of the voices on a liberal, liberal, liberal, until one guy came along at realized half the marketplace was not being addressed, and you got fox news, which is a huge market share. so is it ultimately just getting some competition? sen. hawley: the problem right now is these companies are preventing competition in the market because they collect so much data and information from us. this is where the privacy angle merges into the speech angle. because they collect so much information from us that we don't control, they now control it, other companies cannot get access to it, they eke
competitors out of the market. these companies have not gotten as huge and powerful as they have on their own. they have not gotten this way without government intervention, it is because government gave them these deals that they have now. i am saving, look, google and facebook should not be a law unto themselves, they should not go against conservatives. privacy. it is pretty clear. you have to give them credit, the social media platform is accomplishing the rare thing that is making everyone in washington mad at them -- for different reasons, but good on them. what should it look like from a conservative perspective? kimberly: ultimately -- sen. hawley: ultimately, we need
to look at property rights. your personal, confidential data ought to belong to you. i think we should make clear in our law that private citizens rights, and if they want to get it back, they ought to be able to get it back. let's start with children. i have two little boys at home. i am terrified, not just what my voice will see online as they are growing up but the information that belongs to them that these companies are going to take. these companies will build profiles on my kids -- surveillance capital. exactly. these kids are my age, they will know more about them than my kids know about themselves. i say let's start with kids. we should all be able to agree on that. let's stop this data collection on kids.
let's delete these profiles on children, and then let go from there. say toy: what do you those, and i am among these that do worry about this, that in this rush to do something in this arena, when they are what they aret taking, we are giving too much power, and democrat certainly is their it opportunity to put congress, the government, and control of what people say, new campaign-finance laws, all of this. how do we guard against that ?how do we make sure we do not end up in a situation where we are attempting to deal with these social media platforms, we violate free speech and first amendment rights? sen. hawley: we have to get more , not less. they are using their power to swell speech. what do we do? we need to and bank the
sweetheart relationship between government and tech. choices,o have more not fewer, and give people property rights. that is the basis of our whole economic system. your property belongs to you, not the government. your company belongs to you, not these tech companies who take it from you without paying you. that aches to stop. i think it is a very conservative wrote. i am not a fan of massive regulations. i am not a fan of turning this over to agencies, creating whole bunch of new agencies and power. law, give enforce the people property rights, and make tech companies follow the law. follow the law. let's start there. unfortunately, we were supposed to have the assistant attorney general for the department of antitrust here, and she could not make it. the view is yes, these companies are big, but they are not
necessarily monopolies. they certainly have not given any actions or taken any actions against the doj. do you agree with that? sen. hawley: he might want to check with his new boss on that. bill barr will be a fantastic attorney general, someone who agrees with the president. he and i talked about this. he said i am particularly worried about the concentration of power in silicon valley. here is what it comes down to at the end of the day. do we want to have a country that is basically run from silicon valley? do we want to have an economy that is run from silicon valley? do we want to have politics that are run from silicon valley? so we need to enforce the law. we need to protect property. we need to encourage free speech. kimberly: all those rallying final words, thank you, senator. thank you for coming. sen. hawley: thank you so much.
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